[RBW] FW: Southern Tier - Cross Country Bicycle Ride - Episode 1 ready
Video on global warming and water awareness, shot during cross country ride. About an hour but time well spent. dougP - Original Message - From: Jeff Hyland mailto:jeffhyl...@mac.com To: Undisclosed mailto:Undisclosed%20recipients: recipients: Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Southern Tier - Cross Country Bicycle Ride - Episode 1 ready Hello Friends! Somewhere along our cross-country bicycle ride through the Southern Tier of the United States we came in contact with you. We hope this message finds you happy and healthy. This message is to inform you that the first one hour episode of the Southern Tier Environmental Documentary is complete. Episode 1 Ride from: Newport Beach, CA Ride to: Tucson, AZ Focus: Ocean Relationship / Water Conservation / Fire Ecology / Solar Panels / Energy conservation / Biosphere 2 / Bicycle Co-op Highlights Include: Ed Begley Jr Aquarium of the Pacific - CEO Dr. Jerry Schubel Nobel Prize Chemistry 1995 - Dr. Sherwood Roland Earth Resource Foundation - Stephanie Barger Waste Management - Alberto Guardado Southern Nevada Water Authority - Doug Bennett Fire Ecologist NAU - Dr. Pete Fule Global Solar - Scott Weidman Tucson Electric Power - Joe Salkowski Biosphere 2 - John Adams Tuesday Night Bike Ride - University of Arizona Campus BICAS - Bicycle Inter Community Art and Salvage I hope you will take the time to check out some of these links below and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pass these links on to as many people as you can. We are trying to generate some buzz about this project so that we can complete the series. It will only happen with support from a large base of people helping push it. Also, whenever possible please leave comments and hit the like buttons. To view the first Episode. VIMEO (in HD), YOUTUBE, SOUTHERN-TIER.NET, iTUNES VIDEO PODCAST VIMEO (in HD) - (3x20 minute clips) http://vimeo.com/channels/36364 YOUTUBE - (6x10 minute clips) http://www.youtube.com/user/bikesoutherntier SOUTHERN-TIER.NET It is 55 minutes in length so it will be a slower download. http://www.southern-tier.net/Southern_Tier/Southern_Tier_Pilot.html ITUNES To download the shows for viewing on your ipod or as a free video podcast search the itunes store for Southern Tier. Thanks for taking a look at the first episode. Earth Day is right around the corner, help do your part in keeping the environmental discussion moving forward and pass these links on to as many people as possible. Jeff Hyland Producer Positive Social Change Documentaries _ Rediscover HotmailR: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Up dates1_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
Similar thing happened to one of my touring buds a couple of weeks ago. It was a 9 speed and he's a big guy who pounds the pedals. First time was on a climb and he was able to take out the offending link to get going. Later in the same ride it started making noise on a flat section and he found one of the outer plates hanging loose, just waiting to fall off. As far as I know, he just replaced the chain and did not find any obvious cause. I've never had a chain fail but have seen it happen, usually older bikes that have been neglected. Never on one such as your son has. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:03 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Query Concerning Chain Problem My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Okay, now I'm really jealous
Eric: If you find any Schwalbe Marathon Supremes in 35 x 700 let me know. My LBS here in So Cal is coming up empty and the Usual Suspects are out too. There's something about stock on June 20 on Schwalbe's website but unclear what happens then. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:15 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Okay, now I'm really jealous Was just checking the Riv website to see if there were any updates to the Sam Hillborne. Yup. There are now photos of three (that's right, 3) more built up bikes. Arrgh! I'm excited and frustrated at the same time. Excited because this will be my first home build of a bike since purchasing a Stumpjumper frame in 1984 and building it up with parts from my other bike. Also excited because this will be my first bike with drops in a year. And really believe this one will be special. Frustrated because now I'm seeing photos of other builds and it makes me realize what I'm planning is not going to be that unique. Also am now second-guessing some choices. (i.e. should I now go with the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires instead of Pasela 35s?) Still, am glad to see there are at least some out there. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
