Re: [qmailtoaster] Delivery delay when restarting spamassassin

[PakOgah]

I am not having problem with SA
but with clamav, I get soft-reject everytime I restart my server (it's a
Pentium III with memory less than 1GB)
but the same clamav version on the higher spec server run smoothly

so I think I need to upgrade my memory, so clamav can load its database
faster
:)

> Is anyone else noticing a delay in Spamassassin when it's been
> restarted? I updated some rules and restarted the spam daemons and have
> noticed a 10-30 second delay before the system will start processing
> messages again. During the downtime, the following error is generated on
> the sending system:
>
> 2007-11-11 19:15:47.688524500 delivery 87: deferral:
> User_and_password_not_set,_continuing_without_authentication./<[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>_214.157.139.30_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_451_mail_server_temporarily_rejected_message_(#4.3.0)/
>
>
> And then the following is generated on the system I restarted the spam
> daemon on:
>
> 2007-11-11 19:15:47.103810500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote
>  rcpt <> : sender
> accepted
> 2007-11-11 19:15:47.231903500 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote
>  rcpt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : found existing recipient
> 2007-11-11 19:15:47.649518500 connect(): No such file or directory
> 2007-11-11 19:15:47.651227500 qmail-smtpd: qq soft reject (mail server
> temporarily rejected message (#4.3.0)): MAILFROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RCPTTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
>



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[qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Hello all,

 

I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of
my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such
but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are
not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that
it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my
emails flowing back to them?

 

Thanks for your help

Q

 

 

Here is the error messages I keep getting:

 

Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
4.16.50. 

:
Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
4.16.50. 


ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?

If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily 
deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this 
indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at 
Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically 
re-try later.

If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period 
of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our 
guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with 
detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.

For bulk mailers, please visit this page 
to 
review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request 
assistance.

If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run 
a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out 
this form instead.

If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please 
contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this
problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of
> my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such
> but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are
> not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that
> it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
> anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my
> emails flowing back to them?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Q
>
>
> Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50.
>
> :
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50.
>
>
> ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
> errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>
> If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
> deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
> indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
> Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
> re-try later.
>
> If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
> of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
> guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with
> detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>
> For bulk mailers, please visit this page
> to
> review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
> assistance.
>
> If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run
> a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
> this form instead.
>
> If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please
> contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Warren Melnick]

Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?

W

On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have
> this
> problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
> bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
> of
> > my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and
> such
> > but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure
> are
> > not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be
> that
> > it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
> > anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my
> > emails flowing back to them?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > Q
> >
> >
> > Here is the error messages I keep getting:
> >
> > Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> > 4.16.50.
> >
> > :
> > Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> > 4.16.50.
> >
> >
> > ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
> > errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
> >
> > If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
> > deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
> > indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
> > Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
> > re-try later.
> >
> > If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
> > of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
> > guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with
> > detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
> >
> > For bulk mailers, please visit this page
> > to
> > review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
> > assistance.
> >
> > If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run
> > a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
> > this form instead.
> >
> > If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please
> > contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
> receiving.
>
>
>
>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

 

Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?

W

On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this

problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.

Mike



On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: 
> Hello all,
>
> I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
of
> my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such
> but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure
are 
> not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be
that
> it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
> anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my 
> emails flowing back to them?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Q
>
>
> Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50.
>
> :
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50 .
>
>
> ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
> errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>
> If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
> deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
> indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
> Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically 
> re-try later.
>
> If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
> of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
> guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with 
> detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>
> For bulk mailers, please visit this page
> to
> review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
> assistance.
>
> If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run
> a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
> this form instead.
> 
> If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please
> contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
receiving.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Adam Cantwell]

Warren Melnick wrote:

Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?

W

On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I
have this
problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not
even a
bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
 > Hello all,
 >
 > I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are
deferring all of
 > my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms
and such
 > but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they
for sure are
 > not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down
to be that
 > it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.
 Does
 > anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to
get my
 > emails flowing back to them?
 >
 > Thanks for your help
 > Q
 >
 >
 > Here is the error messages I keep getting:
 >
 > Connected to 216.39.53.1  but greeting failed.
 > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5
) temporarily deferred -
 > 4.16.50.
 >
 > :
 > Connected to 216.39.53.1  but greeting failed.
 > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5
) temporarily deferred -
 > 4.16.50 .
 >
 >
 > ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
 > errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
 >
 > If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x
temporarily
 > deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP
logs, this
 > indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
 > Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
 > re-try later.
 >
 > If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended
period
 > of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply
with our
 > guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact
us with
 > detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
 >
 > For bulk mailers, please visit this page
 > to
 > review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
 > assistance.
 >
 > If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g.,
you run
 > a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please
fill out
 > this form instead.
 >
 > If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question,
please
 > contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
receiving.



