Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi,

I tried to contact Qt Sales twice now about packaging/publishing the
custom text editor under GPL, without getting any answers so far.
Below is the e-mail I sent to the service. Any feedback is really
welcome.

-Ilyes

>>>

Hi,

I'm a software engineer and Open Source contributor. I've been looking
for a good code and text editor on Linux, that would answer my needs
and I had already a prior experience working with the awesome Qt
Creator, and I thought what if I could make the text/code editing
component into a standalone program, so that I could use for my every
day to day editing and coding activities?

I just did that and actually got the program to a stable point and
made it available on:

http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/code-editor

Now, I'd like to publish the program under GPL and package it for a
distribution to make it available to the masses, and I would like to
know if that's possible, and the kind of obligations that I have to
satisfy, in order to do so.

Following are my questions, for which I would like to get your clear
answers and opinions:

1. Is it possible to release my derivative program under GPL? The said
program is a cut down version of Qt Creator and some few changes in
the code to make it a standalone text and code editor. I intend to use
exclusively the GPL license.

2. If yes, it there any naming constraints that I should follow?

3. If yes, can I reuse the art (.png files) located under
src/plugins/coreplugin/images? These include pixmaps and icons for the
menus, toolbar, etc.

4. If yes, do I have to create my own logo for the program?

5. If yes, do I have to include any special mention in the "About" dialog?

I had a discussion on Qt Creator's mailing-list, at
http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-October/thread.html#7863
, thread "[Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor
:)", where I got the word to contact you guys, Qt Sales, for such an
inquiry.

Thanks for the awesome Qt! I'm looking forward to hear from you soon!

Thanks,

-Ilyes

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Ilyes Gouta  wrote:
> Thanks Adam!
>
>> I can tell you this right up front: You can't use "Qt" in the name.
>> It's trademarked, which means you need permission to use it as part of
>> the name; the text of the LGPL makes this clear.
>
> I totally agree! OK. That was one major point in my request.
>
>> If you read the LGPL (which Creator is distributed under), you will
>> also find that yes, you can distribute your modified version under the
>> LGPL or under the GPL; you can't use any license besides those.
>
> I'd go for GPL actually.
>
>> Generally I've found that Qt Sales is the appropriate department to
>> direct these kinds of questions to and they'll forward them on to
>> Legal, but I think that you can get all of your answers if you just
>> read the text of the license.
>
> Alright. I'd wait for other comments and feedback and then proceed to
> contact Qt Sales. Thanks for the reference!
>
> -Ilyes
>
>> /s/ Adam
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Ilyes Gouta  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>>>
>>> I can't afford one, even have access to.
>>>
>>> However, I'd *really* like to have the opinion of Nokia's employees
>>> and QtCreator's developers about these items:
>>>
>>> 1. Is it - at all possible - to distribute this reduced form of Qt
>>> Creator? In this case, exclusively in an open source form.
>>> 2. If yes, do I have to rename it? Any suggestions are welcome :) I'd
>>> need to do so in order to insure a proper installation on the user's
>>> machine (so that files from different packages don't get overwritten).
>>> 3. Is it possible to get an official confirmation from a Nokia
>>> representative? Is there any procedure?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Ilyes
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Andre Poenitz
>>>  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
>>>>> http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
>>>>> system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
>>>>> CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> To Qt Creator d

Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Thanks Adam!

> I can tell you this right up front: You can't use "Qt" in the name.
> It's trademarked, which means you need permission to use it as part of
> the name; the text of the LGPL makes this clear.

I totally agree! OK. That was one major point in my request.

> If you read the LGPL (which Creator is distributed under), you will
> also find that yes, you can distribute your modified version under the
> LGPL or under the GPL; you can't use any license besides those.

I'd go for GPL actually.

> Generally I've found that Qt Sales is the appropriate department to
> direct these kinds of questions to and they'll forward them on to
> Legal, but I think that you can get all of your answers if you just
> read the text of the license.

Alright. I'd wait for other comments and feedback and then proceed to
contact Qt Sales. Thanks for the reference!

