Re: Mac monitor Apple Performa Plus

[Allen Davis]

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 17:56 -0500 on 07/10/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >I know Magnavox isn't exactly the BMW of electronics manufacturers, but
> >I have four of them now (I've owned over a dozen since 1995), and
> 
> The Performa Plus, or Magnavox products?
> 
> >they've always been better than the older AppleColor High-Resolution RGB
> >Monitor that came standard with most Mac II-whatever systems.
> 
> Geesh.  You have opposite taste in displays from most "experts" - the HighRes
> RGB was a Trinitron, and vertically flat.  The Performa Plus is neither and
> generally is much harder to look at than the HighRes RGB.

FLAT?? FLAT YOU SAY Jeez, the Apple RGB monitor has such a
left-to-right curvature that it gives me a headache!
> 
> That's not a criticism of you, but just to point out that the HighRes RGB is
> far superior to the Performa Plus in the categories generally accepted to be
> important for display quality.

That may well be, but keep in mind that all my Apple Hi-Res RGBs are
getting well on in years now, and I think all CRT-type monitors degrade
over the years with usage. All I was saying was that the Performa Plus
displays I've had have served me very well; the screens are flatter, and
using good color calibration software, they've been pretty easy to use
in getting good color rendition on output.

Again, I know there are many MUCH BETTER screens out there. But there
are monitors out there that are MUCH bigger dogs than the Performa Plus.

As a matter of fact, I find myself using one such beast as my second
monitor right now (where I'd normally keep my tool pallettes and the
like in Illustrator/Photoshop, etc.). My big monitor (an ancient
SuperMac 20") just pooped out and I had to migrate my old Apple 15"
Multi-Scan over for yeoman's service as my "big" monitor until I get
another screen to take its place.

To reiterate: the biggest problem I have with the Performa Plus is that
you can't change its resolution. Oh, yeah, one more thing: it does
appear to me that the black space surrounding the image area is growing,
but then again, I've had this same old Magnavox box since April, 1995,
if memory serves.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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Re: Mac monitor Apple Performa Plus

[Allen Davis]

Amber Rhea wrote:
> 
> On 10/6/02 3:30 PM, Quadlist at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I've got an apple performa plus monitor that works reasonabley for about 5
> > minutes but then the image degenerates until it's unusable. Everything goes
> > gradually out of focus. Adjusting the brightness and the contrast can keep
> > things readable for a little longer but not much longer.
> > Does anyone have an idea of what the problem may be or if it's time to
> > chuck the monitor in bin.
> 
> That is the worst monitor Apple ever made. Do yourself a favor and chuck it
> in a bin. (This coming from someone who usually rescues *anything* with an
> Apple logo on it from a dumpster. Believe me, the Performa Plus Display
> stinks.)
> 
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I respectfully disagree on a couple of points. First of all, Apple never
made the Performa Plus Display. Every example I've ever seen were all
made by Magnavox in Tennessee.

I know Magnavox isn't exactly the BMW of electronics manufacturers, but
I have four of them now (I've owned over a dozen since 1995), and
they've always been better than the older AppleColor High-Resolution RGB
Monitor that came standard with most Mac II-whatever systems.

My biggest gripe with the Performa Plus monitor is that you can't change
its resolution. Mind telling me what your problem with the Performa Plus
was/is? Just curious.

Allen
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Re: Mac monitor Apple Performa Plus

[Allen Davis]

steve wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  I've got an apple performa plus monitor that works reasonabley for about 5
> minutes but then the image degenerates until it's unusable. Everything goes
> gradually out of focus. Adjusting the brightness and the contrast can keep
> things readable for a little longer but not much longer.
>  Does anyone have an idea of what the problem may be or if it's time to
> chuck the monitor in bin.

Sounds like you need to visit your local recycling center and replace
that monitor. It'd cost way more to fix it that another one would cost
you. And judging from how drastically ALL Mac-related products are
dropping in price, I'd spend my money on at least a 17" screen if I were
in your shoes!

Just my .02 worth.

Allen
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Re: 660 av needs a hard drive

[Allen Davis]

KC Wilkerson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have an old 660 av hard drive they can spare?  Mine was
> screamin' so I took it out.  I'm running it on a zip drive.  Also, how can I
> recover data from the old drive?
> 
> Thanks,
> KC

You can replace your drive with virtually any SCSI hard drive, either
new or used. PowerOn Computing (www.poweron.com) has been selling
"pulled" hard drives for a penny per megabyte. I bought a 9-GB IBM hard
drive from them last spring for $89!

I see in their current MacAddict ad that they advertising internal SCSI
drives starting at $9.99 for an 80-MB drive (WAY too small for anything
useful) up to 2-GB. I guess they've finally sold out all the larger
ones, but check their website.

("Pulled" drives mean they were yanked from machines at the factory
because of other problems that flunked them in quality control. The
drives carry a 30-day warranty from PowerOn Computing, but the drives
are still also under full factory warranty, so it's a safe bet you'll
not get burned.)

If the drive was still functioning when you pulled it, you may be able
to re-install it and back up all your data files to Zip disks, or you
can re-install the drive in tandem with an additional drive (internal or
external) and simply copy all your files by drag-n-drop.

I have an old LaCie 1-GB external drive I've had for about nine years.
Sometimes it screams like a banshee with its tail caught in a wringer,
other times it's whisper quiet, but it keeps on ticking. I use it most
often as a portable data storage media where a Jaz drive isn't available.

I don't know how much life the old girl has left in her, but I'll use it
until it dies, then I'll crack its case open and simply replace the
drive mechanism with a bigger one.

At any rate, it's not a good thing when your hard drive begins screaming
at you. It's definitely a symptom that something is awry and that you're
probably living on borrowed time.

BTW, if you install a new internal hard drive along with re-installing
your old drive, you'll have a SCSI addressing issue that will require
resolving before you can proceed. One of the drives will need its
address changed. This is accomplished by installing a jumper pin
somewhere along the lower front of the drive. Most drives are labeled so
you can figure out what a jumper pin would do if installed across any of
the pins. Just make sure that whichever new SCSI address you assign to
whichever drive is not in conflict with any other SCSI device on your
machine -- internal or external. I wouldn't assign address 3 since
that's the usual default address for CD-ROM drives. If you have an
external Zip drive, avoid addresses 5 and 6 since those are the only two
numbers available for that device. That leaves you with 1, 2 or 4.

Hope this helps.

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Re: no ADB

[Allen Davis]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> The keyboards I used are the old school extended keyboards with the wire
> physically attached (not removable). I pulled the whole mouse and keyboard
> off another computer that ran fine so that I could see if it was just a
> keyboard problem. I'm really hoping that the problem isn't a toasted mobo
> since that means 2 that need to be replaced. Any idea where this resistor is
> located on the 950? I'd be willing to probe around the mobo with an ohm meter
> if that's what it took. But even if I could find the problematic resistor,
> how do I go about finding a replacement (if it's one of those itty bitty
> ones)? And resistors, when they normally go, they give off a rather foul
> odder. I didn't get any smell or smoke.

The resistor in question is extreemely tiny. I doubt you could find
probes for your multimeter small enough, let alone install a
replacement. I'm not sure about where the ADB circuitry is located
physically on your mobo, but on my 7200s, 7300, 7500 and 7600 all have
them located right next to the ADB connector, so I'd guess it's a safe
bet to assume that it'd be just as close on your Quads.

When I say these resistors are small, it's dang-near impossible to read
the color coding on them even under fairly serious magnification. Given
their small size, I doubt they'd give off any discernable odor if they
burned out.

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Re: no ADB

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> 
> Hi guys, figured I'd ask you guys for any idea's on a problem I'm having.
> Anyway, this pertains to a pair of Quadra 950's which I'm trying to make
> usable. It started out that both worked good. I then focused on one of them
> to see if I could build it up some (more ram, VRAM, bigger hard drive, ect)
> and then it started to exhibit adb problems (pointer not moving on the screen
> when mouse was moved but keyboard fine). Then after 2 more restarts all adb
> function was dead (no keyboard or mouse response). So I sat with it for a
> while and gave up and moved everything over to the second 950. As soon as I
> fired it up though, it showed the same results as the first one.
> 
> The first thing that came to my mind was maybe a keyboard/wire problem so I
> went and grabbed another (known good) keyboard and mouse but without any
> change in the results. Since I couldn't reset the pram via keyboard anymore I
> yanked the pram battery out of the second 950 and let it sit unplugged
> overnight. When I came back to it the next day I got the same results. I then
> yanked the hard drive, restarted, no change. Tried to start up on system
> floppy but it wouldn't even read it (spit it right back out) giving me a
> floppy icon with an X threw it. So I yanked the floppy drive with no change.
> I then pulled the ram 4 chips at a time trying many different combinations
> all resulting in no adb response.
> 
> When I fire up either 950, the keyboard (extended) lights flash shortly as
> usual but after that fact nothing. Also, if I press the caps lock button a
> few times when starting up, it will light the caps lock light and stay on
> (pressing caps lock after that point does nothing). All ram was pulled from
> working machines (ram from both 950's and 4 sticks from a quadra 700) and all
> were paired in sets of 4. I even tried grabbing 4 1meg sticks and trying that
> but of course nothing. If I pull all the ram I get the tone of death at
> startup which I assume is normal. Anyway, any idea's are welcome and I'll try
> them all if need be. Thanks guys.
> 
>Jake
>94 Hybrid Civic HB

I had a similar experience with a Quadra 840 AV a couple of years ago.
What had happened was the ADB circuitry (on the mobo) had gone south.
Actually, it was a resistor in the ADB circuit that had given up the ghost.

If your ADB circuits are fried, then repair is probably beyond the realm
of possibility unless you or a friend are good at micro-surgical
electronic repairs.

Did you also try using a different known-to-be-good keyboard cable???
You didn't mention that. It's quite possible that's the source of your
problem, too.

Allen
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Klez Worm

[Allen Davis]

Judging from the message lines, I'm going to shoot from the hip, which I
often do anyway.

