Re: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain
I have bad shoulder pain from clicking the mouse and computer work as well as pushing all those years. Ortho diagnosed arthritis. Massage tx. was great and really helped. I try not to take drugs for pain. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:01 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain Hi, In the past 8 months I've been have BAD shoulder pain. I'm going to my rehab doc this Friday to discuss this problem. Do you guys have shoulder pain? Right now I'm taking propoxt methocarbamol for pain, but it is barley touching the pain. Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain
My left shoulder has been killing me.what is massage tx ? thanks , Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain
In a message dated 11/21/2005 10:05:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is massage tx ? "tx" is shorthand for therapy. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
Re: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain
Oh, ok Thanks Bill...I thought It might be therapy or a cream of some type. Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] shoulder pain
Often the shoulder blades and collarbone feels like it is broken, long after the spine has healed. I believe that it is due to a nerve harness that comes over the shoulders and crisscrosses over the chest, down to the diaphragm. These the muscles have a bad habit of spasming causing that pain. Most anyone in massage training can work those muscles. It takes some time. Chemicals help, like mint, hot pepper rub and some of the store preps along with infra-red heat, to loosen those muscles. Just make sure that they have some idea of what they are doing. Too much pressure early on is not good. Check out your yellow pages for massage schools in your hood and offer to be a subject. You never know... Best Wishes W In a message dated 11/21/05 9:05:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My left shoulder has been killing me.what is massage tx ? thanks , Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] Neck ROM
I heard that Tim I can barely lookat someone to my right I have to back up and turn my chair or they think I'm being rudeignoring them. It's funny but people still don't remember after 6 years. I have a question to ask, I very seldom stay in a spot for more than 1 minute at a time I'm constantly rolling around. Do people ask you to sit still? Mark ---Original Message--- From: Tim Syfert Date: 11/20/05 17:33:31 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Neck ROM I had my neck fused at the time of my surgery and it left me with terrible left-right range of motion. Tim Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: [QUAD-L] Pain
I describe the burning in my arms likelaying your arms on the hood of a black truckon a hot sunny day in August. I'm with you pins needles are a good day. Mark ---Original Message--- From: ~LittleQuad~ Date: 11/20/05 13:10:39 To: Corie Jones; Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain i tend to describe my pain as if someone is dragging me down an asphalt road with no clothes on and setting me on fire if i have a day of just pins and needles it's a good day... i don't take any pain meds as they don't help at allCorie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's okay Lori... I do seem to have more pain than most people (with SCI) I talk to or read about on here andon the Care/Cure site. Just to clarify for every one why she thinks that, is that I have severe cold needles burning in my whole abdominal area and back and have severe hot burning and needles in my butt, in between my legs, and down to my knees. Plus, I have tendinitis and bursitis in both my shoulders which causes some pain. The nerve pain is basically from my injury level down. And like Lori said, I have tried everything from medication to nerve blocks and nothing has helped. I recently had a baclofen pump put in and that has been a whole other story, but I am waiting to add pain medication to the pump. So no Lori, I'm calling my doctor Monday to find out if the medication (a local anesthetic, numbing medication) has arrived at the chronic pain clinic I go to (I've been waiting for two week! s for the medication). I'm praying this will be what I've been searching for for pain relief for nearly 12 years. As Lori mentioned, my nerves are shot and I recently went on Klonopin to help with the stress of it all.CorieC4-5, incomplete, 12 yrs.postRedding, CA - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: Quad Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain Ok, how bout I say the member here that "I know personally by dozens of personal emails"has severe pain that has nearly sent her out of her mind for the last 7 yrs or so. Sorry Corie ... you can say it the best. And I shouldn't have said anything. I hope by now that you've had more (or THE)pain med added to your pump to see if it can give you any relief. I'm soon going to wise up like you Corie and you others I know who have chosen to lurk more than post. Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/19/05 14:00:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain In a message dated 11/18/2005 2:38:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The member here with the most pain is Corie Jones. She's tried almost everything for her awful pain. Now Lori, not to start a bunch of s. here but how can you say she is the member with the worst pain? No one can measure another's pain no matter how they tell you 'what they feel or what they're going through'. For the record, I've tried almost everything too even steroid injections. Diane