-Ilyes

> /s/ Adam
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Ilyes Gouta  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>>
>> I can't afford one, even have access to.
>>
>> However, I'd *really* like to have the opinion of Nokia's employees
>> and QtCreator's developers about these items:
>>
>> 1. Is it - at all possible - to distribute this reduced form of Qt
>> Creator? In this case, exclusively in an open source form.
>> 2. If yes, do I have to rename it? Any suggestions are welcome :) I'd
>> need to do so in order to insure a proper installation on the user's
>> machine (so that files from different packages don't get overwritten).
>> 3. Is it possible to get an official confirmation from a Nokia
>> representative? Is there any procedure?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Ilyes
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Andre Poenitz
>>  wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 Hi,

 I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
 http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor

 So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
 system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
 CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.

 To Qt Creator developers: is it OK to name this editor qt-editor?
>>>
>>> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>>>
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Coda Highland]

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, I just read licenses.

I can tell you this right up front: You can't use "Qt" in the name.
It's trademarked, which means you need permission to use it as part of
the name; the text of the LGPL makes this clear.

If you read the LGPL (which Creator is distributed under), you will
also find that yes, you can distribute your modified version under the
LGPL or under the GPL; you can't use any license besides those.

Generally I've found that Qt Sales is the appropriate department to
direct these kinds of questions to and they'll forward them on to
Legal, but I think that you can get all of your answers if you just
read the text of the license.

/s/ Adam

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Ilyes Gouta  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>
> I can't afford one, even have access to.
>
> However, I'd *really* like to have the opinion of Nokia's employees
> and QtCreator's developers about these items:
>
> 1. Is it - at all possible - to distribute this reduced form of Qt
> Creator? In this case, exclusively in an open source form.
> 2. If yes, do I have to rename it? Any suggestions are welcome :) I'd
> need to do so in order to insure a proper installation on the user's
> machine (so that files from different packages don't get overwritten).
> 3. Is it possible to get an official confirmation from a Nokia
> representative? Is there any procedure?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Ilyes
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Andre Poenitz
>  wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
>>> http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor
>>>
>>> So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
>>> system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
>>> CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.
>>>
>>> To Qt Creator developers: is it OK to name this editor qt-editor?
>>
>> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>>
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi,

> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.

I can't afford one, even have access to.

However, I'd *really* like to have the opinion of Nokia's employees
and QtCreator's developers about these items:

1. Is it - at all possible - to distribute this reduced form of Qt
Creator? In this case, exclusively in an open source form.
2. If yes, do I have to rename it? Any suggestions are welcome :) I'd
need to do so in order to insure a proper installation on the user's
machine (so that files from different packages don't get overwritten).
3. Is it possible to get an official confirmation from a Nokia
representative? Is there any procedure?

Thanks!

-Ilyes

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Andre Poenitz
 wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
>> http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor
>>
>> So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
>> system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
>> CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.
>>
>> To Qt Creator developers: is it OK to name this editor qt-editor?
>
> For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.
>
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
> http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor
> 
> So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
> system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
> CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.
> 
> To Qt Creator developers: is it OK to name this editor qt-editor?

For the legal aspect you should ask a lawyer.

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi,

I finally found some time and implemented that idea. Code lives on
http://qt.gitorious.org/~ilyesgouta/qt-creator/qt-editor

So far, the changes actually are disabling some portions in the build
system (all the non needed plugins and supporting code) and modifying
CppTools to not depend on ProjectExplorer and SearchSymbol, etc.

To Qt Creator developers: is it OK to name this editor qt-editor? I'm
also thinking about just Editor.

I also intend to package this for Fedora. The tree include a .spec
file to just do that. Is there any restrictions that I should be aware
of?

Thank you guys for the nicely designed, awesome QtCreator!

