Re: [qubes-users] Deleting debian-9 template and getting a new one returns an error: "Error: Unable to find a match"

2019-02-28 Thread Chris Laprise

On 2/28/19 8:30 PM, Sphere wrote:

I was sure I double checked the line of code I used in dom0 terminal to get a 
new template which was
"sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-debian-9"

Not sure why running this returns with the "Error: Unable to find a match" 
while just changing 9 to 8 actually works

The same case happens when I try qubes-template-fedora-29, where my fedora-29 
template still exists

If this is because of some sort of name conflict issue, how could I download 
the template/s and have them be named something else?



The older release with the apt vulnerability may have been removed from 
the repository, and the patched version may still be in testing?


Easiest way to resolve that is to add '--enablerepo=qubes*testing'.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread brendan . hoar
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:30:38 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> br@gmail.com wrote on 2/28/19 3:33 PM:
> >  From wikipedia:
> >> ISO 9660 is by design a read-only, pre-mastered file system ... all the 
> >> data has to be written in one go or "session" to the medium
> > 
> > In order to update files, you need to extract the tree to a file system 
> > that supports updating files, then remaster the image, then use that image 
> > to DD to the USB.
> > 
> Thought I was able to edit them directly on the USB drive in the past. 
> Has that changed, or am I confused?

If you:

a) use dd to image an iso onto a flash drive, you now have an iso 9660 file 
system. It's not meant to be written ad-hoc from mount in an OS. 
If, instead, you:
b) extract the files from the ISO to an appropriate r/w file system partition 
on a flash drive (FAT, eFAT, ext3, NTFS) then you can add/modify/delete files 
to your heart's content.

However, with the latter approach, the mastered-for-ISO boot chain might only 
be expecting an ISO 9660 file system and therefore fail (in some cases) if it's 
not running off of one. Hence why there are often very detailed settings 
required to properly write some ISOs to flash drives and still end up with 
bootable media.

Brendan

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[qubes-users] Deleting debian-9 template and getting a new one returns an error: "Error: Unable to find a match"

2019-02-28 Thread Sphere
I was sure I double checked the line of code I used in dom0 terminal to get a 
new template which was
"sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-debian-9"

Not sure why running this returns with the "Error: Unable to find a match" 
while just changing 9 to 8 actually works

The same case happens when I try qubes-template-fedora-29, where my fedora-29 
template still exists

If this is because of some sort of name conflict issue, how could I download 
the template/s and have them be named something else?

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Re: [qubes-users] Weird dnf update command behavior on fedora-29 template

2019-02-28 Thread Sphere
On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:54:12 AM UTC+8, awokd wrote:
> Sphere:
> > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:57:22 AM UTC+8, awokd wrote:
> >> Sphere:
> >>
> >>> Making it seem like my sys-net has been set as the updateVM for my 
> >>> fedora-29 template
> >>>
> >>> I haven't tried updating my other templates yet but performing a 
> >>> "qubes-dom0-update" works properly as intended and is using updateVM 
> >>> properly
> >>>
> >> Double check targets in /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy.
> > 
> > Thank you very much for that
> > I checked the file and I found:
> > 
> > # Default rule for all TemplateVMs - direct the connection to sys-net
> > $type:TemplateVM $default allow, target=sys-net
> > 
> > (facepalm)
> > Does this mean that the updateVM that I assigned was meaningless after all 
> > this time? OTL
> > 
> Not completely. The updateVM setting applies for dom0 updates but to 
> also have your templates update via your new template you want to also 
> change the target= line in there.

Ah that's a relief to hear
While I did understand what those pieces of code meant I at least wanted 
confirmation from someone else
Guess I'll go try to redownload my templates just to be sure

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [In]Valid Concerns Regarding Integrity of Whonix Project

2019-02-28 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

cooloutac wrote on 2/28/19 5:45 PM:

[Tor] needs expanding,

Sounds good to me! But there is plenty of spare bandwidth already: 
https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth-flags.html.


I believe there are occasional hostile exit nodes, but if you have to 
trust the infrastructure/Internet in general, you are doing it wrong. 
Like a lot of things in security, you have to figure out the trade-offs 
and develop a solution that works for you. If performance is more 
important in your application than anonymity, then Tor is probably not 
the right choice for you. However, others have different priorities.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

brendan.h...@gmail.com wrote on 2/28/19 3:33 PM:

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-5, Daniil Travnikov wrote:

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:04:05 AM UTC-5, unman wrote:

You are trying to write to an iso file, which is a read only file
system. (It's an image of a CD/DVD)

As awokd has suggested, you need to copy the files to a USB drive, or
similar, and edit them there. Then create a new iso image and boot from
that.


