Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] zune
I'm surprised that some of you do not know how the zune system works. The issue I am concerned about is not purchasing individual songs for $0.99 or whatever. It is the music SUBSCRIPTION service that I need. I pay $14.99 per month and can download or stream (I prefer to download the tracks), and I can access a large amount of music. I know some of you do not like this idea, but please see it from another point of view. For those on a low income, it allows them to have access and experience much more music then they could otherwise. Unlike services like Pandora or Slacker, I can listen to whatever song I want when I want, as long as it is in the library. This way I can still have legal access to music at a cost I can afford. I can't do this with itunes or any other non-drm'd service. -- interspectrum interspectrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75848 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Larger Clock when alarm is on?
erland;549301 Wrote: The When alarm menu will only be available if the Custom alarm window patch has been installed. Hi Erland, I've installed the Custom alarm window patch - seemingly successfully (it shows as checked in the patch installer). However, I don't get a When Alarm option under the Custom Clock Settings. I've rebooted a couple of times, but no joy as yet. Any thoughts ? ReadyNas Duo running SBS 7.5, SBR firmware updated. -- squishy squishy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35390 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78973 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] zune
interspectrum;550153 Wrote: I'm surprised that some of you do not know how the zune system works. The issue I am concerned about is not purchasing individual songs for $0.99 or whatever. It is the music SUBSCRIPTION service that I need. I pay $14.99 per month and can download or stream (I prefer to download the tracks), and I can access a large amount of music. I know some of you do not like this idea, but please see it from another point of view. For those on a low income, it allows them to have access and experience much more music then they could otherwise. Unlike services like Pandora or Slacker, I can listen to whatever song I want when I want, as long as it is in the library. This way I can still have legal access to music at a cost I can afford. I can't do this with itunes or any other non-drm'd service. Ah! You're looking for Logitech to have an App similar to the App they have for Rhapsody. I doubt that Microsoft would agree to this as it would cut into their profits on sales of the zune, but who knows, maybe they would agree to something like this. Well, and option (but not a good one, as it is another $10/mo subscription) is to take a look at Rhapsody: http://www.rhapsody.com/-discover -- Tony T Tony #63743; SBTouch #9834; SBRadio #9836; Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75848 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] zune
interspectrum;550153 Wrote: I'm surprised that some of you do not know how the zune system works. No, we know precisely how Zune works, which is why we (and many others based on Zune's low market share) avoid it. ;) I use Napster at $5 per month which has a much larger library than Zune and includes five song purchase downloads per month. All purchased and included free song downloads are 256k and DRM free. The subscription portion of such services, including Napster and Zune, will include DRM as you are not purchasing the song, just renting it per se from their library. I have nothing against MicroSoft, I've only ever used Windows OS's. But their management and restrictive policies of their music service is horrible in comparison to other services out there that specialize in music services and music downloads. Just as I like some Sony products. But I'd never get wrangled into their restrictive Sonic Stage music services and player preventing me from using my legally purchased music on any non-Sony hardware or software. :) You can always file an enhancement request here to add Zune Music Services. But as they are such a small segment, not well thought of in streaming circles, and are up against much better services like Rhapsody and Napster and Deezer (already well embedded in SqueezeBox service offerings) that it would likely not make sense for Logitech to fork over licensing payments to MicroSoft for the very few users that would choose Zune over the real players in the market. ;) And this assumes MicroSoft would even allow such licensing, at all. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75848 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ghost alarms
Just FYI for anyone who uses a Radio with SB Server: I downgraded to 7.4.2, re-enabled sync with mysqueezebox.com and everything works great. It's shocking how great the Radio is and how terrible the alarm functionality is. It makes me think there's a fundamental design flaw here in what should be a brain-dead-simple function. Take out all the talk about no battery backup and the rest and you still have the fundamentals that the alarms don't work correctly and the UI on the Radio to set and manage them is plain dumb. -- yobyot yobyot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79026 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Winamp Playlist???
