[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
Keep in sight. Solid object + any bike frame part + 100db motion sensor cable lock Mini-Lock Alarm from Aerostich, 4 oz. LOUD. Small tale: Atlantis parked on a busy main street connected to signpost in front of my lawyer's offfice. He and I watch out the window as would be thief reaches for the skinny cable, lifts the seemingly flimsy lock to examine it. Sensor is activated, quiet countdown beeps begin. Thief looks puzzled for 5 seconds, beep, beep, beep, then S-C-R-E-A-M Would-be thief ran straight across 4 lanes of traffic rushing both way and contiuned running, as far as we could see, for another block. On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. If the former, no explanation needed or wanted. Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock - two sometimes) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Has anyone seen these shoes
Haven't tried them but posted a similar question in the CTC forum and got some good info: http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=158322 The other Exustar called 'Stelvio' seem a bit wider and more rugged but has plastic covered leather: http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=7081 http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/newshoes.htm If you use flat or clips pedals there are still some producers of traditional 'walkable' cycling shoes: http://reynoldsshoes.co.uk/ http://www.williamlennon.co.uk/footwear/arturo-wide-fitting-cycle-shoe.html http://bikeportland.org/2008/07/10/made-in-portland-a-very-classy-pair-of-bicycle-shoes/ http://www.exitshoes.com/exit/custom-shoes/ http://www.cycles-alex-singer.fr/boutique/bonneterie/chaussures-de-velo.html http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=svsl=jatl=enu=http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/279822/290721/list.html On 20 Apr, 04:44, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Exustar_SRT_707_Commuter~Office_Sho... I noticed my old Shimano MTB shoes were getting a bit old yesterday so I looked for something new and came up with these traditional looking SPD compatible leather shoes. Does anyone have experience with them? How are they to ride and also walk in, ie is there a lot of cleat click? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
Query about alarm lock. I looked at the Aerostich web site and the cable alarm system I found weighs 1lb. Am I looking at the wrong product? On Apr 20, 3:29 am, mitchelr mitch...@onid.orst.edu wrote: Keep in sight. Solid object + any bike frame part + 100db motion sensor cable lock Mini-Lock Alarm from Aerostich, 4 oz. LOUD. Small tale: Atlantis parked on a busy main street connected to signpost in front of my lawyer's offfice. He and I watch out the window as would be thief reaches for the skinny cable, lifts the seemingly flimsy lock to examine it. Sensor is activated, quiet countdown beeps begin. Thief looks puzzled for 5 seconds, beep, beep, beep, then S-C-R-E-A-M Would-be thief ran straight across 4 lanes of traffic rushing both way and contiuned running, as far as we could see, for another block. On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. If the former, no explanation needed or wanted. Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock - two sometimes) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Has anyone seen these shoes
Thanks for the info. I'm looking for something that's SPD compatible so the Exustar's caught my eye. On Apr 20, 6:19 am, fenderbender pedal_kr...@yahoo.se wrote: Haven't tried them but posted a similar question in the CTC forum and got some good info:http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=158322 The other Exustar called 'Stelvio' seem a bit wider and more rugged but has plastic covered leather:http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=7081http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/newshoes.htm If you use flat or clips pedals there are still some producers of traditional 'walkable' cycling shoes:http://reynoldsshoes.co.uk/http://www.williamlennon.co.uk/footwear/arturo-wide-fitting-cycle-sho...http://bikeportland.org/2008/07/10/made-in-portland-a-very-classy-pai...http://www.exitshoes.com/exit/custom-shoes/http://www.cycles-alex-singer.fr/boutique/bonneterie/chaussures-de-ve...http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=svsl=jatl=enu=http://www On 20 Apr, 04:44, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Exustar_SRT_707_Commuter~Office_Sho... I noticed my old Shimano MTB shoes were getting a bit old yesterday so I looked for something new and came up with these traditional looking SPD compatible leather shoes. Does anyone have experience with them? How are they to ride and also walk in, ie is there a lot of cleat click? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
I regularly walk my bike through the two grocery stores I am well known at, with no comments at all except positive ones (It's a nice day for biking and so forth). I use my panniers instead of a shopping cart. I haven't tried this at Target, though. And, I limit this to stores with aisles wide enough that I don't bother others, even with two wide home-made trash can panniers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: trekking bar question
