Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
On 03.12.2017 04:02, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-12-02 09:13, Stumpy wrote: On 02.12.2017 01:36, Andrew David Wong wrote: On 2017-12-01 13:24, Stumpy wrote: On 01.12.2017 10:05, Tom Zander wrote: On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google account For those of us in that section of the population; you can subscribe to the group without having a google account and get 100% of the emails in your email application of choice. The details are here; https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ Quoting from it; Google Groups You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, subscribing might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> Note: A Gmail account is not required. Any email address will work. Thanks for the response. Perhaps I am a bit confused but I have subscribed to the mailing list but some of the responses only seem to be in google groups, not my inbox, so in order to reply I would have to get a google account no? No, a Google Account is not required. Many people who use the Qubes mailing lists never create one. If you're subscribed to one of the lists, you should be receiving every message sent to that list. (Of course, you won't retroactively receive emails that were sent to the list before you subscribed.) Really? I must be doing something wrong. I had origonally sent a message to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com and got a confirmation message but I dont get any messages except some of the responses to my posts that I sent to qubes-users@googlegroups.com I will read the mailing list page again because I think I have missed an important detail I just tried to search for your email address in the list of qubes-users subscribers, and it's not there. So, it looks like your address was never successfully subscribed, or it was unsubscribed at some point. I recommend that you try to subscribe again. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaI2kgAAoJENtN07w5UDAwkuEQAM0vWT/88+c7rsHTA1F5aobN EQ4uDv9RFSxEmp7bYxKCJhx4bcyKxNH54pM9H3tH/lUrUxms+OmGO7WSxslfdghz egly/u0L43sr5J+l7xMc1dxzTR2e8Md8EGpxiT0+zZylenzQRQT2w4fU5UMD3Sky 43BJ7ct6MIRC8amayYGqrDAP+eejTa0kRMCl8TmeCcx8A3YcjeRMMm7u/e0bDn5n ZkthRdqTW8+xnU8aWkbxtCJwn4iN47sVhJedzu2cd9r51DiYsX0BTL0A8yZdMXs+ 2pDAaBm7e5NG4M2BZOC8YcEQ9844BzQOqN9M+DalkzdRtRLFg1kfUWIrqS/feOIx TJm4JePZbdfRYOah1sYEf6OjAVHXmA7h7owt5G30itvLzRGXVvJiAyMi3HlMVUiW 3NftuyCDFkrc/L1Lj2rKLVDDDYHf4i99RMiaeJeCXBcWv4kmYxBGtteGbXtX6RkW ywN03dWg96XpOjV+ewnUZe4W/0CXSYWnD6fHX6LZMbueITORudUJfyVbuSsdLXjP s8pTtRmO1RdnNiVGMqCHhBLEBiPQME5xAPWcRVk0xbItdn29YelYZ3rdg8qIvzIf 6kSnjlV6ZCfRzl1bi43tkHfYGLEc8MAWLVjUae06Jjjfh5JZCdDCzymCkeRFVMPU zEstVGvQsynLzgi23/N2 =liCS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks. I tried again and got another confirmation. Shall see if it works this time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/454a089fb34c37d0444ae189266e0d48%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
On 12/03/2017 04:02 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:>> No, a Google Account is not required. Many people who use the >> Qubes mailing lists never create one. If you're subscribed to one >> of the lists, you should be receiving every message sent to that >> list. (Of course, you won't retroactively receive emails that were >> sent to the list before you subscribed.) > >>> Really? I must be doing something wrong. I had origonally sent a >>> message to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com and got a >>> confirmation message but I dont get any messages except some of >>> the responses to my posts that I sent to >>> qubes-users@googlegroups.com I will read the mailing list page >>> again because I think I have missed an important detail > > I just tried to search for your email address in the list of > qubes-users subscribers, and it's not there. So, it looks like your > address was never successfully subscribed, or it was unsubscribed at > some point. I recommend that you try to subscribe again. Hmm, just a suggestion: if people aren't expected to Cc: everyone involved in a thread when replying, maybe it'd be better to set the google groups to only allow incoming messages from subscribed email addresses only? The error message is not very informative, but it would avoid issues like this one, by forcing people to subscribe before asking questions? Then it's less user-friendly, so there's a choice to be made, if it hasn't been made already. