Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[John S.]

Dan, I avoided taking any narcotic drugs for years while I worked. By 2000 my 
deforming was becoming really noticeable. I was regularly going to have spurs 
ground off. I lean dramatically to the right. I was overdoing tylenol and advil 
when the doctor gave me hydrocodone. I'd be shaking and drenched in sweat and 
one vicodin ended all that in about ten minutes.
As time passed I started needing more. I take as much as 8 5/500's a day and 
some days 4 10mg's of valium. The valium works well when I'm having anxiety 
attacks that usually preceed AD. Since they modified my chair to straighten me 
out, the doctor easily realized I needed oxycodone. I rarely take more than one 
a day but I can take two and just wednesday I had to. My lower back felt like 
it was on fire. These are feelings I haven't really had since becoming a quad. 
I knew my body was in pain by the sweating and AD. The high blood pressure was 
becoming serious a couple years ago when I started taking atenelol to control 
it. 
If I'm layed on my sides for just a few minutes it will cause me to have 
seizures with dramatic blood pressures and irregular heartbeat. My hips no 
longer have any cartiledge and my pelvis never healed real well after my 
accident. 
This makes the idea of removing spurs from my spine real iffy. I can't not lay 
on my back and laying on my belly was ruled out while getting x-rays. I don't 
remember what happened but I came to in the ER and intibated (sp?). I was upset 
because I had a DNR on file. if I lay completely flat on my back I have trouble 
breathing, so I'm running out of positions.
My doctor understands that I just want to be comfortable and able to get in my 
chair as long as poossible.  
If your syrinx is moving upward and your losing function they may decide to 
treat it. 
If your suffering with more pain then I'd suggest taking more hydrocodone. At 
some point it will no longer work. You will need a stronger med. Use them as 
you must but never OD on them. (that is just 3)
I really wish you the best. I know that I'd have done a lot of things 
differently if I knew it was going to become this painful. I've had a DNR for 3 
years now. I expect it to be respected the next time. I'm not suicidal. I just 
feel I've been through enough and I too often the pain isn't treatable.
We are all different and feel differently about this matter. 
I hope your pain isn't like what I feel.
I take them everyday and I'm sure I'm addicted to them all. There is no guilt 
to me. I never get what people call a buzz. It is just what I need to do to 
live.
I hope that is some help to you. I don't expect everyone to agree with my 
choices. 

I wish you the very best with your pain,
john
 
- Original Message 
From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:09:05 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A 
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED 
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,, DO 
YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M WORRIED THAT 
MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
  THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.   
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE

  

  

-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

#AOLMsgPart_2_eb00fc08-7e68-42ee-8cd8-9648abf4af62 DIV {margin:0px;}  I 
have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years
 I tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up 
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. 
They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my 
life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
  I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
  I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
  My doctor doesn't want to prescribe
 anything and seems to feel that it may simply be normal for me to sleep a few 
hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic 
appliances in my chair that

Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Lori Michaelson]

I am in chronic pain all the time as well.  Like Corie Jones (a list member)
we can't find anything that is of real help.  I have run the gamut of
narcotics, tens units, heating pads, etc..  I was on OxyContin since late
1998 or early 1999 until January of last year when my insurance company
stopped paying for it.  Which was just as well as I do not think it was
helping.  It was terrible getting off of it but I finally did and then
noticed not much of a difference so I was right.  Strangely enough though...
the narcotics seem to help with the spasms more than any other drug for
spasms.

Anyway, Vicodin is just a hydrocodone with Tylenol.  Hydrocodone Bitartrate
and Acetaminophen = Vicodin.  Oxycodone is it much different from
hydrocodone either.  My husband just had some surgery and the doctor gave
him Vicodin him for pain.  He took it right after surgery but it just made
him drowsy which allowed him to sleep through the pain.  Since then he began
to take ibuprofen (Advil) every four hours instead.  But the pain got worse
again today so you broke down and took a couple of Vicodin which is allowing
him to sleep at least.

In sum, I am glad that I am off the narcotics for the most part and I just
learn to live with the pain.  Keeping busy is the only thing that helps
along with sleeping.  By the time I have warmed up* really good* in bed
before sleep ... I put an ice gel pack on my back which freezes the pain
there and allows me to sleep.  I am still on amitriptyline at bedtime for
sleep as well.

And the wonderful warmth of the Southwest Sun helps me immensely!  It is
sunny and 72° here today.


