Re: [QUAD-L] Bad Chair

[diannal767]

that's what i typed on fb. i've heard much of the work is coming back but yet 
my service man said people are still being laid off. 




I know that much of Invacare was outsourced to China, maybe that could be the 
source of bad products. :-)





-Original Message-
From: Fragile 
To: diannal767 
Sent: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 9:23 am
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bad Chair


I'm on my 5th chair in 20 years right now,  a Permobil, It is the best chair 
yet. Previous chair was a quantum, didn't have much luck with it.



On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:22 PM,   wrote:

They came to service my chair today. From yesterdays rant, most know I need a 
motor. Invacare sent the dealer a bad motor! Yes, it is the motor. The dealer 
communicated with Invacare in all their high tech talk. I have a new joystick, 
computer, wires that go to both, leaving the motors. I'm using a TDX-5, on it's 
3rd motor. My next will be a Quatum made by Pride. All other wheelchairs use 
Invacare parts. FYI if you need to know.


This is a copy/paste from facebook. For those who have a Quatum, how do you 
like it? I'm eligible for a new one in 2015. My TDX has been repaired countless 
times, only 4 yrs old.
To make this matter worse, I live 20 miles from Invacare. The dealer and 
Invacare are both in the same city. They're no longer permitted to drive over 
there to pick up parts. They must be shipped.


I know that much of Invacare was outsourced to China, maybe that could be the 
source of bad products. :-)
Dianna

Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[alanh77]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/01/08 
   at 10:01 AM, "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>The TDX3 is a bottom of the line midwheel drive chair that can handle
>virtually all the aftermarket living attachments. I have a 6 year old one
>that has 1232 miles on it and 7400 hours. i am not fond of it's battery
>size but the new AGM batteries have made a difference with it. Like any
>chair, seating is what makes most of us like a chair. I feel like I have
>done a miracle by keeping it in decent shape so long. My old Storm series
>had rear wheel drive had big batteries and did 10 mph, but the DME didn't
>put in the effort on the chair seating. I miss the power but I like the

With my scoliosis and constantly tipping forward and sideways (even
strapped in), the backs I've used haven't really mattered.

>way this chair gets around in tight places.  I'm just curious as hell
>what has happened to your tdx3? Do you have tilt and recline? Did the DME

I have tilt.  I can move when slightly tilted.

>turn off those restrictive safetys that don't let you move while in tilt
>or recline? Are castor tires coming off? I had a swedish chair that had
>tilt, recline and elevate when I worked. (too many drugs, can't 'member
>da name). It held up for 11 years but when it died there was no fixing
>it.  I firmly believe that because of all the time and care behind the
>seating in this tdx3, it is the most comfortable chair  I have ever had.
>Batteries don't last much more than a year. It has  gone through a lot of
>tires and it has the MK5 electronics so I do switch off and on a lot. 
>So, just to restate myself, wtf are your chairs doing wrong? Best to all
>of you,

The TDX3 isn't broken, my 1996 Arrow Storm is.  I don't like the TDX3.




Alan

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[DiannaL767]

In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:02:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

6 year old one that has 1232 miles on it and 7400 hours.  <<
>> are you sure about this now? :-)  i don't know if your post  was directed 
to me but i explained it to greg anyway. there's nothing wrong with  the chair 
at all, it's me!
dianna

 



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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[DiannaL767]

In a message dated 8/1/2008 2:28:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I hated my TDX3 for 2  reasons. 
First was the  electric legrest. Each legrest has it’s own built on motor so 
you have to  plug/unplug it every time you take the legrest off. They just 
looked and felt  big. 
Second was the  electronics. I don’t know if it’s the motors, gears, or 
motherboard, but it  was hard to drive it in a straight line. Like when you are 
going down a  sidewalk and it starts to veer to the left, when you try to 
adjust 
using the  joystick it clicks and jerks back. There was no smooth way to make 
slight  adjustments in steering. 
I like the tilt/recline  but it' to big & bulky to get use to. I had the 
dealer out several times to  program it but I just couldn't get use to it. I'm 
going to ask if I can use my  next chair on an in home trial basis before I 
choose the next one. I know it  will need measured just for me but if I can try 
one, it should give me an idea  if I'm going to use it or just let it collect 
dust!
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RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Greg]

I hated my TDX3 for 2 reasons.

