RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
I'm not familiar with BIND DNS settings. What I would like to do is query the DNS servers for the domain the same way any normal dns server will do. I want to make sure of is that when a DNS server asks for the record info, that your DNS is giving the correct info. You can do this yourself. Below is yahoo's. From a windows DOS prompt you can see how my DNS server responds by following along: Type the following: nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE t=y; o=~ RESPONSE S1024._domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE PUBLIC KEY Don't worry about the s1024 from yahoo, if you followed the wiki instructions yours will be private. You should be able to see the same responses if you test your domain the same way. If not, you don't have the DNS entries correct. -P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:25 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. These are what I currently have in the BIND DNS setup for this domain; domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- private._domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=ME***SNIP***AB xxx.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra xxx.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all Aren't these all of the items I need in there? This is what I posted earlier. When you say inside that, I'm assuming you mean the public key in the DNS record and the private key in the proper directory. Yes, both done. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. I'm using Linux BIND. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
I can email you directly about this and appreciate your helping with this :). It is companions.com and mail.companions.com. Type the following: nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE t=y; o=~ RESPONSE S1024._domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE PUBLIC KEY ]# nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.companions.com Server: 192.168.1.30 Address:192.168.1.30#53 Non-authoritative answer: *** Can't find _domainkey.companions.com: No answer Authoritative answers can be found from: companions.com origin = dns.logicore.net mail addr = support.companions.com serial = 1194741457 refresh = 10800 retry = 3600 expire = 604800 minimum = 10800 I would have to say I don't have the right DNS settings then? So, depending on your additional input, I should stop messing with the QMT machine and try to figure out the DNS issues. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Mike I think you got it now!!! I just tested again and got the correct results from querying _domainkey.comapnions.com AND private._domainkey.comapnions.com I tried without the underscore and got nothing. Now WITH it I get the key. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:17 PM To: Phil Leinhauser Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Phil, Here is the exact record from my DNS. private._domainkey.companions.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=MEwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADOwAwOAIxALxL75t/aqvDxacK1nvs8we+4meJedcn W0zX9e9150kZPNH3VEVwe/qsOnHf8uXSAQIDAQAB companions.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra companions.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.companions.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- I think the answer is finally becoming clear! What I have noticed is that BIND seems to have taken my underscore out of the record. Because, when I test without it, it seems to work; domainkey.companions.com Server: 192.168.1.30 Address:192.168.1.30#53 Non-authoritative answer: domainkey.companions.comtext = t=y\; o=- Authoritative answers can be found from: companions.com nameserver = dns.logicore.net. companions.com nameserver = psa.logicore.net. dns.logicore.netinternet address = 67.98.10.50 psa.logicore.netinternet address = 67.98.10.31 Mike On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:57:29 -0500, Phil Leinhauser wrote: Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Yes, for now lets get DNS working correctly first. You have a couple issues we need to clean up. For the rest of the list, I'm going to take this offline to keep traffic down. What I see is his DNS server is on private IP which could be OK but need to check. Also it's not responding with the right info. When we get it fixed, we will update the group. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:48 PM To: Phil Leinhauser Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking I can email you directly about this and appreciate your helping with this :). It is companions.com and mail.companions.com. Type the following: nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE t=y; o=~ RESPONSE S1024._domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE PUBLIC KEY ]# nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.companions.com Server: 192.168.1.30 Address:192.168.1.30#53 Non-authoritative answer: *** Can't find _domainkey.companions.com: No answer Authoritative answers can be found from: companions.com origin = dns.logicore.net mail addr = support.companions.com serial = 1194741457 refresh = 10800 retry = 3600 expire = 604800 minimum = 10800 I would have to say I don't have the right DNS settings then? So, depending on your additional input, I should stop messing with the QMT machine and try to figure out the DNS issues. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Phil, Here is the exact record from my DNS. private._domainkey.companions.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=MEwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADOwAwOAIxALxL75t/aqvDxacK1nvs8we+4meJedcn W0zX9e9150kZPNH3VEVwe/qsOnHf8uXSAQIDAQAB companions.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra companions.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.companions.