[RBW] Rust inside frame?
Dear RBWers, I have a Saluki (2007) which normally is fendered but not at the moment because of an overestimation of my mountainbiking skills and the selection of an inappropriate trail resulting in an uncomfortable encounter with a gorse bush (do you have them in the USA? I'm in Ireland) and a rock. This left about 20 splinters in my hand and my fender bust. Of course that day I was only going for a short spin and so had not bothered to bring tools with me (what could possibly go wrong within 5 miles of home?) and had to bash the fender with a stone to get it to stop rubbing the tyre so I could get home. Fender beyond repair. Aaaanyway ... I went for a 4 hour spin in the pouring rain a couple of weeks ago in my now-unfendered Saluki. Solid downpour for four hours but great fun on the ride. Yesterday when I went to put the new fenders on I noticed a line of deposited rust coming from the tiny hole at the bottom of the seat stay where water had obviously flowed out during the wet ride. It seems that the inside of the frame may be rusty. What should I do? Thanks for all advice, Damian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rust inside frame?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Damian damian.jack...@gmail.com wrote: Dear RBWers, I have a Saluki (2007) which normally is fendered but not at the moment because of an overestimation of my mountainbiking skills and the selection of an inappropriate trail resulting in an uncomfortable encounter with a gorse bush (do you have them in the USA? I'm in Ireland) and a rock. This left about 20 splinters in my hand and my fender bust. Of course that day I was only going for a short spin and so had not bothered to bring tools with me (what could possibly go wrong within 5 miles of home?) and had to bash the fender with a stone to get it to stop rubbing the tyre so I could get home. Fender beyond repair. Aaaanyway ... I went for a 4 hour spin in the pouring rain a couple of weeks ago in my now-unfendered Saluki. Solid downpour for four hours but great fun on the ride. Yesterday when I went to put the new fenders on I noticed a line of deposited rust coming from the tiny hole at the bottom of the seat stay where water had obviously flowed out during the wet ride. It seems that the inside of the frame may be rusty. What should I do? Thanks for all advice, Are you SURE it is rust? FrameSaver- frequently applied to rivs, is orange/brown in color but has a VERY distinctive odor about it. Make sure you saw rust and not framesaver. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rust inside frame?
Right, maybe it is, although I didn't notice a smell. Unfortunately I then cleaned the frame so I can't try to smell it now... They should make framesaver a different colour to rust! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ycM6KHq6XZ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rust inside frame?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Damian damian.jack...@gmail.com wrote: Right, maybe it is, although I didn't notice a smell. Unfortunately I then cleaned the frame so I can't try to smell it now... They should make framesaver a different colour to rust! Framesaver smells, to me, very sweet. A cloying, almost nauseating smell. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rust inside frame?
Pull the seatpost and hang the bike upside down at various angles to drain any water that may be inside. If you have the tools, you may also pull the crank/BB to check for rust. Grease the seatpost and BB threads liberally before reinstallation. Internal rust is usually more of a theoretical concern than a real-world problem. A thin film of rust on the inside of your frame is normal and doesn't mean your frame is going to die at an early age. Thick rust deposits around the BB are usually a sign of longterm neglect of basic maintenance, but are probably treatable. I don't generally bother with frame saver on my own bikes because it adds too much weight, but I usually pre-emptively address potential customer panic by fogging every frame/bike we sell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hi3Ij4XW9PAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
Thanks Jim, Will do. Damian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sQkm6SySAyUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives?
Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives?
I like the Sport Hill XC pant; I'm pretty sure Peter White sells them. Cheers! lyle On 20 February 2012 10:53, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives?
