Re: [q] LC575 Network and Screen Issues

[Stephen Alexander]

Autosensing happens at layer 1 (hardware level), and a static address is layer 
3 (network). they're not connected. The autosensing issue is a hardware 
problem. Not to say there are necessarily no workarounds, but a static IP won't 
do it. Normally a device will havre a (hopefully documented) fallback default, 
so you might want to look into that and manually set the problem end to match 
the other.

Stephen

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Jason Greshes wrote:


Autosensing is mainly a problem with older Asante cards and you are spot 
on by using a T10 hub to get around the problem.
I dont have the hardware to test whether a static address can be used 
successfully to by-pass the hub

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Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)

[Stephen Alexander]

try emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone pays for that web page to be active, so 
maybe they answer email.

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Have a poke around http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/ it's a little hard 
to navigate but still worth the effort for tools/utilities, does anyone 
know where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs.

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Re: [q] neverending mac emulator problem...

[Stephen Alexander]

From an earlier post...
"The Mac n Dos list is a better forum for this topic than the Quad list."
Justin Zaza wrote:
i was under the impression that this list was most
appropriate... i know little about mac, or even
computers... all i know is, this list has provided me
with enormous help thus far!
thanks
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Re: [q] neverending mac emulator problem...

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surely there is documentation... which you could read...
Also, you might ask someone for help on a list to which the topic would 
be appropriate.

Justin Zaza wrote:
my starter disk, which I downloaded from emaculation,
has next to no room on it; about 9 MB. How can I give
it more room?
thanks
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Re: [q] quadra emulator not accepting system disks...

[Stephen Alexander]

there's not another option to select? what you're looking for is the 
hard drive... the install disk is obviously not what you're installing 
to... Also like the nanny said you'd be better off posting this on the 
other list...

Justin Zaza wrote:
Hello, 

my mac emulator is working, and i have the 6 system
disks for system 7.5...
and when I put the 1st one in, it loads it, says
"Welcome to Macintosh" and then 

"Welcome to System 7.5
Your Macintosh needs certain software to start up in
System 7.5"
etc. moving right along, I click "continue", and
then...
"System 7.5 Installation
The Installer cannot update the selected disk named
"Install Disk 1.
Please click Switch Disk to choose a different disk."
And under "Destination Disk" it shows "Install Disk 1"
and the "Switch Disk" option is faded, meaning I
cannot click it! So is the "Install" option.
does anybody know any solution?
thanks
Justin
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Re: [q] centris not booting up

[Stephen Alexander]

that won't work... it'll actually get marginally larger.
Blake Hanes wrote:
stuff it again
until you get it down to the size you need it 

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:39:59 -0800 (PST), Justin Zaza
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i have  captured a ROM image on my quadra, but i cant
get it onto a floppy because it is 4,096 bytes. i
tried to stuff it, but its still 1,800 bytes... any ideas?
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Re: [q] An old program...

[Stephen Alexander]

I am certain you could do this on a PC with one of several available 
emulators, though I am unsure about use on a newer mac. mail me offlist 
if you want to know more about the PC solutions.

Stephen
Justin Zaza wrote:
I have an old music notation program, (deluxe music)
which was made in '85, and it works on old macs,
system 7.5 and under, but not on anything higher...
Someone confidently told me that I could get this
program, (and/or the files I have for this program) to
work on a modern day computer, by getting an emulator.
He said that I could try opening it with various other
programs, and one of them may open it. Any opinions or
experience with this?
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [q] Something new

[Stephen Alexander]

I mean to say that gmail supports pop. i responded to the wrong message.
Stephen Alexander wrote:
gmail does that, if you can score an invite.
ManiacMac wrote:
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ability to many older email clients (Claris Emailer, Cyberdog, Eudora
Lite, etc) so that they can still be used to access email accounts that
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Re: [q] Something new

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gmail does that, if you can score an invite.
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require authentication to log on.
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Re: [q] PrinterError:fixing temperature malfunction

[Stephen Alexander]

sounds like you need a new fuser assembly. I think they are the same as
the old HP LaserJet fuser, but don't take my word for gospel. There's a
good site with more in depth info here:
http://lightconsulting.com/~thalakan/lw2f-notes.html

You'll notice the long list of other printers based on the same engine.
I am fairly certain that the fusers from any one of those will be usable
in your printer.

IIRC they are very easy to remove/install, just 4 screws and no
wrangling.