RE: UPDATE RE: [QUAD-L] adaptive Art stuff
Title: Message Great Im glad you found the painting info. Mike~ www.MurGallery.com -Original Message- From: Cameron Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:26 PM To: 'Murach' Subject: UPDATE RE: [QUAD-L] adaptive Art stuff Mike I found the prices and sizes regards, Cameron -Original Message- From: Murach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] adaptive Art stuff Bobbie, A great way to do it is with the Program Painter9. That is how I do it. Mike www.MurGallery.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:05 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] adaptive Art stuff Hi, I'm looking into doing drawing with colored pencil and pastel. Dose anybody know of a web site that has adaptive equipment for quads who want to draw or paint? Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] Brien
Hi Ron, I've used Valium for almost 30 years for spasms, and haven't found it to bea problem causing weight gain. It doesn't look like Medicare will be covering it with their Plan D program, so I'm not sure what I'll be doing after Jan. 01, 2006. I'll belooking at other med options but may end-up continue using it and paying for it out-of-pocket. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with the quality of life aspect. A person in our situation must take what medications he/she needs to be able to go on with life and face each day. Walking individuals cant understand these thoughts. Anyway I take lorezapam as needed (about 2-3 pills a day). This somehow knocks down the pain from the syrinx I have, and calms a person down as well. Upon investigating many medication on net it says drugs like valium and lorezapam do not induce weight gain which is good. Three hundred pound quads arent very productive, lol. I have a new theory I ask myself often.if I walked tomorrow would I be proud of the past 8 years of facing my adversityI answer myself with yes at this point Ron c7 Going on 8 yrs post 29 years old from St. Louis Rolled a Geo Tracker convert Ended my short career asa Police Officer.
Re: [QUAD-L] About valium
Hi Mark, That Herb is a great guy! ;-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herb helps meespecially sleeping. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/18/05 16:08:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About valium All valium did for me was make me fall asleep during conversations, movies, work etc. I take baclafen and smoke a little herbal stuff, if you know what I mean. Greg c4-1991 In a message dated 11/18/2005 3:14:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I take lorezapam twice a day, 1mg tablet. This helps me somewhat, I have always been kinda scared of valium, never tried it. Are most quadstaking valium for spasms, pain or both? ron c7.about 8 yrs post
RE: [QUAD-L] FUSION- who has had their neck fused
Yesextremely limited! Ever since my syringomyelia symptoms came I get pain from trying to force my head to turn a bit (for company, etc). Feels like it "pulls" my whole cord with a painful "strain" feeling that takes awhile to go away. Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: Steve Oldaker Date: 11/20/05 13:35:25 To: 'Lori Michaelson'; 'Quad' Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] FUSION- who has had their neck fused Lori... Is your neck's range of motion significantly limited by the fusion of 5 vertebrae? Any pain issues? Steve From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:17 PMTo: QuadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] FUSION- who has had their neck fused I was too critical immediately post-injury so was in traction in ICU for 3 months before they fused my neck. Fused me good! C2-C7! Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/20/05 08:29:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] FUSION- who has had their neck fused Fusion, is a common protocol when a SCI exists.The difference between the fusion procedures are the materials used and where the point of entry is made. Any 1st year med student could successfully perform this procedure, but best left to those who are specialist. There is some partial mobility lost with a fusion, but it reduces pressure on the spine and helps reduce the swelling associated with a spinal cord injury. Fusions, are normal performed as soon as physically possible, after the injury to stabilize the spine. Years post fusion is a mystery to me.But I understand the reason Best Wishes W
Re: [QUAD-L] valium
