Re: [q] FPU Swap?
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 14:22 -0600, Dennis McCormick wrote: I use my Q800 for almost everything. I travel with a 280c which doesn't have an FPU. Could I add an FPU by swapping the processor in the 280c from a 68040LC to a 68040? The 270c used a 68030 (no LC) so heat shouldn't be a problem. Thoughts? Dennis in Wisconsin The short answer: Yes. It'd work fine. The long answer: Good luck finding a 68040 in the proper pin package. It's not the standard socketed 68040 like in a Quadra. Also, it's not socketed at all so you'd need either a lot of soldering irons or whatever device one needs to solder chips. AFAIK the only Powerbook to use a full 68040 in that package was the PB 550. These are quite rare outside of Japan and would be a crime to kill one for a Duo. Still, 280c boards are cheap so if you manage to find a 68040 in the right package, have at it and let us know how it goes ;) You'd quite possibly have the world's only 280c with a full '040. I doubt a 68040 would be much or any hotter than a 68LC040. Scott -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Quad 700 users, can two or more quads be yoked together?
Dwight Hines wrote: I have two quad 700s and would like to yoke them together for seti and other types of intensive cranking. Anyone doing that? d It's been a couple years, but I remember downloading and playing with something that purported to be a 68k multiprocessing setup. It had a strange name like Hen and Chicks or some such... I'll have to go dig up my Powerbook I was playing with it on and see if it's still on there. The main problem is it'd require anything using it to be recompiled with its libraries, and as far as I could find at the time there hadn't been anything done. I've done a fair bit of googling without turning it up, no idea if I'm remembing the name at all right :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: [q] Program for 68040 emulation?
Clark Martin wrote: OS 9 running in Classic mode under OS X can still run 68K code. Any Mac OS on a PPC machine will run 68K code. Not all 68K programs will run on PPCs or under certain OS versions but this is usually due to the program not being well written. The one problem I could see is that the 68K emulation on PPCs reported the processor to be a 68020 so if the code has to have a 68040 you might be stuck. Is there any actual documentation on it emulating a 68020? I've read this in several places, although I've also read it emulates a 68040. I've also read it emulates a 68LC040 and relies on the PPC FPU which is slow in emulation, or something. I know I've run 68k programs on my PPC that require 68040 that work quite well, so I've always been a bit dubious about the 68020 emulation. It also seems like it'd be odd for Apple to do that when the whole reason for the emulation was maintaining compatiblity for recently-developed and widely in use apps. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i run one as a server i am actually typing this on it it is my main web/email server as well as for ssh connections. anyways i just leave a keyboard plugged into it with a penny and a dime on the power key to make it turn on in case of power outages. it works marvelously well you should consider it. Yeah, I did something similar for awhile, but power outages were rare ane it's on a little old UPS I picked up cheap that helps most things. Mine's running web/ssh/email/DNS/telnet and occasionally IRC quite well with Debian Linux. It's very quick and usable as long as you stay out of X, but even X is usable in a pinch. Certainly isn't bad for a machine I got for free :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions
Ken wrote: snip - I believe the machine is one of those that needs the power switch on the keyboard to start it up. Ken It's not. I run one as a server without a keyboard or mouse attached, it starts up fine from the front button. Although I've about broken my button off the logic board, so I may have to resort to the keyboard one :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Player for .mpg
Bill Neill wrote: I need a player for .mpg. I see that quicktime player is only for power mac. Any help soon for Christmas. Depending on the actual format, Quicktime will either have to do it, or maybe the Mac version of WMP if there's even a 68k version of it. Video playing options are pretty limited on 68ks. However, it'd be very unlikely for any Quadra to be able to play it at any useful framerate/size. Would be far better off trying it on a faster computer. Scott -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: hot plugging adb
Philip Stortz wrote: i don't remember which, but as i recall there was one mac who's driver chips were damaged by hot plugging adb peripherals (i know you aren't supposed to, but it does work on most macs). Supposedly, you're not supposed to hot-plug ADB on any Mac up to the PB G3 or some such thing. However, I've done it constantly on everything back to a Classic, IIci, and IIgs and never had any trouble. Call me a daredevil, but eh :) So, all in all, probably won't hurt anything but there is that risk. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Software for 68k
Woolf wrote: Hi. I have an Performa 630CD. I'm new and I want to know if there is a list in the internet for 68k-programms, because I never know, what version of a program I need for my mac. I have macos 8.1 installed. thanks. Wolf. Although it's really intended for the Basilisk II Mac emulator, there's a good bit of stuff at http://mes.emuunlim.com . Since the B2 emulator is pretty close in specs to our Quadras, most of it is relevant. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Acrobat Downloads
Terry Graham wrote: Dear Dana, Queen of the Download, Having the new luxury of broadband, I offered to go get Acrobat 6 for a dialup friend. Went to the Adobe Acrobat downloads page but the end results are .dmg, generic-looking files or .bin. . . neither of which I've been able to open. The Window's ones have the suffix .exe, in my download manager, so it's not that I hit the wrong link? Signed, Bewildered. :-0 .dmg files are the Mac OS X equivilent to the various Disk Copy images. I'd be pretty surprised if there's a 68k compile of Acrobat 6, but could be I suppose. The .bin file should be a standard binhex, try drag and dropping it onto Stuffit 5.5 or higher. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Acrobat Downloads
Terry Graham wrote: Hey Scott, snip Re. the .bin, it seemed Graphic Converter in combination with Stuffit Deluxe 6.0 was busy opening it but in the end a corrupted file message -51 came up. I'll try the drag and drop. Thanks, Terry Many files downloaded off the internet have lost their resource forks, rendering them generic to the eyes of the Mac OS. Usually it's smart enought to figure out .bins should go to Stuffit, or worst case, pop up the application choosing thingy with Stuffit as an option, but occasionally other things wil override that and mess it up. Fortunately, .bins are designed to avoid damage to the underlying Mac files. Dragging and Dropping is the best bet, it'll force it into Stuffit. It might be better getting the .bin to your friend rather than what you'll get out of it, it'll much more nicely compact and all in one place. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spam blockers (was Re: SpamEnder)
Yeah I have spam too, but I am the Secretary of a club and the main contact person for it, also I subscribe to lots and lots of email lists and I get email from people on those same lists. I don't I am a candidate for one of the SPAM blocking apps, well unless I want to simply not have a lot of my legitimate email. :-} Don't necessarily need to give up hope. I've been using Eudora 6 since it came out, which includes some nice spam filtering stuff. It false-positived a few mailing list posts at first, especially short ones where the ad footers were longer than the messages, but with a bit training the accuracy is very nearly 100% with very little missed. Of course, this is somewhat not helpful for someone on a Quadra as there is no 68k version of Eudora 6, but it's a darn good program otherwise. Mozilla Thunderbird's appears to be similar in function but I haven't had a chance yet to really test it. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 7.1 in ROM on Q660AV/840AV?
