Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list

2013-07-18 Thread Dan McAllister
QmailAdmin has MOST of the controls you need for ezmlm -- 
list/add/remove subscribers, list/add/remove moderators, as well as the 
ability to edit most list behaviors (who can post, how much moderation 
is involved, how subscribe/unsubscribe requests are handled, 
archiving/indexing options, and so on.


*The biggest problem for most of US (admins) is that we assume 
qmailadmin is just for admins!* After all, we /almost never/ use any 
account other than *postmaster*!
Do yourself a favor and look at the USER interface of qmailadmin (put 
your own email address  password in vs. postmaster).


In the case of lists, if the user is a moderator of a list, the list 
options will be there for them, as well as the lists to which they moderate.
I'm not sure what shows up if you're just a list member -- I'll have to 
look into that! :-)


I've never looked into Mailman -- another thing to put on my QMT list... :-)

Dan McAllister


On 7/17/2013 11:56 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Dan's suggestion is indeed the simplest solution. I don't know to what 
degree qmailadmin can be used to manage list accounts though.


Some time ago though, I was frustrated by ezmlm's lack of a web 
interface for users to manage their list account. So I set up Mailman 
to work with QMT, and wrote up how to do it (because I would likely 
forget): http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mailman
Mailman is head and shoulders above any other FOSS list processing 
software out there, and is actively developed and maintained.


FWIW, I even went so far as to implement the web portion of Mailman on 
a separate host from the mail portion. That hasn't apparently been 
done very often (although it makes logical sense to me).


In the long run, I'd like to have mailman available as an alternative 
list processing package in QMT. I don't expect that to happen any time 
soon, but following the wiki directions above should get you a mailman 
setup running with QMT quite nicely in a reasonably short amount of time.


If there's anyone else out there running Mailman with QMT, I'd like to 
hear about your experience with it.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List

2012-06-15 Thread Eric Shubert

It's better to use spamdyke to do this (block and whitelist).
Spamdyke has much more flexibility.

If you don't have spamdyke installed yet, you should do so. It will be 
included in the stock QMT at some point.


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On 06/15/2012 10:01 AM, Mike Tirpak wrote:
I'm using the tcp.smtp file to block the ip range.  I just didn't want 
to open that range in the tcp.smtp file because of spam.


On 6/15/2012 12:57 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 06/15/2012 09:42 AM, Mike Tirpak wrote:
I did a lookup of the address and it seems to be coming from 
Germany.  I have had a lot of spam come from there so I just blocked 
the IP.  Is there a way to unblock it and still not get hammered 
with spam?


If you're blocking with spamdyke, simply whitelist the rdns 
mail.qmailtoaster.com.






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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List

2012-06-15 Thread Mike Tirpak
The thing I'm worried about is our mail server is used by our customers 
that want to send pages through our system.  There are hundreds of 
emails that get processed everyday and I can't get all of them into the 
whitelist.  The pages are very important to emergency services.  I don't 
want to inadvertently block a doctor from getting a page.


I was able to unblock the ip address and I am getting qmailtoaster 
emails now.  I had to just block around it.


On 6/15/2012 1:07 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

It's better to use spamdyke to do this (block and whitelist).
Spamdyke has much more flexibility.

If you don't have spamdyke installed yet, you should do so. It will be 
included in the stock QMT at some point.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List

2012-06-15 Thread Mike Tirpak

I will look into it.  Thanks for the help.

On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 06/15/2012 11:28 AM, Mike Tirpak wrote:

The thing I'm worried about is our mail server is used by our customers
that want to send pages through our system. There are hundreds of emails
that get processed everyday and I can't get all of them into the
whitelist. The pages are very important to emergency services. I don't
want to inadvertently block a doctor from getting a page.

I was able to unblock the ip address and I am getting qmailtoaster
emails now. I had to just block around it.

On 6/15/2012 1:07 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

It's better to use spamdyke to do this (block and whitelist).
Spamdyke has much more flexibility.

If you don't have spamdyke installed yet, you should do so. It will be
included in the stock QMT at some point.



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Like I said, spamdyke is very flexible. You can activate its rules a 
little at a time (gradually), and selectively as well. You can have 
separate rules by domain or even by user if need be.