I am interested in these bars, I sent you a message off-list and am wondering if you recieved it? Feel free to contact me off list. Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:49:52 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: trekking bar question From: chrispmur...@hotmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have used them on both my touring bike and on my commuting bike. They are head and shoulders above the traditional flat mountain bars. They worked great for me on long days in the saddle while touring and I have recommended them to many friends getting into touring as a great start to a mountain bike to touring bike conversion. Two friends who have been on an around the world tour have used them exclusively and love them. Also, they seem very popular in Europe. The shape is a little awkward and takes some adjusting to get it right. I felt like the bars dropped down where I wanted them to go up, and went up where I wanted them go down (I feel the same way about moustache bars too). To be honest, my biggest complaint is that I thought they were kinda ugly. In the end I replaced them with Nitto Dove bars, which offer almost all of the same hand positions, look better, bend in the right directions, and, for me, are much more comfortable..I would recomend the Dove bars over the trekking style bars, unless price is a concern. The Doves are $30ish and treking style bars can be had for $15 from Nashbar. I do have a set sitting around that you are more than welcome to-- I am in Tucson-- so if it is worth the postage to you to try them out, let me know. They have less than 50 miles on them. Cheers, cm On Apr 18, 9:51 am, Dave Minyard dave_minyar...@msn.com wrote: I was wondering if any one in this group has tried any of the trekking style bars that are available? I am most wondering about the adjustable ones like the Modolo Dumbos or ITM Selego? I understand that the Selegos are no longer available but thought maybe someone out there had tried them. Thanks, Dave Minyard Santa Maria, Ca. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
On Apr 18, 12:49 pm, Phil B phi...@sonic.net wrote: I don't even want to go there with this post - but, well, ...it's titanium. Sorry. I know that crosses the line for a lot of readers-of riv. It shouldn't be anathema to recommend a ti bike to the OP, who is looking for a fast bike. makes perfect sense. It would also make sense to recommend that the bike not be set up with the handlebars at saddle height. In fact, it probably makes sense to just let go of the whole riv velosophy, and get a bike that has more in common with a race bike than an all-rounder, which is now essentially every bike in the Riv line-up. sounds like an IF crown jewel or club racer (in steel or ti) would be perfect for the OP. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
I've taken my bike into Target! In-n-Out was the only place where I was asked to take it outside. Haven't been there since. That one hurt. On Apr 20, 7:13 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I regularly walk my bike through the two grocery stores I am well known at, with no comments at all except positive ones (It's a nice day for biking and so forth). I use my panniers instead of a shopping cart. I haven't tried this at Target, though. And, I limit this to stores with aisles wide enough that I don't bother others, even with two wide home-made trash can panniers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] For Sale-Mark's Rack
I'm selling a lightly-used Nitto Mark's Rack with all the attendant hardware for $55 (shipping included). Thanks, Kim. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale-Mark's Rack
Check? Paypal? Thanks, Chris Tucson, AZ On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Kim Tonneson kimtonne...@earthlink.netwrote: I'm selling a lightly-used Nitto Mark's Rack with all the attendant hardware for $55 (shipping included). Thanks, Kim. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale-Mark's Rack
Hi Kim, If still available, I'll take it..My mailing address is listed belowI can pay via paypal as soon as you confirm we have a deal.Thanks in advance Glenn Flick 139 Gantz Meadows Mount Joy, Pa. 17552 - Original Message - From: Kim Tonneson kimtonne...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [RBW] For Sale-Mark's Rack I'm selling a lightly-used Nitto Mark's Rack with all the attendant hardware for $55 (shipping included). Thanks, Kim. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
Those are good burgers. On Apr 20, 9:36 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I've taken my bike into Target! In-n-Out was the only place where I was asked to take it outside. Haven't been there since. That one hurt. On Apr 20, 7:13 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I regularly walk my bike through the two grocery stores I am well known at, with no comments at all except positive ones (It's a nice day for biking and so forth). I use my panniers instead of a shopping cart. I haven't tried this at Target, though. And, I limit this to stores with aisles wide enough that I don't bother others, even with two wide home-made trash can panniers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale-Mark's Rack
The Mark's Rack has been sold.-Thanks, Kim. On Apr 20, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Kim Tonneson wrote: I'm selling a lightly-used Nitto Mark's Rack with all the attendant hardware for $55 (shipping included). Thanks, Kim. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale-Mark's Rack
