Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
aubuti wrote: > Hmm, these latest posts raise a question about the UE Smart Radio that I > don't think I've seen discussed so far. There is fairly widespread > agreement that the SB Radio's design to require a server connection to > trigger the alarm was a bad idea. Even the old SB Radio has enough > smarts to do that on its own. Does the new UE Radio do any better on > this score, ie, did they learn from their mistake on the SB Radio? Given > the internet-centric approach of the UE Radio I would suspect not. > > And the obvious subsidiary question: if the main alarm fails, is the > fallback alarm -still- Fa Fa Fa by Datarock? Don't know about 2nd question, but you can set and delete alarms on uesmartradio.com which I suspect answers the first. Tim onlyconnect's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Mnyb wrote: > Hey have they no sense of humor , why not holiday in Cambodia with Dead > Kennnedys ;) Now that I would appreciate! (Besides being an infinitely better song than Fa Fa Fa, Holiday in Cambodia has always had a special place in my heart since college days, when some friends went into a local pizza place that was blasting it out of their speakers, and it so happened that it was tuned in to my radio show.) aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
aubuti wrote: > Hmm, these latest posts raise a question about the UE Smart Radio that I > don't think I've seen discussed so far. There is fairly widespread > agreement that the SB Radio's design to require a server connection to > trigger the alarm was a bad idea. Even the old SB Radio has enough > smarts to do that on its own. Does the new UE Radio do any better on > this score, ie, did they learn from their mistake on the SB Radio? Given > the internet-centric approach of the UE Radio I would suspect not. > > And the obvious subsidiary question: if the main alarm fails, is the > fallback alarm -still- Fa Fa Fa by Datarock? Hey have they no sense of humor , why not holiday in Cambodia with Dead Kennnedys ;) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Hmm, these latest posts raise a question about the UE Smart Radio that I don't think I've seen discussed so far. There is fairly widespread agreement that the SB Radio's design to require a server connection to trigger the alarm was a bad idea. Even the old SB Radio has enough smarts to do that on its own. Does the new UE Radio do any better on this score, ie, did they learn from their mistake on the SB Radio? Given the internet-centric approach of the UE Radio I would suspect not. And the obvious subsidiary question: if the main alarm fails, is the fallback alarm -still- Fa Fa Fa by Datarock? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
onlyconnect wrote: > OK, so there are 4 power states? > > 1. Really off > 2. Deep standby (able to restart for alarm) > 3. Standby (shows clock) > 4. On > > I tried this yesterday (on UE Smart Radio) and my experiment failed, ie. > an alarm was set, unit was off and it did not sound. However it might > have been in state (1) I am not 100% sure. > > Update: tried again today and it worked. > > Tim Ok,you have an UE so it work on one of those to . If you have the old squeezebox radio it will in fact also wake the server 5 minutes in advance of the alarm if you have a local server and uses it and your own files for wake up . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Mnyb wrote: > It works it reboots itself before the alarm time is up , given that > there is any power left in the battery . > > But not if you turned it *really* of by holding down the powerbutton for > a while . OK, so there are 4 power states? 1. Really off 2. Deep standby (able to restart for alarm) 3. Standby (shows clock) 4. On I tried this yesterday (on UE Smart Radio) and my experiment failed, ie. an alarm was set, unit was off and it did not sound. However it might have been in state (1) I am not 100% sure. Tim onlyconnect's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
onlyconnect wrote: > Am I right in thinking that the alarm does not work on battery power, > since the unit automatically turns off? > > Tim It works it reboots itself before the alarm time is up , given that there is any power left in the battery . But not if you turned it *really* of by holding down the powerbutton for a while . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Am I right in thinking that the alarm does not work on battery power, since the unit automatically turns off? Tim onlyconnect's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Yeah, the difficulty in changing via the knob is intentional. As others noted, the Power button is my method for turning off the alarm. I don't use SNOOZE, but I think the intention is pushing the Knob is normally the Snooze. As for the weather question, I use SuperDateTime along with Erland's custom clock applet for my "when off" screensaver - I don't remember if I posted the actual screensaver I use, but if so it may be available right in the Custom Clock settings. I made the clock display large since that is my bedside clock, along with current weather lower left, and it rotates through several days of forcasts in lower right. Works great. (Does require Squeezeboxserver). -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