I have had a fair number of chains break for one reason or another over the years. Most were due to not using the right pin for the shimano chains when they went to the special pins. I try to avoid using the special pin chains and use the masterlink types almost exclusively, thus this failure never happens anymore to me. At least one was broken due to particularly inelegant shifts that have actually bent the chain and caused a plate to come off a pin. Also having a single speed chain derail when you take a power stroke can put a kink in it, probably leading to a bent or broken chain. I had this one happen a few weeks ago: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2009/03/never-done-this-before.html I am guessing this was a minorly tweaked chain from a derailment that failed in fatigue over time. I have had things like that happen before on my single speed mountain bike and cross bike which caused the chain to separate completely with bits of broken in half plates attached to the chain. Sometimes it looks like the crack started on a logo stamped on the plate. This one I rode home, before I figured it out what was going on, it was obviously bent, but I did not realize it was separated until I got hoime. Kind of neat. I think breaking or bending chains is fairly common. I am always surprised when people say they have never heard of it happening. Mostly due to installation error at some point, but you see all sorts of things when you ride lots of different bikes over lots of different conditions, and when you work at a shop that look to be due to defects in the plates, or maybe hitting something big or inelegant shifting under load. My favorite one was when I was on a group ride in the rain and a buddies chain came off and slid a few feet and neatly disappeared into a gutter. He took the BART home from that ride. Anyhow, it happens. Make sure you install it correctly and make sure you replace bent chains before they crack/depin. Tarik On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Similar thing happened to one of my touring buds a couple of weeks ago. It was a 9 speed and he's a big guy who pounds the pedals. First time was on a climb and he was able to take out the offending link to get going. Later in the same ride it started making noise on a flat section and he found one of the outer plates hanging loose, just waiting to fall off. As far as I know, he just replaced the chain and did not find any obvious cause. I've never had a chain fail but have seen it happen, usually older bikes that have been neglected. Never on one such as your son has. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:03 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Query Concerning Chain Problem My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] To Sell Or Not To Sell With DirtDrops?
Hi--as some people will note, I've had various degrees of, should I sell it or not when contemplating my old Waterford 1400 Mountain Bike...and now, because of storage limitations, I'm going to sell it. Finally! I'm going to put it on eBay next week once I get it back to the old Rivendell set up, and I'd like some opinions on the handlebars: should I offer it with the Nitto DirtDrops it now has, or put another bar on it and sell the DirtDrops separately? I'm going to start the bidding at $575, and hopefully I'll get a little more than that, but that was with the Nitto bars. Would putting another set of bars decrease its value more than what I could get for the DD's? Or, what I think I'm getting at is: if I put non-drop bars on it, would more people consider buying the bike on eBay?) Obviously, I've agonized over this, but I can't really justify having two bikes at this time (our new Quickbeams are here, and we'll be picking them up next week.) If the general consensus is for me to replace the DD's, any suggestions for the new bar? I considered a Mustache bar, but to me that's the same sort of issue--too many people won't get it. Thanks in advance. Rick P.S.: If anyone is interested, here's the parts list: Make: Waterford Year: 1995 Model: 1400, Intense Red with White Pinstriping, White Decals, and custom Braze-ons for rear rack Material: Reynolds 753 Steel, Silver-Brazed Investment Cast Lugs, Henry James Dropouts Size: 21 inches Seat Tube C2C: 53cm Top Tube C2C: 60cm Stand Over Height: 84cm Fork Make: Ritchey Logic Fork Model: Unicrown Fork Material: Prestige Steel Wheel Size: 26 inches Rims: WTB Power Beams, 36 hole Hubs: White Industries, Cro-mo axle, 36 