First was the electric legrest. Each legrest has it's own built on motor so
you have to plug/unplug it every time you take the legrest off. They just
looked and felt big.

Second was the electronics. I don't know if it's the motors, gears, or
motherboard, but it was hard to drive it in a straight line. Like when you
are going down a sidewalk and it starts to veer to the left, when you try to
adjust using the joystick it clicks and jerks back. There was no smooth way
to make slight adjustments in steering. 

My TDX5 is totally different. I ordered a single post legrest. It started
out bad, keeping my feet to close together making my ankles turn in. But
after they put a wider plate on the feet pad and spreading my feet apart, my
legs and feet sit much nicer. And it's such a better ride, very quiet and
smooth driving.

It has tilt, recline, electric leglift, and seat riser. They were nice and
canceled that annoying safety feature that keeps you from driving when it's
tilted or reclined or raised up.

My only complaint is it can not tilt/recline as flat with the seat raiser
installed. My old Permobil could tilt/recline slightly more than flat. So If
I was slightly slide out of my sitting position I could go flat and wiggle
myself back up. Now I'm at something like 20 degrees from flat. Harder for
someone to help slide my up also.

I do wish it was faster, but midwheel chairs are not as safe at faster
speeds. But I love the mobility, I can turn completely around inside my
minivan. Plus I have a few sharp corners in my house.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[John S.]

The TDX3 is a bottom of the line midwheel drive chair that can handle virtually 
all the aftermarket living attachments. I have a 6 year old one that has 1232 
miles on it and 7400 hours. i am not fond of it's battery size but the new AGM 
batteries have made a difference with it. Like any chair, seating is what makes 
most of us like a chair. I feel like I have done a miracle by keeping it in 
decent shape so long. My old Storm series had rear wheel drive had big 
batteries and did 10 mph, but the DME didn't put in the effort on the chair 
seating. I miss the power but I like the way this chair gets around in tight 
places. 
I'm just curious as hell what has happened to your tdx3? Do you have tilt and 
recline? Did the DME turn off those restrictive safetys that don't let you move 
while in tilt or recline? Are castor tires coming off? I had a swedish chair 
that had tilt, recline and elevate when I worked. (too many drugs, can't 
'member da name). It held up for 11 years but when it died there was no fixing 
it. 
I firmly believe that because of all the time and care behind the seating in 
this tdx3, it is the most comfortable chair  I have ever had. Batteries don't 
last much more than a year. It has  gone through a lot of tires and it has the 
MK5 electronics so I do switch off and on a lot. 
So, just to restate myself, wtf are your chairs doing wrong?
Best to all of you,
john 



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:57:34 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

 
Where do you get parts for these?  I have a 96 that just died, and I can't
stand the TDX3 I have.


Alan
Hi Alan,
All three of mine were bought from private owners (newspaper classifieds). I 
drive with one, use the other to run around in the house because I live in Ohio 
and don't want to drag in the snow & mud. The other, which is just about 
stripped by now, we bought for parts. I'm also fortunate that once a year we 
can take our chairs to Invacare & we can get anything done to them at no cost. 
Invacare and local business's sponsors the event. Last year they gave us two 
new 'carry home' motors but most work is done on site. Anyway, people on the 
list have posted about a Wheelchair junkie who sells parts. I have the TDX3 
myself, it sits in the closet, I don't like it either!
Dianna
 





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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[DiannaL767]

Where do  you get parts for these?  I have a 96 that just died, and I  can't
stand the TDX3 I have.