Patrick: I ride in them 3-4 days/wk, usually with the Australian wool boxers under them (sometimes with a Rapha liner instead). I think they're decent, and I don't think they're like long johns (if I understand what you mean by that). They feel like fairly thick (definitely opaque, and quite warm even in the 20s), fairly tight (tight enough so they don't bunch up, but loose enough to be easy to just pull on) tights. Plenty of coverage -- they pull up quite high in back. I like them a lot. But I'm no fashion plate, that's for sure. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:53 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives? Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SimpleOne in progess and a question
That's a beautiful bike, but I have to throw my two cents in on the bar and stem combo. Ack. Sorry, that's just funky looking. Are you sure you want to be THAT high up? Beauty's in the eye of the yadda yadda, but ouch. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-SiCZxW2SAAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] SimpleOne in progess and a question
It's coming down some (and I'll level the saddle, too), but I think the visual is actually more adversely affected by the fact that the levers are way too high -- when they come down, the comfort level will actually be better, I think, and the look will definitely not be quite as loony. I DID caution that the bike was in progress, guys... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brian feltovich Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:33 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] SimpleOne in progess and a question That's a beautiful bike, but I have to throw my two cents in on the bar and stem combo. Ack. Sorry, that's just funky looking. Are you sure you want to be THAT high up? Beauty's in the eye of the yadda yadda, but ouch. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-SiCZxW2SAAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives?
I wear Wooly warm tights over wool boxers or sucking tech fabric boxers and like them a lot. Below 40F, I wear MUSA pants over them Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sent: Mon Feb 20 09:53:06 CST 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives? Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
Jim, Now you tell me. I treated the frame I bought from Forrest that he bought from you. If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little spray weigh? Jay On Feb 20, 5:32 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Pull the seatpost and hang the bike upside down at various angles to drain any water that may be inside. If you have the tools, you may also pull the crank/BB to check for rust. Grease the seatpost and BB threads liberally before reinstallation. Internal rust is usually more of a theoretical concern than a real-world problem. A thin film of rust on the inside of your frame is normal and doesn't mean your frame is going to die at an early age. Thick rust deposits around the BB are usually a sign of longterm neglect of basic maintenance, but are probably treatable. I don't generally bother with frame saver on my own bikes because it adds too much weight, but I usually pre-emptively address potential customer panic by fogging every frame/bike we sell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
Jim, Now you tell me. I treated the frame I bought from Forrest that he bought from you. If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little spray weigh? Jay On Feb 20, 5:32 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Pull the seatpost and hang the bike upside down at various angles to drain any water that may be inside. If you have the tools, you may also pull the crank/BB to check for rust. Grease the seatpost and BB threads liberally before reinstallation. Internal rust is usually more of a theoretical concern than a real-world problem. A thin film of rust on the inside of your frame is normal and doesn't mean your frame is going to die at an early age. Thick rust deposits around the BB are usually a sign of longterm neglect of basic maintenance, but are probably treatable. I don't generally bother with frame saver on my own bikes because it adds too much weight, but I usually pre-emptively address potential customer panic by fogging every frame/bike we sell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: Jim, Now you tell me. I treated the frame I bought from Forrest that he bought from you. If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little spray weigh? Mass is preserved. At the MOST the weight you could add is the weight of the whole can of frame saver. But you must subtract the weight of the can itself. it's trivial. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SimpleOne in progess and a question
Beautiful bike. Makes me anxious to start on my SimpleOne build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FGGqhuz7HkIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Rivendell 64 cm custom frame remains for sale. Price reduction.
