[Quantum Owners] Thermostat housing
Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help point me in the right direction with the thermostat housing, my old 1800 Zetec housing broke around the temperature sensor port when I was trying to change the sensor, I’ve been unable to find the same type with screw in sensors but there’s plenty with push in sensors that would fit. Question is which push in sensors would be compatible, many thanks Bill Sent from my iPhone -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/DB7PR06MB5960408B6C3029462E409E31E7EB0%40DB7PR06MB5960.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Don't forget there are a range of different coloured fan switches that switch at different temperatures. They are used on other Fords where the switches are in the pipes or radiator instead of the stat housing. From memory they are Black, Brown, Orange, Yellow, Green and Blue. Roughly in descending temperature order. Look on the Mk3 Fiestas, CVH petrol, Zetec petrol and Diesel and also Mk5 and Mk6 Escorts. Some are mounted on the radiator and some in a boss on the top hose. Don't bother looking on later cars or Mondeos, they switch the fan on from the ecu temperature sensor. Jim -Original Message- From: Derek Clews Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:20 AM To: Quantum Owners Forum Cc: Derek Clews Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Hi Bill, Sounds like a Saturday job there! Full empty, flush and refill before fault finding the electrics. On my CVH's the gauge seems to be well up before the fan cuts in. I have even thought of fitting a parallel manual fan switch. But to be fair, I rarely get that high and each MOT it cuts in at some point as the tester is running the car. (so no complaints) Derek On 27 Jan 2019, at 17:30, bill wrote: My other kitcar is reading high on the gauge but the fan never cuts in, investigations required to determine whether it’s the sender , gauge, thermostat, fan or fan switch, Pity the heater never gets any warmer. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jan 2019, at 16:28, Derek Clews wrote: Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Thanks for the tips and ideas, I used to have a manual over ride but haven’t put that back on since I changed the wiring and fitted a couple of relays into the fan circuit after frying a couple of fan switches due to it being wired direct inline with the fan. Our upcoming house move is delaying all my projects just now but early February should see it sorted Bill Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Jan 2019, at 11:56, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group > wrote: > > Bill, also check the fan earth wire. > My saloon had Huge overheating issues and I checked then replaced everything > but it still overheated, until my 'last roll of the dice' was to run a new > wire from the fan earth up to the battery. > > Problem solved. > > Chris G > > > -Original Message- From: bill > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:30 PM > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat > > My other kitcar is reading high on the gauge but the fan never cuts in, > investigations required to determine whether it’s the sender , gauge, > thermostat, fan or fan switch, Pity the heater never gets any warmer. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27 Jan 2019, at 16:28, Derek Clews wrote: >> >> Thanks All, >> >> As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? >> Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the >> old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move >> fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck >> open all the time. >> >> I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! >> >> Derek >> >> >>> On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. >>> Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into >>> liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various >>> 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little >>> now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought >>> some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about >>> 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then >>> the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k >>> miles, so just 35k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I >>> 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over >>> 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' >>> parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. >>> The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very >>> quickly. >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" >>> To: "Quantum Owners Club" >>> Cc: "Derek Clews" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM >>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat >>> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the >>> previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just >>> opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change >>> it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. >>> From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in >>> the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and >>> replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were >>> an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine >>> Ford, is it your experience they last longer? >>> >>> On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does >>> push you to renew the coolant! >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en >>> >>> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented her
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Bill, also check the fan earth wire. My saloon had Huge overheating issues and I checked then replaced everything but it still overheated, until my 'last roll of the dice' was to run a new wire from the fan earth up to the battery. Problem solved. Chris G -Original Message- From: bill Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:30 PM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat My other kitcar is reading high on the gauge but the fan never cuts in, investigations required to determine whether it’s the sender , gauge, thermostat, fan or fan switch, Pity the heater never gets any warmer. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jan 2019, at 16:28, Derek Clews wrote: Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 35k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the prepar
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Hi Bill, Sounds like a Saturday job there! Full empty, flush and refill before fault finding the electrics. On my CVH's the gauge seems to be well up before the fan cuts in. I have even thought of fitting a parallel manual fan switch. But to be fair, I rarely get that high and each MOT it cuts in at some point as the tester is running the car. (so no complaints) Derek > On 27 Jan 2019, at 17:30, bill wrote: > > My other kitcar is reading high on the gauge but the fan never cuts in, > investigations required to determine whether it’s the sender , gauge, > thermostat, fan or fan switch, Pity the heater never gets any warmer. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27 Jan 2019, at 16:28, Derek Clews wrote: >> >> Thanks All, >> >> As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? >> Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the >> old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move >> fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck >> open all the time. >> >> I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! >> >> Derek >> >> >>> On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. >>> Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into >>> liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various >>> 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little >>> now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought >>> some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about >>> 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then >>> the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k >>> miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I >>> 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over >>> 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' >>> parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. >>> The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very >>> quickly. >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" >>> To: "Quantum Owners Club" >>> Cc: "Derek Clews" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM >>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat >>> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the >>> previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just >>> opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change >>> it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. >>> From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in >>> the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and >>> replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were >>> an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine >>> Ford, is it your experience they last longer? >>> >>> On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does >>> push you to renew the coolant! >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en >>> >>> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As >>> Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum >>> Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or >>> in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any >>> person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or >>> alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained >>> within this or related message(s). >&g
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
My other kitcar is reading high on the gauge but the fan never cuts in, investigations required to determine whether it’s the sender , gauge, thermostat, fan or fan switch, Pity the heater never gets any warmer. Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Jan 2019, at 16:28, Derek Clews wrote: > > Thanks All, > > As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? > Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the > old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move > fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck > open all the time. > > I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! > > Derek > > >> On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott >> wrote: >> >> I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. >> Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation >> several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold >> to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the >> belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track >> control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles >> until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball >> joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so >> just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached >> to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my >> ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which >> were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my >> MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. >> Martin >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" >> To: "Quantum Owners Club" >> Cc: "Derek Clews" >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM >> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the >> previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just >> opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change >> it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. >> From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the >> Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and >> replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were >> an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine >> Ford, is it your experience they last longer? >> >> On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does >> push you to renew the coolant! >> >> Derek >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >> To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en >> >> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" >> basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum >> Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or >> in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any >> person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or >> alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained >> within this or related message(s). >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >> To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> quantumowners-unsubs
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
It's certainly strange - still looking on the bright side, at least they seem to fail in the open mode, rather than the closed! Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Forum" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
- Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Forum" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@goog
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek > On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott > wrote: > > I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. > Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation > several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to > the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief > that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms > for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber > bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive > play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! > In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play > (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many > more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available > to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not > uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. > Martin > > > > - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" > To: "Quantum Owners Club" > Cc: "Derek Clews" > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat > > > Dear All, > > Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the > previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just > opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. > Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my > previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH > engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with > another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On > Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your > experience they last longer? > > On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does > push you to renew the coolant! > > Derek > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in > the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged > to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this > or related message(s). > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in > the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged > to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this > or related message(s). > -
