Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Steve Baumgarten wrote: I'd love to experiment with this -- does anyone have a How To guide to get SqueezeSlave up and running on a Raspberry PI? Because to be honest that seems like a pretty fair replacement for the Duet receiver. (OK, maybe a little more hobbyist than some people might prefer, but then again, that gets us right back to Slimdevices's roots.) SBB Might be best continuing this in a different thread - but simplest way ... use SqueezePlug (complete image) - step-by-step see my blog for an example (the video linked to above came from it). Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mherger wrote: After a week of questions and answers scattered all around the place I decided to 'review my initial posting' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radiop=714295viewfull=1#post714295) to give a more complete picture of the changes ahead. Please feel free to ask questions while we are preparing a FAQ section. why not random play? for me it's very important, it's a good way to listen to my whole library. a question: how can i do to avoid next radio update? i don't want my radio SB becomes as the new radio. nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
garym wrote: yes, triode's plugins can work without mysb.com /[/url] that would be good. now i need a spotify account... also, lastfm would work without mysB? nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mherger wrote: What it does _NOT_ mean: - there are NO plans to pull the plug on anything SB related (mysb.com, forums etc.) Michael The only thing I can conclude from this double negation that Logitech WILL pull the plug. I must say Logitech managers have done a miserable PR job not making a clear public statement on their website along with the UE introduction that there will be continuity for at least the mysb.com to ensure that users who bought a RADIO, will have a RADIO for a considerable time! pz1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51957 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
nervoteso wrote: a question: how can i do to avoid next radio update? i don't want my radio SB becomes as the new radio. It won't upgrade automatically. Users are supposed to decide on their own, whether they want to upgrade to the UE platform (whenever Logitech is ready to have an official upgrade path). bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
What good is it if one desires a COMPLETE music system when all you can synch are multiple UE Radios. In order for the UE system to be a complete home stereo audio system there must be a device (Touch-equivelent) that connects your main stereo components to these little monaural radios. And what good is having stereo capabilities in the kitchen or bathroom when to do so you mus have TWO UE Radios. I know my wife would object to that as do I. Who would actually think this is cool??? By LOGITECH not producing a Touch-equivalant for the stereo system they have lowered themselves in the marketplace and they no longer are competitive with SONOS but are more like the GRACE Internet radio. I believe that the sales of these radios are going to be limited just like the GRACE radio. It's hard for me to believe that LOGITECH really wants to go in that direction in that they have had the technological savvy to be more than that. I don't think they want to lose that vast audio-affectionado marketplace. I still believe that LOGITECH will not let this full system capability fade away. Why would they? Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
pssc wrote: Did they stash the patches anyware uesful? looking like the audio may be a portaudio arm issue. Phill. Nope. Had to make them myself. Attached. +---+ |Filename: sdl-event-cue-length.patch.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13686| +---+ ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Error: Invalid Pandors Login Information
MDubya, You are installing and managing the Pandora app from www.MySqueezeBox.com? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96264 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Don't panic just yet. Wait and see, it is very early days for the Logitech UE brand. I am sure this is *not* going to be the only device from Logitech that uses the usesmartradio.com web site and UE Music Library server software. That would be a huge waste of opportunity and resources. I am actually quite optimistic that this merging of a headphone and portable speaker brand with the Squeezebox technology will bring network music steaming and sync to the mainstream. It will become easy to set up and use consumer electronics rather than sitting in a geeky computer/hi-fi crossover niche. That will give it broader availability, wider marketing and a better chance of acceptance by the general public and hence a a long term future as Sonos's first serious competition. It is Sonos's Play:5 and Play:3 boombox units that have widened their appeal to the mass market and it is what they are marketing most vigorously in the UK. However they are seriously over-priced and a competitor is needed to bring the entry cost down. That is what Logitech have a chance of doing with the UE brand, if they get it right. Logitech cannot comment, because they never comment on products in development, but if there is not -at least- one more UE usesmartradio.com / UE Music Library (UEML?) device available before December I will eat my proverbial hat. Personally I would like to see a Touch-like player first, but with UE's portable speaker and headphone heritage in mind I think it is more likely to be a portable