Re: [RBW] Re: Riding the Atlantis
Do you notice instability issues at certain speeds above 20mph when front loaded? K. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:31 PM, doug peterson wrote: > Khalid: > > I've been touring with my Atlantis since 03 & have loaded it in a > variety of ways. For me, weight in the front is helpful. All the > weight in the back didn't work. Splitting the load into 4 bags & > using front low riders is stable. After trying different things over > the years, I prefer about 60% in the front, 40% rear for the maxxed > out camping load. For a lodging tour, I just use front low riders. I > always have an Acorn Boxy Rando bag on & it holds a lot of stuff by > itself. > > Get good stiff racks, Nitto, Tubus, Bruce Gordon, etc. Cheap racks > will drive you crazy with 20 lbs of weight on them. Experiment with > your own load on your bike to see what works for you. IMHO it's as > much about your riding style as where the load is placed. Among my > touring buds, some prefer front, some prefer rear, some don't care. > It's quite individual. > > dougP > > On Apr 5, 8:05 am, Khalid Mateen wrote: > > Morning Everyone: > > > > I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front > loading > > but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a > > Atlantis? > > > > Thanks > > > > K. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding the Atlantis
Khalid: I've been touring with my Atlantis since 03 & have loaded it many different ways. The front v rear question comes up in discussions with tourists on all kinds of bikes. It's common for two people with the same bike to each prefer a different loading scheme. In other words, there's no "best way" to load a bike. Consider that the rider is the majority of the weight and the rider is a live load, ie., moving around, climbing out of the saddle, etc. So individual riding style has a strong influence on how the bike handles with a load. Probably like a lot of other people, I started with just a rear rack & pair of panniers, and a bunch of stuff strapped to the top of the rack. For me, the handling was terrible. Adding front low riders and splitting the load into 4 bags was a huge improvement. At one point on a tour I was getting some noticeabale rear wobbling, so I just swapped front & rear bags. Problem solved. I did some experiments at home with my typical loads and concluded that for me the optimal handling was about 60% on the front and 40% on the rear. My loading for lodging tours is front bags only. For camping tours, I add rear bags for the extra gear. Front low riders on the Atlantis don't seem to affect handling in any negative way. Steering gets a bit heavy but the bike remains stable. I always have an Acorn Boxy Rando bag on a small Nitto front rack on the bike, and don't hesitate to load the bag full with all kinds of junk. The rack, bag & contents proably top 5-6 lbs frequently. My suggestion is for you to experiment with load placement on your own bike at home. Your riding style, where you like the load (high or low), how much weight, etc., are all individual variables. It's actually a fun exercise if done at home on a known route, instead of trying to sort it out while on tour. One bit if advice: spend the bucks for good racks; they are worth it. Nitto, Tubus, Bruce Gordon, etc. I will promise a cheap, flimsy rack, regardless of placement, will make your life miserable with 20 lbs of panniers attached to it. dougP On Apr 5, 8:05 am, Khalid Mateen wrote: > Morning Everyone: > > I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading > but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a > Atlantis? > > Thanks > > K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] bicycle camping on Catalina Island?
on 4/5/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits -- not sure where to begin. I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway from LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where to begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome. Thanks in advance, Aaron Wow... that takes me back to the last century. Probably long enough ago that everything has changed. A few of us took our "new" mountain bikes there for a couple nights. There were permits involved, but it was pretty cool. Rode. Cooked. Camped. Rode back down to Avalon and the harbor. We packed up the bikes and gear at the end and were suprised that the ferry was 10 minutes early. Boarded and stretched out in the sun. It pushed away from the dock and announced we would be arrived in San Pedro some time in the future. Of course, we had parked in Long Beach. And had the ferry from that port, rather than San Pedro. Though we all agreed that it looked curiously identical to the one we were on as it passed by about 10 minutes later. Luckily, we had bikes. So the trek to our car just became part of the story... - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding the Atlantis
on 4/5/11 11:23 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cyclofiend I say this with respect but it is not an assumption. There are report that when the Atlantis is front loaded and goes pass a certain mile/hr, the bike begins to wobble alot. Especially on down hills. I just want to get peoples experience on this. Is it really bad? Can you just brace the bicycle when moving at high speeds? No disrespect to you cyclofiend. Not trying to start a debate but looking for people input. None taken. But, I still think that if there were repeated, documented incidents of speed wobbles or shimmy (a different topic than what I thought from your initial question about rear loading - shimmy is an oscillation at a specific speed under particular load conditions), they would have appeared in this list and could be found in the archives. We have had some discussion about that, and here's a quick search using "atlantis shimmy" http://tinyurl.com/atlantis-shimmy The cause of speed wobble/shimmy is not well understood, and it gets hashed to death via online forums. A good place to start is here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/shimmy.html hope that was more helpful for what you were asking about. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirt (and others!) - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding the Atlantis
I tour with front and rear panniers, plus a handlebar bag. My Atlantis handles perfectly unless I try to squeeze too much weight in the handlebar bag. Front panniers, no problem, even if I load them up with heavy things. As I like to tour in the mountains, I have plenty of experience on downhills with a load. No problem. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Khalid Mateen wrote: > Hi Cyclofiend > > I say this with respect but it is not an assumption. There are report that > when the Atlantis is front loaded and goes pass a certain mile/hr, the bike > begins to wobble alot. Especially on down hills. I just want to get > peoples experience on this. Is it really bad? Can you just brace the > bicycle when moving at high speeds? > > No disrespect to you cyclofiend. Not trying to start a debate but looking > for people input. > > K. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:13 PM, CycloFiend wrote: >> >> on 4/5/11 8:05 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front >> loading but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading >> on a Atlantis? >> >> For the best answers to this, I would search back through the archives - I >> know there have been several threads on loading the Atlantis (and other Riv >> models). I don't have ready access to a specific search, but it should be >> pretty findable. >> >> Regarding the design, I'm not at all sure that I agree with the base >> assumption. While certainly there are bicycle design choices that favor >> handling with heavy front loads, there are enough riders who balance load or >> front load their Rivendells to demonstrate the flexibility of the RBW >> models. Carrying cargo on the front end of a bike is one thing, putting >> food and some gear in a rando bag is another. >> >> Personally, of late I've been flipping back and forth between the Hilsen >> (Country Bag aft) and the Quickbeam (L'il Loafer-ized currently, but often >> with a small rando bag near the bow), and find it more of a correction to go >> to the Hilsen than back to the 'Beam. And then a couple miles go by and >> I'm watching hawks and enjoying the ride... ;^) >> >> - Jim >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Edgar >> cyclofi...@earthlink.net >> >> Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com >> Current Classics - Cross Bikes >> Singlespeed - Working Bikes >> >> Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com >> >> >> "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I >> follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me." >> -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding the Atlantis