I'd love it. I'll take it Thanks and Regards, Marty McHugh -Original Message- From: Kim Tonneson kimtonne...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:21 am Subject: [RBW] For Sale-Mark's Rack I'm selling a lightly-used Nitto Mark's Rack with all the attendant hardware for $55 (shipping included). Thanks, Kim. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
For those of you w/o the time to look through all the excellent photos that David posted, you should at least take a look at the one we took on Rivendell Street. How cool is that! http://tinyurl.com/dx5542 Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
Mini U lock. Always in site or reach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
On Apr 19, 10:51 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Calfee's about the only carbon bike I'd consider. Me too. This was my last carbonium bike (likely ever):http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/376251481/ It was a very nice bike, and I don't have anything bad to say about it, except that it didn't quite fit (too small), and these days I've seen enough carbon failure (though not Calfee) to steer clear of it. Speaking of which, there's a broken Calfee here about 10 images down, snapped at the typical spots on the frame:http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-016/index.html I remember that photo. I don't know the cause, but Calfee's response was that it was easily repaired! Brewster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
What scares me in all these photos is not the carbon, but the squirrels. Those little kamikazes are deadly! Dustin Speaking of which, there's a broken Calfee here about 10 images down, snapped at the typical spots on the frame:http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-016/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] product placement
In your wanderings, see what Rivendell-ish references you encounter, as the So Cal group did yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3457129531/in/pool-socal_rivendell _bicycle_appreciation_society/ Clear skies with no threat of rain. A bit warmish, though. dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey
Joel: Have been off-line for a couple of days just now saw your post. If you still have it, I'd like it. Sounds like we're the same size. I'm 42 regular, 5'11 and 170 so I'm at the in between L M size too. Anyway, if available, shoot me your address I'll get a check out to cover you. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoelMatthews Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:00 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey Couple years ago when I was on the IBob (is there an e-mail box big enough to handle the volume?) I joined a one time group order for IBob Jerseys from Portland Cyclewear. Truth is, I am not a jersey wearer. I wound up wearing this about 3 or 4 times then relegated it to the back of my closet (dry cleaned first). I was about to send it to the Patagonia clothing recycling bin when it occurred to me someone here might want it. There is no size tag on it, but I am right between medium and large and this fits well. It is medium blue with cream stripes and middle panel. In the front there is an IBob logo in a oval that says Bridgestone Owners Bunch on top, Cycling Lore Tradition on the bottom, 19 on the right side, 94 on the left side. UPS ground and envelope should come to about $8.00. If interested, contact off group and I can send my paypal account. Heading out for the next 7 hours or so. Will get back to anyone tonight. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis
Ken: Thanks for the FD spec. I'll check that one out. Funny, on yesterdays So Cal Riv ride, at least 3 guys were kicking themselves for not beating you to that bike. As to Riv doing a Silver FD, it'll probably be a long wait. I recall an article where they say the FD is the least necessary component on the bike. Something like if someone said give up a component or else the FD was the one you'd miss least. So they don't have much interest there. Enjoy the ride. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Yokanovich Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:54 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis I think I owe most of the credit for the quick commitment to my VERY understanding wife. I called her just after 6am as soon as I got to work to make sure I did not have to back out of my commitment to buy the bike. Furthermore, she understood just how badly that I wanted it, enough to chase down the FedEx delivery man on Good Friday at the FedEx terminal to PICK-UP the package because we had missed the delivery! She's not interested in riding, so I think my next purchase will have to be at the jewelry store ;) I'm a self-admitted bag-matcher. (The first step to recovery is admitting that one has a problem, right?) I thought about matching bar- tape to the saddle, but the saddle is really reserved for another upcoming project so I am simply using the honey for the time-being on the Atlantis. I have a nicely aging honey B17 TI on my Rivendell All- Rounder. Variety is the spice of life, so I thought that I might just try something different. The front deraileur is a FD-5504. Ideally, it would be adjusted lower. FWIW, I think that the next Silver branded component should be a front deraileur compatible with