Good luck,

Stephen

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 23:49 -0700, John Niven wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> yesterday I picked up a LaserWriter IIf in what looked like nice condition.
> I hooked it up to my Quadra 950 and powered it up. Various lights flash, but
> it settles down to the paper jam and paper out lights flashing at the same time.
> 
> I queried its staus from the Q950 and it says:
> 
> "Status: PrinterError:fixing temperture malfunction"
> 
> ... it also says it's name is "Pookie" :-)
> 
> Anybody got a clue what's up?
> 
> John
> John Niven,
> senseamp,
> apple_john,
> MacAroon.
> 


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Re: [q] multiple users setup for 8.1 or7.5?

[Stephen Alexander]

I may be off base but I think it must be doable. I suspect At Ease can 
be configured to handle that stuff because IIRC when I was in HS they 
locked down the machines with a fairly early version which we were not 
able to floppy-boot to get around... Again I can't be certain but if 
memory serves (it doesn't always of course, and this was some 12 or so 
yrs ago) this should be doable.

Anyway it bears experimentation.
Cheers,
Stephen
Chuck Bush wrote:
That has always been a disadvantage of At Ease. Once you have booted the
machine with another startup disk, you can go into the preferences folder,
and throw away At Ease Preferences. All your passwords and settings are then
gone, and anyone can reboot on the main disk without any passwords. I've
actually liked that feature, because I have bought old machines with At Ease
protection, and I was able to change the password that way! Anyway, I know
of no way to protect from that oversight with At Ease itself, though I
suppose other products could protect from it.
Chuck
On 9/22/04 4:40 PM, "Mark Koan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How crackable is At Ease if you just managed to boot
from an external device, bypassing the startup disk
using keyboard combinations? I am looking for a way to
password protect from prying eyes...
Also, since we are on the topic, what's the most
secure web browser for a quadra? 


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Re: [q] multiple users setup for 8.1 or7.5?

[Stephen Alexander]

maybe with at ease?
Mark Koan wrote:
Is it possible to run a login screen like in 9.1
multiple users command for earlier OS?

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Re: [q] Help Identify OS 8.0 CD

[Stephen Alexander]

Not for resale means it was shipped with a mac most likely. The CD may be 
model-specific. Quadlist archives reveal a similar query and response from a 
couple years back:

http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/msg03234.html

I got a hit on U97073-052A which appears to be an expired page selling a full 
retail version of OS 8.

That's all I've got, sorry

On Sunday August 29 2004 11:45 am, Bill Beazley wrote:
> Can anyone identify these two OS 8.0 install CDs? Neither CD will boot 
> my LC 575, though both will install. Same story on my PM 6500.
> 
> 1. a mostly white CD "Mac OS 8" copyrighted in 1997. At the bottom of 
> the CD appears: "Version 8.0", then below that "691-1600-A", and below 
> that "U97073-049A".
> 
> 2. a CD, top third is white, bottom two-thirds is red, with "What a 
> difference 8 makes" on the left middle of the CD. At the bottom appears 
> "Not for resale", then below that "Version 8.0", and below that 
> "U97073-051A".

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Re: [q] translation needed

[Stephen Alexander]

I guess to tie it all together I should mention for the uninitiated that it 
takes a lot more processor and memory to run graphics quickly which is why 
the machine is mentioned as being mostly only good for CLI. Of course if the 
program is being executed remotely and only displayed locally, as is possible 
with X-windows, less resources are being used locally and thus you would see 
a speed increase if you are using the machine for display only and not 
program execution.

Cheers,

Stephen

On Monday August 23 2004 09:10 pm, Stephen Alexander wrote:
> here's a quick rundown for you:
> 
> cli is comand line interpreter, as you'd use in DOS or unix, as opposed to a 
> GUI like Mac OS
> 
> kde is a window environment which runs on unix-type systems, of which linux 
> and BSD are members. It's an implementation of X-windows.
> 
> nix box is a reference to a Unix or linux computer. The way X-windows is set 
> up, you can run programs on one machine and have them display on another 
> computer's monitor. This can be done in a completely cross-platform manner, 
> so that as long as whatever machine you're displaying on can run some sort 
of 
> X-window environment you can display the output from whatever type of 
machine 
> you like. Exodus is one of those programs which will display X-windows on 
> macintosh OS. I haven't used it in probably 8 years but it was good then so 
> I'm sure it's great now.
> 
> hope this helps.
> 
> On Monday August 23 2004 10:35 pm, Dwight Hines wrote:
> > 
> > > Mainly only good for cli, I've run kde but its way to slow. Netbsd is
> > > not much better or worse. Some of the light wieght desktop managers
> > > are said to work well, if a little slow.
> > > 
> > > If you already have a nix box of some sort you could try a vnc client
> > > on the mac or Exodus which is rather excellent, even better if you
> > > know how to configure your firewall properly. :)
> > > When configured you can run nix programs at good speed on your quadra
> > > which is fun. Win4Lin runs well in a window, sometime I'll try
> > > Sheepshaver, OS9 on a unaccellerated quad, in a window. :)