Alan
Hi Alan,
All three of mine were bought from private owners (newspaper classifieds).  I 
drive with one, use the other to run around in the house because I live in  
Ohio and don't want to drag in the snow & mud. The other, which is just  about 
stripped by now, we bought for parts. I'm also fortunate that once a  year we 
can take our chairs to Invacare & we can get anything done to them  at no 
cost. Invacare and local business's sponsors the event. Last year they  gave us 
two new 'carry home' motors but most work is done on site. Anyway,  people on 
the list have posted about a Wheelchair junkie who sells parts. I have  the 
TDX3 
myself, it sits in the closet, I don't like it either!
Dianna

 



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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[wheelchair]

I was never a big fan of E&J and often wondered how they impressed the  VA 
for so many years.  But that is just me.  I too wonder what goes on  in the 
minds of some manufacturer's engineering minds when it comes to  complicated 
electronics in today's wheelchairs.  When a product is covered  by a 
manufacturer's 
warranty, you have to play by their rules.  As a 3rd  Party or 4th Party 
repair station you have to follow the directions, practices  and rules of your 
bosses and superior when doing service and repairs. Of course,  when something 
goes wrong...everything seems to go wrong and people become  upset and 
angry.
 
Bottom line, if you are happy with the results, so be it and you are a much  
better person.  If anything went wrong after the mechanical/electrical  
change, what would you have done?  Not everyone is as fortunate as you, and  I 
wish 
they all were as fortunate.
 
Prototyping, has its accepted risks.
Best Wishes and continued good fortune!
W
 
 
In a message dated 7/23/2008 11:52:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I had a chair in the 80's that the switch for the recline would fry about  
once a month. Of course, the manufacturer would use a high quality switch. As  
it turned out the switch that E&J put in was a 12 volt switch with a 4 amp  
fuse inline. When I went to a local garage they had a 24 volt switch used on  
trucks and the guy there cut off the inline fuse and replaced it with a 8 amp  
fuse, mostly because when he opened the motor it said it was an 8 amp 24 volt  
motor. A month later I gave the guy at the garage $30 out of pocket. I  
couldn't afford the $350 dollars that Medicare kept paying for the DME to fix  
it. 

BTW,   That wheelchair at Allegro doesn't have fuel  tanks. Turbines use a 
lot of gas. I guess I'll just stick with my Wankel  powered chair. It only does 
140mph but it only needs 1.5 gallons a gas per  day.

peace to you all,
john


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:48:39 PM
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics




Let common sense prevail.  Rarely will those after market switches  work as 
designed.  Those toggle switches may all look the same on the  handle, but you 
have to consider what is inside the body that counts.
You have to consider that any replacement switch be equal in action to  the 
original one.
 
Best Wishes



o c'mon w.if it works, it works. do you think this w/c i'm  sitting 
in knows where it's switch came from? you say 'rarely', well thare ya  go! 
didn't someone post on here about invacare chairs and barbie doll cars? if  
someone has someone in the family that can mix and match to make it go, what  
difference does it make? quit making it so real and difficult! that van of  
your 
family doesn't run on gasoline either, does it? :-)
best wishes,
dianna <taking my driving w/c with it's generic switch to go get  some 
ice-cream. geezzz
 



 

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[John S.]

I had a chair in the 80's that the switch for the recline would fry about once 
a month. Of course, the manufacturer would use a high quality switch. As it 
turned out the switch that E&J put in was a 12 volt switch with a 4 amp fuse 
inline. When I went to a local garage they had a 24 volt switch used on trucks 
and the guy there cut off the inline fuse and replaced it with a 8 amp fuse, 
mostly because when he opened the motor it said it was an 8 amp 24 volt motor. 
A month later I gave the guy at the garage $30 out of pocket. I couldn't afford 
the $350 dollars that Medicare kept paying for the DME to fix it. 

BTW,That wheelchair at Allegro doesn't have fuel tanks. Turbines use a lot 
of gas. I guess I'll just stick with my Wankel powered chair. It only does 
140mph but it only needs 1.5 gallons a gas per day.

peace to you all,
john



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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:48:39 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

 
Let common sense prevail.  Rarely will those after market switches  work as 
designed.  Those toggle switches may all look the same on the  handle, but you 
have to consider what is inside the body that counts.
You have to consider that any replacement switch be equal in action to  the 
original one.
 