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2bcba28b-42ad-85bc-ab29-e34f3efc2d6d%40gaspard.ninja. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-12-02 09:13, Stumpy wrote: > > > On 02.12.2017 01:36, Andrew David Wong wrote: On 2017-12-01 13:24, > Stumpy wrote: On 01.12.2017 10:05, Tom Zander wrote: > On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: >> I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have >> a google account > > For those of us in that section of the population; you can > subscribe to the group without having a google account and > get 100% of the emails in your email application of > choice. > > The details are here; > https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ > > Quoting from it; > >> Google Groups >> >> You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this >> list. However, subscribing might nonetheless be >> desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be >> eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to >> receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> >> To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to >> qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> Note: A Gmail >> account is not required. Any email address will work. Thanks for the response. Perhaps I am a bit confused but I have subscribed to the mailing list but some of the responses only seem to be in google groups, not my inbox, so in order to reply I would have to get a google account no? > > No, a Google Account is not required. Many people who use the > Qubes mailing lists never create one. If you're subscribed to one > of the lists, you should be receiving every message sent to that > list. (Of course, you won't retroactively receive emails that were > sent to the list before you subscribed.) > >> Really? I must be doing something wrong. I had origonally sent a >> message to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com and got a >> confirmation message but I dont get any messages except some of >> the responses to my posts that I sent to >> qubes-users@googlegroups.com I will read the mailing list page >> again because I think I have missed an important detail I just tried to search for your email address in the list of qubes-users subscribers, and it's not there. So, it looks like your address was never successfully subscribed, or it was unsubscribed at some point. I recommend that you try to subscribe again. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaI2kgAAoJENtN07w5UDAwkuEQAM0vWT/88+c7rsHTA1F5aobN EQ4uDv9RFSxEmp7bYxKCJhx4bcyKxNH54pM9H3tH/lUrUxms+OmGO7WSxslfdghz egly/u0L43sr5J+l7xMc1dxzTR2e8Md8EGpxiT0+zZylenzQRQT2w4fU5UMD3Sky 43BJ7ct6MIRC8amayYGqrDAP+eejTa0kRMCl8TmeCcx8A3YcjeRMMm7u/e0bDn5n ZkthRdqTW8+xnU8aWkbxtCJwn4iN47sVhJedzu2cd9r51DiYsX0BTL0A8yZdMXs+ 2pDAaBm7e5NG4M2BZOC8YcEQ9844BzQOqN9M+DalkzdRtRLFg1kfUWIrqS/feOIx TJm4JePZbdfRYOah1sYEf6OjAVHXmA7h7owt5G30itvLzRGXVvJiAyMi3HlMVUiW 3NftuyCDFkrc/L1Lj2rKLVDDDYHf4i99RMiaeJeCXBcWv4kmYxBGtteGbXtX6RkW ywN03dWg96XpOjV+ewnUZe4W/0CXSYWnD6fHX6LZMbueITORudUJfyVbuSsdLXjP s8pTtRmO1RdnNiVGMqCHhBLEBiPQME5xAPWcRVk0xbItdn29YelYZ3rdg8qIvzIf 6kSnjlV6ZCfRzl1bi43tkHfYGLEc8MAWLVjUae06Jjjfh5JZCdDCzymCkeRFVMPU zEstVGvQsynLzgi23/N2 =liCS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aa3ec4e5-e6b6-8aaa-a6dc-3d8f9f519fc5%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
On 02.12.2017 01:36, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-12-01 13:24, Stumpy wrote: On 01.12.2017 10:05, Tom Zander wrote: On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google account For those of us in that section of the population; you can subscribe to the group without having a google account and get 100% of the emails in your email application of choice. The details are here; https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ Quoting from it; Google Groups You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, subscribing might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> Note: A Gmail account is not required. Any email address will work. Thanks for the response. Perhaps I am a bit confused but I have subscribed to the mailing list but some of the responses only seem to be in google groups, not my inbox, so in order to reply I would have to get a google account no? No, a Google Account is not required. Many people who use the Qubes mailing lists never create one. If you're subscribed to one of the lists, you should be receiving every message sent to that list. (Of course, you won't retroactively