Hi Cyclofiend I say this with respect but it is not an assumption. There are report that when the Atlantis is front loaded and goes pass a certain mile/hr, the bike begins to wobble alot. Especially on down hills. I just want to get peoples experience on this. Is it really bad? Can you just brace the bicycle when moving at high speeds? No disrespect to you cyclofiend. Not trying to start a debate but looking for people input. K. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:13 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 4/5/11 8:05 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading > but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a > Atlantis? > > > For the best answers to this, I would search back through the archives - I > know there have been several threads on loading the Atlantis (and other Riv > models). I don't have ready access to a specific search, but it should be > pretty findable. > > Regarding the design, I'm not at all sure that I agree with the base > assumption. While certainly there are bicycle design choices that favor > handling with heavy front loads, there are enough riders who balance load or > front load their Rivendells to demonstrate the flexibility of the RBW > models. Carrying cargo on the front end of a bike is one thing, putting > food and some gear in a rando bag is another. > > Personally, of late I've been flipping back and forth between the Hilsen > (Country Bag aft) and the Quickbeam (L'il Loafer-ized currently, but often > with a small rando bag near the bow), and find it more of a correction to go > to the Hilsen than back to the 'Beam. And then a couple miles go by and > I'm watching hawks and enjoying the ride... ;^) > > - Jim > > > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I > follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me." > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Whoa! Great to see all the posts and read all my fellow lurkers' posts! And what pretty bikes we have. It's especially fun to see the raw clear coat Rodeo with, among other fine accoutrements, a Finesse! Now that's a woman's riv! Okay, I'll get some pictures up on flicker and report back when I do. And a fast correction: the reissue WoolyWarms don't come in women's sizes; that was a typo. I meant to say that the small fits me, a small woman, just fine. The cardigan is really the same in fit, style, and wool as the original issue. My old one has so much dog-induced beausage from biscuits in the doit pockets that it probably won't handle being darned again--but that's another story. My main point is: great to hear from all the Riv Chicas. (And thanks to all the posters at large because I continually learn so much and get so inspired from the discussion threads and the photos.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
The Suntour derailleurs were fabulous in terms of durability, and in the shifting benefits that come from a derailleur that remains solid in its various pivots. One retrofit that I recall making, "back in the day," was to replace the upper jockey wheel of a Suntour derailleur with a floating Shimano jockey. The float in that upper wheel is crucial in compensating for the changing chain angle as one goes through the gears, and results in a much smoother/quieter drivetrain. On Apr 5, 9:23 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > In my rather limited experience, modern Shimano rds are hard to beat for > long cage rds. The LX that I swapped out for a 15 year old (at least) XT > shifted much better than the XT (but I didn't like the reverse action) and > the XT shifts better than the various SunTours that I used. If a modern rd > shifts as well as that LX, it will shift wonderfully, even over bastard > cassettes made from out-of-series cogs, via Silver bar end shifters. > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Kip Otteson wrote: > > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > > Kip Otteson > > Chiang Mai, Thailand > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Mithril. Funny. On Apr 5, 5:30 pm, Roger wrote: > Wow! > Is that frame Mithril? > > On Apr 5, 4:54 pm, Marty wrote: > > > > > > > > > Perfection! > > >http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > > Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FT/ FS Lugged Stem
I have a new 12cm lug stem still in sealed bag from Rivendell that I am willing to trade for a shorter one in good condition if anyone wants to go longer. Otherwise willing to put towards a trade for any grey grid sacks. Contact me off line to discuss. Sincerely, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Retro Rear Der
It's a dual pivot so it does mimic the SunTours in that regard, but I have never seen a Rally that was a slant parallelogram design and that was the other key thing in improving shifting. IIRC the Rally was discontinued before the SunTour patent expired and Shimano pounced on it. I'd have to go look at the Campy timeline. The Rally derailleurs do shift better with modern cog profiles and flexible 3/32" chains; they were terrible back in the day of 5 speeds. On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > Actually, mine shifts very nicely, probably because its design mimicked > Japanese derailleurs of the time. This particular Rally is on my PBP bike. > > --Eric > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > >> >> On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Eric Norris wrote: >> >>> Campagnolo Rally. Friction shifting ... Retro ... Beautiful ... Is there >>> any other choice? >> >> Almost anything else. Those derailleurs shifted very poorly, even by >> Campagnolo standards of the time. Any cheap SunTour contemporary derailleur >> shifted much better. Campy was behind the curve in derailleur performance >> for years and years. >> >> Purty, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Looking forward to the forthcoming build images even more now. That is a great looking frame--and well presented. However I hope you have smoother sailing with a bottom bracket/crank set than Amit and I have each had. Resolved mine with a backup for now, but still believe I can return to the original build plan in the very near future. Ryan On Apr 6, 12:22 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > Beautiful!!! Enjoy it! > > René > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Amit Singh wrote: > > Incredible Bomba. The silver shines all the way to Detroit, like > > moonlight captured in the paint and refracted. > > > I'm glad you kept it a secret for so long. It was worth the wait. > > > On Apr 5, 7:54 pm, Marty wrote: > > > Perfection! > > > >http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > > > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > > > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > > > Marty > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Beautiful!!! Enjoy it! René On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Amit Singh wrote: > Incredible Bomba. The silver shines all the way to Detroit, like > moonlight captured in the paint and refracted. > > I'm glad you kept it a secret for so long. It was worth the wait. > > On Apr 5, 7:54 pm, Marty wrote: > > Perfection! > > > > http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > > > Marty > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
I'm not Nathan, but that looks a bit like the rare-in-the-USA silver Tubus Fly rack. On Apr 5, 3:57 pm, doug peterson wrote: > Nathan: > > What rack is on the pink Saluki? Nice clean look. > > dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Retro Rear Der
Actually, mine shifts very nicely, probably because its design mimicked Japanese derailleurs of the time. This particular Rally is on my PBP bike. --Eric On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > >> Campagnolo Rally. Friction shifting ... Retro ... Beautiful ... Is there >> any other choice? > > Almost anything else. Those derailleurs shifted very poorly, even by > Campagnolo standards of the time. Any cheap SunTour contemporary derailleur > shifted much better. Campy was behind the curve in derailleur performance > for years and years. > > Purty, though. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Retro Rear Der
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > Campagnolo Rally. Friction shifting ... Retro ... Beautiful ... Is there any > other choice? Almost anything else. Those derailleurs shifted very poorly, even by Campagnolo standards of the time. Any cheap SunTour contemporary derailleur shifted much better. Campy was behind the curve in derailleur performance for years and years. Purty, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB/WTT: less than pristine 10cm Nitto Pearl or Tech Dlx.
Howdy folks. I just discovered that the stem I had powder coated black for a "modern" bike build is more like an 11cm than a 10cm (I still really don't get the Nitto sizing). Anyway, because I would be powder coating it, I can do some sanding and light filing to remove scratches above the minimum insertion line. Anybody have a well used but with unmangled hardware Pearl or Technomic Deluxe? I have a lot of extra stuff, so a trade might be possible. Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Interesting; thanks for posting that. I wonder what my frame was made from: certainly oversized and quite light, but doubtless not as thinwall as tubing for light road racers. Actually, I think a good part of the bike's appeal was the frame design: IIRC, it was well balanced: not to twitchy, not too slow and, in particular, the front end seemed easier to keep straight over soft surfaces than some other mtbs I have owned. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:51 PM, bfd wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 6:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? > My > > 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very > > nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my > > brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem > beating > > up similar frames. > > > Patrick, > > Here are some specs to help you decide. > > The specs for the current Prestige tubing: > http://www.tange-design.com/products_detail.php?sn=161 > > Here's the specs on the older Prestige tubing: > http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/tange/Tange-road-tubing-I.jpg > > As you can see the old Prestige came in several different forms. The > current Prestige only in one with an "Ultimate" tubing be the lightest/ > top of the line. Good Luck! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
I have Suntour XC Pro dérailleurs on two bikes. They work fine with friction shifting in either 6, 7 or 8 speeds. If you want to use Accushift thumb shifters , Suntours version of indexed shifting you will need a Suntour hub and cassette IMO. The cassette spacing is slightly different than shimaNo's of the same size and the freewheel housing spline is different too. BTW.. where are these dérailleurs you speak of I'm always looking for clean rear dérailleurs. ~Mike ( Mr Suntour) On Apr 5, 7:28 pm, Dan Abelson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Kip Otteson wrote: > > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > > Kip Otteson > > Chiang Mai, Thailand > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > Kip, > > If you are referring to the Deore XT derailleur, I advertised yesterday it > is sold (sold within 10 minutes). > > Dan Abelson > St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bicycle camping on Catalina Island?