Lori Michaelson
Age - 43
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR
> AND A HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW
> I NEED SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS
> THIS,,, DO YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME???
> I'M WORRIED THAT MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.*
> *THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO
> ANSWER.   DAN H.*
>

RE: [QUAD-L] Dragon Dictate question

[Danny Espinoza]

I use a Plantronics microphone that I bought after... you should be able to
use any microphone with the program, I personally like Plantronics the best

 

Danny Espinoza 25/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

 

http://secureminds.us/

http://www.myspace.com/dannylnx

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:51 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Dragon Dictate question

 

Hello all dragon people,
I just got my Dragon dictate up and running.  I am enjoying
it very much as a matter of fact, I am using it right now to write this
e-mail.  The headset seems to be a bit tight and I was wondering if any of
you had any solutions to loosening up the tightness of the headset. I have
tried stretching it and stretching it ever so gently with a bit of force.
I'm very tempted to hold it over an open flame so that I can melt the
plastic of the headset so it would be more pliable.  But first I thought I
would ask you guys.
Thanks in advance, Bobbie   



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RE: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Danny Espinoza]

I don't have a regular sleep schedule either... I found that I'm awake for
about 36 - 40 hours then sleep for about five or six hours then start over
again.. I'm sure it's not healthy for me I'm not really sure why like that..
I tried Lunesta but it didn't have much effect on me. 

Danny Espinoza 25/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

 

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From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:05 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

 

I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of
pneumonia and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able
to get off oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a
time and often it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I
tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on
it. They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light
up my life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem
to stop.

I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies
as the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 

I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 

My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair,
I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are
twisting and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.

Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?

  

I wish all of you the best,

john

- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN

I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and
turn it back on.

If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.

 

 

Mark Jackson 

   RollinOn

 

 

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From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.

Quadius

 

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Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
it was.

 

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RE: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Mark Jackson]

Yes
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


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From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP


JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,,
DO YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M
WORRIED THAT MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has)
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE



-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP


I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of
pneumonia and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able
to get off oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a
time and often it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I
tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on
it. They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light
up my life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem
to stop.
I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies
as the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair,
I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are
twisting and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?
  
I wish all of you the best,
john


- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN


I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and
turn it back on.
If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
 
 

Mark Jackson 
   RollinOn
 

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From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.
Quadius


On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
it was.
 
Dana 

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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Danny Hearn]

JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A 
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED 
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,, DO 
YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M WORRIED THAT 
MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
  THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.   
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE

  

  

-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

 #AOLMsgPart_2_eb00fc08-7e68-42ee-8cd8-9648abf4af62 DIV {margin:0px;}   
I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
  I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
  I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
  My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
  Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?

  I wish all of you the best,
  john


  - Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN

  I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.
  If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
   
   
  Mark Jackson 
 RollinOn
   




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  From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


  
  It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.
  Quadius


  On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric blanket. 
 I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it was.
   
  Dana 

  
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Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[Lori Michaelson]

Same here although it happened much more frequently when I lived in the
Northeast.  So I absolutely love it here in the Southwest!  I still can't go
to sleep without my head covered with the least that sheet.  That is
something that I have always needed since my accident 28 1/2 years ago.

Lori Michaelson
Age - 43
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ



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>  I guess it is the quad thing to be freezing when you go to bed, as I am
> also .
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RE: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[Mark Jackson]

I was also watching the news and found out that we are spending halk a
billion dollars a week on guess what? Gasoline to power our Army that
defends Iraq by Iraq.
The part that really pissed me off was that the Iraqi people only pay around
$1.25 a gallon but they charge the good ol USA over $3.00 a gallon!
I'm tired of this War, I say pull them out immediately because some things
you'll never change.
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


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From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:27 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.


Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that said we are
spending 5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war. In
addition to that ---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars
a Minute JUST FOR THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our government
cut back for a while and PAY down some on that defecit so a large part of
our tax money don't go to DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we ran OUR
households in this way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really sad the
shape we are getting into- We all must balance our checkbooks or be
homeless Do any of you think or worry about our future with the
needless pork and waste our congress keeps approving???  I know I do.
Dan H. 