smaller front rings and low BB drop! Talk about a niche product?! On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Ken: Congrats on getting it together and especially on pulling the trigger so quickly. You got the deal of a lifetime. I have an Atlantis (stock color) and from time to time get the coupling urge (like when I'm packing for a trip). Last time I checked, couplers plus paint didn't get much change back from a $1,000 bill. Your front fender spacer looks really cool, nice work. Do know which 105 FD you have? Maybe a part number? I have one and can't get it low enough to work as well as I'd like with a 44T big ring. This is with a Sugino triple - 24/34/44. Black saddle? H... maybe bar tape to match the honey? Just a thought. If one of your other projects come thru and you need to sell this bike, don't bother listing anywhere, just contact me directly, don't mess around with the riff-raff on this site, CL, or, heaven forbid, flea-bay. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Yokanovich Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:37 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] My New-To-Me Atlantis Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the proud new owner! It arrived last week and I finished putting it together on Tuesday of this week. I rode it to work and back on Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and back on Friday. Quick photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl... 6143315765235826 Details on the build can be found here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
I haven't ridden the Independent Fab bike Patrick recommends, but I can say that a dude on the club rides I go on has a non-lugged steel IF and it looks pretty sweet (though for aesthetic reasons I am not crazy about the straight blade forks). This dude's bike is equipped with primarily silver alloy parts (except for carbon Record Ergo shifters) and looks classic enough. And it is impressively light; although I couldn't say just how much it weighs, it certainly feels significantly lighter than my Romulus. Patrick's other point about ditching Riv's velosophy in this instance is interesting. Since I am lucky enough to have a Bleriot and a Romulus, I have the Bleriot outfitted with a Mark's rack for meandering, and I've tried to turn my Romulus into a go-fast bike with lighter wheels, a racy ti-railed saddle and no luggage whatsoever, save for a small tool kit under the saddle. While the Romulus cooks pretty well in this guise with 25c Pro Race tires, the one thing I keep butting up against is the body position the bike seems to want to put me in. Far from the call to Raise d'bars, I cannot seem to get the bars low enough! At least not without putting a drastically shorter stem on. At best, with my current stem, I can get the bars about level with the saddle. Any lower and I feel much too stretched out. To get the bars low enough to where I think I might like them, I'd have to swap a 9cm stem for an 8 or even a 7! But I worry about how that might affect the handling. Has anyone else had this difficulty of not being able to get the bars low enough? On Apr 20, 7:34 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 18, 12:49 pm, Phil B phi...@sonic.net wrote: I don't even want to go there with this post - but, well, ...it's titanium. Sorry. I know that crosses the line for a lot of readers-of riv. It shouldn't be anathema to recommend a ti bike to the OP, who is looking for a fast bike. makes perfect sense. It would also make sense to recommend that the bike not be set up with the handlebars at saddle height. In fact, it probably makes sense to just let go of the whole riv velosophy, and get a bike that has more in common with a race bike than an all-rounder, which is now essentially every bike in the Riv line-up. sounds like an IF crown jewel or club racer (in steel or ti) would be perfect for the OP. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
We don't know suffering - there's a French couple touring the states that posted a request for info over on the touring site about conditions between Las Vegas and St. George, UT. THAT will involve suffering of a serious nature. Great group to ride with as always, and looking forward to our next adventure. And I'll pre-ride Whiting so I get the lay of the new trails for when we do that. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esteban Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:31 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
Dustin: What was that grey jersey you were wearing? You may have told me but it didn't stick. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Sharp Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:26 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride For those of you w/o the time to look through all the excellent photos that David posted, you should at least take a look at the one we took on Rivendell Street. How cool is that! http://tinyurl.com/dx5542 Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