Once size often does not fit all. You might want to whitelist 
recipient addresses that are for emergency services. There will most 
likely be very few if any cases beyond that which you would need to 
whitelist, providing you implement rules appropriate to your 
situation. The default configuration file is a good starting point, 
which will produce very few false positives.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list

2011-08-01 Thread Pak Ogah

On 07/31/11 22:09, Maxwell Smart wrote:

...
I had an opportunity to try out PoMMo in earnest last night and it 
works quite well.  Integration with qmail was painless since it uses 
php mailer.  It can also use Sendmail or relay.  It uses MySQL 
database for subscriber management and easily imports/exports .csv 
lists.  Subscriber update page managed, fields added and removed 
quickly and easily.  Templates (html or text) same story.


It would be nice if anybody that currently uses Mailman or EZMLM could 
install PoMMo and give some feedback on weakness' or strength of their 
preferred installation.


It seems to suit my needs perfectly, but I don't know any better...


once I setup PoMMo, I am a litte bit confuse setting up smtp server
and managing which user goes into what subscription, because PoMMo using 
tag for user to determine which subscription he's into.


I'll try PoMMo again later.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list

2011-07-31 Thread Maxwell Smart




On 07/28/2011 07:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 07/28/2011 10:57 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
I run a car club and need to send out newsletters. Would EZMLM be a 
good

fit for this? or is something like OpenEMM or PHPList a better fit.



I think ezmlm would fit fine. Personally, I prefer mailman (see wiki 
how to) for a nice gui interface. Mailman is probably overkill for a 
car club though.



On 07/30/2011 12:13 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:
I spent over an hour messing with mailman and almost had it set up 
and was reading about other lists and found Pommo.  It took about 3 
minutes to setup.  I'll let you know how it works.  Mailman may be 
powerful, but it's setup procedure sucks. 
I had an opportunity to try out PoMMo in earnest last night and it works 
quite well.  Integration with qmail was painless since it uses php 
mailer.  It can also use Sendmail or relay.  It uses MySQL database for 
subscriber management and easily imports/exports .csv lists.  Subscriber 
update page managed, fields added and removed quickly and easily.  
Templates (html or text) same story.


It would be nice if anybody that currently uses Mailman or EZMLM could 
install PoMMo and give some feedback on weakness' or strength of their 
preferred installation.


It seems to suit my needs perfectly, but I don't know any better...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list

2011-07-31 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr.



On 07/31/2011 08:09 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:




On 07/28/2011 07:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 07/28/2011 10:57 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
I run a car club and need to send out newsletters. Would EZMLM be a 
good

fit for this? or is something like OpenEMM or PHPList a better fit.



I think ezmlm would fit fine. Personally, I prefer mailman (see wiki 
how to) for a nice gui interface. Mailman is probably overkill for a 
car club though.



On 07/30/2011 12:13 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:
I spent over an hour messing with mailman and almost had it set up 
and was reading about other lists and found Pommo.  It took about 3 
minutes to setup.  I'll let you know how it works.  Mailman may be 
powerful, but it's setup procedure sucks. 
I had an opportunity to try out PoMMo in earnest last night and it 
works quite well.  Integration with qmail was painless since it uses 
php mailer.  It can also use Sendmail or relay.  It uses MySQL 
database for subscriber management and easily imports/exports .csv 
lists.  Subscriber update page managed, fields added and removed 
quickly and easily.  Templates (html or text) same story.


It would be nice if anybody that currently uses Mailman or EZMLM could 
install PoMMo and give some feedback on weakness' or strength of their 
preferred installation.


It seems to suit my needs perfectly, but I don't know any better...

I finished my install of Mailman.  I am not sure both programs do the 
same thing.  Mailman appears to be a mailing list like this one, where 
you can have conversations, where PoMMo appears to be a newsletter one 
way type.  Having not delved into Mailman too deeply yet, it may in 
fact accomplish that as well.  PoMMo is certainly suited perfectly for 
what I'm doing and may be more powerful than it appears at first 
glance.  It has some quirks that I would change or modify, but overall 
works fine.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list

2011-07-30 Thread Maxwell Smart
I spent over an hour messing with mailman and almost had it set up and 
was reading about other lists and found Pommo.  It took about 3 minutes 
to setup.  I'll let you know how it works.  Mailman may be powerful, but 
it's setup procedure sucks.