-Ilyes

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Bill King  wrote:
> On 07/30/2010 07:14 PM, Hunger Tobias (Nokia-MS/Berlin) wrote:
>> On 30.07.2010 10:57, ext Danny Price wrote:
>>
>>> TextMate is a very heavy-weight product. Ideally this Creator 'Lite'
>>> would just be a text editor with syntax highlighting (it doesn't really
>>> need auto-completion).
>>>
>> Arent there lots of lightwight text editors with syntax highlighting
>> available already? Why add another one? To me creator shines since it
>> understands the code I write. So some simple regular expression based
>> syntax highlighting is not enough.
>>
>> Of course you can just take the C++ engine build into creator (just
>> include cplusplus.pri into your project, it is meant to be reusable) and
>> build a more light weight editor. Of course for the engine to work
>> properly you need to provide it with information like which other files
>> are there, where to look for files to include, etc. ... basically all
>> the stuff that makes a project:-)
>>
>>
>>> Most importantly, it must launch really fast. The
>>> recent releases of Creator have started to become rather sluggish on
>>> startup; VisualStudio 2008 actually launches faster on my machine now
>>> than Creator which isn't good.
>>>
>> Where does it take so much time? It feels pretty fast for me (less that
>> 3s). I did have trouble with sluggish startup for a while on windows
>> though. Turned out that my proxy setup in windows was to blame. Windows
>> insisted on figuring out by waiting for a timeout that I do not need a
>> proxy (automatic proxy configuration)... and it insisted on blocking
>> while doing this:-/
>>
>>
> I've seen this too, and have tracked it down as far as I can tell to the
> plugin loading at startup. For example, mine takes up to 10 seconds to
> load on a 4 core, 4Gb memory, 3GHz machine.
> I'll try and get some more concrete figures when I get some time. If we
> can either async, or deferred load the plugins, then I think we'll see a
> great speedup in startup.
>
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Bill King]

On 07/30/2010 07:14 PM, Hunger Tobias (Nokia-MS/Berlin) wrote:
> On 30.07.2010 10:57, ext Danny Price wrote:
>
>> TextMate is a very heavy-weight product. Ideally this Creator 'Lite'
>> would just be a text editor with syntax highlighting (it doesn't really
>> need auto-completion).
>>  
> Arent there lots of lightwight text editors with syntax highlighting
> available already? Why add another one? To me creator shines since it
> understands the code I write. So some simple regular expression based
> syntax highlighting is not enough.
>
> Of course you can just take the C++ engine build into creator (just
> include cplusplus.pri into your project, it is meant to be reusable) and
> build a more light weight editor. Of course for the engine to work
> properly you need to provide it with information like which other files
> are there, where to look for files to include, etc. ... basically all
> the stuff that makes a project:-)
>
>
>> Most importantly, it must launch really fast. The
>> recent releases of Creator have started to become rather sluggish on
>> startup; VisualStudio 2008 actually launches faster on my machine now
>> than Creator which isn't good.
>>  
> Where does it take so much time? It feels pretty fast for me (less that
> 3s). I did have trouble with sluggish startup for a while on windows
> though. Turned out that my proxy setup in windows was to blame. Windows
> insisted on figuring out by waiting for a timeout that I do not need a
> proxy (automatic proxy configuration)... and it insisted on blocking
> while doing this:-/
>
>
I've seen this too, and have tracked it down as far as I can tell to the 
plugin loading at startup. For example, mine takes up to 10 seconds to 
load on a 4 core, 4Gb memory, 3GHz machine.
I'll try and get some more concrete figures when I get some time. If we 
can either async, or deferred load the plugins, then I think we'll see a 
great speedup in startup.

-- 
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Qt Development Frameworks, Nokia Pty Ltd
Brisbane Office

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Tobias Hunger]

On 30.07.2010 14:36, ext Danny Price wrote:
> I'll start Creator from the Start menu in Windows (or the dock on my Mac
> at home for that matter) and it can take up 10s to actually appear. I
> suspect it might be something to do with loading content from the web
> and both machines are on entirely different networks with good net
> connections.

There actually is the "-profile" option which can be used to find out 
which plugin takes so long to initialize. I am not sure that this is 
available in a release build though. Maybe you could provide the output 
if you happen to have a debug build around? That would give some hint as 
to what might be delaying things.

It *should* not be the network. All the network related code is 
non-blocking (with the one exception of automatic proxy detection in 
windows, see http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-10106).

Best Regards,
Tobias

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Kris Wong]

> I'll start Creator from the Start menu in Windows (or the dock on my Mac at 
> home for that matter) and it can take > up 10s to actually appear. I suspect 
> it might be something to do with loading content from the web and both
> machines are on entirely different networks with good net connections.

I can confirm the slow startup on windows. It loads quite fast on linux, 
however.