receive emails that were sent to the list before you subscribed.) Really? I must be doing something wrong. I had origonally sent a message to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com and got a confirmation message but I dont get any messages except some of the responses to my posts that I sent to qubes-users@googlegroups.com I will read the mailing list page again because I think I have missed an important detail I took another look at the mailing-lists page as it has indeed been awhile since I looked at it and noticed: "Keep the mailing list CCed throughout the conversation unless there’s a special need for privacy (in which case, use PGP encryption). This increases the likelihood that a greater quantity of useful information will be available to everyone in the future." That point seems to kind of answer my question/request in that everyone needs to CC (I am assuming there is a way to include the posters email when responding via the web interface). If the poster isn't cc'd then they will not see the response in their inbox, or be able to respond via email. I think you might be misreading that section. It says to keep the *mailing list* CCed throughout the conversation, not individual posters. In general, mailing list users should use "To" and "CC" appropriately. See, e.g.: https://lifehacker.com/5990422/know-the-difference-between-to-and-cc-in-an-email - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaIfWbAAoJENtN07w5UDAwYk4P/3UsAank2q9KBsDbbQhvdA35 qU6/pJ1vsLrTGnGNG7Q7KA1BXnCv9CSIoSrCIRgktHMCIpHimBaAp6lBvnvRPETr E49kn5KfpMOHXbpY9u+vxLLL8xVi9Ypi9Y+vA8iFRrSN7syMvTpo70O1l/ESC1QN R5Muqkbwn+5uV1PKwdvuNTxIKMxyEsQcDw5JlQwke1mlw4rL86+TolLTaYZEvPI3 rARqfMnBpD1OD8/5Zuc3fJJuqO7dE4K6NpB2gNKrUeYp2F2qmhrOW3rwCLWXHGjY /HCkDHvybh7NrQPdJ/VUddy5MaIln/fnWBsCQb/1CE80muv9yDpPLt58vQbpT0nK +Hf7PlXWVQ2iWRYitX5H62A9rskkbz+0qaHzDDBf5/ZzpDhMgypyDQUZSrVY7Sei z/Q6Cz9uYzomqcSxOKMT/XPEpVyhqf3+SWBDYjd4run9U/KAEn9r0ih2sa31nLBR 8V5Q2BYxBqPVyxr1/uq1KqxzD7OLAG9xn4xmallFdJfM5Mdr3qgxGChdXXmHPaNr SM5j6lbXtrKa4ntIdN4YXtJ+H3TQ6fpbRGKqJ1XEUBb+RZC7l8prOLKOgCo/gihK U33kCNDs1m2GFElzvLm3swFaLz/D8uQnj5Qo/XcwxNpYTqQ2Q3x/EG0SZYGMQExJ DRO9vt7JiEH/cwwr40IB =V62J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c1486bba265a0f2a6ee90e0fd39003b1%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-12-01 13:24, Stumpy wrote: > > > On 01.12.2017 10:05, Tom Zander wrote: >> On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: >>> I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google >>> account >> >> For those of us in that section of the population; you can subscribe >> to the >> group without having a google account and get 100% of the emails in your >> email application of choice. >> >> The details are here; >> https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ >> >> Quoting from it; >> >>> Google Groups >>> >>> You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, >>> subscribing might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your >>> messages will not be eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows >>> you to receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> >>> To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to >>> qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> >>> Note: A Gmail account is not required. Any email address will >>> work. > > Thanks for the response. Perhaps I am a bit confused but I have > subscribed to the mailing list but some of the responses only seem to be > in google groups, not my inbox, so in order to reply I would have to get > a google account no? > No, a Google Account is not required. Many people who use the Qubes mailing lists never create one. If you're subscribed to one of the lists, you should be receiving every message sent to that list. (Of course, you won't retroactively receive emails that were sent to the list before you subscribed.) > I took another look at the mailing-lists page as it has indeed been > awhile since I looked at it and noticed: > "Keep the mailing list CCed throughout the conversation unless there’s a > special need for privacy (in which case, use PGP encryption). This > increases the likelihood that a greater quantity of useful information > will be available to everyone in the future." > That point seems to kind of answer my question/request in that everyone > needs to CC (I am assuming there is a way to include the posters email > when responding via the web interface). If the poster isn't cc'd then > they will not see the response in their inbox, or