Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
On 10/12/2010 11:04 AM, Jake Vickers wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:58 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 10/12/2010 06:19 AM, Jake Vickers wrote: On 10/12/2010 08:52 AM, Michael King wrote: Jake Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING). This string must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox. Perhaps yours is farther down? Nope. Stock file: # cat /home/vpopmail/domains/qmailtoaster.com/.qmail-default | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox I am running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.18 versus the current of 1.03-1.3.20. I'll look at the changes in the spec file tonight to see what has been changed in those two versions - I do not recall making a change to chkuser settings, but that doesn't mean I haven't forgotten :) Hey Tonix, are you here? Can you shed some light on this? The chkuser version did not change between these qmail-toaster versions, so it will be a patch change at some point in there. I do not recall what changes were made (I'll check this evening) but the only thing I think may have been changed were the illegal characters definitions. If someone wants to help they could VM the old version and try the scenario, and then upgrade to the new version and test again. I speculate it will work in the old version and not the new version. I went back through the spec file and reviewed the changes - the chkuser settings have not changed since July 8th of 2006. I'd be curios if others could test this out and get back to me with the results. Thanks. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
On 10/11/2010 05:53 PM, Michael King wrote: Eric Eureka!!! By changing the value in the .qmail-default file from | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox To | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete The problem was solved. It looks like the chkuser logic will only allow ezmlm messages through if messages are to be deleted. My guess is that the qmail logic doesn't properly handle the extensions and since its told to bounce invalid users it does so during the initial handshake. Removing the bounce-no-mailbox means the system will let it through and vpopmail has to sort it out. Probably an error in the chkuser code in that it doesn't check -xxx extensions properly. Again thanks -- you are lifesaver. Now off to load all the old postings and email addresses. This needs some more investigation - it does indeed work with bounce-no-mailbox. It's what this mailing list's server uses :)
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
Jake Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING). This string must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox. Perhaps yours is farther down? Regards Mike - Original Message - From: Jake Vickers To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster On 10/11/2010 05:53 PM, Michael King wrote: Eric Eureka!!! By changing the value in the .qmail-default file from | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox To | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete The problem was solved. It looks like the chkuser logic will only allow ezmlm messages through if messages are to be deleted. My guess is that the qmail logic doesn't properly handle the extensions and since its told to bounce invalid users it does so during the initial handshake. Removing the bounce-no-mailbox means the system will let it through and vpopmail has to sort it out. Probably an error in the chkuser code in that it doesn't check -xxx extensions properly. Again thanks -- you are lifesaver. Now off to load all the old postings and email addresses. This needs some more investigation - it does indeed work with bounce-no-mailbox. It's what this mailing list's server uses :)
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
On 10/12/2010 08:52 AM, Michael King wrote: Jake Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING). This string must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox. Perhaps yours is farther down? Nope. Stock file: # cat /home/vpopmail/domains/qmailtoaster.com/.qmail-default | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox I am running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.18 versus the current of 1.03-1.3.20. I'll look at the changes in the spec file tonight to see what has been changed in those two versions - I do not recall making a change to chkuser settings, but that doesn't mean I haven't forgotten :)
[qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
On 10/12/2010 06:19 AM, Jake Vickers wrote: On 10/12/2010 08:52 AM, Michael King wrote: Jake Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING). This string must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox. Perhaps yours is farther down? Nope. Stock file: # cat /home/vpopmail/domains/qmailtoaster.com/.qmail-default | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox I am running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.18 versus the current of 1.03-1.3.20. I'll look at the changes in the spec file tonight to see what has been changed in those two versions - I do not recall making a change to chkuser settings, but that doesn't mean I haven't forgotten :) Hey Tonix, are you here? Can you shed some light on this? -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
On 10/12/2010 10:58 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 10/12/2010 06:19 AM, Jake Vickers wrote: On 10/12/2010 08:52 AM, Michael King wrote: Jake Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING). This string must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox. Perhaps yours is farther down? Nope. Stock file: # cat /home/vpopmail/domains/qmailtoaster.com/.qmail-default | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox I am running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.18 versus the current of 1.03-1.3.20. I'll look at the changes in the spec file tonight to see what has been changed in those two versions - I do not recall making a change to chkuser settings, but that doesn't mean I haven't forgotten :) Hey Tonix, are you here? Can you shed some light on this? The chkuser version did not change between these qmail-toaster versions, so it will be a patch change at some point in there. I do not recall what changes were made (I'll check this evening) but the only thing I think may have been changed were the illegal characters definitions. If someone wants to help they could VM the old version and try the scenario, and then upgrade to the new version and test again. I speculate it will work in the old version and not the new version. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
Hey Michael. I use mailman instead of ezmlm, but maybe I can lend a hand. The -whatever in the email address is a feature of qmail, and should not be rejected. I wonder if ezmlm perhaps doesn't work with the bounce-no-mailbox setting. I'd try with a catchall account, then with delete-no-mailbox and see if one or both of those work. Perhaps Tonix could shed some light on this. It sure looks like chkuser is blocking it when it shouldn't be. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 10/11/2010 12:33 PM, Michael King wrote: Help.. Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a little further. The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its validation of incoming email addresses. When I manually tried ./qmail-smptd rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with the following rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com It rejects the address. A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser' settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea how to determine what they were. Any assistance would be appreciated. I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for users to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck. Regards Mike - Original Message - *From:* Michael King mailto:mike.k...@pvxplus.com *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been testing out EZMLM. While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers manually on the server, however sending an email to maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com mailto:maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com Is being rejected with the message 67.213.69.170 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser) I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default in the vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed. I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe. Basically this has led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly honoured. My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or perhaps the default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option. Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers: qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20 qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15 qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2 vpopmail-toaster.i686 5.4.17-1.3.7 Any help in getting this working would be appreciated. (I can setup the links in the interim but its not a great solution). Regards Mike - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com http://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
