[QUAD-L] Fw(5): Regina Fuller

[Regina Fuller]

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[Regina Fuller]

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Re: [QUAD-L] SP Cath size

[Regina Fuller]

My Doctor did the same thing I have a 24fr almost 13 yrs now with 5cc balloon. 
He said the same thing it will help with less sediment and I also use silicone 
since allergic to latex ones. Like Quadius said maybe go to a bigger balloon. 
Since you don't want to a bigger catheter. Regina


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  On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:   
My Doc. Put me on a 24 French, way back in the beginning and been on it since I 
got the supra-pubic over 15 years ago...this size will allow sediment through 
easier, I never have a problem, good luck Greg---Dan H*** 


On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 5:07 PM, greg  wrote:
 

 Those with a SP cath, 
what size do you use? After how many years? For about 15 years I used a 16F, 
but it started leaking around the cath itself, through the incision. So I 
changed to a 18F. But after only a few years, it's leaking again. Only at 
night. No idea why. Not blocked, not plugged, no junk in it, no sweating. In 
the morning everything is wet, night bag 1/4 full. So it's draing some, but not 
backing up causing AD or anything. I don't want to keep going up in size. How 
often do you go up in size? Thanks, Greg

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad

[Regina Fuller]

I know we all became a quad in different ways. None of us asked for it, but I 
think we've all have made the most of it. I believe there is a God, who saved 
me from a life that was going downward fast. My accident was diving off a pier 
into a lake I had been drinking. I drowned, I coded 3 times when got to the 
hospital, had so many infections becuz of the water they kept tellin my mom I 
wasnt going to make it thru the nite they told her this every nite. After a 
month they finally operated on my neck but couldnt tell me how much movement I 
would have but I came thru n I'm a c6-7. To me this was a second chance to do 
something more and was able to raise my daughter again becuz she was 9 I was 28 
I had to go to a nursing home after I got out of TIRR, but with the help from 
people from this list and God I went to a disabilty apartment and got my 
daughter back when she was 14. Shes now 22 and gave me 2 grandkids. I also have 
a wonderful man in my life and we
 have a house and 4 dogs, I'm closer to my family too. So even though Im in a 
chair and I have trials that we all go thru as quads. I thank God Im alive and 
I have this chance. Also my daughter told me that she doesnt know how I do it 
being a quad she said she didnt think she could I told her you never know what 
you can do until it happens to you and that means anything people go through. 
We all get frustrated, depressed and every other feeling, but We are all here 
for a reason and I for one am glad y'all are here for the great advice for the 
friendships for the knowledge and the questions. I thank God for all the people 
on this list and I pray each of us gets our dreams and wishes answered.
Gina

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Re: [QUAD-L] suprapubic

[Regina Fuller]

Ive had a suprapubic for about 10 yrs now went from latex to silicone even 
found a silione catheter thats as flexible as latex since found out I was 
allergic to the latex. I get mine changed every 3 wks if I wait for 4 wks I 
have bad spasms n some AD. I also take a pain pill before I go so my body is 
more relaxed. 
I use a legbag during the day and bedbag at nite. I usually just rinse them 
good with hot water, but lately been gettin alot of uti's so been rinsing them 
with vinegar n hot water. Also if I get clogged I use vinegar n water to 
irrigate. 
Also talk with your urologist get him to work with you how often you should get 
it changed like if 4 wks is to long go for 3 wks see if its better also maybe 
take a pain pill or maybe some baclofen before you get it changed. Also since 
youve just had it done your body is just getting use to a foreign object in a 
different place and everyones different and some peoples body might have a 
harder time excepting it.
Gina

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[QUAD-L] medical question

[Regina Fuller]

Hi Y'all,
Okay broke my neck back in July 99 had my c5 bone replaced with a bit of hip 
bone. Just went to a Pain Management Dr. that found my L1  2 are going bad 
from sitting since our bodies r not made to sit for as long as we do.  They 
found arthritis in both spots too. (bones are breaking down) so the phantom 
pain (pins n needles) are getting in tolerable (sometimes). So the Dr. has 
tried me on neourtin but didnt really help then tried cybalta but it helped but 
side effects werent worth it now he tried me on lyrica but omg it makes me 
neauseous, dizzy n makes me pass out. He told me if the lyrica doesnt work 
their gonna go into my back DONT want that.
Now to question:
Have any of y'all tried anything that I havent or your Dr has tried on you that 
I can suggest to my Dr? 
I tolerate quit abit of pain but it can be intolerable sometimes. Just thought 
I could see if any of y'all might know of anything.
Thank y'all, 
Gina

Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to 
their limitations again.

