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Time to end your uti's Greg. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?133414-Microcyn-Bladder-Treatment-%28An-Open-Letter-to-Dr-Young%29 I stopped reading this thread around page 45 and took action. I used to get uti's every 6 weeks or so. I started irrigating my bladder with vetericyn vf and have only treated 2 uti's in the past 4 years. I probably could have knocked those 2 out by irrigating twice a day. I've never read that entire thread but vetericyn (the veterinary form of microcyn) has solved my uti problems. Greg, on a personal note, years ago I contacted you on the list because of my nerve pain that made me feel like my arms were soaking in ice water. I thought you felt something similar. I thought your solution was moving to Arizona. Do I have the right guy? Anyway, other than moving, have you found any other treatment for the cold? Your post leads me to suspect not. On 12/4/2015 4:47 PM, greg wrote: I wasn't feeling great so I wanted IV fluids. At first my doc said yes, but changed his mind. The hospital records said my urologist ordered the home IV antibiotics, so my primary said he wouldn't, that the urologist needs to. But I hadn't seen the urologist. Only made an appointment. He wouldn't because he hadn't seen me. The hospital said they wont. They will set up home IV meds, but not just fluids. So I ended up back in ER just for fluids. Now the ER just called to see how I was doing. I say I feel about 80% better, but still body very sore, spasms, etc. They say the cultures came back and the IV meds are the wrong kind. They wanted me to get admitted until home nursing got everything changed. I said no, I feel good enough to wait until tomorrow. If not set up by then, I'll go in for an IV, but not admitted. All I know is next time I go in, I'm bringing a bunch of those heating pads and an electric blanket. I was just freezing. At least I feel lots better even if wron meds, Greg This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com
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What a snafu! He said, she said, they said, and nobody talked to each other. At least you are feeling better, and you were listening to your own body. Hopefully they will get the right med's and you will be on your way to recovery. Joan From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:47 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Update I wasn't feeling great so I wanted IV fluids. At first my doc said yes, but changed his mind. The hospital records said my urologist ordered the home IV antibiotics, so my primary said he wouldn't, that the urologist needs to. But I hadn't seen the urologist. Only made an appointment. He wouldn't because he hadn't seen me. The hospital said they wont. They will set up home IV meds, but not just fluids. So I ended up back in ER just for fluids. Now the ER just called to see how I was doing. I say I feel about 80% better, but still body very sore, spasms, etc. They say the cultures came back and the IV meds are the wrong kind. They wanted me to get admitted until home nursing got everything changed. I said no, I feel good enough to wait until tomorrow. If not set up by then, I'll go in for an IV, but not admitted. All I know is next time I go in, I'm bringing a bunch of those heating pads and an electric blanket. I was just freezing. At least I feel lots better even if wron meds, Greg
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prayers your better soon From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 4:47 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Update I wasn't feeling great so I wanted IV fluids. At first my doc said yes, but changed his mind. The hospital records said my urologist ordered the home IV antibiotics, so my primary said he wouldn't, that the urologist needs to. But I hadn't seen the urologist. Only made an appointment. He wouldn't because he hadn't seen me. The hospital said they wont. They will set up home IV meds, but not just fluids. So I ended up back in ER just for fluids. Now the ER just called to see how I was doing. I say I feel about 80% better, but still body very sore, spasms, etc. They say the cultures came back and the IV meds are the wrong kind. They wanted me to get admitted until home nursing got everything changed. I said no, I feel good enough to wait until tomorrow. If not set up by then, I'll go in for an IV, but not admitted. All I know is next time I go in, I'm bringing a bunch of those heating pads and an electric blanket. I was just freezing. At least I feel lots better even if wron meds, Greg
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I agree that publicity is needed about the hospital. I would call the director and then the newspaper. That is so unfair and against all policies that should be in place. Dana. I'm so sorry about your pain. I hope you can find a solution and a great Dr. To examine you carefully and do all the testing that is needed as soon as possible. Dana In a message dated 7/25/2014 6:05:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, michelle.keph...@gmail.com writes: This happened to me once before when I needed a chest x-ray. I also had to go to a different center that would help position me. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:47 PM, nichole rohling <_zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net) > wrote: my understanding is they must accommodate you From: Larry Willis [mailto:_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) ] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:02 PM To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain Said they would not help What kind of outfit is this, Danny? I believe a bit of publicity via a letter to the paper is in order. Let them explain themselves to the public. -- Forwarded message -- From: Danny Espinoza <_Danny@immortaldesigns.co_ (mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) > Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain To: Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >, _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) They said they wouldnt help... I ended up changing to get it done at the hospital tomorrow instead of that imaging center. -Danny Original Message Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain From: "Larry Willis" Date: Fri, July 25, 2014 4:23 am To: Danny, don't they have a couple of aides who can lift you onto the table? That's what I always do. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best. Chronic pain can simply wipe you out. Good luck and God bless, my friend. Stay strong. Larry Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Danny Espinoza" Date: July 24, 2014 at 10:10:19 AM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain So... I've been hurting consistantlly and when I spoke to my dr he felt a mass on my arm and ordered an ultrasound. We got the results back and they said they didnt see anything which my Dr then ordered an MRI for this friday. When I called I asked if they had a lift or if I needed to bring my own which they replied sorry we will not allow you to do that on our property. So now I'm going to attempt to bring a sliding board and hopefully they wont have an issue wiith it. I really hope we figure this out soon because the constant and horrible pain is starting to get to me and constantly taking my Vicoprophen and barely being able to to get any rest/sleep because of the pain has got to be tough on my body... Has anyone else experienced extreme pain like this in their back and found an answer to the problem? I sleep in a fully adjustsble hospital bed with a rotating low air loss mattress and I do full range of motion twice per day. I'm really not sure whats going on and was curious if any other quads have had anything similar go on and what they did to get it to stop. -Danny
