[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
+1

So, I have a fall project, in addition to the normal riding... making
sure my wheels with my studded tires are in good shape!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Nov 8, 8:34 pm, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> I ride all winter.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?
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[RBW] Re: Betty

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Paint, I think. IIRC, the frames all come from Taiwan painted as
Bettys. The Gomez frames get repainted in the US.

IIRC

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Nov 8, 5:30 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> Indeed... I sure am smitten by her beauty... Ah, but let's not forget
> Betty's cousin, the International Man of Mixte himself, Yves Gomez...
> THAT is one fine-looking bike; I only wish we'd see more of these..
> and someone remind me againwhy are they priced higher than the
> Betty?... (sorry if this question has been answered)
>
> I can't help but see a Gomez in my future...
>
> On Nov 8, 4:29 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I stared at that bike's pictures for quite a while. Thanks for linking it.
>
> > In some ways, I think the Betty Foy is the nicest bike that Rivendell sells.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > >From: Rick 
> > >Sent: Nov 8, 2010 12:41 PM
> > >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > >Subject: [RBW] Betty
>
> > >My wife's newest latest:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/
>
> > >I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
> > >note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?
>
> > >Rick.
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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Pesce
I think it's just Grant having fun.

The Sam has the same name whether it's Taiwan or Waterford, canti or
caliper, single top tube or double...

On Nov 9, 2:48 am, John Blish  wrote:
> Just in the case of Quickbeam / SimpleOne there might be a specific reason
> that applies.
>
> QB was made in Japan by Panasonic.  SimpleOne frame will come from Taiwan as
> I understand it and is the fork going to be from Japan?.  QB was only ever
> available as a complete bike AFAIK.  SimpleOne can be had as just frame and
> fork, I believe.  I could be remembering all this incorrectly.
>
> The different names are to distinguish the two different bikes *and* their
> origins although they have the same design.  Yes?
>
> Big Redwoods might have had some different tubes than Romulus even though
> the geometry was the same.  Just a guess.
>
> Grant wanted the big guys to feel special so he gave it a different name.
> You know how the big guys are always whining and complaining about no frames
> to fit them.   Boo Hoo.  Poor big guys.
>
> Under this logic, technically the canti-Roms should have had a different
> name, too, so maybe I have the whole thing wrong.  I think by the time GP
> realized the canti-Roms were on the way it was too late to give them a
> different name.  Remember, they were kind of unintended and produced due to
> a less than perfect communication.
>
> -jb - has a 58 QB and two 59 Romulus bikes and is not looking for a fight
> with any big guys - in Minneapolis.
>
> But if you are a big guy lets say I am in Buffalo, Wyoming.  Yeah, that's
> where I am.
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Philip Williamson <
>
>
>
> philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> > my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> > changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> > The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> > design.
> > The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> > its name.
> > The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> > Redwood.
> > Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> > On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> > unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> > Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> > bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> > price points on similar bikes?
>
> > Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
> >  Philip
>
> >  Philip Williamson
> >www.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Ken Freeman
Have to get the Ents to impose some stability.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:22 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> It's a way to avoid the wrath of Peter Jackson's attorneys.
>
> Barristers of the Shire are no joke!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Philip Williamson <
> philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
>> my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
>> changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>>
>> The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
>> design.
>> The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
>> its name.
>> The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
>> Redwood.
>> Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>>
>> On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
>> unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>>
>> Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
>> bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
>> price points on similar bikes?
>>
>> Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
>>  Philip
>>
>>  Philip Williamson
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Seriously recommend Paul Motolites; I have them and they feel
fantastic. Not-so-seriously recommend the VO Polyvalent crankset; I
don't have one and would like someone to test it out for me! :)

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Nov 8, 7:30 pm, EricP  wrote:
> My Rivendell project for the winter - change my Sam Hillborne over to
> V-brakes.  Should make it easier to adjust handlebar height.  Maybe,
> possibly add a pair of interruptor levers too.  Then fret and worry
> for a while about what type of handlebar tape to install.  Then pull
> it off in frustration and just go back to black cork.
>
> Might also swap out the crankset.  Might have just kilt my third BB in
> less than two years of the bike.  Could replace.  Or just put on the
> external BB Deore crank I have.  (Which has been on this bike before
> and does the job.)
>
> Yeah, and ride, too.  But not my Rivendell outside.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Nov 8, 5:40 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > What to do in the winter?
>
> > RIDE!
>
> > Serious, for me summers are HOT and SMOGGY.  Yuck.  Winters are just
> > awesome, just wish the days were longer!

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Re: [RBW] Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread Ken Freeman
I agree, as well.  While the Sackville bags look as fine as can be, I don't
really want the look of a high-end purse, nor do I want to pay for it.  The
Carradice model, at Wiggle's pricing, is right in line for me.  The problems
are that there is no front rack bag, the belt-buckles are not really good
for on-bike access while moving, and the availability is also rather
spotty.  They don't sell out quite as fast as Acorns, however.

So, no, a chi-chi re-issue is not up my street.  Neither is a new chi-chi
bag, despite the engineering value of magnetic closures.  Fastex and elastic
loops are still decent solutions to the problem of access while on the bike
and moving.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Fai Mao  wrote:

> I  agree with Patrick. I've thought that Riv bags were very expensive. Far
> more so than I was willing to pay in most cases. I don't like having a bike
> that looks attractive to thieves and a really expensive looking bag just
> screams "Steal me" Plus, I commute on a bicycle and would rather that my
> bike be cheaper than an automobile to maintain. Granted, I haven't driven a
> car since 1996 so the cost of auto-maintenance may have gone up.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>> I wish they'd re-issue their original, cheap saddlebag made from the
>> original burrito waxed cotton cloth. I recently got one from a fellow
>> RBW-er or iBobber. Sorry, the best photo I have is here:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5522534402352991554
>>
>> Sturdy, just the right size, inexpensive, no chi-chi. Needless to say,
>> it works very well as a small bar bag.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Eric  wrote:
>> > I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
>> > eBay.
>> >
>> > Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>> >
>> > Found here:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
>> >
>> > Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
>> > obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
>> > bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
>> > Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>> >
>> > Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?
>> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:25 AM, rperks  wrote:
> Same here, and while I "get it", take a close look at the chain line
> on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other
> things going on down there?
>
> Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard
> right befor bed
>


Here's the bit that confused me:

 They've played the video backward and had everyone doing everything
in reverse so that john could ride forward and
have it look like he was riding backward. This is all very cool.

But why, eventhough the video is being played backward is John
pedaling FORWARD and GOING backward.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Pesce
I'm newly "returned" to bikes after many years hiatus, and it seems to
me there is an amazing amount of product out there. Of course, the
internet didn't exist the last time I went shopping for bike stuff, so
my "universe" was only as large as the shelves of my local LBS, and
maybe a catalog or two.

Beth H makes a good point that Riv is responsible for maintaining, or
resurrecting, interest in lot of this even if they can't be expected
to actually make and sell it all themselves.

I always think more options are better.



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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Pretty sure it's a retro-direct drivetrain.

On Nov 9, 7:38 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:25 AM, rperks  wrote:
> > Same here, and while I "get it", take a close look at the chain line
> > on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other
> > things going on down there?
>
> > Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard
> > right befor bed
>
> Here's the bit that confused me:
>
>  They've played the video backward and had everyone doing everything
> in reverse so that john could ride forward and
> have it look like he was riding backward. This is all very cool.
>
> But why, eventhough the video is being played backward is John
> pedaling FORWARD and GOING backward.
>
> -sv

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RE: [RBW] AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread Frederick, Steve
Congrats and welcome!

I'm partial to White Industry hubs myself.  Not sure you'd save any money with 
them over PW's though...

Steve 

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:16 PM
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Subject: [RBW] AHH on order


First post!

I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.

Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
the topic. :-)

But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.

So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
lots of touring.

First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?

David

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RE: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Frederick, Steve
I've got Fizik-brand under tape gel on all my drop bar bikes--it's the best 
padding I've found.  Lasts longer and is more comfortable than anything else 
I've tried...

Steve

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:17 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?