Aerostich Rider Catalog 2009 page A28, Item #4962 The Screamer 3.5 OZ $22.00. Hope that helps. On Apr 20, 5:40 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Query about alarm lock. I looked at the Aerostich web site and the cable alarm system I found weighs 1lb. Am I looking at the wrong product? On Apr 20, 3:29 am, mitchelr mitch...@onid.orst.edu wrote: Keep in sight. Solid object + any bike frame part + 100db motion sensor cable lock Mini-Lock Alarm from Aerostich, 4 oz. LOUD. Small tale: Atlantis parked on a busy main street connected to signpost in front of my lawyer's offfice. He and I watch out the window as would be thief reaches for the skinny cable, lifts the seemingly flimsy lock to examine it. Sensor is activated, quiet countdown beeps begin. Thief looks puzzled for 5 seconds, beep, beep, beep, then S-C-R-E-A-M Would-be thief ran straight across 4 lanes of traffic rushing both way and contiuned running, as far as we could see, for another block. On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. If the former, no explanation needed or wanted. Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock - two sometimes) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
Hey Doug, Sometimes you’re better off not knowing stuff! Like the real temp! Actually for me, this is vital. I get dehydrated really fast unless I am actively trying to avoid it. I had an evaporative cooling vest with me yesterday which saved me. We re-filled at Cooks and hung out for quite a while, some guys got food. Then we took the bike path (old El Toro) down to Portola / Santa Margarita Pkwy, so if you were headed up that’s probably where you missed us.I figured this was the case. I thought for sure that this is where I'd find you guys. It actually seemed cooler in MV than the canyon so if you saw 95 on SM Pkwy it was triple digits back in the canyon.I've always been amazed by this. Mid-80s in Ladera Ranch always seems to be low- to mid-90s in RSM. The canyon did seem hotter, but I honestly was too busy suffering up the climbs to tell. By the time I dropped back down toward Dana Point, it seemed downright cold, but it was still 87 degrees.I wish I would have found the group. It looks like it was a fun ride. Maybe next time.Oh, about those handlebars. I think I might pass. I was thinking of using and aerobar and yesterdays ride proved to me why I dislike them so much in the first place. They take up space on the handlebars that I actually use for my hands.Take care,Joe From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bartoe Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:04 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Hi Doug, We have a sick one at home. Not the same one. The other one. Anyway, I wasn't able to make it to the start of the ride, but thought I'd try and find you guys. I wanted to get in some hills so I headed out from my place and headed over to Ortega Highway and then up Antonio Parkway. Man, it was windy going up Antonio! I went up to Santa Margarita Parkway (it was 92 degrees when I got there. Geez!). I made a left and head up SM Pkwy toward El Toro, figuring I might be able to find you on your route. I headed up and up until I got to Cook's Corner, but not Riv group. I turned right and headed back toward Rancho Santa Margarita via the canyon. Once I got back to SM Pkwy it was 95 degrees! I headed back down Antonio. The wind had changed so I didn't have the nice tailwind that I would have expected. I couldn't wait to get back down to the coast. My head was beginning to hurt from dehydration. Close to 6o miles total after a short out and back into San Clemente. Not too shabby, but it would have been nice to see you guys. I was even on the AHH. Hope you ride went well. Sorry I missed it! Joe From: dougpn...@cox.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com CC: ccroy2...@yahoo.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:47:10 -0700 Joe: Sunday, April 19. Meet at the Irvine train station (Barranca Ada) around 9 and ride by 9:30. Santiago Cyn plus a detour to the start-finish line of the ’84 Olympic road course in MV. We’ll throw in a couple of dirt options (Peters Cyn and a cut thru Whiting Ranch) that parallel the course so people can either stick to pavement or get dirty and still end up together. Total distance around 40 miles. We may have some guys coming from LA not sure if they’ll drive or Metrolink. Check the Flickr site for any last minute updates or changes: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157615635262368/ Hope you can make it. Everything is green now. From now on, So Cal’s only gonna get drier and “more golden”. dougP From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bartoe Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:33 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv Ride Hi Doug, This weekend is the Riv ride. What day, time. place? I'm trying to figure out if I can make it work. Joe From: dougpn...@cox.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:44:50 -0700 Patrick makes an important point. Bars, saddles and pedals all work together. Your entire weight is supported on your butt, two feet and two hands, and distributed among those 5 points. Toss in medical constraints (back, knees, wrists, etc.) and it’s a multi-variate challenge. Love my Noodles, Brooks, and Grip Kings (sounds like I been hitting the kool aid!) but as well as they satisfy my needs, that combo may be a torture rack for someone else. This is how we all wind up with a shop full of bike parts after a few years cycling. FS: Half dozen each h’bars, seats and stems. Large selection; make offer J. dougP From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:48 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars
[RBW] Sorry about responses to whole list...