In first step: "1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode." I already copied this 
files on USB. It means that when I open usb flash drive I see not .iso file, I see files 
and folders which I can't edit because it is not writable.


The file system on the USB stick is still ISO 9660 (not FAT or ext2 or NTFS). 
That file system does not support updates to files.

 From wikipedia:

ISO 9660 is by design a read-only, pre-mastered file system ... all the data has to be 
written in one go or "session" to the medium


In order to update files, you need to extract the tree to a file system that 
supports updating files, then remaster the image, then use that image to DD to 
the USB.

Brendan

Thought I was able to edit them directly on the USB drive in the past. 
Has that changed, or am I confused?


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Re: [qubes-users] Weird dnf update command behavior on fedora-29 template

2019-02-28 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

Sphere:

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:57:22 AM UTC+8, awokd wrote:

Sphere:


Making it seem like my sys-net has been set as the updateVM for my fedora-29 
template

I haven't tried updating my other templates yet but performing a 
"qubes-dom0-update" works properly as intended and is using updateVM properly


Double check targets in /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy.


Thank you very much for that
I checked the file and I found:

# Default rule for all TemplateVMs - direct the connection to sys-net
$type:TemplateVM $default allow, target=sys-net

(facepalm)
Does this mean that the updateVM that I assigned was meaningless after all this 
time? OTL

Not completely. The updateVM setting applies for dom0 updates but to 
also have your templates update via your new template you want to also 
change the target= line in there.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 Cannot change desktop background

2019-02-28 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Le 28/02/2019 à 19:42, Jon deps a écrit :
> I'd say it's ' a feature not a bug '  ; as ideally you don't want to
> touch  dom0  . qubes isn't about  eye candy and gaming :)
> 
> having said that  iirc  there was a work around in 3.2  not sure about 4.x

Eventually I could manage to make it work but for some reason it was a
matter of time : for sure there is something abnormal there :

After having selected the correct folder by typing its name (as it would
be greyed out in the selection box), it took *minutes* before replacing
the default folder thumbnails by the correct ones.

The machine being an i7, it's quite unexpected.

So I thought it wasn't working and retried and retried...

At some point I went away for a pee, and when I came back the thumbnails
were displayed and I could select one.

Since, the background slide show seems to work properly.

Best regards.

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[qubes-users] good bye, qubes-users list

2019-02-28 Thread Holger Levsen
hi,

unman wrote today:


Please consider the guidelines and be respectful and polite to others.
None of these accusations of trolling help build the commmunity, or
advance Qubes.


and while I totally agree with this I've also decided that the latest
conspirancies and insults on this, qubes-users, list were the drop that
made the bucket overflow. I'm leaving this mailing list, the
signal/noise ratio is almost 0 (for me). It is also not a mailinglist I
will recommend to anyone.

I'm sorry for the nice qubes users here and the qubes project.

Obviously I do think that some mailinglist moderation is in order... 
I'd probably be willing to come back, if some changes have been implemented,
but like it is, it's sadly a waste of time and mental energy.


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[qubes-users] Re: Best ideal laptop for Qubes?

2019-02-28 Thread Jon deps
On 2/21/19 12:49 AM, 
dexinthecity-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:

I've been spending hours and hours looking at laptop configs from dell to 
lenovo and I still have yet to make a decision. I'm hoping you guys can help me.

Uses:

- Programming
- Web Dev
- Tor
- Screen real estate
- Regular web surfing and videos
- Some video and photo editing but I have a PC for that

I'd like to keep cost as low as possible but my budget is very flexible if I 
need to stretch it. I want something that will last me 3-5 years.



IMO get a thinkpad with 32 gb  ram  and don't worry about a TPM  unless 
your a stable jenius .


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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 Cannot change desktop background

2019-02-28 Thread Jon deps

On 2/28/19 10:15 AM, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:

Hi list,

On a fresh Qubes 4.01 install with updates applied :

I copied a couple images to the user's home in dom0 and would like to
use them as a wallpaper.

But when I open the "Desktop settings" I cannot navigate the filsystem :
all the directories and files in the

"Folder / Other" selection dialog are grayed out.

Still I can manually type the path in the upper box and see the
directories and files appear - so it doesnt' seem to be a rights issue -
but they're still greyed out.

When I'm back to the pictures selection box, even though the correct
folder name is displayed, I can anyhow only see the images from the
original picture folder.

I checked the rights of the files and folders and everything seems to be
OK, still I cannot navigate and select what I want.

Any clue appreciated :)

Best regards.

