Re: [qmailtoaster] Clam-AV and backups
Hi David, For backups, there is already installed the qtp-backup scrip. I use this to do a daily backup, to the default /backup folder. I then scp the backup to a second server, in case of Primary server failure I also added my howto on the wiki, just search for automated backup. madmac David Burke wrote: Greetings list! I just installed Qmail on a Centos 5.3 distro running on a virtual host. With the install scripts, does Clam-AV update defs and install automatically? For backups, what's a good program to use? I would probably be backing up to disk. Thanks! David Burke, PC Technician Coachmen Technology Services Phone: 574-266-2542 Fax: 574-266-3044 NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail message is CONFIDENTIAL information for the use of the intended recipient, and may be subject to the ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. This message can be traced to all recipients. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone at (574) 266-2500 and delete the original message.
RE: [qmailtoaster] Clam-AV and backups
Clam will take care of itself. The process freshclam sees to that. For your backups, if you plan on backing up to disk, it's easy, just set a cron job to run qtp-backup. That grabs the entire QMT, mail, support files and database. It currently puts the backup into the "root" folder but you can easily modify the script to deposit that somewhere else. OR you could let the script put it ROOT and then another cron come by in an hour and move it. > Greetings list! > > > > I just installed Qmail on a Centos 5.3 distro running on a virtual host. > With the install scripts, does Clam-AV update defs and install > automatically? For backups, what's a good program to use? I would > probably be backing up to disk. Thanks! > > > > David Burke, PC Technician > > Coachmen Technology Services > > Phone: 574-266-2542 > > Fax: 574-266-3044 > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail message is > CONFIDENTIAL information for the use of the intended recipient, and may > be subject to the ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. This message can be traced > to all recipients. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution or copying of > this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > e-mail message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone at > (574) 266-2500 and delete the original message. > > > >
RE: [qmailtoaster] Clam-AV and backups
Greetings list! I just installed Qmail on a Centos 5.3 distro running on a virtual host. With the install scripts, does Clam-AV update defs and install automatically? For backups, what's a good program to use? I would probably be backing up to disk. Thanks! David Burke, PC Technician Coachmen Technology Services Phone: 574-266-2542 Fax: 574-266-3044 NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail message is CONFIDENTIAL information for the use of the intended recipient, and may be subject to the ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. This message can be traced to all recipients. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please immediately notify us by telephone at (574) 266-2500 and delete the original message.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
Adam Glass wrote: Hi again, Some of the vqadmin issues mentioned here are making me a little nervous. If you don't mind, I'd like to review my setup so far and ask if there is anything to worry about. The plan is to handle e-mail for three domains on the server, accessing via IMAP and sometimes Squirrelmail. Two of those domains are live on a server elsewhere now. I created all three virtual domains using vqadmin, and also created e-mail users for each with vqadmin. Then I went into qmail-admin to designate one address from each domain to be the catchall. Next I configured BIND for the domain that is not already live, then pointed the upstream DNS there to make it live. E-mail seems to work fine, sending and receiving. My next step will be to move one of the two live domains over. This is e-mail from a functioning business that cannot be messed up. Now, it sounds like the problems people have experienced with vqadmin happen when they change or remove virtual domains. If that's true, perhaps I am okay. Or should I remove all of the virtual domains, all of the users, and start from scratch with the CLI or QControl? I don't see any documentation on how to remove users or virtual domains via CLI. Can anyone point me to it? If I purchase QControl, will it be able to remove the users and virtual domains created by vqadmin, or might things get worse instead? If you can still view the domains in vqadmin, then it did not mess your database up. Even if it did, you can run the mysql command to reset the number of users from 247. to 0 and you will be fine. Vqadmin only really creates issues when you use it to create domains and users (which you've already done) and do not fill in ALL fields, from my experience. It will still occasionally mess things up, but if you can view the domain in vqadmin then chances are it did not mess them up for you this time. I have never used vqadmin to create users, so I cannot say what issues that may have caused others. I only used qmailadmin to create users. I think you're okay at this point though. The commands to delete users/domains are in the same vpopmail bin directory: /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeluser [em...@address.com] /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain [domain.com] QControl will work fine, even for domains that are messed up with vqadmin. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