Aside from "renaissancing" my 60s Gazelle Dutch twins, Huub and Mieke
(both of which are Sport Luxe single-speed coaster models, but will
get drum dynamo and 3 speed rear hubs), I plan to tweak/beautify the
Noodle bar setup on my Bomba, starting with a harlequin tape pattern,
funky whipping and a few coats of shellac.  I am debating what type of
cushion (if any) I can get away with near the hoods... any ideas?

Also I will be tweaking my rack and bag setup, including permanently
"installing" the bag-stiffeners in my VO Campagne handlebar bag, and
making it easier to put on/ take off the rack and/or attach inside my
Wald basket (which BTW I will first transform into a custom "Woody"
basket)...

Also building up a 1983 StumpJumper into a fine rider/commuter with
vintage parts.
Finally, adding internal-geared and dyno drum hubbed-wheels to a 1985
Rockhopper

(Jeez!!!  At this point it had better be a LONG winter... I mus'be
talkin boo... I'll never get through all of these projects )

BB

On Nov 8, 5:51 pm, William  wrote:
> I only shellack cloth bar tape.  I accidentally splatter frames with
> shellac, but that's all.
>
> Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne.  When the
> Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and
> taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt.
>
> On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
> > what you did.
>
> > This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
> > These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
> > boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
> > each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
> > clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
> > linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
> > (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
> > 6' length of 1/2" metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
> > inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
> > in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
> > capital "I" on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
> > to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
> > rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
> > strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William  wrote:
> > > In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
> > > shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> > > and ditch the can.
>
> > > On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> > >> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> > >> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
> > >> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> > >> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>
> > >> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > >> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > >> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > >> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > >> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > >> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > >> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > >> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > >> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > >> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > >> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > >> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > >> > project?  Take on a restoration?
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Mike
I imagine I'll be riding in the rain and cold a lot this winter
getting ready for springtime brevets. I'll probably replace the chains
on my QB and Hilsen. Change out brake pads. Hopefully I'll commit to
selling my Rambouillet frame and deal with selling it so that I can
replace it with something more tour worthy--Hunqa, SH or LHT.

I'm also hoping to read a lot this winter.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Beth H
Kevin Turinsky  wrote:
> Resurrect my original 1986 Ritchey Timbercomp by adding an Xtracycle
> to it.

Ooooh. Like.

I built up a longtail cargo bike about 4 years ago and have never
regretted it, even though it takes up a ton of storage space. It Just.
Hauls. Everything. Someday when I am really old I will add an electric-
assist kit and keep hauling.
Excellent project. Take pictures of the process and have fun with it.
beth

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Re: [RBW] Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread John Blish
Just in the case of Quickbeam / SimpleOne there might be a specific reason
that applies.

QB was made in Japan by Panasonic.  SimpleOne frame will come from Taiwan as
I understand it and is the fork going to be from Japan?.  QB was only ever
available as a complete bike AFAIK.  SimpleOne can be had as just frame and
fork, I believe.  I could be remembering all this incorrectly.

The different names are to distinguish the two different bikes *and* their
origins although they have the same design.  Yes?

Big Redwoods might have had some different tubes than Romulus even though
the geometry was the same.  Just a guess.

Grant wanted the big guys to feel special so he gave it a different name.
You know how the big guys are always whining and complaining about no frames
to fit them.   Boo Hoo.  Poor big guys.

Under this logic, technically the canti-Roms should have had a different
name, too, so maybe I have the whole thing wrong.  I think by the time GP
realized the canti-Roms were on the way it was too late to give them a
different name.  Remember, they were kind of unintended and produced due to
a less than perfect communication.

-jb - has a 58 QB and two 59 Romulus bikes and is not looking for a fight
with any big guys - in Minneapolis.

But if you are a big guy lets say I am in Buffalo, Wyoming.  Yeah, that's
where I am.



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> design.
> The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> its name.
> The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> Redwood.
> Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> price points on similar bikes?
>
> Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Kevin:

YOU MUST post pics of that... THAT will be sweet.

On Nov 9, 12:28 am, Kevin Turinsky  wrote:
> Resurrect my original 1986 Ritchey Timbercomp by adding an Xtracycle
> to it.
>
> On Nov 8, 5:34 pm, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I ride all winter.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:
> > > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > > project?  Take on a restoration?
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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread Beth H
Some of the earliest cool bags that Rivendell carried -- and brought
back to the forefront of American cycling consciousness as a result --
were from Carradice.
Thanks in no small part to Rivendell's efforts in that regard, we now
have dozens of excellent small bag makers across the country,
including Lemolo, ChicagoWig, Black Star, Freight and Acorn. I am glad
for all of them and the diversity of design and function their bags
offer.

I still love and adore my Carradice saddlebags -- my oldest is going
on 15 years now and could use some reproofing but still works great.
The problem is that Carradice has never really grown their production
to meet increased demand, especially since establishing "stockists"
worldwide, and now it takes months for a retailer to get their
Carradice order. (Disclaimer: my shop is a Carradice stockist.)
Carradice bags remain an excellent product, well-made and durable and
giving tremendous bang-for-the-buck/pound. But you need to be patient
and persistent to get one these days.

Meanwhile, Rivendell offers some excellent American-made bags that are
more expensive partly because of the quality, and partly because
they're American-made. I appreciate that Rivendell cares about the
state of American manufacturing and supports companies that are
committed to keeping it alive, even on a smaller scale. When my budget
allows, I am willing to pay the higher price for an American-made bag
or garment, because I know that the person who made it is being paid a
fair wage and works under safe, regulated working conditions. Not
incidentally, my American-made stuff tends to last longer these days
than its cheaper [Chinese-made] counterpart. Those things matter to
me, and I suspect they matter to quite a few other folks as well. If
they didn't, Rivendell's ethic wouldn't fly and they'd be scrambling
to offer the cheaper stuff in a hurry.

Be patient. More coolness is probably on the horizon.
beth

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Tim McNamara

Lords of the Tort.



On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:22 AM, cyclotourist wrote:


It's a way to avoid the wrath of Peter Jackson's attorneys.

Barristers of the Shire are no joke!


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Philip Williamson  
 wrote:

I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
changes model names and house brands the way they do?

The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
design.
The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
its name.
The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
Redwood.
Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.

On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
unchanged even in color (as far as I know).

Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
price points on similar bikes?

Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
 Philip

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[RBW] Re: Betty

2010-11-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Makes sense... The Gomez finish IS beatiful... clearly worth the extra
$... I wonder if further paint customization (ie creme headtube, etc.)
would be possible???

Hmmm

Thx,

BB

On Nov 9, 6:08 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Paint, I think. IIRC, the frames all come from Taiwan painted as
> Bettys. The Gomez frames get repainted in the US.
>
> IIRC
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Nov 8, 5:30 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Indeed... I sure am smitten by her beauty... Ah, but let's not forget
> > Betty's cousin, the International Man of Mixte himself, Yves Gomez...
> > THAT is one fine-looking bike; I only wish we'd see more of these..
> > and someone remind me againwhy are they priced higher than the
> > Betty?... (sorry if this question has been answered)
>
> > I can't help but see a Gomez in my future...
>
> > On Nov 8, 4:29 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
> > > I stared at that bike's pictures for quite a while. Thanks for linking it.
>
> > > In some ways, I think the Betty Foy is the nicest bike that Rivendell 
> > > sells.
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > >From: Rick 
> > > >Sent: Nov 8, 2010 12:41 PM
> > > >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > > >Subject: [RBW] Betty
>
> > > >My wife's newest latest:
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/
>
> > > >I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
> > > >note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?
>
> > > >Rick.
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Pesce
Well, buying and building my Sam was my Summer/Fall project, so I
guess riding it (as much as possible in CT) is my winter plan.
I am debating if my bars are so high that I want to swap my stem for a
dirt drop, but still haven't decided if I like the dirt drop w/
Noodles look.
If I swap it, don't like it, and swap it back that'll be two complete
re-tape-and-shellackings to do!

My old MTB commuter will get a headset refresh.