ॐ



I'd say it's ' a feature not a bug '  ; as ideally you don't want to 
touch  dom0  . qubes isn't about  eye candy and gaming :)


having said that  iirc  there was a work around in 3.2  not sure about 
4.x


you'll find in xfce,  many of the  'global settings'  may not operate as 
they would  say  in  Ubuntu XFCE  or so .. though some folks do run 
KDE  apparently on qubes  like  tasket :P


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[qubes-users] Re: thunderbird address book corrupted

2019-02-28 Thread Jon deps

On 2/25/19 7:07 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:04:30 PM UTC+1, Jon deps wrote:

Hello, I realize it's not exactly a qubes thing.
but, does anybody else unable to save any new entries in thunderbird
address book


try updating tb, looks like it's a bug in 60.5.



thanks, well I just use whatever Fedora-29  provides which at the moment 
is 60.5.1


where did you see the bug report ?

it seems to have been this way for many months,  can't create new 
contact, can add any new info to existing entries,  I tried removing the 
 .mab  files  in .thunderbird and making a new "book"  but still can't 
add any entries ...


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Re: [qubes-users] Structure of qubes

2019-02-28 Thread acharya . sagar . sagar5
Yes, unman, it was installed in /home/user

I made /tmp/site_packages and added a line 
export PIP_TARGET='/tmp/site_packages'
 in ~./bashrc

Now, pandas is installed in /tmp/site_packages and pip3 freeze doesn't even 
detect it in template. Anyways, it looks solvable.

I can't get around rpmfusion though. I'm having trouble with package manager 
dnf. How do I add the repo? What's the repo name? Where will the GPU drivers be 
installed? Will I be able to use them from work qube with tensorflow-gpu?

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix Yes or No

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac


Keep your eye on this guy Andrew.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [In]Valid Concerns Regarding Integrity of Whonix Project

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac
I can definitely see journalists in these times in America needing to use it.   
activists,  etc...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [In]Valid Concerns Regarding Integrity of Whonix Project

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac
It needs expanding,  I'd say theres too many people using it that don't need to.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [In]Valid Concerns Regarding Integrity of Whonix Project

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 1:43:28 AM UTC-5, haaber wrote:
> >> cooloutac:
> >>
> >>> The reason why I say privacy and anonymity are two diff things.  And way 
> >>> apart from security. is For example if I log into a facebook .onion site. 
> >>>  Its still my identity.  All that information about you is still being 
> >>> sold to ad agencies.  Governments are still watching it.   The only 
> >>> benefit I can see, is again,   people hiding their location for fear of 
> >>> their life or imprisonment.
> >>
> >> You listed one of the more common Tor benefits in your own paragraph-
> >> many people also use it for every day browsing to avoid most of that
> >> commercial information gathering and resale.
> >
> > Meanwhile you are taking up bandwidth from people who are fearing for their 
> > life or imprisonment.  Maybe you're getting someone killed to stick it to 
> > the ad agencies.   Seems selfish and silly to me, and not a reason to be 
> > using tor.
> >
> 
> I cannot follow your argument. On the contrary: one cannot well hide
> inside a system that contains *only* people who need to hide, right?
> Correlations of users and packets are too high and one is immediately
> uncovered. This means that a good amount of traffic is literally
> *needed* so that some people who rely on it have a chance to disappear
> in the haystack ! Using the tor network for standard browsing is
> therefore good, and encouraged. It is also encouraged to support the tor
> infrastructure (by a donation, for example) :))

well thats a good point.  and you do need people around the world to use it I 
guess even in countries of people that do not fear imprisonment.

The thing is so slow though that i'm sure people die every day relying on it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Responding to the Whonix trolls...

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac
I'm banned again on whonix.  And now Patrick says on there he never told me to 
fuck off.   And look now he corrected my grammar.  More proof he grew up 
confused and was raised by irc 4chan trolls.  Which is ironic,  because most of 
them are opposite of his main agenda.  In essence he is a  tool against himself.

But its confirmed the guy is a fraud.

Qubes could of been great.  But there is too many fakes on the project for it 
to become more popular.   Its sort of like how linux users prefer noone uses 
linux,  so they can feel special for using it.   Its probably why qubes-whonix 
left Patrick.   

  IMO using whonix is a security risk. I always felt that way cause of how 
buggy it was.  But now you couldn't pay me to use it due to who maintains it.

And people like unman are just as bad.  He is here to undo man lol.

IF we look back.  All our systems got borked and Qubes started becoming less 
user friendly,   After Unman started posting and being rude to people.   Before 
Joanna's blog and paranoid mode came out.

