[RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[williwoods]

Thanks guys for the tips...

I am familiar with de-anoing parts but thought it would be a real
shame to remove the anodizing if someone really needs black but only
has silver.

I suppose I could buy silver and then sell too.. oh well was just
looking for the easy way.

Will

On Nov 16, 6:07 am, Garth  wrote:
> You can remove the black anodizing yourself. Some use lye based oven
> cleaner.  or just lye.

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[RBW] 3 hour old Nitto Technomic deluxe stem 12cm 25.4

[storm]

Hello, stopped by Rivendell today to buy a Nitto Technomic deluxe 12cm
25.4 for my wife. Got it home installed it and she did not like the
way her bars fit.

Anyone interested in buying it from me? I paid 60.09 around 2pm today.

I can work with Rivendell with a return but this was my fault. As they
say measure twice cut once.

Let me know if your interested.

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[geosat]

Add one or two from Erie, PA

On Nov 15, 7:48 am, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Boy, the list is GROWING  I hope to have the destination and date
> nailed down by the weekend... stay tuned.
>
> BB
>
> On Nov 15, 10:01 am, Ginz  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Please put this Philly-based rider on the the list as well!- Hide quoted 
> > text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[williwoods]

oh yes I am looking for 22.2 diameter. I had no idea that paul made
other diameter mounts. I am using them on Nitto/Rivendell bullmoose
bars.

On Nov 16, 10:22 am, William  wrote:
> Remember to specify size, just in case you get any takers.  22.2mm or
> 26.0mm.
>
> Otherwise, you can always sell and buy, or buy,stash,hoard, and sell
> later.
>
> On Nov 15, 3:51 pm, williwoods  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thats right folks.
>
> > In my quest to rid my bike of anything ano black...
>
> > let me know
>
> > Will
>
> > willh...@yahoo.com

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[RBW] Re: "Release the Hounds!"... Announcing Riv Rally East 2011

[Amit]

Excellent work BB - many thanks for putting this rally together!

My buddy and I will be coming from Detroit, perhaps via Canada.  If
anyone has an interest in car-pooling or caravanning from Indiana/
Michigan/Ohio/Ontario write back and we can make it happen!

The Riv group is entertaining, sometimes overwhelming, and a very
often a lot of fun. I've enjoyed reading the family's stories and
learning from (expensive!) lessons and experiences.  I'm excited to
meet you all in real-life!

Ami

On Nov 16, 9:30 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> WELL ALL RIGHT... The date and venue have been set!  Riv Rally East
> will take place the weekend of May 6-8, 2011 in Wellsboro, PA, home to
> the "Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania".
>
> Here's a link to Bill Yacovissi's website, with LOTS of information,
> including links to Wellsboro information -http://pinecreekbikerides.com/
>
> All are welcome; here's how it will go down (quite simply) We'll
> all converge on the town of Wellsboro. PA Friday night (or early
> Saturday AM), do some scenic and adventurous group rides together on
> Saturday and Sunday, enjoy good food, drink and great company, then
> spend the rest of the year talking about how great it was... You will
> need to arrange your own travel and lodging (but below is an extensive
> list of lodging options). I'm merely providing the idea, the meeting
> place and time... the rest is up to you.
>
> Here are a few details:
>
> Arrive Friday evening (May 6) in Wellsboro (staying at a hotel/inn/B&B/
> campground of your choice... information below).
>
> Saturday morning:  Grand Loop Ride (aka Wellsboro Loop) , departing at
> 9 AM from Wellsboro Green.  This will consist of a beautiful,
> (supposedly) easy ride through the Pine Creek Gorge.  The full loop
> will be 45 miles, and the pace will be slow to moderate.  There WILL
> be bailout options for shorter loops (25 and 33 miles, the latter of
> which will still include the most scenic parts of the canyon, but will
> cut off 12 miles... I will promise this. Anyone willing to ride the 45
> miles... I will ride it with you, no matter how long it takes... I've
> even got lights, you know...
>
> Saturday evening – We can attempt to dine together at the same
> establishment in town, or eat separately and then after dinner
> converge at a meeting spot (ie local tavern)… There will be plenty of
> options.
>
> Sunday morning – Pick-a-Loop Ride, departing at 9AM from Wellsboro
> Green.  Local ride expert Bill Yacovissi has recommended a variety of
> rides, including one very nice out-and-back route called the Colton
> Point Loops, which cover a variety of rolling terrain (mostly dirt
> roads), ranging from 35 to 45 miles (depending which loop option you
> choose).  The first and last 10 miles we all ride the same route.
> There may be other ride options as well.
>
> Sunday afternoon - Depart home after ride.
>
> Expectations / Disclaimer: I hope as many Riv riders as possible (and
> friends) will join these rides.  I will do my part to ensure everyone
> has the necessary information and support they need (and I trust we
> will all work together), but I make no claims of being a professional
> event planner, and expect people to manage their own plans.  Depending
> on the size of the group it might make sense to split into a few
> smaller groups on the rides.  We can decide this the democratic way.
>
> Admittedly I’ve never been to Wellsboro or to the Gorge, so I have to
> rely on the testimony and advice of others.  But I am very confident
> we will enjoy Wellsboro and the surrounding area.  Fortunately Bill
> Yacovissi has put together an awesome and very detailed website.  He
> has also (tentatively) agreed to join us for at least one of the rides
> and possibly dinner afterwards, to which we openly welcome him.
>
> Hotel /Inn/B&B Options:
>
> As Wellsboro is the largest town near the gorge, many of the hotels,
> inns and B&Bs are located here.  I am confident there are PLENTY of
> options to suit everyones’ individual tastes and budgets. Here is a
> link to a directory of options within Wellsboro and the surrounding
> area.http://www.wellsboroweb.com/wwdirectory/lodging.shtml
>
> I STRONGLY URGE you all to make your reservations early.  I understand
> (from Bill Y) that demand for hotel space has risen due to increased
> natural gas exploration in the area, and hotel rooms may become
> increasingly hard to find as we get closer to May.
>
> Here are 2 that I briefly researched and picked out:
>
> The Penn Wells Hotel and Lodge has many rooms available at the moment
> (between the hotel and the lodge, both located close to each other
> near the center of Wellsboro).  Rates for 2011 are not yet available,
> but will be approx $95 per room; I will request a group discount, and
> let you know if I'm successful.  Singles with a queen bed and Doubles
> with 2 double beds are available.  Check out their site 
> athttp://pennwells.com/
> (Note:  Bikes may be brought into the doubles

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Allan in Portland]

Your M-bar setup is about what I have now. I don't have any pictures,
but what I'm currently running with is a North Face backpack-topper/
fanny-pack 2 in 1 hanging from my bars. The straps that would be used
to hold it when topping a backpack I've wrapped around the brake
grips, and the waist strap for when it is fanny pack mode I have
around the riser loop at the back of the Nitto M12.

The only problem is it can't hold my lunch and my rain gear at the
same time. I'm also not sure how it would handle a good rain. Hence
I'm considering a saddlebag of some sort.

-Allan

On Nov 16, 9:37 pm, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> Yep: I've been running a Carradice Cadet on the front with moustache
> bars and WTB Dirt Drops for a while. Works genius.
> M-bars:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3605578537
> D-drops:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/4084047875
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
>
> On Nov 16, 1:23 pm, Allan in Portland  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > Any folks that have given it a try? What did you think of it? What was
> > your set-up (bag, handlbars, levers, rack, etc.)?
>
> > I've been thinking of going this route with a pair of mustache bars,
> > but am not sure they'll have enough forward sweep in the right spot.
>
> > Thanks,
> > -Allan

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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Philip Williamson]

Yep: I've been running a Carradice Cadet on the front with moustache
bars and WTB Dirt Drops for a while. Works genius.
M-bars: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3605578537
D-drops: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/4084047875

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Nov 16, 1:23 pm, Allan in Portland  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any folks that have given it a try? What did you think of it? What was
> your set-up (bag, handlbars, levers, rack, etc.)?
>
> I've been thinking of going this route with a pair of mustache bars,
> but am not sure they'll have enough forward sweep in the right spot.
>
> Thanks,
> -Allan

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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Allan in Portland]

Wow, Patrick. That is awesome.