-Pete

On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread Ray Shine
I'm guessing that Riv just likes looking around and trying out new stuff.  One 
of those look-around products are the V-Brand bags, which have become my bag of 
choice over all the others with buckles.  I find the zippers and the Velcro 
hooks are the best for what I do with the bikes. In fact, I suggested to Grant 
that a V-Brand Banana bag would be a fine addition to his line, but that has 
not 
graced the sales racks at this point.  I  bought a V-Brand Boxy Bar bag, and 
really like it a lot. I did recently purchase a fine set of panniers from Swift 
Industries, another small USA maker.  I chose them over the V=Brand only 
because 
they were not joined as one unit, but are two separate bags like most 
panniers.   I am gradually transitioning all of my leather-buckled bags to 
V-Brand or Swift (then will have a on-line garage sale.)





From: Beth H 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 6:48:54 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

Some of the earliest cool bags that Rivendell carried -- and brought
back to the forefront of American cycling consciousness as a result --
were from Carradice.
Thanks in no small part to Rivendell's efforts in that regard, we now
have dozens of excellent small bag makers across the country,
including Lemolo, ChicagoWig, Black Star, Freight and Acorn. I am glad
for all of them and the diversity of design and function their bags
offer.

I still love and adore my Carradice saddlebags -- my oldest is going
on 15 years now and could use some reproofing but still works great.
The problem is that Carradice has never really grown their production
to meet increased demand, especially since establishing "stockists"
worldwide, and now it takes months for a retailer to get their
Carradice order. (Disclaimer: my shop is a Carradice stockist.)
Carradice bags remain an excellent product, well-made and durable and
giving tremendous bang-for-the-buck/pound. But you need to be patient
and persistent to get one these days.

Meanwhile, Rivendell offers some excellent American-made bags that are
more expensive partly because of the quality, and partly because
they're American-made. I appreciate that Rivendell cares about the
state of American manufacturing and supports companies that are
committed to keeping it alive, even on a smaller scale. When my budget
allows, I am willing to pay the higher price for an American-made bag
or garment, because I know that the person who made it is being paid a
fair wage and works under safe, regulated working conditions. Not
incidentally, my American-made stuff tends to last longer these days
than its cheaper [Chinese-made] counterpart. Those things matter to
me, and I suspect they matter to quite a few other folks as well. If
they didn't, Rivendell's ethic wouldn't fly and they'd be scrambling
to offer the cheaper stuff in a hurry.

Be patient. More coolness is probably on the horizon.
beth

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Gollum likely suggested the "Sackville" name, because he "hates
Bagginses"...

On Nov 9, 9:54 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> Lords of the Tort.
>
> On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:22 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's a way to avoid the wrath of Peter Jackson's attorneys.
>
> > Barristers of the Shire are no joke!
>
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Philip Williamson  
> >  wrote:
> > I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> > my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> > changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> > The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> > design.
> > The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> > its name.
> > The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> > Redwood.
> > Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> > On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> > unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> > Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> > bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> > price points on similar bikes?
>
> > Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
> >  Philip
>
> >  Philip Williamson
> >www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread rperks
Same here, and while I "get it", take a close look at the chain line
on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other
things going on down there?

Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard
right befor bed

On Nov 8, 9:50 pm, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> That was very cool. I watched it about four times to figure out what
> was going on. I think I need to watch it again to be sure.
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
>
> On Nov 8, 8:30 pm, Horace  wrote:
>
>
>
> > awesome!
>
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, manueljohnacosta <
>
> > manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM
>
> > > From the great folks at rivendell
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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread jlvota
Whoa, that is cool!

At first I thought that he was just coasting with a freewheel and
backpedaling in a uniform motion to make it appear that he was
pedaling forward when the video was played backward.  But then, if you
pause the video at 0:26, you can see that the chain appears to make a
figure 8 shape.

Whatever is going on, it looks like everyone is having a lot of fun.
Thanks for the link!

On Nov 8, 10:15 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM
>
> From the great folks at rivendell

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread cm
I think about 4-5 years ago Grant posted that the lawyers called and
said that they may have some issues with the names. The gist was if
the bikes/products had the names BEFORE the movie (like Rivendell)
they were ok, if the names came AFTER the movies, then they were not
ok. If i remember correctly he said the Legolas was definitely out and
the Quickbeam was questionable. I would guess that the name changes
are to be on the safe side. I would guess impending lawsuits/ threats
of lawsuits takes the fun away a little bit and they decided why not
just leave the LOTR thing  alone as much as possible.

Cheers!
cm

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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread jlvota
I just looked up retro-direct as I have never heard of it before, and
that makes perfect sense now.  Thanks for the knowledge.

On Nov 9, 8:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> Pretty sure it's a retro-direct drivetrain.
>
> On Nov 9, 7:38 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:25 AM, rperks  wrote:
> > > Same here, and while I "get it", take a close look at the chain line
> > > on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other
> > > things going on down there?
>
> > > Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard
> > > right befor bed
>
> > Here's the bit that confused me:
>
> >  They've played the video backward and had everyone doing everything
> > in reverse so that john could ride forward and
> > have it look like he was riding backward. This is all very cool.
>
> > But why, eventhough the video is being played backward is John
> > pedaling FORWARD and GOING backward.
>
> > -sv- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread RoadieRyan
Just got done replacing cabling and brakeshoes on my primary ride,
still lots of "dialing in" to be done and I have 3 bike projects in
various stages that need to be completed so I can clear out
space.for more bike projects ;-)

On Nov 9, 6:52 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> Well, buying and building my Sam was my Summer/Fall project, so I
> guess riding it (as much as possible in CT) is my winter plan.
> I am debating if my bars are so high that I want to swap my stem for a
> dirt drop, but still haven't decided if I like the dirt drop w/
> Noodles look.
> If I swap it, don't like it, and swap it back that'll be two complete
> re-tape-and-shellackings to do!
>
> My old MTB commuter will get a headset refresh.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Hence the four times through. It looks like the chain makes a figure
eight, so pedaling backwards drives it forward, I imagine the machine
was the genesis of the idea.

I think it's really well done, with lots of cool details. I didn't
even see the guy "pouring" water the first time. I'm totally
impressed.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
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On Nov 9, 5:25 am, rperks  wrote:
> Same here, and while I "get it", take a close look at the chain line
> on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other
> things going on down there?
>
> Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard
> right befor bed
>
> On Nov 8, 9:50 pm, Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
> > That was very cool. I watched it about four times to figure out what
> > was going on. I think I need to watch it again to be sure.
>
> >  Philip
>
> >  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
>
> > On Nov 8, 8:30 pm, Horace  wrote:
>
> > > awesome!
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, manueljohnacosta <
>
> > > manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM
>
> > > > From the great folks at rivendell
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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread RoadieRyan
David Congrats

I hope to be joining the RBW ranks with an AMOS when they become
available.  I don't have personal experience with PW hubs but my
neighbor has a rear wheel built with a PW and loves it.  Depending on
your terrain you could opt for the Phil Wood Freewheel hubs from Riv
over the Cassette hubs and save some $$ while still getting a great
hub and still have up to 21 speeds at your finger tips.

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/phil-rivy-hubs/18-259

I think the full wheelset with a 7 speed FW rear wheel is a north of
$600

Anyway good luck and enjoy picking out parts!


Ryan

On Nov 9, 6:49 am, "Frederick, Steve" 
wrote:
> Congrats and welcome!
>
> I'm partial to White Industry hubs myself.  Not sure you'd save any money 
> with them over PW's though...
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of dhk42
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:16 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] AHH on order
>
> First post!
>
> I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> the topic. :-)
>
> But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> lots of touring.
>
> First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
> David
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Jon Grant
On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, William  asked:
>  What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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Mission: All Bike on the Road: Make every frame a rideable bike or give it
to someone who will. Catch up with cleaning and maintenance on bikes being
ridden now, including tool kits, pumps, fenders, racks, and bags.
Re-organize the Big Ol' Box O' Parts in the process.

Currently, we have 11 rideable bikes (including a pair of Burley Piccolos
and the borrowed bakfiets, but not including the kid trailer), two
unridable, and two bare frames ‹ and possibly another on the way. We have
four bikes out on indefinite loan in Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama.

--
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Austin, Texas




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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
I concur with the 'fast, stable, amazing.' I am 200 - 240 lbs, so the
heavier-than-Legolas tubing is probably right in line. I think I read
that it's lighter tubing than the Hillborne?