Not long after I installed Windows 98 on a separate partition of my big
hard drive on my main computer, I started getting weirdness and loss of
files not too much unlike what I experienced back in the days of the
AutoStart worm in 1998.

At first, I was in total denial and disbelief that a Wintel
virus/worm/whatever could hurt us Mac users. In many ways I still am. I
now don't know what to think. I privately believe the Klez virus/worm
CAN affect Macs. If I'm mistaken, I hope someone will disabuse me of my
notion that there are cross-platform diseases.

It took me a few minutes to rid myself and my system of AutoStart. It
took three WEEKS to get rid of the Klez symptoms.

I'm on other mailing lists that are badly infected with Klez; they can't
seem to eradicate it.

Am I mistaken, or does this thing actually have the ability to infect
and/or damage Mac systems???

Allen
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Re: 840av

[Allen Davis]

In a previous post, I erroneously said that my wife's Q840-AV was
running OS 8.6.

I was mistaken, and I beg forgiveness for my lapse. Her system runs OS 8.5.

I had to do the install twice (maybe more, it's been a while). But it
does run, and it ain't that shaggy. The only apps she runs are Netscape
4.76 and Office 98 (Word).

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Quadra 950 Power Supply Went "POP!"

[Allen Davis]

Crap.

Just sitting around playing some mp3s on my 9600/G4 the other night, the
"new" Q950 sitting quietly doing nothing, when everyone heard a loud
"POP" that sounded exactly like a .22 pistol going off indoors. That was
instantly followed by that "electrical burning smell."

I almost immediately noticed that the power light on the Q950 was off. I
couldn't get the machine to respond to any kind of start-up procedure.

I have recently replaced the floppy drive with a 24x CD-ROM drive (and
was trying to figure out a way to "bolt it down;" I had the side-panel
off the machine. I have also replaced the stock HD with two of my own --
a 20-gig IBM and 180-gig IBM internal SCSI drives.

A little probing with a multi-meter proves that the power supply has
officially "gone south."

I'm in shock.

I know I got the computer free (I only paid the $16+ to have it shipped
from West Virginia). I stoked up all the RAM slots until it was full.
BTW, this thing DOES have a PPC upgrade because it's been running Mac OS 8.5.

I've been searching high and low for a power supply replacement and am
heartily discouraged by what these things cost!!!

I think I'm even more disappointed that the HEFTIEST power supply Apple
ever made pooped-out on me!!! I mean, this thing is supposed to be rated
at a massive 300-watts!!! It even has extra power output ports on the bottom!

I've checked all the sites for troubleshooting, too. I wanna fix this
thing; not replace it, but I need to know WHERE to start looking for the
problem. Is it probably in the main transformer, or should I give
scrutinty to the rectifier??? I know how to discharge the transformer if
it's still holding any kind of charge. I'm an old hand at discharging
the so-called "throwback transformers in the Compact Macs. No biggie.
I've built power supplies from scratch in the past using nothing more
than an old schematic I got from Popular Electronics magazine from back
in 1974.

But I don't wanna use RADIO SHACK parts!!! I have PLENTY of experience
with their components, and I find they're not always top-notch. I can
get parts from other sources.

I really don't want to lose this Q950 because of a bad power supply. I
lost a highly-prized Q840-AV due to a thunderstorm last year, which
prompted me to buy a couple of APS UPSes.

Someone please help!

Allen
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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Let me say that I am SO SORRY I said what I did.

I meant nothing insenstive or racially biased.

To me, Michael Jackson is a joke. He is a self-made caricature of his
former self. He is a joke that Jay Leno and Letterman can legitimately
target; why can't I??? They made the SAME JOKE about him on their own
shows, yet they didn't get pilloried the way I have been here on this
list and in private e-mails.

I know Jackson is still black, regardless of his current skin color. His
marriage to Elvis' daughter was widely perceived as a joke, and has
always been surrounded by jokes and innuendo, and still is. Hey, I could
think of a hundred jokes about her current marriage to Nicholas Cage!!!
Yet if I made an offhand remark here about that, not an eyebrow would be raised.

I would dispute your claim the MJ has the "genetic flaw" to which you
refer. It is a documented FACT that he's had a number of "procedures"
performed (many in the UK and other countries) which were deliberately
aimed at lightening his skin pigmentation.

The bottom line is that this guy is a FREAK, and an almost-proven
homosexual child molester.

My best friend in second grade was a black kid who'd survived a terrible
house fire in which he lost his father, who was trying to save him. This
poor kid came out looking horrible where skin color is concerned. He had
large slotches of skin all over his body where he was as white as I am.
It was awful. Other kids ridiculed him; made fun of him; called him
"zebra," "leopard," and other horrible names. To me, he was the same
kid. He didn't scar like my oldest son did when he was horribly burned
when he was three years old. He didn't get the horrible blistering,
bubbling scars like my son got. He was spared that. Instead, his skin
did remain smooth, but his pigmentation was forever changed.

I think we became even closer friends over the years, even though our
paths diverged. Today, he's the principal in a high school in St. Louis,
and he's quite happy, thankyouverymuch. He has 4 beautiful children, two
of which already have Ph.Ds in Sociology and Criminology (the same
things my oldest son is majoring in!).

People look at him funny on first sight, and he's used to it. It's sad,
but as humans, we look at car wrecks too much.

I also have a friend who has the so-called "Elephant Man's Disease."
He's horribly disfigured, and he gets worse year by year. He has less
than 2-3 years to live. He has my sympathy, but he wants no pity. This
man has courage; just like my boyhood friend who was burned. He just
happened to be black. We still talk every now and then, and we revel in
our boyhood memories. We were trying to break down the racial barriers
in Indianapolis in the early 1970s without knowing it, and we did a good job.

My friend with the "Elephant Man's Disease" has since isolated himself.
His death is near now, and he won't allow anyone but his immediate
family to see him. He lives in absolute poverty. He refuses charity. He
will not allow me to publish his name or location. He is a good, good
man, and he maintains his faith in God. After his death, I intend to try
to establish a fund for his two children if I can to ensure they get a
decent education.

Elepant Mans' Disease is exceedingly rare, but it is estimated that
5,000-6,000 people in the US suffer from it in one form or another. This
disease is not uncommon in Africa south of the equator.

Allen
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"David V. Pierce" wrote:
> 
> > Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> >> * Can you remember when Michael Jackson was still black??? I thought
> >> not!!! :-)
> >
> 
> I hate to point this out, but Michael Jackson is still black, at least
> insofar as he is of African American descent. How light or dark someone
> is only partially influenced by that. We have a news anchorwoman in
> Detroit who is supposedly through-and-through an African American, but
> her skin is lighter than mine, and she's got golden-brown hair.
> 
> The shade of skin M.J. has is a result of a genetic flaw which afflicts
> a great number of people throughout the U.S. and which causes the
> unfortunate victim to be the butt of a great deal of teasing and
> ridicule throughout elementary and middle school. I knew a couple of
> kids in middle school like that, and if you don't use liberal amounts of
> makeup to even the skin shade out - as M.J. has in the past - the
> person's raw skin looks, well... just plain weird. There's no better way
> to describe it. For those of you who are over 25 and might not remember
> so well, 12 year olds hate Weird. In fact, they tend to take Weird out
> back and beat the crap out of him.
> 
> Of course, a middle school boy wearing large amounts of makeup to make
> his skin look uniform has an en

Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Ian Moffatt wrote:
> 
> >I never owned one,
> > but a friend of mine did, and he let me borrow it a couple of times.
> 
> That was my first Mac (sort of),  I had the loan of  Mac Portable and a
> LaserWriter and have been hooked ever since.
> 
> Ian

Can you tell me you actually LIKED that beast???

I did own a 5300-CS Powerbook at one time, the one that was subject to
all the recalls and battery problems. Even after mine got fixed, this
thing would burn your legs after 20 minutes of use! Those batteries
still got HOT with usage!

I wish I could've loved mine. It had a 603e PPC processor at 117-MHz,
but it was dog-poop slow compared to my anemic PowerMac 7200/90. The
reason was mainly because the Powerbook had no Level 2 cache at all
(that I'm aware of, and if it did have one, it was not just anemic, it
had lukemia --sp--). It sucked where speed was concerned.

Just another lesson: DON'T buy ANYTHING that's first generation. Same
thing applies to x.0 software -- wait for the updates/upgrades before
plunging in. I've been there/done that far too many times now. I know.

(Exceptions to this rule seem to be Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop.)

Allen
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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 22:13 -0500 on 16/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >* Can you remember when Michael Jackson was still black??? I thought
> >not!!! :-)
> 
> Disturbingly enough, yes.  And when he was still cool.
> --
> 
> the pickle

I do, too, and agree with you. I still think the Jackson 5's rendition
of "Rockin' Robin" was a better version than the original, but we're
getting off-topic, and I promised another list member that I wouldn't
digress any more.

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

I'm sorry you found my comment so tasteless and insensitive. I meant
nothing of the kind. Everybody on earth pokes fun at this clown (and
rightfully so because he's placed himself right in the center of the
bullseye). It was NOT my intention to be inflammatory. I don't give a
flaming s*** about anyone's "blackness," "whiteness" or anything else
regarding ethnicicity. I NEVER made any damned assertions about anyone's
race or cultural background, and dammit, I resent your implications that
I have.

I never signed on to this list to cause trouble or engage in flaming. I
tend to be a little brash and outspoken, and I do have a twisted sense
of humor. If I want that kind of crap, I can just stay on the other
lists I'm already on -- and sick-to-death of. It has NEVER been my
intention to cause trouble HERE or anywhere else, sir, and people who
know me will attest fervently to that fact.

You, sir, need to either take a pill and lie down for a while, or grow a
thicker epidermal layer. Jeez, who lit the fuse on your tampon?