-Allan

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[RBW] FS: Sackville SaddleSack-Medium

[Jim M.]

This is an olive sack, as seen here:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-saddlesack-medium/20-132

or here on my Quickbeam: http://tinyurl.com/3y9k8g4

Please note that in the QB picture, the Bagman support had come loose
and the bag is hanging lower than it normally sits. My QB is a 60cm.

This sack is too big for my purposes. They are $175 new. Mine is near
new and you can have it for $135 shipped.

Thanks for looking,
jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[Michael_S]

I plan on making regular trips there too... and Station Tavernand
all the Brewpubs.
Not sure how much time I'll have to ride.

~Mike~

On Nov 16, 3:43 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> So Esteban, how much time do you spend at the Blind Lady anyway?
> Didn't make it there on last ride with you; more field research
> required.
>
> dougP
>
> On Nov 16, 11:11 am, William  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Tsunamis
>
> > On Nov 16, 9:02 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Killer bees...
>
> > > On Nov 16, 7:23 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > > oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high housing prices, fog,
> > > > earthquakes, etc...;-}
>
> > > > ~Mike~
>
> > > > On Nov 16, 7:19 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > > > very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
> > > > > and Sky.
>
> > > > > This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
> > > > > a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
> > > > > routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
> > > > > bike lanes and people actually using them.
>
> > > > > ~Mike~
>
> > > > > On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
>
> > > > > > You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> > > > > > Esteban
> > > > > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same 
> > > > > > > > Esteban on
> > > > > > > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > > > > > > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
>
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[AJ]

Cool, 5 boro ride on the 1st, and a ride with 'friends' the following
week; May is going to be one heck of a month!  Thanks a million BB for
your great idea.
Cheers,AJ

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[AJ]

You may want to check how your shifter is installed; the little washer
may be 90 degrees off.AJ

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[Weird Harold]

I'm in NYC and am in.


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Re: [RBW] "Release the Hounds!"... Announcing Riv Rally East 2011

[robert zeidler]

I took a look at the trail map also.  65 easy miles down to Jersey Shore, PA
.  Might make for an alt ride too.  just sayin'

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:

> WELL ALL RIGHT... The date and venue have been set!  Riv Rally East
> will take place the weekend of May 6-8, 2011 in Wellsboro, PA, home to
> the "Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania".
>
> Here's a link to Bill Yacovissi's website, with LOTS of information,
> including links to Wellsboro information - http://pinecreekbikerides.com/
>
> All are welcome; here's how it will go down (quite simply) We'll
> all converge on the town of Wellsboro. PA Friday night (or early
> Saturday AM), do some scenic and adventurous group rides together on
> Saturday and Sunday, enjoy good food, drink and great company, then
> spend the rest of the year talking about how great it was... You will
> need to arrange your own travel and lodging (but below is an extensive
> list of lodging options). I'm merely providing the idea, the meeting
> place and time... the rest is up to you.
>
> Here are a few details:
>
> Arrive Friday evening (May 6) in Wellsboro (staying at a hotel/inn/B&B/
> campground of your choice... information below).
>
> Saturday morning:  Grand Loop Ride (aka Wellsboro Loop) , departing at
> 9 AM from Wellsboro Green.  This will consist of a beautiful,
> (supposedly) easy ride through the Pine Creek Gorge.  The full loop
> will be 45 miles, and the pace will be slow to moderate.  There WILL
> be bailout options for shorter loops (25 and 33 miles, the latter of
> which will still include the most scenic parts of the canyon, but will
> cut off 12 miles... I will promise this. Anyone willing to ride the 45
> miles... I will ride it with you, no matter how long it takes... I've
> even got lights, you know...
>
> Saturday evening – We can attempt to dine together at the same
> establishment in town, or eat separately and then after dinner
> converge at a meeting spot (ie local tavern)… There will be plenty of
> options.
>
> Sunday morning – Pick-a-Loop Ride, departing at 9AM from Wellsboro
> Green.  Local ride expert Bill Yacovissi has recommended a variety of
> rides, including one very nice out-and-back route called the Colton
> Point Loops, which cover a variety of rolling terrain (mostly dirt
> roads), ranging from 35 to 45 miles (depending which loop option you
> choose).  The first and last 10 miles we all ride the same route.
> There may be other ride options as well.
>
> Sunday afternoon - Depart home after ride.
>
> Expectations / Disclaimer: I hope as many Riv riders as possible (and
> friends) will join these rides.  I will do my part to ensure everyone
> has the necessary information and support they need (and I trust we
> will all work together), but I make no claims of being a professional
> event planner, and expect people to manage their own plans.  Depending
> on the size of the group it might make sense to split into a few
> smaller groups on the rides.  We can decide this the democratic way.
>
> Admittedly I’ve never been to Wellsboro or to the Gorge, so I have to
> rely on the testimony and advice of others.  But I am very confident
> we will enjoy Wellsboro and the surrounding area.  Fortunately Bill
> Yacovissi has put together an awesome and very detailed website.  He
> has also (tentatively) agreed to join us for at least one of the rides
> and possibly dinner afterwards, to which we openly welcome him.
>
> Hotel /Inn/B&B Options:
>
> As Wellsboro is the largest town near the gorge, many of the hotels,
> inns and B&Bs are located here.  I am confident there are PLENTY of
> options to suit everyones’ individual tastes and budgets. Here is a
> link to a directory of options within Wellsboro and the surrounding
> area. http://www.wellsboroweb.com/wwdirectory/lodging.shtml
>
> I STRONGLY URGE you all to make your reservations early.  I understand
> (from Bill Y) that demand for hotel space has risen due to increased
> natural gas exploration in the area, and hotel rooms may become
> increasingly hard to find as we get closer to May.
>
> Here are 2 that I briefly researched and picked out:
>
> The Penn Wells Hotel and Lodge has many rooms available at the moment
> (between the hotel and the lodge, both located close to each other
> near the center of Wellsboro).  Rates for 2011 are not yet available,
> but will be approx $95 per room; I will request a group discount, and
> let you know if I'm successful.  Singles with a queen bed and Doubles
> with 2 double beds are available.  Check out their site at
> http://pennwells.com/
> (Note:  Bikes may be brought into the doubles, but not the singles).
>
> This strikes me as more like your typical chain hotel, and it appears
> to offer more services than the motels.
>
> The Sherwood Motel (also located in town) has good reviews.  (I got a
> pretty good vibe from the owner, Marsha when she phoned me.)  Check
> them out at: www.sherwoodmotel.org
> All rooms are smoke-free, no p

[RBW] "Release the Hounds!"... Announcing Riv Rally East 2011

[Montclair BobbyB]

WELL ALL RIGHT... The date and venue have been set!  Riv Rally East
will take place the weekend of May 6-8, 2011 in Wellsboro, PA, home to
the "Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania".