hole, with Salsa Flip-off Quick Release Tires: WTB VelociRaptor Comp 2.1 Shift Levers: Shimano Bar-Cons, 8-speed Brake Levers: Dia Compe 287 Brakeset: Dia Compe 986 with Kool Stop pads Crankset: Ritchey MicroDrive (made by Sugino) 42x32x20 (last cog made by Avid), with Syncros Crank-o-matic Cap/Bolts Pedals: (1) Ritchey Logic Cro-mo clipless and (2) Campagnolo Record quill w/toe clips Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-71 Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Front Derailleur: Shimano XT Cassette: Shimano HG-90, 13-34 Chain: Shimano HG-91 Handlebar: Nitto DirtDrops, White Gel Tape Stem: Salsa Moto, 53 degree/120mm reach/1 1/8” quill/26mm clamp Seatpost: Syncros Micro Adjust, 27.2x425mm Headset: Chris King Threaded, Silver, 1 1/8” Saddle: Brooks B-17, Honey Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Those aren't fat tires; *these* are fat tires
(Said in a Crocodile Dundee voice.) http://picasaweb.google.com/bertin531/ODDSANDENDS#5329818580184880578 and before and after. I am sitting at a caff (as the Brits call them) in the middle of a 20 mile off road ride, of which, by the time I get home, some 12 to 14 miles will have been over sand, 1 to 3 inches deep. One experimental out-and-back of jeep track, 4 miles total, of which 3 at least were one to three inches deep in sand, I managed at 10 to 12 1/2 mph without having to stand and exerting myself no more, in this 64 gear, than I would climbing a steepish hill, seated, in the same gear. The big (29 1/2 inch diameter) and 65 mm wide (on the 44 mm rims; the tires measured only 55 on the earlier, 24 mm rims) tires definitely float over sand better than anhy 26 wheel, even with the same tire, and, I judge cautiously, they do better than the same tires at the same (20/30) pressures on the narrower rims. At these pressures the tires roll well on pavement, too. Now I need a better frame to go with the better wheels! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: To Sell Or Not To Sell With DirtDrops?
A, tempting me again I'd sell it w/out the DD's. Not so much to get rich, but knowing someone out there might really want them (I have three sets myself) but not want the whole bike. DE On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Rick rp.hous...@gmail.com wrote: Hi--as some people will note, I've had various degrees of, should I sell it or not when contemplating my old Waterford 1400 Mountain Bike...and now, because of storage limitations, I'm going to sell it. Finally! I'm going to put it on eBay next week once I get it back to the old Rivendell set up, and I'd like some opinions on the handlebars: should I offer it with the Nitto DirtDrops it now has, or put another bar on it and sell the DirtDrops separately? I'm going to start the bidding at $575, and hopefully I'll get a little more than that, but that was with the Nitto bars. Would putting another set of bars decrease its value more than what I could get for the DD's? Or, what I think I'm getting at is: if I put non-drop bars on it, would more people consider buying the bike on eBay?) Obviously, I've agonized over this, but I can't really justify having two bikes at this time (our new Quickbeams are here, and we'll be picking them up next week.) If the general consensus is for me to replace the DD's, any suggestions for the new bar? I considered a Mustache bar, but to me that's the same sort of issue--too many people won't get it. Thanks in advance. Rick P.S.: If anyone is interested, here's the parts list: Make: Waterford Year: 1995 Model: 1400, Intense Red with White Pinstriping, White Decals, and custom Braze-ons for rear rack Material: Reynolds 753 Steel, Silver-Brazed Investment Cast Lugs, Henry James Dropouts Size: 21 inches Seat Tube C2C: 53cm Top Tube C2C: 60cm Stand Over Height: 84cm Fork Make: Ritchey Logic Fork Model: Unicrown Fork Material: Prestige Steel Wheel Size: 26 inches Rims: WTB Power Beams, 36 hole Hubs: White Industries, Cro-mo axle, 36 hole, with Salsa Flip-off Quick Release Tires: WTB VelociRaptor Comp 2.1 Shift Levers: Shimano Bar-Cons, 8-speed Brake Levers: Dia Compe 287 Brakeset: Dia Compe 986 with Kool Stop pads Crankset: Ritchey MicroDrive (made by Sugino) 42x32x20 (last cog made by Avid), with Syncros Crank-o-matic Cap/Bolts Pedals: (1) Ritchey Logic Cro-mo clipless and (2) Campagnolo Record quill w/toe clips Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-71 Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Front Derailleur: Shimano XT Cassette: Shimano HG-90, 13-34 Chain: Shimano HG-91 Handlebar: Nitto DirtDrops, White Gel Tape Stem: Salsa Moto, 53 degree/120mm reach/1 1/8” quill/26mm clamp Seatpost: Syncros Micro Adjust, 27.2x425mm Headset: Chris King Threaded, Silver, 1 1/8” Saddle: Brooks B-17, Honey Brown -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those aren't fat tires; *these* are fat tires