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The little image centers are independently owned and do what they want. One more thing is most image centers give you an open Mri which is no good for usage b4 a surgery, the closed mri the hospital has gives a more detailed view. The hospital is going to be more accomadating , they have seen it all. Some people get scared when they here that a "quad" is coming. Since my arms work and just my hands and forearms are affected I just tell people I'm paralyzed or a para. Im tired of the .your not a quad thing..or the fear factor at the hospital. Yes my legs are as dead as a doornail to, but my spasms are almost non existent anymore. Anyone know why that could be? On Friday, July 25, 2014 6:05 PM, Michelle Kephart wrote: This happened to me once before when I needed a chest x-ray. I also had to go to a different center that would help position me. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:47 PM, nichole rohling wrote: my understanding is they must accommodate you > >From:Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:02 PM >To: quad-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain > >Said they would not help What kind of outfit is this, Danny? I believe a >bit of publicity via a letter to the paper is in order. Let them explain >themselves to the public. > >-- Forwarded message -- >From: Danny Espinoza >Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 >Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain >To: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com > > >They said they wouldnt help... I ended up changing to get it done at the >hospital tomorrow instead of that imaging center. > >-Danny > Original Message >>Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain >>From: "Larry Willis" >>Date: Fri, July 25, 2014 4:23 am >>To: >>Danny, don't they have a couple of aides who can lift you onto the table? >>That's what I always do. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best. Chronic >>pain can simply wipe you out. Good luck and God bless, my friend. Stay >>strong. Larry >> >>Sent from my iPad >> >>Begin forwarded message: >>Resent-From:quad-list@eskimo.com >>>From: "Danny Espinoza" >>>Date: July 24, 2014 at 10:10:19 AM EDT >>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com >>>Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain >>So... I've been hurting consistantlly and when I spoke to my dr he felt a >>mass on my arm and ordered an ultrasound. We got the results back and they >>said they didnt see anything which my Dr then ordered an MRI for this friday. >>When I called I asked if they had a lift or if I needed to bring my own which >>they replied sorry we will not allow you to do that on our property. So now >>I'm going to attempt to bring a sliding board and hopefully they wont have an >>issue wiith it. >>>I really hope we figure this out soon because the constant and horrible >>>pain is starting to get to me and constantly taking my Vicoprophen and >>>barely being able to to get any rest/sleep because of the pain has got to be >>>tough on my body... >>>Has anyone else experienced extreme pain like this in their back and found >>>an answer to the problem? >>>I sleep in a fully adjustsble hospital bed with a rotating low air loss >>>mattress and I do full range of motion twice per day. I'm really not sure >>>whats going on and was curious if any other quads have had anything similar >>>go on and what they did to get it to stop. >>> >>>-Danny >
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This happened to me once before when I needed a chest x-ray. I also had to go to a different center that would help position me. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:47 PM, nichole rohling wrote: > my understanding is they must accommodate you > > > > *From:* Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 5:02 PM > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain > > > > Said they would not help What kind of outfit is this, Danny? I believe > a bit of publicity via a letter to the paper is in order. Let them explain > themselves to the public. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: *Danny Espinoza* > Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 > Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain > To: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com > > They said they wouldnt help... I ended up changing to get it done at the > hospital tomorrow instead of that imaging center. > > > > -Danny > > Original Message > Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain > From: "Larry Willis" > Date: Fri, July 25, 2014 4:23 am > To: > > Danny, don't they have a couple of aides who can lift you onto the table? > That's what I always do. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best. Chronic > pain can simply wipe you out. Good luck and God bless, my friend. Stay > strong. Larry > > Sent from my iPad > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *From:* "Danny Espinoza" > *Date:* July 24, 2014 at 10:10:19 AM EDT > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* *[QUAD-L] update /pain* > > So... I've been hurting consistantlly and when I spoke to my dr he felt a > mass on my arm and ordered an ultrasound. We got the results back and they > said they didnt see anything which my Dr then ordered an MRI for this > friday. When I called I asked if they had a lift or if I needed to bring my > own which they replied sorry we will not allow you to do that on our > property. So now I'm going to attempt to bring a sliding board and > hopefully they wont have an issue wiith it. > I really hope we figure this out soon because the constant and horrible > pain is starting to get to me and constantly taking my Vicoprophen and > barely being able to to get any rest/sleep because of the pain has got to > be tough on my body... > > Has anyone else experienced extreme pain like this in their back and found > an answer to the problem? > I sleep in a fully adjustsble hospital bed with a rotating low air loss > mattress and I do full range of motion twice per day. I'm really not sure > whats going on and was curious if any other quads have had anything similar > go on and what they did to get it to stop. > > > > -Danny > > >