The stem/bar setup is a Salsa stem and WTB flared drops. I love them
like I love burritos. And I looove burritos.

-Akbar

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Nov 8, 7:41 pm, swenindy  wrote:
> Nice to hear all the QB love.  I got a first year green one five
> (six?) years ago on ebay for a deal and I can't say exactly but it it
> has to have over 10,000 miles on it from me and it was already well
> ridden by the previous owner.  I've built three vintage touring bikes
> and a couple of other bikes in the last few years and they all sit un-
> ridden until I strip them down and sell off the parts and frames.  Now
> I only have the QB and a late-80s mountain bike with albatross bars
> and big baskets front and rear for my short daily commute (one mile,
> bummer) and grocery runs.  I can't explain it but no other bike
> "feels" like the QB.  Fast, stable, amazing.  I rode it 3k this summer
> alone (estimated because I don't have a computer or racks, just a old
> big baggins saddle bag for when I need to transport a couple of
> bombers of home brew to a friend's house).  I'm saving for a
> Hunqua...but it could be a while.
>
> pics some time.
>
> and to the OP: what is the stem/bar set up?  I run a short nitto stem
> and the wide noodle bars but I'm thinking of going higher and that
> looks sweet.
>
> b
>
> On Nov 8, 6:03 pm, Mojo  wrote:
>
> > Patrick,
>
> > I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
> > say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
> > the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
> > frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
> > that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
> > tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
> > walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
> > since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV
>
> > On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>
> > > > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> > > > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> > > > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> > > > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> > > > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> > > > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> > > > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>
> > > I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> > > replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> > > Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> > > between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> > > available as a frameset?

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread grant
Name changes
It's a mix of bad decisions, good decisions, fear of lawyers, and not
wanting to go the way of Specialized and REI, with Rockhopper and
Allez being a steel bike with a unifork then, and a totally diff bike
now; and the Randonneur being steel then and Whatever it is now.
The people who own the rights to Middle Earth names did contact us,
but it turns out they didn't have exactly an elephant's leg to stand
on (more like a pirate's), and as  part of a no-money exchanged
settlement, we agreed to retire certain names, with QB being one of
them, and Baggins. Some of the others we can keep. And "Rivendell."

When you change a bike some and don't change the name there's always
the chance that somebody will wreck the original and want to replace
it, and now they can't get the same name, even if it is essentially
the same bike. In the SimpleOne's casethe plan was to come close
to the QB, but minorly change it. It will likely be a ONE speed
(depends on some things beyond our control right now), and so the ONE
makes sense. It will have sidepulls. Now that we have sidepulls with
dimensions that allow good clearances, it's time.

So...that's 'bout it!
G

On Nov 9, 12:16 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> design.
> The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> its name.
> The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> Redwood.
> Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> price points on similar bikes?
>
> Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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[RBW] FS: Black Carradice Pendle

2010-11-09 Thread Sean Whelan
All this talk of bags, good and bad, has me finally motivated to buy a Berthoud.

In order to keep things right in my personal bag inventory, I will unload my 
Carradice Pendle. Bought new from Sheldon Brown and the folks at Harris Cyclery 
some years back. 11 liter capacity, black with white leather, outside pockets. 
Fits from the bag loops on your Brooks.

Used on a handful of rides, but I never really had the right use / bike for it. 
The white leather looks a bit grubby, and the canvas is marked from some dustry 
rail-trail usage. I will email detailed pics to any interested parties.

looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/25laykq

detailed bag info here: http://tinyurl.com/carradice

$65 dollars shipped

Cheers,
Sean



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Re: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread erik jensen
I think some bags, like the Brand V BoxyBar, are an incredible deal. You'd
be hard pressed to find a decent front bag for less than 75. Hell, I spent
90 dollars just to get a front rack.

It's not all high-brow, and yes i think much of it comes down to just
enjoying trying out different methods of carrying items.

We cyclists like simple pleasures, no?

Erik "loves his 20 dollar tweed country bags from the garage sale" Jensen

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Ray Shine  wrote:

> I'm guessing that Riv just likes looking around and trying out new stuff.
> One of those look-around products are the V-Brand bags, which have become my
> bag of choice over all the others with buckles.  I find the zippers and the
> Velcro hooks are the best for what I do with the bikes. In fact, I suggested
> to Grant that a V-Brand Banana bag would be a fine addition to his line, but
> that has not graced the sales racks at this point.  I  bought a V-Brand Boxy
> Bar bag, and really like it a lot. I did recently purchase a fine set of
> panniers from Swift Industries, another small USA maker.  I chose them over
> the V=Brand only because they were not joined as one unit, but are two
> separate bags like most panniers.   I am gradually transitioning all of my
> leather-buckled bags to V-Brand or Swift (then will have a on-line garage
> sale.)
>
> --
> *From:* Beth H 
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Sent:* Tue, November 9, 2010 6:48:54 AM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?
>
> Some of the earliest cool bags that Rivendell carried -- and brought
> back to the forefront of American cycling consciousness as a result --
> were from Carradice.
> Thanks in no small part to Rivendell's efforts in that regard, we now
> have dozens of excellent small bag makers across the country,
> including Lemolo, ChicagoWig, Black Star, Freight and Acorn. I am glad
> for all of them and the diversity of design and function their bags
> offer.
>
> I still love and adore my Carradice saddlebags -- my oldest is going
> on 15 years now and could use some reproofing but still works great.
> The problem is that Carradice has never really grown their production
> to meet increased demand, especially since establishing "stockists"
> worldwide, and now it takes months for a retailer to get their
> Carradice order. (Disclaimer: my shop is a Carradice stockist.)
> Carradice bags remain an excellent product, well-made and durable and
> giving tremendous bang-for-the-buck/pound. But you need to be patient
> and persistent to get one these days.
>
> Meanwhile, Rivendell offers some excellent American-made bags that are
> more expensive partly because of the quality, and partly because
> they're American-made. I appreciate that Rivendell cares about the
> state of American manufacturing and supports companies that are
> committed to keeping it alive, even on a smaller scale. When my budget
> allows, I am willing to pay the higher price for an American-made bag
> or garment, because I know that the person who made it is being paid a
> fair wage and works under safe, regulated working conditions. Not
> incidentally, my American-made stuff tends to last longer these days
> than its cheaper [Chinese-made] counterpart. Those things matter to
> me, and I suspect they matter to quite a few other folks as well. If
> they didn't, Rivendell's ethic wouldn't fly and they'd be scrambling
> to offer the cheaper stuff in a hurry.
>
> Be patient. More coolness is probably on the horizon.
> beth
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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread William
This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?

On Nov 9, 9:03 am, grant  wrote:
> Name changes
> It's a mix of bad decisions, good decisions, fear of lawyers, and not
> wanting to go the way of Specialized and REI, with Rockhopper and
> Allez being a steel bike with a unifork then, and a totally diff bike
> now; and the Randonneur being steel then and Whatever it is now.
> The people who own the rights to Middle Earth names did contact us,
> but it turns out they didn't have exactly an elephant's leg to stand
> on (more like a pirate's), and as  part of a no-money exchanged
> settlement, we agreed to retire certain names, with QB being one of
> them, and Baggins. Some of the others we can keep. And "Rivendell."
>
> When you change a bike some and don't change the name there's always
> the chance that somebody will wreck the original and want to replace
> it, and now they can't get the same name, even if it is essentially
> the same bike. In the SimpleOne's casethe plan was to come close
> to the QB, but minorly change it. It will likely be a ONE speed
> (depends on some things beyond our control right now), and so the ONE
> makes sense. It will have sidepulls. Now that we have sidepulls with
> dimensions that allow good clearances, it's time.
>
> So...that's 'bout it!
> G
>
> On Nov 9, 12:16 am, Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
> > I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> > my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> > changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> > The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> > design.
> > The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> > its name.
> > The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> > Redwood.
> > Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> > On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> > unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> > Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> > bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> > price points on similar bikes?
>
> > Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
> >  Philip
>
> >  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread Ray Shine
I'm guessing that Riv just likes looking around and trying out new  stuff.  One 
of those look-around products are the V-Brand bags, which  have become my bag 
of 
choice over all the others with buckles.  I find  the zippers and the Velcro 
hooks are the best for what I do with the  bikes. In fact, I suggested to Grant 
that a V-Brand Banana bag would be a fine addition to his line, but that has 
not 
graced the sales  racks at this point.  I  bought a V-Brand Boxy Bar bag, and 
really like  it a lot. I did recently purchase a fine set of panniers from 
Swift  
Industries, another small USA maker.  I chose them over the V=Brand only  
because they were not joined as one unit, but are two separate bags  like most 
panniers.   I am gradually transitioning all of my  leather-buckled  bags to 
V-Brand or Swift (then will have a on-line garage sale.)