It seems that when i hit reply that it goes to the entire list as well as the person I'm replying to. This has been happening even though the RBW e-mail address does not pop up in my To: box. Anybody else experiencing this? _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
It was a Smartwool microweight crew. I think it was this one: http://www.rei.com/product/731996 I now have two of them, and it's the only thing I like wearing for cycling when the temps get up in the 90s like yesterday. All of my other wool jerseys, Kucharik and Swobo, are way too hot. Like most other wool garments, the Smartwool microweight stuff is wy more comfy than plastic. Dustin From: Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:41:19 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Dustin: What was that grey jersey you were wearing? You may have told me but it didn't stick. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Sharp Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:26 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride For those of you w/o the time to look through all the excellent photos that David posted, you should at least take a look at the one we took on Rivendell Street. How cool is that! http://tinyurl.com/dx5542 Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: bike touring pictures
Cool post photos! I like the short shorts. Aesthetics aren't much different from that of many current Riv riders! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 20, 2:11 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So I came upon this collection of touring pictures on Flickr and was just floored. They are from the 70s, 80s mainly and document some epic tours. I have no idea who the person is that posted them but I figured I'd put the link up here because people on this list, I think, will really appreciate what's going in them. Looking at these pictures really made me think of things I associate with Rivendell. I hope you'll all enjoy them as much as I did. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hammarhead/ --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride
Dustin: Thanks for the link - my favorite gear store. Gotta get a couple of those. BTW, REI has a 20% coupon coming out soon for a sale in May. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Sharp Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:24 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride It was a Smartwool microweight crew. I think it was this one: http://www.rei.com/product/731996 I now have two of them, and it's the only thing I like wearing for cycling when the temps get up in the 90s like yesterday. All of my other wool jerseys, Kucharik and Swobo, are way too hot. Like most other wool garments, the Smartwool microweight stuff is wy more comfy than plastic. Dustin From: Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:41:19 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Dustin: What was that grey jersey you were wearing? You may have told me but it didn't stick. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Sharp Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:26 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride For those of you w/o the time to look through all the excellent photos that David posted, you should at least take a look at the one we took on Rivendell Street. How cool is that! http://tinyurl.com/dx5542 Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Thanks for the photos, David. I brought my camera, but neglected to insert the charged battery before I left home. There was great reward in the suffering caused by heat, hills, and headwinds (the three Hs). I feel great this morning! Wonderful ride planned by Doug - beautiful canyons, wildflowers and hills, wide bike paths, a stop at a biker bar, anatomy lessons from interesting roadkill, traced a bit of the 1984 Olympic route; and great conversation as usual. Looking forward to next month! Esteban San Diego, Calif. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Dreaming of the New Rivs
Hey All, The Rivendell Dealer network got word today from RBW that the new Hillborne frames and final edition of the Quickbeam are about a week away. This means we will get our greedy little hands on these items in about two weeks. On a side note, I ordered a 58cm Quickbeam for my personal ride. And to be honest, I am almost giddy with excitement ... I can't think of another bike that I have literally dreamed (while asleep) about riding. Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: product placement
Actually, I was trying to do something along the lines of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o but was unsuccessful. (seen on htatbl http://www.swobo.com/htatbl/) On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: In your wanderings, see what Rivendell-ish references you encounter, as the So Cal group did yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3457129531/in/pool-socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/ Clear skies with no threat of rain. A bit warmish, though. dougP -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Has anyone seen these shoes