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my understanding is they must accommodate you From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:02 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain Said they would not help What kind of outfit is this, Danny? I believe a bit of publicity via a letter to the paper is in order. Let them explain themselves to the public. -- Forwarded message -- From: Danny Espinoza Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain To: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com They said they wouldnt help... I ended up changing to get it done at the hospital tomorrow instead of that imaging center. -Danny Original Message Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] update /pain From: "Larry Willis" > Date: Fri, July 25, 2014 4:23 am To: > Danny, don't they have a couple of aides who can lift you onto the table? That's what I always do. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best. Chronic pain can simply wipe you out. Good luck and God bless, my friend. Stay strong. Larry Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Danny Espinoza" > Date: July 24, 2014 at 10:10:19 AM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] update /pain So... I've been hurting consistantlly and when I spoke to my dr he felt a mass on my arm and ordered an ultrasound. We got the results back and they said they didnt see anything which my Dr then ordered an MRI for this friday. When I called I asked if they had a lift or if I needed to bring my own which they replied sorry we will not allow you to do that on our property. So now I'm going to attempt to bring a sliding board and hopefully they wont have an issue wiith it. I really hope we figure this out soon because the constant and horrible pain is starting to get to me and constantly taking my Vicoprophen and barely being able to to get any rest/sleep because of the pain has got to be tough on my body... Has anyone else experienced extreme pain like this in their back and found an answer to the problem? I sleep in a fully adjustsble hospital bed with a rotating low air loss mattress and I do full range of motion twice per day. I'm really not sure whats going on and was curious if any other quads have had anything similar go on and what they did to get it to stop. -Danny
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I use boards and usually bring a helper to do my mris and ct scans. I have on occasion been lifted by staff, but usually I slide board my way on without to much of an issue depending on the place. im dealing with some pretty tough pain, but Im going as long as I can without a scan. I don't want a surgery because the last one I had was such an ordeal it made me realize I was lucky to get out of there alive. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:10 AM, Danny Espinoza wrote: So... I've been hurting consistantlly and when I spoke to my dr he felt a mass on my arm and ordered an ultrasound. We got the results back and they said they didnt see anything which my Dr then ordered an MRI for this friday. When I called I asked if they had a lift or if I needed to bring my own which they replied sorry we will not allow you to do that on our property. So now I'm going to attempt to bring a sliding board and hopefully they wont have an issue wiith it. I really hope we figure this out soon because the constant and horrible pain is starting to get to me and constantly taking my Vicoprophen and barely being able to to get any rest/sleep because of the pain has got to be tough on my body... Has anyone else experienced extreme pain like this in their back and found an answer to the problem? I sleep in a fully adjustsble hospital bed with a rotating low air loss mattress and I do full range of motion twice per day. I'm really not sure whats going on and was curious if any other quads have had anything similar go on and what they did to get it to stop. -Danny
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I don't know if anyone has updated this lately, but she was booked at the same facility and bonded out the same night for $3500 (I believe). She resigned the very next day, if my memory serves me correctly. There have been at least two more abuse allegations to have surfaced, but I'm not sure how credible all of them are yet. One of them looks like it might have some promise, but the main thing is the facilities down here are updating their procedures on how to deal with people with disabilities. At least there is some silver lining. Quadius On 2/21/08, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I heard she was arrested and booked in the same station she jumped the > guy at. > > greg > > > -- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:04 AM > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* [QUAD-L] update > > > > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone heard any thing more about the quad being dumped out of his > chair? I am wondering if justice is going to prevail.I think the woman who > dumped him should be fired. > > > > -- > Keep on Rollin, > Paul >
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I heard she was arrested and booked in the same station she jumped the guy at. greg _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:04 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] update Hi All, Has anyone heard any thing more about the quad being dumped out of his chair? I am wondering if justice is going to prevail.I think the woman who dumped him should be fired. -- Keep on Rollin, Paul
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She was and bonded out with $3500 dollars Best Wishes In a message dated 2/21/2008 8:54:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I heard she was arrested and booked in the same station she jumped the guy at. greg **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
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The deputy resigned from her job rather than sit through hours of people telling her shes a bad person and needs empathy. I have more than a few cops in the family. The bet is that the deputy starts a new job in less than two months elsewhere in Florida. Everyone gets upset when they see us get mistreated openly. I hope the guy sues big time. john - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:03:45 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] update Hi All, Has anyone heard any thing more about the quad being dumped out of his chair? I am wondering if justice is going to prevail.I think the woman who dumped him should be fired. -- Keep on Rollin, Paul Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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The other 3 are now suspended WITHOUT pay. The news here said she is free on bail but no trial date has been set. In a message dated 2/20/2008 2:41:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She is still on suspension with the county, without pay. 3 others are on paid suspension. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