Hi Bill, I'm with you with my concerns about the effects of long term narcoticuse, butdo have some Codeinein my safe that I have access to if needed. If I have to get it out of my safe to use it, it makes me think more about using a narcoticand its effects onmy body and quality of life before I use it. I believe the decision to use a drug, or herb,is an individual choice best left to each person to make on their own. Whatever works must be the right choice. :-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/19/2005 7:06:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hydracodone Hydracodone is vicadin. May I ask: Aren't any of you who take such heavy narcotics worried about the effects of long-term use? They can seriously impair judgement, resflexes, bowel function and liver and kidney function. I'm not being judgemental. I took vicadin and other drugs for years. I kicked them after some bowel trouble and both legs being amputated due to diminished circulation caused by drug use. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicare Plan D
Formulary Finder for Prescription Drug Plans This tool will allow you to find plans in your state that match your required drug list. http://formularyfinder.medicare.gov/formularyfinder/selectstate.asp At 12:49 PM 11/21/2005, Julie A Napper wrote: Hi David, Is there a way to find out what meds will or will not be covered under Medicare's Plan D program? I'm on Medicaid my case manger told me today that Plan D is what I'll be switched to Jan. 1st. She said that I'll pay $1.00 per prescription for generic and $3.00 for non-generic. Has anyone heard this also? Julie c 4-5 Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] Brien
have you ever tried to stop taking Valium? I've been taking it for about 10 years for spasms, does the job well, it worked a lot better than baclofen for me. Only downside, if I miss a dose the withdrawal effects start pretty quick and are very unpleasant. Don't know what I would do if Medicaid stopped paying for it.On 11/21/05, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ron, I've used Valium for almost 30 years for spasms, and haven't found it to bea problem causing weight gain. It doesn't look like Medicare will be covering it with their Plan D program, so I'm not sure what I'll be doing after Jan. 01, 2006. I'll belooking at other med options but may end-up continue using it and paying for it out-of-pocket. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA
Re: [QUAD-L] who has had their neck fused
Because it is a non invasive procedure, some chiropractors are doing it. But as always... know your doctor or your chiropractor. Chiropractors, are trained and taught to manipulate the spinal to relieve pain and discomfort. However, in various states you will see or hear of Chiropractors: Perform health nutrition therapy. Performing colon irrigation Performing acupuncture Selling aspirin Reading exrays So again, know thy doctor and what they are board certified to do. Best Wishes W In a message dated 11/21/05 4:11:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have a couple of chiropractors here in town that have started offering to do spinal decompression therapy at their office. I've always wondered how much training they have to be able to do this procedure, but I would think they must be permitted to do it by the state or they wouldn't be advertising to do it.
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicare Plan D
Hi Julie, Check the Medicare Home Page at: http://www.medicare.gov/ Click on"Formulary Finder" on the first Page. This tool will allow you to find plans in your state that match your required drug list. There arePlans for different states so you can find a Plan for AZ by lookingunderthe "Compare Medicare Prescription Drug Plans." With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Julie A Napper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David,Is there a way to find out what meds will or will not be covered underMedicare's Plan D program? I'm on Medicaid my case manger told me todaythat Plan D is what I'll be switched to Jan. 1st. She said that I'll pay$1.00 per prescription for generic and $3.00 for non-generic. Has anyoneheard this also?Julie c 4-5Tucson, AZOn Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) "David K. Kelmer"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: Hi Ron, I've used Valium for almost 30 years for spasms, and haven't found it to be a problem causing weight gain. It doesn't look like Medicare will be covering it with their Plan D program, so I'm not sure what I'll be doing after Jan. 01, 2006. I'll be looking at other med options but may end-up continue using it and paying for it &! gt; out-of-pocket. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post Texas, USA RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I agree with the quality of life aspect. A person in our situation must take what medications he/she needs to be able to go on with life and face each day. Walking individuals cant understand these thoughts. Anyway I take lorezapam as needed (about 2-3 pills a day). This somehow knocks down the pain from the syrinx I have, and calms a person down as well. Upon investigating many medication on net it says drugs like valium and lorezapam do not induce weight gain which is good. Three hundred pound quads arent very productive, lol. I have a new theory I ask myself often.if I walked tomorrow would I be proud of the past 8 years of facing my adversity...! .I answer myself with yes at this point Ron c7 Going on 8 yrs post 29 years old from St. Louis Rolled a Geo Tracker convert Ended my short career as a Police Officer.