People take the ferry over and ride to Twin Harbors dirt roads most of the way when you leave Avalon. There is a store and campground there. You need a permit to ride out of Avalon. Here is a blog from someones trip ( not mine) http://www.frontageroads.com/2010/12/08/salsa-fargo-bikepacking-santa-catalina-island/ I'd be willing to try this sometime. ~Mike On Apr 5, 3:35 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Jerry Hersch on ibob list did it, or at least a day ride there. Do > you have his email? > > On 4/5/11, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or > > logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful > > resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits -- > > not sure where to begin. > > > I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway from > > LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where to > > begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Aaron > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Apr 5, 6:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My > 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very > nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my > brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem beating > up similar frames. > Patrick, Here are some specs to help you decide. The specs for the current Prestige tubing: http://www.tange-design.com/products_detail.php?sn=161 Here's the specs on the older Prestige tubing: http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/tange/Tange-road-tubing-I.jpg As you can see the old Prestige came in several different forms. The current Prestige only in one with an "Ultimate" tubing be the lightest/ top of the line. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I've got three kids, so have done my part to perpetuate the species... it's all extranious bits now I suppose. On 4/5/11, rcnute wrote: > Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same > sentence... > > Ryan > > On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote: >> I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end >> format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's >> assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it >> were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is >> mainstream even though 1" threadless is not mainstream. I don't think >> there are many potential buyers who would tell you that 1" threadless >> is their first choice. The point that bfd didn't make was that from a >> business standpoint, if I was Merry Sales, and if I wanted to keep the >> price as low as possible, I'd seriously consider offering only one >> fork for all sizes and drop the price of the frameset. That, I think, >> would generate more sales, and could only be done with...wait for >> it...threadless. There's already a precedent for one fork rake across >> lots of sizes for the budget Rivendell frames. If Soma wanted to >> offer the San Marcos at a lower price, and wanted to get there with a >> threadless fork, then I could definitely believe that might yield more >> sales. I doubt there are a lot of buyers who say "this frameset right >> here is perfect for me, but I don't like the headset type so I won't >> buy it". They'll disqualify on price, weight, fit, even color, but >> headset? I don't think so. I could be wrong. >> >> FWIW, I've had all the headset formats and all of them worked fine, >> including 1-1/4" threaded and 1" threadless. When it comes down to >> looks and how nervous you are about crotchal safety, I'd say we're >> into the unimportant differentiators. >> >> On Apr 5, 3:34 pm, cyclotourist wrote: >> >> > I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is >> > fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I >> > don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good >> > with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the >> > big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though. Plus I don't >> > like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail >> > riding. As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming >> > you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability. You have to >> > get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a >> > quill stem as well. And the open face plate for bar changes is >> > wonderful, although used rarely. >> >> > My $.02 >> >> > On 4/5/11, bfd wrote: >> >> > > On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote: >> > >> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think >> > >> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more >> > >> mainstream. >> >> > > Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will >> > > sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on >> > > at least a couple of its bikes: >> >> > > Roadeo: >> > >http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roade... >> >> > > Legolas (currently not offered): >> > >http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg >> >> > > And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use >> > > threadless. >> >> > > I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original >> > > "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his >> > > accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded >> > > headsets and quill stems: >> >> > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html >> >> > >>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv >> > >> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for >> > >> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. >> >> > > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1" >> > > threadless with a shim could be an option. Further, how many people >> > > really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover, >> > > unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or >> > > removed. Finally, there are stems that rise. >> >> > > Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new >> > > frameset. Good Luck! >> >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > Groups >> > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > David >> > Redlands, CA >> >> > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would >> > probably
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Incredible Bomba. The silver shines all the way to Detroit, like moonlight captured in the paint and refracted. I'm glad you kept it a secret for so long. It was worth the wait. On Apr 5, 7:54 pm, Marty wrote: > Perfection! > > http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > Kip, If you are referring to the Deore XT derailleur, I advertised yesterday it is sold (sold within 10 minutes). Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
Hi Kip. Funny but I just put a sun tour xc pro on one bike. It was in pristine condition given the age. It works fine, the action is a little tight compared to my other ones (a deore, a late 90s xt, early 90s xt). It should work fine, I'm using six or seven speed for me. Funny about the deore xt for sale, didn't realize the demand for those. On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now? From: Lynne Fitz To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas I'm here, but mostly lurk. I've got a well-used Bleriot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/1509884296/in/set-72157602305155676 Lesli's Pencil and my Bleriot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4511206713/in/set-72157623832512214 and from the Portland Riv Ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4676917808/in/set-72157624094636683/ It is used for commuting and urban errands, as it has the rear rack. A venerable Jim Blackburn rear rack :-) Lynne F ps. I'm the serious cyclist in the family. On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
I'm here, but mostly lurk. I've got a well-used Bleriot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/1509884296/in/set-72157602305155676 Lesli's Pencil and my Bleriot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4511206713/in/set-72157623832512214 and from the Portland Riv Ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4676917808/in/set-72157624094636683/ It is used for commuting and urban errands, as it has the rear rack. A venerable Jim Blackburn rear rack :-) Lynne F ps. I'm the serious cyclist in the family. On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Roy - the bolts are simply another pair of locations to attach things - like a Mark's rack for instance. Well, that and to win the "my bike has more braze-ons than yours" argument. I don't have a scale close at hand, but they have one at the bike shop across the street. If I have a chance Saturday, I'll let you know. It really doesn't feel heavy - the '83 Stumpjumper in some of the photos is a boat anchor by comparison. Marty On Apr 5, 8:21 pm, Roy Yates wrote: > Beautiful frame! > > Just curious, what are the bolts on top of the fork crown? Also, dare > I ask, but what does the bare frame weigh? > > ...Roy > > On Apr 5, 8:45 pm, Leslie wrote: > > > > > Sweet! > > > Congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same sentence... Ryan On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote: > I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end > format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's > assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it > were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is > mainstream even though 1" threadless is not mainstream. I don't think > there are many potential buyers who would tell you that 1" threadless > is their first choice. The point that bfd didn't make was that from a > business standpoint, if I was Merry Sales, and if I wanted to keep the > price as low as possible, I'd seriously consider offering only one > fork for all sizes and drop the price of the frameset. That, I think, > would generate more sales, and could only be done with...wait for > it...threadless. There's already a precedent for one fork rake across > lots of sizes for the budget Rivendell frames. If Soma wanted to > offer the San Marcos at a lower price, and wanted to get there with a > threadless fork, then I could definitely believe that might yield more > sales. I doubt there are a lot of buyers who say "this frameset right > here is perfect for me, but I don't like the headset type so I won't > buy it". They'll disqualify on price, weight, fit, even color, but > headset? I don't think so. I could be wrong. > > FWIW, I've had all the headset formats and all of them worked fine, > including 1-1/4" threaded and 1" threadless. When it comes down to > looks and how nervous you are about crotchal safety, I'd say we're > into the unimportant differentiators. > > On Apr 5, 3:34 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > > > I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is > > fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I > > don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good > > with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the > > big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though. Plus I don't > > like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail > > riding. As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming > > you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability. You have to > > get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a > > quill stem as well. And the open face plate for bar changes is > > wonderful, although used rarely. > > > My $.02 > > > On 4/5/11, bfd wrote: > > > > On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote: > > >> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think > > >> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more > > >> mainstream. > > > > Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will > > > sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on > > > at least a couple of its bikes: > > > > Roadeo: > > >http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roade... > > > > Legolas (currently not offered): > > >http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg > > > > And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use > > > threadless. > > > > I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original > > > "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his > > > accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded > > > headsets and quill stems: > > > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html > > > >>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv > > >> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for > > >> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. > > > > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1" > > > threadless with a shim could be an option. Further, how many people > > > really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover, > > > unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or > > > removed. Finally, there are stems that rise. > > > > Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new > > > frameset. Good Luck! > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > probably benefit more from > > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@goo