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I understand the offending deputy was arrested and jailed, but was released on a $3500 bond. She had disconnected her phone. She is still on suspension with the county, without pay. 3 others are on paid suspension. W In a message dated 2/20/2008 12:04:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, Has anyone heard any thing more about the quad being dumped out of his chair? I am wondering if justice is going to prevail.I think the woman who dumped him should be fired. -- Keep on Rollin, Paul **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
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contact your cell phone company...Eric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've brought this subject up with Amy more than once. She's reluctant to change cell numbers because she uses it for more than personal use. Is there any way to block certain numbers? Eric S. Dial wrote: Eric, I'm being a buttinsky here, but why does her family even have her contact info (e-mail, phone, etc) if they're so adamant about not having anything to do with her? Why don't you & Amy change your e-mail addresses and whatever other contact info of your's these people have to ensure cruel outreaches such as these can't happen? As for Gramps - if I were Amy I'd want to hear it from HIM and ignore that heartless mother of hers - sheesh. Just my two nosy cents! Steph
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I've brought this subject up with Amy more than once. She's reluctant to change cell numbers because she uses it for more than personal use. Is there any way to block certain numbers? Eric S. Dial wrote: Eric, I'm being a buttinsky here, but why does her family even have her contact info (e-mail, phone, etc) if they're so adamant about not having anything to do with her? Why don't you & Amy change your e-mail addresses and whatever other contact info of your's these people have to ensure cruel outreaches such as these can't happen? As for Gramps - if I were Amy I'd want to hear it from HIM and ignore that heartless mother of hers - sheesh. Just my two nosy cents! Steph
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Ya hafta keep some contact for harrassment and in case Eric and his proud wife win the Wisconsin State Lottery. Guess who will the second to knock his front door??? lol W In a message dated 4/24/2006 5:37:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric, I'm being a buttinsky here, but why does her family even have her contact info (e-mail, phone, etc) if they're so adamant about not having anything to do with her? Why don't you & Amy change your e-mail addresses and whatever other contact info of your's these people have to ensure cruel outreaches such as these can't happen? As for Gramps - if I were Amy I'd want to hear it from HIM and ignore that heartless mother of hers - sheesh. Just my two nosy cents! Steph
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Eric, I'm being a buttinsky here, but why does her family even have her contact info (e-mail, phone, etc) if they're so adamant about not having anything to do with her? Why don't you & Amy change your e-mail addresses and whatever other contact info of your's these people have to ensure cruel outreaches such as these can't happen? As for Gramps - if I were Amy I'd want to hear it from HIM and ignore that heartless mother of hers - sheesh. Just my two nosy cents! Steph
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Do it anyway...for him not them!!!Eric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gang,Here's the latest with my wife's family. Amy's mother e-mailed her to let her know her grandfather had been diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer. The e-mail also informed her that she was forbidden to call or visit him. What the hell is wrong with these people? Eric
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Hi Eric, Every case is different, but my wife and I moved from MI to AZ just to get our own space after we married. I wasn't in a chair yet but the in-laws hated everything about me. They made false accusations about me stealing from their house that finally forced us to move. After we had our son a year later the in-laws were more accepting of us being together, but it took time before they really welcomed me to the family. I will keep you and your wife in my prayers. You both need to think of the future of your baby. I know you don't want to raise a baby in such a hate filled environment, so do what your hearts tell you to do. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Eric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gang,If you remember, a couple weeks ago I told you about the situation my wife and I were in with her evil family and a baby on the way. Amy's father stopped over to drop off some presents her sister left for Amy at her parents house the week before. My mother (I love her but sometimes she just doesn't use her head) mentions to Amy's father that Amy's pregnant. That was a week ago and none of her family has called her. So she's bummed about that. I don't know what Amy was thinking but she calls her grandma (mother's mother) and now I know where Amy's evil mother gets it from. She told Amy, "what do you want me to say? That your child's going to be beautiful? That your child's going to be loved?" Then accuses Amy of having a baby just to try to save her relationship with her family. She said the only thing she could do to save her relationship with her family was to cra! wl back to them, without me OR THE KID, and beg for their forgiveness. You see, in their world, being with a quad is not only doing something horribly wrong, it also hurts them personally. I think they would prefer I was an able bodied serial child molester. There is good news though. The grandma said that her family wants nothing to do with us or the baby. So we no longer have to worry about involving them in the child's life. Also, I think she considers this latest slap in the face, the last straw. She told her cousin what the grandma said and her cousin told her she had to cut her family out of her life completely. I've been telling her that for years but I guess you have to hear it from the right people. I think she may actually do it this time. She has also agreed to counseling. She just doesn't want to do it now for fear of stressing the baby. I'll hold her to it though. Eric
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S. Dial wrote: Eric, Her family dislikes you solely because you're disabled? Bizarre! It is bizarre. I think they would prefer a physically abusive alcoholic. Yes, he beats her, but at least he's not one of them disableds. An innocent child doesn't need bigotry and ignorance from within it's own family, this world will show them that soon enough. Hope Amy pursues that therapy though, it can be very helpful in many ways. Word (as the kids say) Eric
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Eric, Her family dislikes you solely because you're disabled? Bizarre! Someone said they're reminded of "Flowers in the Attic," lol, I'm thinking more like a X-File episode but I won't say which one because it really is insulting, unfortunately, none of us can choose what family we're born into, but thankfully, we can grow up and choose to leave that family. It sounds like Amy's has made that choice for her but I think she and your child will only benefit from it. An innocent child doesn't need bigotry and ignorance from within it's own family, this world will show them that soon enough. Hope Amy pursues that therapy though, it can be very helpful in many ways. Best of luck, Steph