stereo boom-box to complement the Smart Radio. I also imagine it will more closely resemble the UE portable bluetooth speakers rather than the old Squeezebox Boom, so a bigger redesign would be needed and hence it would take longer to bring to the market. Eventually I am sure there will also be a speaker-less player, but suspect this will be the last new product line as it will have least mass-market appeal. As a geeky computer / hi-fi crossover myself I will miss Squeezebox when it finally goes, however I fully understand Logitech's reasoning in shifting its focus to the consumer electronics mainstream where, in my opinion, this technology rightly belongs. Ikabob wrote: What good is it if one desires a COMPLETE music system when all you can synch are multiple UE Radios. In order for the UE system to be a complete home stereo audio system there must be a device (Touch-equivelent) that connects your main stereo components to these little monaural radios. And what good is having stereo capabilities in the kitchen or bathroom when to do so you must have TWO UE Radios. I know my wife would object to that as do I. Who would actually think this is cool??? By LOGITECH not producing a Touch-equivalant for the stereo system they have lowered themselves in the marketplace and they no longer are competitive with SONOS but are more like the GRACE Internet radio. I believe that the sales of these radios are going to be limited just like the GRACE radio. It's hard for me to believe that LOGITECH really wants to go in that direction in that they have had the technological savvy to be more than that. I don't think they want to lose that vast audio-affectionado marketplace. I still believe that LOGITECH will not let this full system capability fade away. Why would they? TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Might be best continuing this in a different thread - but simplest way ... use SqueezePlug (complete image) - step-by-step see my blog for an example (the video linked to above came from it). Makes sense. Thanks for the tip about your blog, good step-by-step there: http://dabdig.blogspot.com/ Was also just thinking about getting another Radio (while possible) and using the headphone out jack to drive L/R RCA audio in on an amp that doesn't have an HDMI connector (which I think is needed w/the Raspberry Pi). My Duet receiver is hooked up this way now; I'm just thinking ahead to when the receiver dies. Compared to the Pi, the radio costs about $100 more (though still less than a Touch, or for that matter the combo of an iPod Touch running iPeng as the client, and a dock of some kind). On the other hand it has Wifi built in and in general requires zero setup, runs fanless, etc., all those good things, and like all Squeezebox gear you can stick it in a closet and forget it, control via iPeng or the like. SBB ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Just to clarify one thing that may be a bit misleading here: mherger wrote: - no need to create an account to use it - only once you decide to use one of the music services you need an account on uesmartradio.com (I'll refer to this as uesr.com...). Connect it to your network - done. - local music still can be listened to through the UE Music Library. This successor of LMS concentrates on inventorying your music files, but doesn't have the bells and whistles and overwhelming number of options of LMS. You will also need to create an account if you want to use either of - remote control through the App - local music listening. So essentially the only thing you can do without an account is play internet radio using the built-in UI on the Radio. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
bluegaspode wrote: I fully agree to you whole post, but I don't expect anything for christmas. Typically companies use big consumer shows to introduce stuff and to create buzz and this was IFA in Germany now, but next bing thing is only CES in January? So I rather expect anything for easter earliest. If they would have something in their minds that has a chance to become real life for christmas, they would have it announced by now I guess. And I they don't have anything with finished looks, than its unrealistic that they get it ready for christmas (beta testing + production etc.) That's what worries me. The new future *currently* defines only a standalone UE smart radio - and anything else (eg a Touch equivalent) presumably depends on it's success. So Logitech must be gambling that there is enough take-up of the UE radio to provide the needed momentum for their new Smart model. With no backward compatibility, its unlikely to be the existing community that drive the sales. I know I won't be buying one. Three years ago I bought into the Squeezebox paradigm - based primarily on the radio. So am I evidence of a market for standalone radios ? I'm not so sure... I knew that there were other clients (Transporter/Classic) and I planned to grow my system. As it turned out, I ended up expanding using the new Touch, but my decision was based on the knowledge of existing products. I was also investing in a NAS (and disks) to run SBS so I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have taken a huge leap of faith if all that existed was the radio. So, I personally think that it would be insanity to not have an audiophile product as a fast-follower of the radio. Ben's enlightening email doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling that Logitech have their finger on the pulse. We can only hope that those employees who contribute here are listened to. squishy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35390 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
