Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-05-01 Thread Eric Shubert

Rajesh,

I meant an actual spam, not one you create. This does no good.

David's on the right track (where I was attempting to go with this). 
I'll let him carry forward on this.


RM-24x7server.net wrote:

hi

Spam with the mail to and mail from as same email id

Using a different email server, i email from  raj...@xx.com (with
different auth credentials) to raj...@xx.com (my mail server where
xx.com is hosted)

the email came thru with the following headers

###

RFC822 Message body
Return-Path: raj...@xx.com
Delivered-To: raj...@xx.com
Received: (qmail 12267 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 02:15:10 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 12262, pid: 12264, t: 0.0694s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1 spam: 3.2.5
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
ns1.xx.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE,
STOX_REPLY_TYPE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.y.com) (208.115.35.224)
by ns1.xx.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 May 2009
02:15:10 -
Received-SPF: fail (ns1.xx.com: SPF record at xx.com does not
designate 208.115.35.224 as permitted sender)
Received: (qmail 14831 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 01:49:41 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 14752, pid: 14790, t: 1.4497s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1
Received: from unknown (HELO inic1) (y...@y.com@59.184.138.203)
by ns1.yy.com with ESMTPA; 1 May 2009 01:49:40 -
Message-ID: 001e01c9ca03$40b50e90$1401a...@inic1
From: xx.com raj...@xx.com
To: raj...@xx.com
Subject: xx
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:49:20 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

corpmailserver



###



Have you received this type of spam since installing spamdyke? If so,
please post the headers from an example.

Have you modified the spamdyke configuration that qtp-install-spamdyke
installed?

If not, you might try enabling reject-ip-in-cc-rdns if that's feasible
for your use. See spamdyke documentation (http://spamdyke.org) for
details.

If so, please post your spamdyke configuration.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-05-01 Thread David Milholen

Rajesh,
Look very closely at this line in your header..
Received-SPF: fail (ns1.xx.com: SPF record at xx.com *does not
designate 208.115.35.224* as permitted sender)
This ip is not supposed to be an authorized sender for x.com.
Run that ip against the sites I listed. Look at other abusive mail and 
find these ips listed in your headers and do the same and see how many 
are foreign with a fraud profile and get busy establishing some lite 
firewalls to drop their entire CDIR or setup spamdyke to block certain 
country codes in the /etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords file.
Of course if you are in the US you can just uncomment the line 
*reject-ip-in-cc-rdns*  in the spamdyke.conf file.

Now if i can just keep my domain from greylisting itself I should be good.
TM
Dave


Eric Shubert wrote:

Rajesh,

I meant an actual spam, not one you create. This does no good.

David's on the right track (where I was attempting to go with this). 
I'll let him carry forward on this.


RM-24x7server.net wrote:

hi

Spam with the mail to and mail from as same email id

Using a different email server, i email from  raj...@xx.com (with
different auth credentials) to raj...@xx.com (my mail server where
xx.com is hosted)

the email came thru with the following headers

###

RFC822 Message body
Return-Path: raj...@xx.com
Delivered-To: raj...@xx.com
Received: (qmail 12267 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 02:15:10 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 12262, pid: 12264, t: 0.0694s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1 spam: 3.2.5
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
ns1.xx.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE,
STOX_REPLY_TYPE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.y.com) (208.115.35.224)
by ns1.xx.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 May 2009
02:15:10 -
Received-SPF: fail (ns1.xx.com: SPF record at xx.com does not
designate 208.115.35.224 as permitted sender)
Received: (qmail 14831 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 01:49:41 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 14752, pid: 14790, t: 1.4497s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1
Received: from unknown (HELO inic1) (y...@y.com@59.184.138.203)
by ns1.yy.com with ESMTPA; 1 May 2009 01:49:40 -
Message-ID: 001e01c9ca03$40b50e90$1401a...@inic1
From: xx.com raj...@xx.com
To: raj...@xx.com
Subject: xx
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:49:20 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

corpmailserver



###



Have you received this type of spam since installing spamdyke? If so,
please post the headers from an example.

Have you modified the spamdyke configuration that qtp-install-spamdyke
installed?

If not, you might try enabling reject-ip-in-cc-rdns if that's feasible
for your use. See spamdyke documentation (http://spamdyke.org) for
details.

If so, please post your spamdyke configuration.







Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-30 Thread RM-24x7server.net
hi

Spam with the mail to and mail from as same email id

Using a different email server, i email from  raj...@xx.com (with
different auth credentials) to raj...@xx.com (my mail server where
xx.com is hosted)

the email came thru with the following headers

###

RFC822 Message body
Return-Path: raj...@xx.com
Delivered-To: raj...@xx.com
Received: (qmail 12267 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 02:15:10 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 12262, pid: 12264, t: 0.0694s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1 spam: 3.2.5
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
ns1.xx.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE,
STOX_REPLY_TYPE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.y.com) (208.115.35.224)
by ns1.xx.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 May 2009
02:15:10 -
Received-SPF: fail (ns1.xx.com: SPF record at xx.com does not
designate 208.115.35.224 as permitted sender)
Received: (qmail 14831 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 01:49:41 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 14752, pid: 14790, t: 1.4497s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1
Received: from unknown (HELO inic1) (y...@y.com@59.184.138.203)
by ns1.yy.com with ESMTPA; 1 May 2009 01:49:40 -
Message-ID: 001e01c9ca03$40b50e90$1401a...@inic1
From: xx.com raj...@xx.com
To: raj...@xx.com
Subject: xx
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:49:20 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

corpmailserver



###


 Have you received this type of spam since installing spamdyke? If so,
 please post the headers from an example.

 Have you modified the spamdyke configuration that qtp-install-spamdyke
 installed?

 If not, you might try enabling reject-ip-in-cc-rdns if that's feasible
 for your use. See spamdyke documentation (http://spamdyke.org) for
 details.

 If so, please post your spamdyke configuration.

 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 i have QTP with spamdyke implemented and running on my server

 i read thru spamdyke configuration details but did not find anything
 specific that will actually block spam mail with the from and to
 address as the same but originating from a unknown server.
 Can you point me as to which specific configuration will actually track
 this and help me to block such mails?


 by the way i found a spamassassin plugin that blocks emails where the
 mail from different from the reply to which i am posting seperately
 incase it is useful for somebody -- this blocks tons of email list spam
 with minimal load on spamassassin.


 thanks
 rajesh





 Simply run the qtp-install-spamdyke script, and spamdyke will be
 installed for you. Be sure to update to the current QTP before doing
 so,
 as an older version of QTP might install an older version of spamdyke,
 or the older QTP might not contain the qtp-install-spamdyke script at
 all. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke for more.

 There is absolutely no harm in updating QTP. It is benign in and of
 itself. It's only when you run some of the QTP tools that your QMT
 configuration might change.

 I hope that answers your question.

 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

 but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is
 related
 to
 this ?

 thanks
 rajesh




 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

 i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
 from
 different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com
 and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

 what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if
 they
 are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
 *...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


 is there is method for this ?
 As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

 Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus
 (http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will
 lighten the load on your server as well.

 rajesh


 FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various
 things,
 so for me it's not spam.

 Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch
 the
 emails in question.

 --
 -Eric 'shubes'

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 -Eric 'shubes'



 --
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-30 Thread DAVID
I would take a closer look at the header and see where the orginating ip 
is coming from then run it against dns reports or ipcountryblocks.net to 
see what country it belongs to and check its fraud profile. Ill bet 99% 
that it is going to register on some level.
If you find this to be the case then confirm against other related spam 
email to see if it is foreign and if so spamdyke has a configuration to 
specifically drop certain country codes or allow them.

I am confirming this with Jake offlist.
Here is where I found this info: 
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke

TM
Dave


RM-24x7server.net wrote:

hi

Spam with the mail to and mail from as same email id

Using a different email server, i email from  raj...@xx.com (with
different auth credentials) to raj...@xx.com (my mail server where
xx.com is hosted)

the email came thru with the following headers

###

RFC822 Message body
Return-Path: raj...@xx.com
Delivered-To: raj...@xx.com
Received: (qmail 12267 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 02:15:10 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 12262, pid: 12264, t: 0.0694s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1 spam: 3.2.5
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
ns1.xx.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE,
STOX_REPLY_TYPE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.y.com) (208.115.35.224)
by ns1.xx.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 May 2009
02:15:10 -
Received-SPF: fail (ns1.xx.com: SPF record at xx.com does not
designate 208.115.35.224 as permitted sender)
Received: (qmail 14831 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 01:49:41 -
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 14752, pid: 14790, t: 1.4497s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1
Received: from unknown (HELO inic1) (y...@y.com@59.184.138.203)
by ns1.yy.com with ESMTPA; 1 May 2009 01:49:40 -
Message-ID: 001e01c9ca03$40b50e90$1401a...@inic1
From: xx.com raj...@xx.com
To: raj...@xx.com
Subject: xx
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:49:20 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

corpmailserver



###


  

Have you received this type of spam since installing spamdyke? If so,
please post the headers from an example.