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem beating up similar frames. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:39 PM, EricP wrote: > Don't know the answers, but from what I can gather, present Prestige > has little to no relation to the old Prestige tubing. That was light, > heat treated tubing that had some serious restrictions on it for frame > builders. (This is all from 25 year old memories, so take with a grain > of salt.) If remembering correctly, the old Prestige actually had a > weight limit for riders. Never threw a leg over a bike built by one > for that reason. > > Even though today's Prestige doesn't have that weight limit, still > won't buy a bike built with it. Mental block on my part. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Apr 5, 3:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or > recent > > Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I > > remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing > > literature. The tubing had a nice, clear "ping" when you flicked it with > > your fingernail, unlike the dull "thud" of lesser steels. > > > > (Wish they didn't have those ugly and useless dt shifter bosses, tho' > ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, davidfrench > wrote: > > > maybe here : > > > > >http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-. > .. > > > > > On Apr 1, 4:59 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe? > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote: > > > > > > > Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :) > > > > > > > Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info. > > > > > > > On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216 > > > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike > they > > > are > > > > > > > working on together? > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com- Hide quoted > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Very clean. Nice look. Bet she rides great, too. From: kps To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas Liesl, i would love to see your clear-coat Proto Bleriot! please post photos. i mostly 'lurk' here, as well, but i always enjoy reading the postings by everyone. i have a clear-coat Rivendell Roadeo (57cm) that i'm quite thankful to be riding. a photo of it can be seen here http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848401@N03/4734024586/in/set-72157623773112005 kps > Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki > and my 2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's > Quickbeam. > > Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will. > > fondly, > Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Well, that's set up for some heavy duty. First time I have seen a frame lock on a Riv. Interesting. From: Lisa To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas OK, I'll come out and join the delurkers. Here (http://tinyurl.com/ 3wnmv8b) is a picture of my 47 cm Atlantis parked in my office. Peter White built it up for me last summer. It was his last in-stock Atlantis frame. I ride it pretty much every day, in all weather, for commuting, touring, and just getting around. I love it, it's great fun to ride and it fits me better than any other bike I've ever ridden. On Apr 5, 10:57 am, TSW wrote: > It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Wingnuts of various designs were the standard race and upscale attachment device until Tulio had his epiphany on the alps and, as they lasted so long they must have worked. I think they were used with chain tugs, though. I wanted to try some without the tugs and bought a handful (not the VOs) but found that the threading was too small for the standard track axle. I'd love to try a pair of VOs, but not, I repeat not, at $45 a pair. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM, mike wrote: > Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just > by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking > mechanism? > > On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Nice bike! Well done! From: Zaelia To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 8:35 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only briefly)... Here is a picture of my AHH... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ At one year old, this bike has been pure joy for me to ride. Before AHH I was primarily a commuter/utility cyclist - riding my mid-90s Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike. Since AHH, I've joined a casual bicycle club (riding most Sundays anywhere from 60-90 km), ridden the 100 km route in two populaires, ridden 122 km in the Whistler GranFondo, and commuted to work and around town. I ♥ my AHH! My favourite comment this weekend from a man walking on the street was "That's the first Rivendell I've seen in this town," to which I replied "there are a few." There are quite a few, actually, but the sight of one is still rare enough for those who know a Rivendell to get excited. Jodi Vancouver, BC On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
In my rather limited experience, modern Shimano rds are hard to beat for long cage rds. The LX that I swapped out for a 15 year old (at least) XT shifted much better than the XT (but I didn't like the reverse action) and the XT shifts better than the various SunTours that I used. If a modern rd shifts as well as that LX, it will shift wonderfully, even over bastard cassettes made from out-of-series cogs, via Silver bar end shifters. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Beautiful frame! Just curious, what are the bolts on top of the fork crown? Also, dare I ask, but what does the bare frame weigh? ...Roy On Apr 5, 8:45 pm, Leslie wrote: > Sweet! > > Congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
Kip: Personally I love the '85 Suntour XC derailleurs and shifters... Overbuilt, bombproof, and they look awesome. I also love the older Deore "deerhead" derailleurs and the brushed aluminum friction shifters... equally fine; I own sets of each. For my Bomba, I use a 1998 Shimano XTR m951 (low normal) derailleur with the built-in rollamajiggy, and I use friction/indexed Deore thumbies (from the late 80s). I run a 7-speed touring cassette on a Phil Wood freewheel hub. This setup (except for the low normal) is near perfect. (Also, the brake levers from this era were unmatched). Here are a few pics: Shifters: http://tinyurl.com/3kyxtfu, Brake Levers: http://tinyurl.com/3m3n9w6 Bottom line: Shimano stuff (through much of the 90s) remained good, but there's nothing that compares to that mid-late-80s stuff... It was built so amazingly well. Good luck! BB On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Sweet! Congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is mainstream even though 1" threadless is not mainstream. I don't think there are many potential buyers who would tell you that 1" threadless is their first choice. The point that bfd didn't make was that from a business standpoint, if I was Merry Sales, and if I wanted to keep the price as low as possible, I'd seriously consider offering only one fork for all sizes and drop the price of the frameset. That, I think, would generate more sales, and could only be done with...wait for it...threadless. There's already a precedent for one fork rake across lots of sizes for the budget Rivendell frames. If Soma wanted to offer the San Marcos at a lower price, and wanted to get there with a threadless fork, then I could definitely believe that might yield more sales. I doubt there are a lot of buyers who say "this frameset right here is perfect for me, but I don't like the headset type so I won't buy it". They'll disqualify on price, weight, fit, even color, but headset? I don't think so. I could be wrong. FWIW, I've had all the headset formats and all of them worked fine, including 1-1/4" threaded and 1" threadless. When it comes down to looks and how nervous you are about crotchal safety, I'd say we're into the unimportant differentiators. On Apr 5, 3:34 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is > fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I > don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good > with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the > big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though. Plus I don't > like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail > riding. As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming > you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability. You have to > get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a > quill stem as well. And the open face plate for bar changes is > wonderful, although used rarely. > > My $.02 > > On 4/5/11, bfd wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote: > >> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think > >> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more > >> mainstream. > > > Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will > > sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on > > at least a couple of its bikes: > > > Roadeo: > >http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roade... > > > Legolas (currently not offered): > >http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg > > > And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use > > threadless. > > > I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original > > "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his > > accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded > > headsets and quill stems: > > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html > > >>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv > >> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for > >> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. > > > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1" > > threadless with a shim could be an option. Further, how many people > > really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover, > > unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or > > removed. Finally, there are stems that rise. > > > Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new > > frameset. Good Luck! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Don't know the answers, but from what I can gather, present Prestige has little to no relation to the old Prestige tubing. That was light, heat treated tubing that had some serious restrictions on it for frame builders. (This is all from 25 year old memories, so take with a grain of salt.) If remembering correctly, the old Prestige actually had a weight limit for riders. Never threw a leg over a bike built by one for that reason. Even though today's Prestige doesn't have that weight limit, still won't buy a bike built with it. Mental block on my part. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 5, 3:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or recent > Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I > remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing > literature. The tubing had a nice, clear "ping" when you flicked it with > your fingernail, unlike the dull "thud" of lesser steels. > > (Wish they didn't have those ugly and useless dt shifter bosses, tho' ...) > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, davidfrench wrote: > > maybe here : > > >http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-... > > > On Apr 1, 4:59 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe? > > > > Ryan > > > > On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote: > > > > > Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :) > > > > > Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info. > > > > > On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216 > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike they > > are > > > > > > working on together? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Wow! Is that frame Mithril? On Apr 5, 4:54 pm, Marty wrote: > Perfection! > > http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Wow that's a true work of beauty... The fountains definitely add to the effect. I hope you'll have that built in time for Riv Rally East. Sweet! On Apr 5, 7:54 pm, Marty wrote: > Perfection! > > http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l > > I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. > Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build > will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. > > Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Perfection! http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking mechanism? On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding the Atlantis
Khalid: I've been touring with my Atlantis since 03 & have loaded it in a variety of ways. For me, weight in the front is helpful. All the weight in the back didn't work. Splitting the load into 4 bags & using front low riders is stable. After trying different things over the years, I prefer about 60% in the front, 40% rear for the maxxed out camping load. For a lodging tour, I just use front low riders. I always have an Acorn Boxy Rando bag on & it holds a lot of stuff by itself. Get good stiff racks, Nitto, Tubus, Bruce Gordon, etc. Cheap racks will drive you crazy with 20 lbs of weight on them. Experiment with your own load on your bike to see what works for you. IMHO it's as much about your riding style as where the load is placed. Among my touring buds, some prefer front, some prefer rear, some don't care. It's quite individual. dougP On Apr 5, 8:05 am, Khalid Mateen wrote: > Morning Everyone: > > I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading > but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a > Atlantis? > > Thanks > > K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Too late for either. Been sent back to the manufacturer...posted on VO blog today. Poor threading. On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
It should work fine. Although, I was just thinking today that I've never had a better shifting derailleur than the Deore LX on my Bleriot (8 speed w/friction). Not nearly as cool looking as that XTR but It is so smooth and requires absolutely no thought to get it in the correct gear... (perfect for my brain!). I just stumbled onto an Ebay auction for them with a buy it now of $20...search SHIMANO DEORE LX RD- T661... and bought one for my Rambouilllet...GOOD BYE reverse action! No idea who the seller is, or if it will show up, but it looks legit. On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
Kip: My pre-Cambrian Fisher MTB has a Shimano Deore RD with 7 speed index thumb shifters. The Deore is just that, no other letters. I think it's a low to mid range quality. It works so well I actually leave it in the index mode. The cluster is a 7 speed, 14-32 standard Shimano HG cassette. dougP On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Kip Otteson wrote: > Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and > I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb > shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, > 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the > Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am > thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's > Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on > the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the > process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, > but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 > speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would > work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) > would it work if I just use friction mode? > > Thanks for your insight and opinions. > > Kip Otteson > Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] VO Wingnuts
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) > > Are those the only choices? Maybe someone prefers to use a solid axle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Nathan: What rack is on the pink Saluki? Nice clean look. dougP On Apr 5, 8:09 am, nathan spindel wrote: > Here's my girlfriend's pink Saluki:http://flickr.com/photos/natan/5485711321/ > > She's been enjoying it for commuting and the occasional long ride. > > -nathan > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Pondero wrote: > > > > > Bring on the ladies' bikes! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
My wife loves 20-30 mile recreational rides, preferably with a destination, & doesn't get excited by bikes or bike stuff. BUT it only took a few minutes on a 47 cm Atlantis for her to realize she'd been missing something: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/5316663347/in/set-72157625730541682/ Good to see photos of all these bikes. Hey, that reminds me there are a couple of gals out there who have multiple Rivsso this bike addiction thing is not gender specific. dougP On Apr 5, 10:36 am, Lisa wrote: > OK, I'll come out and join the delurkers. Here (http://tinyurl.com/ > 3wnmv8b) is a picture of my 47 cm Atlantis parked in my office. Peter > White built it up for me last summer. It was his last in-stock > Atlantis frame. > > I ride it pretty much every day, in all weather, for commuting, > touring, and just getting around. I love it, it's great fun to ride > and it fits me better than any other bike I've ever ridden. > > On Apr 5, 10:57 am, TSW wrote: > > > > > It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk.- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) would it work if I just use friction mode? Thanks for your insight and opinions. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] VO Wingnuts
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] bicycle camping on Catalina Island?
Jerry Hersch on ibob list did it, or at least a day ride there. Do you have his email? On 4/5/11, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or > logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful > resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits -- > not sure where to begin. > > I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway from > LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where to > begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome. > > Thanks in advance, > Aaron > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though. Plus I don't like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail riding. As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability. You have to get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a quill stem as well. And the open face plate for bar changes is wonderful, although used rarely. My $.02 On 4/5/11, bfd wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote: >> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think >> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more >> mainstream. > > Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will > sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on > at least a couple of its bikes: > > Roadeo: > http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roadeo.jpg > > Legolas (currently not offered): > http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg > > And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use > threadless. > > I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original > "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his > accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded > headsets and quill stems: > > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html > >>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv >> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for >> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. >> > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1" > threadless with a shim could be an option. Further, how many people > really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover, > unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or > removed. Finally, there are stems that rise. > > Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new > frameset. Good Luck! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Apr 5, 2:32 pm, rperks wrote: > I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it > dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in > Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming > bike. Ok found > ithttps://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/364/original_oct1visus.pdf > > Kind of like a poor man's roadeo or Ramb I think > But the Roadeo can be ordered with a threadless stem: http://www.adventurecorps.com/corpscamp/2010/dvshow2/images/DSC03393.jpg You can also get Rivendell Custom bikes with threadless stems too: http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//2715/rc7.jpg Finally, more than one staffer at Riv uses threadless: Vaughn: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/staff-bikes/50-998 and of course, both of Mark's bikes have them too: http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3603/staff19.jpg http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3690/staffbike6.jpg Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote: > 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think > I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more > mainstream. Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on at least a couple of its bikes: Roadeo: http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roadeo.jpg Legolas (currently not offered): http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use threadless. I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded headsets and quill stems: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html >1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv > thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for > reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1" threadless with a shim could be an option. Further, how many people really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover, unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or removed. Finally, there are stems that rise. Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new frameset. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] bicycle camping on Catalina Island?
Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits -- not sure where to begin. I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway from LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where to begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome. Thanks in advance, Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Hats off to all lurkers posting...female or male. More variety of voices can only enhance Cyclofiend's all-important SNR. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 14:16 -0700, Zaelia wrote: > Members of my club have on occasion asked me about my man. They seemed > quite puzzled by the fact that he doesn't really ride. I guess we do > sort of break the stereotype. When I was younger and a little less > secure about my relationship, I called my then "boyfriend" my > "partner". Some people thought I was gay. I have never liked the > terms "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" when speaking about your "partner" > but don't mind using them for friends of either gender. I like Co- > Habitant. It says it all without complicated details. I guess the Census Bureau's coinage "POSSLQ" never really caught on... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming bike. Ok found it https://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/364/original_oct1visus.pdf Kind of like a poor man's roadeo or Ramb I think Rob On Apr 5, 11:33 am, bfd wrote: > On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:> maybe here : > > >http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-... > > I agree with one of the commenters, I don't understand why it will > have 1" threaded fork/headset. Sorry, but in today's market THREADLESS > headset should be standard. They could still stay with 1" as there > are shims to fit 1.25" stems. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM, William wrote: > 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think > I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more > mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv > thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for > reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. > Well said. Getting them bars up is much simpler on a quill stem (and much simpler to play with later) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
@Thomas: I agree! - "Beautiful bike." @Steve: It is a Selle AnAtomica Titanico LD Watershed Leather - "Nice! Is that a Selle AnAtomica?" @Patrick: It is 650B. Things are a little tight in there, but everything seems to work fine. Would like a little more clearance between the tires and the 45 hammered Honjos - "Very pretty, tho' I see it suffers from the same gap-itis between rack and top of tire as mine did; 650B?" Members of my club have on occasion asked me about my man. They seemed quite puzzled by the fact that he doesn't really ride. I guess we do sort of break the stereotype. When I was younger and a little less secure about my relationship, I called my then "boyfriend" my "partner". Some people thought I was gay. I have never liked the terms "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" when speaking about your "partner" but don't mind using them for friends of either gender. I like Co- Habitant. It says it all without complicated details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)
Steve, I am SO down! I hope to see you and other Riv-Michiganders there! I'll send out a few emails to let the others know. We'll see, if it's just a dirt-road ride, I may decide to bring Turry, the turmeric-colored double-top-tube A. Homer Hilsen. I love that bike. :) Since we're talking about Michigan rides, which sources do you use to find what's going on when in the state? There's a lot of websites I need to check on the regular - do you know of one good source that has all rides on a calendar? Amit, Detroit On Apr 5, 2:34 pm, SteveF wrote: > Congratulations on the new bike! Here's a dirt road ride at the end > of the month that I think would be a perfect adventure for it: > > http://www.mmba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103205 > > Other Michigan area listers welcome too of course! (I'm not sure if > I'm going to go or not but hope to. It will depend on the weather and > my legs.) > > Steve, East Lansing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant. On Apr 5, 1:54 pm, bfd wrote: > On Apr 5, 1:41 pm, William wrote:> "They could still > stay with 1" as there > > are shims to fit 1.25" stems." > > > and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still > > fit threadless stems. > > That's true, but those adapters are alot more bulky than incorporating > a threadless stem in the design. Further, if you want this frame to > attract more riders, threadless is more "modern" and will be more > familiar to younger riders. > > > Also I presume you mean 1.125". > > Thanks, that's right. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Apr 5, 1:41 pm, William wrote: > "They could still stay with 1" as there > are shims to fit 1.25" stems." > > and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still > fit threadless stems. > That's true, but those adapters are alot more bulky than incorporating a threadless stem in the design. Further, if you want this frame to attract more riders, threadless is more "modern" and will be more familiar to younger riders. > Also I presume you mean 1.125". > Thanks, that's right. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or recent Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing literature. The tubing had a nice, clear "ping" when you flicked it with your fingernail, unlike the dull "thud" of lesser steels. (Wish they didn't have those ugly and useless dt shifter bosses, tho' ...) On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, davidfrench wrote: > maybe here : > > > http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-on.html > > > > On Apr 1, 4:59 pm, rcnute wrote: > > True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe? > > > > Ryan > > > > On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :) > > > > > Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info. > > > > > On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216 > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike they > are > > > > > working on together? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
"They could still stay with 1" as there are shims to fit 1.25" stems." and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still fit threadless stems. Also I presume you mean 1.125". On Apr 5, 11:33 am, bfd wrote: > On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:> maybe here : > > >http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-... > > I agree with one of the commenters, I don't understand why it will > have 1" threaded fork/headset. Sorry, but in today's market THREADLESS > headset should be standard. They could still stay with 1" as there > are shims to fit 1.25" stems. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] DiagaBomb Arrival!
No joke! UPS has notified me that my long-awaited Bombadil has been delivered! I'll be home in a couple hours, and will document the de- boxing via Flickr soon after. Everyone will get to see it tonight! Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding the Atlantis
I have no experience with the Atlantis, but it's certainly on my bucket list. If anyone has a used 62-4 frame in any condition; I'm interested. That said, I agree with Jim, that it is easy to overstate this front vs rear loading thing. In 30+ years of riding I haven't found all that much difference. I have tried to add weight to the front end of too quick bikes, but it did not help or hurt handling. I have a strong preference for carrying as much stuff as possible above my fenders so prefer HB bags and even large (Nelson LF) saddle bags. I know I can get enough weight - like computers and stuff - into a saddle bag to noticeably affect handling, but I tend to prefer that to arriving home with muddy panniers. Michael On Apr 5, 11:05 am, Khalid Mateen wrote: > Morning Everyone: > > I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading > but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a > Atlantis? > > Thanks > > K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)
Congratulations on the new bike! Here's a dirt road ride at the end of the month that I think would be a perfect adventure for it: http://www.mmba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103205 Other Michigan area listers welcome too of course! (I'm not sure if I'm going to go or not but hope to. It will depend on the weather and my legs.) Steve, East Lansing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote: > maybe here : > > http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-... > I agree with one of the commenters, I don't understand why it will have 1" threaded fork/headset. Sorry, but in today's market THREADLESS headset should be standard. They could still stay with 1" as there are shims to fit 1.25" stems. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riding the Atlantis
on 4/5/11 8:05 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote: I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a Atlantis? For the best answers to this, I would search back through the archives - I know there have been several threads on loading the Atlantis (and other Riv models). I don't have ready access to a specific search, but it should be pretty findable. Regarding the design, I'm not at all sure that I agree with the base assumption. While certainly there are bicycle design choices that favor handling with heavy front loads, there are enough riders who balance load or front load their Rivendells to demonstrate the flexibility of the RBW models. Carrying cargo on the front end of a bike is one thing, putting food and some gear in a rando bag is another. Personally, of late I've been flipping back and forth between the Hilsen (Country Bag aft) and the Quickbeam (L'il Loafer-ized currently, but often with a small rando bag near the bow), and find it more of a correction to go to the Hilsen than back to the 'Beam. And then a couple miles go by and I'm watching hawks and enjoying the ride... ;^) - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
i should have posted THIS photo, as this is the way i have the Roadeo set up now. bars are lower now and rotated a bit more forward. fit feels really good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848401@N03/5358488808/in/set-72157623773112005 -kps -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Liesl, i would love to see your clear-coat Proto Bleriot! please post photos. i mostly 'lurk' here, as well, but i always enjoy reading the postings by everyone. i have a clear-coat Rivendell Roadeo (57cm) that i'm quite thankful to be riding. a photo of it can be seen here http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848401@N03/4734024586/in/set-72157623773112005 kps > Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki > and my 2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's > Quickbeam. > > Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will. > > fondly, > Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
OK, I'll come out and join the delurkers. Here (http://tinyurl.com/ 3wnmv8b) is a picture of my 47 cm Atlantis parked in my office. Peter White built it up for me last summer. It was his last in-stock Atlantis frame. I ride it pretty much every day, in all weather, for commuting, touring, and just getting around. I love it, it's great fun to ride and it fits me better than any other bike I've ever ridden. On Apr 5, 10:57 am, TSW wrote: > It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?