At 01:36 AM 9/28/2003, you wrote: In my search for answers to my VRAM questions I downloaded the Apple document, Centris_660AV_Quadra_840AV.pdf On page xxiii under the heading Software Overview it states, The Macintosh Quadra 840AV and Macintosh Centris 660AV are supplied with essentially identical versions of the Macintosh System 7.1 software, in ROM and on the internal hard disk. I know that the Mac Classic has OS6.03 in ROM and one can boot from it. Do the 660AV and 840AV have a similar arrangement with OS7.1 in ROM? Or did Apple just mean that they ship a CD-ROM with the machine when they wrote in ROM? Jeff Walther Hmm, never seen that particular document before, but I've never seen any indication my 840AV has anything special in ROM. Would be neat. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: hi
At 10:13 PM 9/26/2003, you wrote: I am also new to the Quadlist, having just obtained a Quadra 610 too. I would suggest maxxing RAM and VRAM before plunging for a PPC upgrade. (IMHO). I would also like to pose a new question: What OSes are available for the Q610? I currently have 8.0, but would be much more interested in Linux if I could get a distro and version that would work. For some reason I remember a problem with the Q610 having a 68LC040 processor? Quite frankly, with today's prices, it would make much more sense and be faster to buy a cheap PPC rather than find an upgrade card for the Quadra. Or, if you really like the case you already have, you can drop in a 6100 board without too much difficulty. It'll run from 7.1 up to 8.1 just fine, as well as Linux. My 610 already has a full 68040 in it, most of the Quadras did, so it should run it without a problem. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Compatible/ CD-ROM
At 10:08 AM 9/25/2003, you wrote: Well, I got my little Quadra/DOS Compatible up and running. I installed 7.6.1 on the Mac side and got Windows 3.1 installed on the PC side from some old floppies my brother-in-law had. However, I can't get the PC to recognize the CD-ROM. It works fine from the Mac OS. Anybody have any experience in these things? thanks bob You'll need to get a CDROM driver, the oakcdrom.sys from a Win98 boot disk should do fine. Open up the config.sys on the Windows side and add this to the bottom: device=c:\oakcdrom.sys /d:mscd This is assuming you have the oakcdrom.sys on the main C drive, which is as good as any place. Then open up autoexec.bat and add this: mscdex.exe /d:mscd You might have to modify that mscdex line depending on where your copy of that is and whether it's there at all. If not, google around and you'll find it. Once that's done, reboot the PC and it should be in the File Manager this time. Note there are some issues with the 32 bit file disk access that you might see in the 386 Enhanced control panel in Windows, best to leave it alone if it works. If you get immediate bluescreens when you try to use the CD ROM, go in there and turn it off. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Compatible/ CD-ROM
At 05:59 PM 9/25/2003, you wrote: I don't think Windows had generic, all in one CD ROM drivers until Windows 98. You had to get the CD driver from a third party. This is the case, however the all in one driver works fine all the way back to DOS 3.3, and probably earlier. It's readily available all over. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC475 video adapters
At 01:20 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote: And all along I've been rewiring the IBM-style VGA monitors to accept the LC-475/Q-605 video connector.. Not surprising considering that I'm on 496$ disability per month. If you only ever plan to use it on a Mac, that's certainly a fine alternative. Probably cleaner too. I do a lot with both so permanently hacking up my monitors isn't an option :) Oh, to be back in the days when monitors had removable cables. I wonder why they don't do that anymore. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 DOS was (No Subject)
At 08:43 AM 9/18/2003, you wrote: All you need for dos is command.com, available for free many places on the internet. But you also need to prepare the drive, configure the Master Boot Record, and there are also a couple hidden boot files (MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS) that are required. Just sticking a copy of command.com on a disk won't make it bootable. Also, unlike Apple, no versions of MS-DOS are really free. There are some other DOSes like DR-DOS that are, and even run Windows from what I've read, but no MS-DOSes. Doesn't mean they're not available, but, eh :) Win95+ doesn't require a preinstalled DOS. It'll do everything. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 DOS was (No Subject)
At 09:41 PM 9/20/2003, you wrote: If I remember right -- copy sys a: c: is what makes a drive bootable ( floppy to hard drive ) Not quite. It's either format /s c: , assuming you're booted from a floppy disk with format on it, or you can sys c: from a: if you have sys.com on board. I'm an old DOS geek ;) Makes you appreciate Macintosh all the more. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 DOS was (No Subject)
At 11:46 PM 9/20/2003, you wrote: A drive may only be made bootable at FORMAT time as much of the DOS system is unmovable. Except for the sys.com command, which moves it ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
At 12:39 AM 9/21/2003, you wrote: snipbut I know that there's no Ethernet connection on the computer. Is it possible to connect the AppleShare port up to that? Or am I SOL as far as getting it onto a reasonable (i.e. non-dialup) internet connection. You could just get a $5-10 LC PDS ethercard for it and plug it in ;) LC475s and their equivilents (Performa 475, 476, and Quadra 605) are probably my overall favorite Macs. Especially when clock-chipped to 33mhz with a full 68040 dropped in. Portable, snappy, maxxes out at 64 or 128 megs of RAM (68 or 132 to be picky), and runs up to MacOS 8.1 and Linux/BSD quite well. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC475 Stuff
At 01:09 AM 9/21/2003, you wrote: Excellent. Now here's another question: I'm not sure if the monitors would come with the desktops. If not, would I NEED a mac monitor, or is there an adapter I can get to change the 2 row 15 pin connection to a 'standard' pc variety SVGA connector? Joseph Smithee iBook! | This is one of the Macs that works fine with a garden-variety adapter. And quite well at that. As I've used mine under console for so long I'm blanking on the exact maxes, but with max VRAM I believe it maxes out at 1152x870 but is most useful at something less so you don't need a really huge one for it. Though it does look pretty awesome having the flat little Mac with a monitor wider than it is stuck on top ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
At 03:11 PM 9/15/2003, you wrote: I recently found a Quadra 610 DOS Compatible at a local thrift store (for $1). It has MacOS 7.6.1 on it and a small 500 meg IDE drive. snip Thanks, Bob You'll need to use the Floppy eject command, which is Apple-F while under the PC I believe. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Minimun MacOS8.1 boot-file-list
At 02:35 PM 9/3/2003 -0300, you wrote: Hi, does anybody know what is the minimun files that I need to boot w/MacOS8.1 doesn't matter if is not fix in 1 floppy disk, sure not. Thanks! FM. Absolute minimum is going to be the Finder, the System Suitcase, Text Encoding Converter, and the Appearance Extension. If you use the Disk Tools set of stuff, even less, but it's not quite a full 8.1 Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
At 05:35 PM 9/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: Do the Duo's have to have their keyboard and mouse plugged in in order to work correctly? Windows/DOS gets panicky if it doesn't have it's precious keyboard plugged in, but I think Macs are smarter. I am thinking about converting a Duo 280 into a tablet computer by taking out the keyboard and the trackball and flip the screen over. After that I'll use the floppy adapter for the keyboard/mouse. Thanks, all! -- Duos, and Macs in general, work fine without their keyboards attached. I made a portable file server out of a naked Duo motherboard with a HD stuck on top, as well as a Desktop Duo by sticking an otherwise naked motherboard on a dock connector. Worked great. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Software Site
At 01:55 AM 7/11/2003 -0700, you wrote: As far as I can tell this site is mostly PC games, in what way is it Mac releated much less a Mac Quadra type of site? It's not immediately apparent, but there is a Mac site there too, http://mac.the-underdogs.org . And yes, it is mostly games. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Can't remove CD-ROM from Performa 630.... help!
At 02:09 AM 5/26/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi again Don't really know if this is appropriate to this list or not - fully prepared for a bollocking from the nanny, in any case. I have an LC630 into which I've stuck the logic board from a 6500. The board presently only has 48mb of 5v 168 pin RAM - 1 x 32 and 1 x 16 -and is going well, presently waiting for 2 x 128 sticks from a fellow eBay member(reasonably priced). I know these will work but will only be recognised as 64mb sticks, taking the RAM up to 128, which is supposed to be the max anyway for this board. The old 630 case is now running 8.6 on a 6 gig hard drive, coupled up to an NEC 17 multisync monitor, through a Lindy adaptor. I've had nothing in the way of power supply issues so far, but don't think that would have been the case if I'd tried a 6400 board. I've no intention of pushing my luck with any pci cards using a one slot riser. This all seems too easy - can anyone point out the fatal flaw? Will also try to post this to the Mac-UK list. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards David At the risk of being included in the bollocking, I'll answer and say it should work fine. The 6500 motherboard includes the 3.3V line onboard that the x400 requre from the PSU, so it would just be a matter of capacity. If you really are just going to stick with what you have, with maybe a memory update, should be fine. If you started putting G3 upgrades and stuff in it, you might have trouble. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Which is beter in a Quad, OS 7.6.1 or OS 8.1??