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- I think the answer is finally becoming clear! What I have noticed is that BIND seems to have taken my underscore out of the record. Because, when I test without it, it seems to work; domainkey.companions.com Server: 192.168.1.30 Address:192.168.1.30#53 Non-authoritative answer: domainkey.companions.comtext = t=y\; o=- Authoritative answers can be found from: companions.com nameserver = dns.logicore.net. companions.com nameserver = psa.logicore.net. dns.logicore.netinternet address = 67.98.10.50 psa.logicore.netinternet address = 67.98.10.31 Mike On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:57:29 -0500, Phil Leinhauser wrote: Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Yup, I just don't get it. I've seen two camps, some that say works right off the bat and others who say they have been messing with this for who knows how long. Here I have a server that very badly needs to be able to send email to hotmail and yahoo and those are the two domains I just can't seem to get mail to. I'm at a loss. Might have to actually go commercial which sucks because I'm always telling everyone how important OS is. Mike On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:17:59 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Mike you and I both. I think that I have something messed up in my tcp.smtp file but am not for sure. I posted it a couple of emails back Thanks Q -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Mike, Could you send me the domain you're trying this on? I can do a couple nslookups against it to see if the DNS resolves for _domainkeys. You can send it offline if you want. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:14 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking As far as I know I've done that correctly. I'm obviously missing something since it's still not working. private._domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=ME***SNIP***AB xxx.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra xxx.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- The my tcp.smtp; # more /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,R BL SMTPD= 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,DKSIGN=/ var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private xx.xx.xx.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,DKSIGN=/var /qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private :allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUS ER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,\ QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/ pr ivate,\ DKVERIFY=DEGIJKfh,DKQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue.orig My control file spfbehavior is currently set to 3 since I was testing. Is there something else I should post? Mike On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:57:29 -0500, Phil Leinhauser wrote: Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
As far as I know I've done that correctly. I'm obviously missing something since it's still not working. private._domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=ME***SNIP***AB xxx.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra xxx.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- The my tcp.smtp; # more /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,RBL SMTPD= 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,DKSIGN=/ var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private xx.xx.xx.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,DKSIGN=/var /qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private :allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUS ER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,\ QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/pr ivate,\ DKVERIFY=DEGIJKfh,DKQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue.orig My control file spfbehavior is currently set to 3 since I was testing. Is there something else I should post? Mike On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:57:29 -0500, Phil Leinhauser wrote: Did you add the _domainkey to your DNS? Also, inside that there should be a txt record with your private key. In Microsoft DNS, the _domainkey looks like a sub domain. Actually it's a holder for service records. The private record goes in that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Here is additional input. I have two public DNS servers and two private DNS servers on the network. The public servers are for my public records. The private one's have nothing on them and are DNS for my internal machines to get out to the world. The testing I am doing is from one of the internal servers. Mike On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0500, Phil Leinhauser wrote: Yes, for now lets get DNS working correctly first. You have a couple issues we need to clean up. For the rest of the list, I'm going to take this offline to keep traffic down. What I see is his DNS server is on private IP which could be OK but need to check. Also it's not responding with the right info. When we get it fixed, we will update the group. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:48 PM To: Phil Leinhauser Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking I can email you directly about this and appreciate your helping with this :). It is companions.com and mail.companions.com. Type the following: nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE t=y; o=~ RESPONSE S1024._domainkey.yahoo.com YOU GET THE PUBLIC KEY ]# nslookup set type=TXT _domainkey.companions.com Server: 192.168.1.30 Address:192.168.1.30#53 Non-authoritative answer: *** Can't find _domainkey.companions.com: No answer Authoritative answers can be found from: companions.com origin = dns.logicore.net mail addr = support.companions.com serial = 1194741457 refresh = 10800 retry = 3600 expire = 604800 minimum = 10800 I would have to say I don't have the right DNS settings then? So, depending on your additional input, I should stop messing with the QMT machine and try to figure out the DNS issues. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Mike you and I both. I think that I have something messed up in my tcp.smtp file but am not for sure. I posted it a couple of emails back Thanks Q -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking A full day later and I am still getting the same result from the test? Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Does anyone else have any input on this? I can't believe I'm the only one still having this problem as I've seen countless others post about it. I very badly need to be able to get email to yahoo and hotmail. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 20, 2007 6:46 PM, Adam Cantwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd W wrote: From: Todd W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains listed in the given domain's MX section) So does the list agree that this is a sane generic DNS TXT record to suggest for spf? That is definitely how it should look unless you have a specific reason to include additional hosts. IIRC from the standard, the use of mx and ptr is unreliable and should be avoided at all costs. So the list dosen't agree? Could you suggest what should be used as a generic SPF record, Erik? Thanks, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: Adam Cantwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records If anybody has does all of those steps and (after DNS propagates) still has problems sending mail to any of those providers, then I want to know because I'm not seeing any problems. Hi Adam, I have all of the settings you specify for osbank.net and mail to hotmail is silently discarded and yahoo and gmail go to the bulk mail box. Thanks for your interest. If you want any more info let me know. Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. Very much appreciated. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
I have yet to find a way of getting past these problems. Yahoo mail and gmail is still being deferred while hotmail just plain disappears. What was the final suggestion on this? I can't seem to find those emails and wish to try them once more. Mike From: Adam Cantwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records If anybody has does all of those steps and (after DNS propagates) still has problems sending mail to any of those providers, then I want to know because I'm not seeing any problems. Hi Adam, I have all of the settings you specify for osbank.net and mail to hotmail is silently discarded and yahoo and gmail go to the bulk mail box. Thanks for your interest. If you want any more info let me know. Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. For domainkeys, I used http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys For spf, I set up two TXT DNS requests. @ spf2.0/pra @ v=spf1 mx -all Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Thanks. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:23:43 -0500, Todd W wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. For domainkeys, I used http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys For spf, I set up two TXT DNS requests. @ spf2.0/pra @ v=spf1 mx -all Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Hmm, I'm still being defferred by yahoo and going to the junk folder on hotmail. Junk folder is at least something and gmail works perfectly now. private._domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=MEww**SNIP**AQIDAQAB xxx.com.IN TXT spf2.0/pra xxx.com.IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- I still have spf set to 1 in my spfbehavior file. I've set up the DK in tcp.smtp. My tcp.smtp; 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private, RBLSMTPD= 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1, DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private xx.xx.xx.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1, DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private :allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50, CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,\ QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/ private,\ DKVERIFY=DEGIJKfh,DKQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue.orig Some things which aren't clear; The % is replace by the domain name in the From: header. I'm assuming this is saying that this *will* be replaced by the application and not that I need to enter the domain name here. I make that assumption because if I was doing multi domains on this server, this would not work. DKQUEUE The DKQUEUE variable points to the original qmail-queue program for passing the message on down the line when verification completes: DKQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue.orig This is probably not necessary, but is provided for clarity. Needed or deprecated? Then I went to the yahoo testing page and tested; Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Have I forgotten something or will it be a DNS propagation thing? Mike On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:23:43 -0500, Todd W wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. For domainkeys, I used http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys For spf, I set up two TXT DNS requests. @ spf2.0/pra @ v=spf1 mx -all Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Hello all, I think I am getting somewhere with this now. I am getting through to yahoo's bulk mail and I think that I see where the issue is. If I email from gmail to yahoo I get ta550.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok) If I email from wifi7.com to yahoo domainkeys=neutral (no sig) So it does not look like my emails are being signed However if I send my email from webmail there is a dkim on them. Here is a copy of my tcp.smtp file Any thoughts? 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,R BLS :allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUSER_WRONG RCP 12.168.80.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 12.168.90.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 12.168.84.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 12.168.85.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 68.22.149.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 64.24.214.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 12.191.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 64.27.31.108:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 74.218.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 12.43.212.194:allow,RELAYCLIENT= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:46 PM To: Todd W Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Thanks. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:23:43 -0500, Todd W wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. For domainkeys, I used http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys For spf, I set up two TXT DNS requests. @ spf2.0/pra @ v=spf1 mx -all Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