For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly.

For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record 
(http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this "spf2.0/pra".  This 
solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN.  Before, I had the same 
Hotmail issues you describe.


You should also have a normal SPF 1 record.

Google checks both SPF and DK.

Adam

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Here is a header from an email that went into my spam folder with gmail.  I
am guessing this a domain keys issues

 

Does the toaster now support this>?

 

Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
4.16.50. 

:
Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
4.16.50. 


ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?

If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily 
deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this 
indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at 
Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically 
re-try later.

If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period 
of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our 
guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with 
detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.

For bulk mailers, please visit this page 
to 
review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request 
assistance.

If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run 
a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out 
this form instead.

If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please 
contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving.

 

Thanks

Q

 

 

  _  

From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:36 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

 

Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

 

Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?

W

On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this

problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.

Mike



On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: 
> Hello all,
>
> I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
of
> my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such
> but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure
are 
> not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be
that
> it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
> anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my 
> emails flowing back to them?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Q
>
>
> Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50.
>
> :
> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
> 4.16.50 .
>
>
> ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
> errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>
> If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
> deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
> indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
> Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically 
> re-try later.
>
> If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
> of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
> guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with 
> detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>
> For bulk mailers, please visit this page
> to
> review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
> assistance.
>
> If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run
> a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
> this form instead.
> 
> If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please
> contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
receiving.




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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the
spf2.0

IN TXT "spf2.0/pra"


Thanks
Q



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From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Warren Melnick wrote:
> Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?
> 
> W
> 
> On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I
> have this
> problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not
> even a
> bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
>  > Hello all,
>  >
>  > I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are
> deferring all of
>  > my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms
> and such
>  > but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they
> for sure are
>  > not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down
> to be that
>  > it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.
>  Does
>  > anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to
> get my
>  > emails flowing back to them?
>  >
>  > Thanks for your help
>  > Q
>  >
>  >
>  > Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>  >
>  > Connected to 216.39.53.1  but greeting failed.
>  > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5
> ) temporarily deferred -
>  > 4.16.50.
>  >
>  > :
>  > Connected to 216.39.53.1  but greeting failed.
>  > Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5
> ) temporarily deferred -
>  > 4.16.50 .
>  >
>  >
>  > ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
>  > errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>  >
>  > If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x
> temporarily
>  > deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP
> logs, this
>  > indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted
at
>  > Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
>  > re-try later.
>  >
>  > If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended
> period
>  > of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply
> with our
>  > guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact
> us with
>  > detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>  >
>  > For bulk mailers, please visit this page
>  > to
>  > review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate,
request
>  > assistance.
>  >
>  > If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g.,
> you run
>  > a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please
> fill out
>  > this form instead.
>  >
>  > If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question,
> please
>  > contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
> receiving.
> 

For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly.

For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record 
(http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this "spf2.0/pra".  This 
solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN.  Before, I had the same 
Hotmail issues you describe.

You should also have a normal SPF 1 record.

Google checks both SPF and DK.

Adam

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>> Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?

According to dnsstuff I seem to but then, it's not always right either. Are
there any sites on the net that allow you to send them an email as a test for
an analyzed result?

> For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly.

Can't say I'm sure about domainkeys. I thought I had turned that off? I'll
have to look. Thanks for the reply on this.

Mike


> For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record
> (http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this "spf2.0/pra".  This
> solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN.  Before, I had the same
> Hotmail issues you describe.
>
> You should also have a normal SPF 1 record.
>
> Google checks both SPF and DK.




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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Out of curiosity, have you tried dnsstuff to see what their result is? That's
the only site I've tried for testing since I don't know of any others.

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:35:30 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
> Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran.
>
>
> From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
>
>
> Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?
>
> W
> On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this
> problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
> bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
>> of
>> my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such
>> but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure
>> are
>> not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be
>> that
>> it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
>> anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my
>> emails flowing back to them?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>> Q
>>
>>
>> Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>>
>> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
>> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
>> 4.16.50.
>>
>> :
>> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
>> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
>> 4.16.50 .
>>
>>
>> ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
>> errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>>
>> If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
>> deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
>> indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
>> Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
>> re-try later.
>>
>> If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
>> of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
>> guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with
>> detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>>
>> For bulk mailers, please visit this page
>> to
>> review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
>> assistance.
>>
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>> a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
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>>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Adam Cantwell]

Kyle Quillen wrote:

So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the
spf2.0

IN TXT "spf2.0/pra"


Thanks
Q



Yes, that syntax is correct.  Like I said, that alone solved all of my 
issues with Hotmail/MSN.


