Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-23 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Thanks, EE.
Sorry, I'll try to get through that today. :)

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 ES,
 
 It's in the QmailToaster howto I sent you that I wanted you to peer-review
 
 Erik
 
 On 1/22/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Will one of you guys please post the yum conf for DAG (dag.repo?)
 along with
 packages that should be yum'd?

 Erik Espinoza wrote:
  I too use the DAG/RPMForge rpm's for perl. Makes things a lot easier.
 
  Erik
 
  On 1/22/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Vince Callaway wrote:
   While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case. 
 Centos
   works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that
  sent
   me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
   Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.
 
  That is not the critical difference to exchange the security and
  stability of RHEL-derivate with the 'bleeding-edge' Fedora testbox.
  Each distro is good for the things it had been produced for. That
 is why
  all of the servers I handle use RHEL3/4 or CentOS3/4, while my home
  desktop has god Fedora6 installed. To get all the modules of SA
 working
  on CentOS, the only thing you have to do is to use CPAN to install
 some
  perl extensions (bad way), or to use DAG's repos to fetch RPM with
  relevant perl modules already compiled and ready for use. Even
 more, it
  was newer a big challenge to write a RPM SPEC file for any CPAN module
  source and compile module yourself.
 
   I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are
 stable and
   spam free.
  Sorry, but I don't believe you ;-D. Such thing as 'SPAM-FREE' is only
  possible in case current email-protocols will get replaced somehow
 with
  more security related ones, with a guaranteed sender authentication.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Alexey Loukianov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  System Engineer,
  IT Department,
  Lavtech Corp.
 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-22 Thread Alexey Loukianov

Vince Callaway wrote:

While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that sent
me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.


That is not the critical difference to exchange the security and 
stability of RHEL-derivate with the 'bleeding-edge' Fedora testbox.
Each distro is good for the things it had been produced for. That is why 
all of the servers I handle use RHEL3/4 or CentOS3/4, while my home 
desktop has god Fedora6 installed. To get all the modules of SA working 
on CentOS, the only thing you have to do is to use CPAN to install some 
perl extensions (bad way), or to use DAG's repos to fetch RPM with 
relevant perl modules already compiled and ready for use. Even more, it 
was newer a big challenge to write a RPM SPEC file for any CPAN module 
source and compile module yourself.



I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
spam free.  
Sorry, but I don't believe you ;-D. Such thing as 'SPAM-FREE' is only 
possible in case current email-protocols will get replaced somehow with 
more security related ones, with a guaranteed sender authentication.


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Alexey Loukianov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Engineer,
IT Department,
Lavtech Corp.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-22 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Will one of you guys please post the yum conf for DAG (dag.repo?) along with
packages that should be yum'd?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I too use the DAG/RPMForge rpm's for perl. Makes things a lot easier.
 
 Erik
 
 On 1/22/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vince Callaway wrote:
  While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
  works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that
 sent
  me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
  Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.

 That is not the critical difference to exchange the security and
 stability of RHEL-derivate with the 'bleeding-edge' Fedora testbox.
 Each distro is good for the things it had been produced for. That is why
 all of the servers I handle use RHEL3/4 or CentOS3/4, while my home
 desktop has god Fedora6 installed. To get all the modules of SA working
 on CentOS, the only thing you have to do is to use CPAN to install some
 perl extensions (bad way), or to use DAG's repos to fetch RPM with
 relevant perl modules already compiled and ready for use. Even more, it
 was newer a big challenge to write a RPM SPEC file for any CPAN module
 source and compile module yourself.

  I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
  spam free.
 Sorry, but I don't believe you ;-D. Such thing as 'SPAM-FREE' is only
 possible in case current email-protocols will get replaced somehow with
 more security related ones, with a guaranteed sender authentication.

 -- 
 Best regards,
 Alexey Loukianov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 System Engineer,
 IT Department,
 Lavtech Corp.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-22 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES,

It's in the QmailToaster howto I sent you that I wanted you to peer-review

Erik

On 1/22/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Will one of you guys please post the yum conf for DAG (dag.repo?) along with
packages that should be yum'd?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I too use the DAG/RPMForge rpm's for perl. Makes things a lot easier.

 Erik

 On 1/22/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vince Callaway wrote:
  While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
  works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that
 sent
  me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
  Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.

 That is not the critical difference to exchange the security and
 stability of RHEL-derivate with the 'bleeding-edge' Fedora testbox.
 Each distro is good for the things it had been produced for. That is why
 all of the servers I handle use RHEL3/4 or CentOS3/4, while my home
 desktop has god Fedora6 installed. To get all the modules of SA working
 on CentOS, the only thing you have to do is to use CPAN to install some
 perl extensions (bad way), or to use DAG's repos to fetch RPM with
 relevant perl modules already compiled and ready for use. Even more, it
 was newer a big challenge to write a RPM SPEC file for any CPAN module
 source and compile module yourself.

  I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
  spam free.
 Sorry, but I don't believe you ;-D. Such thing as 'SPAM-FREE' is only
 possible in case current email-protocols will get replaced somehow with
 more security related ones, with a guaranteed sender authentication.

 --
 Best regards,
 Alexey Loukianov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 System Engineer,
 IT Department,
 Lavtech Corp.



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[qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Kisakye Alex
Hello

 

1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been
getting the error below during installation! can any one point me in the
right direction??