Re: [QUAD-L] Low Protein, etc.

[Regina Fuller]

Back when I was in the nursing home and had pressure sores they had me on this 
drink dont remember the name but it had exra protein n other stuff that helped 
promote healing, I'll try to find out the name and get back with you.
Gina

Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to 
their limitations again.

--- On Wed, 4/4/12, Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: Greg g...@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Low Protein, etc.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2012, 6:15 PM






I have a wound next to my tailbone that just will not fill in. I just had my 
protein checked and even though I’ve increased it in my diet, it is still lower 
than it was when it was low. So now I have low protein, low blood count, and 
low testosterone. I take a max dose of testosterone pumps and it’s barely 
raising. My body is just not adsorbing this stuff, natural or in extra 
supplements. Yet another doc appointment to try and figure it out. Greg  

Re: [QUAD-L] favor

[Regina Fuller]

I hope your surgery goes good and I'd be glad to pray for you.
You'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
Tell us how it goes as soon as you can.
Gina


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Re: [QUAD-L] Holiday Season

[Regina Fuller]

I know Christmas can be hard, but remember how teenagers are and just keep 
makin her till shes 18 its your right :) and at least you did get your tree up. 
I was worried to whod put my tree up but my daughter asked if she could do it 
but she loves christmas and couldnt really do it at her place shes 21 w/kids 
now too. Just dont give up on christmas next year, because this year was lil 
frustrating it'll get better just keep your holiday spirit and itll all turn 
out good and it will get addictive. Have a blessed day and a Merry Ghristmas
Gina

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Re: [QUAD-L] Happy Thanksgiving!

[Regina Fuller]

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Hope its a good one.
Gina


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[QUAD-L] Has anyone wondered

[Regina Fuller]

I've been wonderin, since Ive been hurt Ive run across friends that have made a 
difference in my life and in others that make a difference in their lives then 
are takin away, but I'm still here but dont think I'm doing enough to make a 
difference does anyone else feel the same way? What do u do? How do you find 
out what your here for?
gina

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Re: [QUAD-L] Words of wisdom

[Regina Fuller]

There is some equipment that help insert the suppository and do the stimulating 
i got mine at TIRR through rehab. Ones called a dil stick the other an inserter 
for suppository. You can find them online one place is active forever, but 
could be cheaper places just check around. Hope this helps
Regina

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From: Berres, Susan J *HS ; 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Words of wisdom 
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:03:58 PM 

Hello!

 

I'm Sue - I'm an OT at a children's rehab hospital.  I have a question for you 
all about an issue that has arisen with one of my patients.

 

This young person is a high paraplegic and is currently unable to reach his 
anus to do bowel disimpaction.  He could do this before, but he had spinal 
fusion surgery a while back and now his trunk doesn't bend and his arms are too 
short to reach this area.

 

Any ideas about how he could do this independently?  It's really the last 
barrier to him being able to live independently.

 

Thanks!

Sue Berres, OTR/L

[QUAD-L] Does anyone know?

[Regina Fuller]

Does anyone know if there is a flexible silicone catheter? I have to use 
silicone because I'm allergic to latex, but the silicone catheter I'm usin is 
so stiff the dr. asked me to see if I could find a more flexible one he told me 
he didnt like the silicone becuz they are stiff and I've been havin trouble 
with them when we change it.
Thank you in advance because y'all always have great advice n knowledge,
Regina

[QUAD-L] question about wheelchairs

[Regina Fuller]

I'm looking into getting a new power wheelchair and I got to try the qauntum 
600, has anyone heard anything bad or good about them or have a suggestion on a 
good one out there. 
Thank you,
Regina

Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

Re: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging

[Regina Fuller]