As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF.  They are the originators of 
DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable 
delivery to them.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Yes I use dnsstuff on a regular basis

Thanks
q

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:53 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Out of curiosity, have you tried dnsstuff to see what their result is?
That's 
the only site I've tried for testing since I don't know of any others.

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:35:30 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
> Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran.
> 
> 
> From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
> 
> 
> Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain?
> 
> W
> On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have
this
> problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a
> bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
>> of
>> my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and
such
>> but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure
>> are
>> not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be
>> that
>> it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me.  Does
>> anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my
>> emails flowing back to them?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> Q
>> 
>> 
>> Here is the error messages I keep getting:
>> 
>> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
>> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
>> 4.16.50.
>> 
>> :
>> Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed.
>> Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred -
>> 4.16.50 .
>> 
>> 
>> ly deferred" or "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred"
>> errors when sending mail to Yahoo!?
>> 
>> If you are seeing the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily
>> deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred" in your SMTP logs, this
>> indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at
>> Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically
>> re-try later.
>> 
>> If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period
>> of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our
>> guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with
>> detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem.
>> 
>> For bulk mailers, please visit this page
>> to
>> review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request
>> assistance.
>> 
>> If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run
>> a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out
>> this form instead.
>> 
>> If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please
>> contact the administrator directly with the error message you are
>> receiving.
> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
disabled. 

How did you work around that or is it now working correctly?

Thanks
Q


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From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Kyle Quillen wrote:
> So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the
> spf2.0
> 
>   IN TXT "spf2.0/pra"
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Q
> 

Yes, that syntax is correct.  Like I said, that alone solved all of my 
issues with Hotmail/MSN.

As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF.  They are the originators of 
DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable 
delivery to them.

Adam

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Tim Mancour]

I don't think that there is anything wrong with the toaster's ability to add
a DomainKey signature to outgoing Emails. 

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
disabled. 

How did you work around that or is it now working correctly?

Thanks
Q


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From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Kyle Quillen wrote:
> So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for 
> the spf2.0
> 
>   IN TXT "spf2.0/pra"
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Q
> 

Yes, that syntax is correct.  Like I said, that alone solved all of my
issues with Hotmail/MSN.

As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF.  They are the originators of DomainKey,
and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to
them.

Adam

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Hmm ok 
I will start to dig into this a little deeper

Thanks
Q


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:30 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

I don't think that there is anything wrong with the toaster's ability to add
a DomainKey signature to outgoing Emails. 

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
disabled. 

How did you work around that or is it now working correctly?

Thanks
Q


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From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Kyle Quillen wrote:
> So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for 
> the spf2.0
> 
>   IN TXT "spf2.0/pra"
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Q
> 

Yes, that syntax is correct.  Like I said, that alone solved all of my
issues with Hotmail/MSN.

As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF.  They are the originators of DomainKey,
and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to
them.

Adam

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Re: [qmailtoaster] roundcube with qmt

[Kent Busbee]

See response below; Jake Vickers wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Anyone using roundcube with QMT?
>>

> Are you speaking about the install-roundcube command from QTP? I haven't
> freshened that script in a while, so you probably did receive an error.
> If so, tell me what it is and I'll update it for the next release.
>
>

I installed it about two weeks ago.  Yes, the script needs updating.  I
tried by adding a LATESTVERSION variable, but still had problems.

Heres the diff:
### DIFF BEGINS ###
< LATESTVERSION=roundcubemail-0.1-rc1.1.tar.gz
59,60c58
< #wget
http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
< wget
http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/$LATESTVERSION
---
> wget
http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
62,64c60,61
< #tar xzf roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
< tar xzf $LATESTVERSION
< mv $LATESTVERSION roundcube
---
> tar xzf roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
> mv roundcubemail-0.1beta2 roundcube
### DIFF ends ###

The tar extracts with a different name, so the mv command fails.  I think
from there I did a line by line command, but I am sure the script could be
fixed.

Thoughts...