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Re: [q] translation needed

[Stephen Alexander]

here's a quick rundown for you:

cli is comand line interpreter, as you'd use in DOS or unix, as opposed to a 
GUI like Mac OS

kde is a window environment which runs on unix-type systems, of which linux 
and BSD are members. It's an implementation of X-windows.

nix box is a reference to a Unix or linux computer. The way X-windows is set 
up, you can run programs on one machine and have them display on another 
computer's monitor. This can be done in a completely cross-platform manner, 
so that as long as whatever machine you're displaying on can run some sort of 
X-window environment you can display the output from whatever type of machine 
you like. Exodus is one of those programs which will display X-windows on 
macintosh OS. I haven't used it in probably 8 years but it was good then so 
I'm sure it's great now.

hope this helps.

On Monday August 23 2004 10:35 pm, Dwight Hines wrote:
> 
> > Mainly only good for cli, I've run kde but its way to slow. Netbsd is
> > not much better or worse. Some of the light wieght desktop managers
> > are said to work well, if a little slow.
> > 
> > If you already have a nix box of some sort you could try a vnc client
> > on the mac or Exodus which is rather excellent, even better if you
> > know how to configure your firewall properly. :)
> > When configured you can run nix programs at good speed on your quadra
> > which is fun. Win4Lin runs well in a window, sometime I'll try
> > Sheepshaver, OS9 on a unaccellerated quad, in a window. :)
> > 
> > cheers
> 
> 
> Need to parse this and make it intelligible for a wanderer in the wilderness
> like me.
> 
> So, please define the terms you use, like nix box and so on.

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Re: [q] Use Apple LWIIg as network printer for PC lab?

[Stephen Alexander]

the linux/netbsd w/samba and cups will definitely work with any level of windows 
supporting server message block protocol, which I think is anything past Windows 3.1.

Stephen

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To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [q] Use Apple LWIIg as network printer for PC lab?

On Thursday August 19 2004 10:16 pm, I wrote:

>> Hi, Y'All,
>>
>> The LCII/LC580 classroom network is gone. 
>> In its place, a PC lab. I have been asked if I can figure out how to use
>> the old Apple LWIIg workhorse as the network printer for the 20 PC's.
>> Can it be done?
>>
>> Of course it has to be done with little or no new money.
>>
>> 
>

A half dozen good replies on this and MacNetwork list. The articles I 
was referred to talked about Win2k OS. We use the now "old" win98 OS on 
our labs. Can this still possibly still work with Win98?

Thanks.  Jim


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Re: [q] Use Apple LWIIg as network printer for PC lab?

[Stephen Alexander]

I am not sure what you can do with MacOS, it has been too long. Here's an idea 
though: one option would definitely be NetBSD running samba and cups. There 
may be a linux variety that runs on mac 68k too but I can't recall.

Stephen

On Thursday August 19 2004 10:16 pm, Jim Raper wrote:
> Hi, Y'All,
>
> The LCII/LC580 classroom network is gone. 
> In its place, a PC lab. I have been asked if I can figure out how to use
> the old Apple LWIIg workhorse as the network printer for the 20 PC's.
> Can it be done?
>
> Of course it has to be done with little or no new money.
>
> Thanks.  Jim

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Re: [q] Hello All

[Stephen Alexander]

for what it's worth all my hardware is old and I spend all my time fiddling 
around with it anyway, even the IIsi and a pentium-133 still once in a while

On Thursday August 19 2004 08:35 am, Mat Schulte wrote:
> On 8/18/04 11:46 PM, "Robert Alpizar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just wanted to introduce myself to the list. My name is Robert, and I've
> > recently re-entered the quadra world. I just bought a Performa 575 to
> > help inspire creativity since that is what I mainly used back in high
> > school when I was editor of the paper.
> >
> > Anyway, just thought I'd say hi.
> >
> > Rob
>
> Ha! Isn't it funny how often we let ourselves think a surfeit of video RAM
> and dual G5's (or whatever the latest & coolest thing is) will make us
> better writers! I've found the opposite generally to be the case--the more
> awesome computer junk I have, the more time I spend fiddling around with it
> for its own sake, and the less time conjuring words. My LC 475 remains as
> full of poetic potential now as it was when I was amazed with it in
> college.
>
> May the best of inspiration be yours.