Whether its a supra pubic or not sounds like you might need to irrigate and 
flush out the sediment and mucus, but also might want to get some antibiotics. 
You can flush with water and vinegar and do it till it comes clean You should 
be irrigating whenever you start getting to much junk in the tube, but at least 
couple times a week.. Or you might have some infection thats why the stediment 
and mucus is clogging it.
Regina

Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

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From: ahuesing...@yahoo.com ahuesing...@yahoo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 6:08 PM











I hope someone can help me, I have a supra-pubic catheter and it keeps plugging 
up. Mainly it seems to be mucus, but sometimes it gritty stuff. I've heard of 
pills to acidify the urine and flushing with things like Renacedin (sp?). What 
works best for you guys? Please help

Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary

[Regina Fuller]

Hey Dana congrats on 35 yrs. I'm only at 10yrs July 31. I, too, have been 
pretty healthy.( I'm a c6-7 quad. I can't stay still for long plus I do get in 
a manual as often as possible mainly for excercise and to keep my weight down. 
I went from 205 to 125 now holding at 130. I've broken my right leg 3 times ( 
shoot almost can't keep count) LOL Mainly from trying things, but if you don't 
try, how will you know if you can, right.) For those of you who don't know me.
By the way I'm about to be a grandma, my daughter is 7 mos and its a girl 
(woohoo) I'm so excited.
 
Oh Dana by the way What I'm worried the most about the medicare/medicaid is 
they (government)want to stop in-home care.
One thing I have heard is The Governor of Texas is really looking into the 
healthcare, like he did the stimulus thing. He didn't take all the money only 
enough to help the unemployment and welfare n few other things. What I don't 
understand with the Healthcare is with its hard enough with getting things with 
medicare/ medicaid I hope and pray they don't screw it up worse.
 
Regina

Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote:


From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:25 AM



congrats on being a tuff ol' goat  DAANO.  I've had only one close call with a 
uti -  I've been unusually healthy since 5-24-1967.  yupper 42 years.  (I had 
to think for a minute of the exact date - that's gotta tell you something )  
looks like this sci stuff isn't nearly as deadly as one might think.
azdave
 
Young people talk of the future because they have no past, 
while old people talk of the past because they have no future. 
Dave  Patty's Grandkids 
 

In a message dated 7/27/2009 7:28:02 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
daa...@aol.com writes:

I can't believe I made it to my 35 th year anniversary.  My parents were told 
after each hospitalization I might not make.  It seems I was strong enough to 
defeat their predictions even though I appeared to be weak at the time.  I was 
given a tracheostomy after each of my surgeries, but it was removed before I 
came home.  I had so many long hospitalizations trying to get off the 
ventilator and over pneumonia.  I was given another tracheostomy during a 
pneumonia in 88, which they changed to a trach button before I left the 
hospital.  It has  kept me out of the hospital except for a UTI that got into 
my bloodstream causing a coma for 13 days.  I had a  pneumonia last year.  The 
trach buttonallows me to get over the bronchitis at home.  I didn't want it, 
but it turned out to be a good thing for me and not very noticeable.  It is 
mostly capped, unless I have a lot allergies or congestion and might need 
suctioned as needed.  It is easy for
 anyone to learn how to do.  I am quite healthy almost all of the time.  I love 
to enjoy life going to concerts, which is one of my favorite things to do.  
Sorry this has been such a lengthy post.
 
I have forgotten, who has the longest survivor that we know of.  They had saved 
that information, but have lost when this computer was reformatted and my 
brother thought he had saved.
 
I haven't got a lot of posts this summer, and I'm sure everybody is busy.  Just 
wanted to say I miss those that I have not heard from.
 
What does everybody think about the new health-care bill as nobody has 
mentioned.  I know that is a political issue, but very important for our 
ability to survive and get what we need.  There has been talk about taking away 
from Medicare.  Medicaid is also having problems with reduced state revenue for 
problems.  Kansas has mentioned there will be some reductions with populations 
such as ours, but I don't know where it will be targeted.  PCA hourly pay is 
very low and hard to find people that want to work with no increases at all for 
a number of years.  
 
Just wondering!
 
 
 
  .
 