Have you modified the spamdyke configuration that qtp-install-spamdyke
installed?

If not, you might try enabling reject-ip-in-cc-rdns if that's feasible
for your use. See spamdyke documentation (http://spamdyke.org) for
details.

If so, please post your spamdyke configuration.

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:


hi

i have QTP with spamdyke implemented and running on my server

i read thru spamdyke configuration details but did not find anything
specific that will actually block spam mail with the from and to
address as the same but originating from a unknown server.
Can you point me as to which specific configuration will actually track
this and help me to block such mails?


by the way i found a spamassassin plugin that blocks emails where the
mail from different from the reply to which i am posting seperately
incase it is useful for somebody -- this blocks tons of email list spam
with minimal load on spamassassin.


thanks
rajesh





  

Simply run the qtp-install-spamdyke script, and spamdyke will be
installed for you. Be sure to update to the current QTP before doing
so,
as an older version of QTP might install an older version of spamdyke,
or the older QTP might not contain the qtp-install-spamdyke script at
all. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke for more.

There is absolutely no harm in updating QTP. It is benign in and of
itself. It's only when you run some of the QTP tools that your QMT
configuration might change.

I hope that answers your question.

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:


hi

we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is
related
to
this ?

thanks
rajesh




  

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:


hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com
and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if
they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.



Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-28 Thread Jake Vickers

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

i have QTP with spamdyke implemented and running on my server

i read thru spamdyke configuration details but did not find anything
specific that will actually block spam mail with the from and to
address as the same but originating from a unknown server.
Can you point me as to which specific configuration will actually track
this and help me to block such mails?


by the way i found a spamassassin plugin that blocks emails where the
mail from different from the reply to which i am posting seperately
incase it is useful for somebody -- this blocks tons of email list spam
with minimal load on spamassassin.

  


9 times out of 10 those messages will be blocked by RBL or a reverse DNS 
check, which spamdyke will perform for you.
Thanks for finding the spamassassin plugin. Now someone just needs to 
add it to the wiki.
I couldn't use it for any of my clients however. They like to use 
different reply-to addresses. I even do the same myself when I have 
multiple domains on the same server.

Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-28 Thread Eric Shubert
Have you received this type of spam since installing spamdyke? If so, 
please post the headers from an example.


Have you modified the spamdyke configuration that qtp-install-spamdyke 
installed?


If not, you might try enabling reject-ip-in-cc-rdns if that's feasible 
for your use. See spamdyke documentation (http://spamdyke.org) for details.


If so, please post your spamdyke configuration.

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

i have QTP with spamdyke implemented and running on my server

i read thru spamdyke configuration details but did not find anything
specific that will actually block spam mail with the from and to
address as the same but originating from a unknown server.
Can you point me as to which specific configuration will actually track
this and help me to block such mails?


by the way i found a spamassassin plugin that blocks emails where the
mail from different from the reply to which i am posting seperately
incase it is useful for somebody -- this blocks tons of email list spam
with minimal load on spamassassin.


thanks
rajesh






Simply run the qtp-install-spamdyke script, and spamdyke will be
installed for you. Be sure to update to the current QTP before doing so,
as an older version of QTP might install an older version of spamdyke,
or the older QTP might not contain the qtp-install-spamdyke script at
all. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke for more.

There is absolutely no harm in updating QTP. It is benign in and of
itself. It's only when you run some of the QTP tools that your QMT
configuration might change.

I hope that answers your question.

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is related
to
this ?

thanks
rajesh





24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com
and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if
they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


is there is method for this ?

As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus
(http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will
lighten the load on your server as well.


rajesh



FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various
things,
so for me it's not spam.

Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
emails in question.


--
-Eric 'shubes'


--
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-27 Thread Eric Shubert
Simply run the qtp-install-spamdyke script, and spamdyke will be 
installed for you. Be sure to update to the current QTP before doing so, 
as an older version of QTP might install an older version of spamdyke, 
or the older QTP might not contain the qtp-install-spamdyke script at 
all. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke for more.