It's pretty, but nothing to fancy. There is no calendar, and contacts need
more fields. SquirrelMail (SM) can be prettied up with image_buttons and
other plugins. SM Spam buttons are worth much more to me.

Oh, and running roundcube in parallel is no problem.

Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Delivery delay when restarting spamassassin

[slamp slamp]

spamassassin is fine on my server but then again  i only use the stock
spamassassin and openprotect rules.

On Nov 12, 2007 7:08 AM, PakOgah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not having problem with SA
> but with clamav, I get soft-reject everytime I restart my server (it's a
> Pentium III with memory less than 1GB)
> but the same clamav version on the higher spec server run smoothly
>
> so I think I need to upgrade my memory, so clamav can load its database
> faster
> :)
>
>
> > Is anyone else noticing a delay in Spamassassin when it's been
> > restarted? I updated some rules and restarted the spam daemons and have
> > noticed a 10-30 second delay before the system will start processing
> > messages again. During the downtime, the following error is generated on
> > the sending system:
> >
> > 2007-11-11 19:15:47.688524500 delivery 87: deferral:
> > User_and_password_not_set,_continuing_without_authentication./<[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>_214.157.139.30_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_451_mail_server_temporarily_rejected_message_(#4.3.0)/
> >
> >
> > And then the following is generated on the system I restarted the spam
> > daemon on:
> >
> > 2007-11-11 19:15:47.103810500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote
> >  rcpt <> : sender
> > accepted
> > 2007-11-11 19:15:47.231903500 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote
> >  rcpt
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : found existing recipient
> > 2007-11-11 19:15:47.649518500 connect(): No such file or directory
> > 2007-11-11 19:15:47.651227500 qmail-smtpd: qq soft reject (mail server
> > temporarily rejected message (#4.3.0)): MAILFROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > RCPTTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
> >
>
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Adam Cantwell]

Kyle Quillen wrote:

If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
disabled. 


How did you work around that or is it now working correctly?

Thanks
Q



I wasn't aware DK was broken in the toaster?  I admin several QMT boxes, 
but none of them actually use DK to sign, they just validate incoming DK 
signed messages and that part works fine.  The only qmail box I use to 
sign with DK is my qmailrocks-ish machine.


I can try it out on a QMT box late tonight, but won't have time to get 
to it before then.  Maybe someone has a better answer on this than me?


Adam

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Kyle Quillen]

Hmm 

It may just be me having something messed up. 

I will continue to dig into this.  What baffles me is that I have made no
changes.  

Anyways thanks for all your help.

Q


-Original Message-
From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

Kyle Quillen wrote:
> If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
> disabled. 
> 
> How did you work around that or is it now working correctly?
> 
> Thanks
> Q
> 

I wasn't aware DK was broken in the toaster?  I admin several QMT boxes, 
but none of them actually use DK to sign, they just validate incoming DK 
signed messages and that part works fine.  The only qmail box I use to 
sign with DK is my qmailrocks-ish machine.

I can try it out on a QMT box late tonight, but won't have time to get 
to it before then.  Maybe someone has a better answer on this than me?

Adam

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[qmailtoaster] Mandriva 2007

[Bryan Daley]

Hi,
What is the situation with Mandriva2007?

Seen some old messages regarding rebuilding with nodeps on.  This works 
but I still needed to sym link a few libraries and  a header file.



Not really keen on going back to 2006 on this new server.

Thanks
Bryan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] roundcube with qmt

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Thanks for the feedback, guess we'll have to wait then.

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:35:30 -0600 (CST), Kent Busbee wrote:
> See response below; Jake Vickers wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Anyone using roundcube with QMT?
>>>
> 
>> Are you speaking about the install-roundcube command from QTP? I haven't
>> freshened that script in a while, so you probably did receive an error.
>> If so, tell me what it is and I'll update it for the next release.
>>
>>
> I installed it about two weeks ago.  Yes, the script needs updating.  I
> tried by adding a LATESTVERSION variable, but still had problems.
>
> Heres the diff:
> ### DIFF BEGINS ###
> < LATESTVERSION=roundcubemail-0.1-rc1.1.tar.gz
> 59,60c58
> < #wget
> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/roundcubemail-
> 0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
> < wget
> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/$LATESTVERSION
> ---
>> wget
> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/roundcubemail/roundcubemail-
> 0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
> 62,64c60,61
> < #tar xzf roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
> < tar xzf $LATESTVERSION
> < mv $LATESTVERSION roundcube
> ---
>> tar xzf roundcubemail-0.1beta2.2.tar.gz
>> mv roundcubemail-0.1beta2 roundcube
> ### DIFF ends ###
>
> The tar extracts with a different name, so the mv command fails.  I think
> from there I did a line by line command, but I am sure the script could be
> fixed.
>
> Thoughts...
>
> It's pretty, but nothing to fancy. There is no calendar, and contacts need
> more fields. SquirrelMail (SM) can be prettied up with image_buttons and
> other plugins. SM Spam buttons are worth much more to me.
>
> Oh, and running roundcube in parallel is no problem.
>
> Kent Busbee
> Director of Technology
> Northlake Christian School
>
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[qmailtoaster] Backup?