squishy wrote: So Logitech must be gambling that there is enough take-up of the UE radio to provide the needed momentum for their new Smart model. With no backward compatibility, its unlikely to be the existing community that drive the sales. I know I won't be buying one. This community represents a tiny part of all Squeezebox users. Also, when searching on Google for Squeezebox this forum ends on the first page of the results, when searching for UE Smart Radio this forum is not anywhere near the the top. So I think it's unlikely that this community will drive any sales, neither directly nor indirectly through recommendations in the near future. If Logitech want the sales of UE Smart Radio to increase quickly they need to find other places to advertise it than through this forum and its members. This might also be something they are aware of and might be a reason why we have seen so little about Squeezebox and this community in the official announcements/statements. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
There is a precedent, Freecom brought out a ir, MusicPal, c 2007. They dropped the product about 2 years ago yet they they continue their support on the Freecom forum. Unfortunately they are not as successful as Castalla on his Reciva forum in repelling the spam merchants. Gealt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Don't know what others feel, but I am a die hard user of mysqueezebox.com to play internet radio endlessly.I have stored nos of stations in favorite and using other application like Spotify, Tune in radio,Shoutcast others.I was very happy as it doesn't force me to keep any pc ON only for the sake of running LMS on it.Now, with present scenario I am really worried about the fate of mysqueezebox.com.What can be the other alternative ? Will i have to keep my PC or laptop ON dedicatedly for enjoying Internet Radio ? umapati's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Gealt wrote: There is a precedent, Freecom brought out a ir, MusicPal, c 2007. They dropped the product about 2 years ago yet they they continue their support on the Freecom forum. Unfortunately they are not as successful as Castalla on his Reciva forum in repelling the spam merchants. Just a clarification ... it's not my reciva forum. I'm just a mod - it's run by That British Bloke (Alan Hill). Spammers are kept out by a strict registration procedure where the user ip is checked against a spammer database system. Even I got banned once because my ip had been detected as a spammer due to a very severe virus infection! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
umapati wrote: Don't know what others feel, but I am a die hard user of mysqueezebox.com to play internet radio endlessly.I have stored nos of stations in favorite and using other application like Spotify, Tune in radio,Shoutcast others.I was very happy as it doesn't force me to keep any pc ON only for the sake of running LMS on it.Now, with present scenario I am really worried about the fate of mysqueezebox.com.What can be the other alternative ? Will i have to keep my PC or laptop ON dedicatedly for enjoying Internet Radio ? You are Logitech's ideal customer for the UE Smart Radio. But you won't need to buy one, Logitech have provided a way of simply upgrading the firmware of your current Radio to the new UE system (sometime in the next year or two, no need to panic yet!!) and you will be able to continue using it without a local server. Unfortunately you will lose all your favorites - a real pain. You will just have to write down all the relevant URLs before you perform the switch from Squeezebox to UE Smart Radio firmware. As far as I can tell all the radio stations and streaming services currently available via mysqueezebox.com will continue to be offered by http://uesmartradio.com TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
TheLastMan wrote: You are Logitech's ideal customer for the UE Smart Radio. But you won't need to buy one, Logitech have provided a way of simply upgrading the firmware of your current Radio to the new UE system (sometime in the next year or two, no need to panic yet!!) and you will be able to continue using it without a local server. Unfortunately you will lose all your favorites - a real pain. You will just have to write down all the relevant URLs before you perform the switch from Squeezebox to UE Smart Radio firmware. As far as I can tell all the radio stations and streaming services currently available via mysqueezebox.com will continue to be offered by http://uesmartradio.com The list is here: http://ue.logitech.com/en-gb/articles/smart-radio-services Anything missing? thanks a lot for the reply..but will it allow me to play my local music (which I seldom play) stored on my PC or A connected external powered HD to that PC ? umapati's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