Here's a link to Bill Yacovissi's website, with LOTS of information,
including links to Wellsboro information - http://pinecreekbikerides.com/

All are welcome; here's how it will go down (quite simply) We'll
all converge on the town of Wellsboro. PA Friday night (or early
Saturday AM), do some scenic and adventurous group rides together on
Saturday and Sunday, enjoy good food, drink and great company, then
spend the rest of the year talking about how great it was... You will
need to arrange your own travel and lodging (but below is an extensive
list of lodging options). I'm merely providing the idea, the meeting
place and time... the rest is up to you.

Here are a few details:

Arrive Friday evening (May 6) in Wellsboro (staying at a hotel/inn/B&B/
campground of your choice... information below).

Saturday morning:  Grand Loop Ride (aka Wellsboro Loop) , departing at
9 AM from Wellsboro Green.  This will consist of a beautiful,
(supposedly) easy ride through the Pine Creek Gorge.  The full loop
will be 45 miles, and the pace will be slow to moderate.  There WILL
be bailout options for shorter loops (25 and 33 miles, the latter of
which will still include the most scenic parts of the canyon, but will
cut off 12 miles... I will promise this. Anyone willing to ride the 45
miles... I will ride it with you, no matter how long it takes... I've
even got lights, you know...

Saturday evening – We can attempt to dine together at the same
establishment in town, or eat separately and then after dinner
converge at a meeting spot (ie local tavern)… There will be plenty of
options.

Sunday morning – Pick-a-Loop Ride, departing at 9AM from Wellsboro
Green.  Local ride expert Bill Yacovissi has recommended a variety of
rides, including one very nice out-and-back route called the Colton
Point Loops, which cover a variety of rolling terrain (mostly dirt
roads), ranging from 35 to 45 miles (depending which loop option you
choose).  The first and last 10 miles we all ride the same route.
There may be other ride options as well.

Sunday afternoon - Depart home after ride.

Expectations / Disclaimer: I hope as many Riv riders as possible (and
friends) will join these rides.  I will do my part to ensure everyone
has the necessary information and support they need (and I trust we
will all work together), but I make no claims of being a professional
event planner, and expect people to manage their own plans.  Depending
on the size of the group it might make sense to split into a few
smaller groups on the rides.  We can decide this the democratic way.

Admittedly I’ve never been to Wellsboro or to the Gorge, so I have to
rely on the testimony and advice of others.  But I am very confident
we will enjoy Wellsboro and the surrounding area.  Fortunately Bill
Yacovissi has put together an awesome and very detailed website.  He
has also (tentatively) agreed to join us for at least one of the rides
and possibly dinner afterwards, to which we openly welcome him.

Hotel /Inn/B&B Options:

As Wellsboro is the largest town near the gorge, many of the hotels,
inns and B&Bs are located here.  I am confident there are PLENTY of
options to suit everyones’ individual tastes and budgets. Here is a
link to a directory of options within Wellsboro and the surrounding
area. http://www.wellsboroweb.com/wwdirectory/lodging.shtml

I STRONGLY URGE you all to make your reservations early.  I understand
(from Bill Y) that demand for hotel space has risen due to increased
natural gas exploration in the area, and hotel rooms may become
increasingly hard to find as we get closer to May.

Here are 2 that I briefly researched and picked out:

The Penn Wells Hotel and Lodge has many rooms available at the moment
(between the hotel and the lodge, both located close to each other
near the center of Wellsboro).  Rates for 2011 are not yet available,
but will be approx $95 per room; I will request a group discount, and
let you know if I'm successful.  Singles with a queen bed and Doubles
with 2 double beds are available.  Check out their site at http://pennwells.com/
(Note:  Bikes may be brought into the doubles, but not the singles).

This strikes me as more like your typical chain hotel, and it appears
to offer more services than the motels.

The Sherwood Motel (also located in town) has good reviews.  (I got a
pretty good vibe from the owner, Marsha when she phoned me.)  Check
them out at: www.sherwoodmotel.org
All rooms are smoke-free, no pets allowed.  Bicycles are NOT allowed
in the rooms, and Marsha (the motel owner) was kind enough to call me
to discuss how they might accommodate a large group of bicycles…  The
hotel does have some limited storage in their basement, but Marsha
assured me if the weather is OK, bicycles are perfectly safe left on a
car rack.  (I personally will plan 

Re: [RBW] Saddle bag/sack in front?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I've got a very nice, very old Rivendell Acme bag as the bar bag on my commuter.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Allan in Portland
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any folks that have given it a try? What did you think of it? What was
> your set-up (bag, handlbars, levers, rack, etc.)?
>
> I've been thinking of going this route with a pair of mustache bars,
> but am not sure they'll have enough forward sweep in the right spot.
>
> Thanks,
> -Allan
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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[doug peterson]

Racks, baskets, panniers, saddlebags, handlebar bags.it's all good
stuff & I think Riv says something about making a bike 2X as useful.
I'd up the ante on that idea to like 10X as useful.  It's amazing what
can be done with a cheap rack, a generic stuff sack & bungee cords.
Put some thought into it, get some good stuff and the possibilities
are endless.

dougP

On Nov 16, 4:36 pm, William  wrote:
> Alright, I just put the Soma Express roadie tires on the Bombadil.
> I'll try it!
>
> On Nov 16, 4:34 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So do I... THAT'S a NICE setup indeed!!!
> > BB
>
> > On Nov 16, 7:14 pm, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 16, 4:44 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > > I've given serious thought to trying my Saddlesack Large in the
> > > > front.  
>
> > > my buddy runs his up front on his "porteur." pics here -
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/sets/72157624531049100/with/50...
>
> > > he really digs it.  I'd do the same because I can't imagine having a
> > > load that size in the rear unless it was in panniers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] FS: Berthoud Saddlebag (banana bag); Berthoud Saddlebag Small

[Clayton Scott]

Hi All,

I have two Berthoud Saddlebags for sale. Both are Black. Both in used but
very good condition.

The first one is like this one:
http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/handlebar-bags/gb288-small-saddlebag
$45 shipped.


The other one is the "banana bag" model. Looks like this:
http://www.renehersestore.com/catalog/IMG_1362.JPG (but with the toestrap
instead of clickfix)
Note, this is the "old" version that attaches with a toestratp not the
clickfix version now available. It is the buckle version.
$75 shipped

Thanks,
Clayton

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[JB]

It's sounding better and better.  Thanks for putting it together.

John

On Nov 16, 7:04 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Robert:
>
> Unlikely to be any racing on this ride... Like I said, anyone who
> wants to race, go ahead... We'll just give em bad directions and let
> em go
> Checking on the Finger Lakes... indeed a gorgeous regions... but may
> have to save that for the 2012 Riv Rally!!!  :)
> Hope you can make it.
>
> Peace,
> BB
>
> On Nov 16, 5:22 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Almost forgot.  Please consider the Finger lakes region in NY if it doesn't
> > put things outta reach of most folks.  Nice area.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM,  wrote:
> > >  My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this
> > > past summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the
> > > outdoors would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and
> > > the wildlife is abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  
> > > We
> > > saw two pairs of bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was
> > > great!  One thing to bear in mind is that riding the trail is not at all
> > > challenging.  The grade is roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very 
> > > well
> > > maintained.  There is a very firm base covered with just about the right
> > > amount of cinder / fine gravel for bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600
> > > Cannondale shod with 27 x 1-3/8 Paselas and had nary a problem.
>
> > > I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and 
> > > I
> > > can attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live 
> > > outside
> > > of Philly and spent many hours riding motorcycles up there.
> > > Oh, and if I can pull it off, I plan on joining as well.
>
> > > Stan Wasser
> > > Columbia, SC
>
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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[William]

Alright, I just put the Soma Express roadie tires on the Bombadil.
I'll try it!

