Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
This is a great topic, I've always wondered how that works also. I always wanted to know what would happen if my internet went out and I had an alarm clock set up if it would just not go on or what but thats good to know now that it does have a backup beep sound. -- drumkey87 drumkey87's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39118 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
I have found the Boom is best (at the moment) for alarm functionality. As Mnyb says, there is a problem with some implementations of WOL and the Radio at the moment, whereas the Boom works well with WOL (if that's relevant to you). I also find the autodimming feature works better on the Boom than on the Radio at the moment (but I'm running the beta 7.5 software, so my experience may be different from someone running the release version). -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
Thank you Siduhe and Mnyb for your detailed explanations! Now I understand more how SB Radio works! Ill think about it.. maybe an SB Radio or maybe a boom/classic/other and a separate alarm clock. Ill also look into how the SB3 works in this regard, since Ive never used the SB3's alarm.. -- sand 2* Squeezebox 3 with Audioengine 5 speakers 1* QNAP TS-109, Version 2.1.0 build 0624T Seagate ES 500GB flipflip's SlimServer On TurboStation Release 3.14 mrhyde's USB swap util several of erland's plugins SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 22900 @ Tue Aug 26 10:59:02 PDT 2008 - Linux - EN - utf8 sand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
Siduhe;528762 Wrote: > It may be relevant to you, because your usage pattern of internet/server > may alter whether the Radio is going to suit your requirements or not. > I think that's what bluegaspode was getting at. > > The Radio is designed to be connected at all times to one of a) the > internet and/or b) a local server (whether PC, Mac or NAS). > > There is a fallback mechanism for the alarm, but it's only designed as > a failsafe rather than for regular use. > > If you have the server software running, but no internet access, then > an alarm sound which is a local music file will work as normal. If you > have an internet radio station set as your alarm, the fallback tone will > sound. However, the fallback tone will only work once, so you would > need to reconnect to the internet again for the next day's alarm to > work. You would also be limited to the fallback alarm sound - which is > a single beep. Some people find it too quiet, although it's worked for > me the few times I have needed to use it. > > If you have no software running, then as long as the Radio is connected > to Mysqueezebox.com, and have selected a radio station or similar > (rather than a local file) the alarm should work as normal. > > If you have no software and no internet, then you will only ever get > the fallback alarm - and again you would need to reconnect to the > internet/software again before any following alarms will work. > > In short, there is a fall back mechanism which should ensure the alarm > will sound, but it's not designed for everyday use. The Radio is > designed to be connected to at least one of the internet or the server > software at all times. If you want to switch off your NAS and > disconnect the Radio from the internet every night - it may not be the > right alarm for you (unless you really like the backup sound). > > Hope this helps. It can work when the WOL bug (for radio ) is fixed, I do this with a boom, but I use my server every day and turn it off at night, then WOL (Wake On Lan) boot's my server every morning, and play music for me :) "random song" Mozart or Metallica who knows ? But I do use it every day otherwise the "next alarm" memory of the player would not work. Must be a typical squeezebox persson I do use my squeezeboxes every time I'm home, so I don't have to think about the alarm. If I would listen to less music than I do, this strategy would fail. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) Miscellaneous use: Radio (battery pack to be ordered) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
It may be relevant to you, because your usage pattern of internet/server may alter whether the Radio is going to suit your requirements or not. I think that's what bluegaspode was getting at. The Radio is designed to be connected at all times to one of a) the internet and/or b) a local server (whether PC, Mac or NAS). There is a fallback mechanism for the alarm, but it's only designed as a failsafe rather than for regular use. If you have the server software running, but no internet access, then an alarm sound which is a local music file will work as normal. If you have an internet radio station set as your alarm, the fallback tone will sound. However, the fallback tone will only work once, so you would need to reconnect to the internet again for the next day's alarm to work. You would also be limited