[Michael Maness]

What sort of backups can/should I be making to my qmailtoaster server?

Can I backup to a NAS?

Backups needed mainly for disaster recovery, not cases of "Joe deleted an
email he needed".

--Michael Maness, Technician
  Crockett Co. Schools
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Backup?

[Jake Vickers]

Michael Maness wrote:

What sort of backups can/should I be making to my qmailtoaster server?

Can I backup to a NAS?

Backups needed mainly for disaster recovery, not cases of "Joe deleted an
email he needed".

  


You can rsync the /home/vpopmail/* and other important files 
(/var/qmail/control/*, etc.) if you want.  I have a backup script on my 
site (v2gnu.com) that will be a little more automated - it's out of date 
though.  The most recent version is in the QTP package 
(qtp.qmailtoaster.com). Restore scripts are in both places as well, with 
QTP being the newest.





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Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

[qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Forgot to add;

I'm also getting;
DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)

Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey directory.




>"DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest version is;
>private._domainkey.domain.com
>k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG CODE

>_domainkey.domain.com
>t=y o=-

>I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having to TURN
>ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp file to actually
>allow remote servers to see this?



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[qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I just can't seem to get this to work and I badly need help at this point. One
problem is that one of the DNS servers is a plesk server and there does not
seem to be any way of adding the domainkey information in it's DNS.

Second, I've read and read and tried all sorts of formats yet testing always
leads to "DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".

In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest version is;

private._domainkey.domain.com
k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG CODE

_domainkey.domain.com
t=y o=-

I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having to TURN
ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp file to actually
allow remote servers to see this?

Mike



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[Tim Mancour]

Step 10 in
http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt40/EZ-QmailToaster-CentOS-4.3.txt has
a pretty good set of instructions for getting domain keys working. If you
have modified your tcp.smtp file then you need to add the DKSIGN variable as
follows:
DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private"



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:53 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

Forgot to add;

I'm also getting;
DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)

Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey directory.




>"DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest 
>version is; private._domainkey.domain.com k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG 
>CODE

>_domainkey.domain.com
>t=y o=-

>I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having to 
>TURN ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp file to 
>actually allow remote servers to see this?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Todd W]

From: "Kyle Quillen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was
disabled.


I dont know for sure myself because I'm just learning it, too. But:

When you talk about domain keys and qmt, there are two seperate parts.

1. setting up DNS and certificates so servers you send mail to can verify 
your domainkey setup.


2. parsing and verifying domainkey setups for incoming email.

I think when we read that "domainkeys is broken" what is being referred to 
is #2.


Todd W.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Todd W]

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:





I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
of my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms
and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and
they for sure are not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have
narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is
why they are blocking me.  Does anyone have any kind of an idea as
to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them?


Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have
this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not
even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.


This is a problem I'm constantly dealing with, too. I think if we pool our 
resources here, we can get the problem licked once and for all. I see the 
suggestion of adding a blank spf2 record, but in my mind right now that 
being the "fix" defies so much logic that I'd like to investigate further.


I know Microsoft's SPF checker is broken. But the postmaster that I got in 
contact with acted like it was coded by God himself.


I have some time and even a bit of money that would be worth it to invest to 
get this fixed.


Here are my stats:

Hotmail: silently fails
Yahoo: sent to bulk
Gmail: sent to bulk
AOL: GOOD

Regards,

Todd W.


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[Ernesto Vargas]

Those anyone have a compiled or source of qmail with rcptcheck patch?

 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

It seems to be correct based on your input? I have four records in there.
Three for IP's including my WAN and the last one. Am I also supposed to add
this to each internal IP I have in the record?