Can't speak for the Laken specifically, but I had the same rattle problem with bottle cages (Nitto 'R', Blackburn, Specialized, you-name- it) with Klean Kanteen bottles. I found these http://www.logocoolies.com/bottle-bag-insulator.php laying around the house - they're vendor give-away insulators and they work perfectly. Not only do they cinch up tightly around the bottle neck and keep the bottle from rattling, but they also make the bottle fit the cage more snugly - less likely to bounce out. On Mar 14, 12:01 pm, Forrest wrote: > For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close > proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW > tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty > solid/silent in those? Thanks. -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
After lunch on the Cinderella, I spotted an Atlantis heading north and my bright red Saluki enjoyed traveling in company with a cousin bike for a few miles. The Atlantis was hanging out with a like-colored Bianchi. Sue Estey On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:38 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > Or as Velouria says, the Co-Habitant? :-) > I think it is a generational thing. I've always referred to my significant others as 'the girl' (regardless of age) and I've always been referred to by them as 'the boy'. I don't think of it as diminutive or derisive at all. I think of it as a shortening of something like 'the girl in question'. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Or as Velouria says, the Co-Habitant? :-) On 4/5/11, TSW wrote: > It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. A reason > I like visiting places like Lovely Bicycle (today's post is quite a > propos: http://tinyurl.com/4xwsdyk) > > Speaking of the term "the wife," is it anything like "the hubby?" > which in places like Yelp you'll find quite often, which seems more to > be a kind of post-feminist Gen-Y thing. > > What male cyclist with a female partner doesn't want to get her more > into cycling? Making a place more inclusive, either online, or at the > bikeshop or on the road, can only help. > > TSW > > On Apr 4, 1:24 pm, Liesl wrote: >> Good to hear from Rivendell Chicas. As an avid-reader-but-seldom- >> poster of the RBW Owners Bunch, I often lament that there is such a >> limited involvement from women (myself sadly included). Anne, yours >> is one of the few women's voices I see regularly, and so it's been sad >> to see that no one has responded to your post. When I read frequent >> references to things like "the wife," while I don't assume it is meant >> to be a put-down, it does contribute to making me feel that I am >> entering a male space. It's so often used when men are choosing and >> buying bikes for their women... I have loved few things more than >> learning about bike design, parts, and outfitting myself so that I can >> ride all year round here in Minnesota. What an adventure of the heart, >> spirit, and body. >> >> So, perhaps there are folks out there who have the opposite problem of >> big guys' bikes with their double top tubes and diagatubes and so >> forth, that seek recommendations for the little bikes, ones that are >> in the 48 to 52 cm range. For example, I've struggled with saddle bag/ >> rack combinations for bikes with not much room between the saddle and >> the fender! I found that Mark's Rack works rwonderfully because its >> height and distance from the saddle are infinitely adjustable. I've >> used it with my old Baggins Adam (the just-smaller-than-the-Hoss for >> you old timers). >> >> Also, at a recent--and really enjoyable--visit to Riv HQ, the women's >> small WoolyWarm vest and button-up, which I believe at one time were >> boasted in the ever memorable e-less catalog to be appropriate for >> Baffin Island, fits a 5'2", slightly plump, 50+ year old woman, and >> the little Hunq is a blast for the same sized/aged person. >> >> Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki >> and my 2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's >> Quickbeam. >> >> Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will. >> >> fondly, >> Liesl >> >> On Apr 2, 9:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >> >> >> > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among >> > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a >> > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color >> > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other >> > Rivendell chicas. >> >> > -- >> > -- Anne Paulson >> >> > My hovercraft is full of eels > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. A reason I like visiting places like Lovely Bicycle (today's post is quite a propos: http://tinyurl.com/4xwsdyk) Speaking of the term "the wife," is it anything like "the hubby?" which in places like Yelp you'll find quite often, which seems more to be a kind of post-feminist Gen-Y thing. What male cyclist with a female partner doesn't want to get her more into cycling? Making a place more inclusive, either online, or at the bikeshop or on the road, can only help. TSW On Apr 4, 1:24 pm, Liesl wrote: > Good to hear from Rivendell Chicas. As an avid-reader-but-seldom- > poster of the RBW Owners Bunch, I often lament that there is such a > limited involvement from women (myself sadly included). Anne, yours > is one of the few women's voices I see regularly, and so it's been sad > to see that no one has responded to your post. When I read frequent > references to things like "the wife," while I don't assume it is meant > to be a put-down, it does contribute to making me feel that I am > entering a male space. It's so often used when men are choosing and > buying bikes for their women... I have loved few things more than > learning about bike design, parts, and outfitting myself so that I can > ride all year round here in Minnesota. What an adventure of the heart, > spirit, and body. > > So, perhaps there are folks out there who have the opposite problem of > big guys' bikes with their double top tubes and diagatubes and so > forth, that seek recommendations for the little bikes, ones that are > in the 48 to 52 cm range. For example, I've struggled with saddle bag/ > rack combinations for bikes with not much room between the saddle and > the fender! I found that Mark's Rack works rwonderfully because its > height and distance from the saddle are infinitely adjustable. I've > used it with my old Baggins Adam (the just-smaller-than-the-Hoss for > you old timers). > > Also, at a recent--and really enjoyable--visit to Riv HQ, the women's > small WoolyWarm vest and button-up, which I believe at one time were > boasted in the ever memorable e-less catalog to be appropriate for > Baffin Island, fits a 5'2", slightly plump, 50+ year old woman, and > the little Hunq is a blast for the same sized/aged person. > > Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki > and my 2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's > Quickbeam. > > Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will. > > fondly, > Liesl > > On Apr 2, 9:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > > > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > > Rivendell chicas. > > > -- > > -- Anne Paulson > > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riding the Atlantis
Morning Everyone: I know that the Atlantis is design for rear loading more than front loading but do any of you guys fight with the instability of front loading on a Atlantis? Thanks K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?