At 10:40 PM 5/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: This whole thing is getting pretty, um... old. MacOS 8 is slower, much slower on a 68k, no matter which way you, um... look at it. Much slower than MacOS 7. If you want your computer to um... really show its age, then use MacOS 8. Otherwise, use MacOS 7. On my faster '040s, such as my Quadra 840AV, 8.1 is only very slightly slower than the 7's. So minimally that it's worth it to me. Now on something with a 25mhz '040, maybe I might not, but with enough memory on the faster '040s the slowdown is barely noticable. I do run 7.1 on my Duo 280c, however, because it is noticably faster than even 7.5.5 with no real loss of features. Um... And MacOS 8 on my 6100/66 does not seem anywhere near as slow as it does on my Quadra 800. It feels snappy and perfectly at home, whereas um... on the Quadra it feels like the machine is constantly struggling. Any shortcomings from 68k bits in MacOS 8 are entirely, um... invisible even on the slowest of the PowerPC machines, in my experience. The 6100/66 is, by clock speed alone, quite a bit faster than the fastest '040. Combine that with the faster overall processing of the PPC, plus the bits of PPC code there are in 8.1, it's quite natural it would be faster. The 68k bits in 8.1 are naturally transparently emulated, and although the 6100/66 would have one of the slower emulators it's quite likely it would match a 33/40mhz '040 for most things. If there was a way to hack out the PPC bits from 8.5 and stuff them in place of the 68k code in 8.1, it'd be even faster, but overall 8.5+ adds enough while being more PPCish that they tend to even out, or end up slightly slower. Anyway, one of the interesting phenomena of human experience is perception of speed. There are people that are perfectly happy with OS X on a 233mhz Beige G3, while there are others who can't live with it on a 400mhz BW G3. Likewise there are people who are perfectly happy with 8.1 on a stock Duo 230 with 24 megs of RAM, while others find 7.1 (or anything) on a 40mhz Quadra sluggish. What works for one person might not work for another, what is a perfectly acceptable tradeoff of speed for someone is useless fluff for others. Um... Slow is how 8.1 feels on any 68k, and I can hardly believe that anyone would argue otherwise. See above. Just because it feels slow to you doesn't mean it's slow to everyone, or is unacceptably slow. Slow is a relative term. Slow is Windows 98 on a 386 ;) I'm in a bad mood now so nevermind my anti-sarcasim sarcasim. :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HTML - SMLHTMLzzzzzz
At 10:26 PM 4/5/2003 -0600, you wrote: The only issue I have is that NONE of the sites I have downloaded NS 4.08 (if thats the one after 4.05) have given me a copy that works (every one has crached my machine, a IIci with 7.5.5, 32M RAM and that nice cache card). Steve Do you have the CFM 68k Runtime Enabler in your Extensions? You'll need it for NS 4.08. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Virus SPAM?
At 10:45 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: Anyone else getting a bunch of PC virus SPAM (152K attachments) posing as Microsoft software updates? I'm trying to figure out if the infected source is someone on this list. It would probably have to be a PC user.The attachments are named either Update.exe or q.exe, where q... is a q followed by a gobblydegook of numbers. Jeff Walther I'm getting them semi-regularly. No clue who from, it's munged. I don't use Outlook or OE even though I'm on a PC, so I think I'm okay. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HD size in a Q630 (was: Hard Drive in a Quadra)
At 10:17 PM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: ATA = IDE = ATA-33 = ATA-66 as far as 68K Macs are concerned. AT is an old IBM PSU form factor, not a hard drive interface ;) -- Actually, if you go back even farther, the first AT Power Supply was used in the IBM PC AT, the first 80286-based computer. I think I still have on in my basement... :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: chime...nothing
At 07:14 AM 3/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: snip Any suggestions about where to start troubleshooting? Could the problem be the HD? Should I begin by replacing it? Thanks, Ted Try this: Turn it on, wait a few seconds, then turn it off and back on very quickly - probably as quickly as you can - and see if it turns on. If it does, you need a battery. Or you can just keep turning it on like that :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Most suitable system version
At 03:43 PM 3/15/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello listmembers I have a Performa 630 68LC040, 40Mhz. Anyone got any idea on what system to run on this machine, Should I stick on system 7 or upgrade to 8? At the moment I have 7.1.2p but I guess thats an old 7 system which lack much funtionality. Just curious /Peter At that speed, and assuming you have enough memory (say, 32 megs+) I'd give 8.1 a try. I ran 8.1 on my 40mhz P640CD with 128 megs of RAM and it ran very well. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra processor upgrade
At 07:42 PM 3/14/2003 -0600, you wrote: I might consider it. Right now, I'm looking to get my feet wet with many different ways to use Macs. If there are faster MHz 68040 processors, I'm interested. Clock crystals are available wherever electronic components are sold. Digikey, Radio Shack, etc. 33mhz chips are fairly easy to come by, they turn up fairly frequently. Also, there are quite a few 33mhz machines that would be something less than a travesty to pull a chip from a working machine from. There are a couple sources for 40mhz 68040, such as the Quadra 840AV, but if you went to the trouble and expense of getting one you'd be much better off just using the 840AV (Just in case you're not aware, the 840AV is the fastest (factory) 68k Mac Apple made. I have two of them, one is a 25-30 gig a month web server). 40mhz chips tend to be quite a lot more expensive. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spyware software for Macs?
At 03:21 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hm, I have next to null knowledge about Spyware and keystroke loggers on the Mac, can those 2 or 3 existing keystroke loggers be download without being noticed by the user or hide in other software? See, I want to start doing home-banking in the next days and I want to make sure that I am safe from pieces of data that hide on my harddisk and evade the 128bit password encryption by logging the passwords before they are encrypted. Is Spyware generally not a problem on Macs? Are there good apps to find and erase the few Spyware apps on the Mac? -Peter A 68k Mac is quite possibly the safest web-enabled machine you could use at all painlessly. I suppose an Amiga or RISC OS PC might come close too, but they're a bit rare and esoteric. There really aren't any viruses, exploits don't really exist, and what software there is is quite well documented and stable(ish). I don't really know of any spyware you'd need to worry about, with the possible exception of some Java stuff that might still exist. However, something like that would be extreme worst-case and wouldn't be something that could install itself. I've never heard of one anyway. Much like viruses, various spyware like gator are nearly exclusively Windows problems. Hold that Quadra up high and feel proud :) (But don't drop it. That'd be bad) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
At 08:55 PM 3/9/2003 +0100, you wrote: Thanks. I can understand that. I wonder if the number XC68040RC25B states that it is supposed to run at 25Mhz or if the 25 in the number on the CPU is just a coinsidence? regards Peter It does mean it's rated at 25mhz. The way I understand processor fabbing to go, a chip maker makes up a batch of chips, then runs them through various tests. The ones that work at lower speeds get rated lower, the ones that stay in spec at higher speeds get marked higher. This means that a chip marked for a lower speed might well run fine for general use at higher speeds, and is the basis for the entire overclocking bit. That said, if you're going to run a 25mhz part at 40, you definitely want at least a heat sync, and maybe even a fan. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I've got a Quadra 605 Coming
At 11:17 PM 2/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: How'd you get three RAM slots in a 605? :) Three LC475/Q605 machines ;) The IIe card works fine as long as you stick with 24-bit mode, which makes any RAM over 8 MB completely pointless. Well, if you're wanting to use Apple II software, shouldn't need more than 8 megs anyway ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Great uses for old Macs
At 11:10 AM 2/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: I'm the listmom, so I guess I can break my own rule against crossposting. I've been thinking of this for about a week now, and I really want to do a series of articles under the idea I Can Do It on My Low End Mac. Does it have to be running MacOS? I have a Quadra 840AV running Linux/Apache that did 30 gigs of traffic in a month without blinking. Limited only by the size of the pipe :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