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> Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> 
> > * Can you remember when Michael Jackson was still black??? I thought
> > not!!! :-)
> >
> Excuse me but I find this tasteless in the extreme.
> This isn't The Allen's Pathetic Opinions About Cultural
> Mores List. It also borders on areas that are certainly
> inflammatory. Are we going to create a criteria for
> someone's "blackness"? The assumption here is that
> everyone on the list is white and therefore qualified
> to judge the legitimacy of supposed other cultures.
> This is not where this list wants to go and I think it
> should end now.
> 
> William
> 
> (Who realizes that everybody thinks he's a troublemaker
> but just can't stay silent in view of this needless and
> insensitive trash.)
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Re: Mac OS question.

[Allen Davis]

Kyle Kinsey wrote:
> 
> Just another quick question,
> what is the extension "A/Rose" for
> it get;'s installed by default and crashs the b2 mac emu on my pc ;-)
> 
> Kyle.

Kyle:

My ASP tells me that A/Rose "supports certain NuBus expansion cards.
Needed only if your computer has an MCP-based NuBus expansion card, such
as the Apple Coax/TwinAx NuBus, Apple Ethernet NuBus, Apple Serial
NuBus, and Apple Token Ring card. (A/ROSE ttands for "Apple Real-Time
Operating System Environment."

Whatever the hell some of that means.

You probably don't need it. I don't. I get by fine without it.

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Re: 840 Quadra system upgrade

[Allen Davis]

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 11:18 -0400 on 16/08/02, David Pierce wrote:
> 
> >>At 08:28 -0600 on 16/08/02, Xandr wrote:
> >>What's this say?
> >>
> >>http://lowendmac.net/quadra/q840av.shtml
> >
> >That's kind of blunt.
> 
> Being blunt is my specialty.
> 
> >You're not irritated because Allen is picking on you for being young, are
> >you? ;-)
> 
> Not at all.  I've endured far worse in my tenure here.
> --
> 
> the pickle


Of course you have.

Back in MY DAY, we had "flame wars." I haven't even toasted Pickle's
bread yet! Besides, he seems to be on the same page with me and knows
I'm not busting his balls or anything. You want flaming, go to some of
the lists I used to subscribe to! Hatred and bitterness abounds!

Personally, I like Pickle. Gotta question? He answers it.

I thought Pickle was a bit blunt, but he might've been having an
off-day. He didn't refer me to a FAQ when I asked a stupid question.

I like a little friendly jabbing from my peers, co-workers, list
members, etc. I like to give it, too. It's just all in fun. Or it SHOULD be.

I have a full and happy life, and have much better ways to spend my time
than getting into arguments and disputes about crap that won't mean a
damn thing 1 or 2 years from now. Besides, we don't need the negative
emotions and energy that kind of crap generates.

That said, let's all get back to flaming one another

I'm happy this list keeps all the cursing and swearing to the private,
one-on-one level!!!

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Re: 840 Quadra system upgrade

[Allen Davis]

David Pierce wrote:
> 
> >At 08:28 -0600 on 16/08/02, Xandr wrote:
> >What's this say?
> >
> >http://lowendmac.net/quadra/q840av.shtml
> 
> That's kind of blunt.
> 
> You're not irritated because Allen is picking on you for being young, are
> you? ;-)

TOUCH´E

DAMN! How does one get the Mac's special characters to work on an
archaic e-mail list system like this???

Never mind.

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Re: Asante Video Card? (Was Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK)

[Allen Davis]

Kyle Kinsey wrote:
> 
> >Lots of really old pro monitors (For CAD/CAM applications) used RGB
> >connectors. They were 'coax'-looking jacks of the type also used by
> >so-called 'Thinnet', an Ethernet technology predating 10BT and RJ-45
> >connectors.
> 
> they are called BNC connectors.

Kyle, YOU DA MAN!!! Yes!!! I couldn't remember what they were called!
You hit it on the head!
> 
> >Usually, a monitor had three of these jacks, one for R, one B, and one G.
> >Different video cards used any number of connectors, (VGA, DB15, coax,
> >sometimes even DB25, I think.) along with the appropriate adaptor cable, to
> >split a video signal into those three channels.

I had to buy a weird little adapter with like 9 DIP switches on it to
get that monitor to work. In fact, I had to buy another one to get the
SuperMac 20" monitor I spoke of in another message to communicate with
my PPC Macs and their Rage video cards!

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Re: Asante Video Card? (Was Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK)

[Allen Davis]

David:

I have two 20" SuperMac monitors here I bought at auction that use those
three RGB connectors to plug into the monitor. But that's it. The
opposite end of the cable fits the Mac's monitor port or the connector
for the SuperMac video card.

Last summer, I had a high-priced "surge suppressor" that failed during a
thunderstorm. That monitor got cooked. It's in a closet to this day. For
some reason I can't bring myself to dispose of it.

My other one is sitting on the floor by my feet. And has been for six
months. It has a mysterious short in its power switch. This puppy will
sit there for another 12 months before I work up the courage to crack
its case open and replace the faulty power switch.

I know how to discharge a throwback transformer. But it's such a
distrubing experience, I'd rather wait until the capacitors, etc., have
a chance to "cool down" voltage-wise. It's a difficult wait; almost like
waiting for radioactive waste to reach its half-life!!! Hearing that
loud *POP* is almost as loud as a .38 Spl. snubnose revolver going off
at close quarters. I know because I've done it before.

I had a double-page display monitor at one time (B/W only as it turned
out -- NOT grayscale) that had only a "coax" input into it. I gave $3
for it at auction, but ended up paying a landfill fee for it. It
required a proprietary video card, which the idiots I bought the thing
from didn't know about or mention.

What I NEED is Pickle's "Knowledge Database" before I ever go to another
auction! That, or hunt him down and drag him along with me! ;-)

Allen
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David Pierce wrote:
> 
> It occurs to me that if none of us can remember this thing, it has to be
> realy old. If it's really old and has 8 MBs of VRAM, it must have been
> really expensive.
> 
> Lots of really old pro monitors (For CAD/CAM applications) used RGB
> connectors. They were 'coax'-looking jacks of the type also used by
> so-called 'Thinnet', an Ethernet technology predating 10BT and RJ-45
> connectors.
> 
> Usually, a monitor had three of these jacks, one for R, one B, and one G.
> Different video cards used any number of connectors, (VGA, DB15, coax,
> sometimes even DB25, I think.) along with the appropriate adaptor cable, to
> split a video signal into those three channels.
> 
> This mysterious plug is probably an extension of that, possibly for color
> correction.

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Whooo-H! I shoulda gone to Vegas with my bet!

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 21:46 -0500 on 15/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >You're just a kid yourself, aren't you?
> 
> Depends on whether or not you consider 22 a kid :)
> 
> >I'd place a bet in Las Vegas right now that you aren't much older than
> >my eldest son!
> 
> How's that bet working out?

Yes, I consider 22 a kid. You're a year younger than my oldest son, and
I think HE'S a kid! I'm not much of a gambling man, though. I can play
poker or blackjack with matchsticks or pennies all night long and kick
your butt. We start playing with real money, and I'll lose my shirt.
Another corollary to Murphy's Law, I suppose.
> 
> >Poop, man, I bet you can't even remember TV before remotes were in
> >common use! (I do remember an aunt & uncle who had one of the first
> 
> Actually, we had a B&W until 1988, and it had dials, not a remote.  My best
> friend's parents' TV was colour but also had dials (no remote) and they had
> that until lightning took it out three years ago.

Okay, bad example. I'm sure I could come up with a TON of other stuff
you never experienced or remember first-hand. I'm glad I didn't bet on
the B/W TV! ;-)

I'm not disparaging your youthfulness. Quite the contrary, I'm DEEPLY
impressed by your knowledge (and wisdom at times). Probably even MORE SO
now that I know you're at such a tender age!!! :-)

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Pickle:

You make a fine point! There are no Macs that mass 85-lbs. Unless you've
ever sat with a Mac Portable on your lap for longer than 20 minutes!!!
You'd swear that monstrosity weighed twice as much! I never owned one,
but a friend of mine did, and he let me borrow it a couple of times. It
would've made a fine boat anchor all by itself!

About your phone: it ain't OLD ENOUGH. We had phones from Western
Electric that were manufactured in the 1950s!

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 21:24 -0500 on 15/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >I have a reply to some of this. I'm rusty on my physics, though:
> >
> >the pickle wrote:
> >>
> >> At 23:32 -0500 on 14/08/02, Ryan wrote:
> >>
> >> >And not just sitting in the back, starting and watching.  Now about those
> >> >boat anchors, if you put a 85 lb. computer in the water, how the heck'd you
> >> >get it back up? And it's no doubt that the Apple Newton is the best boat
> >>
> >> The water makes it weigh a lot less than its mass might indicate because the
> >> water holds it up much better than air does :)
> >
> >The computer's air slots will allow it to take in water. If it's salt
> >water, it will mass more than fresh water. You're going to be hauling up
> >the mass of the computer, plus whatever water is circulating through its
> >guts. I believe it will make the computer seems to mass more than its
> >original 85-lbs. Plus, the circulation of water through the vents of the
> >said computer, will give the illusion of added mass which really isn't there.
> 
> Ya, but there aren't any 85-lb Macs.  I think my suggestion was to fill the
> case with concrete (because there aren't any Macs that'll make a decent boat
> anchor unless you do anyway), which would alleviate pretty much all of the
> above.
> 
> >What he's referring to here is an old-fashioned dial telephone (anyone
> 
> I have one, and I can't find any significant magnet in it other than the ringer
> solenoid.
> 
> >scrub the area around this desk because I smoked a lot. Over time, her
> >vaccum erased or damaged a bunch of those disks -- they were in the
> >bottom drawer of that metal desk.
> 
> Motors generate a LOT more magnetic field than a fone does :)

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

So sorry, Bill

BUT THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS!!!

Grand Funk Railroad was the TEMPLATE for more bands than can be counted!

First, Rush Limbaugh pisses me off, and now you!!! ;-)

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> 
> Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> 
> > I just wanna know if you people know that Grand Funk Railroad is back
> > and BETTER than ever???
> 
> Well . . . how hard is that?
> 
> William
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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

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I suppose I could take a picture of it with my old Kodak DC-480 digital
camera, but I'm not a very good photographer where taking macro-type
pics are concerned. I'll TRY to get to it tonight, but I won't promise.
Tomorrow I have my granddaughter for the weekend, so I'm booked. After
that, I might forget -- so remind me.