Where were you last year? uugh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/97cz5_RUYHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sackville Grid-Grey Mudflaps for sale, Brand New
Bought these off a lister but getting a green slickersack and I am a self confessed bag matcher and cant run two styles on one bike, I know I know, sad stuff. Will sell for what I paid, 18 bucks shipped for the pair, brand new. Thanks. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
Two! http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an M-12. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vTU5J1CZeGUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Short Trip to RBWHQ
I really like the looks of the bulmoose bubar on that Bombadil. Thanks for the photo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bombadil and AHH
Great bikes and great pictures. Appears the two of you are really having a blast! On Feb 19, 4:49 am, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RBW, I've finally put the finishing touches together, so here's a link to a few photos of my 68 cm Bombadil. http://flic.kr/p/bvSB28 Scroll through to see some photos of Cat's 54 cm Homer. You'll also find a couple of traditional GGRBWOB full-frame, drive-side shots for your enjoyment! The Bombadil is great. So far it's only really been used for commuting, although we plan to tour on these bikes. Such a nice ride, it feels stable but not in the least bit slow. I weigh 100–110 Kg, and the most I've loaded it up with would be about 12 Kg (some in basket, some in SaddleSack) so far, and there wasn't the slightest problem.There was no difference in handling that I could detect. I can't wait to put some more Kms on it! I'd like to thank the list members whose bikes have inspired these builds. In particular, the photos and descriptions of Amit's, Kelly's, René's and a couple of other Bombadils on Flickr whose parentage I'm not certain of have been most helpful. Cheers! Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
Joe: Nice to hear from/of you! Thanks for the plug too. Love to see you around on that weekend, the GAP is certainly what the NYT article (http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/travel/escapes/23passage.html? pagewanted=all) suggested. I'm working hard against the constraints of employment to be there the whole time. ANDY Pittsburgh. Maybe I ought visit y'all for this GAP ride. I 3 PGH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
At the risk of jacking the OP's thread...is there any benefit to plugging the vent holes on the fork legs and junction of the seat and chain stays? Think I read somewhere that beeswax would do the trick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne in progess and a question
The bars aren't even all that high. Don't worry if your bike doesn't precisely match the standards of internet orthodoxy. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
I think you want to leave those open, so any water that does get in, can drain out... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SPiqm-UYHOsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
Yeah, the frame needs to breathe, some surface rust inside is ok, you just dont want pooling water On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I think you want to leave those open, so any water that does get in, can drain out... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SPiqm-UYHOsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne in progess and a question
I am a self-confessed high handlebar guy, you will get guff from the racer boy set out there who think anyone not riding with thier head below thier read is not a real rider but do what is comfortable for you. Love the look of the simple one, wish I could convince my wife to let me add another to the stable... On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: The bars aren't even all that high. Don't worry if your bike doesn't precisely match the standards of internet orthodoxy. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
well, now that I know the answer to that, I'll probably get one :) On 20 February 2012 13:17, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Two! http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an M-12. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vTU5J1CZeGUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
Re: frame saver adds too much weight I often say absurd things for comedic effect. I have to remember that absurdity is often difficult to distinguish from the things that genuinely concern some people who are into bikes! Joking aside, the question of frame saver weight has been asked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LZpVm6bBAY8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Terminological Inexactitude
There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose their meaning. “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than about half a mile apart. “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or is that “forgiving” steel tubing? It bet it’s not too forgiving if someone get whacked on the forehead with it. Would you be forgiven for that?) You could turn it around and call it “acute angle” or “sharp angle” geometry, but that doesn’t sound very relaxing. Plus for someone riding a time trial bike, they may be more relaxed with a more “open” geometry ( i.e. a steeper seat tube angle. ) I guess the ultimate “relaxed” geometry is the recumbent bike, which indeed is a relaxed position, until the first time you try to ride up a hill and you immediately want to go back to your more uptight upright bike. “Quick” geometry, which tends to be another way of saying a short chainstay. This makes the bike turn quicker, but it tends to get muddled with thinking that the bike will go quicker or faster, which of course makes no sense at all. ( Just think of boats and drag racing cars, the fastest ones are long and narrow, so instead of “quick” geometry you could call it “slow” or “meandering” geometry…once again, how can geometry be “quick?” ) Oh, I almost forgot about quick steering...why do I always want my steering to be as slow as possible? If you read the reviews of some bicycles they are almost as bereft of meaning as one of those fine wine descriptions...eager, aggressive, responsive, nuanced, what's next, insouciant? “Supple” tires….no comment. There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking about? It’s a holiday… -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
