Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: On 10/19/2012 2:56 PM, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Rick Jones wrote: Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: I suppose there's no hope of getting Microsoft to fix Office? I suspect that Office automagically wraps long lines when displaying messages, meaning that in an Office context there is nothing perceived to be broken. I'm certain there is a sending message format option to wrap lines there somewhere. It may be so but, from time to time, someone posts something with 400 characters and NO carriage-return or new line! It may be that Microsoft something can render these lines but not all of us can afford Microsoftmumble to read mail, news and/or other text nor should we have to! I read and post with slrn. It nicely wraps those long lines at a word boundary. Maybe Thunderbird can do it as well, when you enable it somewhere. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
[ntp:questions] Mails to webmas...@ntp.org unanswered?
I sent an e-mail to webmas...@ntp.org a week back, but have received no answer. Perhaps I'll repeat the suggestion here == May I suggest two additional programs which could be listed on the page: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/ExternalTimeRelatedLinks These are my NTP Monitor and NTP Plotter programs, both for Windows. NTP Monitor - graphical check on the state of multiple NTP servers http://www.satsignal.eu/software/net.htm#NTPmonitor NTP Plotter - graphical analysis of NTP loopstats and peerstats log files. http://www.satsignal.eu/software/net.htm#NTPplotter Both of these programs have proved popular with NTP users, hence my suggestion to add them to that page. == -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
Rob wrote: Maybe Thunderbird can do it as well, when you enable it somewhere. Thunderbird wraps for sending and has error recovery for viewing, but displays original text as written, and places initial s on that basis, when composing a reply. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: Rob wrote: Maybe Thunderbird can do it as well, when you enable it somewhere. Thunderbird wraps for sending and has error recovery for viewing, but displays original text as written, and places initial s on that basis, when composing a reply. That sounds like a bug or limitation, maybe you can fix it. In fact I think the concept of using single lines on transmission and leave the wrapping to the receiver is a very sound one. The fixed line layout originally defined on e-mail and usenet worked well on the 80x24 terminals popular at the time, but today we have resizable windows and many people use proportional fonts. In such an environment, the layout of flowing text is best left to the receiver. (so it can re-flow when you make the window smaller, for example) ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
Rob wrote: terminals popular at the time, but today we have resizable windows and many people use proportional fonts. In such an environment, the layout of flowing text is best left to the receiver. (so it can re-flow when you make the window smaller, for example) Thunderbird has the best of both worlds when used with conforming email clients (Outlook is non-conforming). It wraps the lines, with a trailing space on re-wrappable lines, and includes a special clause in the headers, as defined in RFC 3676, which tells aware clients that they can reflow. Legacy clients use the line wraps from the sender. RFC 3676 aware clients, like Thunderbird, re-wrap to fit the actual window size. However, when replying, it quotes incoming lines according to the standards, so if the line is very long, it is very long in the edit window. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
Rob wrote: David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: Rob wrote: Maybe Thunderbird can do it as well, when you enable it somewhere. Thunderbird wraps for sending and has error recovery for viewing, but displays original text as written, and places initial s on that basis, when composing a reply. That sounds like a bug or limitation, maybe you can fix it. If Thunderbird is like the other Mozilla programs (I use SeaMonkey) it has a key combination (Alt-E W(rap)) which will reflow all quoted text when I'm about to write a reply and discover that the sender used something more or less braindead to compose it. This also fixes the case where too many layers of quoting have indented the original post too far. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore GPS as Stratum 1 source
On 10/19/2012 11:01 PM, John Hasler wrote: Richard B. Gilbert writes: ...not all of us can afford Microsoftmumble to read mail... And some us wouldn't use it if paid to do so. However, some MUAs such as Gnus have format message commands that can render such a mess readable. I'll be damned if I'll spend money or time on it. If I can't read mail conveniently because a MicroSoft product sends 1200 character lines, making it unreadable, I'll just not read it Most people that I want to exchange mail with do not send in formats that I cannot read. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