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Re: [q] 10/100

[Stephen Alexander]

It would make sense to use a crossover cable and go directly from one computer 
to another if possible. Any routing hardware/packet padding can be considered 
overhead which can tamper with your numbers (should not be too big a deal 
though as long as it's consistent).

The OS in question would be a big factor though, you'd need to make sure you 
have the same (and sufficiently high to expose any hardware bottleneck) TCP 
receive window on both benchmark machines. I don't know how to set this in 
classic macOS. In 'doze you gotta hack the registry, in *nix you gotta write 
to a /proc file. It may not be trivial to accomplish, but it's a huge factor 
that really can't be disregarded if you're doing TCP/IP throughput checking. 
It might make sense to use a (non-routed) protocol such as appletalk to 
measure throughput if you can find a way to get numbers from that type of 
transfer.

On Monday 19 July 2004 19:35, Powermac wrote:
> Not sure, any ideas?
>
> I tried a quick transfer from a PC setup as a ftp server, the 7500 and the
> 840AV. Speeds were very low (400K/sec to the 7500, and 300K/sec to the
> 840av). I used the same version of Fetch (ftp client) for both transfers,
> and I know the PC can dump at least a few MB/sec. I did see my router light
> up like a Christmas tree even though I used the local PC ip to do the
> connection (169.254.*.*) so it wouldn't connect through my cable modem over
> the net (which cant do more then 350K/sec anyway).
>
> If I use a PC for the source file I am stuck using TCP/IP (which is why I
> tried to test speed using an FTP server). Maybe I should just stick to
> transferring from Mac to Mac?

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Re: [q] 10/100

[Stephen Alexander]

OK, not a real problem as long as it's not malicious I guess

Cheers,

Stephen

On Monday 19 July 2004 13:21, nathan wrote:
> Yup.. But gleaning from the other LEM lists I belong to; it's a known issue
> tied to the mail server. Not LEM directly.. Kind of a minor pain to be
> regulated to the Delete Folder...

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Re: [q] 10/100

[Stephen Alexander]

I think yes: a quick google turns up several links for cards from farallon and 
asante

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=nubus+ethernet+10%2F100&btnG=Search

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Stephen

On Monday 19 July 2004 12:43, R. A. Cantrell wrote:
> Were any 10/100 NuBus nics manufactured for Macs?
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Re: [q] Re quadra 840 AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Oh well, not a big deal. This battery is not on the bottom, it's on the front 
edge about halfway up. I can touch the battery without removing the board, 
but to remove and replace it I would require fingers which are less 
sausage-like.

Cheers,

Stephen

On Monday 10 May 2004 16:19, Tina Holm wrote:
> It will probably _not_ work with a dead pram battery. On some
> Q800/840s you can actually get to the battery without removing the
> board, I've had a couple where it was in the bottom and accessible
> after removing any nubus cards that might cover it up.

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Re: [q] Re quadra 840 AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Thanks for this great/interesting info! I will check it.

Cheers,

Stephen

PS do you think it should work even with a dead pram battery or should I swap 
it for a good one just to be sure (that case design is a bear, you have to 
remove the logic board just to swap a battery)?

On Monday 10 May 2004 02:35, Gianlorenzo Masini wrote:
> Quite often 840 AV behave very strangely at boot: led and power supply
> turn on (and, of course, hard disk start spinning) however boot is not
> initiated. I have experienced that this condition can last for up to 15
> minutes before boot starts regularly ! In general, this strange
> condition occurs when the computer has been disconnected from mains for
> a certain time (regardless the status of the PRAM battery, the presence
> of NU-BUS cards, keyboard etc.). My guess is that some 'access
> conflict' occurs between the 68040 and the DSP preventing the first
> from taking control and start boot since I have never noticed a similar
> behavior on the otherwise similar Q800.
>
> My suggestion is to try to turn on the computer and wait... If it will
> start then buy it: it is a fantastic machine (especially when equipped
> with the Spigot power AV card for full frame full speed video
> acquisition on a 40 MHz machine...)
>
> Gianlorenzo

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

I actually did remove the card completely when I tested it on the onboard 
video (and reseated it after) but I will look into rasterops configuration, 
thanks for the tip!