RE: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Same overhere. During freezing winter I put a piece of cardboard in front. Hans -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Jim Hearne" Verzonden: 27-1-2019 10:29 Aan: "quantumowners@googlegroups.com" Onderwerp: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Yes, i found the same thing, CVH's seem to get through thermostats for some reason. As one stage i was replacing them about once a year. Genuine Ford of pattern parts, didn't seem to make a difference. Jim On 26/01/2019 10:11, Derek Clews wrote: > Dear All, > > Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the > previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just > opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. > Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From > my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford > CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced > with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK > brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, > is it your experience they last longer? > > On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does > push you to renew the coolant! > > Derek > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Yes, i found the same thing, CVH's seem to get through thermostats for some reason. As one stage i was replacing them about once a year. Genuine Ford of pattern parts, didn't seem to make a difference. Jim On 26/01/2019 10:11, Derek Clews wrote: Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Okay. Very weird. I just checked the water and it was bone dry inside. I've filled it up and it slowly went down, probably going into the pipes etc. There's no leak as I had the car sitting there for 5 minutes and then moved the car, nothing under it. I supppse the water will continue to go down until there's water in the whole system? It went in for a service a couple weeks ago! I'll phone him up later. The thermostat went up but not to where it normally sits. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Since you will loose some coolant changing the stat, take off the 2 hoses that go to the heater and stick the garden hose on the heater pipes to flush it out, do both pipes a couple of times. Might help the heater. Or, it could be a pattern heater matrix which don't seem to work as well. Or the foam perished on the flaps inside the heater so there is always some cold air getting past. Jim -Original Message- From: SMIDG3T Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 5:08 PM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not? Okay. To be honest the heater never really got hot anyway in full blast. Best get it fixed before the really cold weather starts then. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Okay. To be honest the heater never really got hot anyway in full blast. Best get it fixed before the really cold weather starts then. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Almost certainly just the stat then. Not a problem to drive it like that at the moment apart from you will get cold. In the long term it doesn't do the engine much good as the oil never gets hot enough to drive off any water in it. Jim -Original Message- From: SMIDG3T Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:53 PM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not? The water level was fine a week again. I'll check again later. Yes, the pipes that connect to the radiator are hot. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
The water level was fine a week again. I'll check again later. Yes, the pipes that connect to the radiator are hot. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Assuming it's not just low on water. Which pipes are hot ? The hoses to the rad should not get hot until the stat has opened so if they are getting warm soon after the engine has been started then the stat is stuck open, this is the most common failure mode for Zetec stats and i've had some pattern ones last less than a year. Another possibility is an airlock. Take the small pipe off the stat housing that goes to the reservoir and make sure you can blow through it. Also check the hole in the stat housing is clear where that pipe goes on. This is the pipe that air bleeds out of the system so if it's blocked air can build up in the head. Jim -Original Message- From: SMIDG3T Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:25 PM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not? Hi. Within the last few days or so, the temperature gauge has been sitting at the very bottom pretty much. (Normally it sits at halfway). The pipes are hot but I'm not getting any hot air even when I've been driving for a while. Just not however the needle did raise a little. The engine is a Mondeo 1999 Zetec 1.8. Is it the thermostat or not and is it safe to drive? Thanks. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Quantum Owners] Thermostat or Not?
Hi. Within the last few days or so, the temperature gauge has been sitting at the very bottom pretty much. (Normally it sits at halfway). The pipes are hot but I'm not getting any hot air even when I've been driving for a while. Just not however the needle did raise a little. The engine is a Mondeo 1999 Zetec 1.8. Is it the thermostat or not and is it safe to drive? Thanks. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Quantum Owners] Thermostat Housing
Different question this one. I am planning to put a turbo on my Xtreme this winter and one of the issues is the thermostat housing cover. My Zetec cover is a straightforward domed cover with two holes drilled at 180 degress for the bolts and threaded for the fan stat. The engine is fitted from a Raceline water rail supplied by Q. To fit the turbo I need to have the top hose outlet at 90 deg to the current position ie facing forward. My next step is to scour the local scrappy to see if I can find similar. The question is does anyone know if the housing covers with two bolt holes at 180 deg are a standard size and spacing. I can remove it and measure to compare, but it woulod be helpful if they were standard. I will try to attach a photo on the photos page, but have never succeeded on this before. Thanks Nigel PS I have tried contacting Raceline but no help so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Housing
That sort of stat housing used to be fairly standard on older engines but nowadays the stat housing is much more multifunction with many more pipes coming of and quite of often a change over stat tahter than a normal one. Actually that's interesting as that engine would normally have a change stat with a bypass circuit. Jim On 13/11/2011 08:56, nigelp wrote: Different question this one. I am planning to put a turbo on my Xtreme this winter and one of the issues is the thermostat housing cover. My Zetec cover is a straightforward domed cover with two holes drilled at 180 degress for the bolts and threaded for the fan stat. The engine is fitted from a Raceline water rail supplied by Q. To fit the turbo I need to have the top hose outlet at 90 deg to the current position ie facing forward. My next step is to scour the local scrappy to see if I can find similar. The question is does anyone know if the housing covers with two bolt holes at 180 deg are a standard size and spacing. I can remove it and measure to compare, but it woulod be helpful if they were standard. I will try to attach a photo on the photos page, but have never succeeded on this before. Thanks Nigel PS I have tried contacting Raceline but no help so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Housing
Might be easier just just take that cap to a local engineering company, get the top cut off and then re-welded 90 degrees round. Jim On 13/11/2011 08:56, nigelp wrote: Different question this one. I am planning to put a turbo on my Xtreme this winter and one of the issues is the thermostat housing cover. My Zetec cover is a straightforward domed cover with two holes drilled at 180 degress for the bolts and threaded for the fan stat. The engine is fitted from a Raceline water rail supplied by Q. To fit the turbo I need to have the top hose outlet at 90 deg to the current position ie facing forward. My next step is to scour the local scrappy to see if I can find similar. The question is does anyone know if the housing covers with two bolt holes at 180 deg are a standard size and spacing. I can remove it and measure to compare, but it woulod be helpful if they were standard. I will try to attach a photo on the photos page, but have never succeeded on this before. Thanks Nigel PS I have tried contacting Raceline but no help so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).