There is absolutely no harm in updating QTP. It is benign in and of 
itself. It's only when you run some of the QTP tools that your QMT 
configuration might change.


I hope that answers your question.

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is related to
this ?

thanks
rajesh





24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


is there is method for this ?

As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus
(http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will
lighten the load on your server as well.


rajesh



FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various things,
so for me it's not spam.

Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
emails in question.


--
-Eric 'shubes'



--
-Eric 'shubes'


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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-27 Thread 24x7server
hi

i have QTP with spamdyke implemented and running on my server

i read thru spamdyke configuration details but did not find anything
specific that will actually block spam mail with the from and to
address as the same but originating from a unknown server.
Can you point me as to which specific configuration will actually track
this and help me to block such mails?


by the way i found a spamassassin plugin that blocks emails where the
mail from different from the reply to which i am posting seperately
incase it is useful for somebody -- this blocks tons of email list spam
with minimal load on spamassassin.


thanks
rajesh





 Simply run the qtp-install-spamdyke script, and spamdyke will be
 installed for you. Be sure to update to the current QTP before doing so,
 as an older version of QTP might install an older version of spamdyke,
 or the older QTP might not contain the qtp-install-spamdyke script at
 all. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke for more.

 There is absolutely no harm in updating QTP. It is benign in and of
 itself. It's only when you run some of the QTP tools that your QMT
 configuration might change.

 I hope that answers your question.

 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

 but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is related
 to
 this ?

 thanks
 rajesh




 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

 i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
 from
 different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com
 and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

 what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if
 they
 are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
 *...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


 is there is method for this ?
 As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

 Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus
 (http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will
 lighten the load on your server as well.

 rajesh


 FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various
 things,
 so for me it's not spam.

 Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
 emails in question.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-26 Thread 24x7server
hi

we are indeed using qmailtoaster plus (QTP)

but i would like to know which specific configuration of QTP is related to
this ?

thanks
rajesh




 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 hi

 in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
 whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

 i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming
 from
 different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

 what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if they
 are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
 xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
 *...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


 is there is method for this ?

 As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

 Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus
 (http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will
 lighten the load on your server as well.

 rajesh


 FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various things,
 so for me it's not spam.

 Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
 emails in question.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread 24x7server
thanks for your reply

spamassassin is such an advanced software i am sure there will be some way
out to handle this.

i hope somebody suggests a solution because such emails would be a
definite spam

rajesh


 On Thursday 23 April 2009 12:58:17 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the mail
 to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such
 emails

 2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
 (reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to
 the
 email.

 I have asked the same question in spamassassin mailing list, but it seems
 that
 spamassassin cannot do it.

 I have tried to harden my SPF to block it (v=spf1 mx -all instead of
 v=spf1
 mx ~all ) , but it create more problem.

 My suggestion is to train the spamassassin bayes to catch the spam.

 --
 Regards,

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 iNterNUX --- http://www.internux.net.id/
 Jalan Dr. Sam Ratulangi No. 53J Makassar
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread Eric Shubert
FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various things, 
so for me it's not spam.


Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the 
emails in question.


24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

thanks for your reply

spamassassin is such an advanced software i am sure there will be some way
out to handle this.

i hope somebody suggests a solution because such emails would be a
definite spam

rajesh



On Thursday 23 April 2009 12:58:17 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the mail
to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such
emails

2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
(reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to
the
email.

I have asked the same question in spamassassin mailing list, but it seems
that
spamassassin cannot do it.

I have tried to harden my SPF to block it (v=spf1 mx -all instead of
v=spf1
mx ~all ) , but it create more problem.

My suggestion is to train the spamassassin bayes to catch the spam.

--
Regards,

Adi Nugroho - http://adi.internux.co.id/
iNterNUX --- http://www.internux.net.id/
Jalan Dr. Sam Ratulangi No. 53J Makassar
Tel. +62-411-834690  Fax. +62-411-834691
CDMA:+62-411-6109535 GSM:+62-816-27-9193





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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread Jake Vickers

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

thanks for your reply

spamassassin is such an advanced software i am sure there will be some way
out to handle this.

i hope somebody suggests a solution because such emails would be a
definite spam

rajesh


  

On Thursday 23 April 2009 12:58:17 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:


1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the mail
to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such
emails

2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
(reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to
the
email.
  