At 07:49 PM 1/28/2003 -0600, you wrote: Hello all, I am new to this group and have joined because my girlfriend has a very old Mac and I'm wondering what it would be worth to a collector. Here are the specs: System Overview: Machine: Macintosh Quadra 950snip What do you guys think? If you would like to know anything else about this computer or would like pictures, just let me know. Thanks, Matt Unfortunately, a Quadra 950 isn't particularly collectable yet. They're not quite in the Very Old status yet :) They tend to go for $10-$40 or so, depending on exact configuration, but they're a brick to ship. Now, if it were an original, in box, never used, mint condition 128k Macintosh, on the other hand... ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's minimum requirement - a 486/66 with 16 megs of RAM. It ran, surprisingly okayishly. Upped the memory for 64 megs of RAM and used it for two years as a surfing station :) Just over this weekend I put it on my Toshiba Dynapad tablet PC (486/40) and once I get the memory up past 12 megs it'll be quite well. Despite it being Windows, even it can be trimmed and nipped and tucked to run decently on older machines. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re[2]: DOS Card
At 08:22 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm Win98 running on a 386? Perhaps someone here who can read German can take a look... It would be better than what I get from Web translators. The basic idea is to install it first on the 486 then move the drive over. Windows, in general, only checks the system specs on install and not on boot. I'd bet even XP would run on a 386 given enough patience. Anyway, this is getting a bit too off-topic, methinks, so I'll leave it at that. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 12:52 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: A few versions I know of: 1. 486 on a PDS card (or adaptor, or built in with some sort of extension, like the Performa 640CD.) These can, from what I read, *only* run DOS. Something about how they access the disk and/or hardware - though IIRC the Perf. 640CD has a sound blaster chip in it. Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Software piracy [was 840av]
At 02:54 AM 1/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: Probably not unless and until the owner had officially published a release. See PCSetup 2.0's release, for an example. As near as I can tell, PCSetup 2.0 is a case of the original company being bought out, plus having a license from Apple. It's clearly being released for free by the company, not just being distributed by people without any connections. In the case of a company's complete disappearance, I'm not sure who would initiate legal action, or what party would be the beneficiary. Copyright law is long and twisted :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Software piracy [was 840av]
At 08:36 AM 1/20/2003 +0100, you wrote: On this note, does anyone know the legalities of abandoned software? Is there an inventory anywhere of what software is legally abandoned? Also, what is the legality of software where the co. that produced it is no more, hence it is not available? Thanks, Yane Strictly legally, if a company hasn't released the copyright, and the copyright holder still exists, then it can not legally be distributed. If Sierra says we can't distribute Mystery House, more or less their first game from the early 80's, then it's not legal to distribute it. That's not to say they'll prosecute if it is, but strictly speaking it's not legal. I'm not going to get into a moral vs. justified vs. If they're not going to sell it, then why not argument, just speaking strictly. As far as I know, in the case where the copyright holder truly doesn't exist any longer and wasn't just bought by someone else (thereby transferring the copyrights in most cases), it would then be legal to distribute it. Abandonware is just a buzzword created by those trying to justify it. I'm personally on the side of preserving old, but useful software that isn't being sold anymore, but that doesn't change the fact it's still techincally illegal. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 840AV????
At 12:34 AM 1/12/2003 +, you wrote: Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. I've had a couple Macs do this when I accidently plug the SCSI cable into the mobo or HD upside down. First thing I'd try is removing the SCSI cable and see if you get to the flashing ?. If you do, plug it back in the other way. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AUX ?
At 04:04 PM 1/8/2003 +1100, you wrote: J Sand wrote: Is AUX Apple's version of Unix, and if so, where to find a copy of it? It's not hard to find but what are you going to do with it? snip I'm not trying to compare AUX to Debian as I really have no idea whether anyone, anywhere actually supports AUX and since I've never installed it I have no idea what its capable of. Linux and BSD are atleast actively supported for 68k macs and up and are also freely available. Well, the big thing about AUX is while being UNIX, it still supports 99% of System 7 compatible software, and even a good fraction of extensions/control panels. Unfortunately, it's now a rather old Unix, but it's still Unix. It also has the familiar, friendly Macintosh interface. It really is very much like OS X for 68ks, minus all the pretty stuff. It even has a / partition. It really was an innovation, if Apple had kept with it and developed it they'd have killed Win95 before it got anywhere. That, and dropped the price a bit. That said, for useful work, I can strongly endorse Debian. I am running two Quadra 605s (upgraded to 33mhz '040s) and a 840AV with Debian doing serving. The 840AV does about 7-10 gigs of uploading a week alone without breaking a sweat. I'm working on getting AUX running again on my 50mhz IIci, but am having trouble booting the installer and mounting the CD at the same time. It worked before, so I don't know what's up, but oh well... Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AUX ?
At 11:08 PM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: Just curiosity about all the things macs are capable of. I didn't know that they were even capable on running a Linux style of OS, but then again, any OS is just a bunch of assembler level instructions. I didn't know that anyone had written a Linux OS with the instruction set for the 68k series of microprocessors. Linux runs on just about anything, these days. Someone successfully booted it on the microcontroller of a laptop keyboard. It was a bit of a trick in the 68k Mac case due to the lack of hardware documentation for lots of the custom chips. The way it was done was using the MacOS to initialize and set up the hardware, then boot to Linux from there. Still no sound or floppy support, but it runs very well overall. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AUX ?
At 11:30 PM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: Looks like Linux is an OS that is going to require my attention to being a worthy thing to study. Thanks. John Definitely. My Quadras running Linux are doing what Microsoft says I need a much faster PC running Win2k to do ;) And all for free, too. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CAT 5 Cable?
At 02:34 PM 1/5/2003 -0700, you wrote: What is the difference between a standard CAT 5 cable and a X-over cable? John Technically speaking, they're both cat 5 cable as cat 5 is a description of the cable type. In general, though, you have a patch or straight-through cable that connects all the pins straight through. You'd use this generally in connecting a computer to a hub/switch. Then you have crossover cables which swap several pins to reverse the connections. This is useful for connecting two computers without a hub or switch, but usually limit it to two computers. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)
At 10:49 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: Yes. You *need* the heatsink for the full 040 if you want it to keep working longer than a few hours. Well, I dunno about this. I have a 33mhz '040 with no heatsink in my Q605 running at 33mhz that had a 40 day uptime until my landlady decided to go fiddling with the circuit breakers. That said a heatsink never hurts. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: '030 and '040 question
At 11:53 PM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: At 21:00 -0700 on 26/12/02, Dean Arthur wrote: Mac IIfx has 68030-40 MHz. Sonnet had a 68030-50 MHz clip-on. So did NewerTech; I have one but have never installed it because I don't have any instructions and it isn't obvious how to install it :) My IIfx, when I got it, came with some kind of 50mhz accellerator with a bunch of jumper wires running all over the place. Only problem was, one was loose, and in my attempt to reconnect it I only managed to disconnect quite a few more :( . So now its sitting in the basement, awaiting something to happen. I may try reviving it or something. Anybody got a cheap IIfx motherboard? :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: '030 and '040 question
At 12:18 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: Does anybody know what the fastest 68030 and 68040 chips were. I guess MicroMac used a 40MHz 68040 chipped to run at 50MHz. So is 40MHz the fastest for a 68040? There are 50MHz 68030 upgrades too. Are those rated at 50MHz? Anything I missed? Thanks Chris From what I've read, there have been some quite faster '040s and '060s than we've ever seen in Macs, as well as '030s. Of course we've never seen an '060 in a Mac stock. I have a 50mhz Diimo upgrade in my IIci, though it's rated at 40mhz. Not sure if there has ever been a real '030 faster than 40mhz or not. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How to get Stuff it?
At 03:02 PM 12/22/2002 +1100, you wrote: And .bin files just unpack them self do they? Not being funny, it been along time since I've had this problem. Most/all of the Mac Floppy Utilities for Windows will unbinhex things on the way to the floppy. TransMac, HFV Explorer, etc. If you have a binned version of Stuffit, you can copy it to a Floppy with the program and it will retain its Maciness unlike what would happen if you were to use a Windows program to decompress it to a floppy. It's just about the only way to solve the chicken/egg program :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How to get Stuff it?