Best Wishes
o c'mon w.if it works, it works. do you think this w/c i'm sitting 
in knows where it's switch came from? you say 'rarely', well thare ya go! 
didn't 
someone post on here about invacare chairs and barbie doll cars? if someone has 
someone in the family that can mix and match to make it go, what difference 
does 
it make? quit making it so real and difficult! that van of your family doesn't 
run on gasoline either, does it? :-)
best wishes,
dianna <taking my driving w/c with it's generic switch to go get 
some ice-cream. geezzz
 





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RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Joan Anglin]

I bought my own chair myself because I did not have private insurance or
Medicare. Medicare did not consider me disabled-nor do they now-because I
did not have enough quarters working for Social Security in the five years
before I was disabled to qualify. Gee guys, I made the decision to stay home
and take care of my mother who had a massive stroke and would have been in a
nursing facility otherwise. Just my bag that I broke my neck three years
later, and lacked the quarters to be disabled J. I came into the system as a
retiree with my wheelchair, and trying to get it fixed locally is
impossible. Up until now Teftec was great to work with, but they are out of
business, and Next Mobility is the new distributor, and I have been
attempting to get some help for the last six weeks, I finally appeared to
have spoken with the correct person, and what I need is on the way. And
Medicare will buy me a new seat cushion, but will not buy me wheelchair
tires, batteries or any repairs. They did however buy me new arm troughs-go
figure? The answer I get is we will buy you a new wheelchair. I don’t want a
new wheelchair, I absolutely love my Omega Trac, and I do not want a “mall”
wheelchair that will get stopped by the slightest bump in the ground. So I
will therefore pay to fix my own chair, and hopefully not whine about it.
LOL

Joan

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so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has
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RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Greg]

 

What I hate about insurance companies and wheelchair repair places, is a lot
of them have contracts with each other. Like mine. Because of this contract,
they can not work on my chair unless it goes through the insurance. Even if
I want to pay cash. They will ONLY work on my chair if I go through the
insurance and they deny my claim. So when I needed a new tire, I had to wait
2 months

1st: An appointment to get a service call to see what I needed. (I couldn't
just tell them).

2nd: They send a claim to the insurance.

3rd: Once OKed, they order the parts.

4th: Because this takes over 30 says, they verify the claim again. (An
approval only last for 30 days).

5th: Call to make an appointment to come in for the repair. Who knows how
long the waiting list is.

 

So when I need emergency help like a flat tire, I go to another place I
found that has common repair items in stofck.

I miss the way I had it in Seattle. I just went in any time for smaller
things and they did it then, then billed my insurance. Better insurance
there, but so few places near Phoenix keep parts in stock.

I'm lucky. It's so nice having a fairly new backup chair. I just plug it in
once a moth to keep the batteries going.

 

Greg

 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[John S.]

That is cold. I don't know how much an electrician would charge but these 
chairs are not state of the art. I have a brother in law that I beg and he 
likes to show off at how he can fix anything within reason. I would imagine you 
could  send the bill to Medicare.  The trick is being able to afford the guys 
bill. My DME  would repair anything I have as long as I buy a chair from them 
on a regular basis. They do charge me to fix stuff I bought from Ebay.
Ok, why did you buy a chair from a private party? You understand, I need to 
know why no insurance paid for yours.

best luck,
john



- Original Message 
From: William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:15:34 PM
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] bad chair

 First thing I checked. I'm feeling very urinated on and frustrated right now. 
There are 3 Invacare dealers within 20 miles of me. None  of them will even 
look at the chair. Why? Because I didn't buy it there. I bought it  from an 
individual. You would think a certified dealer would provide service to its 
company  products, like Ford or Chevy, but not so. Their basic answer  was - 
tough luck bud, but we'd love to sell you a  new one. Greedy jerks. I have no 
idea how to get it fixed.


 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:18:53 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
Are you sure that the levers are in the up position for driving versus pushing?
 


 
From:William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:08 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair
 
guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries are 
ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are on. 
The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?


 
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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[wheelchair]

You are most fortunate, and I know that you know that already. May your  
chair continue to have a life of its own and continue to survive with the help  
of 
your skillful husband.. and friend.
 
The van has changed so much since you saw it in Norwalk.  Back then we  ran a 
small block (355) a supercharger and a bottle of spray  (Nitros).   Two years 
ago, we went to big block racing using a 454  engine block and a big 
supercharger and racing fuel.  Last October after  the race season, the engine 
was 
completely overhauled and modified to run on E85  Flexfuel.  The spray has gone 
away.
 