Allen

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 20:29 -0500 on 15/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >Please see my previous reply.
> 
> If you can scan that card, or get a photo of it, I'd be very interested.
> Asanté made lots of networking gear but this is the first instance of a video
> card from them that I'm aware of.
> --
> 
> the pickle

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Re: C650 boot time.

[Allen Davis]

I'm getting WAY too much info for my aging brain to handle about this
whole deal. Personally, at this point, I don't give a damn. All I know
is that this machine is online, and it's performing its duties in fine fashion.

As a final note, lemme say that ASP is giving me conflicting info every
time I open it about how much RAM the machine has. Sometimes it reports
me having as little at 80-96 megs of RAM. Sometimes it tells me it's got
way more than I know is installed.

I re-seated all the SIMMS and it's still doing it. If I've got a bad
SIMM, it's always passing the boot checks. I ain't gonna worry about it
right now. I'm up to my butt in alligators and can't find a way to drain
the swamp.

If this machine gives up the ghost, all I have to do is yank the hard
drive I need to access and stick it into another machine. There's more
than one way to skin a cat, after all.

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 20:28 -0500 on 15/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >The Apple System Profiler told me this machine has a PPC 601 running at
> >72 MHz. This chip is supposed to only run at 66 MHz. It's been over-clocked!
> 
> That, or ASP is wrong.  In order to get 72MHz out of it, it'd have to have a
> 36MHz overclock, which is only a 3MHz (10%) speed gain, and probably not
> something someone would have risked.
> 
> If you really want to be certain, check the frequency of the clock oscillator.
> Peter can tell you the board reference; my 950 is packed away and I can't get
> to it easily right now.
> --
> 
> the pickle

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Re: hard-drive install problem

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 20:13 -0500 on 15/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >What ARE YOU? An alien or a cotton-picking disgruntled former Apple
> >hardware engineer??? I'd LOVE to have a peek at YOUR "Knowledge Base!"
> 
> Neither, and anyone attempting to peek at my "knowledge base" will be shot on
> sight ;)
> --
> 
> the pickle

That's okay. I know how to shoot back!

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Re: Quadra 650 - PPC Upgrade / Broadband

[Allen Davis]

I currently have a (supposedly) synchronous 128k ISDN line. It only
costs my $9.95/mo. for 150 hours/mo. It's been flaky from Day One. My
upload speeds RARELY exceed 64k, and my download speeds exceed 96k only
every now and then. I've done plenty of griping and raging at my ISP,
but the fact remains, it still beats a 56k dial-up any day of the week,
and it's the same monthly fee. We just had to pay a $120 one-time fee to
the phone company to "condition the line," whatever that means. For all
I know, the service guy did no more than urinate in the network box on
the side of the house!

Allen
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Mark Benson wrote:
> 
> >Wait til T1 shows up in your area. We have it via RF link to
> >houses/businesses here in Star Valley on west side of Wyoming. 25x
> >faster than 53K modem and 6x faster than DSL with [to date - 6 months
> >after installation - no problems] for install fee of 450.00 and monthly
> >cost of 25.00 - what I was paying ISP for unlimited 53K connection.
> 
> $450 is a bit much for the average man to fork out, even as a one-off
> installation fee. I think most people would be happy with DSL to be
> honest, unless you regularly download Linux/BSD Distros and other
> large data files.
> 
> Me, well I'm stuck here on a 64k ISDN line but it does the job and
> it's on 24/7 so I don't much care :).

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Re: Quadra 650 - PPC Upgrade / Broadband

[Allen Davis]

Dean:

You've GOT to be kidding!!

I can get T1 here at home now. The setup/install fee is comparable to
yours, but the catch is, the service costs $289.95 a MONTH!!!

DSL isn't quite ready for prime time here in Morgan County, Indiana, but
it's supposed to be rocking in January, 2003. I know the phone company
has been maniacally laying fiber optic cable all over the place for the
last two years. I'm hoping it will cause our cable company to have
coniption fits. Cable modem here is $50/month ($60/month if you rent
their cable modem -- which means they can shove that part of the deal.
I'll just go to Best Buy and buy a Motorola model for $79!)

I suspect that DSL will be priced about like the Cable company.

I'd like to hear the pros and cons of each. I'd like to lean toward
cable myself, because I simply don't see that many people in my
immediate area subscribing to the service, and thereby sucking up the
available bandwidth. Connie and I live in a nice, conservative
neighborhood with a disproportionately high number of older people who
have never even shaken hands with a mouse!

On the other hand, we live exactly 1.76 miles from the nearest phone
company relay station.

Is it six of one and half-dozen of the other in our case???

Allen
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Dean Arthur wrote:
> 
> Wait til T1 shows up in your area. We have it via RF link to
> houses/businesses here in Star Valley on west side of Wyoming. 25x
> faster than 53K modem and 6x faster than DSL with [to date - 6 months
> after installation - no problems] for install fee of 450.00 and monthly
> cost of 25.00 - what I was paying ISP for unlimited 53K connection.o

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

I wanna pipe in about magnets.

Back in the Stone Age, when I was still running a Mac SE and Pagemaker
4.2 was my main application, I owned a set of those little black metal
Radio Shack stereo speakers that handled a thumping 40-watts. They were
like my satellite speakers for my stereo, and I placed them on my desk.
After re-arranging things around, I ended up with those speakers really
close to my little ET-Mac. I sat down for a work session one afternoon
and almost excreted a concrete chicken when I saw that the image on my
monitor was badly bent and twisted!

I didn't know what to think until I happened to move the speaker on the
right side away from the SE. When I did, the image on the monitor
straightened up forthwith. I had my eyebrows pop up almost to my
hairline, muttering "I'll be dd."

The fact that the speakers were enclosed in metallic cabinets had
nothing to do with the problem -- the metallic enclosures were
non-ferric and thus, not capable of conducting magnetic fields.

>From that time on, I've never allowed speakers that close to my Macs or
my monitors.

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Clark Martin wrote:
> 
> At 2:25 AM -0400 8/15/02, the pickle wrote:
> >At 23:17 -0700 on 14/08/02, Obi-Wan wrote:
> >
> >>the pickle wrote:
> >>
> >>>  At 23:32 -0500 on 14/08/02, Ryan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  >the heck of it. (i.e. Placing a telephone on your Seagate Barracuda II HD
> >>>  >will most likely end up in you reformatting it.) So, here's your
> >>>Mac tidbit
> >>>
> >>>  Anyone have a clue why this might be, and whether it requires a corded or
> >>>  cordless (or cellular) telephone?
> >>
> >>Normal phones have magnets in the handset that can mess up a disk.  I have a
> >>magnet reformatting tool. Same principle.
> >
> >Yeah, that sort of figures, but those magnets aren't very powerful.  A
> >magnetised screwdriver has never caused me any problems and I'd think a fone's
> >speaker magnet would be somewhat less powerful.
> 
> Not as much a matter of how powerful the magnet is but how contained
> the magnetic field is.  A speaker magnetic field is tightly confined.
> Anyone who has ever disassembled a hard drive (I've taken apart
> dozens) knows the voice coil positioner magnet inside one is about
> the strongest magnet you'll come across in home equipment.  And that
> is about an inch from the disks.  Oh and the spindle motor also has a
> nice strong magnet and that is often INSIDE the hub holding the
> disks.  But in either case the magnetic field is is well confined
> across a small gap.  A magnetized screwdriver isn't all that strong
> but the field is rather large.
> 
> Most devices using a magnetic field keep it confined as it is much
> stronger for doing what is needed).
> --
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> Redwood City, CA, USA
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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Pickle:

You're just a kid yourself, aren't you?

I posted something earlier, and obviously before I read this.

I'd place a bet in Las Vegas right now that you aren't much older than
my eldest son!

Poop, man, I bet you can't even remember TV before remotes were in
common use! (I do remember an aunt & uncle who had one of the first
Quasar TVs that had one, and it did literally "click" when you used the
remote -- and that was in 1964!!!)

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 23:17 -0700 on 14/08/02, Obi-Wan wrote:
> 
> >the pickle wrote:
> >
> >> At 23:32 -0500 on 14/08/02, Ryan wrote:
> >>
> >> >the heck of it. (i.e. Placing a telephone on your Seagate Barracuda II HD
> >> >will most likely end up in you reformatting it.) So, here's your Mac tidbit
> >>
> >> Anyone have a clue why this might be, and whether it requires a corded or
> >> cordless (or cellular) telephone?
> >
> >Normal phones have magnets in the handset that can mess up a disk.  I have a
> >magnet reformatting tool. Same principle.
> 
> Yeah, that sort of figures, but those magnets aren't very powerful.  A
> magnetised screwdriver has never caused me any problems and I'd think a fone's
> speaker magnet would be somewhat less powerful.

A magnetized screwdriver isn't the same thing. Those things lose their
"charge" or "magnetism" after a while. You know this. Besides, the
charge you put into a screwdriver isn't that strong. I've been using
them since you were still dragging on a baby bottle -- or at least
that's what I'm now suspecting.

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

Another two cents' worth:

Obi-Wan wrote:
> 
> the pickle wrote:
> 
> > At 23:32 -0500 on 14/08/02, Ryan wrote:
> >
> > >the heck of it. (i.e. Placing a telephone on your Seagate Barracuda II HD
> > >will most likely end up in you reformatting it.) So, here's your Mac tidbit
> >
> > Anyone have a clue why this might be, and whether it requires a corded or
> > cordless (or cellular) telephone?
> 
> Normal phones have magnets in the handset that can mess up a disk.  I have a
> magnet reformatting tool. Same principle.