TheLastMan wrote: Logitech cannot comment, because they never comment on products in development, but if there is not -at least- one more UE usesmartradio.com / UE Music Library (UEML?) device available before December I will eat my proverbial hat. Personally I would like to see a Touch-like player first, but with UE's portable speaker and headphone heritage in mind I think it is more likely to be a portable stereo boom-box to complement the Smart Radio. Well if they want to create a Touch like player, they did 3 bad moves: - The website naming: uesmartradio.com (they didn't think of the future when choosing such a URL) - The fact that we always need to be connected to the internet to be able to listen to local content - The Random Mix is missing! As a massive Squeezebox user (owner of 8 players), I won't be upgrading and/or buy and/or promote UE devices unless they would find a solution for - Random Mix - playing local music without internet - synch with new/old devices. I really understand they want to simplify the user experience. But they could also have given the possibility for Squeezebox users to offer an advanced user experience we used to have... didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Logitech seems to make make wrong suggestions on their product WEB site about UE smartradio. After reading the Technical Specifications, an un-educated reader might expect to buy a stereo radio, which I think it isn't. Technical Specifications GENERAL 2.4-inch color LCD Ambient light sensor to adjust display brightness according to environment Six preset buttons allow one touch access to favorite radio stations and playlists Alarm clock with 7 days of settings Line-in via 3.5 mm stereo jack Built-in 802.11g (802.11b compatible) wireless Speakers and Amplifier ¾-inch high-definition, soft-dome tweeter and 3-inch high-power, long-throw woofer Bi-amplified class D design with digital electronic crossover pz1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51957 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Hi, I only have a SB Radio (I listen to all my music in my home through it) so this doesn't have to be the end of the world for me but I have a couple of questions. 1. Can the new Radio scrobble music to last.fm? 2. Can I make playlists with a mix of local music and music from spotify and save these playlists either on computer, app on a iOS device or on uesr.com? I guess my existing playlists will be of no use. I was going to buy another SB Radio because the old Boom does not work with the official Spotify plugin but I think I have to wait now. sadglad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42159 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
erland wrote: This community represents a tiny part of all Squeezebox users. You may be right of course. If there is a legion of radio-only users out there who are content with the sound of one small speaker and very litte bass, then by the same token the UE radio should sell like hot cakes. Don't get me wrong, I love my radio - but as a standalone music player it's uses are specific. It's not hifi. So I have assumed (maybe incorrectly) that most owners use it like myself, with at least one other product. Which puts them in the camp of legacy users. That's the group I was really referring to as the community - rather than necessarily this forum. But Logitech presumably have the data from mysb registrations to know the demographics. So maybe it's a calculated gamble - although that's giving them a lot of credit. squishy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35390 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Osamede wrote: Logitech has no clue. What they need to do is focus on making outstanding hardware, provide a nice interface and the platform for people to create and - then get out of the way. Instead they are busy trying to build some sort of 3rd rate walled garden. Doomed to fail. This I agree with, sadly. Have you seen that UE intro video for the new brand? It's bizarre. There is a company that has absolutely no idea what they are doing. It's a confusing mashup of products, some Bluetooth, some based on Squeezebox, some tacky looking earphones (oooh, their bendy...). No focus, they just lumped a load of stuff together and thrown it at the wall to see what sticks. There is no commonality or design ethic between then, other than being music related. I have to agree, the UE and smart radio approach certainly does seem likely to fail IMO. autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
autopilot wrote: This I agree with, sadly. Have you seen that odd UE intro video for the new brand? It's bizarre. There is a company that has absolutely no idea what they are doing. It's a confusing mashup of products, some Bluetooth, some based on Squeezebox, some tacky looking earphones (oooh, their bendy...). No focus, they just lumped a load of stuff together and thrown it at the wall to see what sticks. There is no commonality or design ethic between them, other than being music related. I have to agree, the UE and smart radio approach certainly does seem likely to fail IMO.Actually these are mainly just rebranded items previously available from Ultimate Ears before they were bought out by Logitech. They are a brand that previously only sold items for music on the move (earphones, headphones and portable speakers). The Radio is probably their least substantial product. UE had the SB technology foisted on them and are probably not too happy about it. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Osamede wrote: Instead they are busy trying to build some sort of 3rd rate walled garden. Logitech exec #1: Hey, if Apple can do it, why can't we? Doomed to fail. Logitech exec #2: Yeah! And we could sell them the tracks for $5 each! pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
pallfreeman wrote: Logitech exec #1: Hey, if Apple can do it, why can't we? Logitech exec #2: Yeah! And we could sell them the tracks for $5 each! Surely they already skim something off for all those paid/sub apps ... ??? castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