The results of my testing all fail so far. MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PRA: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPF-Record-Classic: none found SPF-Record-MFROM Scope: none found SPF-Record-PRA Scope: none found SPF-Method Result: unknown(xxx.com: domain of xxx.com uses a mechanism not recognized by this client) SenderID-MFROM-Method Result: unknown(xxx.com: domain of xxx.com uses a mechanism not recognized by this client) SenderID-PRA-Method Result: unknown(xxx.com: domain of xxx.com uses a mechanism not recognized by this client) DomainKey-Status: bad format: No DomainKey signature found DKIM-Status: failed (no signature found) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from xx.xx.xx.249 by 69.56.15.194 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:42:42 -0600 From: Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:42:48 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SPF is now set to 3. Mike On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:23:43 -0500, Todd W wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Todd, As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Can you elaborate on how one would go about setting up multiple records such as this? I'd like to give this a try and see if I can finally get past my yahoo/gmail/hotmail problems. For domainkeys, I used http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Domainkeys For spf, I set up two TXT DNS requests. @ spf2.0/pra @ v=spf1 mx -all Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm, I'm still being defferred by yahoo and going to the junk folder on hotmail. Junk folder is at least something and gmail works perfectly now. Nice. For me gmail goes to the bulk folder and mail to hotmail is discarded. private._domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT k=rsa; p=MEww**SNIP**AQIDAQAB xxx.com. IN TXT spf2.0/pra xxx.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all domainkey.xxx.com. IN TXT t=y; o=- Yep, thats what my stuff looks like. I still have spf set to 1 in my spfbehavior file. I've set up the DK in tcp.smtp. My tcp.smtp; ... DKQUEUE ... Needed or deprecated? I think these items control how your local server handles domainkeys for inbound messages. You are working on domainkeys for outbound messages. Then I went to the yahoo testing page and tested; Testing xxx.com New test No _domainkey TXT record found for xxx.com Have I forgotten something or will it be a DNS propagation thing? Probably. Check the TTL on the record. Even then they may not flush thier cache until much after the TTL expires. Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: Todd W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains listed in the given domain's MX section) So does the list agree that this is a sane generic DNS TXT record to suggest for spf? Thanks, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Todd W wrote: From: Todd W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains listed in the given domain's MX section) So does the list agree that this is a sane generic DNS TXT record to suggest for spf? Thanks, Todd W. That is definitely how it should look unless you have a specific reason to include additional hosts. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IIRC from the standard, the use of mx and ptr is unreliable and should be avoided at all costs. On Nov 20, 2007 6:46 PM, Adam Cantwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd W wrote: From: Todd W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains listed in the given domain's MX section) So does the list agree that this is a sane generic DNS TXT record to suggest for spf? Thanks, Todd W. That is definitely how it should look unless you have a specific reason to include additional hosts. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I got so caught up in the lost hostname and IMAP/POP not starting that I've not been able to get back to the domainkeys issue. Domainekys are turns off at this point as suggested for testing. I'm still getting deferred sends to yahoo and god knows what to hotmail. When I test using various Internet tools to see if settings are correct, they certainly seem to be. This morning, something new again. A user cannot send email between domains on the same QMT machine. Unknown response Server replied: 571 sorry, sender address has invalid format (#5.7.1 - chkuser) Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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once I get the form from Yahoo to get my Server IP whitelisted but then if I check my send log it still deferred by Yahoo 2007-11-13 14:48:04.241798500 delivery 479586: deferral: User_and_password_not_set,_continuing_without_authentication./[EMAIL PROTECTED]_216.39.xx.xx_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_421_Message_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.51._Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ well it only wait for several minutes up until the messages when through... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
It's impossible to reach anyone there, at least has been with me. I've filled in their forms several times as well and even after making all of the changes suggested in this thread, I'm still being deferred. Talk about confusing. On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:06:07 +0700, PakOgah wrote: once I get the form from Yahoo to get my Server IP whitelisted but then if I check my send log it still deferred by Yahoo 2007-11-13 14:48:04.241798500 delivery 479586: deferral: User_and_password_not_set,_continuing_without_authentication./[EMAIL PROTECTED] ho o.com_216.39.xx.xx_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_421_M es sage_temporarily_deferred_- _4.16.51._Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer- 06.html/ well it only wait for several minutes up until the messages when through... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's impossible to reach anyone there, at least has been with me. I've filled in their forms several times as well and even after making all of the changes suggested in this thread, I'm still being deferred. Talk about confusing. I did eventually get through to a human postmaster at yahoo via that form, but it took a couple days for them to respond. Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Really? I'll give it another try. Which form did you use? I've sent it several times, just can't seem to reach anyone. Mike On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:53:26 -0500, Todd W wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's impossible to reach anyone there, at least has been with me. I've filled in their forms several times as well and even after making all of the changes suggested in this thread, I'm still being deferred. Talk about confusing. I did eventually get through to a human postmaster at yahoo via that form, but it took a couple days for them to respond. Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Warren Melnick wrote: Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 http://216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5 http://74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 http://216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5 http://74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 . ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly. For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record (http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this spf2.0/pra. This solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN. Before, I had the same Hotmail issues you describe. You should also have a normal SPF 1 record. Google checks both SPF and DK. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Here is a header from an email that went into my spam folder with gmail. I am guessing this a domain keys issues Does the toaster now support this? Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. Thanks Q _ From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:36 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran. _ From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 . ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the spf2.0 IN TXT spf2.0/pra Thanks Q -Original Message- From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:37 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Warren Melnick wrote: Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 http://216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5 http://74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 http://216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5 http://74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 . ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly. For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record (http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this spf2.0/pra. This solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN. Before, I had the same Hotmail issues you describe. You should also have a normal SPF 1 record. Google checks both SPF and DK. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? According to dnsstuff I seem to but then, it's not always right either. Are there any sites on the net that allow you to send them an email as a test for an analyzed result? For Yahoo, you should have domainkeys setup properly. Can't say I'm sure about domainkeys. I thought I had turned that off? I'll have to look. Thanks for the reply on this. Mike For Hotmail, you should setup a null SPF 2 (senderID) record (http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID) like this spf2.0/pra. This solved all off my issues with Hotmail/MSN. Before, I had the same Hotmail issues you describe. You should also have a normal SPF 1 record. Google checks both SPF and DK. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Out of curiosity, have you tried dnsstuff to see what their result is? That's the only site I've tried for testing since I don't know of any others. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:35:30 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran. From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 . ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kyle Quillen wrote: So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the spf2.0 IN TXT spf2.0/pra Thanks Q Yes, that syntax is correct. Like I said, that alone solved all of my issues with Hotmail/MSN. As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF. They are the originators of DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to them. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Yes I use dnsstuff on a regular basis Thanks q -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:53 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Out of curiosity, have you tried dnsstuff to see what their result is? That's the only site I've tried for testing since I don't know of any others. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:35:30 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Yes this passes on all tests that I have ran. From: Warren Melnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:29 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Do you have a properly formatted SPF record in place for your domain? W On Nov 12, 2007 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: Hello all, I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Thanks for your help Q Here is the error messages I keep getting: Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. : Connected to 216.39.53.1 but greeting failed. Remote host said: 421 Message from (74.218.24.5) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 . ly deferred or 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred errors when sending mail to Yahoo!? If you are seeing the error code 421 Message from x.x.x.x temporarily deferred or 451 Message temporarily deferred in your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send was not accepted at Yahoo!. It is not a permanent error; your system will automatically re-try later. If you are seeing this same error consistently over an extended period of time, and you feel that your policies and practices comply with our guidelines (described below), we would encourage you to contact us with detailed information so that we can help diagnose your problem. For bulk mailers, please visit this page to review our best practice recommendations and, if appropriate, request assistance. If your mail server does not primarily send bulk mailings (e.g., you run a personal, corporate, educational, or ISP mail server), please fill out this form instead. If you are not the administrator of the mail server in question, please contact the administrator directly with the error message you are receiving. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. How did you work around that or is it now working correctly? Thanks Q -Original Message- From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Kyle Quillen wrote: So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the spf2.0 IN TXT spf2.0/pra Thanks Q Yes, that syntax is correct. Like I said, that alone solved all of my issues with Hotmail/MSN. As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF. They are the originators of DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to them. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