Thanks for keeping me on my toe.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:14:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  DiannaL767 
writes:

 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 8:11:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Toggle  switches are available with different values and poles.  Some are  
momentary.  Others are double throw, in their action.  Granted, if  you are 
womanly wise enough to find the exact switch with the correct  action go 
fer 
it. 


i'm not womanly wise enough to go fer it and never claimed to be,  that's why 
i juss send my man and he just keeps these 'ole things rollin so i  gotta 
give him the credit. both you and he seem to deserve that knowledge. i  know 
what 
the van runs on but i was there and saw it run on nitrous  oxidewe could 
all use alittle of that...ya know?
dianna

Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[DiannaL767]

 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 8:11:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Toggle  switches are available with different values and poles.  Some are  
momentary.  Others are double throw, in their action.  Granted, if  you are 
womanly wise enough to find the exact switch with the correct  action go 
fer 
it. 


i'm not womanly wise enough to go fer it and never claimed to be,  that's why 
i juss send my man and he just keeps these 'ole things rollin so i  gotta 
give him the credit. both you and he seem to deserve that knowledge. i  know 
what 
the van runs on but i was there and saw it run on nitrous oxidewe  could 
all use alittle of that...ya know?
dianna

Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[DiannaL767]

 


Let common sense prevail.  Rarely will those after market switches  work as 
designed.  Those toggle switches may all look the same on the  handle, but you 
have to consider what is inside the body that counts.
You have to consider that any replacement switch be equal in action to  the 
original one.
 
Best Wishes



o c'mon w.if it works, it works. do you think this w/c i'm sitting  
in knows where it's switch came from? you say 'rarely', well thare ya go! 
didn't  someone post on here about invacare chairs and barbie doll cars? if 
someone 
has  someone in the family that can mix and match to make it go, what 
difference does  it make? quit making it so real and difficult! that van of 
your 
family doesn't  run on gasoline either, does it? :-)
best wishes,
dianna 

RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Silas Shelburne]

Ive had a Invacare tdx for 6 months, its been in the shop 4 times!  Silas 

 

From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:44 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

 

Lets face it folks, if invacare built cars these damn things wouldn't get
permits for sale in the USA. The electrical systems are so outdated I'm sure
there parts come from a factory that use to build barbie cars. My DME says
the best thing he can say about them is that Medicare covers them. 

Now, before I say anymore, is the dial turned toward the rabbit or the
turtle?

 

john

 

 

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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair




Amen Dave.  Sometimes that works when there is a programing error.  Other
times you have heat related problems and mechanical problems.

 

That is why I always suggest the provider first and then watch what they do.

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 7/16/2008 2:34:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i found that unplugging all connections and plugging them back in fixed my
latest intermittent power problems. i wish you luck - these blasted things
can be very temperamental. 
AZDAVE




On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I would post at http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/ and ask there, they will
probably figure it out.

 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

 


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From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:08 PM 


To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair

 

guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries
are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are
on. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power
level lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?


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RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[Mark Jackson]

I go to a electrical warehouse to get toggle switches and most of the time I
can find the same model of the original but of course a crap load cheaper
than our DME or wheelchair manufacturer.
On my old quickie p320 I had a LaBac recliner and the switch had to be
replaced several times at a cost of $175 or $10 at my place so it's a no
brainer to me.
 
 

Mark Jackson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:36 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics


Let common sense prevail.  Rarely will those after market switches work as
designed.  Those toggle switches may all look the same on the handle, but
you have to consider what is inside the body that counts.
You have to consider that any replacement switch be equal in action to the
original one.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:04:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 

guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries
are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are
on.. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power
level lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?

hi there! that's strange because just yesterday my other 1/2 fixed my
driving chair. it's an invacare and he called them & they said it could be
the control box or the 'switch'. mine did the same, just quit but the on
light would flick on and off. mine was the switch. if you can get to radio
shack you can get one there.
dianna
 




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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

[John S.]