On Nov 16, 4:34 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> So do I... THAT'S a NICE setup indeed!!!
> BB
>
> On Nov 16, 7:14 pm, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 4:44 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > I've given serious thought to trying my Saddlesack Large in the
> > > front.  
>
> > my buddy runs his up front on his "porteur." pics here -
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/sets/72157624531049100/with/50...
>
> > he really digs it.  I'd do the same because I can't imagine having a
> > load that size in the rear unless it was in panniers.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Montclair BobbyB]

So do I... THAT'S a NICE setup indeed!!!
BB

On Nov 16, 7:14 pm, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Nov 16, 4:44 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > I've given serious thought to trying my Saddlesack Large in the
> > front.  
>
> my buddy runs his up front on his "porteur." pics here -
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/sets/72157624531049100/with/50...
>
> he really digs it.  I'd do the same because I can't imagine having a
> load that size in the rear unless it was in panniers.

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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 16, 4:44 pm, William  wrote:
> I've given serious thought to trying my Saddlesack Large in the
> front.  

my buddy runs his up front on his "porteur." pics here -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/sets/72157624531049100/with/5093713677/

he really digs it.  I'd do the same because I can't imagine having a
load that size in the rear unless it was in panniers.

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[Montclair BobbyB]

Robert:

Unlikely to be any racing on this ride... Like I said, anyone who
wants to race, go ahead... We'll just give em bad directions and let
em go
Checking on the Finger Lakes... indeed a gorgeous regions... but may
have to save that for the 2012 Riv Rally!!!  :)
Hope you can make it.

Peace,
BB

On Nov 16, 5:22 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Almost forgot.  Please consider the Finger lakes region in NY if it doesn't
> put things outta reach of most folks.  Nice area.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM,  wrote:
> >  My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this
> > past summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the
> > outdoors would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and
> > the wildlife is abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  We
> > saw two pairs of bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was
> > great!  One thing to bear in mind is that riding the trail is not at all
> > challenging.  The grade is roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very well
> > maintained.  There is a very firm base covered with just about the right
> > amount of cinder / fine gravel for bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600
> > Cannondale shod with 27 x 1-3/8 Paselas and had nary a problem.
>
> > I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and I
> > can attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live outside
> > of Philly and spent many hours riding motorcycles up there.
> > Oh, and if I can pull it off, I plan on joining as well.
>
> > Stan Wasser
> > Columbia, SC
>
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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Montclair BobbyB]

I keep my saddle bag on the saddle (where it works very well).

For the front I have a Nitto Mini/Platrack combination rack with a
Wald 139 (18x13x6 in) basket.
What I love most about this basket is I the fact that I can just
"toss" stuff in there on a whim...virtually anything... from a small/
medium duffel bag to a hat, gloves, bag of bagels, etc... It's so
convenient.   Plus there's that devilish inner voice inside of me that
chuckles every time someone looks at my bike with genuine indifference
(or mild disdain)... for they probably will never know the pure joy
and fulfillment of such simple utility... "HA HA! Go ahead", I say
"Just TRY to carry a dozen bagels in that lycra jersey... That will
require four bagels in each pocket, by my count... I DON'T think
you've got the stones to attempt it, DO YOU, Racer Boy???"...

Peace,
BB


On Nov 16, 6:29 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> I've used Rivendell's original Hobo bag on the front of my Atlantis
> with drop bars.  I added a Nitto mini front rack to support it as I
> tend to overload things.  It didn't have enough volume and the straps
> on the bars kinda got in my way so I now have an Acorn Boxy Rando on
> the Nitto.
>
> The chatter about front load vs rear load, and how geometry comes into
> play is highly personal and depends I think more on your riding
> style.  Personally, my Atlantis handles better with more weight on the
> front.  This is completely opposite the conventional wisdom about Rivs
> being rear loaders.  There are plenty of photos on the Riv website as
> well as Cyclofiend's gallery of Rivs with humungous saddlebags, front
> baskets, panniers, etc.  You really have to play around with your
> personal loads (commuting, utility, camping, touring, etc.) to see
> what works for you.
>
> dougP
>
> On Nov 16, 2:26 pm, "mr.trout"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > i have a carradice nelson long flap in front with drops. i use toe
> > straps instead of the ones that came with it for fine tuning. i ripped
> > the side pockets off and plan on putting them on the back of the bag,
> > or the part that's facing me.
> > main advantage is that there is a lot of room and the bag was pretty
> > cheap. i think it has something like 18 liters capacity. i can fit a
> > road morph-g along the wooden brace and load it up as full as i would
> > want to for a front bag.
> > i had cross-tops on it at one time, worked fine. i also have a stella
> > 150n mounted on the bars. used it with both noodles and now with deda
> > 215 shallows. i do use a front rack though.
> > only disadvantage is that the bag doesn't open towards you when on the
> > bike.

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[doug peterson]

So Esteban, how much time do you spend at the Blind Lady anyway?
Didn't make it there on last ride with you; more field research
required.

dougP

On Nov 16, 11:11 am, William  wrote:
> Tsunamis
>
> On Nov 16, 9:02 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Killer bees...
>
> > On Nov 16, 7:23 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high housing prices, fog,
> > > earthquakes, etc...;-}
>
> > > ~Mike~
>
> > > On Nov 16, 7:19 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > > very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
> > > > and Sky.
>
> > > > This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
> > > > a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
> > > > routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
> > > > bike lanes and people actually using them.
>
> > > > ~Mike~
>
> > > > On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
>
> > > > > You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> > > > > Esteban
> > > > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > > > On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban 
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > > > > > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
>
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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[doug peterson]

I've used Rivendell's original Hobo bag on the front of my Atlantis
with drop bars.  I added a Nitto mini front rack to support it as I
tend to overload things.  It didn't have enough volume and the straps
on the bars kinda got in my way so I now have an Acorn Boxy Rando on
the Nitto.

The chatter about front load vs rear load, and how geometry comes into
play is highly personal and depends I think more on your riding
style.  Personally, my Atlantis handles better with more weight on the
front.  This is completely opposite the conventional wisdom about Rivs
being rear loaders.  There are plenty of photos on the Riv website as
well as Cyclofiend's gallery of Rivs with humungous saddlebags, front
baskets, panniers, etc.  You really have to play around with your
personal loads (commuting, utility, camping, touring, etc.) to see
what works for you.

dougP

On Nov 16, 2:26 pm, "mr.trout"  wrote:
> i have a carradice nelson long flap in front with drops. i use toe
> straps instead of the ones that came with it for fine tuning. i ripped
> the side pockets off and plan on putting them on the back of the bag,
> or the part that's facing me.
> main advantage is that there is a lot of room and the bag was pretty
> cheap. i think it has something like 18 liters capacity. i can fit a
> road morph-g along the wooden brace and load it up as full as i would
> want to for a front bag.
> i had cross-tops on it at one time, worked fine. i also have a stella
> 150n mounted on the bars. used it with both noodles and now with deda
> 215 shallows. i do use a front rack though.
> only disadvantage is that the bag doesn't open towards you when on the
> bike.

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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[mr.trout]

i have a carradice nelson long flap in front with drops. i use toe
straps instead of the ones that came with it for fine tuning. i ripped
the side pockets off and plan on putting them on the back of the bag,
or the part that's facing me.
main advantage is that there is a lot of room and the bag was pretty
cheap. i think it has something like 18 liters capacity. i can fit a
road morph-g along the wooden brace and load it up as full as i would
want to for a front bag.
i had cross-tops on it at one time, worked fine. i also have a stella
150n mounted on the bars. used it with both noodles and now with deda
215 shallows. i do use a front rack though.
only disadvantage is that the bag doesn't open towards you when on the
bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[robert zeidler]

Just ride a 68cm frame![?]