I don't think that there is anything wrong with the toaster's ability to add a DomainKey signature to outgoing Emails. -Original Message- From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. How did you work around that or is it now working correctly? Thanks Q -Original Message- From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Kyle Quillen wrote: So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the spf2.0 IN TXT spf2.0/pra Thanks Q Yes, that syntax is correct. Like I said, that alone solved all of my issues with Hotmail/MSN. As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF. They are the originators of DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to them. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Hmm ok I will start to dig into this a little deeper Thanks Q -Original Message- From: Tim Mancour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:30 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking I don't think that there is anything wrong with the toaster's ability to add a DomainKey signature to outgoing Emails. -Original Message- From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. How did you work around that or is it now working correctly? Thanks Q -Original Message- From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:54 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Kyle Quillen wrote: So am I Right in saying that my dns record should look like this for the spf2.0 IN TXT spf2.0/pra Thanks Q Yes, that syntax is correct. Like I said, that alone solved all of my issues with Hotmail/MSN. As for Yahoo, they don't check SPF. They are the originators of DomainKey, and so you should have that setup properly to have reliable delivery to them. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kyle Quillen wrote: If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. How did you work around that or is it now working correctly? Thanks Q I wasn't aware DK was broken in the toaster? I admin several QMT boxes, but none of them actually use DK to sign, they just validate incoming DK signed messages and that part works fine. The only qmail box I use to sign with DK is my qmailrocks-ish machine. I can try it out on a QMT box late tonight, but won't have time to get to it before then. Maybe someone has a better answer on this than me? Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
Hmm It may just be me having something messed up. I will continue to dig into this. What baffles me is that I have made no changes. Anyways thanks for all your help. Q -Original Message- From: Adam Cantwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:10 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking Kyle Quillen wrote: If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. How did you work around that or is it now working correctly? Thanks Q I wasn't aware DK was broken in the toaster? I admin several QMT boxes, but none of them actually use DK to sign, they just validate incoming DK signed messages and that part works fine. The only qmail box I use to sign with DK is my qmailrocks-ish machine. I can try it out on a QMT box late tonight, but won't have time to get to it before then. Maybe someone has a better answer on this than me? Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: Kyle Quillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I remember correctly Domain Keys was broken in the Toaster and thus was disabled. I dont know for sure myself because I'm just learning it, too. But: When you talk about domain keys and qmt, there are two seperate parts. 1. setting up DNS and certificates so servers you send mail to can verify your domainkey setup. 2. parsing and verifying domainkey setups for incoming email. I think when we read that domainkeys is broken what is being referred to is #2. Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:17:50 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: I have been fighting a problem with yahoo in that they are deferring all of my mail. Of course I have gone and filled out all of their forms and such but I just cannot seem to figure out what is going on and they for sure are not getting back to me. Anyways I think I have narrowed it down to be that it is a domain keys problem and that is why they are blocking me. Does anyone have any kind of an idea as to what I can do to start to get my emails flowing back to them? Whom ever helps you will ultimately help me as well. Not only do I have this problem with yahoo but email to hotmail just plain disappears. Not even a bounce and nothing in their bulk/spam folders either. This is a problem I'm constantly dealing with, too. I think if we pool our resources here, we can get the problem licked once and for all. I see the suggestion of adding a blank spf2 record, but in my mind right now that being the fix defies so much logic that I'd like to investigate further. I know Microsoft's SPF checker is broken. But the postmaster that I got in contact with acted like it was coded by God himself. I have some time and even a bit of money that would be worth it to invest to get this fixed. Here are my stats: Hotmail: silently fails Yahoo: sent to bulk Gmail: sent to bulk AOL: GOOD Regards, Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain Keys/Yahoo Blocking
From: Adam Cantwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been dealing with the Hotmail/MSN issue for quite some time, and the general consensus from everywhere I've searched has been to add the null SPF 2 record. Until Microsoft fixes their implementation of senderID, the null SPF 2 record IS the fix, as per www.openspf.org. Great. I used that to get started with SPF, but missed the tip. As per my previous posts this morning on this topic, the following has been 100% effective on seven qmail servers that I manage in getting mail delivered: Hotmail/MSN: null spf2 TXT record Yahoo: setup DK to sign outbound mail for your domain Gmail: setup both DK to sign and spf1 TXT records Thanks Adam this is some great info. I'm using 'v=spf1 mx -all' for my spf record. Is this a good, generic setting that we can suggest on the wiki? (i.e. accept mail from all domains listed in the given domain's MX section) Todd W. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