 

2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core

 

Errors below;

 

Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm

 

Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386

 

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm

 

 

thanks

ALex

 



Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Gabriel Lai
Check whether sendmail is already uninstalled from the system.
issue this command: rpm -e sendmail --nodeps
I have the same problem sometime due to sendmail havent uninstall

- Original Message 
From: Kisakye Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:37:12 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] compile errors


Hello
 
1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been getting 
the error below during installation! can any one point me in the right 
direction??
 
2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while 
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I 
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core
 
Errors below;
 
Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
error: Failed build dependencies
  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm
 
Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
error: Failed build dependencies
  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386
 
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm
 
 
thanks
ALex



 

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Kisakye Alex wrote:
 Hello
 
  
 
 1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been
 getting the error below during installation! can any one point me in the
 right direction??
 
  
 
 2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while
 installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie
 can I move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with
 Fedora Core
 
  
 
 Errors below;
 
  
 
 Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
 
 error: Failed build dependencies
 
   /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by
 courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386
 
 error: File not found by glob:
 
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm
 
  
 
 Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
 
 error: Failed build dependencies
 
   courier-authlib-toaster is needed by
 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386
 
  
 
 error: File not found by glob:
 
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm
 
  
 
  
 
 thanks
 
 ALex
 

CentOS is a much better choice for a toaster distro than Fedora in terms of
 stability. You'll have far fewer OS upgrades to do once it's up and
running, and you'll also run into fewer hurdles installing and upgrading the
toaster software. There is no advantage to using Fedora that I'm aware of.
In general, Fedora is good for desktops, CentOS is good for servers.

IIRC, someone was having a problem with a particular SATA drive/controller
with CentOS4 and couldn't get the base distro installed. I've no idea why,
and I'm guessing that the HW was some sort of bleeding edge, which SATA is
generally not.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Vince Callaway
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 08:34 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote:
 CentOS is a much better choice for a toaster distro than Fedora in terms of
  stability. You'll have far fewer OS upgrades to do once it's up and
 running, and you'll also run into fewer hurdles installing and upgrading the
 toaster software. There is no advantage to using Fedora that I'm aware of.
 In general, Fedora is good for desktops, CentOS is good for servers.

While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that sent
me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.

I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
spam free.  It is true that updates come out more often for fedora than
for Centos.  Fedora is used as a test bed before things are available
for Centos and Redhat.  So long as everything is working, there is not
much need to update unless you want to.

I posted my notes previously on this list on fedora installs.  If you
follow those it is a painless install on fdr60.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Kisakye Alex
 

Sendmail is installed

 

Alex

 

  _  

From: Gabriel Lai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:02 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

 

Check whether sendmail is already uninstalled from the system.

issue this command: rpm -e sendmail --nodeps

I have the same problem sometime due to sendmail havent uninstall

- Original Message 
From: Kisakye Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:37:12 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

Hello

 

1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been
getting the error below during installation! can any one point me in the
right direction??

 

2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core

 

Errors below;

 

Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm

 

Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386

 

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm

 

 

thanks

ALex

 

 

 

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Vince Callaway wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 08:34 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote:
 CentOS is a much better choice for a toaster distro than Fedora in terms of
  stability. You'll have far fewer OS upgrades to do once it's up and
 running, and you'll also run into fewer hurdles installing and upgrading the
 toaster software. There is no advantage to using Fedora that I'm aware of.
 In general, Fedora is good for desktops, CentOS is good for servers.
 
 While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
 works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that sent
 me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
 Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.

This seems to indicate that some extra work needs to be done to get SA
working 100% on CentOS, which is indeed the case.
.) no less true on Fedora
.) SA does not need to be 100% operative to be effective. E.g. the stock
toaster has only local rules enabled.

 I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
 spam free.

spam free is relative at best. ;)
Congratulations though!

 It is true that updates come out more often for fedora than
 for Centos.  Fedora is used as a test bed before things are available
 for Centos and Redhat.  So long as everything is working, there is not
 much need to update unless you want to.

This comes down to stability/security. With CentOS, only security updates
are released and should be applied. With Fedora, you get security and
development updates, which increases the risk of instability.

 I posted my notes previously on this list on fedora installs.  If you
 follow those it is a painless install on fdr60.

I'm sure that it is. Unfortunately, Kisakye was starting with FC5! :(

Thank you for your trail blazing work, Vince. Will you kindly take the time
to post your fdr60 notes on the wiki? I'm sure it would be a valuable addition.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

yum install libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel

Try again.

Erik

On 1/17/07, Kisakye Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hello



1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been
getting the error below during installation! can any one point me in the
right direction??



2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core



Errors below;



Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm



Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386



error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm





thanks

ALex




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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Gabriel Lai
Hi Alex,

try removing sendmail:

command: rpm -e sendmail --nodeps

then try running the script again I've the same problem before.


- Original Message 
From: Kisakye Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:21:50 AM
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] compile errors


 
Sendmail is installed
 
Alex
 



From: Gabriel Lai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:02 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors
 
Check whether sendmail is already uninstalled from the system.
issue this command: rpm -e sendmail --nodeps
I have the same problem sometime due to sendmail havent uninstall
- Original Message 
From: Kisakye Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:37:12 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] compile errors
Hello
 
1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been getting 
the error below during installation! can any one point me in the right 
direction??
 
2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while 
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I 
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core
 
Errors below;
 
Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
error: Failed build dependencies
  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm
 
Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
error: Failed build dependencies
  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386
 
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm
 
 
thanks
ALex
 
 
 



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