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kelly  wrote:

> I was looking at a large  bag  and they had a loop or medal thing that
> just hooked on the frame.  Was rubberized so it wasn't supposed to
> scratch anything. (sorry left to see something) I found it on the RBW
> site .. they call it a silver hupe.   I've been meaning to ask about
> this thing anyway.. but looks like a good solution to me.
>
> Kelly
>
> On Nov 16, 8:39 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> > I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my
> > Sam H and I love it.
> > I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment
> > is only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every
> > time, either.
> > Just my 2c.
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> > On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
> >
> > > For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> > > SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> > > lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
> >
> > > Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> > > the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> > > rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
> >
> > > So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> > > "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> > > aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> > > use one.
> >
> > > Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> > > Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> > > underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
> >
> > > Many thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > > David- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[robert zeidler]

Almost forgot.  Please consider the Finger lakes region in NY if it doesn't
put things outta reach of most folks.  Nice area.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM,  wrote:

>  My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this
> past summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the
> outdoors would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and
> the wildlife is abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  We
> saw two pairs of bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was
> great!  One thing to bear in mind is that riding the trail is not at all
> challenging.  The grade is roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very well
> maintained.  There is a very firm base covered with just about the right
> amount of cinder / fine gravel for bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600
> Cannondale shod with 27 x 1-3/8 Paselas and had nary a problem.
>
> I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and I
> can attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live outside
> of Philly and spent many hours riding motorcycles up there.
> Oh, and if I can pull it off, I plan on joining as well.
>
> Stan Wasser
> Columbia, SC
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Re: [RBW] NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[robert zeidler]

+1  Live in NW CT, would love to try to make it. It would be nice to have a
meeting of the tribe, and just ride w/o the thing turning into a race.  If
you want to go fast you can, if not you don't.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM,  wrote:

>  My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this
> past summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the
> outdoors would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and
> the wildlife is abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  We
> saw two pairs of bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was
> great!  One thing to bear in mind is that riding the trail is not at all
> challenging.  The grade is roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very well
> maintained.  There is a very firm base covered with just about the right
> amount of cinder / fine gravel for bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600
> Cannondale shod with 27 x 1-3/8 Paselas and had nary a problem.
>
> I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and I
> can attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live outside
> of Philly and spent many hours riding motorcycles up there.
> Oh, and if I can pull it off, I plan on joining as well.
>
> Stan Wasser
> Columbia, SC
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[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

[William]

I've given serious thought to trying my Saddlesack Large in the
front.  My thought was to simply set it on top of my Nitto Mini/
Platrack assembly.  To get an attach point for the leather straps that
want to go through the saddle loops I was thinking about this piece:

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9587

I chatted with m...@riv HQ about the idea and he pulled out that same
nitto lamp holder piece and said he'd seen it done.  For my Bombadil I
might even choose to run an R-14 rear rack up front which has the
right size loop for the slot in the Saddlesack Large.

Then I started having such good luck just strapping stuff to the
platrack up front that I didn't pursue the concept.  It's still
something I'd like to have in my repertoire of configuration options.
My biggest concern is the dreaded trail factor.  Velo Orange says that
low trail is better for front loads, and Rivs are kind of high medium
trail.  It still would be worth a try, provided you are only out labor
if it doesn't work out.  If you spend $400 on racks and bags, hate it
and want to get rid of everything, that would be a bummer.

On Nov 16, 1:23 pm, Allan in Portland  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any folks that have given it a try? What did you think of it? What was
> your set-up (bag, handlbars, levers, rack, etc.)?
>
> I've been thinking of going this route with a pair of mustache bars,
> but am not sure they'll have enough forward sweep in the right spot.
>
> Thanks,
> -Allan

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[RBW] Saddle bag/sack in front?

[Allan in Portland]

Hello,

Any folks that have given it a try? What did you think of it? What was
your set-up (bag, handlbars, levers, rack, etc.)?

I've been thinking of going this route with a pair of mustache bars,
but am not sure they'll have enough forward sweep in the right spot.

Thanks,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Peter Pesce]

Search for "silver hupe" here and then go get a coffee while all the
results load!

On Nov 16, 9:59 am, Kelly  wrote:
> I was looking at a large  bag  and they had a loop or medal thing that
> just hooked on the frame.  Was rubberized so it wasn't supposed to
> scratch anything. (sorry left to see something) I found it on the RBW
> site .. they call it a silver hupe.   I've been meaning to ask about
> this thing anyway.. but looks like a good solution to me.
>
> Kelly
>
> On Nov 16, 8:39 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> > I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my
> > Sam H and I love it.
> > I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment
> > is only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every
> > time, either.
> > Just my 2c.
>
> > -Pete
>
> > On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
>
> > > Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> > > For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> > > SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> > > lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> > > Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> > > the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> > > rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> > > So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> > > "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> > > aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> > > use one.
>
> > > Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> > > Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> > > underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> > > Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> > > David- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Steve Palincsar]

On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 12:45 -0800, Michael_S wrote:
> I thought there was something unique about Dura Ace shifters
> compatibility too.
> 

8-speed days only.



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Re: [RBW] Re: For those who like to finance 650B speculative projects....

[John Speare]

This project was quietly cancelled last week. See bullet item buried in this
blog post:
http://rawlandcycles.blogspot.com/2010/11/suspended-animation-not.html

*The Mini Moto project is on the backburner for the time being. There is
still a lot of work required to design and then produce this tire. We simply
do not have the time to carry this tire out. I will email those who had
pre-ordered a set(s) with further details.  *


I also pre-ordered a pair -- it's a bit distressing to see the Mini-moto
option still on the "products" page given the blog post.

I'm hoping to hear from Sean soon regarding the pre-order I put in a couple
weeks ago.

In the meantime, if you were thinking of throwing in on this pre-order, you
might want to hold off.




On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:31 PM, William  wrote:

> I went ahead and ordered a pair.  Dirt road tires and mud tires for
> the Bombadil (which packs up a bit with my Quasi motos in the mud).
> Maybe, just maybe, they'll fit through the Silvers on my Hilsen, which
> would be sick (as the kids say).
>
> On Nov 6, 6:19 pm, William  wrote:
> > Yeah I emailed Kirk to see if I could order them from him, but he said
> > the Rawlands thing gets him a single customer interface to get it
> > going.  I imagine the Pari-moto presale was a logistical challenge for
> > him.  It's actually being called a 43, not a 42.  It will be really
> > close on the Hilsen.
> >
> > On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> >
> > > As I recall, Sean the owner of Rawland needs to pre-sell 150 tires to
> > > make this work... so you 650B bike owners, nows your chance to help
> > > bring to market a new product that would benefit all 650B owners.
> > >  I've pre-ordered one of the new low trail, lighter tubing, rSogns so
> > > I'll definitely be looking for such a tire.  I've thought about a 58cm
> > > 650B Hilsen for a while, but this gets my toe wet before I fall into
> > > the pool.
> > > It will certainly be built in the Rivendell style Nitto,Sugino,
> > > friction shifting etc.
> >
> > > ~Mike~
> >
> > > On Nov 5, 2:40 pm, William  wrote:
> >
> > > > Looks like there is another Pacenti 650B tire on PRE-SALE.  It's
> > > > called the mini-moto, claims to be a 650x42B, and is being pre-sold
> > > > exclusively through Rawland.  I have no clue if it will clear my
> > > > Hilsen or Gomez, but at least I know it would work on the Bombadil.
> > > > It claims to have a traditional block tread pattern, and it's being
> > > > called a cyclocross tire, which might be just what some of you mixed-
> > > > terrainers might like.
> >
> > > >
> http://www.rawlandcycles.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail...
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RE: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Frederick, Steve]

If the bike the derailer is installed on has horizontal dropouts, you might 
find moving the wheel toward the front of the dropouts helps.  Did for me, 
anyway...