Kris Wong

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Danny Price]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Tobias Hunger wrote:

> On 30.07.2010 10:57, ext Danny Price wrote:
> > TextMate is a very heavy-weight product. Ideally this Creator 'Lite'
> > would just be a text editor with syntax highlighting (it doesn't really
> > need auto-completion).
>
> Arent there lots of lightwight text editors with syntax highlighting
> available already?


Few that are cross platform and none that I know about that aren't ugly as
sin and/or are as slow as a snail (Java).

Why add another one? To me creator shines since it
> understands the code I write. So some simple regular expression based
> syntax highlighting is not enough.
>

That's exactly why it would be good :)

>
> Of course you can just take the C++ engine build into creator (just
> include cplusplus.pri into your project, it is meant to be reusable) and
> build a more light weight editor. Of course for the engine to work
> properly you need to provide it with information like which other files
> are there, where to look for files to include, etc. ... basically all
> the stuff that makes a project:-)
>
> > Most importantly, it must launch really fast. The
> > recent releases of Creator have started to become rather sluggish on
> > startup; VisualStudio 2008 actually launches faster on my machine now
> > than Creator which isn't good.
>
> Where does it take so much time? It feels pretty fast for me (less that
> 3s). I did have trouble with sluggish startup for a while on windows
> though. Turned out that my proxy setup in windows was to blame. Windows
> insisted on figuring out by waiting for a timeout that I do not need a
> proxy (automatic proxy configuration)... and it insisted on blocking
> while doing this:-/
>

I'll start Creator from the Start menu in Windows (or the dock on my Mac at
home for that matter) and it can take up 10s to actually appear. I suspect
it might be something to do with loading content from the web and both
machines are on entirely different networks with good net connections.



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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Tobias Hunger]

On 30.07.2010 10:57, ext Danny Price wrote:
> TextMate is a very heavy-weight product. Ideally this Creator 'Lite'
> would just be a text editor with syntax highlighting (it doesn't really
> need auto-completion).

Arent there lots of lightwight text editors with syntax highlighting 
available already? Why add another one? To me creator shines since it 
understands the code I write. So some simple regular expression based 
syntax highlighting is not enough.

Of course you can just take the C++ engine build into creator (just 
include cplusplus.pri into your project, it is meant to be reusable) and 
build a more light weight editor. Of course for the engine to work 
properly you need to provide it with information like which other files 
are there, where to look for files to include, etc. ... basically all 
the stuff that makes a project:-)

> Most importantly, it must launch really fast. The
> recent releases of Creator have started to become rather sluggish on
> startup; VisualStudio 2008 actually launches faster on my machine now
> than Creator which isn't good.

Where does it take so much time? It feels pretty fast for me (less that 
3s). I did have trouble with sluggish startup for a while on windows 
though. Turned out that my proxy setup in windows was to blame. Windows 
insisted on figuring out by waiting for a timeout that I do not need a 
proxy (automatic proxy configuration)... and it insisted on blocking 
while doing this:-/

-- 
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Software Engineer
Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Danny Price]

At first I thought this was a silly request given that Creator is already
fairly lightweight but now that I've thought about it, a standalone text
editor would be really useful. I often have to edit .pro files outside of
creator when setting up projects and for that I use Notepad or TextEdit.

TextMate is a very heavy-weight product. Ideally this Creator 'Lite' would
just be a text editor with syntax highlighting (it doesn't really need
auto-completion). Most importantly, it must launch really fast. The recent
releases of Creator have started to become rather sluggish on startup;
VisualStudio 2008 actually launches faster on my machine now than Creator
which isn't good.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Ilyes Gouta  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
> consistent?
>
> How much effort would that require?
>
> Thanks,
> Ilyes Gouta
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Liam Staskawicz]

On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Carsten Breuer wrote:
> I'm playing with the idea to strip creator as a front end for
> OpenOcd (gdb remote server for ARM microcontrollers) as an debugger.
> Since some nokia phones also run with ARM processors, there could
> be a way to fork an Nokia mobile SDK here. Not sure yet.

I've had this idea as well, but haven't found the time to dig into it.  Would 
love to see something like this, though!

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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Carsten Breuer]

Hi Ilyes,

> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
> consistent?

AFAIK as i know, editors are build in creator as plugins (try
help->plugins). So it should be pretty easy to do this.