 
 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen

[Regina Fuller]

One thing you need to do is before you even upped your baclofen was to find out 
why your getting the sweats n spasms, usually alot of times taking more 
medicine hides whats really wrong.(the sweats n spasms or A.D. is usually our 
body telling us something is wrong) I took myself off (slowly) but 60mg of 
baclofen from 160mg the only reason I needed so much at the time was cause I 
broke my leg. One thing about baclofen is it lowers your blood pressure and you 
need to remember also its hard on the digestive system and liver. It will make 
you very sleepy because its a type of relaxer. You need to talk w/ your doctor 
and see if there's something wrong w/ your back you might have done something 
to it and not realized it or maybe the way your laying in bed or could be your 
bed, but just taking more medicine is not always a good idea, your just masking 
the problem. Maybe try something else becoz thats alot of baclofen and sounds 
like causing more problems.
Regina

Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

--- On Tue, 7/28/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote:


From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:01 PM



The  stuff you grow in the back yard works well too.  :)
 
 
Young people talk of the future because they have no past, 
while old people talk of the past because they have no future. 
Dave  Patty's Grandkids 
 

In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
pjacob...@san.rr.com writes:

Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is 
incredible.
 
Paul c5/6 complete

- Original Message - 
From: dav...@aol.com 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen


Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day.   10mg twice a day was about 
all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still.  My waking 
spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap.   Sleeping/lying 
spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with 
drugs.  Just experiment to find the right balance for you.  No Dr. can guess 
right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism.
AZDAVE
 
Young people talk of the future because they have no past, 
while old people talk of the past because they have no future. 
Dave  Patty's Grandkids 
 

In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
vaescob...@yahoo.com writes:


Hello everyone,
 
I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back 
pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams  were so bad they were 
jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after 
that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. 
Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. 
Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a 
week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage 
thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk  lower pump i'm 
scared toget spams  sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 
40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm 
asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Mark

[Regina Fuller]

I was shocked to hear about Mark.  He had helped me out of the nursing home I 
was in. He had given me the inspiration to get out and to know there was still 
life out in the world even as a quad.  My thoughts and prayers are with his 
family and friends. I hope that Mark and Dave realize how many people that they 
have touched and helped and they both will be missed very much. 
Gina
Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

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From: William Willis lwillis82...@msn.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Mark
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 8:33 AM




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 Hi Dana, I read your post about Mark. It is just stunning and heart breaking 
to lose Mark and dave both. Quad life is a precarious existence. I guess it is 
a blessing that we can't see the  future. Take care. Larry


From: daa...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:33:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Mark
To: lwillis82...@msn.com


Hi Larry,
did you see my e-mail, I was so sad to find out.
Dana



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FW: [QUAD-L] Dave Kelmer

[Regina Fuller]

Dave will be missed. Our thoughts and prayers are with Dave, his family and 
friends. I can't believe he's gone. I know to a better place, but I will miss 
him nonetheless. He was one of the first people I met when I got hurt and 
online. He was always caring,  he always put a smile on my face, he had alot of 
knowledge and gave great advice. 
God bless you Dave
Love Gina

Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and
No one can know what they can do until they try.

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From: William Willis lwillis82...@msn.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Dave Kelmer
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 2:31 PM




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I think Dave and I were the oldest ones on the list. I am 57 and c5 since a 
diving accident in 1971. We had much in common.i too have a sore on my coccyx 
that Ihave battled for 5 years. I have an iv antibiotic for it about twice a 
year. If I remember right,Chris Reeve died of this same thing. Dave was one of 
the finest  and most positive people I have ever known. Ihave a feeling he is 
somewhere doing jumping jacks and pushups right now!
 
Hey Dave! Save me a place! Someday we'll climb trees and run laps together! 
Love you, brother. =) sigh.   Larry Willis
 
 


From: daa...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:55:29 -0400
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Dave Kelmer
To: scil...@yahoogroups.com; disabledofamer...@yahoogroups.com; 
quad-list@eskimo.com



Dave will really be missed with love, especially his warm and loving wishes he 
always  had for everyone. I always felt free to write to him about anything. He 
always answered with extreme caring.
 