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end
shifters


kinda amazing it doesn't work with all Shimano parts and specifically
designated as 9 speed.
As Jim pointed out something is not set up right if it doesn't work. I
would try different shifters as my next choice of fixing the issue.
I thought there was something unique about Dura Ace shifters
compatibility too.

I'm running all sorts of Suntour/Campy/shimaNo combinations and they
all work fairly decent.

~Mike~

On Nov 16, 11:25 am, kuma  wrote:
> On Nov 16, 8:11 am, Juhani  wrote:
>
> > The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> > the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> > shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>
> Can you elaborate on what "shifted fine" and "wouldn't shift fine"
> mean?  Can you not get the chain to even go on the cog?  Or is there
> just a tiny bit of rubbing?  A lot of rubbing?

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Michael_S]

kinda amazing it doesn't work with all Shimano parts and specifically
designated as 9 speed.
As Jim pointed out something is not set up right if it doesn't work. I
would try different shifters as my next choice of fixing the issue.
I thought there was something unique about Dura Ace shifters
compatibility too.

I'm running all sorts of Suntour/Campy/shimaNo combinations and they
all work fairly decent.

~Mike~

On Nov 16, 11:25 am, kuma  wrote:
> On Nov 16, 8:11 am, Juhani  wrote:
>
> > The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> > the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> > shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>
> Can you elaborate on what "shifted fine" and "wouldn't shift fine"
> mean?  Can you not get the chain to even go on the cog?  Or is there
> just a tiny bit of rubbing?  A lot of rubbing?

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[RBW] Re: FS Velo Orange Randonneur Frame NEW IN BOX 59cm $550

[Andrew]

Frame and fork to clarify

On Nov 16, 12:19 pm, Andrew  wrote:
> Trying to get rid of all my projects, I have way too many. This is a
> brand new Randonneur Velo Orange from in 59cm. It is new in box. $550
> plus shipping. Please check out some pics of the frame at:
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/frames/rando/rando.html
>
> Here is the geometry:
>
> http://support.velo-orange.com/#rando.html
>
> Here are some nice pics of some builds:
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_C1XrRVl3W8k/TJI6Fdyf7iI/Kr4/CgQBNl7...
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_C1XrRVl3W8k/TMcdFBOQ81I/K3U/txLa0wL...

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[RBW] FS Velo Orange Randonneur Frame NEW IN BOX 59cm $550

[Andrew]

Trying to get rid of all my projects, I have way too many. This is a
brand new Randonneur Velo Orange from in 59cm. It is new in box. $550
plus shipping. Please check out some pics of the frame at:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/frames/rando/rando.html

Here is the geometry:

http://support.velo-orange.com/#rando.html

Here are some nice pics of some builds:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_C1XrRVl3W8k/TJI6Fdyf7iI/Kr4/CgQBNl7Jd6w/s1600/box+dog+1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_C1XrRVl3W8k/TMcdFBOQ81I/K3U/txLa0wLvG5Q/s1600/Rando+w+porteur+rack.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[kuma]

On Nov 16, 8:11 am, Juhani  wrote:
> The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>

Can you elaborate on what "shifted fine" and "wouldn't shift fine"
mean?  Can you not get the chain to even go on the cog?  Or is there
just a tiny bit of rubbing?  A lot of rubbing?

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[RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Kelly]

I was looking at a large  bag  and they had a loop or medal thing that
just hooked on the frame.  Was rubberized so it wasn't supposed to
scratch anything. (sorry left to see something) I found it on the RBW
site .. they call it a silver hupe.   I've been meaning to ask about
this thing anyway.. but looks like a good solution to me.

Kelly

On Nov 16, 8:39 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my
> Sam H and I love it.
> I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment
> is only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every
> time, either.
> Just my 2c.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> > For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> > SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> > lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> > Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> > the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> > rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> > So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> > "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> > aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> > use one.
>
> > Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> > Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> > underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> > Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> > David- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

[William]

OK, here's a real brain-tweaker.  A retro-direct bike cannot be rolled
backwards under any circumstance.  You have to pick up the rear wheel
to back up the bike.  Wrap your head around that.

On Nov 12, 4:15 pm, erik jensen  wrote:
> i finally understand.
>
> e
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, William  wrote:
> > Either you're missing something or I'm missing what you are saying.
> > The key for retro direct is that there have to be two independent
> > freewheel mechanisms because when one is driving the wheel, the other
> > one is freewheeling backwards.  You can't just use two cogs on one
> > cassette, because that cassette body cannot simultaneously be rotating
> > forward and backward.
>
> > On Nov 12, 3:33 pm, erik jensen  wrote:
> > > for the cheapest route, why not match chain differences between the two
> > > front chainrings across a typical cassette? then you wouldn't need to do
> > > much other than wrap the chain and maybe replace the unused cogs with
> > > spacers.
>
> > > ie. 46x34 front matched to 16x28 rear
>
> > > maybe i'm missing something, but that seems like it'd work.
>
> > > ~erik
>
> > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Z I  wrote:
> > > > I saw these being used in one of the youtube videos on this. This is a
> > > > good resource.. $75 seems pretty steep though. Unless you compare it
> > > > the two-cog White Industries freewheel Riv sells! I guess that's what
> > > > an "An eccentric bike nerd building a retro-direct bike" has to pay. A
> > > > 26T sounds just about right.
>
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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

If you can determine that the shifters are indeed 9sp, that the
derailleur hanger is not bent, that the derailleur and downtube cable
stop are snug, and that the cable is routed properly under the bb,
then I would check the cable pinch bolt. If the cable runs on the
wrong side of the bolt, it changes the leverage ratio slightly, and
may lead to the problem you're describing.

On Nov 16, 9:11 am, Juhani  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’ve problem with adjusting my rear derailleur. It’s a Shimano XT 9-
> speed low normal (rapid rise) with XT 11-34 cassette and XT 9-speed
> chain. All of those are quite new and shouldn’t be worn out. The cable
> is new and just lubricated and the housing should be fine as well.
>
> The shifters are brand new Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-end shifters
> which I’m trying to install.
>
> Adjustment of the B-screw and H- & L-limit screws should be fine. I
> turned the adjuster on down tube cable stop halfway between all the
> way tight and all the way loose before attaching the cable. The cable
> is tightened with 4th hand tool so there shouldn’t be any slack in it.
>
> I adjusted the rear derailleur like this: I chose the middle chain
> ring in the front and shifted to second largest cog in the rear. Then
> turned the adjuster until it shifted to third cog. Then I turned the
> adjuster back so that the derailleur shifted back to the second cog.
> And finally adjusted it so that it wouldn’t make any noise.
>
> The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>
> Any ideas how to get it right?
>
> The low normal rear derailleur and Dura-Ace bar-end shifters should be
> compatible, right?
>
> Juhani

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[William]

Tsunamis

On Nov 16, 9:02 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> Killer bees...
>
> On Nov 16, 7:23 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high housing prices, fog,
> > earthquakes, etc...;-}
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Nov 16, 7:19 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
> > > and Sky.
>
> > > This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
> > > a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
> > > routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
> > > bike lanes and people actually using them.
>
> > > ~Mike~
>
> > > On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
>
> > > > You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> > > > Esteban
> > > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > > On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > > > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> > > > > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > > > > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[Rick P]

Two fellas (myself and a friend) here in northeast Ohio are definitely
interested. Great idea.