I can't make out the decal on the down tube. Is that an example of Sheldon Brown's Rivendell Sauron? From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:31:54 PM Subject: [RBW] Those aren't fat tires; *these* are fat tires (Said in a Crocodile Dundee voice.) http://picasaweb.google.com/bertin531/ODDSANDENDS#5329818580184880578 and before and after. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Adventures of the Bombadil Build
Guilty. But . . . they don't really match . . . one is square at the end and the other one is rounded . . . oh, the asymmetry! . . . some one stop me before I rack again!! On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Apr 29, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Dave Craig wrote: We had a Riv/Nitto rear rack on my wife's bike, so I grabbed that and switched out the Tubus on the rear in order to balance the look of the bike with silver racks front and rear (YOU ALL understand, right?). Rackmatcher. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those aren't fat tires; *these* are fat tires
I should yank this post back On Topic by saying that I was thinking, as I rode just now, if I could ever think of getting another Custom -- say, a modified Bombadil -- on which to put these wheels, and by which to get more of that Rivendell Ride that I've come to know and love. We'll see. (The frame would have to accomodate 65 mm X 29 1/2 wheels with fenders and room to spare, while minimizing (not necessarily removing) TCO, and giving a more Riv Road ride, and yet have adequate standover with said big wheels. The Monocog 29er does all except give the ride that I want. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: (Said in a Crocodile Dundee voice.) http://picasaweb.google.com/bertin531/ODDSANDENDS#5329818580184880578 and before and after. I am sitting at a caff (as the Brits call them) in the middle of a 20 mile off road ride, of which, by the time I get home, some 12 to 14 miles will have been over sand, 1 to 3 inches deep. One experimental out-and-back of jeep track, 4 miles total, of which 3 at least were one to three inches deep in sand, I managed at 10 to 12 1/2 mph without having to stand and exerting myself no more, in this 64 gear, than I would climbing a steepish hill, seated, in the same gear. The big (29 1/2 inch diameter) and 65 mm wide (on the 44 mm rims; the tires measured only 55 on the earlier, 24 mm rims) tires definitely float over sand better than anhy 26 wheel, even with the same tire, and, I judge cautiously, they do better than the same tires at the same (20/30) pressures on the narrower rims. At these pressures the tires roll well on pavement, too. Now I need a better frame to go with the better wheels! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Okay, now I'm really jealous
All three builds look great. I'm surprised that I like the one with the moustache bars. Thanks Eric for pointing out the new pictures. --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those aren't fat tires; *these* are fat tires
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I can't make out the decal on the down tube. Is that an example of Sheldon Brown's Rivendell Sauron? It's certainly not elfin! Just discovered on last 1/2 mile of pavement home that I can drop pressure in front to 15, rear to 20, and still have bike handle acceptably -- not good, but acceptably -- on pavement, and wheels roll efficiently. I will now use 18/22 or so as the default allrounder pressure. Incidentally, the rim maker/seller, Simon Rackower of Fairbanks, told me he uses fabric store bulk gift wrap ribbon (so many colors to choose from!) covered by a layer of strapping tape instead of rim strips. I may switch to this from the paired Spec plastic rim strips that you can see bulging (but harmlessly, I believe) through the drillium holes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Free for postage: PI Journey glove, new, Medium, navy and gray
I've received so much free from listmembers here and on the Boblist that I want to return the favor now and again. First come first served; remember they are Mediums; they are not gel; and please defer to those who might be low on gloves or otherwise needy, *if* you have drawers full or make six figures. I don't wear gloves except in winter, and these have been sitting in my for future use box for years. I thought I'd toss this one to the RBW list for a change. *You* figure postage from 87120. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Bottom bracket and the Bleriot