to the fallback alarm sound - which is a single beep. Some people find it too quiet, although it's worked for me the few times I have needed to use it. If you have no software running, then as long as the Radio is connected to Mysqueezebox.com, and have selected a radio station or similar (rather than a local file) the alarm should work as normal. If you have no software and no internet, then you will only ever get the fallback alarm - and again you would need to reconnect to the internet/software again before any following alarms will work. In short, there is a fall back mechanism which should ensure the alarm will sound, but it's not designed for everyday use. The Radio is designed to be connected to at least one of the internet or the server software at all times. Hope this helps. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
bluegaspode;528739 Wrote: > It sounds as if you wont to leave your internet/NAS switched off > intentionally ? > Everyday a fallback alarm is not nice ;) Doesnt matter why, its a simple question, I thought..? -- sand 2* Squeezebox 3 with Audioengine 5 speakers 1* QNAP TS-109, Version 2.1.0 build 0624T Seagate ES 500GB flipflip's SlimServer On TurboStation Release 3.14 mrhyde's USB swap util several of erland's plugins SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 22900 @ Tue Aug 26 10:59:02 PDT 2008 - Linux - EN - utf8 sand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
sand;528710 Wrote: > Thank you for replying. > I am asking about the Squeezebox Radio. > Before buying, I want to make sure that the clock and alarm will work > even if I have no internet or NAS switched on. > Otherwise I will use another device as alarm. It sounds as if you wont to leave your internet/NAS switched off intentionally ? Everyday a fallback alarm is not nice ;) -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
Thank you for replying. I am asking about the Squeezebox Radio. Before buying, I want to make sure that the clock and alarm will work even if I have no internet or NAS switched on. Otherwise I will use another device as alarm. -- sand 2* Squeezebox 3 with Audioengine 5 speakers 1* QNAP TS-109, Version 2.1.0 build 0624T Seagate ES 500GB flipflip's SlimServer On TurboStation Release 3.14 mrhyde's USB swap util several of erland's plugins SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 22900 @ Tue Aug 26 10:59:02 PDT 2008 - Linux - EN - utf8 sand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
Mnyb;528615 Wrote: > Sand has SB3's they do not have built in backup sound Didn't read the footer, and his posting is here in the Radio forum. So could've been targeted to a Radio :) Anyway - the boom beeps at least in that case. Maybe SB3 do also output some sound ? Just test it - then you know. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
Sand has SB3's they do not have built in backup sound. But on the other hand he have a local server, so using a local file on the NAS should work if the NAS is running 24/7 Note that the local server must be running,an SB3 do not have rtc so it cant' wol a server at time before an alarm if needed. Given this an alarm set up on the slimserver on the NAS using local files is a safe bet, you can play internet radio trough the NAS server too. But i don't know how it would function if internet is gone or the radio station is down. You should have a LAN. Some isp's in Sweden have actually given their clients switches instead of routers and are thus controlling their clients networks DHCP and stuff, meaning that local PC's and things stops communicating with each other when the internet is down ? incredibly nutty practice, you are then also on a very big "lan" with thousands of other people, how communication between your local stuff works in such a setting I don't know (probably not at all, or very buggy, squeezeboxes for sure won't like it) This is easily fixed by getting your own router. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) Miscellaneous use: Radio (battery pack to be ordered) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
If the internet is down for some reason there will be a fallback alarm, playing a mp3 saved on the radio. You should at least use version 7.4.2 of the firmware. Also after this first alarm any subsequent alarm won't work (until the connection to the squeezeboxserver is back again) -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock requires internet access
>From what I learned from another big thread on this forums is, that the server triggers the alarm. Means if you do not run your Radio on an SBS in your "controlled" LAN but on MySB, then you have an issue. -- saurus Home: Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 on ReadyNAS Pro, SqueezeBox Classic, Duet, Radio, Receiver Work: Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 on QNAP TS-419P, SqueezeBox Boom saurus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76601 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