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RE: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[Mark Jackson]

If America was a company we'd fire the CEO!
It's not just the Iraq war, do you know how much money each year on the War
on drugs?
It's close to a 20 billion dollar budget a year spent on drug control. 
They're doing a great job too, drugs are more readily available and cheaper
than ever!
Before we went to war in Afghanistan Heroin was barely heard of there but
since then they are now selling 80% of all Heroin in the world.
Sounds kind of fishy to me, but the war on drugs sounds very profitable on
both sides now.
Did you know that marijuana is now the leading cash crop in America?
 
I better stop I could on and on about this crap!
You should watch a movie called "Cocaine Cowboys" and see how the government
really fights the war on drugs.
 
Niether the war in Iraq or the war on drugs are what they said they were for
and anyone that says they are have fallen for the bait.
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


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From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:27 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.


Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that said we are
spending 5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war. In
addition to that ---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars
a Minute JUST FOR THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our government
cut back for a while and PAY down some on that defecit so a large part of
our tax money don't go to DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we ran OUR
households in this way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really sad the
shape we are getting into- We all must balance our checkbooks or be
homeless Do any of you think or worry about our future with the
needless pork and waste our congress keeps approving???  I know I do.
Dan H. 


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Re: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[oconnelldb]

 Speaking of money? the recent write-down by Citibank of 12 Billion is an 
effort to clear off junk from their balance sheets so they can get back to 
"banking business" stuff.? Their balance sheet has a total of 2.2 Trillion 
dollars on it so 12 billion represents 1/2 of one percent of their balance 
sheet.? So far we are approaching the 500 Billion dollar mark of money spent on 
the Iraqi war in the past 6 years.? Pretty amazing numbers huh?.? 


 AZDAVE



 

-Original Message-
From: Tod E. Santee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:41 am
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.










Hey Danny!

>From what I understand the typical "pork barrel" spending (i.e. earmarks) are 
>a 
miniscule part of Congressional spending.  The majority of it is currently war 
spending and regular budgeting that's been necessary for running our 
country--which includes all the interest we paid to other countries to which 
were in debt.

As for what we spend in Iraq, I understand we spend the same amount there in 3 
weeks as we've spent in all six years in Afghanistan, a country that really was 
involved in 9/11.

(I love talking politics and I've been surprised not to see much of it here.  
It 
used to get quite heated when I was here before.)

Best regards,
Tod
 Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that said we are 
spending 5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war. In addition 
to that ---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars a Minute 
JUST 
FOR THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our government cut back for a 
while 
and PAY down some on that defecit so a large part of our tax money don't go to 
DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we ran OUR households in this 
way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really sad the shape we are getting 
into- We all must balance our checkbooks or be homeless Do any 
of you think or worry about our future with the needless pork and waste our 
congress keeps approving???  I know I do.   
 
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[QUAD-L] Dragon Dictate question

[Bobbie299]

Hello all dragon people,
I just got my Dragon dictate up and running.  I am enjoying it very much as a 
matter of fact, I am using it right now to write this e-mail.  The headset 
seems to be a bit tight and I was wondering if any of you had any solutions to 
loosening up the tightness of the headset. I have tried stretching it and 
stretching it ever so gently with a bit of force.  I'm very tempted to hold it 
over 
an open flame so that I can melt the plastic of the headset so it would be 
more pliable.  But first I thought I would ask you guys.
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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[oconnelldb]

 All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.? She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE


 


 

-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP











I?have had problems sleeping since 1995.?I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than?2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.


I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 


I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 


My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are?twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.


Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?


??


I wish all of you the best,


john




- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN



I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.


If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.


?


?






Mark Jackson 


?? RollinOn


?









From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN







It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.? I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.? Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.


Quadius




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Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric 
blanket.? I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it 
was.


?


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Re: [QUAD-L] Am idol

[wheelchair]

It was only aired on Fox Network, but everything is traced by to the  
production company that owns everything... 19 Entertainment.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/11/2008 12:25:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Basically the premise of my blog is that if Fox, news Corp., were really  
concerned about giving money to charity they would not have been showing paid  
commercials during Tuesday night's broadcast.  I have searched throughout  the 
Internet to determine if the proceeds from the advertisements were turned  back 
in to Idol gives back, but so far haven't been able to find  anything.  If 
someone does, please let me know before I put my foot in my  mouth. 
Enough of my drivel, I better get going.
Take care  everyone,
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Re: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[wheelchair]