From: erik jensen 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:29:15 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

I think some bags, like the Brand V BoxyBar, are an incredible deal. You'd be 
hard pressed to find a decent front bag for less than 75. Hell, I spent 90 
dollars just to get a front rack.

It's not all high-brow, and yes i think much of it comes down to just enjoying 
trying out different methods of carrying items.

We cyclists like simple pleasures, no?

Erik "loves his 20 dollar tweed country bags from the garage sale" Jensen


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Ray Shine  wrote:

I'm guessing that Riv just likes looking around and trying out new stuff.  One 
of those look-around products are the V-Brand bags, which have become my bag of 
choice over all the others with buckles.  I find the zippers and the Velcro 
hooks are the best for what I do with the bikes. In fact, I suggested to Grant 
that a V-Brand Banana bag would be a fine addition to his line, but that has 
not 
graced the sales racks at this point.  I  bought a V-Brand Boxy Bar bag, and 
really like it a lot. I did recently purchase a fine set of panniers from Swift 
Industries, another small USA maker.  I chose them over the V=Brand only 
because 
they were not joined as one unit, but are two separate bags like most 
panniers.   I am gradually transitioning all of my leather-buckled  bags to 
V-Brand or Swift (then will have a on-line garage sale.)
>
>
>
>

From: Beth H 
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 6:48:54 AM
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?
>
>
>Some of the earliest cool bags that Rivendell carried -- and brought
>back to the forefront of American cycling consciousness as a result --
>were from Carradice.
>Thanks in no small part to Rivendell's efforts in that regard, we now
>have dozens of excellent small bag makers across the country,
>including Lemolo, ChicagoWig, Black Star, Freight and Acorn. I am glad
>for all of them and the diversity of design and function their bags
>offer.
>
>I still love and adore my Carradice saddlebags -- my oldest is going
>on 15 years now and could use some reproofing but still works great.
>The problem is that Carradice has never really grown their production
>to meet increased demand, especially since establishing "stockists"
>worldwide, and now it takes months for a retailer to get their
>Carradice order. (Disclaimer: my shop is a Carradice stockist.)
>Carradice bags remain an excellent product, well-made and durable and
>giving  tremendous bang-for-the-buck/pound. But you need to be patient
>and persistent to get one these days.
>
>Meanwhile, Rivendell offers some excellent American-made bags that are
>more expensive partly because of the quality, and partly because
>they're American-made. I appreciate that Rivendell cares about the
>state of American manufacturing and supports companies that are
>committed to keeping it alive, even on a smaller scale. When my budget
>allows, I am willing to pay the higher price for an American-made bag
>or garment, because I know that the person who made it is being paid a
>fair wage and works under safe, regulated working conditions. Not
>incidentally, my American-made stuff tends to last longer these days
>than its cheaper [Chinese-made] counterpart. Those things matter to
>me, and I suspect they matter to quite a few other folks as well. If
>they didn't, Rivendell's ethic wouldn't fly and they'd be  scrambling
>to offer the cheaper stuff in a hurry.
>
>Be patient. More coolness is probably on the horizon.
>beth
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Re: [RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Jon Grant
William  wondered:

This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?

---

Aloysius.

--
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Austin, Texas


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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread William
Aloysius was my obvious first guess.  Second guess was Abercrombie.
Third guess was Augustus.  Fourth guess was Archibald.

On Nov 9, 9:04 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> William  wondered:
>
> This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
> when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
> for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?
>
> ---
>
> Aloysius.
>
> --
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> Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread kuma
On Nov 8, 11:31 pm, "E.B."  wrote:
> But the biggest reason I think a Phil hub would be worth your
> consideration is the option of building a 40-spoke rear wheel.  At 250-
> lbs with the intention of some unpaved riding, this would be
> reassuring.  I don't see 40-hole hubs or rims offered on RBW's site,
> but they could possibly get them for a build for you.  

XT hubs also come in 40 spoke configurations and can be paired with
strong Velocity Dyad rims.

dhk42,

Before you make a decision about hubs, have you considered a dynamo
hub?  Dynamo hubs are used to power a headlight (plus an optional
taillight) using just your pedal power.  They are really a great
option if you ride at night.  Even if you don't currently ride at
night, a dynamo hub can open up a whole new world for you: riding at
night is really beautiful.

Check out Peter White's website here for more information on dynamo
hubs:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Schmidt.asp

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[RBW] 71cm AHH Q2

2010-11-09 Thread dhk42
I apologize in advance if the question comes through twice. I tried to
reply to myself to keep the discussion in one thread, but that didn't
seem to post.

First thanks for the opinions on the first question. The support for
Phil hubs was overwhelming. I'll have to see how deep I can dig after
I've spec'd the rest of this out.

Question 2 then: B-17 Special or B-67 saddle?

The plan is Albatross bars with Thumbie shifters, so a more upright
riding stance. B-17 was still recommended as a great all around saddle
choice. I have no experience to use as the basis for a decision.

Thanks,

David

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread cm
I had a few of the older bags and have a few of the newer bags. To me,
the new bags blow the socks off the old bags. Everything about them is
better. So why go back?

Cheers!
cm

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Re: [RBW] Re: AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread John Speare
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:02 AM, kuma  wrote:

> On Nov 8, 11:31 pm, "E.B."  wrote:
> > But the biggest reason I think a Phil hub would be worth your
> > consideration is the option of building a 40-spoke rear wheel.  At 250-
> > lbs with the intention of some unpaved riding, this would be
> > reassuring.  I don't see 40-hole hubs or rims offered on RBW's site,
> > but they could possibly get them for a build for you.
>
> XT hubs also come in 40 spoke configurations and can be paired with
> strong Velocity Dyad rims.
>
> dhk42,
>
> Before you make a decision about hubs, have you considered a dynamo
> hub?  Dynamo hubs are used to power a headlight (plus an optional
> taillight) using just your pedal power.  They are really a great
> option if you ride at night.  Even if you don't currently ride at
> night, a dynamo hub can open up a whole new world for you: riding at
> night is really beautiful.
>
>
> Agreed on the dyno suggestion. I can't imagine a basic do-all bike without
dyno lighting.

I'm also partial to shimano - easy to service and good enough. But be wary
of the latest XT hubs... they use an aluminum axel that likes to strip out.
And since it's aluminum, they increased the diameter to make up strength.
And since they increased the axel diameter, the bearings shrunk a bit. And
with smaller bearings, there are numerous reports of bearing failure (in
addition to axel stripping) online with the new XT hubs.

LX have alway suited me anyway. They are a few grams heavier than XT and
don't always have the nicest finish, but they work well for the riding I do.
If I was a one-bike owner, I'd consider white, or king, or phil hubs, but
I'd rather go with better bottom brackets than hubs...


> --
> John Speare
> Spokane, WA USA
> http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/
>

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[RBW] Re: 71cm AHH Q2

2010-11-09 Thread William
I think the thinking goes that the more upright your riding position
the wider a seat you may need.  Too wide is lame if pedaling shifts
your pelvis so far forward that you are sitting on the nose of the
saddle and not back on your sit bones where you belong.  If I were
setting up an Alba-bike for myself I would start with a B68, which is
a spring-less B67.  On an upright drop bar bike or a bullmoose bike I
use the B-17, and on a go fast I use a narrower lighter saddle
still.

By the way, your size and your upright fit with an Alba bar will put
somewhat more stress on your rear wheel, so consider that when you
choose your hub and your spoke count.