Hi again, Some of the vqadmin issues mentioned here are making me a little nervous. If you don't mind, I'd like to review my setup so far and ask if there is anything to worry about. The plan is to handle e-mail for three domains on the server, accessing via IMAP and sometimes Squirrelmail. Two of those domains are live on a server elsewhere now. I created all three virtual domains using vqadmin, and also created e-mail users for each with vqadmin. Then I went into qmail-admin to designate one address from each domain to be the catchall. Next I configured BIND for the domain that is not already live, then pointed the upstream DNS there to make it live. E-mail seems to work fine, sending and receiving. My next step will be to move one of the two live domains over. This is e-mail from a functioning business that cannot be messed up. Now, it sounds like the problems people have experienced with vqadmin happen when they change or remove virtual domains. If that's true, perhaps I am okay. Or should I remove all of the virtual domains, all of the users, and start from scratch with the CLI or QControl? I don't see any documentation on how to remove users or virtual domains via CLI. Can anyone point me to it? If I purchase QControl, will it be able to remove the users and virtual domains created by vqadmin, or might things get worse instead? Thanks! --Adam On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Glen Vickers wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:13 PM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. > Qmailadmin > > Glen Vickers wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert > > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:47 PM > > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. > > Qmailadmin > > > > Glen Vickers wrote: > >> However, if I create them using the > >> command line interface and watch for the little tweaky stuff (EG. I now > > have > >> to reboot once a week to prevent spamdyke going into a greylist deny > loop) > >> it works fine. > >> > > > > I'm curious to know more about this problem, Glen. Spamdyke has worked > > flawlessly for me. Would you care to provide more information about your > > problem so we might find a cure? Please start a new thread if you do. > > > -- > > The solution to my issue was to restart services for qmail. I really don't > know why it started perma greylisting everything. It really didn't bounce > things either, it went to queue and circled around till I restarted. > It was odd when it happened. It was working fine then freaked. But a > restart of services fixed it. I had posted a thread on it early and what I > did to repair the weirdness. > > Glen > > > So you reboot weekly as a preventative measure? You really shouldn't > need to do that. > > -- > -Eric 'shubes' > > Yeah I know. Expecially with an AIX system. I can see a Windows server > needing that but AIX? I've made a cron job to run for a couple weeks to see > how things perform. > > > > - > Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group ( > www.vickersconsulting.com) >Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. > If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! > > - > Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and > packages. > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com > For additional commands, e-mail: > qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com > > >
RE: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:13 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin Glen Vickers wrote: > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:47 PM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. > Qmailadmin > > Glen Vickers wrote: >> However, if I create them using the >> command line interface and watch for the little tweaky stuff (EG. I now > have >> to reboot once a week to prevent spamdyke going into a greylist deny loop) >> it works fine. >> > > I'm curious to know more about this problem, Glen. Spamdyke has worked > flawlessly for me. Would you care to provide more information about your > problem so we might find a cure? Please start a new thread if you do. > -- The solution to my issue was to restart services for qmail. I really don't know why it started perma greylisting everything. It really didn't bounce things either, it went to queue and circled around till I restarted. It was odd when it happened. It was working fine then freaked. But a restart of services fixed it. I had posted a thread on it early and what I did to repair the weirdness. Glen So you reboot weekly as a preventative measure? You really shouldn't need to do that. -- -Eric 'shubes' Yeah I know. Expecially with an AIX system. I can see a Windows server needing that but AIX? I've made a cron job to run for a couple weeks to see how things perform. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
Phil Leinhauser wrote: I sent Jake a few of my wishlist items for QControl a little while back. I'm sure in his copious spare time he'll get to them... Right after he's done wiping our noses.. ;) One of the items I mentioned was the ability to give domain control to customers without giving them the whole farm. I have customers with several domains and it would be good to be able to give them one place to manage their email but only THEIR email. It sounds like Dan's suggestion is pretty close to the same. I think Jake mentioned he has some plans to mature QC into a "one stop" control panel. It can only happen if we give him $ome incentive$ to continue it. I've got those on my list as well, Phil. The delegation ability is a difficult one, since I would need to create a mysql DB to hold what users can control what and what level of security they can see. And that just scratches the surface. It's a major undertaking. I'm not opposed to it, but it will take a while and probably become a separate package/project. I think what Dan was looking for was the ability to give the office staff the ability to change/retrieve passwords, create addresses, etc., but keep them out of the system's workings (ie: can't edit the tcp.smtp file, can't edit the simcontrol file, etc.) Thanks for the support! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