At 04:17 PM 12/22/2002 +1100, you wrote: Thanks Scott, I have one or both installed and cant say I've used them to unbinhex things, having more than one mac usually means you dont have to. Dont .sea files transfer like sit or .bin files or do they need further packing to protect the Maciness before transfer from a pc? Geez Im getting rusty on this stuff. As long as it's stuffed, it's protected. Even .sea files are okay, though they won't self extract anymore. If they're dragged and dropped onto the StuffIt Icon, they'll still decompress. The real trick is getting a functional copy of StuffIt (5.5 is the last 68k version and generally the version you want to end up with) onto a Mac for the first time. I haven't used TransMac but with HFV Explorer, when you drag a file onto a Mac Floppy you get a dialog box that asks how you want to copy it. UnBinHexing it is one of the options, and what you'll generally want to do. I used to have a binhexed copy of just the Stuffit 5.5 executable somewhere on a server somewhere, it just barely fit on a floppy by itself (make sure it's a good floppy with no bad sectors, it just barely fits). Not sure where its got to. I'll look for it. It might be http://ncc1701.home.mindspring.com/stuffit.hqx but don't quote me on that. Oh, another thing, once you get Stuffit 5.5 installed, you'll probably want to track down a copy of DropStuff 5.5. Not only will it allow you to create archives, but adds extra funtionality to Stuffit like being able to do zips and cpts. One last note: If you're going to be stuck on a Winbox, you might check this out: http://basilisk2.cjb.net . Not only is it a handy way to transfer files, but often makes Windows a bit more bearable ;) It does need a 512k/1 meg ROM image, but you should be able to get that from your current Mac. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HTML graphics in email
At 11:40 PM 11/17/2002 -0600, you wrote: snip The techies don't see it because they mostly use text-only mail clients in *nix, but the non-techies running Office2000/XP get illegible messages and the mail servers are all overloaded with the crap. At work last week the exchange server went down, company wide, due to overload from one of those internet virus/worm thingies. Seems the corporate types keep passing it around. My non-techie friends were amazed that my 40mhz Quadra 840AV with $0 of software investment was still chugging away as my mail server while the expensive fancy exchange server had managed to blow itself up :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Monitor problem and PPC 6500/250
At 02:04 PM 11/13/2002 -0700, you wrote: Question, how would a dead PRAM battery affect the video? I do understand that the date/time would get lost with a dead battery, the system goes back to default, but the video? I am not trying to be a smart ass with this question, I am looking for new infomation to put in the old memory bank! Thanks !! - John A lot of older Macs, including some Quadras to make this on topic (605 is one of them), just don't start up with a dead/missing PRAM battery. I don't understand exactly why, seems to be energizing of certain circuits, but it just works that way. With most of them, if you turn them on, wait a few moments, then flip them off and back on very quickly, they'll power up and boot happily. Trouble is this is very difficult to make work on a 6500 due to the power switch arrangement. Although, I seem to recall from my 6500s, they don't have that particular oddity. They just have the date being screwed up. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Monitor problem and PPC 6500/250
At 03:41 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: Quadra 605, Performa 475, LC 475 - all are 68LC040-based; same (almost) main board, different skins. I've worked on all of them this past month. This is being composed on a chipped (68040/33) Q605; my test bench machine is a 68040/25 P475. yah, I have a Quadra 605 and an LC475, both clock-chipped to 33mhz with full '040s, being web servers. Both have 64 megs of RAM, 1 gig drives, and run Debian Linux :) Quite possibly my favorite Macs :) They both have the same identical board, just a jumper sets whether it IDs as a Quadra 605 or an LC475. As soon as I add some real content, I'm going to serve the System 7.1 Heaven thingy I'm working on on an LCIII running System 7.1, though I might move it to an LC475 type machine if it's too slow. Maybe I can find a Performa 475 and make a complete set ;) There was one on eBay as a complete system, but the guy selling it wasn't willing to toss/resell the monitor. Don't want to pay shipping on a monitor for a $2 computer. That is, if my poor DSL survives the traffic it's getting from the two servers and an ftp site, anyway :) Scott Holder http://angbandcvs.homedns.org - Daily compiles of Angband CVS http://angbandcvs.homedns.org:8081 - Vieuxmac Archive -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re(2): Top vs. Bottom Posting
At 11:10 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: snip Having said that, I will also note that the technology involved significantly affects the mode of response. The mail client I am currently using, Eudora Pro 3.0, is rather deficient in its options for response composition.snip If you think Eudora 3.0 is bad, you should see Microsoft Outlook. You hit reply, it basically set it up for a top post. You can't bottom post even if you wanted to unless you manually go through and add quote marks and such. I finally got Eudora 5.1 for Windows talking to the Exchange server at work, I'm hoping I can mostly or entirely eliminate my need for Outlook. I've been using Eudora since version 1 back in the day, and still love it. It's not quite the slim, elegant program it was, but it still beats most of the alternatives I've tried. Incidentally, I like bottom or inline posting ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Freeware MPG Player for P475/Q605
At 01:49 AM 11/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: Quadlisters, I'm looking for a freeware MPG player for Performa 475 running 7.1 or a Quadra 605 running 8.1. I need this for installation Monday on some systems at my son's school. I need it to play some MPG files generated on a Win98 PC. The files play back on the PC and on the Red Hat 7.2 GNU/Linux box that's acting as the store-and-forward file server, but the QuickTime (2.5) Movie Player (2.5.1) on the target Mac(s) fails with a message saying that the file is not a movie file. Any suggestions about how to get these files displayed? You probably won't. Those machines aren't particularly well-suited for video playing, especially anything terribly new. You might could get 5 frames a second at something small. If it won't play in the latest version of Quicktime that will run on 68ks (4?) then you'll need to encode it in an older codec that will. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Centris 610
-Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com] On Behalf Of J Sand Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:00 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Centris 610 I have recently accquierd two Centris 610's. I am new to Macs and wish to upgrade one of them and save the other one for spare parts as needed. 1) How much RAM can a 610 handle, is 68MB correct as the book says? 2x32+4 on board? What is a good name brand that has been a proven work horse. I understand that composite SIMMS I should stay away from? Based on the info on LEM, this seems correct. Some Quadras can use 64 meg chips, but it mentions some Centrises being unable to. 2) Is it better to upgrade to a seperate video card for graphics or just get more VRAM, I assume that is what the other two slots are for to bring it up to 1 meg. What would be a good choice for the 610 considering it's restrictions? Depends on your needs. The on-board video will likely be sufficient for general usage. Otherwise, go read the Nubus Video Card article on Low End Mac. It'll tell you everything you need to know. 3) At present is has a LC040 processor, would it be worth it to upgrade to a straight 040? Probably not, if you don't plan on doing anything FPU intensive. But, see next: 4) Is upgrading the clock crystal worth the improvement in speed? I'd say yes to this. I've clock chipped several Macs and it does make a difference. If you're going to clock chip it, it's better to replace the processor with one rated closer to the clock chipped speed. If you're going to do that, you might as well get a full 68040. Although 33mhz 68LC040s can be had for nothing or next to nothing, which might influence things. The main reason you might want an FPU is if you ever decide to get into any of the Linuxes or BSDs. They're not required anymore, but they smooth things out. Also, I think A/UX runs on a 610, I might be mistaken. 5) Is there a way to increse the cache RAM? Which cache? The disk cache you can increase from the Memory control panel. The L1 and L2 caches, no. 6) I am on 7.1. What is the highest level OS that this system can handle? 8.1. But I'd leave it at 7.1 unless there's an overwhelming need for something later. With a bit of work adding things in, it will run most things compatible on up to 8.1. Even stuff like Netscape 4.08 that claims to need 7.6.1. 7.1 is noticeably faster than even 7.5 and takes less memory with only very minimal sacrifice. 8.1 would run but probably not very well on the stock machine. I'd consider it on a 33mhz 68040 with enough memory, but again if there's not an overwhelming need there's not much reason. Head over to http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 and look at the 7.1 addon section. I'm working on a 7.1-specific site, but it's going slowly :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Centris 610
At 06:44 PM 11/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: Thanks pickle, I will try to locate me a 4.x photoshop somewhere. Alos, should I put a heatsink on the chip? They sure do help the PC CPUs from overheating? John Don't really need it unless you overclock it. Mac processors aren't like PC processors. My Athlon is a fast chip, but if I even just unplugged the fan it would burn itself up pretty quickly. My Quadra 605 being a moderately trafficked web server doesn't even need its internal fan :) That said, adding one certainly wouldn't hurt. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: FAQ update and fix
At 10:31 PM 11/3/2002 -0600, you wrote: hmm If someone could get me a dump of maybe just one of hte sections, I could have a partial mirror of it (from a Q610 running debian as a server) as long as I have room on my 9gb drive I cant do this however until I get a working DSL connection again at that point I may consider this (but probobly limited bandwidth or usercount, but that shouldnt be too big a problem considering the size of an old mac driver or software) I'm currently hosting the Vieuxmac archive, it would be fairly trivial to host more. Right now I have a teeny tiny HD in there but I have a Quadra 840AV with a 4 gig drive sitting waiting to have something interesting happen to it. I also have no total bandwidth cap, but I am on a DSL connection with a 384 kbps upstream so it's not really optimal. It'd work though. It's idle most of the day while I'm at work or sleeping so I do like putting it to good use. Got this Quadra 840AV sitting there too ;) Let me know, Scott Holder Daily Angband CVS Compiles: http://angbandcvs.homedns.org Vieuxmac Archive: http://angbandcvs.homedns.org:8081 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PC 100 RAm for Quadra?