Sorry for the typo, my computer was trying to tell me how to spell rando. Not impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M5F4kzv6p9cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
I would have guessed two, but that's beside the point. Carrying ANY growlers is the point! On Feb 20, 12:52 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the typo, my computer was trying to tell me how to spell rando. Not impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Terminological Inexactitude
I love it. All of it. Especially the part about quick steering; I myself have never had a good experience where quick steering is required. As far as supple tires go...in my mind, this term is reserved only for describing leather and, well, let's just say skin. I have a friend who used to cringe at two words: supple and moist. I still cringe a little when a tire is described as supple. It's a little too sexy for a bike tire. On Feb 20, 12:43 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose their meaning. “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than about half a mile apart. “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or is that “forgiving” steel tubing? It bet it’s not too forgiving if someone get whacked on the forehead with it. Would you be forgiven for that?) You could turn it around and call it “acute angle” or “sharp angle” geometry, but that doesn’t sound very relaxing. Plus for someone riding a time trial bike, they may be more relaxed with a more “open” geometry ( i.e. a steeper seat tube angle. ) I guess the ultimate “relaxed” geometry is the recumbent bike, which indeed is a relaxed position, until the first time you try to ride up a hill and you immediately want to go back to your more uptight upright bike. “Quick” geometry, which tends to be another way of saying a short chainstay. This makes the bike turn quicker, but it tends to get muddled with thinking that the bike will go quicker or faster, which of course makes no sense at all. ( Just think of boats and drag racing cars, the fastest ones are long and narrow, so instead of “quick” geometry you could call it “slow” or “meandering” geometry…once again, how can geometry be “quick?” ) Oh, I almost forgot about quick steering...why do I always want my steering to be as slow as possible? If you read the reviews of some bicycles they are almost as bereft of meaning as one of those fine wine descriptions...eager, aggressive, responsive, nuanced, what's next, insouciant? “Supple” tires….no comment. There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking about? It’s a holiday… -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Terminological Inexactitude
The words are weird. The one that always gets me is the widespread use of the word bombproof. People like everything on their bike to be bombproof, frame, tires, wheels, etc. I have been riding a long time but have yet to ever run over a bomb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6a4nBqvOEHkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rust inside frame?
But what if you use carbon-based frame saver and a Titanium spray can? On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Re: frame saver adds too much weight I often say absurd things for comedic effect. I have to remember that absurdity is often difficult to distinguish from the things that genuinely concern some people who are into bikes! Joking aside, the question of frame saver weight has been asked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Terminological Inexactitude
I forgot about bombproof. This is often used in reference to tents as well, although if I were being bombed I think a tent would be the last place I would go. And I forgot one of my favourites, the laid-back seatpost. It sounds like the hippy of seatposts, relaxed, non-aggressive. Probably quite forgiving too. ( I actually have one of these on my bike, just knowing it is there puts me in a mellower mood. ) :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Seattle CL: 59cm Romulus
Not mine but happy to liaise if needed! http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2861273352.html Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
Growlers are great, but some times you just have to commit! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406328083/in/photostream/ :-) On 2/20/12, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: I would have guessed two, but that's beside the point. Carrying ANY growlers is the point! On Feb 20, 12:52 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the typo, my computer was trying to tell me how to spell rando. Not impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Jimmy Carter
On a bike. Not just any bike. http://www.thebicyclestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jimmy_carter_riv.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VyVv0w3MJC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jimmy Carter
That is a very old picture On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: On a bike. Not just any bike. http://www.thebicyclestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jimmy_carter_riv.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VyVv0w3MJC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jimmy Carter
Rumored to have at least one Rivendell mixte as well! On 2/20/12, Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com wrote: That is a very old picture On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: On a bike. Not just any bike. http://www.thebicyclestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jimmy_carter_riv.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VyVv0w3MJC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jimmy Carter