I don't know about that. Radio Shack has provided me with some superior 
switches and cables. At least, superior to invacare.
john



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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:36:03 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair-Radio Shack Electronics

Let common sense prevail.  Rarely will those after market switches work as 
designed.  Those toggle switches may all look the same on the handle, but you 
have to consider what is inside the body that counts.
You have to consider that any replacement switch be equal in action to the 
original one.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:04:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
 
guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries are 
ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are on. 
The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?
hi there! that's strange because just yesterday my other 1/2 fixed my driving 
chair. it's an invacare and he called them & they said it could be the control 
box or the 'switch'. mine did the same, just quit but the on light would flick 
on and off. mine was the switch. if you can get to radio shack you can get one 
there.
dianna
 





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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[John S.]

Lets face it folks, if invacare built cars these damn things wouldn't get 
permits for sale in the USA. The electrical systems are so outdated I'm sure 
there parts come from a factory that use to build barbie cars. My DME says the 
best thing he can say about them is that Medicare covers them. 
Now, before I say anymore, is the dial turned toward the rabbit or the turtle?
john



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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:07:54 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

Amen Dave.  Sometimes that works when there is a programing error.  Other times 
you have heat related problems and mechanical problems.
 
That is why I always suggest the provider first and then watch what they do.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 7/16/2008 2:34:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
i found that unplugging all connections and plugging them back in fixed my 
latest intermittent power problems. i wish you luck - these blasted things can 
be very temperamental. 
AZDAVE




On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would post at http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/ and ask there, they will 
probably figure it out.
 
Mark Jackson
   RollinOn
 



From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:08 PM 

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair


guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries are 
ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are on. 
The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Quadius]

I think what John suggested and Dave are probably the best solutions.




On 7/16/08, William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries
> are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are
> on. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power
> level lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?
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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[wheelchair]

Amen Dave.  Sometimes that works when there is a programing  error.  Other 
times you have heat related problems and mechanical  problems.
 
That is why I always suggest the provider first and then watch what they  do.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/16/2008 2:34:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i found that unplugging all connections and plugging them back in  fixed my 
latest intermittent power problems. i wish you luck - these blasted  things can 
be very temperamental. 
AZDAVE



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:


I would post at  _http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/_ 
(http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/)  and ask there, they  will probably figure 
it out.
 
 
 
Mark Jackson 
RollinOn 



 

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Subject: [QUAD-L] bad  chair





guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and  batteries 
are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the  control box are 
on. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and  all the power level 
lights are  on at once.  The chair does  nothing. Any ideas?
 

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[DiannaL767]

guys, my  invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries 
are ok  because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are 
on. The  'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights  are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any  ideas?
hi there! that's strange because just yesterday my other 1/2 fixed my  
driving chair. it's an invacare and he called them & they said it could be  the 
control box or the 'switch'. mine did the same, just quit but the on light  
would 
flick on and off. mine was the switch. if you can get to radio shack you  can 
get one there.
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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[David O'Connell]

i found that unplugging all connections and plugging them back in fixed my
latest intermittent power problems. i wish you luck - these blasted things
can be very temperamental.
AZDAVE



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  I would post at http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/ and ask there, they will
> probably figure it out.
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>RollinOn
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:08 PM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] bad chair
>
> guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries
> are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are
> on. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power
> level lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?
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RE: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[Mark Jackson]

I would post at HYPERLINK
"http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/"http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/ and ask
there, they will probably figure it out.
 

Mark Jackson

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From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:08 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair


guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries
are ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are
on. The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power
level lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[John S.]

If you have tilt and recline on your chair, try moving the seat full up and see 
if it moves. If it does you need your safeties reset. If not, then your main 
control box may be toast. Either way call the DME that sold it to you. I'm 
hoping you keep a backup chair. Put your good batteries in it and start 
remembering how it drove. 
Best Wishes,
john



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From: William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:07:51 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] bad chair

guys, my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries are 
ok because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are on. 
The 'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?

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Re: [QUAD-L] bad chair

[wheelchair]

Sorry, but that is not enough information.  Have you contacted your  
provider?  What were you doing at the time?  Has it happened  before?You 
may have 
disconnected or snapped a loop wire and  your system is frozen until the 
problem is connected.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

guys,  my invacare power chair has died on me. The control box and batteries 
are ok  because I tested them. Every one of the lights on the control box are 
on. The  'gas gauge' is lit from one side to the other and all the power level 
lights  are  on at once.  The chair does nothing. Any ideas?
 

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