We have become a debit nation.  It won't change tomorrow or the next  day 
either.  Ten years from now we as a nation will still be paying for our  
actions 
of yesterday... and then some.  Your elected officials have spoken  for you 
and your future and the future of your children.
When you read that in some areas of the USA, only 25 to less than 50% of  
those who start high school ... will finish it.  10 years from now we will  
have 
a population with nose rings and tatts and  lead around like  a herd of 
elephants.  And the world will be happy.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/11/2008 1:27:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that  said we are 
spending 5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war.  In addition 
to 
that ---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars  a Minute JUST 
FOR THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our  government cut back for a 
while and PAY down some on that defecit so a large  part of our tax money don't 
go to DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we  ran OUR households in this 
way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really  sad the shape we are getting 
into- We all must balance our checkbooks  or be homeless Do any 
of you think or worry about our future with the  needless pork and waste our 
congress keeps approving???  I know I  do. 
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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[John S.]

I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?
  
I wish all of you the best,
john


- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN


I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.
If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
 
 
Mark Jackson 
   RollinOn
 




From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.
Quadius



On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric blanket. 
 I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it was.
 
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[QUAD-L] heating blankets

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Hey gang,
  I used heating blanketsfor a couple years until I had an incident with them. 
Apparenty I rolled a little to my side one night and the blanket got between my 
kneeswell it burned both knees badly had blisters all over them. From 
then on I just used a very thick comforter. To me the risk of a heating blanket 
when you cant feel is to high.
   
  ron c7  

[QUAD-L] choices reimbursement for Dec 07

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Sandy,
  I received the 74.47 today in the mail for the reimbursement for the 
supplies. Thanks for all your help.
   
  Ron Pracht

Re: [QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[Tod E. Santee]

Hey Danny!

>From what I understand the typical "pork barrel" spending (i.e. earmarks) are 
>a miniscule part of Congressional spending.  The majority of it is currently 
>war spending and regular budgeting that's been necessary for running our 
>country--which includes all the interest we paid to other countries to which 
>were in debt.

As for what we spend in Iraq, I understand we spend the same amount there in 3 
weeks as we've spent in all six years in Afghanistan, a country that really was 
involved in 9/11.

(I love talking politics and I've been surprised not to see much of it here.  
It used to get quite heated when I was here before.)

Best regards,
Tod
 Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that said we are 
> spending 5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war. In 
> addition to that ---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars a 
> Minute JUST FOR THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our government cut 
> back for a while and PAY down some on that defecit so a large part of our tax 
> money don't go to DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we ran OUR households 
> in this way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really sad the shape we 
> are getting into- We all must balance our checkbooks or be 
> homeless Do any of you think or worry about our future with the 
> needless pork and waste our congress keeps approving???  I know I do. 
>Dan H. 

[QUAD-L] America's Defecit and Also the IRAQ war cost.

[Danny Hearn]

Hey  everyone, I was watching some program last night that said we are spending 
5,000 dollars every second 7 days a week on the IRAQ war. In addition to that 
---the American defecit is costing about a Million Dollars a Minute JUST FOR 
THE INTEREST PAYMENT ONLY !Why can't our government cut back for a while 
and PAY down some on that defecit so a large part of our tax money don't go to 
DEFECIT INTEREST payments ??  Man if we ran OUR households in this 
way-we would all be bankrupt. It's really sad the shape we are getting 
into- We all must balance our checkbooks or be homeless Do any 
of you think or worry about our future with the needless pork and waste our 
congress keeps approving???  I know I do.   
 Dan H. 

RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[Mark Jackson]

I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and
turn it back on.
If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
 
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


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From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN



It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.

Quadius



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Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
it was.
 
Dana 

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Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA

[Danny Hearn]

Hi  Dana,  I take amitriptyline  to sleep, at first they start you on 10mg but 
can move it up to 50mg or more if needed. Some say it leaves them a bit groggy 
in the mornings but that don't last long.   On some days I skip that and 
instead take Ambien,,, I think by changing some nights it keeps their effect 
working better.

  Dan H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I went to my sleep doctor and I was told that they are very slow to put 
drugs on the market for sleeping problems and they have been waiting for a 
another new drug for quite some time.  They had to increase my trazodone to 100 
mg , and it could go up as high as 200 although it can go higher, but my 
doctor, who is in charge does not do.  I had to have a nurse practitioner, 
because she was too busy to get me in on my six month appointment.  I had 
called the week before to tell her that it was not working the dose at 50 mg.  
There drugs and then decided to take the off take me off all of them so I asked 
for her. so I went for a while I first I had to go to another doctor in her 
practice, because she was booked, he tried beyond about three different 
medications and the know what to do, so he took me off everything, so I called 
my rehab doctor and he gave me trazodone.  I went for a period of time without  
much sleep, while trying the three different medications, while
 with him until I got back on the trazodone.  When I finally got into her, she 
added the ambien, which helped for a while.  Has anybody ever tried that 
combination together.  That what is working for you.  I want to write all these 
down to let her know the next time what others try.  I'm glad they will add by 
a phone call, as she is difficult to get into. 
   