ok, guys Today morning I counted exactly 6 clicks before the selection line moved down to 'cancel', and then 6 clicks counter clock-wise - one line up to 'snooze'. Voila. I marked the bug as 'resolved' :) I am looking into making SBR sound like a normal alarm clock now.. -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Gosh- as a user who bought the Radio as a replacement for a conventional clock radio that was on its last legs and have used it with only mysqeezebox.com as an alarm clock without much difficulty and excellent reliability for over a year, I have to say that you all seem to have made things unnecessarily complicated. Just set one of you favorite stations as the alarm sound. If you like to awake to news or weather take a station that has news or weather at that time of day and make it a favorite or if you like music choose a music station or one of the services like Pandora, etc, and make it a favorite. Then you will wake up to the sound of your favorite. As to turning it off. In the most recent revision of the firmware a change was made to the alarm off function. According to the developers, users had complained that in the morning fog, people were accidentally turning the big knob to off before pressing it when they though they were pressing snooze and going back to the land of nod. What they did was to change the amount of knob twirl required to change from the default "snooze" to "of". So now you do have to spin it longer before you can access "off". However, the power button works perfectly well if you need to ditch the sound in a hurry. The radio works perfectly satisfactorily once you get used to the fact that it works somewhat differently from a conventional clock radio. It's like getting used to a new wallet or bifocals, anything that you have used daily over a long period. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
bluegaspode;663687 Wrote: > I press the Power Button to turn the alarm off. > Easy too find in the bottom right corner. > > If you want to snooze, push the volume button. Also easy to find. > > I prefer these dedicated buttons, because remembering if I need to turn > the big knob or not before pressing it, is too much for my consciousness > when waking up. Ok, I will use power instead of pause. Yet, turning the knob selects the menu item (and no need to hear 6 clicks!), so it is an obvious bug. -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
I press the Power Button to turn the alarm off. Easy too find in the bottom right corner. If you want to snooze, push the volume button. Also easy to find. I prefer these dedicated buttons, because remembering if I need to turn the big knob or not before pressing it, is too much for my consciousness when waking up. -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
copperstate;663676 Wrote: > Did you try to rotate the big knob in both directions? It takes about 6 > clicks (clockwise iirc) before you are able to cancel the alarm this > way. I suspect - yes, but I will try tomorrow. At six o'clock in the morning, it is quite stressful situation when you need to get up quickly and don't wake your kids up. Eventually, I click on 'pause'..which obviously stops the alarm, what is not obvious is then right after I see an error message regarding 'network connection'.. But I do not care at that moment.. the most important is to shut this thingy down. It is crazy how this simplest thing could be so poorly designed. The hardware is good, the architecture is good, software - is what sucks.. -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
michael123;663584 Wrote: > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17662 Did you try to rotate the big knob in both directions? It takes about 6 clicks (clockwise iirc) before you are able to cancel the alarm this way. -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17662 -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
michael123;663329 Wrote: > I need to rotate it first to move one line down to 'cancel' (since it > highlights 'snooze' option) and then - push. > > How can I move the sound file to Radio itself? > I want it to be able to play the alarm regardless of the server, > storage, network, ... > > I did not find a display option on the SBS for Radio. > Where/how do I customize it? 1) Well you could rotate the big knob to cancel and then push it. But I always found it easier -- especially when only 1/4 awake -- to simply push the volume button instead. It's not documented officially, but it works. Why do two steps when you can do one? 2) See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85079 . But that only works for the fallback alarm, not for the selected alarm. And unfortunately, you still need the network for the Radio to know that it needs to sound an alarm (crazy, but true). 3) Sorry, I'd have to have it front of me to answer that. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
For historical reasons the alarm function is mostly on the server even on Radio or Touch ( just like the old players ) . so it is not a local function on the device. So if network is down and mysb.com or server can't be reached you will get the fallback alarm. note that it can only remeber the next alarm , so it needs to say helo to the server once a day. You can replace the fallback alarm tune ( search forum there is an instruction involving scp ). if you then make sure that it can't reach any server you get the fallback tune as alarm . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