At 12:46 AM 11/4/2002 -0800, you wrote: I have a quadra 630 and Performa 580CD, and I am planning to buy a PC 100 sdram upgrade 32 MB each. Can I possibly use these ram upgrade? BTW, I am ignorant as to the PC-66 or PC100 specs is for PC only? Pls. help me decide. Thanks for this site Henri Nope, won't work. Beige G3s and above can use PC66+ DIMMS, but they won't even fit in a Quadra. You'll need 72 pin simms for those. Still fairly readily avaiable from the likes of www.macsales.com and www.velocityupgrades.com . No affiliation with the companies, used both now and then with some minor issues but nothing that wasn't (eventually) resolved. Scott Hoder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Toast for quadras??
Versions 3 and 4 work quite well. I use 4 myself every now and then. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Anjou Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:22 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Toast for quadras?? Hello! Does anyone know of a CD-burning program to run on a quadra? Andreas -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Can a Performa 475 drive an AppleColor Monitor?
It is a DB-15. Db-15 is the name of the physical connector itself. It doesn't say anything about what's going through it. I could wire up some DB-15s to my car's spark plugs and it would probably work - But I'm not going to be able to control my car from a PC Joystick just because it fits. It's one of those annoying things of the computer world :) Trying to figure out whether a term refers to the hardware, the software, or the protocol :) Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com] On Behalf Of Spiritus ex Machina Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Can a Performa 475 drive an AppleColor Monitor? As I was forcefully informed, it's not a DB-15. ;-) The IIgs provides both composite video through an RCA socket and some sort of RGB monitor support through the DB-15 (sic) socket. As my original post said, I was trying to find out if the AppleColor RGB Monitor from a IIgs could be driven from an LC475/P475/Q605 mobo. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System Profiler Compatibility
The ASP from 8.1 claims to require 7.5.2. I'm still working on getting it running on anything less. I haven't tried the ASP from 8.5 on anything less, as it's PPC only and I tend to work with 68ks. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com] On Behalf Of c e Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:20 PM To: Quadlist Subject: System Profiler Compatibility Just curious; does System Profiler work on older versions of System 7 ... what's the minimum? --- Jim Arnott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple System Profiler will tell you the make and model. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MP3 player for 68k
At 07:09 PM 10/19/2002 +, you wrote: Are there any programs for the 840AV to play mp3's? I figured since it has a DSP, it would be able to offload something like mp3 decoding from the CPU. The mpegdec one works about as well as an mp3 player on a 68k will get, but no, there aren't any that specifically use the AV Mac's DSPs. Would be nifty. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
All Performas are not created equal. They're all a little different in a lot of ways, so just buying another Performa wouldn't necessarily be safe. As it turns out, the 630 is basically the same case as the 6200/6300 so it'll drop right in without a hassle. The 630CD is already essentially a Quadra, it has a 68LC040 that could be swapped with a 68040, making it a full Quadra. In fact, there is a Quadra 630 that is the same machine, more or less. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchells Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:11 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Performa or Something Else? RA: Thanks for your response and suggestions. Someone else suggested checking the Pram battery. But I tried to open up the computer case and wasn't sure how to. Any suggestions? Maybe I can get another Performa on EBay. Is a 6300 enough like a 630 that it would still run the IIcx software and Office 4.2? Could I get a Quadra - or something else more powerful? Thanx, R -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
The battery is the largeish box stuck to the motherboard with velcro. If there isn't one, where the square of velro is with a four-pin connector near it (space for four pins, one will be missing) is where the battery should be. The best two places to get a motherboard would be eBay and the swap list, though probably in reverse that order. Swap List is generally preferred. Hope this helps :) Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchells Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:24 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Performa or Something Else? Sp00ky: Thanks for the info. Do I have to open the case to get to the battery? If so, any suggestions? Thanx, RM- -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
The board you have is a 68040, you should see the chip on the board rather prominently. Yes, it would fit, as the 630 itself is a 68(LC)040 board. If you use any software that wants/needs an FPU, it would be a worthwhile upgrade. It should run all the software fine, at least, I can't think of any reason it shouldn't. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchells Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Performa or Something Else? Scott: So if I got a 68040 motherboard from someplace: 1. it would fit; and 2. it would run the IIcx and Office 4.2 software? Thanx, RM- -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Resuscitating an ST15150N
At 05:34 PM 10/2/2002 +1000, you wrote: Um, from the media you are installing from you can format the drive? I guessed most would be setup like Yellow-Dog before the install. Ah, I see. Probably not then, as in 68ks you have to boot MacOS first. If you could get another boot drive on the system, then yes, you could get into Linux and then format it. But you have to be able to get to MacOS first to boot into Linux. Also helpful to have network/internet access on the machine, as it makes downloading the necessary bits a lot easier. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Resuscitating an ST15150N
Well, you can format the drive during the install of Debian. All you'd need is Penguin-19 (68k equiv of Boot X), a kernel image, and the root.bin available from the site. Get into the installer, run through the first steps, and get to the formatting the drive part. After that you can just select the reboot and go from there. On the other hand, Linux is a lot of fun ;) Set up yet another Mac, a Quadra 605, with it yesterday ;) Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sque Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:41 AM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Resuscitating an ST15150N Power macs use bootx so I guess the format function is complied into the install.kernel. I have Debian 2.2, I should have a look at how it works on a 68k. Installing linux seems alot just to find if a hdd is good or bad, I was hoping Craig might find a installer that would zero the drive for him without the need of a linux install. If the machine is a 68k mac, there's no other macs and no access to a wintel box with a scsi card you may, as a last resort install a 68k linux to use another set of tools just to format the disk. Fun for a rainy afternoon. :) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Linux on Quadra 950
Well, I'm afraid I don't have any experience installing via the CDs. I went here: http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org and followed the instructions there, using those kernels and such. All I had to download was the Penguin booter, a boot disk image, and the base debs. From there I got everything else from the internet doing a net install. DSL makes that easy. If you're on some kind of broadband, that would probably be the way to go. If nothing else, you have access to the full array of formatting tools even there. You may have to do some arcane dd command to force a wipe, but it should be doable. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of craig o'donnell Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:21 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Linux on Quadra 950 snip 4. I tried everything I could think of the FTP them via Fetch but could not get that directory. So ... what am I missing here ... If we can get this far we can then proceed on this Seatools lark. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My first Hack
Of course, the brain-dead Microsoft Outlook I (am forced to) use here at work still splits it, even if I tell it to leave in optional line breaks ;) Scott Holder *kicks Outlook for good measure* -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of BrianH Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:17 AM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: My first Hack http://www.applefritter.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=hacks;action=dis play;num =1032846091 Put sellotape over the cut lines before you jig-saw, Mark - should stop the cut re-forming; hth -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Problem w/LC 630, OS 7.5.5, comm slot modem
Well, I went ahead and tried it, and it works. Kinda. First I tried copying everything that seemed to be related... But that didn't work at all. So, finally, I moved 7.5.5's Extensions and CPLs out of the System Folder and copied 8.1's in. Rebooted. Went fine from there, so loaded Netscape. Bomb, Unimplemented trap. Rebooted, went into the TCP/IP control panel and it gave me the Appletalk/MacIP error. I'm having trouble with Appletalk - See below, so I put it to Ethernet, and voila, it works. However, there is one somewhat biggie. I can't get Appletalk to start. Gives me various errors. It seems to be related to the Ethernet driver, I'm going to try swapping back in an older Ethernet driver to see if that helps any. So, looks like it mostly works. I'll report back if I get Appletalk running. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Pendarvis Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:05 AM To: Quadlist Subject: Re: Problem w/LC 630, OS 7.5.5, comm slot modem This makes a couple of people that are looking at the possibility of retrofitting OT from OS 8.1 to OS 7.5. I 'm curious how well this will work. (I'd do it myself if I had the files). I hope if anyone tries it, they will let us all know how it went. jim -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hello, Quadlisters!
