Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
Frédéric Pierret (fepitre): Before end of the month we hope to have a testing ISO for dev purpose. Currently we are on upgrading Fedora installer which have drastically changed the way of creating ISO. Awesome. I'll keep my eye out for it. Thanks. - This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to ab...@vfemail.net ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/81961b20-3119-8449-f5cc-19ba7eba4ecc%40vfemail.net.
Re: Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
On 2019-12-02 05:47, Claudia wrote: > Frédéric Pierret: >> >> On 2019-12-02 01:01, Andrew David Wong wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> On 2019-11-28 1:16 AM, Claudia wrote: Andrew David Wong: > Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS > version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and > EOL. [6] [6] > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol Is it *possible* to upgrade dom0 to, say, F30, if we wanted to? I seem to remember reading somewhere it's pretty much impossible, but I haven't been able to find that article. >>> Not as far as I know, but Marek and Frédéric (CCed) would know more >>> about this. >> >> Even if in theory, this is possible but that would mean to patch R4.0 >> with a lot of adjustments in upstream R4.1. I would discourage such >> attempt because there is major differences between fc25 and fc30. That >> would also mean doing the work we have done for going to dom0 fc29. >> >> We are going to use dom0 fc31 instead of fc29 for next release 4.1 and >> there is also other troubles like python3 migration as python2 is >> assumed deprecated in Fedora 31. >> I have a newer machine, and I've found several hardware features that work under F30 but not F25 and not under Qubes even with the same kernel version as tested in F30 (suggesting the Fedora userland plays a role too). It seems like the 5+ version lag could be holding back a lot of potential Qubes users. Especially considering Qubes/Xen is quite hardware-sensitive to begin with. >>> It sounds like your best bet might be to try R4.1, which will run >>> Fedora 29: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4225 > > Thanks for the responses. That's pretty much what I was expecting to > hear. I did install 4.1 on this machine at one point, but after > installation it would hang at the boot splash, so I couldn't test if > the hardware worked. Incidentally, I ran into that same issue when I > install 4.0.2 and was able to fix it, so I may be able to get 4.1 > running this time around. (In case you're interested: > https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/msg31199.html) > > Is there an ETA on the F31-based 4.1 build, or is it still going to be > a while? Is there a specific build or milestone or something should I > be watching for? (I plan on getting the iso from openqa) Before end of the month we hope to have a testing ISO for dev purpose. Currently we are on upgrading Fedora installer which have drastically changed the way of creating ISO. > - > This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to > ab...@vfemail.net > > ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out > of the NSA's hands! > $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No > bandwidth quotas! > Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ba8dbe64-88bd-dbdf-4389-d53a56016ba8%40orange.fr. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
Frédéric Pierret: On 2019-12-02 01:01, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-28 1:16 AM, Claudia wrote: Andrew David Wong: Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and EOL. [6] [6] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol Is it *possible* to upgrade dom0 to, say, F30, if we wanted to? I seem to remember reading somewhere it's pretty much impossible, but I haven't been able to find that article. Not as far as I know, but Marek and Frédéric (CCed) would know more about this. Even if in theory, this is possible but that would mean to patch R4.0 with a lot of adjustments in upstream R4.1. I would discourage such attempt because there is major differences between fc25 and fc30. That would also mean doing the work we have done for going to dom0 fc29. We are going to use dom0 fc31 instead of fc29 for next release 4.1 and there is also other troubles like python3 migration as python2 is assumed deprecated in Fedora 31. I have a newer machine, and I've found several hardware features that work under F30 but not F25 and not under Qubes even with the same kernel version as tested in F30 (suggesting the Fedora userland plays a role too). It seems like the 5+ version lag could be holding back a lot of potential Qubes users. Especially considering Qubes/Xen is quite hardware-sensitive to begin with. It sounds like your best bet might be to try R4.1, which will run Fedora 29: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4225 Thanks for the responses. That's pretty much what I was expecting to hear. I did install 4.1 on this machine at one point, but after installation it would hang at the boot splash, so I couldn't test if the hardware worked. Incidentally, I ran into that same issue when I install 4.0.2 and was able to fix it, so I may be able to get 4.1 running this time around. (In case you're interested: https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/msg31199.html) Is there an ETA on the F31-based 4.1 build, or is it still going to be a while? Is there a specific build or milestone or something should I be watching for? (I plan on getting the iso from openqa) - This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to ab...@vfemail.net ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/126a7c97-1c12-512f-1fbc-ee0d2a625945%40vfemail.net.
Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-12-02 2:32 AM, Frédéric Pierret wrote: > > On 2019-12-02 01:01, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 2019-11-28 1:16 AM, Claudia wrote: Andrew David Wong: > Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS > version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and > EOL. [6] [6] > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol Is it *possible* to upgrade dom0 to, say, F30, if we wanted to? I seem to remember reading somewhere it's pretty much impossible, but I haven't been able to find that article. > Not as far as I know, but Marek and Frédéric (CCed) would know more > about this. > >> Even if in theory, this is possible but that would mean to patch R4.0 >> with a lot of adjustments in upstream R4.1. I would discourage such >> attempt because there is major differences between fc25 and fc30. That >> would also mean doing the work we have done for going to dom0 fc29. > >> We are going to use dom0 fc31 instead of fc29 for next release 4.1 and >> there is also other troubles like python3 migration as python2 is >> assumed deprecated in Fedora 31. > Ok, thanks. I will update the documentation accordingly. I have a newer machine, and I've found several hardware features that work under F30 but not F25 and not under Qubes even with the same kernel version as tested in F30 (suggesting the Fedora userland plays a role too). It seems like the 5+ version lag could be holding back a lot of potential Qubes users. Especially considering Qubes/Xen is quite hardware-sensitive to begin with. > It sounds like your best bet might be to try R4.1, which will run > Fedora 29: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4225 > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3lGZAACgkQ203TvDlQ MDB84w/9EYGoqRRNuIe96QsfTRkY9zBW82VOE7OtN7ip+qWLSf89Yg7jN/L7rjAJ UxHVoSx8/PF17U+TW5KeS2uj7R6/RYzxBKb/dJQT3ak7X7mG0wnafQyGv8z8za0B wmWu0SeqM/fN7EI7PIr8sI8v6bhvDhIMNeLpHPgx8vwLH1/lHExmCPxs3NcFUuEU 82YJKH34eQK0WFAToFDWcnSdXddzjJQWC2K44V4wPWRw7agUiR88cyyyAUTHD2XO q2cj0si4YcOdGTnSHdo8a0MPzLFtqO+/YmmXhlRrHUhhIadMiSS4mQzbFzDVf/SE LmwdjKs7shQRwo9QrL+xK9UmrZVrW+fdmBhupteM98OssiEXwQOUE3izu89IKnWF 9OYxfi1FZhMfvpGqEmSEl7OL5zuxGxMOaMj1LRixganknldlB6fsaLJrQWB32E0y 0ZcNHHaetrWsN567vIriSOJPzfJqahQbBnOmigZiEUkXN87D2buvMf3uER92cHGk mu00zR87sPmmiHL0rH0RHjJQBo9MZ3RLKfdMCTqca14XbiipnTmj8TM91M9y3kYu vc0y9LLzS5dZVrawMFcRlnU+F818IZwRjQmQ7C2ELDTRCdeOb+FsYwobXYwnIGwH 5aqaGGpysDS+Xq7STUsFcmpQ/RVRi04r3fbNxmdXsva/d7VKgUE= =vMUh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a4e5b48d-161d-3879-cb88-8dc817202859%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
Andrew David Wong: Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and EOL. [6] [6] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol Is it *possible* to upgrade dom0 to, say, F30, if we wanted to? I seem to remember reading somewhere it's pretty much impossible, but I haven't been able to find that article. I have a newer machine, and I've found several hardware features that work under F30 but not F25 and not under Qubes even with the same kernel version as tested in F30 (suggesting the Fedora userland plays a role too). It seems like the 5+ version lag could be holding back a lot of potential Qubes users. Especially considering Qubes/Xen is quite hardware-sensitive to begin with. - This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to ab...@vfemail.net ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cf006075-086c-0560-d37a-cec7c1ea8250%40vfemail.net.
Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-29 8:37 PM, tetrahedra via qubes-users wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 04:17:39AM -0600, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS >> version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and >> EOL. [6] > > There have been a lot of dom0 updates recently. Is this related to > EOL? > No, those were not related to EOL. P.S. -- Please do not write to both lists. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3iBOoACgkQ203TvDlQ MDA47BAAqt7XyFShvwZzJbO96/dhkjEzsh8xBdeFjG6Dw0uBsX0Xs1yzJaXJ3cnE X1Jfyajl1TiBd0CRm2NrV1NKhEmpkavHkPV+SnLHfKBZX8JemJDv1b7TZeZCzA0I NJSl913h9oMOpAwu1uwHc7hhb2XjSy/SB8mPq/O3UMrv+fBRP5wd7OpDb9Pt20Vx XHYCIEj/6ptYyWMc6gXIpIWkXNm6aJLMyNZgb/paHq7AJKnwjNUGmSIAwXWpDByM 4BepGWA+tcym52UUgDq9qvtNR4r0h0jjM4SvBIkvI2honJj0o6Qty7KsnwrPe1cs C+6vYwDr4eQb+XuoJWBQj2xcgFrCRN0qutGvzmTmlBAntkNrdrlBA1QF1lm47+O1 C4wrxeWnTYvFHxGyc1h8cNpEsKkT8Q9AZI4t+IOnQDdu8gg6mChHfD30yFUYPcUS tpGiR7Iw2Akm2j/yga6Y14TrXEYO3sxQ5LuIRaxOAdwdOE3q8uyQpFwlnE4o97Uv UXc0BFS8jW30qbMYURu5JcvVcF0rz/1iTj/N24GOS5HQGpUQ7rdkCK0btVrvYNFg oDGoltJdRNiirfwtKIkWqYpXu9yttusDpjMdmLOVxKva8N0R46C5ie8hfaGGmy7+ O938WOqxDrysyltBBdEH96zZjU8fzArgGQsCM3bAcRMSl1P4KoM= =TL56 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6aca4332-ad5c-83a3-ef0e-93a772fdb110%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 29 has reached EOL
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 04:17:39AM -0600, Andrew David Wong wrote: Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version in dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and EOL. [6] There have been a lot of dom0 updates recently. Is this related to EOL? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20191130023731.GA3570%40danwin1210.me.