Dana
I did not know that death would occur, just by removing a central line. Would 
someone on the list explain this more clearly.
 
Thank you.

 
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God bless you Dave Kelmer. You were a good man and a good friend. You will be 
sorely missed. With love, Larry Willis
 
 
 

 


From: mikeybird...@embarqmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:11:52 -0400
 Aruba 10 nine Subject: [QUAD-L] Dave Kelmer






Dave died when they removed a central IV line from his neck.  His body (as per 
his wishes) was sent to a universityor they were according tor scientific 
study.  His memorial service will be at 1pm CT at the Seventh Day Adventist 
Church, 1305 14th St., Wichita Falls, TX 76301.  Jan only asked that you stop 
and think of Dave and his family for a few moments.
 
I sent a small flower arrangement on behalf of the SCIC and QUAD LIST members.
 
As Dave would say: Stay strong. 
 
Bill J.--The one in FL
C5-6 since 7/20/68 Diving accidentAsia 
Age 58
Leesburg, FL
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs 
when it's free!


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Re: `FW: [QUAD-L] feeling down

[Regina Fuller]

You'll notice too that near holidays more people are emotional, also everyone 
gets depressed its normal and to let a good cry out is healthy, it can let the 
stress out or frustration out or anything. Talking to someone whether it be a 
friend, family or a psycologist helps, but if the depression is to overwhelming 
than do get medication, but beware if the depression isnt chemical alot of 
times the pills could make it worse the side effects could be worse than the 
depression its self. 
Remember though tomorrow is always another day.
Could be worse could be better but it will be different.
Gina

--- On Sat, 12/27/08, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: `FW: [QUAD-L] feeling down
To: Merrill merril...@cox.net, Quadius quad...@gmail.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 6:35 PM







 
Most quads don't seem to be able to control a lot of emotions that use to be 
controlled by hormones from the many glands that no longer function as 
designed, pituitary, hypothalmus, thyroid, even adrenal glands are sending 
mixed messages at best. 
The whole fight or flight thing is a joke. Unfortunately, these same hormones 
are often what direct many other body functions and features. With that said, 
there is no hard fast rule about how much glandular function yiou have.
 
happy New Year,
john
 

--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Quadius quad...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: `FW: [QUAD-L] feeling down
To: Merrill merril...@cox.net
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 3:45 PM


I don't know about anyone else, but I have found that I often demonstrate more 
emotions when I am watching something that has sentimental value on television 
or in the movies than I did prior to being a quadriplegic.

I wonder why that's so.
Quadius


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Merrill merril...@cox.net wrote:




Sometimes a tear is just a tear.
Sometimes you have connected to a sincere and honest moment.
None of the time do I know what I am talking about, but I ask myself if I would 
trade that tear for a pill.
Like a recurrent dream which repeats until we get it, the tear marks an issue 
to understand, accept and move on if it is time, otherwise it is condemned to 
repeat.
Loosing this is what scares me about being on medication.
What do I know though, I still lack the sense to get out of the rain when it 
just feels good.
The weather man may not be right but they do seem happy, so I listen.
 
Merrill
 




From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:00 PM
To: alcibiat...@yahoo.com
Cc: Merrill; quad-list@eskimo.com; Joan Anglin
Subject: [QUAD-L] feeling down
 
John,
I must confess that I cry every time I watch Miracle on 34th St, but I'm not 
normally depressed.  I have been dealing with a slight amount of depression 
over the last couple of weeks, but yesterday it finally broke.

I don't know what changed my attitude, but it did change for the better.  I 
think it's just because I began reading once again and am attempting to put my 
frustrations to the side for a while.  There's nothing I can do about them 
anyway, so why fret.

It seems like when I begin to feel depressed that I immediately get sexually 
frustrated.  I am flabbergasted as to why this occurs, but it is nice to get 
out of the funk without the need of pharmaceuticals.

I understand people need them sometimes, some don't take this as an 
anti-medication diatribe.  I just simply know the way I feel and if I get to 
the point where I'm not respond in a timely manner, I'll go see my 
psychologist.  I hope everyone will do the same for their own mental health.

Merry Christmas,
Quadius

2008/12/23 John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com