TheLastMan wrote: Actually these are mainly just rebranded items previously available from Ultimate Ears before they were bought out by Logitech. They are a brand that previously only sold items for music on the move (earphones, headphones and portable speakers). The Radio is probably their least substantial product. UE had the SB technology foisted on them and are probably not too happy about it. I think this is also the answer to the question as to why they introduced UE Smart Radio as their first and so far only offering on the music streaming front: it already exists. Sounds like the work of some marketing genius. No innovative products ready to introduce, so let's just change up the website and change the logo on some 3-year old hardware, and voila! A whole new product line! Interestingly, Logitech UE is playing up its audiophile pretensions on its website, yet the one SB it keeps is the furthest thing from audiophile in the legacy portfolio. How strange. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
squishy wrote: So, I personally think that it would be insanity to not have an audiophile product as a fast-follower of the radio. I'm none too sure Logitech agrees with you on that. The whole Squeezebox product line began as a way to do audiophile (in those days, defined as using lossless files instead of MP3s) to your home audio system. Their next product was an even higher-end transport that could do 24/96. As far as I can tell, neither of those was a major hit in the marketplace. It was only when decidedly non-audiophile SB radios came along that sales started climbing. Does that mean that I think an audiophile, high-res streaming device for one's stereo is a non-starter? Not necessarily, only that Logitech is the wrong company for marketing to that group. The fact is that Logitech is primarily a volume peripherals and accessories company whose mission is to deliver inexpensive products just below the price-point of their major competitors (i.e. mice and keyboards for slightly less than Microsoft). I think they can get their head around an inexpensive desktop radio that allows you to stream content online. A device that allows you to build a collection of music on your computer, then stream it wirelessly to a digital input on your DAC or receiver? Not so much. Then again, Sonos hasn't been setting the world on fire, either. Maybe it's just the case that the market for audiophile streaming products tends to be more upscale and more ready to go with solutions from established manufacturers and dealers. Maybe, say, if the Touch had been developed by a company like Krell or Audio Research, and had cost ten times its retail price, it might have done...well, not better in terms of sales, but possibly in terms of overall profit. the nightfly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Actually Logitech should have put more effort into licensing to AV receiver makers higher end models ( specifically allowing them to build in the Squeezebox streaming system and perhaps even the touch control interface). Then kept the mono radio business on its own alongside that. And put more effort into dummy options for the interface and back end server. Not dumbing down the capabilities - just making simpler options for the half-wit majority. As it is Logitech have basically thrown away their business here, by first crippling the product and then incurring the cost of rebranding it with a near-useless brand. name. This is 1+1=0. Very hard to do, but they've pulled it off here. Impressive. Osamede's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
sadglad wrote: Hi, I only have a SB Radio (I listen to all my music in my home through it) so this doesn't have to be the end of the world for me but I have a couple of questions. 1. Can the new Radio scrobble music to last.fm? 2. Can I make playlists with a mix of local music and music from spotify and save these playlists either on computer, app on a iOS device or on uesr.com? I guess my existing playlists will be of no use. I was going to buy another SB Radio because the old Boom does not work with the official Spotify plugin but I think I have to wait now. I'm not sure anyone knows the answers to these questions yet. Probably yes to both, but just not sure based on everything I've read so far. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Error: Invalid Pandors Login Information
toby10 wrote: MDubya, You are installing and managing the Pandora app from www.MySqueezeBox.com? Yes. On the MySqueezeBox.com page it correctly shows my current Pandora account in the Current Accounts box, with the option to remove it. Below that it says: Player (SqueezePlay), Account (my correct Pandora account), Status (Enabled), Home (Do not display on Home menu). MDubya's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57087 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96264 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Does killing SB line indicates end of all my (our- SB lovers) devices. I just love SB3 white genuine Slimdevices version that is like my first SB family baby I will never sell. I have less attachment to the Controller and the Squeezebox Receiver but it is my music family I cannot live without. I gave one radio to my brother to bring him to SB family. Just all these news breaks my heart. I believe Squeezebox is my best ever discovery in new ways of listening to music and radio when I am at home at work and far away from home. I even travel every year to Europe with Controller and the Squeezebox Receiver to listen to my stuff over audio system while visiting parents for Christmas. I am in deep shock. Sorry for all this talk. Hope all these old SB units will be functional for more than sometime Any ideas? ARTMU's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57136 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