I have not personally seen these shoes but they sure look nice in pictures if you want something office fancy: www.dromarti.com. Cheers, Chuck On Apr 19, 7:44 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Exustar_SRT_707_Commuter~Office_Sho... I noticed my old Shimano MTB shoes were getting a bit old yesterday so I looked for something new and came up with these traditional looking SPD compatible leather shoes. Does anyone have experience with them? How are they to ride and also walk in, ie is there a lot of cleat click? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: product placement
Hans Rey, eat your heart out! David, where do you find these things? Such a facility with stunt riding suggests a mis-spent youth. dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Estes Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: product placement Actually, I was trying to do something along the lines of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o but was unsuccessful. (seen on htatbl http://www.swobo.com/htatbl/ ) On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: In your wanderings, see what Rivendell-ish references you encounter, as the So Cal group did yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3457129531/in/pool-socal_rivendell _bicycle_appreciation_society/ Clear skies with no threat of rain. A bit warmish, though. dougP -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Convert 10 speed to 9 speed? (Silver Bar End Shifter Content)
Hi All: I am currently re-evaluating the shifting setup i have on my bike. I have STI shimano 105 shifters, and a 10 speed casette. I would like to begin using friction shifters, and asked at my LBS about this, and they explained that friction shifting does not work well with the 10 speed setup. I want to move to bar-ends no matter what, as the STI's just don't really suit me, and they suggested indexed bar ends. Is converting the 10 speed to 9 speed as easy as swapping out the casette? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Zack --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
I have one Zefal skewer on the front wheel and onguard u-lock on the back through the triangle and wheel. I still won't eave it locked up over night, but at least I can feel comfortable while I go in a store for a few minutes. Anyone else have experience with the lock 'n' roll? I'm wondering if a thief could actually unscrew nut and remove the entire skewer to get around quick release. I haven't been able to, but theres still that nagging doubt :) On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. If the former, no explanation needed or wanted. Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock - two sometimes) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Convert 10 speed to 9 speed? (Silver Bar End Shifter Content)
Try the friction, and if it doesn't work, get Shimano 10-speed bar-enders. I think the friction's worth a try if you're using bar-end shifters. I remember being told that 9 wouldn't work in friction, but with bar-ends I was fine. If you have to sell the Silvers, you could probably do it on this list. -James On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Zack wrote: Hi All: I am currently re-evaluating the shifting setup i have on my bike. I have STI shimano 105 shifters, and a 10 speed casette. I would like to begin using friction shifters, and asked at my LBS about this, and they explained that friction shifting does not work well with the 10 speed setup. I want to move to bar-ends no matter what, as the STI's just don't really suit me, and they suggested indexed bar ends. Is converting the 10 speed to 9 speed as easy as swapping out the casette? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Zack --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Convert 10 speed to 9 speed? (Silver Bar End Shifter Content)
Yes, it's that easy. Better yet, go to 8sp, which works better than 9sp with friction. Jim Thill Minneapolis, MN On Apr 20, 9:07 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: I am currently re-evaluating the shifting setup i have on my bike. I have STI shimano 105 shifters, and a 10 speed casette. I would like to begin using friction shifters, and asked at my LBS about this, and they explained that friction shifting does not work well with the 10 speed setup. I want to move to bar-ends no matter what, as the STI's just don't really suit me, and they suggested indexed bar ends. Is converting the 10 speed to 9 speed as easy as swapping out the casette? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Zack --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?