Absolutely correct, although the magnetic fields emitted today are far,
far weaker than in years past. Less voltage, amperage, etc., etc.
> 
> > >spoiled enough.  Also, did you know that a band called "Air" (A few songs:
> > >How does it make you feel?; Electronic Performers) used Apple's (Yep, that's
> > >right) Macintalk to SING THE SONGS! That's right, MACINTOSHES SUNG SONGS!
> >
> > Radiohead's OK Computer album has several Macintalk clips on it.  I think they
> > used Fred.  Someone recorded Fred singing "We Will Rock You" with some pretty
> > good cover of Queen in the background about six months or so ago, too.  That
> > one's quite funny :)
> >
> 
> That is a good album.

I've heard of RadioHead.

I just wanna know if you people know that Grand Funk Railroad is back
and BETTER than ever??? They're appearing in Muncie, Indiana on
September 6. I have VIP tix, and will be seeing the band BEFORE AND
AFTER the show. 

This isn't the GFR from yesteryear. New lineup (Bruce Kulick on lead
guitar -- formerly with KISS for 12 years and UNION; Max Carl on vocals,
keyboards and rhythm guitar, formerly of .38 Special, Jack Mack & The
Heart Attack; and Tim Cashion on keyboards and vocals -- formerly with
Bolton, Bob Segar and Robert Palmer).

Don Brewer is still singing and doing duty on drums -- he has the
FASTEST RIGHT FOOT in all of rock-n-roll. He doesn't use double bass
drums. This man's speed will amaze and delight, and makes it all look
like he's in slow-motion -- the mark of a great drummer.

Mel Schacher is still thumping the bass. He's been dubbed "the God of
Thunder" by Bass Player magazine. If you see him play, you'll know why.
Even in back-row seats, this guy will pound your chest without hurting
your ears. Interestingly enough, he's the son of a musician who played
bass violin, accordian and banjo for the Lawrence Welk Orchestra on TV
back in the '50s and '60s.

Mel's first exposure on the national scene was when he was still 16 as
the bass guitarist on a No.1 hit song by ? and the Mysterians called "96 Tears."

I know Mark Farner isn't with GFR anymore. Screw it. Let's move on.
These guys ROCK!

If they come to your town, check 'em out! I'm not kidding; I'm not
exaggerating! I loved Grand Funk when I was a kid, but these guys blow
them outta the water!!! You will melt when you hear "I'm Your Captain"
or "We're An American Band!!!"

I'm done. The rant is over.

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Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating

[Allen Davis]

I have a reply to some of this. I'm rusty on my physics, though:

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 23:32 -0500 on 14/08/02, Ryan wrote:
> 
> >And not just sitting in the back, starting and watching.  Now about those
> >boat anchors, if you put a 85 lb. computer in the water, how the heck'd you
> >get it back up? And it's no doubt that the Apple Newton is the best boat
> 
> The water makes it weigh a lot less than its mass might indicate because the
> water holds it up much better than air does :)

The computer's air slots will allow it to take in water. If it's salt
water, it will mass more than fresh water. You're going to be hauling up
the mass of the computer, plus whatever water is circulating through its
guts. I believe it will make the computer seems to mass more than its
original 85-lbs. Plus, the circulation of water through the vents of the
said computer, will give the illusion of added mass which really isn't there.
> 
> >the heck of it. (i.e. Placing a telephone on your Seagate Barracuda II HD
> >will most likely end up in you reformatting it.) So, here's your Mac tidbit

What he's referring to here is an old-fashioned dial telephone (anyone
here remember those??? or even the ORIGINAL touch-tone phones???) Those
things had some HUGE magnets in them. Any phone manufactured by the old
Western Electric company will promply erase any hard drive, floppy, Zip,
Jaz, SyQuest, etc., etc., that you place directly under such phones.

BACK IN THE DAY, I was using my trusty old Mac Plus, and it was on top
of a metal desk. I made this nifty little wooden floppy disk holder to
store my 200+ floppy disks in. We had a cleaning lady who used this HUGE
old 1930s vintage Hoover vacuum cleaner, and she'd have to constantly
scrub the area around this desk because I smoked a lot. Over time, her
vaccum erased or damaged a bunch of those disks -- they were in the
bottom drawer of that metal desk.
> 
> Anyone have a clue why this might be, and whether it requires a corded or
> cordless (or cellular) telephone?

Just the old-fashioned phones. No one uses them anymore -- at least
almost no one! I've got a couple of 1940s-vintage phones, and they are
almost heavy enough to require two men, a boy and a hunting dog just to
lug them around.

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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

[Allen Davis]

Please see my previous reply.

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 22:26 -0400 on 14/08/02, william ahearn wrote:
> 
> >Allen Davis wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought I was "up" on Mac video stuff, but this card is ancient. I
> >> have no clue about "AUI." Is it possible that its a combo video/ethernet
> >> card??? I don't think so.
> >
> >Let me understand this. You have attached a video
> >monitor to it? AUI is an ancient form of networking.
> 
> AUI is a DB-15; he said it had a coax plug, and if it was made by SuperMac,
> there's little chance it's anything *but* a video card.  However, if it was
> made by anyone other than SuperMac, Radius, or RasterOps, it's more likely a
> networking card.
> 
> >AAUI is Apple's version of it which was standard during
> >the quad/PCI era. No, I don't think there was a combo
> >ethernet/video nubus card. I don't think so either.
> 
> E-Machines made several.
> --
> 
> the pickle

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Re: C650 boot time.

[Allen Davis]

Terry:

William Ahearn and you both got me to checking deeper.

B O N U S   T I M E   A G A I N ! ! !

Terry Mathews wrote:
> 
> > I can't find my own Apple/Macintosh database at the moment, but if
> > memory serves me, shouldn't OS 8.1 been the LAST version a 950 should be
> > able to run???
> 
> Somewhere, somehow, that machine has a PPC Upgrade in it... It is not
> possible that it is running 8.5 on a 68040. Maybe it's got the upgrade
> designed for the Q650 in it (The one that plugs directly into the 68040
> socket.) Dunno, but somehow it's got a PPC 601. Period.
> 
> Terry

The Apple System Profiler told me this machine has a PPC 601 running at
72 MHz. This chip is supposed to only run at 66 MHz. It's been over-clocked!

I thought it was funny that this thing would run so fast, even faster
(seemingly so) than that god-awful 7200/90 I've got!

Life is good, and it just keeps gettin' better!

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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

[Allen Davis]

william ahearn wrote:
> 
> Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> > I thought I was "up" on Mac video stuff, but this card is ancient. I
> > have no clue about "AUI." Is it possible that its a combo video/ethernet
> > card??? I don't think so.
> 
> Let me understand this. You have attached a video
> monitor to it? AUI is an ancient form of networking.
> AAUI is Apple's version of it which was standard during
> the quad/PCI era. No, I don't think there was a combo
> ethernet/video nubus card. I don't think so either.

When I brought the beast home, I also had a trunk-full of those old 14"
Apple color monitors. I hooked one up to the machine this particlar card
was installed in. The video worked perfectly.

I just kept scratching my head and wondering what the heck the "cable"
connector was for. You may not even want this card. From what I can
tell, I think it only has 8-MB of VRAM installed on it, and it's all
soldered to the card.

The circuit board is clearly marked on the upper-right-hand corner,
"Asante Technologies, Inc."

This card has 4 relatively large disk-type capacitors and some HUGE
diodes (by today's standards). Upon really close inspection (under mild
magification) I see this card actually has two small adjustable
resistors (potentiometers). I have no clue about this card other than it
will drive a 13"-15" monitor.

Allen
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Re: hard-drive install problem

[Allen Davis]

DAMN, Pickle,

What ARE YOU? An alien or a cotton-picking disgruntled former Apple
hardware engineer??? I'd LOVE to have a peek at YOUR "Knowledge Base!"

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 19:14 -0500 on 14/08/02, otto hansen wrote:
> 
> >I have a 9gb full height 5.25 scsi HD that I am trying to install in my
> >Quadra 610
> 
> If it's really a 5.25" FH drive, how did you FIT it in there? :)
> 
> >im thinking this could be too little power for the drive? it takes 25watts
> 
> Good guess.  If that drive is drawing 25W to spin up, the PSU can't do it.
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Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

[Allen Davis]

I have to pipe in on this one!

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 19:04 -0500 on 14/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >I used to be like him. I still have an entire 8-foot tall bookcase
> >packed with nothing but Mac books. Alas, most of them now are quite
> >dated. Macintosh Bible, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Editions; Dr. Macintosh by
> >Bob Levitus; The Complete Macintosh; MacWorld's Mac Secrets, 5th Edition
> >by Pogue and Shorr; MacWorld Complete Mac Handbook + Interactive CD, 3rd
> >Edition, by Jim Heid. The list could go on for a long time. Plus all the
> >third-party User Manuals for Photoshop, Freehand, Illustrator, etc. It's
> 
> That's probably a far more useful library than what you could put together now
> :)

The listing I posted above just scratches the surface. I used to be
FANATICAL about buying Mac books. I've tapered off quite a bit in the
last few years -- much to my dismay. I should've kept it up. It's the
main reason I'm "behind the curve" on so much of the newer stuff.
> 
> >I also have a giant box of seemingly dead hard drives I've never been
> >able to toss out. I'm going to give the freezer trick a tryout. The
> >logic seems sound. I have heard of stranger things that worked in a pinch!
> 
> Give 'em a whack with the heel of your hand, too.  Stiction might be part of
> the problem (and it seems to me like freezing the drive would make this
> *worse*, not better).

I tried the freezer trick on an ancient 80MB HD that used to reside in
an SE-30 I had years ago. Lo & behold! I managed to retrieve every file
on it! They now reside safely on a CD-RW!

My wife keeps our deep-freezer so full that I'll only have room for 2
drives at a time, but I intend to try it on every HD in my "dead box."

Lemme say, too, that I was totally freaked out by the files I did
retrieve! Jeez! 1989, 1990, 1991!!! I was going through a divorce and
some really traumatic emotional upheavals in '91, and I kept a daily
journal on that disk. Recovering it and re-reading it opened some big
windows into what kind of condition my head was in back in those days. I
used to think it was such an ordeal raising three small children all by
myself. Today, I feel it was a blessing. I'm so happy to have that
journal back, even if I did have a screwed-up perspective on my own life
at the time!