Yep, here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24103159@N08/3360339647/ On 2/20/12, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Rumored to have at least one Rivendell mixte as well! On 2/20/12, Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com wrote: That is a very old picture On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: On a bike. Not just any bike. http://www.thebicyclestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jimmy_carter_riv.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VyVv0w3MJC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Seattle CL: 59cm Romulus
Those are nice bikes! On 2/20/12, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Not mine but happy to liaise if needed! http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2861273352.html Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jimmy Carter
Yes that picture has been around for a while. But kinda cool to be reminded of it... fenderlines be damned, that's a nice bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EJjXByVtTc0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bombadil and AHH
Great bikes and setups! Congratulations! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne in progess and a question
I would go with cork bar tape - no shellac. I did the shellac thing on my Quickbeam. Matched the saddle really well. But it turned out to be a maintenance nightmare. Subsequently, Mark turned me on to just cork bar tape. Advantages: 1) Cleans up really easy with water and dish soap. 2) Never needs to be renewed (ala Clear or Amber Shellac) 3) It's more grippy than shellac'ed bar tape Disadvantages: ...I can't think of any Thanks, Corwin On Feb 19, 2:36 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: SimpleOne build coming along, pics here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157629391118347/ But what color bar tape? Newbaum's eggplant with clear shellac, Newbaum's maroon with clear shellac, or cork bar tape with amber? Thanks for any suggestions. Tom -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne in progess and a question
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote: I would go with cork bar tape - no shellac. I did the shellac thing on my Quickbeam. Matched the saddle really well. But it turned out to be a maintenance nightmare. Subsequently, Mark turned me on to just cork bar tape. Advantages: 1) Cleans up really easy with water and dish soap. 2) Never needs to be renewed (ala Clear or Amber Shellac) 3) It's more grippy than shellac'ed bar tape Disadvantages: ...I can't think of any Thanks, I agree about the cork bar tape being nice. If you're careful it matches the sidewalls of your tires, too :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics
Aussie tights. I wear them every day in the winter under MUSA shorts, no underwear. Warm in the cold, not too hot, soft, dry quickly, not too tight. The crotch wears out after awhile. On 2/20/12, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: = Today's Topic Summary = Group: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics - How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold? [3 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/101660bd4206554c - Terminological Inexactitude [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/700578867cceb42d - Rust inside frame? [10 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/b507fd74a6b05ed0 - SimpleOne in progess and a question [5 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/e60bea25c65a896a - East Coast Rivendells / BOBs [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c18f178e40eadb42 - A Short Trip to RBWHQ [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/227e26b78e448d85 - New Bombadil and AHH [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/2e4775ed7aaa5bf1 - Sackville Grid-Grey Mudflaps for sale, Brand New [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c6f0fa44fad81860 - My Rivendell 64 cm custom frame remains for sale. Price reduction. [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/a64e7a89096c8a79 - Aussie tights? Alternatives? [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/51e32001a3a5ceb4 = Topic: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold? Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/101660bd4206554c = -- 1 of 3 -- From: Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com Date: Feb 20 10:17AM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/65789950273935bd Two! http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an M-12. -- 2 of 3 -- From: Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com Date: Feb 20 01:35PM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/dd64ca4452bc12d3 well, now that I know the answer to that, I'll probably get one :) -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- 3 of 3 -- From: Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com Date: Feb 20 10:52AM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/d7a7fa3b93789133 Sorry for the typo, my computer was trying to tell me how to spell rando. Not impressed. = Topic: Terminological Inexactitude Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/700578867cceb42d = -- 1 of 1 -- From: David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca Date: Feb 20 10:43AM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/84601a06aa2adda6 There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose their meaning. “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than about half a mile apart. “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or is that “forgiving”
Re: [RBW] Terminological Inexactitude
Well, I may know or think I know, what you are talking about, but most importantly do you? You left out the PLUSH handling off the Bosco! -JmD My theory is that great bikes are pretty much magic. Start throwing terms like that around and the real trouble will start. On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:43 AM, David T. wrote: There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking about? It’s a holiday… -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB roadie rivvy 54/55cm
Hello all, Before I pull the trigger on a new Roadeo frameset (I think I about have convinced myself to go for it) I thought I might check here for any stray Rams/Roms/roadies etc. I am looking to buy a 54 or 55cm (79cm PBH) complete bike or frame/ fork. 700c wheels. Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Aussie tights? Alternatives?