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Hi Stacey, I know how much the laptop would mean to you. I'll say a prayer that the best will happen for you! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you Dave, I appreciate it. I'm a little nervous for sure. I don't know how big he's going to open it and I am already so lonely laying in bed all the time. I am hopefully getting the roho so I would be able to get up a little bit but as it stands this cushion is horrible for me and I will only get in it if I absolutely have to like dr. apt's or bp/shower and then I'm hurting like crazy by the time I'm out of it. I can't believe this cushion did this much damage. I also might be able to get money for a lap top so keep your fingers crossed for me. It's so lonely in there all alone. I live alone so pretty much no one to talk to. My friend/helper pretty much comes over to bring me food but isn't able to stay long so that is all the interaction I have. I talk to my Mom like once a week and my Dad every couple of weeks and my brothers are losers so I barely talk to them. The lap top would be a life saver for sure. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List ; Ol' Man River Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update Hi Stacy, Just a note you let you know you're in my thoughts and prayers. I know the healing process is slow, long, and boring, so I hope your wound heals nicely and you're able to be up and on your way again soon! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and it is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on hold for the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for the email. Stacy - Original Message - From: Ol' Man River To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update hurry back stacy, we miss your input. i got some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down owie. Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and dont talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do! . Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. Stacy Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thank you Dave, I appreciate it. I'm a little nervous for sure. I don't know how big he's going to open it and I am already so lonely laying in bed all the time. I am hopefully getting the roho so I would be able to get up a little bit but as it stands this cushion is horrible for me and I will only get in it if I absolutely have to like dr. apt's or bp/shower and then I'm hurting like crazy by the time I'm out of it. I can't believe this cushion did this much damage. I also might be able to get money for a lap top so keep your fingers crossed for me. It's so lonely in there all alone. I live alone so pretty much no one to talk to. My friend/helper pretty much comes over to bring me food but isn't able to stay long so that is all the interaction I have. I talk to my Mom like once a week and my Dad every couple of weeks and my brothers are losers so I barely talk to them. The lap top would be a life saver for sure. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List ; Ol' Man River Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update Hi Stacy, Just a note you let you know you're in my thoughts and prayers. I know the healing process is slow, long, and boring, so I hope your wound heals nicely and you're able to be up and on your way again soon! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and it is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on hold for the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for the email. Stacy - Original Message - From: Ol' Man River To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update hurry back stacy, we miss your input. i got some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down owie. Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and dont talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do. Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. Stacy Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey Stacy, It's good to hear from you!! How are you doing? Hope your healing up well! I just wanted to say I've got my fingers crossed for you and I hope this time the docs can get things finally sorted for you!! Stay positive! Love Smurf xxx In a message dated 14/09/2005 05:32:44 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and don’t talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do. Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. Stacy
Re: [QUAD-L] update
Hi Stacy, Just a note you let you know you're in my thoughts and prayers. I know the healing process is slow, long, and boring, so I hope your wound heals nicely and you're able to be up and on your way again soon! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and it is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on hold for the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for the email. Stacy - Original Message - From: Ol' Man River To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update hurry back stacy, we miss your input. i got some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down owie. Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and dont talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do! . Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. Stacy Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and it is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on hold for the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for the email. Stacy - Original Message - From: Ol' Man River To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update hurry back stacy, we miss your input. i got some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down owie. Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and dont talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do. Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. Stacy Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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hurry back stacy, we miss your input. i got some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down owie. Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys, this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small family and dont talk that much and the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do! . Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for a little bit during the day. StacyDave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Update on quadriplegic surgery