I'm scared of simply "whacking" a hard disk. Something ingrained from
the early '80s about not exposing them to violence I suppose.

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Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

[Allen Davis]

william ahearn wrote:
> 
> Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> > I also have a giant box of seemingly dead hard drives I've never been
> > able to toss out. I'm going to give the freezer trick a tryout. The
> > logic seems sound. I have heard of stranger things that worked in a pinch!
> >
> You can also try -- first -- taking the drive and
> giving it a quick, hard palm jab. Sometimes that will
> loosen the heads. Again, this is a stop-gap measure to
> off-load critical (read games, old software, somebody's
> email addy) from old drives.
> 
> William
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> All Macs. All the time.

Ahh, you speak of using the "Cincinnati wrench!" A sharp slap and that
puts everything aright. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Already tried that!!! :-)

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Re: C650 boot time.

[Allen Davis]

the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 18:02 -0500 on 14/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >You ask that question as though I'm breaking one of the Laws of
> >Thermodynamics. Yep, I'm running Mac OS 8.5 on the 950. I had to install
> >it twice (some kind of disk error during the original installation).
> >
> >I can tell it runs ever-so-slightly more sluggish than it was with OS 8.1.
> 
> Wanna explain HOW you managed that?  8.5 is pretty much entirely PPC-only
> code...
> --
> 
> the pickle

To quote Homer Simpson (my hero) and his Dad, Abraham: "I DON'T KNOW"

All I can say is that Mac OS 8.5 is running, although slowly!

I don't believe this machine was ever upgraded to PPC. When I got it, it
was still running System 7.5.3 (what a DOG!), and I don't believe this
system should ever have been installed on this machine; I could be
mistaken; I've already wiped that System Folder out.

I can't find my own Apple/Macintosh database at the moment, but if
memory serves me, shouldn't OS 8.1 been the LAST version a 950 should be
able to run???

I defer to your knowledge and wisdom, but I still stand by what I said before.

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Let's Edit Our Subject Lines - We're Getting Off Subject

[Allen Davis]

william ahearn wrote:
> 
> Allen Davis wrote:
> >
> > David:
> >
> 
> > Incidentally, I've accumulated almost a dozen NuBus video cards that I
> > don't need. Sigma, SuperMac and Radius. One's a real odd-ball. It has a
> > regular video connector, plus something that looks like it accepts a
> > coaxial cable.
> 
> You sure that "video" connector isn't AUI?
I'm a newbie, but I'm on other digest/mailing lists, but I'd like to
suggest we stop just replying to e-mails and make our subject lines more
relavent. It isn't that hard, and on one list I'm on, they're almost
RELIGIOUS about it!

How about it?

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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

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I thought I was "up" on Mac video stuff, but this card is ancient. I
have no clue about "AUI." Is it possible that its a combo video/ethernet
card??? I don't think so. I think it just supports a two-page B/W
display IF you have the supporting software, which I don't have.

I've paid a great deal of money already to dump B/W-only monitors and
their video cards, and they were in perfectly good working order. The
video cards involved required specific, proprietary software, which I
couldn't find, and didn't think any would want. Maybe I was wrong.

This card in question is the strangest I own and know that still works.
Plug in a color monitor (if it's from Apple) and it runs. Thousands of
colors only. Nothing to write home to Mom about.

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> Allen Davis wrote:
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> > David:
> >
> 
> > Incidentally, I've accumulated almost a dozen NuBus video cards that I
> > don't need. Sigma, SuperMac and Radius. One's a real odd-ball. It has a
> > regular video connector, plus something that looks like it accepts a
> > coaxial cable.
> 
> You sure that "video" connector isn't AUI?
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Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

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Art wrote:
> 
> on 8/14/02 11:45 AM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > At 10:38 -0400 on 14/08/02, Art wrote:
> >
> >> I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ...
> >
> > Uh-huh...
> >
> >> disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours.  Take it out
> >> and let it thaw ... then remove all the condensation ... plug it in and see
> >> what happens.  If this does not work likely it is dead.
> >
> > Just wondering what this "cures" ... ideas? :)
> 
> You know pickle you may not be the only one that knows a little bit about
> Macs!
> 
> It does work for some drives ... when I heard it I said "let me try it!"
> You know what ... because I believed that someone else might know something
> that I didn't know ... I now have about a dozen drives that otherwise would
> have gone in the dump.

I know I'm a newbie on this list, but I've already come to the
conclusion that Pickle is a dilly (pun intended) of a Mac Guru par
excellent. Plus, I bet he's got some really good database material close
at hand 24/7.

I used to be like him. I still have an entire 8-foot tall bookcase
packed with nothing but Mac books. Alas, most of them now are quite
dated. Macintosh Bible, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Editions; Dr. Macintosh by
Bob Levitus; The Complete Macintosh; MacWorld's Mac Secrets, 5th Edition
by Pogue and Shorr; MacWorld Complete Mac Handbook + Interactive CD, 3rd
Edition, by Jim Heid. The list could go on for a long time. Plus all the
third-party User Manuals for Photoshop, Freehand, Illustrator, etc. It's
no secret that Macromedia and Adobe still haven't figured out how to
write a manual!

I also have a giant box of seemingly dead hard drives I've never been
able to toss out. I'm going to give the freezer trick a tryout. The
logic seems sound. I have heard of stranger things that worked in a pinch!

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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2002 23:12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << Besides, like I said before, I do get a kick out of refurbishing old
> Macs that don't cost me much, fix 'em up, rev 'em up as much as I can
> and sell 'em CHEAP to disadvantaged people I discover who want a
> computer but can't afford one. I've made more than a few Mac fans out of
> a lot of people. To me, it's one of the best ways to evangelize the Mac
> platform.
>  >>
> 
> That's why I read reports about buggy OSX with glee. The old systems, esp. 7,
> were pretty good, to me. Old PCs are really, really useless!

I'm sorry to hear that you felt that OS X was buggy initially. Our IT
department began beta testing it last year and let me participate. I
really like "Jaguar" (OS X 10.2). It's very zippy and has some really
coool features. My only gripe is that I can't run it all the time
because not all my apps at work are OS X-native .

About all I've got to work with in Jaguar is Photoshop 7.0 and
Illustrator 10. Whenever I need to use Pagemaker or Multi-Ad Creator,
it's a sure thing that I have to just boot up in OS 9.2 -- NOT Classic
mode. That will guarantee a crash.

Besides, the IT guys are scared to death someone else may need to use my
machine if I'm not there, and my boss would excrete a concrete chicken
in her ample panties if she sat down at my Mac and found OS X staring
her in the face. There'd certainly be something more serious than a
"kernal panic" if that happened!!!

Like you, however, I think there's plenty of life left in System 7.6 and
OS 8.5 & 8.6. For System Software older than that, it's okay if you're
using a Plus, SE or Classic.

I can't remember, but will System 6.0.8 run on a 512Ke??? I know it
won't boot from its hard drive (an ancient HD-20). Probably have to
stick to System 5.3 or whatever it is I already have for it.

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Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

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Kyle Kinsey wrote:
> 
> Well the playing with the c650s continue,
> 
> today a few SCSI drive questions.
> 
> 1. One drive I was trying to get to work doesn't seem to start when the
> computer is switched on. That is it doesn't initialise or make any noise.
> However when drive setup scans it it starts! Can I get it to start
> normally, if so how!

It sounds like you might have a screwy drive here if you can't hear it
spinning up when you start the computer. Then again, your problem may
simply be a dire need for a fresh driver or even a driver update.
> 
> 2. Another drive doesn't even start with running drive setup, is it dead
> or are there more tests I can do, I'm prety sure the drive is ok.

This drive sounds like it may be dead. I'd suggest letting TechTool Pro
have a look at it. I prefer it over Norton Utilites or Hard Disk Tool
Kit, but they might revive it if it can indeed be repaired.

This drive may be mechanically afflicted. If this is the case, you're
sunk. Once they begin sticking, it's just a matter of time. I hope
you've got everything backed up!

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Re: C650 boot time.

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the pickle wrote:
> 
> At 20:40 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >Kewel, DUDE! I'll give it a shot on the ol' 950!
> 
> Your 950 is running 8.5?
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> the pickle

Pickle:

You ask that question as though I'm breaking one of the Laws of
Thermodynamics. Yep, I'm running Mac OS 8.5 on the 950. I had to install
it twice (some kind of disk error during the original installation).

I can tell it runs ever-so-slightly more sluggish than it was with OS 8.1.

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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

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David:

Yes, I was lucky. Buying old Macs from IU is sometimes like Forrest
Gump's box of chocolate: you never know what you're going to get.

Incidentally, I've accumulated almost a dozen NuBus video cards that I
don't need. Sigma, SuperMac and Radius. One's a real odd-ball. It has a
regular video connector, plus something that looks like it accepts a
coaxial cable. Hmmm. If anyone's interested, they can have them for the
cost of postage. Oh, yeah, I've got a couple of cache cards for the Mac
IIci. Same deal. First come, first served.

BTW, I know all this stuff works. It's just leftover stuff I have no
where to put. I'm sharply curtailing my wheeling-n-dealing in old Macs
for the foreseeable future because my freelance business has gotten so
hectic I don't have time for it anymore.

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Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet

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Pickle:

I'm glad you wrote. I've always found crucial.com to be much cheaper
than the sources I've looked at in the ads at the back of MacWorld and
MacAddict magazines.

I'll say one thing good about crucial.com: I bought a faulty 32-meg DIMM
from them one time, and they sent me a 64-meg DIMM to replace it -- and
they did it BEFORE they actually received my returned bad DIMM. They
just took me at my word I'd shipped it back! NOW THAT'S CUSTOMER
SERVICE! They didn't have to do that, after all. And especially BEFORE
getting my bad DIMM back in their hands!