On Nov 9, 5:16 am, dhk42  wrote:
> I apologize in advance if the question comes through twice. I tried to
> reply to myself to keep the discussion in one thread, but that didn't
> seem to post.
>
> First thanks for the opinions on the first question. The support for
> Phil hubs was overwhelming. I'll have to see how deep I can dig after
> I've spec'd the rest of this out.
>
> Question 2 then: B-17 Special or B-67 saddle?
>
> The plan is Albatross bars with Thumbie shifters, so a more upright
> riding stance. B-17 was still recommended as a great all around saddle
> choice. I have no experience to use as the basis for a decision.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David

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[RBW] Hunqapillar on order

2010-11-09 Thread jennings
Should be here by Friday.  58cm.  Can't wait.  Feel like a kid on
Christmas.

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[RBW] Re: 71cm AHH Q2

2010-11-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Right-on assessment... The good news is that although you'll get a
bunch of opinions on these saddles, they're likely to be reasonably
consistent (and positive).  My own personal opinions based on my
experience:

B68 ... Love it for around town and commuting... for the shorter ride
I haven't found a more comfy seat; potential rubbing/chaffing on
longer, epic rides
B17 (standard)... My all around fave... can't go wrong... I switched
to riding B17s on my mountain bikes over the past 4-5 years... this is
THE SADDLE
B17 Special... Adds a little bling and a little longevity (tougher
than the B17), but in my estimation removes a little comfort...
Flyer Special (like a sprung B17 Special)... Pure eye candy, but in my
experience NOT as comfy as the B17 standard, despite the springs.

Honestly I don't think you could go wrong with any of these.  BTW I'm
6'1", 230 lbs

BB

On Nov 9, 2:55 pm, William  wrote:
> I think the thinking goes that the more upright your riding position
> the wider a seat you may need.  Too wide is lame if pedaling shifts
> your pelvis so far forward that you are sitting on the nose of the
> saddle and not back on your sit bones where you belong.  If I were
> setting up an Alba-bike for myself I would start with a B68, which is
> a spring-less B67.  On an upright drop bar bike or a bullmoose bike I
> use the B-17, and on a go fast I use a narrower lighter saddle
> still.
>
> By the way, your size and your upright fit with an Alba bar will put
> somewhat more stress on your rear wheel, so consider that when you
> choose your hub and your spoke count.
>
> On Nov 9, 5:16 am, dhk42  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I apologize in advance if the question comes through twice. I tried to
> > reply to myself to keep the discussion in one thread, but that didn't
> > seem to post.
>
> > First thanks for the opinions on the first question. The support for
> > Phil hubs was overwhelming. I'll have to see how deep I can dig after
> > I've spec'd the rest of this out.
>
> > Question 2 then: B-17 Special or B-67 saddle?
>
> > The plan is Albatross bars with Thumbie shifters, so a more upright
> > riding stance. B-17 was still recommended as a great all around saddle
> > choice. I have no experience to use as the basis for a decision.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > David- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Although I have a Phil hub on my Bomba, (and Hadleys on my MTB), I
believe that $ for $ the XTs could perhaps be the best hubs ever...
I've owned several sets of XTs and they've never let me down, they
roll really well and they last a long time.  (I actually have a set of
early vintage 36-hole XT hubs that I'm lacing up for a Stumpy
restore)... These hubs are downright thrilling...

On Nov 9, 1:02 pm, kuma  wrote:
> On Nov 8, 11:31 pm, "E.B."  wrote:
>
> > But the biggest reason I think a Phil hub would be worth your
> > consideration is the option of building a 40-spoke rear wheel.  At 250-
> > lbs with the intention of some unpaved riding, this would be
> > reassuring.  I don't see 40-hole hubs or rims offered on RBW's site,
> > but they could possibly get them for a build for you.  
>
> XT hubs also come in 40 spoke configurations and can be paired with
> strong Velocity Dyad rims.
>
> dhk42,
>
> Before you make a decision about hubs, have you considered a dynamo
> hub?  Dynamo hubs are used to power a headlight (plus an optional
> taillight) using just your pedal power.  They are really a great
> option if you ride at night.  Even if you don't currently ride at
> night, a dynamo hub can open up a whole new world for you: riding at
> night is really beautiful.
>
> Check out Peter White's website here for more information on dynamo
> hubs:
>
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Schmidt.asp

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

2010-11-09 Thread bfd


On Nov 9, 11:45 am, John Speare  wrote:
> I'm also partial to shimano - easy to service and good enough. But be wary
> of the latest XT hubs... they use an aluminum axel that likes to strip out.
> And since it's aluminum, they increased the diameter to make up strength.
> And since they increased the axel diameter, the bearings shrunk a bit.

Agree in part. On the ibob list, Alex Wetmore warned about the
aluminum axle threads stripping on the "new XT" hubs :

"A friend has broken 3 of them.

The axle itself doesn't break. The threads on the axle strip where the
axle end
threads on. The threads are tiny, it looks like they are 1mm pitch.
Here is a
photo showing the damage:

http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Shimano-XT-Aluminum-Axle/10997988_eTAGA#768940509_7GQHt

It looks like the end cap only had a couple threads of engagement with
the
oversized axle. This hub wasn't adjusted, it is how it came from the
Shimano
factory. It was the stock wheel on a Surly LHT.

In the background is a standard steel axle for comparison."

> And with smaller bearings, there are numerous reports of bearing failure (in
> addition to axel stripping) online with the new XT hubs.

> LX have alway suited me anyway. They are a few grams heavier than XT and
> don't always have the nicest finish, but they work well for the riding I do.
> If I was a one-bike owner, I'd consider white, or king, or phil hubs, but
> I'd rather go with better bottom brackets than hubs...


Alex also recommended the LX/SLX hubs stating:

"The new design also means that Shimano is using 3/16" (4.5mm) balls
in the hub
races instead of 1/4" (6.25mm) ones on the new XT hub.

I've been recommending modern LX/SLX hubs to friends instead of XT for
this
reason."

On the other hand, Campy has used an oversized aluminum axle in its
hubs since around 1999 and you just don't have about its thread
stripping or any problem with the ball bearings (5/32"). Of course,
there's a lot less Campy hubs out there than Shimano, so that may not
mean much.Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar on order

2010-11-09 Thread Mike
Congrats, you must be excited. So many questions for you. Are you
setting it up as an all-rounder? Dedicated mountain bike? Touring rig?
What kind of bars will you be using? Had you been waiting long for it?
Frame or complete bike?

I'm curious about fit, did you go big or small? According to Riv's
recommendations I'd ride a 58, I have a saddle height of 80cm. Just
sorta curious, what's your saddle height?

Looking forward to hearing more about it and seeing pictures. I'm sure
you'll enjoy it.

--mike

On Nov 9, 12:19 pm, jennings  wrote:
> Should be here by Friday.  58cm.  Can't wait.  Feel like a kid on
> Christmas.

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread William
and I took the fun out of it by calling Riv.  Dave (who owns and
A.H.H.) didn't know, so he asked Grant.  He came back to the phone to
say it's just A.  It doesn't stand for anything.  Maybe like the 'J'
in Michael 'J' Fox or the 'S' in Ulysses 'S' Grant.  Dave encouraged
me to have my 'A' stand for whatever I want it to stand for.

On Nov 9, 10:11 am, William  wrote:
> Aloysius was my obvious first guess.  Second guess was Abercrombie.
> Third guess was Augustus.  Fourth guess was Archibald.
>
> On Nov 9, 9:04 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
>
> > William  wondered:
>
> > This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
> > when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
> > for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?
>
> > ---
>
> > Aloysius.
>
> > --
> > Jon "Truly Clueless" Grant, who wants to ride but should work, in
> > Austin, Texas
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 71cm AHH Q2

2010-11-09 Thread Jon Grant
David (I think) asked:

> Question 2 then: B-17 Special or B-67 saddle?

---
Disclosures: I¹m 5'-9", 225 lbs. None of my bikes have bars lower than
saddle height, so I can't speak to that condition. Also, I cannot speak
knowledgeably of saddle other than Brooks, except to say that none I've
tried fit my hind end as well ‹ by a large margin.