On 07/28/2011 07:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 07/28/2011 10:57 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

I run a car club and need to send out newsletters. Would EZMLM be a good
fit for this? or is something like OpenEMM or PHPList a better fit.



I think ezmlm would fit fine. Personally, I prefer mailman (see wiki 
how to) for a nice gui interface. Mailman is probably overkill for a 
car club though.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-19 Thread Scott Hughes
Pak,

Sorry, hit the send button accidentlly. If something needs to be edited, please 
feel free to edit it.

Thanks,
Scott




On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Pak Ogah pako...@pala.bo-tak.info wrote:

 Scott,
 when I check the wiki, it don't have the code. May I edit it?
 
 On 04/17/11 4:04, Scott Hughes wrote:
 
 Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):
 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 
 
 On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 
 On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote: 
 On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote: 
 I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a 
 lot 
 of help and am probably asking stupid questions 
 
 How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does 
 qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse 
 it? 
 Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but 
 I've hardly every used it...) 
 
 Mike 
 cmiiw 
 this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list 
 # cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/ 
 # rm -rf * 
 Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone would 
 like to use it. 
 
 #!/bin/sh 
 
  # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
  # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all 
  # users on system and then import it into an already created 
  # ezmlm mailing list. 
  # 
  # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
  # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list 
  # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah 
  # for the idea. 
 
  echo All user mailing list generation... 
 
  # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list 
  rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/* 
 
  # Generate mailing list import file 
  #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt 
 
  # Import List into ezmlm mailing list 
  ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
 name/list name 
 
 exit 0 
 
 
 Thanks, 
 Scott 
 
 
 
 


Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-19 Thread Scott Hughes
Pak,

I'm not sure what you mean since the script is therex



On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Pak Ogah pako...@pala.bo-tak.info wrote:

 Scott,
 when I check the wiki, it don't have the code. May I edit it?
 
 On 04/17/11 4:04, Scott Hughes wrote:
 
 Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):
 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 
 
 On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 
 On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote: 
 On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote: 
 I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a 
 lot 
 of help and am probably asking stupid questions 
 
 How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does 
 qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse 
 it? 
 Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but 
 I've hardly every used it...) 
 
 Mike 
 cmiiw 
 this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list 
 # cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/ 
 # rm -rf * 
 Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone would 
 like to use it. 
 
 #!/bin/sh 
 
  # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
  # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all 
  # users on system and then import it into an already created 
  # ezmlm mailing list. 
  # 
  # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
  # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list 
  # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah 
  # for the idea. 
 
  echo All user mailing list generation... 
 
  # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list 
  rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/* 
 
  # Generate mailing list import file 
  #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt 
 
  # Import List into ezmlm mailing list 
  ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
 name/list name 
 
 exit 0 
 
 
 Thanks, 
 Scott 
 
 
 
 


Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-18 Thread Pak Ogah

Scott,
when I check the wiki, it don't have the code. May I edit it?

On 04/17/11 4:04, Scott Hughes wrote:

Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time

Thanks,
Scott


On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm 
not a lot

of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and 
reuse it?
Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is 
gui, but

I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *
Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone 
would like to use it.


#!/bin/sh

 # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
 # users on system and then import it into an already created
 # ezmlm mailing list.
 #
 # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list
 # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah
 # for the idea.

 echo All user mailing list generation...

 # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list
 rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/*

 # Generate mailing list import file
 #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

 # Import List into ezmlm mailing list
 ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
name/list name


exit 0


Thanks,
Scott






Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Scott Hughes
I have not been able to find a way to automatically delete the mailing 
list in question. I did find a way to create a mailing list from the 
command line but of course without deleting it first that does no good.


I just manually deleted the mailing list using qmailadmin, re-created 
it, then let my script re-populate it.


Also, I've move the list-create script to cron.daily instead of 
cron.hourly.  No use taking up CPU cycles!


Thanks all!