Cheers,

Stephen

On Sunday 09 May 2004 20:22, Tina Holm wrote:
> At 19:09 -0500 09/05/04, Stephen Alexander wrote:
> >I think I am going to give up on this one...
>
> You should at least try reseating the graphics card.
>
> Had an old Radius card way back, that required holding the "t" key
> down to configure to the monitor and the Mac.
>
> Don't know if there's an obscure key combo for a RasterOps too. Might
> be needed if it's been sitting with a dead battery for a while.
>
> As for extensions, I didn't need any for my 19 inch RasterOps with
> the original RasterOps NuBus card attached to my Q800 running 7.5.3.
>
> BTW, bought an adapter when I moved on to my beige G, and am now
> running the ancient RasterOps from an EasyColor 1600/16 PCI card.
> System 9.2.1, still no extensions needed.

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

I think I am going to give up on this one... I'm betting on the last one at 
this point. I'm going to see about trying it with my trusty old 12" 
monochrome, but beyond that I think it's a lost cause. I didn't try reseating 
RAM but I am going to guess that it's a dead logic board based on the fact 
that it's in the Goodwill in the first place. (:

On Sunday 09 May 2004 18:29, John Kamimura wrote:

> How about zapping the PRAM?
> Did you try reseating the RAM?
> Is it possible the speaker is damaged?
> Damage to the logic board (leaking capacitors)?

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Again, I'm rusty, but should I not at least get a blinking question mark icon 
if the OS/Drive is bad? And if the monitor is bad I would have expected a 
BIOS boot chime. Pls let me know if I'm off base.

Cheers,

Stephen

On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:33, John Kamimura wrote:
> I'm guessing that it is hard drive/OS problem if everything has checked out
> OK.
>
> Do you have a spare SCSI drive with a universal MacOS installed to take
> with you to try with the 840AV? Or better yet a bootable CD-ROM? Maybe an
> old copy of Norton Utilities...
>
> Since the SuperMac(? - can't remember) monitor may need special extensions
> do you have access to an old Mac monitor with a DB-15 connector to use on
> the built-in video

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

And then he read the email that said the KB's not an issue...

On Sunday 09 May 2004 07:03, Stephen Alexander wrote:
> Cables are all connected, the HD and PS fan spin no problem. There is no
> boot noise and no video. I am going to follow up the previous suggestion
> when I get a chance and attach an ADB keyboard with the power button.

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Cables are all connected, the HD and PS fan spin no problem. There is no boot 
noise and no video. I am going to follow up the previous suggestion when I 
get a chance and attach an ADB keyboard with the power button.

Stephen

PS it's almost definitely a good buy since it's labeled at $35 and I know the 
manager (:

On Sunday 09 May 2004 00:26, John Kamimura wrote:
> Sounds like you were able to get the 840 started with the button on the
> front panel. Can you feel air being pushed out of the power supply fan? Can
> you hear the hard drive spin up? Yes - possibly the OS is hosed or the disk
> is damaged. No - HD could be unplugged or dead.
>
> Might want to poke around inside and investigate a little further to see if
> all cables are connected, etc.
>
> The 840 is a great little computer. Might be a good buy just for the parts
> so that when you find the working 840AV :-)
>
> Good luck
>
> J

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the 
opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete computer (at least 
it's better than the NetBSD-IIsi).

Anyone got a particular resource with a collection of this kind of info that I 
should know about?

Cheers,

Stephen

On Saturday 08 May 2004 20:43, Ken wrote:

> -
> I believe the machine is one of those that "needs" the power switch on
> the keyboard to start it up.
>
> Ken

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[q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

[Stephen Alexander]

Hi y'all, new to the list.

I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill 
store. I haven't bought it yet because of the following: I plugged it and the 
monitor (a rasterops w/rasterops nubus card) and turned everything on. It 
didn't boot, just gave me LEDs on monitor and computer. I swapped out the 
cmos battery for a brand new one but this didn't resolve anything, but I 
should note at this point that nothing is attached to the ADB. Anyone know if 
I need to have a keyboard and/or mouse attached to this? FWIW I also tried 
pulling the card and attaching the monitor to onboard video with the same 
results: nothing. no bootup sound even. Is this computer shot or should I 
have another go at it with a mouse/keyboard? Are there any other obvious 
items I should check? I used to repair these things when they were new, but 
not since... I am a bit rusty.

Cheers/Thanks,

Stephen

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