Did you rescan after you added the list ? sbs has a playlist scan option too.. Do winamp and sbs has the same file path to the music ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79099 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] zune
interspectrum Wrote: The average consumer does not care about your religious wars. They just want their product to work with what ever content they might have. The free software folks love to say that information wants to be free. I say, content just wants to be played. Obviously not. But the average Squeezebox customer also doesn't use zune, but they would still have to PAY for the few ones who do if Logitech chose to pay royalties to MS for it. There's no free lunch, after all. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75848 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Is there bug reports available for all this on http://bugs.slimdevices.com ? If not, someone should probably register bug reports with as much informaiton as possible if we want the problems to be fixed. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
erland;550216 Wrote: Is there bug reports available for all this on http://bugs.slimdevices.com ? If not, someone should probably register bug reports with as much informaiton as possible if we want the problems to be fixed. We have http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16170 that's the closest thing I've found . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Based on your experience do you think the problem is mostly mysb.com? If mysb.com issues were fixed would that make your radio usable and make you relatively happy? It seems that mysb.com is the primary culprit in a number problems. I would be upset to if I bought the radio to use reliably with mysb.com and was unable to reliably do so. Personally, I never use mysb.com directly. Server is always on so I always use the server and access myapps via the server interface. I guess what I am trying to figure out is this a matter of a lot of different issues or one main culprit (mysb.com) causing the majority of the problems radio users are having. Filing bug reports would be crucial at this point. (that is is the user is not so fed up to return the radio or bash it with a hammer) -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio in the bathroom
Has anyone tried using a Squeezebox Radio as a bathroom radio. I am thinking of putting it on the shelf (an extension of the vanity) on the other side of my 6x7-foot bathroom from the bathtub. I am wondering if the humidity when I take a shower is going to be too much for it. I have friends with radios in their bathrooms, and they do OK, but I'm wondering if the Radio would be more sensitive to humidity. Has anyone tried this? Thanks, Lynn -- lgrant98001 lgrant98001's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21907 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79102 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Winamp Playlist???
Thanks! didn't know i needed to rescan the entire database every time I make a playlist. That's a real drag ... but at least it works. -- randyleahy randyleahy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79099 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Thank you 0xdeadbeef. :) I gave up on trying to log a bug when it was reported that users had to vote on bugs for them to be fixed. As I've said before, fixing bugs shouldn't be like a democracy - the radio does NOT work as advertised. I have called Logitech support on numerous occasions. They have blamed everything on my end and have not acknowledged any issues with the SBR. Funny though, all my other internet devices work fine. If MySB is the problem then they need to fix it and let their customers know there is an issue they are working on instead of burying their heads in the sand. Logitech DOES NOT CARE about their SBR customers. Period. Generally, actions speak louder than words but in this case we aren't even getting the words. Thank god today was a holiday because the alarm didn't fire AT ALL. My wife is so fed up with the gift (I was the dummy who bought it) that we are going back to old reliable - a $15 clock radio that reliably plays both AM and FM reliably. Can you image that Logitech?? -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio in the bathroom
I'm sure I've read of others using it in the bathroom just fine before. The designers would never give an official recommendation because it wasn't designed -specifically- for that use and only basic environmental testing was carried out (if any). However, I think some unofficial comments have stated that it should preform just fine and be just as good as other regular speakers in the same area if not better. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79102 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Winamp Playlist???
randyleahy;550250 Wrote: Thanks! didn't know i needed to rescan the entire database every time I make a playlist. That's a real drag ... but at least it works. There is 3 types of scan clear and rescan new and changed and only rescan playlists only rescan playlist is fast use that. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79099 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
brucegrr;550230 Wrote: Based on your experience do you think the problem is mostly mysb.com? If mysb.com issues were fixed would that make your radio usable and make you relatively happy? From a customer's perspective it's hard to tell which parts of the current issues are caused by bad system design, bad software implementation on the radio and bad server setup. Probably an unhealthy mixture of all three points. Then again, as a customer I don't have to care: the Radio is advertised to work without a local server and in the 6 or 7 months I owned it, it hardly ever did. brucegrr;550230 Wrote: I guess what I am trying to figure out is this a matter of a lot of different issues or one main culprit (mysb.com) causing the majority of the problems radio users are having. The problem we're having is one of bad management, too few people with too little experience working on too many different projects and failing completely. It's not like the issues started with the 7.5.0 update. Most of the issues exist since the release of the Radio and they were already reported back then. In 6 months, it should be possible to hire some people who are actually capable of fixing the design/implementation/setup issues. Instead they decided to tinker with them alongside the Touch development. Bad decision. brucegrr;550230 Wrote: Filing bug reports would be crucial at this point. (that is is the user is not so fed up to return the radio or bash it with a hammer) Filing bug reports is a complete waste of time. Been there, did this. In all the years that I filed bug reports, I hardly ever saw a positive outcome. Usually bugs are defined as solved without solving them or they are made duplicates of (more or less) unrelated bugs and then closed etc. Every now and then I still get some automatic feedback on some bugs I filed years ago for the SB classic, but since my original report was merged/marked as duplicate, it's usually hard to tell what the heck this message has to do with my original report. Usually nothing. All the reports I filed last year for the Radio were closed/merged/ignored as well, so why do you think that filing new bug reports over and over again would change the minds of the Logitech folks who obviously decided to simply ignore all the known and obvious issues with the Radio? -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Thanks for sharing your experience/viewpoint. I don't own a radio. I have had thoughts of buying one/two but these ongoing problems have scared me off. My classic and boom are rock solid...rarely a problem. The boom is our clock and alarm and it has never missed. Consumers should be able to expect products to work as advertised. Bruce -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