Scott


On 4/15/11 3:22 PM, Michael J. Colvin wrote:

Why can't you have your script Rebuild the mailing list everytime it runs.
That way, it adds new accounts and purges old ones..???  There's got to be a
way to delete all of the address on the list, and then you can use your
script to repopulate it.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
on the mailing list.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
subscriptions.




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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Michael J. Colvin
I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a lot
of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse it?
Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but
I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:54 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

I have not been able to find a way to automatically delete the mailing 
list in question. I did find a way to create a mailing list from the 
command line but of course without deleting it first that does no good.

I just manually deleted the mailing list using qmailadmin, re-created 
it, then let my script re-populate it.

Also, I've move the list-create script to cron.daily instead of 
cron.hourly.  No use taking up CPU cycles!

Thanks all!

Scott


On 4/15/11 3:22 PM, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
 Why can't you have your script Rebuild the mailing list everytime it
runs.
 That way, it adds new accounts and purges old ones..???  There's got to be
a
 way to delete all of the address on the list, and then you can use your
 script to repopulate it.

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net]
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:18 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 Eric,

 I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It
didn't
 work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
 (looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
 location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

 Thanks,
 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the
server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott

 There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
 don't know how well that works or not though.

 I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
 on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
 subscriptions.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Pak Ogah

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:

I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a lot
of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse it?
Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but
I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Scott Hughes

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not 
a lot

of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and 
reuse it?

Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but
I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *

I'll lookin to that.  Thanks Pak.

Scott


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Scott Hughes

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not 
a lot

of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and 
reuse it?

Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but
I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *
Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone 
would like to use it.


#!/bin/sh

 # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
 # users on system and then import it into an already created
 # ezmlm mailing list.
 #
 # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list
 # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah
 # for the idea.

 echo All user mailing list generation...

 # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list
 rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/*

 # Generate mailing list import file
 #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

 # Import List into ezmlm mailing list
 ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
name/list name


exit 0


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Scott Hughes

Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time

Thanks,
Scott


On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not 
a lot

of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and 
reuse it?
Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, 
but

I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *
Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone 
would like to use it.


#!/bin/sh

 # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
 # users on system and then import it into an already created
 # ezmlm mailing list.
 #
 # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
 # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list
 # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah
 # for the idea.

 echo All user mailing list generation...

 # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list
 rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/*

 # Generate mailing list import file
 #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

 # Import List into ezmlm mailing list
 ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
name/list name


exit 0


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Michael J. Colvin
LOL!   That made my day!

 

Mike

 

From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:04 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you
_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time

Thanks,
Scott


On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: 

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote: 



On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote: 



I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a lot 
of help and am probably asking stupid questions 

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does 
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse it? 
Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but 
I've hardly every used it...) 

Mike 

cmiiw 
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list 
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/ 
# rm -rf * 

Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone would
like to use it. 

#!/bin/sh 

 # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes  mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net
sc...@renshawauto.net 
 # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all 
 # users on system and then import it into an already created 
 # ezmlm mailing list. 
 # 
 # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes  mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net
sc...@renshawauto.net 
 # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list 
 # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah 
 # for the idea. 

 echo All user mailing list generation... 

 # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list 
 rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/* 

 # Generate mailing list import file 
 #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt 

 # Import List into ezmlm mailing list 
 ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain
name/list name 

exit 0 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-16 Thread Scott Hughes

I hope it made his, too.

Scott


On 4/16/11 5:06 PM, Michael J. Colvin wrote:


LOL!   That made my day!

Mike

*From:*Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:04 PM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Just so Eric won't have to ask me (har har har):

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_set_up_a_mail_list_so_that_you_can_email_ALL_of_your_domains_at_one_time

Thanks,
Scott


On 4/16/11 3:49 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/16/11 1:55 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 04/17/11 0:16, Michael J. Colvin wrote:

I'm sorry...  I've never used the mailing list functions, so I'm not a 
lot

of help and am probably asking stupid questions

How is the mailing list Stored?  Flat file, cdb, MySQL?   How does
qmailadmin delete it?  IE, can you take code from qmailadmin and reuse 
it?

Or, maybe even call it from command line? (I know qmailadmin is gui, but
I've hardly every used it...)