I'm playing with the idea to strip creator as a front end for
OpenOcd (gdb remote server for ARM microcontrollers) as an debugger.
Since some nokia phones also run with ARM processors, there could
be a way to fork an Nokia mobile SDK here. Not sure yet.


Best Regards,



Carsten


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> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi Nathan,

I just finished reading the rest of the discussion, and yes I just
kept wishing if some action was going-on, while reading those
responses.

It would be really cool if QtCreator's code was/is written to make it
easier to perform such a refactoring for such purposes. I'm going to
have a look on the code, nevertheless.

Regards,
Ilyes Gouta

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Carter, Nathan  wrote:
>
> Ilyes,
>
> I think you just read the one message to which Robert linked.  However it was 
> the first in a thread.  Read the others to see where the discussion led.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>> Is there a way to transform the robust QtCreator IDE into a "light" Text
>>> Editor with the Code Completion and syntax Highlight?
>>
>> Yes, exactly! That would be wonderful. So, what's the outcome? Is
>> there any fork or project on-going?
>>
>> -Ilyes Gouta
>>
>> 2010/7/29 Robert Löhning :
>>> Am 29.07.2010 18:54, schrieb ext Ilyes Gouta:
 Hi,

 Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
 a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
 consistent?

 How much effort would that require?

 Thanks,
 Ilyes Gouta
>>>
>>> Hi Ilyes,
>>>
>>> we already discussed this last month:
>>> http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-June/007116.html
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Robert
>>>
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Carter, Nathan]

Ilyes,

I think you just read the one message to which Robert linked.  However it was 
the first in a thread.  Read the others to see where the discussion led.

Nathan


On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> 
>> Is there a way to transform the robust QtCreator IDE into a "light" Text
>> Editor with the Code Completion and syntax Highlight?
> 
> Yes, exactly! That would be wonderful. So, what's the outcome? Is
> there any fork or project on-going?
> 
> -Ilyes Gouta
> 
> 2010/7/29 Robert Löhning :
>> Am 29.07.2010 18:54, schrieb ext Ilyes Gouta:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
>>> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
>>> consistent?
>>> 
>>> How much effort would that require?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ilyes Gouta
>> 
>> Hi Ilyes,
>> 
>> we already discussed this last month:
>> http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-June/007116.html
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>> 
>> --
>> Robert Löhning
>> Software Engineer
>> Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
>> 
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Jeffery MacEachern]

You might also consider poking at KDevelop4's text editor component.

 - Jeffery MacEachern



2010/7/29 Robert Löhning :
> Am 29.07.2010 18:54, schrieb ext Ilyes Gouta:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
>> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
>> consistent?
>>
>> How much effort would that require?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ilyes Gouta
>
> Hi Ilyes,
>
> we already discussed this last month:
> http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-June/007116.html
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Löhning
> Software Engineer
> Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
>
> Qt Developer Days 2010 | Registration NOW Open!
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi Robert,

> Is there a way to transform the robust QtCreator IDE into a "light" Text
> Editor with the Code Completion and syntax Highlight?

Yes, exactly! That would be wonderful. So, what's the outcome? Is
there any fork or project on-going?

-Ilyes Gouta

2010/7/29 Robert Löhning :
> Am 29.07.2010 18:54, schrieb ext Ilyes Gouta:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
>> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
>> consistent?
>>
>> How much effort would that require?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ilyes Gouta
>
> Hi Ilyes,
>
> we already discussed this last month:
> http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-June/007116.html
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Löhning
> Software Engineer
> Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
>
> Qt Developer Days 2010 | Registration NOW Open!
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Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Robert Löhning]

Am 29.07.2010 18:54, schrieb ext Ilyes Gouta:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
> a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
> consistent?
>
> How much effort would that require?
>
> Thanks,
> Ilyes Gouta

Hi Ilyes,

we already discussed this last month:
http://lists.trolltech.com/pipermail/qt-creator/2010-June/007116.html

Regards,
Robert

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[Qt-creator] QtCreator's {source editor}-based text editor :)

[Ilyes Gouta]

Hi,

Is it possible to pull out QtCreator's source code editor and make it
a stand alone text editor? Something like TextMate, beautiful, raw yet
consistent?

How much effort would that require?

Thanks,
Ilyes Gouta
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