I've tried the VO Classic, the VO Moderniste and King cages with varying degrees of success in securing my Kleen Canteens. The Modernistes seem to be the weekest and require a squeeze every now and again to hold the canteens quietly. The King cages work the best for me. On Mar 14, 1:01 pm, Forrest wrote: > For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close > proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW > tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty > solid/silent in those? Thanks. -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
The Pencil, my Riv custom. Designed as a rando bike, it's going to be retrofit with Belleville bars and inverse levers for more of a Frenchie city bike look this year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157594300251903/with/4572614843/ Lesli Larson Eugene, OR On Apr 5, 9:17 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Very pretty, tho' I see it suffers from the same gap-itis between rack and > top of tire as mine did; 650B? The pink Saluki also looks nice. > > Odd that listwomen have such nice bikes but post so little. (Or maybe some > men post too much -- save that for later.) > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Zaelia wrote: > > I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to > > say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only > > briefly)... > > > Here is a picture of my AHH... > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ > > > At one year old, this bike has been pure joy for me to ride. Before > > AHH I was primarily a commuter/utility cyclist - riding my mid-90s > > Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike. Since AHH, I've joined a casual > > bicycle club (riding most Sundays anywhere from 60-90 km), ridden the > > 100 km route in two populaires, ridden 122 km in the Whistler > > GranFondo, and commuted to work and around town. I ♥ my AHH! > > > My favourite comment this weekend from a man walking on the street was > > "That's the first Rivendell I've seen in this town," to which I > > replied "there are a few." There are quite a few, actually, but the > > sight of one is still rare enough for those who know a Rivendell to > > get excited. > > > Jodi > > Vancouver, BC > > > On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > > > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > > > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > > > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > > > Rivendell chicas. > > > > -- > > > -- Anne Paulson > > > > My hovercraft is full of eels > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Very pretty, tho' I see it suffers from the same gap-itis between rack and top of tire as mine did; 650B? The pink Saluki also looks nice. Odd that listwomen have such nice bikes but post so little. (Or maybe some men post too much -- save that for later.) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Zaelia wrote: > I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to > say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only > briefly)... > > Here is a picture of my AHH... > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ > > At one year old, this bike has been pure joy for me to ride. Before > AHH I was primarily a commuter/utility cyclist - riding my mid-90s > Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike. Since AHH, I've joined a casual > bicycle club (riding most Sundays anywhere from 60-90 km), ridden the > 100 km route in two populaires, ridden 122 km in the Whistler > GranFondo, and commuted to work and around town. I ♥ my AHH! > > My favourite comment this weekend from a man walking on the street was > "That's the first Rivendell I've seen in this town," to which I > replied "there are a few." There are quite a few, actually, but the > sight of one is still rare enough for those who know a Rivendell to > get excited. > > Jodi > Vancouver, BC > > On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > > Rivendell chicas. > > > > -- > > -- Anne Paulson > > > > My hovercraft is full of eels > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 08:35 -0700, Zaelia wrote: > I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to > say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only > briefly)... > > Here is a picture of my AHH... > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ Nice! Is that a Selle AnAtomica? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Beautiful bike. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zaelia Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:35 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only briefly)... Here is a picture of my AHH... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ At one year old, this bike has been pure joy for me to ride. Before AHH I was primarily a commuter/utility cyclist - riding my mid-90s Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike. Since AHH, I've joined a casual bicycle club (riding most Sundays anywhere from 60-90 km), ridden the 100 km route in two populaires, ridden 122 km in the Whistler GranFondo, and commuted to work and around town. I ♥ my AHH! My favourite comment this weekend from a man walking on the street was "That's the first Rivendell I've seen in this town," to which I replied "there are a few." There are quite a few, actually, but the sight of one is still rare enough for those who know a Rivendell to get excited. Jodi Vancouver, BC On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
I'm also a lurker. I haven't posted simply because I've not much to say, but this thread is bringing me out of the shadows (if only briefly)... Here is a picture of my AHH... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcaddick/5587292295/ At one year old, this bike has been pure joy for me to ride. Before AHH I was primarily a commuter/utility cyclist - riding my mid-90s Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike. Since AHH, I've joined a casual bicycle club (riding most Sundays anywhere from 60-90 km), ridden the 100 km route in two populaires, ridden 122 km in the Whistler GranFondo, and commuted to work and around town. I ♥ my AHH! My favourite comment this weekend from a man walking on the street was "That's the first Rivendell I've seen in this town," to which I replied "there are a few." There are quite a few, actually, but the sight of one is still rare enough for those who know a Rivendell to get excited. Jodi Vancouver, BC On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Here's my girlfriend's pink Saluki: http://flickr.com/photos/natan/5485711321/ She's been enjoying it for commuting and the occasional long ride. -nathan On Apr 5, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Pondero wrote: > Bring on the ladies' bikes! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Bring on the ladies' bikes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?
Another vote for the King Iris. Have them on my Sam Hillborne. Luckily, my LBS (Hiawatha Cyclery) usually has them in stock. The inexpensive Planet Bike cages seem to do a good job of holding Kleen Kanteen bottles without excess noise. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 4, 11:37 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > +1 for the King Iris cages. Just bought them last week, and very > happy with them. Work great w/ 23oz metal bottles and are slightly > bendable. Good stuff. FWIW, I got 'em from these guys on > ebay:http://tinyurl.com/4xa9cdz > > On 4/4/11, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > > > > > Just a personal opinion, but I don't think the Nitto cages are > > particularly sturdy. Very handsome, and obviously well made, but not > > very tough. I've had two of them on my Riv Road and took them off, > > after bending one somewhat askew when I shouldered my bike to carry it > > up some stairs. At the time, I was using a conventional large size > > plastic water bottle (not a Klean Kanteen). I think the larger size > > of the Kleen Kanteen (27 oz.) would be particularly ill suited for a > > Nitto cage, although the 18 oz. bottle would probably work > > sufficiently well. > > > At this point, I'm using a classic Specialites T..A. steel water > > bottle cage, which is sturdy as all git out, and another T.A. cage > > that was originally marketed for the "Randonneur" aluminum water > > bottles that T.A. made. These cages are squarish in configuration, > > and held the aluminum bottle that was either 750ml or 1000ml in size. > > The original water bottle had a "Grolsch" beer type cap. Just by > > luck, I purchase a couple of Laken Prisma water bottles from REI last > > year that are virtually the same form factor and have a sport cap, > > with a capacity of 1000 ml > > > Jim Cloud > > Tucson, AZ > > > On Apr 4, 6:24 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > >> I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me > >> a replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year > >> ago). > > >> During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked > >> with Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty. > > >> Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than > >> others. > > >> --Eric N > >> Sent from the iPad 2 > > >> On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt wrote: > > >> > I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages > >> >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage... > >> > and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles. Granted I may have > >> > squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy. > > >> > I just picked up two King Cage Iris > >> > cageshttp://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg > >> > and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior. Less > >> > welds. Stronger looking welds. Thicker tubing. They appear to hold > >> > the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic > >> > cycling waterbottles VERY well. > > >> > On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest wrote: > >> >> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close > >> >> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW > >> >> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty > >> >> solid/silent in those? Thanks. -- Forrest > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