I still appreciate the links you sent before. Crucial.com is often
out-of-stock on really, really old Mac memory, but they seem to find it
if you ask them to.

I still say crucial.com is a good company to do business with.

Thanks again.

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> 
> At 19:32 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >Thanks for the links! I suppose I HAVE been buying some of my RAM in the
> >wrong places. However, for newer machines, crucial.com is tough to beat, IMHO.
> 
> The couple extra dollars they charge for newer RAM is probably worth the brand
> name, but they definitely aren't the cheapest source by any means.
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Re: C650 boot time.

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Pickle:

Kewel, DUDE! I'll give it a shot on the ol' 950!

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> At 19:46 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >It's been so long since I've worked in System 7.x or Mac OS 8.x, I can't
> >remember. But in OS 9.x, you can disable the RAM check during boot-up. I
> >don't think this trick works with anything before Mac OS 9.0, but I can
> >push Command + Option while selecting the Memory Control Panel, and I
> 
> It started with 8.5.
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Re: C650 boot time.

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Kyle:

You are absolutely correct. Your machine is doing a RAM check before it
proceeds with the boot process.

It's been so long since I've worked in System 7.x or Mac OS 8.x, I can't
remember. But in OS 9.x, you can disable the RAM check during boot-up. I
don't think this trick works with anything before Mac OS 9.0, but I can
push Command + Option while selecting the Memory Control Panel, and I
get an extra pane at the bottom of the window giving me the option of
switching the "startup memory tests" on or off. Nifty. Turning the
startup memory tests off boosts start time VERY significantly, whether
rebooting or starting cold.

In my own experience, I've never had RAM just go bad (unless I had a
massive power surge through a sub-standard surge protector -- that's why
I'm a big UPS fan now). I would suggest that anyone who uses this trick
turn the startup tests back on just prior to installing new RAM. You
could save yourself some grief. I HAVE bought bad RAM before -- and more
than 2 or 3 times.

In addition, if you've recently zapped your PRAM, your machine might be
confused as to where to look for its startup disk. Open your Startup
Disk CDEV, select the disk you want to boot from, then restart your Mac.
That will put things right if that's the root cause of your problem.

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> 
> Hey,
> 
> Still fiddling with the c650s (a different one to the one that blew a fuse earlier)
> and I put 2 * 32 mb simms in it and now it really takes quite a while on power on
> before it starts booting (ie when the video springs into action)
> 
> Quick question, is this normal, does it check the memory before starting video?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet

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Pickle:

Thanks for the links! I suppose I HAVE been buying some of my RAM in the
wrong places. However, for newer machines, crucial.com is tough to beat, IMHO.

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> At 18:42 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >Do you say this in a good way or a bad way???
> >
> >I've found their 68k RAM prices ridiculously low!
> >
> >Have I been shopping in the wrong place???
> 
> Unless they've dropped them by about 50% since I last checked, yes, you've
> definitely been shopping in the wrong place.
> 
> Compare these price lists:
> 
> http://ramseeker.com/scripts/sortModelDetails.php?modelId=25&sortSize=64mb
> 
> 
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Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet

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Pickle:

Do you say this in a good way or a bad way???

I've found their 68k RAM prices ridiculously low!

Have I been shopping in the wrong place???

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> 
> At 17:57 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote:
> 
> >I highly recommend going to www.crucial.com. I buy all my memory from
> >them. Their prices can't be beaten, and they ship lickety-split. Just go
> 
> Yes they can.  And their prices for 68K RAM are ridiculous.
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Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet

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I recommend www.crucial.com for all your memory needs. I've recommended
them to dozens of people. I've always gotten a rock-bottom price (which
is always lower if you order online), plus, they ship very, very
quickly. Good company.

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David Pierce wrote:
> 
> >I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem
> >internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a
> >router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to
> >have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't.
> >Suggestions?
> >
> >Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for
> >these machines?
> 
> The 580 is a 68040, so that's a piece of cake. MacOS 8.1, Open Transport,
> Configure the TCP/IP control panel according to the instructions provided
> by the router software. (Probably something along the lines of; Always
> Active, Connect Via Ethernet, Get IP from DHCP Server, and a DNS Server
> Address or two)
> 
> The 580 will use standard 72 Pin Simms. Some have two slots, some have one.
> I bought a 32 MB module a while back for $14. Try macsolutions.com. Service
> is a bit slower that some, but not horrendous, but I always get what I
> order.
> 
> The 520 has no Ethernet, you say? Gimme a minute. Okay, it does have an LC
> PDS slot. Check on eBay for an Ethernet card compatible with a LC, LC II,
> LC II, 475, 605, 476, or Performa 520. It also has one 72 Pin SIMM slot,
> and wil use the same memory as the 580. Sith the 25 MHz 68030, I'd uses
> System 7.5.5 (Free!) and install Open Trasport, then configure it the same
> as the 580.
> 
> Actually, if you feel a craving for speed, 7.5.5 works quite well on 68k
> machines, so you could use it on the 580 as well. It's only on the PPC macs
> that the buggy 68k emulator causes constant type 11 errors.
> 
> Have fun.
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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

[Allen Davis]

Sorry, I'm not made of money. I completely lucked into the 180-gig SCSI
disk. I frequent the IU computer auctions and "dump." You can often buy
an entire palette of supposedly "junk" Macs for $5-$10. It's easy enough
to piece together at least 4 or 5 working machines, which I then sell
for $25-$75 each.

Anyway, I bought a box of four Q840 AVs, and while trying to crank them
up and popping their covers to explore their innards, lo and behold! I
FOUND the 180 gig drive inside of one of the boxes. That particular
machine's motherboard was TOTALLY FRIED.

I mentioned that I wish I'd bought a faster hard drive when referring to
it. Duu... I was thinking of a couple of other hard drives I did buy
new. They're also IBM. I didn't mean to dis this HD too much. It was
almost a FREEBIE, after all!

I'd like to buy a new G4 tower. If I had the money to buy an eMac, I
could certainly scrape enough money together for a low-end tower and
have much more horsepower.

Besides, like I said before, I do get a kick out of refurbishing old
Macs that don't cost me much, fix 'em up, rev 'em up as much as I can
and sell 'em CHEAP to disadvantaged people I discover who want a
computer but can't afford one. I've made more than a few Mac fans out of
a lot of people. To me, it's one of the best ways to evangelize the Mac platform.

In addition, my wife LOVES her Q840-AV. The only thing she uses it for
is e-mail, but she seems intrigued by it's audio/video capabilities
(which aren't being used). Take that back, she's got a little Sansui
stereo amp and my Bose 301 speakers hooked up to it, and she uses it for
a CD jukebox while she's doing her freelance work on a Pentium III.
[Don't jump on me for that. She's a Deputy County Recorder who does
freelance title work at home on the side. Her machine has to be a PeeCee
because the software she has to use is proprietary. She hates that
machine, the application, the interface, and the people who cooked up
that crap!]

She was thinking of getting me the G4 tower until I caved and bought the
9600 and souped it up with a G4 processor and other goodies. What I'm
really hoping for at Christmas this year is a set of Peavey drums!!!

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David Pierce wrote:
> 
> >My "new" file server is a Quadra 950 a friend from West Virginia gave to
> >me for the price of shipping. It has 128 megs of RAM, a 2-gig and a
> >180-gig internal hard drive. I also replaced the floppy drive with an
> >internal 24x CD-ROM drive -- much more useful than a floppy, anyway. I
> >also have an external Zip drive attached to it.
> 
> *knocks palm against side of head*
> 
> I'm sorry, did you say 180 GB SCSI Hard Drive?
> 
> Just checked pricewatch, they do exist... but they are at least $999!
> Yikes, why not just buy a new eMac to use as a server. You probably aren't
> kidding when you say "Mac-Poor", but even an eMac could outpace the 9600
> you have, and now we know you have (had?) the $$$.
> 
> *guilt trip*
> 
> Spending money like that on hard drives while your wife chugs away on a
> Quadra? Shame on you. You should buy her an iMac for Christmas, and if you
> don't celebrate Christmas, you should buy her one anyway. :-)
> 
> */guilt trip*
> 
> Yipes.
> 
> -Dave

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Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet

[Allen Davis]

Hi Mark:

I highly recommend going to www.crucial.com. I buy all my memory from
them. Their prices can't be beaten, and they ship lickety-split. Just go
to their website and follow the pop-ups to locate your make, model,
etc., and they'll pop up a page with a quote. By the way, if you order
online, you get an additional discount. Swet.

Hope this helps.

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Mark wrote:
> 
> I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem
> internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a
> router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to
> have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't.
> Suggestions?
> 
> Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for
> these machines?
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Re: Laserprinter keeps getting lost

[Allen Davis]

I'm writing to reply to both this e-mail and the one I posted about CD
burning before. Forgive me if I forget certain things.

Let me say this, first and foremost: many of our Mac problems and
solutions are necessarily anecdotal. We're not getting ALL THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEMS IN QUESTION. I was only replying as to how
I dealt with things on machines similar to those in the problem.

I've found that burning CDs on a 700 MHz G4 tower could be solved by
slowing the burn speed down to the minimum, and walking away while it
did its work.

I don't know exactly WHY this doctor is losing his printer whenever he
reboots his Q650, either. It occuurs to me now, too, that he could just
reconfigure his network. I was only offering solutions I'd known to be
useful to myself in the past. Believe me, I don't think I'm any kind of
guru or "answer man." I just didn't see anyone else offering possible solutions.

I think I offered good advice; and since it was to a doctor, I think it
was particularly appropriate: it did no harm. Sure, he might have to
reconfigure a thing or two, but I stand by what I said. If it's wrong,
then I am sorry. Maybe you do have a better answer. I meant no harm; I
just know what I've done in the past. I keep a detailed notebook about
my problems and refer to it everytime something goes awry. There isn't
enough money in the state of Indiana that could buy that book from me.

Maybe I've gotten way too behind the curve, but I'd like to know what an
"AT address" is" (as opposed to an "IT address"). Maybe there's some
techology I've completely let get by me without notice. I hook
everything on my network up a TCP/IP protocol. I don't have any problems
getting OS 7.6 machines talking to my 9.1 Macs.