Dan Page wrote: I really like this thread, so here's my 2 cents: I use the CLI almost exclusively. Which works for me, the mail administrator for our domains. But I want to train a monkey (office) manager, secretary, etc. to do the simply stuff our customers call in for, look up passwords, add an account. And like all of you probably know a cli might as well be in russian, as it makes no sense to the rest of humanity. I really like qcontrol, we purchased it and use it. but I have to tell the monkeys, "never click in there, you can mess it all up" for the tcp.smtp, and spam settings. what would be nice if there was a Qcontrol-lite. or user manager, or some way to simply present the stuff I trust people to do with a GUI, and let them have at. Qcontrol is far superior to the other tools mentioned, and I'd personally like to see it as a replacement for the other broken tools. some Featueres that would rock: click a user name and search the logs for that account. so if a user calls in I can click his name the server will show me all the logs with his/her user name it. ability to tail a log /var/log/qmail/smtp/current, or other. Thanks for all the hard work Thanks for the suggestions for QControl. User suggestions are how I make new features. I'll jot these down and see if I can't get them into the next release. As far as your "lite" version, you can modify it yourself if you want. The web portion is all written in PHP/HTML and not encoded, so you can modify it all you want. You, for your situation, would edit the /usr/share/toaster/qcontrol/menu.html file and remove the entries for the items you don't want everyone else to see. You may also be running an older version of QControl if you're asking about 'tail'ing a log file. The current version allows you to view the log files, and shows the last 50 lines by default. You can change that and view the last 10 lines if you want as well. You can even make 10 the default when you open it by editing the /usr/share/toaster/qcontrol/includes.inc file and changing the value from 50 to 10. Enjoy! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
I sent Jake a few of my wishlist items for QControl a little while back. I'm sure in his copious spare time he'll get to them... Right after he's done wiping our noses.. ;) One of the items I mentioned was the ability to give domain control to customers without giving them the whole farm. I have customers with several domains and it would be good to be able to give them one place to manage their email but only THEIR email. It sounds like Dan's suggestion is pretty close to the same. I think Jake mentioned he has some plans to mature QC into a "one stop" control panel. It can only happen if we give him $ome incentive$ to continue it. > I really like this thread, so here's my 2 cents: > > I use the CLI almost exclusively. Which works for me, the mail > administrator for our domains. But I want to train a monkey (office) > manager, secretary, etc. to do the simply stuff our customers call in > for, look up passwords, add an account. And like all of you probably > know a cli might as well be in russian, as it makes no sense to the rest > of humanity. I really like qcontrol, we purchased it and use it. but I > have to tell the monkeys, "never click in there, you can mess it all up" > for the tcp.smtp, and spam settings. what would be nice if there was a > Qcontrol-lite. or user manager, or some way to simply present the stuff > I trust people to do with a GUI, and let them have at. Qcontrol is far > superior to the other tools mentioned, and I'd personally like to see it > as a replacement for the other broken tools. some Featueres that would > rock: > > click a user name and search the logs for that account. so if a user > calls in I can click his name the server will show me all the logs with > his/her user name it. > > ability to tail a log /var/log/qmail/smtp/current, or other. > > Thanks for all the hard work > > Dan > > vqadmin could just be a qtp option > qtp-install-vqadmin would make everyone happy? > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:54 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> I (shamefully, on occasion) use /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo for >> password lookups. >> >> FWIW, looking up passwords (storing passwords in clear text, to be >> precise) is considered to be a bad practice from a security standpoint. >> A more secure way is to have the admin reset the password when >> forgotten. I'm not sure why QMT is configured to store PWs in clear >> text. Might want to consider changing that in a future release. >> >> Helmut Fritz wrote: >> > I think you are correct in the issue to decide Jake. I think it can >> safely >> > be removed if everything it does is available elsewhere. Password >> lookup? >> > I know domains can be done with webmin as well as CLI. >> > >> > And I do not think vqadmin should be used for user >> creation/management. >> > Qmailadmin is plenty good there. >> > >> > So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is >> free? >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM >> > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com >> > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. >> > Qmailadmin >> > >> > Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: >> >> Hey Jake, >> >> >> >> I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate >> the >> >> work you did and are doing.. >> >> >> >> For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an >> interface, >> >> guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :) Anyways, >> >> as said in an other mail I am just trying to help some who are using >> >> vqadmin.. >> >> Have been active in the past with patches and helping arround on this >> >> list, been busy otherwise but figured I can still contribute some >> time >> >> to qmt. >> >> >> >> I do think (as u suggest) a good mailserver needs a basic tool to >> >> manage the users, so it would be good to fix vqadmin. >> >> Or to write a replacement, with some basic features. >> >> >> >> Guess I should crawl back under the stone I was the past year.. seems >> >> this all stirs up things .. >> >> Sorry for that. >> > >> > I think the topic actually generated some good ideas and traffic. I'm >> trying >> > to get the project back into giving the community what they ask for - >> I >> > can't do this if you don't tell me what you want! >> > I know lots of people appreciate the work that I and others do. That's >> not >> > the issue I was ranting on. It costs actual money to run a project >> like >> > this, and most people do not understand that. I'm not even counting >> time >> > spent, just actual server costs. >> > >> > I'd started 2 or 3 projects in the past to write a replacement for >> Vqadmin >> > with other people, but they always died on the vine. I found it >> frustrating. >> > After a specific user went on a long-winded thread on how open source >> would >> > never work because we wouldn't write a GUI that worked I decided to >> sit down >> > and learn the
Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin
I really like this thread, so here's my 2 cents: I use the CLI almost exclusively. Which works for me, the mail administrator for our domains. But I want to train a monkey (office) manager, secretary, etc. to do the simply stuff our customers call in for, look up passwords, add an account. And like all of you probably know a cli might as well be in russian, as it makes no sense to the rest of humanity. I really like qcontrol, we purchased it and use it. but I have to tell the monkeys, "never click in there, you can mess it all up" for the tcp.smtp, and spam settings. what would be nice if there was a Qcontrol-lite. or user manager, or some way to simply present the stuff I trust people to do with a GUI, and let them have at. Qcontrol is far superior to the other tools mentioned, and I'd personally like to see it as a replacement for the other broken tools. some Featueres that would rock: click a user name and search the logs for that account. so if a user calls in I can click his name the server will show me all the logs with his/her user name it. ability to tail a log /var/log/qmail/smtp/current, or other. Thanks for all the hard work Dan vqadmin could just be a qtp option qtp-install-vqadmin would make everyone happy? On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:54 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > I (shamefully, on occasion) use /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo for > password lookups. > > FWIW, looking up passwords (storing passwords in clear text, to be > precise) is considered to be a bad practice from a security standpoint. > A more secure way is to have the admin reset the password when > forgotten. I'm not sure why QMT is configured to store PWs in clear > text. Might want to consider changing that in a future release. > > Helmut Fritz wrote: > > I think you are correct in the issue to decide Jake. I think it can safely > > be removed if everything it does is available elsewhere. Password lookup? > > I know domains can be done with webmin as well as CLI. > > > > And I do not think vqadmin should be used for user creation/management. > > Qmailadmin is plenty good there. > > > > So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is free? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM > > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. > > Qmailadmin > > > > Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: > >> Hey Jake, > >> > >> I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the > >> work you did and are doing.. > >> > >> For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an interface, > >> guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :) Anyways, > >> as said in an other mail I am just trying to help some who are using > >> vqadmin.. > >> Have been active in the past with patches and helping arround on this > >> list, been busy otherwise but figured I can still contribute some time > >> to qmt. > >> > >> I do think (as u suggest) a good mailserver needs a basic tool to > >> manage the users, so it would be good to fix vqadmin. > >> Or to write a replacement, with some basic features. > >> > >> Guess I should crawl back under the stone I was the past year.. seems > >> this all stirs up things .. > >> Sorry for that. > > > > I think the topic actually generated some good ideas and traffic. I'm trying > > to get the project back into giving the community what they ask for - I > > can't do this if you don't tell me what you want! > > I know lots of people appreciate the work that I and others do. That's not > > the issue I was ranting on. It costs actual money to run a project like > > this, and most people do not understand that. I'm not even counting time > > spent, just actual server costs. > > > > I'd started 2 or 3 projects in the past to write a replacement for Vqadmin > > with other people, but they always died on the vine. I found it frustrating. > > After a specific user went on a long-winded thread on how open source would > > never work because we wouldn't write a GUI that worked I decided to sit down > > and learn the skills I lacked to write the thing by myself. > > > > I honestly don't even use my own software to administer my system(s). I run > > servers for other companies around the world and I always found it easier to > > use the CLI myself. Mainly out of habit. > > > > The only feature that I can think of that Vqadmin provides that is not > > covered under Qmailadmin is the ability to create domains. > > > > I'll be starting a "video magazine" for QMT in the very near future with > > how-to videos, and one of the topics I'll eventually cover is how to add > > domains using the command line and why to not use Vqadmin. > > > > So I think the major topic we need to hash out is whether to remove the > > Vqadmin package from the auto-installers or not - correct me if I am wrong. > > > >
Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmailtoaster updated packages!
I made it.It was sended to your email.With attachment with spec files and some info.I still can't compile clamav, and simscan because it needs clamav here.And djbdns after installation looks weird, but compiles fine.20.05.09, 00:35, "Jake Vickers" : L. A. wrote: I will eventually add Mandriva support Great news :) If more people want to contribute and send me spec files that work and have been tested for Mandriva I'll be more than happy to add them in, otherwise you have to wait until I get time to do it. Well. Tell me where i can write about changes in some spec file that i use? (i change directly in mdk103 part, even without adding new label like mdv2009, i hope it's not a problem) Install the source RPM, edit the spec file so it works with Mandriva 2009, and send the spec file back to me. I'll make the needed changes from there and add it to the main trunk. If you just edit the mdk103 directives, that is fine as well. I'll create the new directove for the new edition. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