Mike

cmiiw
this will forcefully deleted the subscriber from ezmlm-list
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/listname/subscribers/
# rm -rf *

Yep. That worked. Thanks Pak!  Here is the updated script if anyone 
would like to use it.


#!/bin/sh

 # 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net

 # Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
 # users on system and then import it into an already created
 # ezmlm mailing list.
 #
 # 04/16/2011 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net 
mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net

 # Added the complete removal of list subscribers before list
 # generation to take care of deleted accounts. Thanks to Pak Ogah
 # for the idea.

 echo All user mailing list generation...

 # Deleting current subscribers from mailing list
 rm -f /home/vpopmail/domains/domain name/list name/*

 # Generate mailing list import file
 #/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

 # Import List into ezmlm mailing list
 ~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain 
name/list name


exit 0


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Scott Hughes
Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I 
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains 
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or 
subscriptions.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Michael J. Colvin
Why can't you have your script Rebuild the mailing list everytime it runs.
That way, it adds new accounts and purges old ones..???  There's got to be a
way to delete all of the address on the list, and then you can use your
script to repopulate it.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I 
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains 
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or 
subscriptions.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Scott Hughes
Here is the shell script that I use for this. I have put the script in
/etc/cron.hourly/ so that it runs each hour.  That might be over-kill - once
a day would probably work.  I call it list-create:

#!/bin/sh

# 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
# Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
# users on system and then import it into an already created
# ezmlm mailing list.

echo All user mailing list generation...

# Generate mailing list import file
#/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

# Import List into ezmlm mailing list
~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain
name here/mailing list name here$

exit 0


I haven't found a way (yet) to delete the mailing list.

Thanks,
Scott


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From: Michael J. Colvin [mailto:mcol...@norcalisp.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:23 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Why can't you have your script Rebuild the mailing list everytime it runs.
That way, it adds new accounts and purges old ones..???  There's got to be a
way to delete all of the address on the list, and then you can use your
script to repopulate it.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I 
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains 
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or 
subscriptions.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Joel Eddy
VPOPBULL. I've used it on my old server I just retired. Worked well. But I
haven't tried it on my new Qmail Toaster.

I would imagine it should work tho.

 

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From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
subscriptions.

--
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Joel Eddy
I might be stretching a bit so if some one with more info or experience
please jump in.

 

If you go to qmailadmin on your server and before you log in click Admin
Guide you can

Get help for mailing lists there. 

 

 

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From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:37 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

Here is the shell script that I use for this. I have put the script in
/etc/cron.hourly/ so that it runs each hour.  That might be over-kill - once
a day would probably work.  I call it list-create:

#!/bin/sh

# 06/15/2010 - Scott Hughes sc...@renshawauto.net
# Initial creation of script to create an import text file of all
# users on system and then import it into an already created
# ezmlm mailing list.

echo All user mailing list generation...

# Generate mailing list import file
#/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V  ~/alluserslist.txt

# Import List into ezmlm mailing list
~vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -n -V | ezmlm-sub ~vpopmail/domains/domain
name here/mailing list name here$

exit 0


I haven't found a way (yet) to delete the mailing list.

Thanks,
Scott


-Original Message-
From: Michael J. Colvin [mailto:mcol...@norcalisp.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:23 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Why can't you have your script Rebuild the mailing list everytime it runs.
That way, it adds new accounts and purges old ones..???  There's got to be a
way to delete all of the address on the list, and then you can use your
script to repopulate it.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
subscriptions.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Joel Eddy
http:// IP or Domain name here/qmailadmin/images/help/index.html

See if this helps you.

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From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
subscriptions.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

2011-04-15 Thread Scott Hughes
Here is the documentation on VPOPBULL:

 

http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/doc/vpopbull.html

 

Thanks,

Scott

 

From: Joel Eddy [mailto:rje...@iowaconnect.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

VPOPBULL. I've used it on my old server I just retired. Worked well. But I
haven't tried it on my new Qmail Toaster.

I would imagine it should work tho.

 

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From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:18 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

 

Eric,

I looked at and tried the 'built-in' function and it was horrible. It didn't
work correctly at all.  I cannot currently find any documentation on it
(looking in the wiki).  If you (or anyone) happens to know the name and
location of said function, I'll gladly take a look at it.