I use the B.17 Champion Special (275mm x 175mm) on bikes with drop bars
level or slightly higher than the saddle. I use a Champion Flyer Special
(same dimensions as a B.17 + springs) on my full-rigid mountain bike, where
the rough terrain warrants some suspension. I use a Champ Flyer S (242mm x
176mm + springs) on a townie, shared with my wife, with Albatross-ish bars
where my position is more upright. I have a B.68 S (240mm x 205mm) on a
Bakfiets cargo bike with a very upright position, but I would trade it today
for B.67 (260mm x 205mm + springs) ‹ it really needs a wide saddle with
springs.

If I were setting up a road bike with Albatross bars level-ish with the
saddle, I'd probably want a Champ Flyer Special. If I planned to raise the
bars two or more inches, I might move to a B.67.

--
Jon ³Papa² Grant, in
Austin, Texas


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread andrew hill
man.  now i want a retro-direct SimpleOne.

-andrew

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

2010-11-09 Thread Jim M.
What a great looking bunch of Quickbeams and SimpleOnes!

I had to stew on this question for a while. My conclusion is that my
QB is one of my 3 main bikes. I have a big-knobbed 29er for long mtb
rides. I have a Legolas for hilly road rides and dirt road rides. I
have the QB for commuting and errands; road rides without too many
hills; and occasional dirt rides. I would say my time spent on these
bikes is divided pretty equally, though in any week I may spend much
more time on one.

One of my favorite aspects of the QB is it's versatility. I've had
mine set up as a fixed-gear monstercross, as a sorta rando-beam, and
currently it has bullmoose bars and commuting gear. I have thought of
acquiring a 2nd 'beam or a SimpleOne so I could have one with drops
and one with upright bars. If I win the lottery I will for sure.

jim m
wc ca

On Nov 5, 8:32 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> I was looking at A D's fantastic 
> SimpleOne:http://www.flickr.com/photos/livepake/5133139965/
> I think because it looked so beautiful, I wondered if it was his main
> bike, or one of many.
>
> That made me wonder who of us with QBs consider it our primary bike,
> and who uses it for a specialized purpose, or as a fun secondary
> bike.
>
> My Quickbeam is my main bike. I ride it the most, I lavish the most
> attention on it, and it's the one I consider "my bike!" I have two
> other bikes: a geared mtb, and another 2-speed road bike.
> My Quickbeam this 
> morning:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/5149030862/
>
> So, Quickbeam owners, is your QB your "main bike?"
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Or go DaVinci! Couplers, that is.

Here's what one example looks like...

http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/pictures/20101017.xml

Submitted for your perusal.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Nov 9, 8:52 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> Well, buying and building my Sam was my Summer/Fall project, so I
> guess riding it (as much as possible in CT) is my winter plan.
> I am debating if my bars are so high that I want to swap my stem for a
> dirt drop, but still haven't decided if I like the dirt drop w/
> Noodles look.
> If I swap it, don't like it, and swap it back that'll be two complete
> re-tape-and-shellackings to do!
>
> My old MTB commuter will get a headset refresh.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, William  wrote:
>
>
>
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar on order

2010-11-09 Thread jennings
Plan on setting it up more so as a touring rig.  I'm 6'1, 225 with a
pbh of 88.  Right now I am putting a Technomic stem with 46 noodle
bars.  I eventually want a lugged stem for it.  I have a set of 40
hole phil touring wheels for it, the rear is actually getting respaced
now from 126 to 135.  When I called they said they had the frames in
stock, but they needed to be sent off to get painted and that would
take about 2 months.  5 days later they called me and said that they
actually had a 58 painted in stock so here it comes.  All I need now
are brakes, bottom bracket and cranks.  Thinking of going with the
Phil bottom bracket.

On Nov 9, 5:17 pm, Mike  wrote:
> Congrats, you must be excited. So many questions for you. Are you
> setting it up as an all-rounder? Dedicated mountain bike? Touring rig?
> What kind of bars will you be using? Had you been waiting long for it?
> Frame or complete bike?
>
> I'm curious about fit, did you go big or small? According to Riv's
> recommendations I'd ride a 58, I have a saddle height of 80cm. Just
> sorta curious, what's your saddle height?
>
> Looking forward to hearing more about it and seeing pictures. I'm sure
> you'll enjoy it.
>
> --mike
>
> On Nov 9, 12:19 pm, jennings  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Should be here by Friday.  58cm.  Can't wait.  Feel like a kid on
> > Christmas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Phil Brown

I will be assembling and riding the Saluki I'm staring at right now.
Phil Brown

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[RBW] Ordered a Bombadil

2010-11-09 Thread Kelly
Ok so I got my 64 cm double horizontal top tube frame paid for and
sent off to paint.  (or close)

I was going to set it up strickly as a tour bike, but now I'm thinking
that would be great for the tours but what about the other 49 or 50
weeks a year.

Keven about has me talked into Moustache bars and thinking about the
Albatross.

Then we talked about making it as different from my AHH as possible
and going with 700x80 tires and fenders.

Tonight I ordered a Shimano dyno hub.  I've never had one before
figured it was a good place to start.  Thanks again Keven.  If you
know what level lights that would be brighter then a Nite Rider Minewt
I'd be a happy camper.

My PBH is 96.5 .. I was going to go with a Nitto Standard 10 cm then I
read some place that it might look different with the sloping top
tube???  Not sure I like the dirtdrop but, no good reason.

Now I'm getting a headache thinking about it to much.  How would one
make a quick change setup between the Moustache bars and Drop Bars..
without retaping???

later

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

2010-11-09 Thread twin

I have the cheap persons Quickbeam which is a San Jose in the washed
out blue. I have Phil wheels Brooks saddle and the rest is stock for
now. I waited to long for a Quickbeam and might consider a Simpleone.
It is my main ride and I really enjoy ss.
On Nov 8, 5:03 pm, Mojo  wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
> say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
> the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
> frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
> that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
> tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
> walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
> since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV
>
> On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>
> > > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> > > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> > > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> > > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> > > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> > > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> > > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>
> > I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> > replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> > Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> > between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> > available as a frameset?

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[RBW] Wanted: Saluki, Sam Hillborne or Bombadil complete bike or frame only

2010-11-09 Thread williwoods
This is my first post here and looking forward to riding a Rivendell
soon. This would actually be my first practical bike.

Looking to purchase  a Saluki or a Sam Hillborne or maybe a Bombadil.
preference in that order.

I would prefer to purchase a complete bike but am open to frame and
fork sets`as well.

My PBH is 80cm and I am 5'9"

I am located in Culver City Ca (los Angeles) but am open to travel or
ship the bike if you are not local.


email: willh...@yahoo.com

let me know what you have.

Will

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[RBW] Re: Ordered a Bombadil

2010-11-09 Thread newenglandbike
Welcome to the Bombadil club (in particular, the parallel-TT bombadil
club).Between the dyno-hub and fat tires it sounds like you're
going to end up with a sweet setup.

As far as stems go, I have a Nitto dirt-drop 100mm on mine, which
gives a horizontal extension/reach equivalent to about an 8mm 73deg
stem I believe.It's very comfortable and puts the bars in a good
spot.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/5162347005/

If you're anything like me, you'll love the bombadil and will end up
having to force yourself to ride your other bikes sometimes, out of
guilt.




On Nov 9, 7:56 pm, Kelly  wrote:
> Ok so I got my 64 cm double horizontal top tube frame paid for and
> sent off to paint.  (or close)
>
> I was going to set it up strickly as a tour bike, but now I'm thinking
> that would be great for the tours but what about the other 49 or 50
> weeks a year.
>
> Keven about has me talked into Moustache bars and thinking about the
> Albatross.
>
> Then we talked about making it as different from my AHH as possible
> and going with 700x80 tires and fenders.
>
> Tonight I ordered a Shimano dyno hub.  I've never had one before
> figured it was a good place to start.  Thanks again Keven.  If you
> know what level lights that would be brighter then a Nite Rider Minewt
> I'd be a happy camper.
>
> My PBH is 96.5 .. I was going to go with a Nitto Standard 10 cm then I
> read some place that it might look different with the sloping top
> tube???  Not sure I like the dirtdrop but, no good reason.
>
> Now I'm getting a headache thinking about it to much.  How would one
> make a quick change setup between the Moustache bars and Drop Bars..
> without retaping???
>
> later
>
> Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar on order

2010-11-09 Thread Mike
Wow, that sounds great. Looking forward to pictures although I imagine
that can't compete with your anticipation about riding it. What will
you do for brakes? Cantis or Vs?