I have a 110mm bottom bracket and am wondering whether it will work with the Sugino XD2 triple on the Bleriot. Or does it require a 113? In the crankset description on RBW, it says: On road bikes with straight (normal) chain stays, mount it on a 107 to 110mm bb. If your bike has bowed-out chain stays like most mountain bikes, it'll need a 113mm. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/cranks_bottom_brackets#product=12-190 So should I treat the Bleriot as a road bike with straight (normal) chain stays or are the stays considered to be bowed-out like most mountain bikes? Can I get away with the 110 I already own or should I cough up cash for a new 113? Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Ribbit Brake little thingys
I'm planning on swapping between Albatross bars and Noodles on my Protovelo, and four little pieces of metal would make it a lot easier. I have Ribbit brakes on this bike, which I love, and like other low- profile Mafac-look-a-likes, there are little cylinders on either side of the hanger cable that hook into the brake itself. Its a very elegant design, but I sure could use four of these to equip my other handlebar set-up for easy-in-easy-out. Riv, Velo-orange, and my local bike shops have no supply. Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
One time on a camping trip, my (the young teenaged) daughter tried to force a shift too late on a steep little pitch and bent a chain link. She was pretty upset and thought she'd be walking back to camp. I calmed her down, pulled out a chain tool, took out the bad link and we were on our way in a few minutes. I can't recall ever having broken a chain myself. I'm probably doomed now! Bill On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ribbit Brake little thingys
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I'm planning on swapping between Albatross bars and Noodles on my Protovelo, and four little pieces of metal would make it a lot easier. I have Ribbit brakes on this bike, which I love, and like other low- profile Mafac-look-a-likes, there are little cylinders on either side of the hanger cable that hook into the brake itself. Its a very elegant design, but I sure could use four of these to equip my other handlebar set-up for easy-in-easy-out. Riv no longer carries them? I got mine from Riv some years ago. (But I'm evilly hoarding mine, sorry.) Perhaps your local True Value? If I weren't afraid of being laughed at, I'd spend a nice afternoon just idly roaming around opening drawers at random to study all the tiny, little parts they have at my TV. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
At the suggestion of another member of this list, I headed out Orr Springs Road from the city of Ukiah tonight. I didn't have time to get too far, but I made it about 12 miles from town--a long climb that included (according to the signs) 4 miles of 10% grade. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157617405498173/ You can see my Riv Road in several of the shots. Enjoy! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
Nice --- bike, route, and leg musculature. What is that handlebar bag? And what is the headlight? What gear do you use for an extended 10% grade? What is all that green stuff? Patrick Moore, who is still a gear nerd even though he has only one per bike, now, in sandy and dry Albuquerque, NM On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: At the suggestion of another member of this list, I headed out Orr Springs Road from the city of Ukiah tonight. I didn't have time to get too far, but I made it about 12 miles from town--a long climb that included (according to the signs) 4 miles of 10% grade. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157617405498173/ You can see my Riv Road in several of the shots. Enjoy! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Gloves have been claimed
What I said. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
Eric: Nice photos. New front bag? Looks good, what is it? I've lived here all my life and California still amazes me in springtime. Headed to San Francisco on Friday to start a coastal tour south. Getting excited. dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Norris Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:29 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County At the suggestion of another member of this list, I headed out Orr Springs Road from the city of Ukiah tonight. I didn't have time to get too far, but I made it about 12 miles from town--a long climb that included (according to the signs) 4 miles of 10% grade. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157617405498173/ You can see my Riv Road in several of the shots. Enjoy! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bottom bracket and the Bleriot