As far as I'm concerned, the usefulness of a machine is what use you make of it. There are people using Road Apples quite happily, not caring what other people think or have said about their machines. It sounds to me like you have a perfectly nice setup. The Q700 was one of the first (if not the first) Quadra, which makes it somewhat dated by the later standards, but it's still a perfectly capable machine. Your QuadDoubler makes it even more so. If you've put as much work into painting it, I'd hang onto it and use it. Sure, a QuadDoubled 840AV might be faster, but it wouldn't be your customized machine either. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wade Rackley Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:50 PM To: Quadlist Subject: Hello, Quadlisters! Greetings! I have been reading the Quadlist for a little while now, choosing to lurk and learn for a bit before posting here. I see little to no talk regarding the Quadra 700 thus far on this list. Is this particular CPU just not popular here, or have I just not been lurking here for a long enough time? I mean, is it considered to be a less-than-good choice of '040 CPUs? I occasionally find references to various problems regarding the flashing question mark when booting. But, other than that, it just seems to be less popular. Why is that? Is there something about my 700 that I am missing? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 7.1 hacks and other stuff
Well, I recently killed my install of 7.1 (combined with severe filesystem corruption), and before I reinstall I'm working on exporting my changes into a ResEdit file so I can easily reimport them into my new install. I'd be happy to provide it on my web server once I get it going. The other addons and such are straight from the Favorite 7.1 Addons section on Gamba's site at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 , though I do have a few extras. I'll probably write up a page about it and post it too. Having your own web server is great ;) And, it's a upgraded LC475 (33mhz full '040 clockchipped to 33mhz) running Debian Linux, so it's even on topic for this list ;) The mystery card sounds to me like an ISA SCSI card. Would likely be PC only, though there are a couple rare prototype clones with ISA slots so who knows ;) Could also be PCI. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:28 PM To: Quadlist Subject: 7.1 hacks and other stuff I'd like to encourage Scott to document his hacks to 7.1; I myself have been contemplating downgrading from 8.1 and 7.5.3 rev 2. 8.1 seems to manage the memory better, but then again, it takes double the ram to run. 7.5 does have the Open Transport, and I'm hooking my mac's up to an ethernet network. But I'd love to get the OT and the Modern memory manager working for 7.1! snip -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 475 or monitor dead
Disconnected from the Power Outlet is the key phrase. 1 will get you 10 that the PRAM battery is dead. Try turning it on, waiting for the chime, then turning off and then back on fairly quickly. I'll bet it'll wake up. Run by your local Radio Shack and grab a battery, Should fix it right up :) Scott Holder At 09:43 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote: The LC475 in our classroom worked fine on the last day of school. I t was disconnected from the power outlet and sat idle over the summer, and today when we tried to start it up the Mac chime was heard, but the monitor (an apple color monitor - 13-14 inch?) stayed black. If we turn the monitor itself off, there is a small flash of light, but when on it is just dark. snip -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
At 10:23 PM 8/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: In a previous post, I erroneously said that my wife's Q840-AV was running OS 8.6. I was mistaken, and I beg forgiveness for my lapse. Her system runs OS 8.5. I had to do the install twice (maybe more, it's been a while). But it does run, and it ain't that shaggy. The only apps she runs are Netscape 4.76 and Office 98 (Word). The machine definitely has some kind of PPC upgrade. Even if you did manage to hack 8.5 to somehow run on it, Word98 and NS 4.76 won't run. Especially Word 98. Go to the Apple Menu and load up the Apple System Profiler. I can guarantee you it'll report something other than a 840AV. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Klez Worm
At 10:31 PM 8/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: Am I mistaken, or does this thing actually have the ability to infect and/or damage Mac systems??? Allen Nope, it's PC only. Only damage it can do to a Mac is flooding inboxes. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 800 + 650 + 8100 = 9550?
At 02:36 PM 8/30/2002 -0700, you wrote: Hum... I was using iCab in both cases - one the ppc version the other 68K. So I got compatibility that way :-) John P.S. I rather like iCab. Not sure though if it's just psychological - I like the idea that somebody is still coding for 68K's.. I personally have all sorts of troubles with iCab on most of my 68ks, although I don't do a great deal of surfing on any of them. Freezes, random crashes, various memory errors (the machines in question have 40 megs, most 64+, of RAM with what should be more than enough allocated to iCab) Whatever works for you though ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ASCII art
You might give this site a try: http://www.text-image.com/ Does quite well :) Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Any tips on making it work? I downloaded it, and it expanded into an apparently blank SuperPaint document. When it is placed in the SP folder I can't find any difference in the SP menus. It has been a long time since I have used SP but what else needs to be done? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 800 + 650 + 8100 = 9550?
The big thing though is the PPCs will surf at the same speed as the
Quadras running the latest and greatest browsers. So you get better
compatibility.
Scott Holder
-Original Message-
From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Niven
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Quadlist
Subject: Re: 800 + 650 + 8100 = 9550?
I've been dabbling in PPC's for the first time as I found a 6100/60 for
$5. Frankly, I found that web surfing with this (60Mhz PPC + 72Mb ram)
was no faster than my LC475 (25MHz 68040 +FPU + 36Mb ram). Both running
7.6.1 ('cos I like it), and both using the same GV 56K external modem.
Puzzled me. snip
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Re: 800 + 650 + 8100 = 9550?
Well, the 8100 is a PPC which gives it a big advantage over the Quadras. It is a first gen PPC, but it's still a PPC. As for the AVness of it, your best bet would be to try loading the Apple Video Player and see what you can get out of it. You could probably edit some home videos, but at a relatively low resolution/framerate. You won't be doing any 60FPS DV Video editing. As for parts compatibility, the things like memory, CD, and HD should all be fairly interchangeable. Floppy drives as well, though I can't remember if the 8100 used an auto or manual inject floppy. Make sure if you do any floppy changing they look more or less the same. The auto injects don't have a flip cover on them while the manual inject ones do. Any nubus cards in them are also most likely swappable. All three of them should have nubus slots. Much beyond that, however, is probably not swappable. Usages would be everything from web surfing to mp3 storage to whatever you usually use Macs with :) I've heard some Linuxes are even beginning to work. Incidentally, if you do go with the 8100, you'll want to move over to the 1st Powermacs list. Scott Holder -Original Message- From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Hahn Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:19 PM To: Quadlist Subject: 800 + 650 + 8100 = 9550? Hi everyone... I have a Q800 system (7.1, 8MB ram, no CD, 200ish MB HD) that had been collecting dust. Anyway, I came across a 650 and a 8100 and some other stuff that was just going to be thrown out- so I grabbed them. What I was wondering was- could I salvage parts from each of these computers like ram, hd and CD and put it into the 800? I thought the 8100 was an 800 at first until I looked closer, so I don't know if anything is compatible. They all turn on and work, but they have newer OS and it seemed (to me at least) that they ran slower than the 800.snip -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Interesting thought...
At 05:49 PM 8/16/2002 -0500, you wrote: If you had a quadra with linux, what'd happen if you pressed the interrupt switch? It says ok! followed by ... pausing, press NMI to resume ... on the next line when I hit command-power on my 840AV, which seems to be the equivilant. However, I haven't successfully unpaused it. Pressing it again repeats the message, then it seems to be locked up. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Want to upgrade my Quadra's find command ....