  I hope to hear from some of you with the same problem, and how you handle. I 
know I have asked this before but it was on my laptop that crashed several 
months ago, and I lost everything.  I had not backed up everything.
Thank you.
Dana
   
  I really appreciate hearing everyone's experiences about MRSA as I was not 
familiar with any of this.
you.
Dana
   
  
In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
   I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed.
   
In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Pretty soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything.  That is why they 
are calling it the superbug.
  Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
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Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[KK]

I have the 3rd degree burn scars on my stomach to prove it.  This was a heating 
pad
& I hear they make them with timers that automatically turn it off.  

Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[Quadius]

It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.

Quadius


On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Janet.
> I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
> blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
> it was.
>
> Dana
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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] the show today on Dr. Phil about super bug scare

[Quadius]

You were reading my mind John and that's scary.
Quadius

On 4/10/08, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  my problem has been finding real colloidal silver. I found a place online
> that gives the truth about it. It also lists brands that are real and their
> quality.
> http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
> They have a list of the brand names tested and which ones are real.
> Some of it is harmless water. Some of it is dangerous. Fortunately, some
> can really work.
>
> john
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:41:17 PM
> Subject: RE: FW: [QUAD-L] the show today on Dr. Phil about super bug scare
>
> I've been taking Colloidal Silver for about 2 weeks and I got rid of a
> nasty uti in about 4 days but felt better after the second day.
> Just so you know I will be taking it in the future.
>
> Very pleased,
>
> Mark Jackson
> 501-840-2291
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:29 PM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* FW: FW: [QUAD-L] the show today on Dr. Phil about super bug
> scare
>
>
>
> Either the Colloidal Silver or UTI Clear has cleaned 2 UTI's.  Will let
> you know if it clears my MRSA outbreak.
>
>
>
> Merrill
>
>
>   --
>
> *From:* Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:27 PM
> *To:* Merrill Burghardt
> *Subject:* Re: FW: [QUAD-L] the show today on Dr. Phil about super bug
> scare
>
>
>
> Merrill,
> I had read some stuff on here about that particular product, but I haven't
> really checked into it yet.  This particular news article was being talked
> about on the news the other night.  The reason it came to my attention is
> because the active ingredient in the fake cure for AIDS was Colloidal
> Silver,
>
> even though they didn't mention it in the news article.
>
> I am really wondering if it works.
> Quadius
>
> http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/apr/02/st-pete-police-man-sold-elixir-he-claimed-cured-ai/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   "have always believed that when something is going wrong with my body or
> life, that there must be something I can do, not do, or buy.  I drank around
> $200.00 worth of Colloidal Silver several months back which I boasted to
> have been successful.  Perhaps it was."
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] supra swimming

[Quadius]

The advice I was given was to avoid public swimming pools, but that was
about 10 years ago.
Quadius

On 4/10/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Hi, I used to love river float trips and did those after being a quad in
> the 1st 3 years---but after that time I got a supra-pubic and some said the
> river water getting in there might cause an infection-I am not sure, and
> my last urologist had no idea on that subject. I have not  been swimming or
> on float trips in over 7 years, I sure miss that. I was thinking. as
> often as i get UTI's anyway's-- it may not hurt to try it.*
> *
> Dan H. *
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] dangers

[Quadius]

I carry a small bag on the back of my chair to hold water and other
essentials.  Anything that I consider valuable or of absolute importance by
Kerry and two small pouches on the sides of my chair, just under my arms.
That way if someone's trying to get into them I know about it.