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicare Plan D
Hi Julie, I'm sorry but I didn't see that you were on Medicaid until I sent the Medicare Link. You should have received the info from the stateon what Plan theywill be using so you won't have to search for a Plan, but the Formulary Finder will allow you to see what meds a Plan will cover. http://www.medicare.gov/ Good luck and stay strong. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Julie A Napper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Is there a way to find out what meds will or will not be covered under Medicare's Plan D program? I'm on Medicaid my case manger told me today that Plan D is what I'll be switched to Jan. 1st. She said that I'll pay $1.00 per prescription for generic and $3.00 for non-generic. Has Hi David,Is there a way to find out what meds will or will not be covered underMedicare's Plan D program? I'm on Medicaid my case manger told me todaythat Plan D is what I'll be switched to Jan. 1st. She said that I'll pay$1.00 per prescription for generic and $3.00 for non-generic. Has anyoneheard this also?Julie c 4-5Tucson, AZ On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) "David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: Hi Ron,I've used Valium for almost 30 years for spasms, and haven't foundit to be a problem causing weight gain. It doesn't look like Medicare will be covering it with their Plan D program, so I'm notsure what I'll be doing after Jan. 01, 2006. I'll be looking at other med options but may end-up continue using it and paying for it out-of-pocket. With Love,CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post Texas, USA RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I agree with the quality of life aspect. A person in our situationmust take what medications he/she needs to be able to go on with life and face each day. Walking individuals cant understand these thoughts. Anyway I take lorezapam as needed (about 2-3 pills a day). This somehow knocks down the pain from the syrinx I have, and calms a person down as well. Upon investigating many medication on net it says drugs like valium and lorezapam do not induce weight gain which is good. Three hundred pound quads arent very productive, lol. I have a new theory I ask myself often.if I walked tomorrow would I be proud of the past 8 years of facing my adversityI answer myself with yes at this point Ron c7 Going on 8 yrs post 29 years old from St. Louis Rolled a Geo Tracker convert ! t; Ended my short career as a Police Officer.
Re: [QUAD-L] Pain
Have or do any of you folks take methadone? It seems to have an effect on cutting nerve pain that many of the other hydro or oxy narcotics. The stigma attached to methadone does not apply to somebody in chronic pain. The benefit to methadone is that it is not as spacey as the other narcotics. happeethanxgiving Brien
Re: [QUAD-L] Brien
In a message dated 11/21/2005 2:17:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll belooking at other med options but may end-up continue using it and paying for it out-of-pocket. Hi Dave, When I was paying for my meds, valium was about $7.00 for a 30 day supply for 1 a day. Diane
Re: [QUAD-L] Neck ROM
No, never had anyone tell me that. I'm always having to turn my chair too to talk to someone. TimQuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that Tim I can barely lookat someone to my right I have to back up and turn my chair or they think I'm being rudeignoring them. It's funny but people still don't remember after 6 years.I have a question to ask, I very seldom stay in a spot for more than 1 ! minute at a time I'm constantly rolling around. Do people ask you to sit still?Mark---Original Message--- From: Tim Syfert Date: 11/20/05 17:33:31 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Neck ROMI had my neck fused at the time of my surgery and it left me with terrible left-right range of motion.Tim Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
[QUAD-L] optometrist visits
I remember the optometrist's chair being awkward to transfer to the last time I went for a visit. How do you all handle the eye doctor? Is there a chain that generally has easy to transfer to seats? Do some of them not require that you transfer to a seat? It's been a while for me. -k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine.-Henry Miller