Billy, You do have angle looking out for you. Wow! what a story! Billy Shoot for the Moon you got it coming. The Wheelchair Warrior Hammond Ind[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Billy,that is such a wonderful story. Thank you for sharing.Dana (C 4-5, 31 years Post, 51, KC) In a message dated 8/6/2005 10:54:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Billy, A great story. I love to hear when good things happen to others. Thanks for the update. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA "B. Kimberlin (Quadius)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had been asked quite some time ago to keep the list updated on of Phil Barrett, [had the surgery to enable him to breathe without the ventilator] in the last time I talked to him he was able to breathe without ventilator for the majority of the day. I have also provided a web site where a video can be seen about what a local business did for him. http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=13058 Billy Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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Billy,that is such a wonderful story. Thank you for sharing.Dana (C 4-5, 31 years Post, 51, KC) In a message dated 8/6/2005 10:54:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Billy, A great story. I love to hear when good things happen to others. Thanks for the update. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA "B. Kimberlin (Quadius)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had been asked quite some time ago to keep the list updated on of Phil Barrett, [had the surgery to enable him to breathe without the ventilator] in the last time I talked to him he was able to breathe without ventilator for the majority of the day. I have also provided a web site where a video can be seen about what a local business did for him. http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=13058 Billy Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [QUAD-L] Update on quadriplegic surgery
Hi Billy, A great story. I love to hear when good things happen to others. Thanks for the update. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA "B. Kimberlin (Quadius)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had been asked quite some time ago to keep the list updated on of Phil Barrett, [had the surgery to enable him to breathe without the ventilator] in the last time I talked to him he was able to breathe without ventilator for the majority of the day. I have also provided a web site where a video can be seen about what a local business did for him. http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=13058 Billy Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See
Thank you for sharing. Liz - Original Message - From: Sylvia See (by way of Jim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See folks I just have to answer this posting. There is so much fear in this email it is frightening. I didn't post my message to scare the pants off everyone, I posted it let you know why Gale didn't resubscribe after his surgery, like his posting said he would. Let me fill you in on Gale's expectations and the results. There is so much truth in this posting, that I have to respond. 1. We live in Alberta Canada, and are living with the hosiptal situation in our area, not neccessarily true everywhere. Here the reason for poor nursing care is a pat cutback problem answer. Gale had terrible pressure sores on his butt, and they were complicated because after 22 years of being a quad, this catheter continually bipassed, and we were constantly worried about infecting his pressure sores. Also, after 22 years of having problem bowel routines, his bowels had reached the point where we were unable to get him up in the sling to lift him without his bowels moving. They had reached the point where he was having to be cleaned sometimes more than 7 times a shift, which was really wearing thin his quality of life and the patience of his caregivers. This was also making it extremely difficult to keep his sores clean. He researched the surgery for a claustomy (you spell it hee hee), and a suprapubic cathether for 2 years before making the decision to have his surgery. He consulted with four doctors before making his decision. When it reached the point where it was impossible to lift him into his wheelchair any more without his bowels giving way, he made the decision to try the surgery. He was assured this would not only help with the sores it would improve his quality of life many times over. He had spent the past 5 years 95% of the time in bed, trying to get the sores healed, and now with the bowels and bladder problems, his quality of life at the point where he was willing to take the risk, knowing full well that the most dangerous place in the world for a quad was the hospital. Quads are just too damn much work. He expected to be home in 3 to 4 days. 2. In Alberta, on WCB (Workers Compensation Board), we fought and won the battle for homecare caregivers, 24hours a day,, and for the past 18 years, have had around the clock staff looking after him, paid by WCB. This enabled us to get out of solitary confinement and actually have a great life together. However, also their policy, until about 9 years ago, was that the minute he went into hospital, the staff were layed off until such time as he got back home. In that timeperiod he came down with the flue and a cold, and complications set in his lungs. He had to go to the hospital, and within the first 1/2 hour of his being there it was very obvious that they didn't have a clue how to look after him. I watched for a half an hour, as we were getting him settled and was fighting the nurses within the first 5 mins, and they didn't have a clue that he was unable to ring a call bell, feed himself and they were tossing him around the bed like he was a 15 year old hockey player. They were absolutley at a loss as to helping him cough up the crap, so I asked the staff to stay with him. Now, I am going to say, right, now that we had exceptional folks working for us. Common folk off the street with no medical training, and all had been trained by Gale and myself. Note: I was the furthest thing from a nurse that you could get when he broke his neck. However, these caregivers, went around the clock with him at the hospital, and he was transferred to the Lethbridge hospital. This is a city hospital, so we expected much better care than what he got in our small community. However, they didn't have a clue either, so I keep the staff working, and they did, even though at that time, they didn't even know if they would get paid for their time. They were driving from Claresholm, to Lethbridge, and then working 12 hour shifts with no breaks, mostly with him in a sitting position while they pushed the diaphram for hours helping him cough. The hospital staff, stopped occasionally, at the door to watch, but rarely offered to help. We nearly lost him that time, but our caregivers pulled him through. When he got back home, I called his family doctor to the house for a 2 hour doctor's appointment, where I outlined the documented care he got from hospital staff. I asked him for a letter, for WCB stating that if He didn't have HIS staff with him when he had to go to the hospital, that he would die. OUR doctor had no problem at all
Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See