I have the aussies in size M and I have found them quite comfortable - Usually I wear then over padded bike shorts with a MEC bike knicker over them. I have been comfortable in a range of 28 to 50 degrees in sometimes sunny Portland OR. They are neither too tight or too loose - they don't bag at the knees - they do have a generous rise in the back - no plumber's butt with these (no offense to any trades persons ;-) I am 5'11'' 185 lbs (or so) and ride a 65 Hilsen. +1 On Feb 20, 9:02 am, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: I wear Wooly warm tights over wool boxers or sucking tech fabric boxers and like them a lot. Below 40F, I wear MUSA pants over them Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sent: Mon Feb 20 09:53:06 CST 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives? Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?
Now this is worthwhile cycling related information! On Feb 20, 12:17 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Two! http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an M-12. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Terminological Inexactitude
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:55 -0800, jimD wrote: Well, I may know or think I know, what you are talking about, but most importantly do you? You left out the PLUSH handling off the Bosco! Now there's a name that brings back memories! Oh, I love Bosco! That's the drink for me! Chocolate flavored Bosco Is mighty good for me. Mommy puts it in my milk For extra energy. Bosco gives me iron And sunshine vitamin D. Oh, I love Bosco! That's the drink for me! But that's not the way /we/ sang it, oh no! Our version went like this: + I hate Bosco It's not the drink for me My mommy put it in my milk To try to poison me One day I fooled Mommy I put some in her tea And now I have no mommy To try to poison me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jimmy Carter
Note the vintage Shimano Deore thumbshifters... NICE TOUCH, JIMMA!!! On Feb 20, 3:55 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that picture has been around for a while. But kinda cool to be reminded of it... fenderlines be damned, that's a nice bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: stuff....
-Shimano RSX triple crank 46/36/26 170 or 175 lengths includes rebuilt cartridge BB...$65 shipped -RSX 7 speed Brifters. triple or double $85 shipped -RSX front derailer 28.6...$18 shipped -RSX long cage rear derailer$25 shipped -dual pivot short reach brakes. with like new pads. i can substitute Tektro 47-57 reach calipers if you require a longer reach caliper. recessed bolts$27 shipped everything indexed well. clean and in good shape. take all the above for $190 shipped 6 and 7cm tall Technomics. 26.0 clamp.good used condition. $40 shipped each Thompson post. 26.8. all black. no set back. uncut. 30cm of total usable length. $40 shipped Acorn small front/rear bag. Olive color. unused. sells for $69 + shipping. $70 shipped Sugino XD2 175mm triple crankset. crown logo. $50 shipped for cranks only. you have choice of 3 non-ramped/pinned rings for $25 additional: 48/44/42/38/36/34/32/28/24 Sugino XD2 175 compact double 110 BCD crank arms only. modern 9 speed era. $45 shipped Nitto Moustache Bar. 26.0 clamp. heat treated. very minor scratches. $60 shipped feel free to ask for pictures. mike goldman warwick,r.i. 57 Year Old Looks 27 Local Woman Reveals Wrinkle Secret That Has Doctors Angry. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f42cdde5ac2d18d0ccfst02duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...