Eric Thanks -- for the info. I finally kinda figured out that it was qmail-smptd that was rejecting the email. I'm guessing that the 'chkuser' patches are applied to the version of qmail that the toaster installs, and my concern is that the default config for chkuser is not correct -- but again thats just a guess. I will try delete-no-mailbox setting and see if that makes a difference. In theory I guess I could use mailman, just that we are porting 4 mail lists that currently are running on ezmlm and it was pre-configured in the toaster. Again, thanks, I will let you know if I figure this out. Mike - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster Hey Michael. I use mailman instead of ezmlm, but maybe I can lend a hand. The -whatever in the email address is a feature of qmail, and should not be rejected. I wonder if ezmlm perhaps doesn't work with the bounce-no-mailbox setting. I'd try with a catchall account, then with delete-no-mailbox and see if one or both of those work. Perhaps Tonix could shed some light on this. It sure looks like chkuser is blocking it when it shouldn't be. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 10/11/2010 12:33 PM, Michael King wrote: Help.. Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a little further. The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its validation of incoming email addresses. When I manually tried ./qmail-smptd rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with the following rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com It rejects the address. A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser' settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea how to determine what they were. Any assistance would be appreciated. I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for users to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck. Regards Mike - Original Message - *From:* Michael King mailto:mike.k...@pvxplus.com *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been testing out EZMLM. While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers manually on the server, however sending an email to maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com mailto:maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com Is being rejected with the message 67.213.69.170 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser) I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default in the vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed. I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe. Basically this has led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly honoured. My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or perhaps the default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option. Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers: qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20 qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15 qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2 vpopmail-toaster.i686 5.4.17-1.3.7 Any help in getting this working would be appreciated. (I can setup the links in the interim but its not a great solution). Regards Mike - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com http://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster
Eric Eureka!!! By changing the value in the .qmail-default file from | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox To | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete The problem was solved. It looks like the chkuser logic will only allow ezmlm messages through if messages are to be deleted. My guess is that the qmail logic doesn't properly handle the extensions and since its told to bounce invalid users it does so during the initial handshake. Removing the bounce-no-mailbox means the system will let it through and vpopmail has to sort it out. Probably an error in the chkuser code in that it doesn't check -xxx extensions properly. Again thanks -- you are lifesaver. Now off to load all the old postings and email addresses. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael King To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster Eric Thanks -- for the info. I finally kinda figured out that it was qmail-smptd that was rejecting the email. I'm guessing that the 'chkuser' patches are applied to the version of qmail that the toaster installs, and my concern is that the default config for chkuser is not correct -- but again thats just a guess. I will try delete-no-mailbox setting and see if that makes a difference. In theory I guess I could use mailman, just that we are porting 4 mail lists that currently are running on ezmlm and it was pre-configured in the toaster. Again, thanks, I will let you know if I figure this out. Mike - Original Message - From: Eric Shubert To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster Hey Michael. I use mailman instead of ezmlm, but maybe I can lend a hand. The -whatever in the email address is a feature of qmail, and should not be rejected. I wonder if ezmlm perhaps doesn't work with the bounce-no-mailbox setting. I'd try with a catchall account, then with delete-no-mailbox and see if one or both of those work. Perhaps Tonix could shed some light on this. It sure looks like chkuser is blocking it when it shouldn't be. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 10/11/2010 12:33 PM, Michael King wrote: Help.. Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a little further. The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its validation of incoming email addresses. When I manually tried ./qmail-smptd rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with the following rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com It rejects the address. A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser' settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea how to determine what they were. Any assistance would be appreciated. I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for users to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck. Regards Mike - Original Message - *From:* Michael King mailto:mike.k...@pvxplus.com *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been testing out EZMLM. While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers manually on the server, however sending an email to maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com mailto:maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com Is being rejected with the message 67.213.69.170 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser) I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default in the vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed. I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe. Basically this has led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly honoured. My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or perhaps the default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option. Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers: qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20 qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15 qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2