My stable includes many more than 2 but only one of them gets taken to town and locked up for long periods of time, my early 80s Nishiki. Now, I have taken my Rivendell to UTexas football games but I lock it up at a friend's tailgate and they always have someone around to make sure that the LCD TV, generator, barbecue, etc are not stolen. I ask them to keep an eye on my bike and they are happy to oblige. I lock it up with a cable lock and head off to the game. On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:30 AM, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. If the former, no explanation needed or wanted. Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock - two sometimes) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Has anyone seen these shoes
Those Dromarti shoes look very nice, but a bit pricey. Also I'm strange in that I ride SPD on my right foot, but Riv style on my left so I need a shoe with a recessed SPD cleat that is also ok riding without the cleat. The Dromarti Sportive might work, but that hard rubber sole with little surface area wouldn't be too good. So far the best I've found are the Shimano MTB shoes like the MT30 etc. They have a nice wide surface for a platform and a good recess for a cleat and they can pass for sneakers and are good walking around town. But when I saw the Exustar's I thought they looked might be perfect. Looks like I'll have to buy a pair from the UK to see. On Apr 20, 10:41 pm, Chuck ck...@speakeasy.net wrote: I have not personally seen these shoes but they sure look nice in pictures if you want something office fancy: www.dromarti.com. Cheers, Chuck On Apr 19, 7:44 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Exustar_SRT_707_Commuter~Office_Sho... I noticed my old Shimano MTB shoes were getting a bit old yesterday so I looked for something new and came up with these traditional looking SPD compatible leather shoes. Does anyone have experience with them? How are they to ride and also walk in, ie is there a lot of cleat click? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Convert 10 speed to 9 speed? (Silver Bar End Shifter Content)
on 4/20/09 7:07 PM, Zack at zack...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently re-evaluating the shifting setup i have on my bike. I have STI shimano 105 shifters, and a 10 speed casette. I would like to begin using friction shifters, and asked at my LBS about this, and they explained that friction shifting does not work well with the 10 speed setup. I want to move to bar-ends no matter what, as the STI's just don't really suit me, and they suggested indexed bar ends. Is converting the 10 speed to 9 speed as easy as swapping out the casette? Actually, you could swap between 10, 9 and 8 without much fuss at all. They are all on the same freehub. Just swap cassettes, check your chain length and watch your limit stops on the derailleur. You might check the archive, 'cuz we were just talking about various tricks to make that work. These things help me: Most of the newer cassettes are designed to shift, and the newer derailleurs have floating upper pulleys, which are designed to help. If the last friction shifting you did was with older, straight-toothed sprockets, you'll find that rather than overshifting and trimming, doesn't work as effectively as teasing it into gear. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
on 4/20/09 12:14 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: While the Romulus cooks pretty well in this guise with 25c Pro Race tires, the one thing I keep butting up against is the body position the bike seems to want to put me in. Far from the call to Raise d'bars, I cannot seem to get the bars low enough! At least not without putting a drastically shorter stem on. At best, with my current stem, I can get the bars about level with the saddle. Any lower and I feel much too stretched out. To get the bars low enough to where I think I might like them, I'd have to swap a 9cm stem for an 8 or even a 7! But I worry about how that might affect the handling. Has anyone else had this difficulty of not being able to get the bars low enough? It actually sounds like you can get them low enough, but then the reach is longer. This isn't anything more than physics. Or, the recipricol of Raise Dat Stem - you drop the bars in relation to the saddle, and you effectively lengthen the reach. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
Has anyone else had this difficulty of not being able to get the bars low enough? I've had to trim the bottom of my technomic (?) stem quills to get there. But my headtubes, due to frame size are only 110mm at best. I guess I could go for a normal length quill next time. Phil B --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] May SoCal Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society Ride
I just started a discussion on the flickr page.http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157617023666267/(and here: *http://tinyurl.com/dxbmey)* 35 miles out of Redlands, maybe about 1/2 on dirt. Plenty of elevation, but only one portion is steep (trust me, you've seen how I climb...). Love to get some folks out and enjoying the great out doors! Discussion here or on flickr is fine. Big decision is finding the date which impacts the fewest... FYI, we're also thinking a June S24O to Crystal Cove and an early July ride in San Diego. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---