I just got finished building my Bleriot. I installed a Sugino 48/34 double on a 110 bb. When the chain was crossed from small ring in front to small cog in rear, the chain would rub on the inside of the large front ring. I know you should not do cross chaining, but that was the case with this installation. I installed a 110 bb and the rubbing went away due to improved chain line. Now I know you are talking about a triple crank, not a double so your experience will be different. Thought you might want to mix this data into your decision making. Regardless, love my newly built Bleriot. Maybe the most cost effective Riv ever made...ever again. On Apr 29, 4:26 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 110mm bottom bracket and am wondering whether it will work with the Sugino XD2 triple on the Bleriot. Or does it require a 113? In the crankset description on RBW, it says: On road bikes with straight (normal) chain stays, mount it on a 107 to 110mm bb. If your bike has bowed-out chain stays like most mountain bikes, it'll need a 113mm. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/cranks_bottom_brackets#product=1... So should I treat the Bleriot as a road bike with straight (normal) chain stays or are the stays considered to be bowed-out like most mountain bikes? Can I get away with the 110 I already own or should I cough up cash for a new 113? Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: To Sell Or Not To Sell With DirtDrops?
Thanks John: The problem I see with selling the parts off separately is the real fear of being stuck with a frame that no one will want, and I won't have room for; to that end, I'm going to have to sell the bike as is-- except for the handlebars (unless I think they'll help me sell it!) eBay hasn't been too bad, but I'd much rather sell the bike via a local Craigslist--but I didn't get any nibbles when I last posted the Waterford there...maybe I'll try again before selling it on eBay. I'll post pics after I put the bike back together on Saturday--and thanks for everyone's input. Rick On Apr 29, 5:26 pm, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A, tempting me again I'd sell it w/out the DD's. Not so much to get rich, but knowing someone out there might really want them (I have three sets myself) but not want the whole bike. DE I agree with David. Actually, you've got a lot of nice bits on there. If you're really trying to maximize cash in pocket, a lot of that stuff will bring more as individual pieces than they will on the bike. That assumes you have the stomach for ebaying all that stuff. I used to, but I don't anymore. The dirtdrops aren't the only interesting bits on that bike. I assume the Ritchey Microdrive is a 94/58 bcd crankset or is it the 86? Those make great doubles (think 45/28 coupled with a 12-28 in the rear) and are hard to find these days. I'd buy it if you stripped it off. Any SIS 8-spd is getting harder to find, so the shifters may be interesting to some. The UN-71 isn't made anymore. Only the heavier 5x. If there's life left in that, you could sell it easily. King headset, fancy hubs, the older xt derailleurs, 986 brakes: jsut good stuff to have around in your parts bin or easy enough to unload for reasonable prices. I bet if you stripped this bike down you could make more and likely sell off a bunch of this stuff on the RBW or BOB list pretty easily. And you wouldn't have to deal with ebay. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
Looks like an Acorn Bag... On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Eric: Nice photos. New front bag? Looks good, what is it? I’ve lived here all my life and California still amazes me in springtime. Headed to San Francisco on Friday to start a coastal tour south. Getting excited. dougP -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Norris *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:29 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County At the suggestion of another member of this list, I headed out Orr Springs Road from the city of Ukiah tonight. I didn't have time to get too far, but I made it about 12 miles from town--a long climb that included (according to the signs) 4 miles of 10% grade. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157617405498173/ You can see my Riv Road in several of the shots. Enjoy! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