Phew, back before this thread got hijacked :)the rear rack. The one thing that I don't love about my build. Yes, it's not parallel. Here's why: Partially because I am lazy. The rear rack (like the front rack) is bolted to the fender, which means I had to drill the fender. I drilled the fender well, but the tangs that attach the rack at the dropout have 2 mounting holes. The bottom one put the rack too far from the fender, the upper hole didn't leave room for the fender. If I had a drill press I would have put a third hole in the middle (there is room), but I don't. So the rack is sitting higher than it should, and because of the angle of the threads on the rack, I could only get one bolt connected, and the angle of the rack isn't quite right. It's my bike and I am dealing just fine with it. I know it's not aesthetically perfect, but she rides just fine. Re: compared to the LHT - she is just what I expected. More sprightly, better out of the saddle, and possibly even more comfortable. That could be a number of things (Panaracer TG's vs. Marathons on the LHT for example) but so far I am loving this bike. Thanks for playing folks! On Feb 18, 7:39 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Love the color! I for one appreciate the look of the rear rack parallel to the top tubes! :-p -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Terminological Inexactitude
On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:43 PM, David T. wrote: There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. One person's springy is another person's noodle. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? Sean Kelly won almost all of his classic victories and Tour jerseys on Vitus 979s, widely considered to be one of the noodliest bikes you could find under pros at the time. Obviously didn't hamper him. Others want the stiffest frame they can find. It's a matter of personal preference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bombadil and AHH
Tom Now that is sweet and I wish I hadn't looked ... now I want one. :) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sGpl5cAYCdAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jimmy Carter
I believe the mixte is otherwise known as Rivendell's First Lady's bike On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Rumored to have at least one Rivendell mixte as well! On 2/20/12, Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com wrote: That is a very old picture On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: On a bike. Not just any bike. http://www.thebicyclestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jimmy_carter_riv.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VyVv0w3MJC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bombadil and AHH
Yes, because this one http://flic.kr/p/bafis6 is clearly inadequate, you oughta be ashamed! Jokes aside, have you (or has anyone else) had problems with tall, heavy bikes, carrying bags and/or baskets loads, toppling over on kickstands? I was planning to put one of the two-leggers on my Bomba, but I'm not sure whether it will hold it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xUwzPHUQ8GYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bombadil and AHH
I've found that a cheap, Greenfield rear-dropout stand works better with heavy rear loads, even assymetrical loads, than any Pletscher or Velo Orange 2-leg stand. Trikes work better than the Greenfield. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, because this one http://flic.kr/p/bafis6 is clearly inadequate, you oughta be ashamed! Jokes aside, have you (or has anyone else) had problems with tall, heavy bikes, carrying bags and/or baskets loads, toppling over on kickstands? I was planning to put one of the two-leggers on my Bomba, but I'm not sure whether it will hold it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xUwzPHUQ8GYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Aussie tights? Alternatives?
Thanks for all the talk about Aussie's and alternatives; good to know that the relatively cheap Aussie's are a viable possibility, not needing corsetry. I'll wait to see what the late winter sales offer and then decide, On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Dennis hoga...@gmail.com wrote: I have the aussies in size M and I have found them quite comfortable - Usually I wear then over padded bike shorts with a MEC bike knicker over them. I have been comfortable in a range of 28 to 50 degrees in sometimes sunny Portland OR. They are neither too tight or too loose - they don't bag at the knees - they do have a generous rise in the back - no plumber's butt with these (no offense to any trades persons ;-) I am 5'11'' 185 lbs (or so) and ride a 65 Hilsen. +1 On Feb 20, 9:02 am, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: I wear Wooly warm tights over wool boxers or sucking tech fabric boxers and like them a lot. Below 40F, I wear MUSA pants over them Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sent: Mon Feb 20 09:53:06 CST 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives? Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 64 Atlantis still FS