This subject comes up on other mail server mailing lists almost weekly. 
Basically the bulk of them are blocked by blacklists (RBLs) or by 
performing reverse DNS checks. Spamassassin cannot catch them; I have 
many users (especially with Blackberry devices) who BCC their own 
messages to themselves for archiving purposes. I used to do this myself 
until I switched to IMAP exclusively.
You *can* enable SURBL checks in Spamassassin which may score them 
enough to tag them as spam (and possibly delete them depending on your 
settings) but that's all Spamassassin can do.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread 24x7server
hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


is there is method for this ?


rajesh


 FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various things,
 so for me it's not spam.

 Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
 emails in question.

 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 thanks for your reply

 spamassassin is such an advanced software i am sure there will be some
 way
 out to handle this.

 i hope somebody suggests a solution because such emails would be a
 definite spam

 rajesh


 On Thursday 23 April 2009 12:58:17 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the
 mail
 to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such
 emails

 2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
 (reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to
 the
 email.
 I have asked the same question in spamassassin mailing list, but it
 seems
 that
 spamassassin cannot do it.

 I have tried to harden my SPF to block it (v=spf1 mx -all instead of
 v=spf1
 mx ~all ) , but it create more problem.

 My suggestion is to train the spamassassin bayes to catch the spam.

 --
 Regards,

 Adi Nugroho - http://adi.internux.co.id/
 iNterNUX --- http://www.internux.net.id/
 Jalan Dr. Sam Ratulangi No. 53J Makassar
 Tel. +62-411-834690  Fax. +62-411-834691
 CDMA:+62-411-6109535 GSM:+62-816-27-9193




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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread Jake Vickers

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


is there is method for this ?


rajesh


  


SPF if they set up the DNS records.
If you know IP addresses, you can probably write a maildrop script to 
parse this or a very advanced Spamassassin rule, but I think it would be 
less resource intensive to handle it via maildrop.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-23 Thread Eric Shubert

24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:

hi

in spamassassin i generally whitelist specific domains

whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com abc.friendlydomain.com
whitelist_from_rcvd *...@friendlydomain.com xyz.friendlydomain.com

i know for sure that the emails from *...@friendlydomain.com and coming from
different ip addressess - friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com are good email

what i need to do is blacklist emails from *...@friendlydomain.com if they
are NOT from friendlydomain.com, abc.friendlydomain.com and
xyz.friendlydomain.com since i know for sure that emails from
*...@friendlydomain.com will not originate from any other server.


is there is method for this ?


As Jake explained, no. Spamassassin won't catch this type of spam.

Use spamdyke. There is a script in qmailtoaster-plus 
(http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) that will install it for you. It will 
lighten the load on your server as well.



rajesh



FWIW, I have a user who does this periodically to save various things,
so for me it's not spam.

Are you using spamdyke? I'd be surprised if spamdyke didn't catch the
emails in question.


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[qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-22 Thread 24x7server
hi

this is more related to spamassassin.

1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the mail
to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such emails
if the same does not originate from my server. So basically i need to
check if  header mail from and mail to are the same and also whether
the source of the email is my server ip if not then allocate a score to
the email.


2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
(reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to the
email.


thanks
rajesh







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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam blocking questions

2009-04-22 Thread Adi Nugroho
On Thursday 23 April 2009 12:58:17 24x7ser...@24x7server.net wrote:
 1) I sometimes receive spam mail with both the mail from and the mail
 to as the same email id. I need a spamassassin rule to block such emails

 2) a spamassassin rule to compare the mail from and envelope sender
 (reply-to) and if both don't match then allocate a particular score to the
 email.

I have asked the same question in spamassassin mailing list, but it seems that 
spamassassin cannot do it.

I have tried to harden my SPF to block it (v=spf1 mx -all instead of v=spf1 
mx ~all ) , but it create more problem.

My suggestion is to train the spamassassin bayes to catch the spam.

-- 
Regards,

Adi Nugroho - http://adi.internux.co.id/
iNterNUX --- http://www.internux.net.id/
Jalan Dr. Sam Ratulangi No. 53J Makassar
Tel. +62-411-834690  Fax. +62-411-834691
CDMA:+62-411-6109535 GSM:+62-816-27-9193







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