Awoked is a good guy though.   But unman is actually a dev.  its sad.

What alot of security professionals don't understand is 90% of compromises are 
from social engineering or inside jobs.

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Re: [qubes-users] Responding to the Whonix trolls...

2019-02-28 Thread cooloutac

unman is one of the reasons I don't trust Qubes as much.  FYI...  for the same 
reasons as Patrick.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread brendan . hoar
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-5, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:04:05 AM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> > You are trying to write to an iso file, which is a read only file
> > system. (It's an image of a CD/DVD)
> > 
> > As awokd has suggested, you need to copy the files to a USB drive, or
> > similar, and edit them there. Then create a new iso image and boot from
> > that.
> 
> In first step: "1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode." I already copied this 
> files on USB. It means that when I open usb flash drive I see not .iso file, 
> I see files and folders which I can't edit because it is not writable.

The file system on the USB stick is still ISO 9660 (not FAT or ext2 or NTFS). 
That file system does not support updates to files.

>From wikipedia:
> ISO 9660 is by design a read-only, pre-mastered file system ... all the data 
> has to be written in one go or "session" to the medium

In order to update files, you need to extract the tree to a file system that 
supports updating files, then remaster the image, then use that image to DD to 
the USB.

Brendan

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:04:05 AM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> You are trying to write to an iso file, which is a read only file
> system. (It's an image of a CD/DVD)
> 
> As awokd has suggested, you need to copy the files to a USB drive, or
> similar, and edit them there. Then create a new iso image and boot from
> that.

In first step: "1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode." I already copied this 
files on USB. It means that when I open usb flash drive I see not .iso file, I 
see files and folders which I can't edit because it is not writable.

I don't know, maybe it is the problem of DD mode writing of .iso, but I tried 
also usual .iso mode in Rufus and when I am changing anything then I got this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zGI53XZ6f-8BoX28XueuuAmDQmFVf4FT/view - 8GB 
flash drive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ms_p53vRnSMy7OTjYFuSBlMH2ULvypLh/view - 1TB 
SSD drive


Or you mean another method of copy files to USB drive?

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Re: [qubes-users] Structure of qubes

2019-02-28 Thread unman
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:16:34AM -0800, acharya.sagar.sag...@gmail.com wrote:
> I wanted to understand the tree structure of qubes.
> 
> So my guess is this.
> 
> dom0 is the owner of every other thing. There are 4 template VMs, fedora, 
> debian, 2 whonix ones.
> 
> When a domain restarts, it takes it settings from the template on which it is 
> based and it's own home directory and other couple ones which are just in it, 
> I guess stored in ROM.
> 
> I created another fedoraDev template for my development purposes on which my 
> work qube is based. work has no net access. When I installed pandas in my 
> fedoraDev template, it didn't reflect in work after restarts. When I changed 
> work netVM to sys-firewall and run "pip install pandas", there's no internet!
> 
> Also, I want to install nvidia drivers from rpmfusion for which I need to add 
> repos. I don't know where is dnf is. It's in dom0 but it is not connected to 
> internet. I need to make them in fedora. In my personal domain connected to 
> internet, there's no dnf.
> 
> I need to know the structure of qubes better to understand dnf and my python 
> pandas installation. I'm certainly missing something.
> 

Your summary of the Qubes structure is pretty good.

Where has panda been installed in the template? The only case where it
wouldnt appear in the work qube would be where it was installed in
/home/user in the template.
Check the path to library in the template and confirm it is there in the qube. 
You
may need to adjust your path in the qube.

In dom0 you need to use qubes-dom0-update - I suggest you read this:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0

In dom0 and in templates, there is no direct internet connection, and
updates (whether rpm or deb) run by proxy in an updateVM.
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-vm/ in the section on
"Updates proxy" may help.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Responding to the Whonix trolls...

2019-02-28 Thread unman
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 11:03:12AM +0100, Achim Patzner wrote:
> On 20190227 at 22:30 -0800 cooloutac wrote:
> 
> Whenever I accidentally read a posting by raahelps@ I'm wondering what
> crime we committed to have to bear something like this and what could
> be done to avoid attracting people like that...
> 
> Do us all a favor and go troll somewhere else.
> 
> 
> Achim