On Nov 9, 5:28 pm, jennings  wrote:
> Plan on setting it up more so as a touring rig.  I'm 6'1, 225 with a
> pbh of 88.  Right now I am putting a Technomic stem with 46 noodle
> bars.  I eventually want a lugged stem for it.  I have a set of 40
> hole phil touring wheels for it, the rear is actually getting respaced
> now from 126 to 135.  When I called they said they had the frames in
> stock, but they needed to be sent off to get painted and that would
> take about 2 months.  5 days later they called me and said that they
> actually had a 58 painted in stock so here it comes.  All I need now
> are brakes, bottom bracket and cranks.  Thinking of going with the
> Phil bottom bracket.
>
> On Nov 9, 5:17 pm, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Congrats, you must be excited. So many questions for you. Are you
> > setting it up as an all-rounder? Dedicated mountain bike? Touring rig?
> > What kind of bars will you be using? Had you been waiting long for it?
> > Frame or complete bike?
>
> > I'm curious about fit, did you go big or small? According to Riv's
> > recommendations I'd ride a 58, I have a saddle height of 80cm. Just
> > sorta curious, what's your saddle height?
>
> > Looking forward to hearing more about it and seeing pictures. I'm sure
> > you'll enjoy it.
>
> > --mike
>
> > On Nov 9, 12:19 pm, jennings  wrote:
>
> > > Should be here by Friday.  58cm.  Can't wait.  Feel like a kid on
> > > Christmas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread benzzoy
The true cost of running a car is actually higher than what most
people think.  The AAA estimates that overall, for an average driver
in an average car doing the national annual average distance of 15,000
miles, it's $9,641 per year.  That's that with the lower 2006 gasoline
prices.

Obviously, one can go higher or lower than that, but the amount is
quite unlike what most will guess.

Cite: http://tinyurl.com/37d5ev

I don't believe even Rivendell charges that much for its beautiful
bags! :)




On Nov 8, 3:11 pm, Fai Mao  wrote:
>...
> screams "Steal me" Plus, I commute on a bicycle and would rather that my
> bike be cheaper than an automobile to maintain. Granted, I haven't driven a
> car since 1996 so the cost of auto-maintenance may have gone up.

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

2010-11-09 Thread newenglandbike


On Nov 9, 10:19 pm, benzzoy  wrote:
> The true cost of running a car is actually higher than what most
> people think.  The AAA estimates that overall, for an average driver
> in an average car doing the national annual average distance of 15,000
> miles, it's $9,641 per year.  That's that with the lower 2006 gasoline
> prices.
>
> Obviously, one can go higher or lower than that, but the amount is
> quite unlike what most will guess.
>
> Cite:http://tinyurl.com/37d5ev
>
> I don't believe even Rivendell charges that much for its beautiful
> bags! :)
>


Not to diverge from the original subject too much, but these costs
also don't factor in the price that every living thing on the planet
pays when people, collectively, drive cars.   That is, beyond the ~120
americans fatally injured by automobiles everyday, the millions of
cats/dogs/wild animals roadkilled every year, and so on.

Read this book:   http://www.carjacked.org/
and then tell everybody you know to read it, too.

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[RBW] Re: Betty

2010-11-09 Thread grrlyrida
Awww what a beautiful bike and set up.

What size is Betty and what's your wife's height? Does she like the
bike?

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[RBW] Re: hillborne review

2010-11-09 Thread Way Rebb
On Nov 7, 9:26 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> Dunno if everyone saw this but my significant other pointed it out to me:
>
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/born-for-hills-review-of-riven...
>
> Pretty seriously glowing review.

I really liked that review, and not just about the Hillborne either
Her description of the way she has been riding really struck home.
When I bought my bike I knew I'd ride to work and maybe around a
little but I had no idea I'd let the car sit un-started since June,
let my drivers license expire for several months, ride up and down the
CA coast, all over the Altamont hills, ride in the pouring rain and
the dead of night.   I think I am even getting lazy, I tend to ride
four blocks to the grocery store rather than walk.

A new bicycle has been the most useful thing I've bought in years.

-Ray

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[RBW] Any Tandems?

2010-11-09 Thread manueljohnacosta
I leave it to the wisdom of the group. My girlfriend and I just
recently test rode a tandem. We had a great time and found that riding
a tandem works for both of our different riding styles. Wondering if
any had any suggestions on tandem bikes we could take a look at?
Thanks
-Manny

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Re: [RBW] Any Tandems?

2010-11-09 Thread David Faller

Riv doesn't make a tandem, so it's probably not really "On Topic"...

On 11/9/2010 10:26 PM, manueljohnacosta wrote:

I leave it to the wisdom of the group. My girlfriend and I just
recently test rode a tandem. We had a great time and found that riding
a tandem works for both of our different riding styles. Wondering if
any had any suggestions on tandem bikes we could take a look at?
Thanks
-Manny



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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Well there ya go!
The "lawerly" aspect didn't even occur to me. The "Stumpjumper Effect"
may have.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Nov 9, 9:03 am, grant  wrote:
> Name changes
> It's a mix of bad decisions, good decisions, fear of lawyers, and not
> wanting to go the way of Specialized and REI, with Rockhopper and
> Allez being a steel bike with a unifork then, and a totally diff bike
> now; and the Randonneur being steel then and Whatever it is now.
> The people who own the rights to Middle Earth names did contact us,
> but it turns out they didn't have exactly an elephant's leg to stand
> on (more like a pirate's), and as  part of a no-money exchanged
> settlement, we agreed to retire certain names, with QB being one of
> them, and Baggins. Some of the others we can keep. And "Rivendell."
>
> When you change a bike some and don't change the name there's always
> the chance that somebody will wreck the original and want to replace
> it, and now they can't get the same name, even if it is essentially
> the same bike. In the SimpleOne's casethe plan was to come close
> to the QB, but minorly change it. It will likely be a ONE speed
> (depends on some things beyond our control right now), and so the ONE
> makes sense. It will have sidepulls. Now that we have sidepulls with
> dimensions that allow good clearances, it's time.
>
> So...that's 'bout it!
> G
>
> On Nov 9, 12:16 am, Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
> > I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> > my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> > changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> > The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> > design.
> > The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> > its name.
> > The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> > Redwood.
> > Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> > On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> > unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> > Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> > bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> > price points on similar bikes?
>
> > Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
> >  Philip
>
> >  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
I think it's more fun that A stands for A.

 Philip

On Nov 9, 2:39 pm, William  wrote:
> and I took the fun out of it by calling Riv.  Dave (who owns and
> A.H.H.) didn't know, so he asked Grant.  He came back to the phone to
> say it's just A.  It doesn't stand for anything.  Maybe like the 'J'
> in Michael 'J' Fox or the 'S' in Ulysses 'S' Grant.  Dave encouraged
> me to have my 'A' stand for whatever I want it to stand for.
>
> On Nov 9, 10:11 am, William  wrote:
>
> > Aloysius was my obvious first guess.  Second guess was Abercrombie.
> > Third guess was Augustus.  Fourth guess was Archibald.
>
> > On Nov 9, 9:04 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
>
> > > William  wondered:
>
> > > This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
> > > when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
> > > for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?
>
> > > ---
>
> > > Aloysius.
>
> > > --
> > > Jon "Truly Clueless" Grant, who wants to ride but should work, in
> > > Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm setting up a bike for my son, who's soon to be 10. Hopefully I can
get the short threadless stem this week, but the full project involves
replacing a 'city' suspension fork, possibly getting shorter cranks,
unsingleseedifying it. Ideally I'll be able to make it rideable and do
one upgrade at a time.
I have some weird rack ideas I may be able to pursue, if I can get
some non-bike projects squared away.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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