folks I just have to answer this posting. There is so much fear in this email it is frightening. I didn't post my message to scare the pants off everyone, I posted it let you know why Gale didn't resubscribe after his surgery, like his posting said he would. Let me fill you in on Gale's expectations and the results. There is so much truth in this posting, that I have to respond. 1. We live in Alberta Canada, and are living with the hosiptal situation in our area, not neccessarily true everywhere. Here the reason for poor nursing care is a pat cutback problem answer. Gale had terrible pressure sores on his butt, and they were complicated because after 22 years of being a quad, this catheter continually bipassed, and we were constantly worried about infecting his pressure sores. Also, after 22 years of having problem bowel routines, his bowels had reached the point where we were unable to get him up in the sling to lift him without his bowels moving. They had reached the point where he was having to be cleaned sometimes more than 7 times a shift, which was really wearing thin his quality of life and the patience of his caregivers. This was also making it extremely difficult to keep his sores clean. He researched the surgery for a claustomy (you spell it hee hee), and a suprapubic cathether for 2 years before making the decision to have his surgery. He consulted with four doctors before making his decision. When it reached the point where it was impossible to lift him into his wheelchair any more without his bowels giving way, he made the decision to try the surgery. He was assured this would not only help with the sores it would improve his quality of life many times over. He had spent the past 5 years 95% of the time in bed, trying to get the sores healed, and now with the bowels and bladder problems, his quality of life at the point where he was willing to take the risk, knowing full well that the most dangerous place in the world for a quad was the hospital. Quads are just too damn much work. He expected to be home in 3 to 4 days. 2. In Alberta, on WCB (Workers Compensation Board), we fought and won the battle for homecare caregivers, 24hours a day,, and for the past 18 years, have had around the clock staff looking after him, paid by WCB. This enabled us to get out of solitary confinement and actually have a great life together. However, also their policy, until about 9 years ago, was that the minute he went into hospital, the staff were layed off until such time as he got back home. In that timeperiod he came down with the flue and a cold, and complications set in his lungs. He had to go to the hospital, and within the first 1/2 hour of his being there it was very obvious that they didn't have a clue how to look after him. I watched for a half an hour, as we were getting him settled and was fighting the nurses within the first 5 mins, and they didn't have a clue that he was unable to ring a call bell, feed himself and they were tossing him around the bed like he was a 15 year old hockey player. They were absolutley at a loss as to helping him cough up the crap, so I asked the staff to stay with him. Now, I am going to say, right, now that we had exceptional folks working for us. Common folk off the street with no medical training, and all had been trained by Gale and myself. Note: I was the furthest thing from a nurse that you could get when he broke his neck. However, these caregivers, went around the clock with him at the hospital, and he was transferred to the Lethbridge hospital. This is a city hospital, so we expected much better care than what he got in our small community. However, they didn't have a clue either, so I keep the staff working, and they did, even though at that time, they didn't even know if they would get paid for their time. They were driving from Claresholm, to Lethbridge, and then working 12 hour shifts with no breaks, mostly with him in a sitting position while they pushed the diaphram for hours helping him cough. The hospital staff, stopped occasionally, at the door to watch, but rarely offered to help. We nearly lost him that time, but our caregivers pulled him through. When he got back home, I called his family doctor to the house for a 2 hour doctor's appointment, where I outlined the documented care he got from hospital staff. I asked him for a letter, for WCB stating that if He didn't have HIS staff with him when he had to go to the hospital, that he would die. OUR doctor had no problem at all writing that letter, and our staff were paid for their time and expenses. That incident was also a first, and it setup our situation for his last trip to the hospital. This time there was no hassle at all about his taking his staff to look after him, and WCB arranged motel rooms and meals for them, so this part of his ordeal went very well. 3. All arrangements for his surgery, hospital care (special bed and our staff), ambulance delivery down and back, and the many tests bef
Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See
Funny how often many of us think of this very situation. I know I will be leaving some very wonderful people behind who love and care for me very much. I know I will never see this place in exactly the same way again, and all I know and do today will forever be a part of my past. There are however a few things I will be glad to leave behind. If you read the right books, you are told that each of us planned our lives before we got here as something we needed to accomplish. In deadly fear that if I leave early, I might not be satisfying my etherly goals (and thus have to repeat them), I am sticking around for every bit of knowledge and awareness I can squeeze out of this odd self induced experiment in karma advancement. I don't think I need to make such grandiose advances my next few trips here so I'll be the Hugh Hefner guy next time enjoying the fluffier side of soul guilding. I know you miss Gale as I know he misses you. All of us are mere ships passing in the night from which we gleen every bit of enrichment we can. I fully believe we will be able to contact the loved ones we knew here after we all return home, and in a way that knowledge makes the stay here without them just a bit more palatable. My joy is with you as you enjoy Gale's new freedom with him in anticipation of that glorious time when you will see him once again. Peace ad Love, Dave In a message dated 1/18/2005 12:05:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED]No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005 The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See
Hi Sylvia, I am proud to say Gale was a friend, and while he will be missed, I join you in celebrating his life! He is indeed free. May God bless you and your family. We will always be here for you should you need us. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Gale See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED]No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005
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Sylvia, I'm saddened to hear of the passing of Gale. My heart goes out to you and your family. Thank you for informing us all. God Bless... Tim Gale See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED]No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005 Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! What will yours do?