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",RBL
SMTPD="",NOP0FCHECK="1"

192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="
1"
x.x.x.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="1"

:allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT="50",CHKUSER_W
RONGRCPTLIMIT="10",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"
,DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",NOP0FCHECK="1"


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:36:14 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
> Step 10 in
>
> http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt40/EZ-QmailToaster-CentOS-4.3.txt has
> a pretty good set of instructions for getting domain keys working. If you
> have modified your tcp.smtp file then you need to add the DKSIGN variable as
> follows:
> DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
>
> Forgot to add;
>
> I'm also getting;
> DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)
>
> Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey directory.
>
>
>> "DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>> In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest
>> version is; private._domainkey.domain.com k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG
>> CODE
>>
>> _domainkey.domain.com
>> t=y o=-
>>
>> I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having to
>> TURN ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp file to
>> actually allow remote servers to see this?
>
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[qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Istvan Köpe]

Hello everyone,

After a power loss, the email server stopped working.
I receive this error for every account for POP3 connection: this user 
has no $HOME/Maildir

And I receive this error for every account for webmail connection:
Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
111 : Connection refused

I uninstalled qmail-toaster, package by package and than reinstalled it 
and I still have the same error.


Do you have any ideas?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Adam Cantwell]

Todd W wrote:


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote:





I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all
of my mail.  Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms
and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and
they for sure are not getting back to me.  Anyways I think I have
narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is
why they are blocking me.  Does anyone have any kind of an idea as
to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them?


Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have
this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not
even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either.


This is a problem I'm constantly dealing with, too. I think if we pool 
our resources here, we can get the problem licked once and for all. I 
see the suggestion of adding a blank spf2 record, but in my mind right 
now that being the "fix" defies so much logic that I'd like to 
investigate further.


I know Microsoft's SPF checker is broken. But the postmaster that I got 
in contact with acted like it was coded by God himself.


I have some time and even a bit of money that would be worth it to 
invest to get this fixed.


Here are my stats:

Hotmail: silently fails
Yahoo: sent to bulk
Gmail: sent to bulk
AOL: GOOD

Regards,

Todd W.



I have been dealing with the Hotmail/MSN issue for quite some time, and 
the general consensus from everywhere I've searched has been to add the 
null SPF 2 record.  Until Microsoft fixes their implementation of 
senderID, the null SPF 2 record IS the fix, as per www.openspf.org.


I don't think anymore time or resources needs to be spent on this by 
anyone other than Microsoft (except for time spent complaining directly 
to them).


As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has 
been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail 
delivered:


Hotmail/MSN:  null spf2 TXT record
Yahoo:  setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain
Gmail:  setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records

If anybody has does all of those steps and (after DNS propagates) still 
has problems sending mail to any of those providers, then I want to know 
because I'm not seeing any problems.


Adam

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[Tim Mancour]

If you want to have a DomainKey signature for all outgoing (i.e. relayed)
Email then each record in your tcp.smtp file will need the DKSIGN variable.

The wiki has some good information about how this file is processed:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Tcp.smtp

Regards,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:07 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

It seems to be correct based on your input? I have four records in there. 
Three for IP's including my WAN and the last one. Am I also supposed to add
this to each internal IP I have in the record?

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",R
BL
SMTPD="",NOP0FCHECK="1"

192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="
1"
x.x.x.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="1"

:allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT="50",CHKUSER_W
RONGRCPTLIMIT="10",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"
,DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",NOP0FCHECK="1"


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:36:14 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
> Step 10 in
> 
> http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt40/EZ-QmailToaster-CentOS-4.3.tx
> t has a pretty good set of instructions for getting domain keys 
> working. If you have modified your tcp.smtp file then you need to add 
> the DKSIGN variable as
> follows:
> DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private"
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
> 
> Forgot to add;
> 
> I'm also getting;
> DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)
> 
> Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey directory.
> 
> 
>> "DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>> In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest 
>> version is; private._domainkey.domain.com k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG 
>> CODE
>> 
>> _domainkey.domain.com
>> t=y o=-
>> 
>> I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having 
>> to TURN ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp 
>> file to actually allow remote servers to see this?
> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I've updated my file;

The reply I'm getting from yahoo's test is much better now;

Testing domain.com
New test
Policy TXT=t=y; o=-

This policy record appears valid.