be able to respond via > email. > I think you might be misreading that section. It says to keep the *mailing list* CCed throughout the conversation, not individual posters. In general, mailing list users should use "To" and "CC" appropriately. See, e.g.: https://lifehacker.com/5990422/know-the-difference-between-to-and-cc-in-an-email - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJaIfWbAAoJENtN07w5UDAwYk4P/3UsAank2q9KBsDbbQhvdA35 qU6/pJ1vsLrTGnGNG7Q7KA1BXnCv9CSIoSrCIRgktHMCIpHimBaAp6lBvnvRPETr E49kn5KfpMOHXbpY9u+vxLLL8xVi9Ypi9Y+vA8iFRrSN7syMvTpo70O1l/ESC1QN R5Muqkbwn+5uV1PKwdvuNTxIKMxyEsQcDw5JlQwke1mlw4rL86+TolLTaYZEvPI3 rARqfMnBpD1OD8/5Zuc3fJJuqO7dE4K6NpB2gNKrUeYp2F2qmhrOW3rwCLWXHGjY /HCkDHvybh7NrQPdJ/VUddy5MaIln/fnWBsCQb/1CE80muv9yDpPLt58vQbpT0nK +Hf7PlXWVQ2iWRYitX5H62A9rskkbz+0qaHzDDBf5/ZzpDhMgypyDQUZSrVY7Sei z/Q6Cz9uYzomqcSxOKMT/XPEpVyhqf3+SWBDYjd4run9U/KAEn9r0ih2sa31nLBR 8V5Q2BYxBqPVyxr1/uq1KqxzD7OLAG9xn4xmallFdJfM5Mdr3qgxGChdXXmHPaNr SM5j6lbXtrKa4ntIdN4YXtJ+H3TQ6fpbRGKqJ1XEUBb+RZC7l8prOLKOgCo/gihK U33kCNDs1m2GFElzvLm3swFaLz/D8uQnj5Qo/XcwxNpYTqQ2Q3x/EG0SZYGMQExJ DRO9vt7JiEH/cwwr40IB =V62J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7ba6112f-c08c-328b-1074-4dcbd475a49c%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
On 01.12.2017 10:05, Tom Zander wrote: On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google account For those of us in that section of the population; you can subscribe to the group without having a google account and get 100% of the emails in your email application of choice. The details are here; https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ Quoting from it; Google Groups You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, subscribing might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> Note: A Gmail account is not required. Any email address will work. Thanks for the response. Perhaps I am a bit confused but I have subscribed to the mailing list but some of the responses only seem to be in google groups, not my inbox, so in order to reply I would have to get a google account no? I took another look at the mailing-lists page as it has indeed been awhile since I looked at it and noticed: "Keep the mailing list CCed throughout the conversation unless there’s a special need for privacy (in which case, use PGP encryption). This increases the likelihood that a greater quantity of useful information will be available to everyone in the future." That point seems to kind of answer my question/request in that everyone needs to CC (I am assuming there is a way to include the posters email when responding via the web interface). If the poster isn't cc'd then they will not see the response in their inbox, or be able to respond via email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7d72d87f98dbfe36e39b2f6e68f560fe%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:37:47 CET Stumpy wrote: > I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google > account For those of us in that section of the population; you can subscribe to the group without having a google account and get 100% of the emails in your email application of choice. The details are here; https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/ Quoting from it; > Google Groups > > You don’t have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, > subscribing might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your > messages will not be eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows > you to receive messages which were sent directly to the list.> > To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to > qubes-users+subscr...@googlegroups.com.> > Note: A Gmail account is not required. Any email address will > work. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8507827.v5nN5cJd7g%40strawberry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Suggestions (for forum posts)
I am not so familiar with google groups but I don't have a google account and have noticed that sometimes people only reply to the group and don't include the posters address. Assuming its possible to "respond all" from withing gg can I suggest that we encourage each other to not only not top post (which I am 200% for) and also respond all so that those who are emailing in can get all the responses, and respond to those responses (if that makes sense) via email. Just a thought. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7955ce8a126f746b61a628394b85f817%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