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Our thoughts are with you Sylvia. I'm so sorry to have lost a net friend so suddenly. Yes, Sarah aka Smurf, summed it up well. I was corresponding with him via the quad list when he was on because we both had a similar wound. Yes, his energy will go on without doubt and he was one of the kindest & wisest members on the q-list. I must ask, however, ... was the surgery for his wound? A heart attack as the final killer? Hmm I'm tired of the cliche "nothing can bring him back" albeit being true. But was he in for wound surgery? Unless there is ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER option for myself to be treated (including a year in bed at home if need be) I won't go into a hospital these days. The horror stories I've been hearing by patients & employees ... there's a good chance that someone coming out alive (especially quads or the elderly) is against the odds. People get so weary of fighting to get quality care from those who are supposed to do no harm. But dammit, we the people need to take a stand and get those "seemingly good" quacks OUT of the profession. * June 1995 - A neurosurgeon let cerebral spinal fluid leak out of the back of my head for TWO WEEKS (after negligence in surgery) before he went back in to solve the problem. AFTER I got meningitus from the leak which made me comatose with a temp over 105. I'm convinced he was waiting for me to die as he did "research" on cadavers with my condition of syringomyelia. ** August 1995 - came home from that hospital in June but in July I had a hugely swollen left leg that was hard as a rock. Being 5 hrs from the hospital... I kept calling with my symptoms. They poo-poohed it as just swelling. A net article told me I could have a clot. I called my local physician and went in. Even though I had had CLASSIC TEXTBOOK symptoms of a deep vein clot ... he doubted it but sent me for a sonogram. I never left the hospital that day. My clot was so extensive it could have caused a deadly pulmonary embolism and instant death. I had to stay in the hospital on heparin week. *** Back in November of 2004 I got a UTI (I'll be plagued with those for the rest of my life of course but...) that had Proteus as the bugger (no pun intended ). And my Dr wasn't going to treat it! Granted (and I KNOW THIS).. something will always colonize around my foley catheter but if it's one of four (Proteus, Salmonella, Pseudemonas or Shigalla)... YA DON'T LET THOSE GO NO MATTER WHAT! Potentially lethal. If it weren't for Dave and his microbiology knowledge .. I would have said ok to not treating. When Dave heard it was Proteas in the urine ... we insisted on treatment. Unfortunately, being a stronger bugaroo and they did no "follow up" culture ... it came back. I started having lower abdominal pain a week ago and it didn't let up. I knew right away what must have happened but they have to do ANOTHER culture TO MAKE SURE what bug it is & what med to be put on that it'll react to. ** My brother-in-law (very very healthy 59-yr-old) had a routine colonoscopy. They saw something further up and the Dr insisted it be removed IN CASE it was benign and "your area has a high case load of colon cancer." (Enough to scare patients into it). The surgery went fine. A month later (August 2004) he got violently sick. Then sicker. Some coincidence! There was obviously a leak where the surgery was ... releasing colon material into the abdominal cavity. He was so sick--looked like death. Back in the hospital on IV anti-biodics. All he wanted was to get better so he didn't sue for negligence. But this surgeon is doing 5 or so opf these ASSEMBLY LINE surgeries a day! Lining his pockets with when the surgeries are probably unwarranted anyway. My list for myself and others goes on. Two friends, 3 more relatives Ah Lori -------Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 01/18/05 11:32:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See In a message dated 18/01/2005 07:05:18 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sylvia, Thank you for informing us of Gale's passing. I think I can speak on behalf o
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In a message dated 18/01/2005 07:05:18 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sylvia, Thank you for informing us of Gale's passing. I think I can speak on behalf of the group when I say Gale was such a lovely person who touched all of us at some point. His body may have left the Earth, but his memory is something that can never leave us. We will never forget, along with celebrating his freedom and independance - something he always strived to achieve. Love Sarah aka Smurf xxx
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My deepest sympathy, Liz - Original Message - From: QuadPirate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See Hello Sylvia, I'm very glad you took time to let us know about your's and our loss of Gale. I'm glad I got to meet Gale and will miss him and I'm positive he's dancing with Angels today. Thank you again for letting us know. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Gale See Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:04:46 AM To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Sylvia, I'm very glad you took time to let us know about your's and our loss of Gale. I'm glad I got to meet Gale and will miss him and I'm positive he's dancing with Angels today. Thank you again for letting us know. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Gale See Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:04:46 AM To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Update Gale See Folks I am not sure if this will get through without me subscribing, but am giving it a shot. I want to let you know that Gale had his surgery on the 4th, but he had many complications, and on the 11th he passed away from a heart attack. I do want to let you all know how much you meant to him on the list. He is free and walking with his grandson, and he knew that either way, he was going to improve the quality of his life. We are celebrating his life, not mourning his death on the 28th of Jan. God Bless you all, and thankyou so much from Gale, for your fellowship. Gale's wife Sylvia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