Tag Value   Explanation
o   -   Domain signs *ALL* email
t   y   Domain is in test mode

How should the message look in my DNS? Currently, it's t=y o=-

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:49:34 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
> If you want to have a DomainKey signature for all outgoing (i.e. relayed)
>
> Email then each record in your tcp.smtp file will need the DKSIGN variable.
>
> The wiki has some good information about how this file is processed:
> http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Tcp.smtp
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
>
> It seems to be correct based on your input? I have four records in there.
> Three for IP's including my WAN and the last one. Am I also supposed to add
> this to each internal IP I have in the record?
>
> 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",R
> BL
> SMTPD="",NOP0FCHECK="1"
>
> 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK
="
> 1"
> x.x.x.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="1"
>
> :allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT="50",CHKUSER_
W
> RONGRCPTLIMIT="10",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"
> ,DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",NOP0FCHECK="1"
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:36:14 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
>> Step 10 in
>>
>> http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt40/EZ-QmailToaster-CentOS-4.3.tx
>> t has a pretty good set of instructions for getting domain keys
>> working. If you have modified your tcp.smtp file then you need to add
>> the DKSIGN variable as
>> follows:
>> DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private"
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:53 PM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
>>
>> Forgot to add;
>>
>> I'm also getting;
>> DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)
>>
>> Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey directory.
>>
>>
>>> "DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>>> In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest
>>> version is; private._domainkey.domain.com k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG
>>> CODE
>>>
>>> _domainkey.domain.com
>>> t=y o=-
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having
>>> to TURN ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp
>>> file to actually allow remote servers to see this?
>>>
>>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

[Tim Mancour]

The wiki actually has a very good write-up about DomainKeys (I should have
known): 
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:09 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work

I've updated my file;

The reply I'm getting from yahoo's test is much better now;

Testing domain.com
New test
Policy TXT=t=y; o=-

This policy record appears valid.

Tag Value   Explanation
o   -   Domain signs *ALL* email
t   y   Domain is in test mode

How should the message look in my DNS? Currently, it's t=y o=-

Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:49:34 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
> If you want to have a DomainKey signature for all outgoing (i.e. 
> relayed)
> 
> Email then each record in your tcp.smtp file will need the DKSIGN
variable.
> 
> The wiki has some good information about how this file is processed:
> http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Tcp.smtp
> 
> Regards,
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
> 
> It seems to be correct based on your input? I have four records in there.
> Three for IP's including my WAN and the last one. Am I also supposed 
> to add this to each internal IP I have in the record?
> 
> 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/priv
> ate",R
> BL
> SMTPD="",NOP0FCHECK="1"
> 
> 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCH
> ECK
="
> 1"
> x.x.x.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",NOP0FCHECK="1"
> 
> :allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT="50",CHKUSER
> _
W
> RONGRCPTLIMIT="10",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"
> ,DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",NOP0FCHECK="1"
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:36:14 -0500, Tim Mancour wrote:
>> Step 10 in
>> 
>> http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt40/EZ-QmailToaster-CentOS-4.3.t
>> x t has a pretty good set of instructions for getting domain keys 
>> working. If you have modified your tcp.smtp file then you need to add 
>> the DKSIGN variable as
>> follows:
>> DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private"
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:53 PM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domainkeys - Can't seem to get it to work
>> 
>> Forgot to add;
>> 
>> I'm also getting;
>> DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found)
>> 
>> Note that I have generated the proper key file in the domainkey
directory.
>> 
>> 
>>> "DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found".
>>> In BIND, I am entering this as a couple of TXT records. My latest 
>>> version is; private._domainkey.domain.com k=rsa t=y; p=MIHLONG 
>>> CODE
>>> 
>>> _domainkey.domain.com
>>> t=y o=-
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing that I've not found something very vital such as having 
>>> to TURN ON domainkeys for QMT or putting something in my tcp.smtp 
>>> file to actually allow remote servers to see this?
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Jean-Paul van de Plasse]

If my memory serves me correctly restarting mysql should help..
If it does not do a mysqlcheck vpopmail

JP
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From: "Istvan Köpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:17 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir



Hello everyone,

After a power loss, the email server stopped working.
I receive this error for every account for POP3 connection: this user has 
no $HOME/Maildir

And I receive this error for every account for webmail connection:
Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
111 : Connection refused

I uninstalled qmail-toaster, package by package and than reinstalled it 
and I still have the same error.


Do you have any ideas?

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking

[Todd W]

From: "Adam Cantwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have been dealing with the Hotmail/MSN issue for quite some time, and 
the general consensus from everywhere I've searched has been to add the 
null SPF 2 record.  Until Microsoft fixes their implementation of 
senderID, the null SPF 2 record IS the fix, as per www.openspf.org.


Great. I used that to get started with SPF, but missed the tip.

As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has 
been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail 
delivered:


Hotmail/MSN:  null spf2 TXT record
Yahoo:  setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain
Gmail:  setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records


Thanks Adam this is some great info.