aubuti;663312 Wrote: > 1) The basic function is there, but you did the wrong thing. Don't > rotate the knob, push it. You can either snooze the alarm or cancel it. > The big knob does one of those and the volume button does the other, but > I can't remember which is which right now (I used the Radio for my alarm > for about 6 months, but that was a while ago). I *think* the big knob is > snooze, but I'm not at all sure about that. I need to rotate it first to move one line down to 'cancel' (since it highlights 'snooze' option) and then - push. aubuti;663312 Wrote: > 2) I feel the same way. If you are running a local SBS, you can find an > MP3 of an alarm sound you like, then add it to your music library, make > it a "Favorite", and select that as the alarm sound. I ended up > recording the old travel alarm I've used for 20 years. If you're > depending on mysb.com, then you don't have so many choices. How can I move the sound file to Radio itself? I want it to be able to play the alarm regardless of the server, storage, network, ... aubuti;663312 Wrote: > 3) I use the SuperDateTime applet (it also does weather), which you need > to combine with Erland's Custom Clock or something. There is also > bluegaspode's WeatherForecast applet. I did not find a display option on the SBS for Radio. Where/how do I customize it? -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Mnyb;663319 Wrote: > Fyi the " funny sounds" are not local to the radio they are at > mysqueezebox.com beats me why they have not a selection of alarms. > > there is *one* local alarm sound, the fallback tune you get when alarm > fails from mysb.com or the radio provider ( if you have a radiostation > as an alarm ). > > Btw radio issues an WOL signal 5 minutes before the alarm, so it can > wake an hibernating server . > > before the nic in my server gave up the ghost I used it this way with > my boom, but my server was completely off so I booted the server via > WOL ( wake on lan ). > > WOL requires that the server is conected with ethernet ( player can be > wifi ) and that it's harware supports WOL ,this is not always the case. The **storage** is offline, Squeezebox Server is up 24/7 I have two different boxes. I do not get still how to setup a normal alarm.. and what about shutting down the alarm? -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
michael123;663313 Wrote: > I cannot use music for alarm since my storage sleeps at night, and I do > not want to wake it up for that.. > > Is there a possibility to download somehow regular alarm of 5$ device > to SBR itself? Fyi the " funny sounds" are not local to the radio they are at mysqueezebox.com beats me why they have not a selection of alarms. there is *one* local alarm sound, the fallback tune you get when alarm fails from mysb.com or the radio provider ( if you have a radiostation as an alarm ). Btw radio issues an WOL signal 5 minutes before the alarm, so it can wake an hibernating server . before the nic in my server gave up the ghost I used it this way with my boom, but my server was completely off so I booted the server via WOL ( wake on lan ). WOL requires that the server is conected with ethernet ( player can be wifi ) and that it's harware supports WOL ,this is not always the case. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
toby10;663305 Wrote: > Radio > Settings > Advanced > Applet Installer > *uncheck* Recommended > Applets Only, now select Weather Forecast > > This is a screensaver, how/if it can be used with Alarms I do not know. thanks, I will check -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
michael123;663298 Wrote: > - When the alarm triggered, I could not stop it using knob. It was just > blocked. I saw on a screen an option to snooze and cancel, but I > rotated the knob and it did nothing. Eventually, I pressed on 'pause'. > Very bad. So basic function must be very reliable as for 5$ alarm > > - How do I make the alarm sound as regular alarm clock? I do not want > all these funny sounds > > - Is it possible to display on a screen additional information like > weather/temp cast? 1) The basic function is there, but you did the wrong thing. Don't rotate the knob, push it. You can either snooze the alarm or cancel it. The big knob does one of those and the volume button does the other, but I can't remember which is which right now (I used the Radio for my alarm for about 6 months, but that was a while ago). I *think* the big knob is snooze, but I'm not at all sure about that. 2) I feel the same way. If you are running a local SBS, you can find an MP3 of an alarm sound you like, then add it to your music library, make it a "Favorite", and select that as the alarm sound. I ended up recording the old travel alarm I've used for 20 years. If you're depending on mysb.com, then you don't have so many choices. 3) I use the SuperDateTime applet (it also does weather), which you need to combine with Erland's Custom Clock or something. There is also bluegaspode's WeatherForecast applet. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
Radio > Settings > Advanced > Applet Installer > *uncheck* Recommended Applets Only, now select Weather Forecast This is a screensaver, how/if it can be used with Alarms I do not know. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
use a file on your server with the desired sound . personally I always used an random mix of songs. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Small Package, Big Sound .. and awful alarm clock
I am quite impressed with the sound SBR produces (under moderate volume levels), really surprised me. The point is that I bought the device for alarm clock. And as such, I did not like it so far.. Questions: - When the alarm triggered, I could not stop it using knob. It was just blocked. I saw on a screen an option to snooze and cancel, but I rotated the knob and it did nothing. Eventually, I pressed on 'pause'. Very bad. So basic function must be very reliable as for 5$ alarm - How do I make the alarm sound as regular alarm clock? I do not want all these funny sounds - Is it possible to display on a screen additional information like weather/temp cast? I am using 7.7.0 rc5 Firmware of the SBR is 7.6.1-r9482 thanks, -- michael123 Michael michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90943 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