I dont think this is helpful
Please consider the guidelines and be respectful and polite to others.
None of these accusations of trolling help build the commmunity, or
advance Qubes.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread unman
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 02:18:57AM -0800, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:19:09 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> > Don't edit the ISO directly. dd or cp it to a USB drive (not partition), 
> > then follow the steps and mount the second partition and edit files in 
> > there.
> Thank you very much for your answer and for your help!
> 
> Ok, that's what I am doing step by step:
> 
> 1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode.
> 
> 2. When I am trying to open file BOOTX64.cfg:
> [user@dom0 BOOT]$ sudo nano BOOTX64.cfg
> 
> I can't save any edits in files and after open nano editor I see this below:
> [ File 'BOOTX64.cfg' is unwritable ]
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 

You are trying to write to an iso file, which is a read only file
system. (It's an image of a CD/DVD)

As awokd has suggested, you need to copy the files to a USB drive, or
similar, and edit them there. Then create a new iso image and boot from
that.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:19:09 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> Don't edit the ISO directly. dd or cp it to a USB drive (not partition), 
> then follow the steps and mount the second partition and edit files in 
> there.
Thank you very much for your answer and for your help!

Ok, that's what I am doing step by step:

1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode.

2. When I am trying to open file BOOTX64.cfg:
[user@dom0 BOOT]$ sudo nano BOOTX64.cfg

I can't save any edits in files and after open nano editor I see this below:
[ File 'BOOTX64.cfg' is unwritable ]

What am I doing wrong?

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 Cannot change desktop background

2019-02-28 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Hi list,

On a fresh Qubes 4.01 install with updates applied :

I copied a couple images to the user's home in dom0 and would like to
use them as a wallpaper.

But when I open the "Desktop settings" I cannot navigate the filsystem :
all the directories and files in the

"Folder / Other" selection dialog are grayed out.

Still I can manually type the path in the upper box and see the
directories and files appear - so it doesnt' seem to be a rights issue -
but they're still greyed out.

When I'm back to the pictures selection box, even though the correct
folder name is displayed, I can anyhow only see the images from the
original picture folder.

I checked the rights of the files and folders and everything seems to be
OK, still I cannot navigate and select what I want.

Any clue appreciated :)

Best regards.

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Re: [qubes-users] Responding to the Whonix trolls...

2019-02-28 Thread Achim Patzner
On 20190227 at 22:30 -0800 cooloutac wrote:

Whenever I accidentally read a posting by raahelps@ I'm wondering what
crime we committed to have to bear something like this and what could
be done to avoid attracting people like that...

Do us all a favor and go troll somewhere else.


Achim

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Oryx Pro laptop (BOOTX64.cfg for Qubes 4.0.1)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:19:09 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> Don't edit the ISO directly. dd or cp it to a USB drive (not partition), 
> then follow the steps and mount the second partition and edit files in 
> there.

Thank you very much for your answer and for your help!

Ok, that's what I am doing step by step:

1. I write .iso via Rufus in DD mode.

2. When I am trying to open file BOOTX64.cfg:
[user@dom0 BOOT]$ sudo nano BOOTX64.cfg

I can't save any edits in files and after open nano editor I see this below:
[ File 'BOOTX64.cfg' in unwritable ]

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [qubes-users] Weird dnf update command behavior on fedora-29 template

2019-02-28 Thread Sphere
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:57:22 AM UTC+8, awokd wrote:
> Sphere:
> 
> > Making it seem like my sys-net has been set as the updateVM for my 
> > fedora-29 template
> > 
> > I haven't tried updating my other templates yet but performing a 
> > "qubes-dom0-update" works properly as intended and is using updateVM 
> > properly
> > 
> Double check targets in /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy.

Thank you very much for that
I checked the file and I found:

# Default rule for all TemplateVMs - direct the connection to sys-net
$type:TemplateVM $default allow, target=sys-net

(facepalm)
Does this mean that the updateVM that I assigned was meaningless after all this 
time? OTL

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[qubes-users] Structure of qubes

2019-02-28 Thread acharya . sagar . sagar5
I wanted to understand the tree structure of qubes.

So my guess is this.

dom0 is the owner of every other thing. There are 4 template VMs, fedora, 
debian, 2 whonix ones.

When a domain restarts, it takes it settings from the template on which it is 
based and it's own home directory and other couple ones which are just in it, I 
guess stored in ROM.

I created another fedoraDev template for my development purposes on which my 
work qube is based. work has no net access. When I installed pandas in my 
fedoraDev template, it didn't reflect in work after restarts. When I changed 
work netVM to sys-firewall and run "pip install pandas", there's no internet!

Also, I want to install nvidia drivers from rpmfusion for which I need to add 
repos. I don't know where is dnf is. It's in dom0 but it is not connected to 
internet. I need to make them in fedora. In my personal domain connected to 
internet, there's no dnf.

I need to know the structure of qubes better to understand dnf and my python 
pandas installation. I'm certainly missing something.

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