We might consider the area around Wellsboro, PA, near Pine Creek.
There are at least three hotels in town (at various price points) and
camping at multiple public areas near Pine Creek. In town are a couple
of decent restaurants, a bike shop, and a good little bagel spot. Also
in nearby Mansfield, PA is a wonderful little bike shop owned by
framebuilder Tom Oswald -- Oswald Cycle Works. (Oswald has posted some
links to rides of various lengths in the area --oswaldcycleworks.com.)
Wellsboro is surrounded by miles of quiet roads, both paved and dirt.
And if anyone is interested there is also some terrific mountain
biking in the area.

Wherever we go, it sounds fun.

Rick

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[RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[William]

Remember to specify size, just in case you get any takers.  22.2mm or
26.0mm.

Otherwise, you can always sell and buy, or buy,stash,hoard, and sell
later.

On Nov 15, 3:51 pm, williwoods  wrote:
> Thats right folks.
>
> In my quest to rid my bike of anything ano black...
>
> let me know
>
> Will
>
> willh...@yahoo.com

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[reynoldslugs]

I have the identical problem on my Davidson, with a 12-34 9 speed
cassette matched to a 24-36-46 triple.  The guys at the LBS tried
everything, replacing each part, replacing all the parts, lubing,
relubing, and readjusting the derailleur.

My problem is the same that you describe : the derailleur can be
adjusted so it does well with the three largest, or three smallest,
cogs  - - but not all 9.

This is a deeply perplexing issue, since the identical drive train on
my Bob Jackson shifts just fine, dandy.

For now, I have replaced the bar-end shifters with Paul Thumbies,
moving the shfiters up on the top of my handlebars.  Not as
convenient, looks odd, but shifts somewhat better.  The chief
mechanic, Loathsome Fritz, thinks the problem relates to the long
cable runs.  Shortening the cables by moving the shifters up top seems
to help a little. Still not perfect.

If you can figure this out, I will be grateful for whatever solution
you can come up with.
RL

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Earl Grey]

Another thought:

Are you sure the shifters are 9-speed? I can coax 8 clicks out of my
Shimano 7 speed barends, so perhaps you have an 8 speed that gives you
9 clicks, but the amount of cable pull would be wrong, leading to mis-
shifts at one end of the cassette or the other.

This is mere idle brainstorming, so take it with a grain of salt.

If you have multiple bikes and wheels, and 7, 8 , and 9 speed
cassettes and chains lying around, going friction is an incredibly
freeing proposition. Suddenly everything works with everything, and
you don't even have to think about it!

Good luck,

Gernot


On Nov 16, 10:11 pm, Juhani  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’ve problem with adjusting my rear derailleur. It’s a Shimano XT 9-
> speed low normal (rapid rise) with XT 11-34 cassette and XT 9-speed
> chain. All of those are quite new and shouldn’t be worn out. The cable
> is new and just lubricated and the housing should be fine as well.
>
> The shifters are brand new Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-end shifters
> which I’m trying to install.
>
> Adjustment of the B-screw and H- & L-limit screws should be fine. I
> turned the adjuster on down tube cable stop halfway between all the
> way tight and all the way loose before attaching the cable. The cable
> is tightened with 4th hand tool so there shouldn’t be any slack in it.
>
> I adjusted the rear derailleur like this: I chose the middle chain
> ring in the front and shifted to second largest cog in the rear. Then
> turned the adjuster until it shifted to third cog. Then I turned the
> adjuster back so that the derailleur shifted back to the second cog.
> And finally adjusted it so that it wouldn’t make any noise.
>
> The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>
> Any ideas how to get it right?
>
> The low normal rear derailleur and Dura-Ace bar-end shifters should be
> compatible, right?
>
> Juhani

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[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Earl Grey]

Juhani,

>From what I can tell you setup should work fine.

Have you checked whether the derailer hanger is bent? See
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html for how.

Then follow Sheldon's derailer adjustment procedure on the same page
(start on the largest cog instead of the smallest, as your derailer is
low normal, and reverse all his instructions ["shift down" becomes
"up", etc.]).

If it still doesn't work, simply turn the indexing off. :) I turned
the shifting off on my 9 speed Shimano bar ends (with low normal XTR
derailer) after getting Silver bar ends on my other bike. I much
prefer friction shifting now, though for 20 years I rode bar ends in
index mode. The Shimanos however don't friction shift as well as the
Silvers, so I just ordered a second pair of shifters from Riv, and
will just use the Shimano bar end pods with them.

Gernot


On Nov 16, 10:11 pm, Juhani  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’ve problem with adjusting my rear derailleur. It’s a Shimano XT 9-
> speed low normal (rapid rise) with XT 11-34 cassette and XT 9-speed
> chain. All of those are quite new and shouldn’t be worn out. The cable
> is new and just lubricated and the housing should be fine as well.
>
> The shifters are brand new Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-end shifters
> which I’m trying to install.
>
> Adjustment of the B-screw and H- & L-limit screws should be fine. I
> turned the adjuster on down tube cable stop halfway between all the
> way tight and all the way loose before attaching the cable. The cable
> is tightened with 4th hand tool so there shouldn’t be any slack in it.
>
> I adjusted the rear derailleur like this: I chose the middle chain
> ring in the front and shifted to second largest cog in the rear. Then
> turned the adjuster until it shifted to third cog. Then I turned the
> adjuster back so that the derailleur shifted back to the second cog.
> And finally adjusted it so that it wouldn’t make any noise.
>
> The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
> the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
> shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.
>
> Any ideas how to get it right?
>
> The low normal rear derailleur and Dura-Ace bar-end shifters should be
> compatible, right?
>
> Juhani

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

[Peter Andrews]

I'm with the OP Bobby on the Ecco train.  I used to wear Ecco
walkathons for years until they stopped making them.   I recently
bought a pair of Terranos (by Ecco), and they work perfectly with the
Tioga Surefoot 8s I have on my Bomba commuter.  I like a nice, solid,
low profile shoe with a full grain leather upper and stiff sole.   I'd
say Bobby and I have very similar tastes.

On Nov 15, 6:09 pm, charlie  wrote:
> Tevas, New Balance walking shoes, very rarely dress shoes ( for
> church ), Red Wing Western style pull on boots, my rubber "Duck" boots
> ( you know what these are if you live in Washington State on the wet
> side) numerous  varieties of whatever sport shoe I happen to wear at
> the time.
>
> On Nov 14, 2:45 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I saw mention of shoes on the pedal discussion, and decided to spawn a
> > new discussion...  What kind of shoes do you all ride with???  (I've
> > recently changed my perspective on shoes.)
>
> > Since owning my Bombadil I've virtually ceased using my SPD shoes.  My
> > pedals are Nashbar Rodeo 2 pedals, which have SPD bindings on one
> > side, platform on the other... Instead I ride my favorite, most
> > comfortable shoes, Ecco Country Walkers... I never would have
> > previously considered riding in my "street" shoes, which I now realize
> > is totally absurd.  Riding with these shoes puts a smile on my face.
> > Best of all, when I arrive (wherever it is I arrive at), I'm wearing
> > my favorite shoes.
>
> > BB

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[RBW] Nitto Crystal Fellow Seatpost FS: $55

[Eric Norris]

Nitto one-bolt seat post in pretty good condition (see photos).  27.2 diameter. 
 Minor scratching below the insertion line, and a portion of the anodized logo 
below the "Nitto" has come off.

Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625401683816/

Read about it here: 
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-crystal-fellow-seatpost-272-x-250/11-031

$55 includes shipping in the CONUS.

--Eric N

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Killer bees...