Thanks,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:10 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Mailing List Question

On 04/15/2011 12:58 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:
 Is it possible to have the mailing list software that comes with QMT to
 automatically remove a subscriber if the email bounces back to the server?

 Example: I have created a script that runs once a day and gathers all of
 the email addresses of my domains and if they aren't already, subscribes
 them to a mailing list. This way if I need to email all users because
 of, say, a planned outage, all the email addresses are there. However,
 as people leave the company I delete their email account but they remain
 on the mailing list.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Scott


There's a function built in to send an email to everyone in a domain. I
don't know how well that works or not though.

I think I'd look at modifying that capability to do it for all domains
on the server. That way you shouldn't need to mess with ezmlm or
subscriptions.

--
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list bounces...

2010-01-17 Thread Jake Vickers

Eric Shubert wrote:

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi all,

Once in a while I get a message like this:



Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailing list.

I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at qmailtoaster-list-ow...@qmailtoaster.com.

Messages to you from the qmailtoaster-list mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.



The error my toaster gives back is this:

Remote host said: 554 DomainKeys verify status: bad format   (#5.3.0)

Now, I wonder if anyone else has this too? It looks like that either 
means people on this list write to the list with wrong domainkeys 
setup OR my toaster's domainkey setup is not doing something right?


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Martin





DomainKeys (DK) on QMT is broken.

On incoming messages, it errantly reports some messages as having 
invalid keys.


I used to think that the bugs only affected incoming messages, but 
recently I had some incoming messages rejected because DK was trying 
to sign them. How that happened I have no idea, but the messages were 
coming from, of all places, another QMT system! I haven't looked into 
this aspect in any detail yet.


The best thing to do imo is to disable domainkeys. There are posts in 
the archive and possibly the wiki on how to do that.


DKIM, on the other hand, is an entirely different animal. I haven't 
implemented this yet, but I'm sure Jake has something to say about DKIM.


And now, here's Jake!
:)



DKIM is a merger of domainkes and Identified Internet Mail. Supposed to 
be the best of both worlds.
I have a video on how to implement DKIM over on the video site. It is 
oly for outgoing, since Spamassassin scores incoming for Domainkeys and 
DKIM anyway, so I would suggest scoring them in there since you're 
running it anyway...


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list bounces...

2010-01-17 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 17.01.2010 um 08:52 schrieb Jake Vickers:
 
 DKIM is a merger of domainkes and Identified Internet Mail. Supposed to be 
 the best of both worlds.
 I have a video on how to implement DKIM over on the video site. It is oly for 
 outgoing, since Spamassassin scores incoming for Domainkeys and DKIM anyway, 
 so I would suggest scoring them in there since you're running it anyway...


I'll have a look at that. But I also just subscribed to this list with a 
googlemail address where the mails in question will hopefully arrive - that way 
I can try to find out what is wrong with the way it is now.
using dkim is no alternative insofar as I can't control who uses dk to sign 
emails that I receive and i prefer having the dk verification not done by 
spamassassin if possible. :-)
I guess if all else fails I will still have to disable verification in tcp.cdb 
and have spamassassin do it, though.

Thanks,

Martin
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: mailing list bounces...

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Zitat von Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net:





DomainKeys (DK) on QMT is broken.

On incoming messages, it errantly reports some messages as having  
invalid keys.


I used to think that the bugs only affected incoming messages, but  
recently I had some incoming messages rejected because DK was trying  
to sign them. How that happened I have no idea, but the messages  
were coming from, of all places, another QMT system! I haven't  
looked into this aspect in any detail yet.


The best thing to do imo is to disable domainkeys. There are posts  
in the archive and possibly the wiki on how to do that.


DKIM, on the other hand, is an entirely different animal. I haven't  
implemented this yet, but I'm sure Jake has something to say about  
DKIM.


And now, here's Jake!
:)


:-)

Thanks for the info. Does signing work reliably, though? I would not  
like to disable this altogether.
Also, would enablin the spamassassin domainkey check be an alternative  
to having simscan/qmailq do it?


Thanks,

Martin


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