Listen, I don't have a thin skin, and don't want you to think I do. But
if you have info I should read, I'd love to have the source. I know that
sounds harsh, but I really don't mean it to be. I am simply curious --
nothing more.

I used to work in IT with Macs, but that was back in the Dark Ages when
Scully was still at the helm at Apple. I've loved the new products from
Apple (although I think they're over-priced). The engineering shows
genius, the products are still behind the curve -- Apple could do better.

Steve Jobs still wants to sell us BMWs when what we want are 1969 GTOs
that the working man can afford. Apple can do it.

Dell's doing it. Why can't Apple?

So sorry, I've digressed. Can someone direct me to the proper formum for
this type of bitching??? I've got a thing or three to say about this
Dot-Mac crap.

Allen
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Clark Martin wrote:
> 
> At 9:22 AM +1000 8/13/02, Dr A.P. Whichello wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Amongst other things, my Quadra 650 is the localtalk bridge machine between
> >my ethernetwork and my personal laserwriter, so I can print from all the
> >other computers. Lately, at every power up of the quadra, the laserwriter
> >"cannot be found," but going to the chooser finds it straight away. Is it
> >something simple (eg pram battery going flat) or is it more sinister? I've
> >already tried the usual quick suspects (zapping pram, rebuilding desktop
> >etc.) TIA,
> 
> I don't know why a machine would be loosing track of the LW.  It
> shouldn't be due to the PRAM battery.  While it does contain the AT
> address of that machine Chooser should be remembering the LW by it's
> name.  If it's the Q650s PRAM battery you are questioning that might
> cause problems.  LocalTalk Bridge is kind of funny in how it works.
> Basically it allocates another AppleTalk address (Network and Node)
> on the Ethernet side for every device it sees on the LocalTalk side.
> 
> When I was using it I encountered a problem with an AT address
> conflict between the pseudo Ethernet address of the LT device and
> another Mac on the Ethernet.  If I booted the bridging Mac first it
> would complain about an address conflict and LTB would quit when the
> other Mac started up.  If the other Mac was started first LTB
> wouldn't load, I think with another  error message.  Normally
> AppleTalk addressing is self adapting but clearly LTB isn't.  I fixed
> the problem by forcing the AppleTalk address of the other Mac to
> another address using the AppleTalk control panel in Advanced mode.
> 
> I realize this doesn't solve your problem but it might give you some ideas.
> --
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Re: Laserprinter keeps getting lost

[Allen Davis]

Off the top of my head, I'd try the following:

1) Try re-installing the printer driver software itself.

2) Since you already mentioned the PRAM battery/zapping PRAM/rebuilding
the desktop, I can only suggest you trash anything called "Chooser
Prefs" or "Printer Prefs" and restart. You may need to manually
re-locate the printer driver once again, but it should be the last time.

3) Trash your Finder Preferences file (System Folder: Preferences:
Finder Prefs), then restart your machine. You may have to reconfigure a
thing or two, but it shouldn't take you long.

4) Try another cable(s).

This is the order I'd try things.

I hope this helps.

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> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Amongst other things, my Quadra 650 is the localtalk bridge machine between
> my ethernetwork and my personal laserwriter, so I can print from all the
> other computers. Lately, at every power up of the quadra, the laserwriter
> "cannot be found," but going to the chooser finds it straight away. Is it
> something simple (eg pram battery going flat) or is it more sinister? I've
> already tried the usual quick suspects (zapping pram, rebuilding desktop
> etc.) TIA,
> 
> Adrian.
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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

[Allen Davis]

My question is who really needs a floppy drive today, anyway? I mean,
there's the Zip drive, which holds the equivalent of 70 floppies (high
density). How many files can you put on a floppy anyway? I think they're
okay if all you need to do is transfer text files via "sneaker net," but
other than that, floppies should be coasters today.

Sure, I have floppies myself -- boxes and boxes of them. But the only
machines they ever see the inside of are my old 512KE, my Plus or my
Classic -- and then only when I pull them off their decorative
bookshelves to just goof around or kill time.

Killing the AV part of an otherwise perfectly good Q840-AV is
SACRILEGE!!! Jeez, Louise, the AV capabilities FAR OUTWEIGH the
usefulness of a floppy drive!

Just my two cents' worth.

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> 
> >I have tried three known good floppies in my 840av and none will work. I
> >believe it is a motherboard problem. This is a spare machine but could be
> >useful in a pinch. I have changed out the MB from another 840 and the floppy
> >then works.
> >
> >Anyone know how to get a floppy to work with a MB problem? Is there anything
> >I can try or do to get it to work? Nothing ventured then nothing gained...
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Byron
> 
> That would be a dead floppy controller.
> 
> Got a soldering iron?
> 
> If you don't mind losing the AV part, a motherboard from a slightly slower
> Quadra 650 or 800 will also suffice.
> 
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Re: CD burning on a Q950

[Allen Davis]

If I might pipe in with an opinion, please allow me to submit the
following. When burning CDs with a Q950, if the burner software allows
for slowing down recording speed, then by all means, do it! Burn at the
lowest speed possible, and of course, with no other applications running
in the background. I've made a wheel barrow full of high-tech coasters
by trying to burn at 16x and even 8x. 4x should be about right.

As a matter of fact, it's not really a bad idea to just restart the
computer before you burn any CDs at all. That way you know your RAM is
clean and unfragmented. This is just my two cents' worth, but its also
been a sad, repeated experience as well.

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> At 10:18 -0400 on 12/08/02, Robert J. Johansen wrote:
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> >I know I need Toast or the equivalent, but which version?
> 
> 4.x would be best, but OWC had 3.5.7 for about $5 a while back, which might be
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Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK

[Allen Davis]

Byron:

I have a similar problem that has me scratching my head. I've also got a
Q840-AV that my wife uses as her main Mac here at home. It won't work at
all with ANY floppy drive. I can unplug the floppy drive and it works
just fine. Plug one in, try to boot, and you get the "chimes of death."
I think it's the controller circuitry on the motherboard that's to blame.

I'm one of those people who is constantly "Mac poor." I buy every old
Mac I can find, whether at auction or through want ads. Most of the
time, if I can buy multiple copies of the same model, I'll bring 'em
home, and try to "marry up" all the guts wherever possible to make a
single good machine. Then I sell them to disadvantaged families who'd
like to own a computer but can't afford to buy one. Besides, this is a
darn good way to keep these people from wandering into the PeeCee camp.
In fact, I've even converted a few families away from the Wintel world
to our camp.

Currently, my lineup includes a PowerMac 9600 which has 512 megs of RAM,
a 500 MHz G4 processor from Sonnet, a Rage Orion 128 video card with 32
megs VRAM, a Firewire/USB combo card, a very, very fast 2960 SCSI card,
internal Zip drive, external Jaz drive, 20-gig tape backup drive, and
two internal hard drives -- one is an 18-gig IBM SCSI drive, the other
is an 80-gig drive, also SCSI, and also from IBM. I wish I'd bought
faster drives to take advantage of the speedy SCSI bus I installed.

My "new" file server is a Quadra 950 a friend from West Virginia gave to
me for the price of shipping. It has 128 megs of RAM, a 2-gig and a
180-gig internal hard drive. I also replaced the floppy drive with an
internal 24x CD-ROM drive -- much more useful than a floppy, anyway. I
also have an external Zip drive attached to it.

The Q950 replaced twin Q700s I'd had for eons. Having all my artwork on
one hard drive is so much more convenient and faster than spread across
two separate machines. Besides, the 950 runs circles around the 700s.

I've got a PowerMac 7200 and 7300 in the bedroom closet just sitting
there. I should be kicked really hard in the butt for EVER buying that
7200 dog. Frigging processor (a PPC 601 @ 90 MHz) is soldered to the
motherboard. I know Sonnet makes a G3 and G4 processor upgrade for the
machine, but the muscle and horsepower would be lost on that machine.
The upgrades plug into a PCI slot. Plus the system bus is a joke.

The 7300 is a half-way decent machine. Has the beautiful unfolding
desktop box design, and the processor is easily upgraded. Has a ton of
RAM slots and can use memory interleaving for a nice speed boost.

I've got may 8-10 other Macs in a spare closet. They're mostly Quadra
700s, or Mac II ci models, but I remember having a working Mac II cx as
well (also a dog -- its ROMs weren't 32-bit clean).

I've got my original Mac 512K (E), Plus and Classic adorning the lower
shelf of a bookcase here in my office at home. I fire them up every now
and then. I still love a few of the old games that won't run on a newer
machine. I find it so hard to believe I ever got any work done on them.
I've been using Pagemaker since it was still in beta. I still have
Pagemaker 1.0a installed on the 512K (E) and still have Pagemaker 3.0 on
the Plus, and Pagemaker 4.2 on the Classic.

I'm a recent newcomer to this mailing list, and this is my first post to
it or anyone on the list. I've had a bad case of antique-itis for almost
two years now. There are a ton of perfectly useful Macs out there that
are in danger of being scrapped. A Mac doesn't have to have a PPC chip
to be useful or productive.

I hope I haven't "talked your ear off" completely! :-) I'm just a little
enthused about finding this list. After reading all the posts for the
last several days, I'm convinced you guys are a really great group of
people. Everyone is so eager and willing to help everyone else out they
can. The only other group like that I'm aware of is the bunch I shoot
bowling pins with. You can be in a very heated competition for the lead
with the guy right next to you, but if you have a problem, he's the
first guy there to help you out.

Thanks for letting me rant.

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Byron Gardner wrote:
> 
> I have tried three known good floppies in my 840av and none will work. I
> believe it is a motherboard problem. This is a spare machine but could be
> useful in a pinch. I have changed out the MB from another 840 and the floppy
> then works.
> 
> Anyone know how to get a floppy to work with a MB problem? Is there anything
> I can try or do to get it to work? Nothing ventured then nothing gained...
> 
> Thanks,

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