On Nov 16, 7:23 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high housing prices, fog,
> earthquakes, etc...;-}
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Nov 16, 7:19 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
> > and Sky.
>
> > This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
> > a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
> > routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
> > bike lanes and people actually using them.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
>
> > > You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> > > Esteban
> > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:
> > > > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> > > > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > > > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
>
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[Lee]

On Nov 15, 2:10 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> - Jim "I really need to get my schedule together an call an Entmoot..."

Now let's not get hasty, Jim ;)

Best,
Lee

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Jon Grant]

+2 for the bagman. I have two of them, a smaller for a Carradice Barley and
a larger one for an older, larger Carradice-made Rivendell bag. They go on
and off the bike with ease, really. Don¹t know why they¹re not more popular
with this crowd.

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From: "Allingham II, Thomas J" 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:24:36 -0500
To: "'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'"

Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

+1 for the Bagman.  I have a non-QR version on my Quickbeam under a Nigel
Smythe Country bag, and it works great and is very light.
>From the front:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4411487711/
>From the rear:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4412267966/

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pesce
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:39 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my Sam H
and I love it.
I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment is
only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every time,
either.
Just my 2c.

-Pete

On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> use one.
>
> Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> David

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RE: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

+1 for the Bagman.  I have a non-QR version on my Quickbeam under a Nigel 
Smythe Country bag, and it works great and is very light.
>From the front:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4411487711/
>From the rear:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4412267966/ 

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pesce
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:39 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my Sam H and 
I love it.
I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment is only 
one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every time, either.
Just my 2c.

-Pete

On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium 
> SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for 
> lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at 
> the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it 
> rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their 
> "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm 
> aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not 
> use one.
>
> Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and 
> Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the 
> underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> David

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[Michael_S]

oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high housing prices, fog,
earthquakes, etc...;-}

~Mike~

On Nov 16, 7:19 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
> and Sky.
>
> This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
> a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
> routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
> bike lanes and people actually using them.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
>
>
>
> > You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> > Esteban
> > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:
> > > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> > > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

[Michael_S]

very cool... the article really says some nice things about Velo Cult
and Sky.

This is one of the reasons I'm moving there next summer. I just bought
a house there and am really excited to explore some new cycling
routes. It seems like every where around my new neighborhood there are
bike lanes and people actually using them.

~Mike~

On Nov 15, 11:21 pm, Esteban  wrote:
> You know me now! Protovelo representin'.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:
> > > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> > > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> > >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
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[RBW] Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

[Juhani]

Hi,

I’ve problem with adjusting my rear derailleur. It’s a Shimano XT 9-
speed low normal (rapid rise) with XT 11-34 cassette and XT 9-speed
chain. All of those are quite new and shouldn’t be worn out. The cable
is new and just lubricated and the housing should be fine as well.

The shifters are brand new Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed bar-end shifters
which I’m trying to install.

Adjustment of the B-screw and H- & L-limit screws should be fine. I
turned the adjuster on down tube cable stop halfway between all the
way tight and all the way loose before attaching the cable. The cable
is tightened with 4th hand tool so there shouldn’t be any slack in it.

I adjusted the rear derailleur like this: I chose the middle chain
ring in the front and shifted to second largest cog in the rear. Then
turned the adjuster until it shifted to third cog. Then I turned the
adjuster back so that the derailleur shifted back to the second cog.
And finally adjusted it so that it wouldn’t make any noise.

The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not
the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones
shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa.

Any ideas how to get it right?

The low normal rear derailleur and Dura-Ace bar-end shifters should be
compatible, right?

Juhani

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[RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Peter Pesce]

I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my
Sam H and I love it.
I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment
is only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every
time, either.
Just my 2c.

-Pete

On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> use one.
>
> Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> David

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[RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[Garth]

You can remove the black anodizing yourself. Some use lye based oven
cleaner.  or just lye.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[Seth Vidal]

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean
 wrote:
> A noble endeavor.
>
> It's a shame Paul doesn't have a silver (or at least gray) barrel
> adjuster to go on its silver ano thumbies. Doesn't anyone make silvery-
> gray-ish plastic? Must be hard to source.
>
> I also wish DaVinci would make silver cable couplers.
>

The cable splitters made by bruce gordon are silver.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Hillborne, all Waterford

[MichaelH]

Very nice bike, but about 10 cm too small for me.  For others who
might be pondering a purchase, I can add that I run the White hubs and
cranks on my Rambouillet.  The crank and rings are absolutely super,
and way better looking than it appears in photos.  You can run
virtually any combination of rings you want.  I run a 44/30  with an
11/28. which gives me a very wide range of gears and a pretty simple
shifting pattern.  Some people complain about the noise White hubs
make, but I have found it a very steady sound which is covered by wind
noise above 15mph.  This looks like a very sweet bike.  Can we ask
what you are asking for it?

Michael

On Nov 14, 10:40 am, Thebikehermit 
wrote:
> I recently closed my retail store. I had two 57 cm A.H.H. frames which
> Rivendell bought back, so if you've been waiting for/wanting
> one...give them a call. I also have a 52cm Hillborne which is
> currently built in a little unusual, but high end configuration. White
> Industries hubs and crankset, 10 speed Shimano Ultegra brifters.
> Comfortable and 
> fast.http://www.flickr.com/photos/45715...@n06/4831921730/in/photostream/
> Reply to me if you have an interest. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

A noble endeavor.

It's a shame Paul doesn't have a silver (or at least gray) barrel
adjuster to go on its silver ano thumbies. Doesn't anyone make silvery-
gray-ish plastic? Must be hard to source.

I also wish DaVinci would make silver cable couplers.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Nov 15, 5:51 pm, williwoods  wrote:
> Thats right folks.
>
> In my quest to rid my bike of anything ano black...
>
> let me know
>
> Will
>
> willh...@yahoo.com

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[RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hi!

The way I've done it is to thread a strap through the D-rings
horizontally, then bring the ends of the strap up to the saddle (over
the bag's opening flap) and pass them over my Nitto saddlebag grip's
"handle". When tightened, the strap will pull toward the saddle and
up, lifting the bottom of the bag away from the tire. I used one of
the 1-meter Irish straps from RBW, though I don't think it required
the full length; maybe needed 30"?

 I can't think of any reason why you couldn't get the same effect
without the saddlebag grip; simply pass the strap through the saddle's
wire frame,

I can't say this'll work for you... it did for me. But I had a 57cm
frame with a steep-ish seat tube and at least two fistfuls of seat
post showing. That is, a relative abundance of vertical space. You may
need to consider the SaddleSack Small if this doesn't raise the bag
enough for you.

There are potential complications, as you are not only pulling the bag
*up* but also pulling the bag toward the saddle... perhaps that'll
cause thigh-rub or interfere with brake cables; a stand-off between
the "back" of the bag and the seatpost might help you there. (The
saddlebag grip definitely helped me that way; it inherently provides
maybe a couple of inches of standoff.)

I actually let my loaded SaddleSack Medium simply rest on my fender
(SKS chromoplastic) at one point. The only immediate problem that
caused was that a fender stay came un-capped and the bare metal tip
poked and prodded the bottom of my saddlebag, chewing up the leather
somewhat. Even after I capped the stay and lifted the bag as described
above, it still marred the leather on the bottom as I jounced along.
More beausage than I really wanted.

In any case, what surprised me was that there was no obvious
detrimental effect on the fender! The stainless steel stays and the
fender's material and curved shape apparently provide a relatively
strong platform. I do suspect, though, that long term that would have
to take a toll on the fender. But if my rack became unusable for some
reason, I'd have no problem finishing a journey that way.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Nov 15, 9:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> use one.
>
> Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> David

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