At 09:59 AM 8/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: Hi Everyone, I used to use Find Pro II a while back and enjoyed it; later I switched to version III and absolutely loved it! If you can't find it, you can grab the Find File Extension and Find File thingy from the Apple Menu Items from a 7.5+ machine and it'll mostly work on 7.1. Sure beats the built in. You'll have to select it manually though. Might work as a stopgap Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More RAM
At 10:20 PM 7/28/2002 +0100, you wrote: Actually I did stick some old PC ram in my quadra before. Am I right in thinking the RAM has to be 30pin SIMMs of 60ns. Will slower ram be a problem? I believe all Quadras used 72 pin SIMMs. Different models had different tolerances with the speed. LEM profiles have the specifics. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Internet filters
At 01:48 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: I am looking for an Internet filter for my daughters Q610 so her mother will let her send and reiceve E-mail all I can find out there is filters that require a 120 mhrz processor but as you know the Q610 is only 25 mhrz please help. Thanks :) If all you want her to be able to do is e-mail, then probably the best thing to do would be to just remove all the web browsers and other internet programs on the computer except an e-mail client. Eudora or Claris Emailer would do. Otherwise, the only real PPC upgrade would be a 6100, but that would max out at 66mhz. Probably technically good enough for the filters to run. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Internet filters
At 02:25 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: Val: Considering my limited knowledge, this might be difficult ..without upgrading your Quad to a Powermac. 5400/185-5500/225 mother boards make a real nice, upgrade. Jim Lunceford Except they won't fit. The 610 is in the 6100 style form factor, so adding a motherboard from a 5400 or 5500 wouldn't work. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Remote
At 11:55 AM 7/2/2002 -0400, you wrote: I recently moved my Performa 631 near my Sony TV. I noticed that the computer will turn on with the TV. This is interesting and I was wondering if there are any more operations that can be completed with a remote. Thanks, Josh The actual Apple remote has mute, power, volume up/down, channel up/down, Display (switches between full screen and window), TV/Mac (Loads/Quits Apple Video Player), Stop/Eject, Back, Play/Pause, and Forward. The last ones are for the CD Player, not sure what the equivalents on a TV remote would be. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630
At 08:49 PM 6/27/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi all Still need to know about my 630 what motherboards can i fit and what about the freezing out when i have a cdrom fitted. What would fit? Everything from some of the 68k LC motherboards (LC580, etc), the 5200/5300/6200/6300 slap right in without issues. I've also used a 6500 board in mine without issues, but I'm told that if you put too much stuff on the board the base 630 power supply might have problems. I've never had a problem though. The CD-ROM issues sound like a termination or software issue. If you boot off a floppy will a CD-ROM mount? Or can you boot off a CD? Also what modem works in these. In a base 630 or 5200/5300/6200/6300, any Comm Slot 1 modem. I believe these maxxed out at 28.8. In an x400 or x500, a Comm Slot II modem would work. These tend to be 33.6, though there are some 56k available. Thanks Victoria. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630 (Another Fellow)
At 01:46 AM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote: At 23:14 -0400 on 27/06/02, Ted Goranson wrote: Actually, the idea of a dedicated MP3 jukebox/player sounds even better. I could hook up a big scsi disk and (I suppose) some speakers. Only problem is that iTunes needs an OS that the quadra That, and you can't play MP3s - at least not with playlist support - on a Quad anyway. the pickle mpegdec2 will play a list of files if you drop a bunch on it. No way to control except quit though ;) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New to the list
At 01:32 PM 6/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: Im also new to the list, just yesterday and already I need someone to please clarify, is the pickle a bot or a real person, so I can either filter his posts to the trash or get off the list now because of his annoying snips. Unless artificial intelligence has come a long way in the last while, Pickle is definitely real :) A bit testy at times, but who isn't? :) He's also one of the more helpful people on the list overall. Give him a chance, and you'll probably won't regret it :) Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: VRAM - a lecture by Mark Benson
At 06:00 AM 5/27/2002 +0100, you wrote: I'm wondering then if this is reliant on the System version. The only PowerMacs currently in my possession are currently running 9.1 and 10.1, neither of which support 16 colours. I think 8.1 doeas on my 840av but is that the OS or the machine? May well be some of both. I seem to remember when I got my first Mac, an LCIII, it was running 7.1 and had the option of 640x400. Later on I upped it to 7.5.5 and lost that option. Now, this was when I was a Mac newbie so I may have done something else... Likewise when I got my 6500 more recently, it came with 7.5.5 and did have the 16 color option, but now at 8.6 it doesn't... Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)
At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. As to what works, the x200 and x300 boards should work without issues, the x400 boards are iffy, and the x500 board will work without too many extras on the board but will need a beefier power supply if you want lots of PCI cards or a G3 upgrade. My mostly naked 6500 board works, though I once disassembled the case to stick a PCI video card vertically to flash the ROM to Mac and it still worked fine. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?
At 05:59 PM 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? Works fine. Mine is chipped to 40mhz and the DOS card doesn't feel a thing. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: mp3 player under os 7.1.2 `040 m68k
At 11:45 PM 5/6/2002 +0200, you wrote: On Mon, 6 May 2002, Ronald Bos wrote: Well, I tried mpegdec-20 on a Q800, but I can't drop mp3's on the application (they 'fly back' to the finder.) I'm running os 7.6.1 on it. The mp3 file has a quicktime icon. Even when I try to open the mp3 using the file menu (in mpegdec), the mp3 doesn't show up in the file selection db. Suggestions?... Nothing: I've the same question! the same problem under macos 7.1.2 on a lc630! You may have to open up the mp3 file in Resedit and change the type and creator to mp3. You also will need the various drag and drop support files Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: mp3 player under os 7.1.2 `040 m68k
At 11:57 PM 5/5/2002 +0200, you wrote: Hi, does anybody knows if there are any kind of mp3 player and/or midi player that runs under mac os 7.1.2 LC630? (68LC040!) The only one I know of is: http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Abstracts/gst/snd/mpg-123-11-68k.hqx.txt It at least claims to need 7.5.2 elsewhere, but as long as you have Quicktime 2.1 or higher it would be worth a try Note: Take off the .txt to download the actual file. Unless you're running a 100mhz 68040 or something you'll have to use some of the downsampling options. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: mp3 player under os 7.1.2 `040 m68k
At 11:57 PM 5/5/2002 +0200, you wrote: Hi, does anybody knows if there are any kind of mp3 player and/or midi player that runs under mac os 7.1.2 LC630? (68LC040!) tnx Okay, last message, I promise ;) Here's a 2.0 version of mpegdec that supports drag and drop. From the looks of things it's considered the best 68k mp3 player. http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Archive/gst/snd/mpegdec-20.hqx Still not sure about 7.1 compatibility. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Binary conversion
At 11:56 PM 5/4/2002 -0600, you wrote: For a self-expanding copy of StuffitExpander 5.1.2 go to http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/4MACS/. Some Netscape users may need to hold down the Option key when clicking the download link on that site to prevent downloading a screen full of gibberish. dw The problem with that is downloading it on a PC will cause it to lose it's Self Expandableness. What you'll need is a program like HFV Explorer or TransMac. Then find an hqx encoded version and use the app to copy it to a Mac-formatted floppy. Should take care of it. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Excel viewer, 68k?
At 12:49 PM 5/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Was/is there an Excel viewer that runs on a 68040? Specifically my wife's pb520c: she keeps getting the occasional excel file from friends/work/etc that it would be convenient for her to view on her powerbook rather than having to be copied to my PC notebook. She doesn't want to edit the things, just look at and print them. TIA, Adrian Well, aside from finding an old copy of Excel, the only thing I could find was this: http://www.icexcel.com/ I can't see on the site whether it's 68k compatible, but the 1.0 version talks about being compatible with System 7.1 so it might work. I'd be worried that older versions of Excel wouldn't support the newer versions of Excel files, especially from the Windows side of things. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