I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic 
setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains 
listed in the given domain's MX section)


Todd W.


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[qmailtoaster] what proces that qmailtoaster do before doing chkuser

[roy mangapul]

hi guys,

I've got difficulty with qmailtoaster.
while he was connect with other(outside) mail server
it was so fast, but when to perform chkuser proses
takes little bit long about 1 minute.does any of u
guys knows, what process that qmailtoaster do, before
doing authentication proses of chkuser.

for notice, in the past, i have installed djbdns but
i'll ready remove, and I'm now using bind and caching
name server

anyway thanks for all of u guys

Best regards,


Roy Mangapul

NB: my server is using cnt 4.5 x64 and the H/W is Dell
Power Edge 1900 with 4 gb RAM and 500 GB SATA with
RAID 1



   
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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Istvan Köpe]

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access denied 
for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course before 
installing the server.


I.

Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:

If my memory serves me correctly restarting mysql should help..
If it does not do a mysqlcheck vpopmail

JP
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Subject: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir



Hello everyone,

After a power loss, the email server stopped working.
I receive this error for every account for POP3 connection: this user 
has no $HOME/Maildir

And I receive this error for every account for webmail connection:
Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
111 : Connection refused

I uninstalled qmail-toaster, package by package and than reinstalled 
it and I still have the same error.


Do you have any ideas?

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Istvan Köpe]

I presume there was a file corruption somewhere, because this mail 
server doesn't break down by itself. But if there is a corruption there 
must be a file check / disk check command which should fix it, right? I 
tried:

fsck.ext3 /dev/md2
e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
/dev/md2 is mounted.

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

check aborted.

But I presume there is a way to run a disk check.
Yes I have to mention I'm working on this server remotely, so I don't 
have physical access to it.



I.

Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to 
connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course before 
installing the server.


I.

Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:

If my memory serves me correctly restarting mysql should help..
If it does not do a mysqlcheck vpopmail

JP
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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:17 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir



Hello everyone,

After a power loss, the email server stopped working.
I receive this error for every account for POP3 connection: this 
user has no $HOME/Maildir

And I receive this error for every account for webmail connection:
Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
111 : Connection refused

I uninstalled qmail-toaster, package by package and than reinstalled 
it and I still have the same error.


Do you have any ideas?

Istvan

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Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to 
connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course before 
installing the server.


I.


Just try this :
mysql -u root -p

it should ask you for the root password. try logging into mysql and 
check the vpopmail database.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Istvan Köpe]

Can you be more specific? I don't know mysql at all.

I.

K Anand wrote:



Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying 
to connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course 
before installing the server.


I.


Just try this :
mysql -u root -p

it should ask you for the root password. try logging into mysql and 
check the vpopmail database.


Anand

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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[K Anand]

Istvan Köpe wrote:

Can you be more specific? I don't know mysql at all.

I.


log into your server.
At the command prompt, type as below.

mysql -u root -p

It should prompt you to enter the root password for mysql.
enter it. If it is correct, you should get a mysql prompt.


Anand




K Anand wrote:



Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying 
to connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course 
before installing the server.


I.


Just try this :
mysql -u root -p

it should ask you for the root password. try logging into mysql and 
check the vpopmail database.


Anand

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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[K Anand]

Istvan Köpe wrote:

Can you be more specific? I don't know mysql at all.

I.






Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying 
to connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is nothing 
called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of course 
before installing the server.


I.



you should actually use mysqlcheck vpopmail -p

The -p specifies that you need to give a password for the command to 
work . The error that you are getting is because you have a password set 
and are not calling mysql with the  -p option.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] this user has no $HOME/Maildir

[Istvan Köpe]

mysqlcheck vpopmail -p
Enter password:
vpopmail.cba_romania_roOK
vpopmail.dir_control   OK
vpopmail.lastauth  OK
vpopmail.valiasOK


K Anand wrote:

Istvan Köpe wrote:

Can you be more specific? I don't know mysql at all.

I.






Istvan Köpe wrote:

I rebooted the server several times it didn't help.
mysqlcheck vpopmail gives me "mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access 
denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when 
trying to connect"
But I don't know where this "localhost" comes from. There is 
nothing called localhost on my server. I renamed everything, of 
course before installing the server.


I.



you should actually use mysqlcheck vpopmail -p

The -p specifies that you need to give a password for the command to 
work . The error that you are getting is because you have a password 
set and are not calling mysql with the  -p option.


Anand

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