The bell is a good idea, but it would probably drive me crazy.  Too many
rough roads, and sidewalks.  My wheelchair has enough noise is already.  :-)
Quadius

Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA

[DAANOO]

 
I went to my sleep doctor and I was told that they are very slow to  put 
drugs on the market for sleeping problems and they have been waiting  for a 
another new drug for quite some time.  They had to increase my  trazodone to 
100 mg 
, and it could go up as high as 200 although it can go  higher, but my doctor, 
who is in charge does not do.  I had to have a nurse  practitioner, because 
she was too busy to get me in on my six month  appointment.  I had called the 
week before to tell her that it was not  working the dose at 50 mg.  There 
drugs and then decided to take the off  take me off all of them so I asked for 
her. so I went for a while I first I had  to go to another doctor in her 
practice, because she was booked, he tried beyond  about three different 
medications 
and the know what to do, so he took me off  everything, so I called my rehab 
doctor and he gave me trazodone.  I went  for a period of time without  much 
sleep, while trying the three different  medications, while with him until I 
got 
back on the trazodone.  When I  finally got into her, she added the ambien, 
which helped for a while.  Has  anybody ever tried that combination together.  
That what is working for  you.  I want to write all these down to let her know 
the next time what  others try.  I'm glad they will add by a phone call, as 
she is difficult to  get into. 
 
I hope to hear from some of you with the same problem, and how you handle.  I 
know I have asked this before but it was on my laptop that crashed several  
months ago, and I lost everything.  I had not backed up  everything.
Thank you.
Dana
 
I really appreciate hearing everyone's experiences about MRSA as I was not  
familiar with any of this.
you.
Dana
 

In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed.
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pretty  soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything.  That is why they 
are  calling it the superbug.  

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg,  FL
Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my  clothes.





 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Am idol

[Quadius]

Actually wheelchair, you have hit on one of the primary reasons there is so
many impoverished people in this country.  Keep in mind I'm excluding the
severely disabled community from the comment, for right now.  I don't know
the exact stats, but I heard that the true rates of graduation from high
school are much lower than people realize.

For instance, here in Florida they do not count the dropouts when they are
touting their graduation percentage.  It's an absolute travesty.  It's
something were done to reform the education system properly in this country,
we would have a lot less problems.  There are, however, many other social
factors which play into the graduation disgrace in this country.  I am not a
sociologist, nor do I pretend to be, but there are several programs which
could be expanded and better funded to help end the cycle of poverty.

I am in the process of writing a blog about Idol Gives Back, but I'd like to
make it a little more factual than I have so far.

Basically the premise of my blog is that if Fox, news Corp., were really
concerned about giving money to charity they would not have been showing
paid commercials during Tuesday night's broadcast.  I have searched
throughout the Internet to determine if the proceeds from the advertisements
were turned back in to Idol gives back, but so far haven't been able to find
anything.  If someone does, please let me know before I put my foot in my
mouth.

Enough of my drivel, I better get going.
Take care everyone,
Quadius


On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Not to hi-jack your thread but I read this week the high school
> graduation in Chicago is 60%. Graduation rate in Indianapolis is less than
> 50%.  Detroit is the worse with 25%  That kind of information hurts my heart
> and soul.  I'm sure that you and all will agree that an ignorant population
> is easily lead down a path to a Rose Garden.
> Best Wishes
> W
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA

[MikeyBird3]

I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed.
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pretty  soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything.  That is why they 
are  calling it the superbug.  

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg,  FL
Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my  clothes.





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Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[DAANOO]

 
I guess it is the quad thing to be  freezing when you go to bed, as I am also 
.
Dana


  
 
 
I used to 'love' my elec blanket when I slept alone.  now I just  shiver to 
sleep and wake up warm.
AZDAVE
 
 
In a message dated 4/8/2008 7:51:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I find when I  lay down that the blood in my legs maybe much colder than my 
body temperature.  When I lay down all that cold blood pumps through my body 
and makes me freeze  for a couple hours. If I use my electric blanket for 30 
minutes or so makes a  world of difference!  I live in Florida and still get  
cold! 
Janet 
C -6  -1964 
- Original Message 
From:  Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 2:42:10 PM
Subject:  FW: [QUAD-L] PAIN 
 
Forgot to  mention.  Every night when I lie down my body seems fine for about 
30  minutes.  Regardless how warm it is, I will be shivering while under a  
mountain of blankets.  I will continue to shiver for several hours until  
falling asleep around 4:00am. 
I feel this might  have something to do with urinating but no idea what as I 
have a  supra-pubic.  A similar period was experienced years ago but included  
AD.  A deposit in my penis removed resolved this for  years. 
Merrill 
 
 
  

 









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Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

[DAANOO]

I guess it is the quad thing to be freezing when you go to bed, as I am  also 
.
Dana



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