Still unsold and baby is still coming. $1,575. No seatpost, seat or paddles (unless you want an old old Campy seatpost and old old somewhat broken B17). Does includes the 2x Big Apples 700x60 Gonna take it to the 'Bay tomorrow night if there are no takers here. Thanks all On Feb 17, 6:43 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: When you look at the top of the person's post, over to the right past the time of their post, is the - Post reply | v box. If you click that down-arrow, it will drop down a menu where you can pick reply to author. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Terminological Inexactitude
For my bicycle I demand 'stiff but compliant'! Now if that isn't horse manure I don't know horses. -JimD On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:43 PM, David T. wrote: There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. One person's springy is another person's noodle. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? Sean Kelly won almost all of his classic victories and Tour jerseys on Vitus 979s, widely considered to be one of the noodliest bikes you could find under pros at the time. Obviously didn't hamper him. Others want the stiffest frame they can find. It's a matter of personal preference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Terminological Inexactitude
Some the writers for bike mags went to the school where wine descriptions are taught, and have applied the same weird ideas to describing the characteristics of bicycles. Hey, if you're paying the big bucks, shouldn't you get some ecstatic experience? Loving the plush ride of my Atlantis, as it glides over every ripple with nary a bobble... dougP On Feb 20, 10:43 am, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose their meaning. “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than about half a mile apart. “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or is that “forgiving” steel tubing? It bet it’s not too forgiving if someone get whacked on the forehead with it. Would you be forgiven for that?) You could turn it around and call it “acute angle” or “sharp angle” geometry, but that doesn’t sound very relaxing. Plus for someone riding a time trial bike, they may be more relaxed with a more “open” geometry ( i.e. a steeper seat tube angle. ) I guess the ultimate “relaxed” geometry is the recumbent bike, which indeed is a relaxed position, until the first time you try to ride up a hill and you immediately want to go back to your more uptight upright bike. “Quick” geometry, which tends to be another way of saying a short chainstay. This makes the bike turn quicker, but it tends to get muddled with thinking that the bike will go quicker or faster, which of course makes no sense at all. ( Just think of boats and drag racing cars, the fastest ones are long and narrow, so instead of “quick” geometry you could call it “slow” or “meandering” geometry…once again, how can geometry be “quick?” ) Oh, I almost forgot about quick steering...why do I always want my steering to be as slow as possible? If you read the reviews of some bicycles they are almost as bereft of meaning as one of those fine wine descriptions...eager, aggressive, responsive, nuanced, what's next, insouciant? “Supple” tires….no comment. There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking about? It’s a holiday… -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Suntour Bar-End Shifter Slotted Nut
Howdy, I'm looking for one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/akrando/6914297847/in/photostream Please let me know if you have one or two available. Thank you. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Sweat Shirts
If you have one available (L or XL), kindly contact me off-list. thanks Max B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Terminological Inexactitude
...it's fruity with hints of soil, tobacco and saddle leather! On Feb 20, 8:11 pm, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Some the writers for bike mags went to the school where wine descriptions are taught, and have applied the same weird ideas to describing the characteristics of bicycles. Hey, if you're paying the big bucks, shouldn't you get some ecstatic experience? Loving the plush ride of my Atlantis, as it glides over every ripple with nary a bobble... dougP On Feb 20, 10:43 am, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as possible? There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose their meaning. “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than about half a mile apart. “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or is that “forgiving” steel tubing? It bet it’s not too forgiving if someone get whacked on the forehead with it. Would you be forgiven for that?) You could turn it around and call it “acute angle” or “sharp angle” geometry, but that doesn’t sound very relaxing. Plus for someone riding a time trial bike, they may be more relaxed with a more “open” geometry ( i.e. a steeper seat tube angle. ) I guess the ultimate “relaxed” geometry is the recumbent bike, which indeed is a relaxed position, until the first time you try to ride up a hill and you immediately want to go back to your more uptight upright bike. “Quick” geometry, which tends to be another way of saying a short chainstay. This makes the bike turn quicker, but it tends to get muddled with thinking that the bike will go quicker or faster, which of course makes no sense at all. ( Just think of boats and drag racing cars, the fastest ones are long and narrow, so instead of “quick” geometry you could call it “slow” or “meandering” geometry…once again, how can geometry be “quick?” ) Oh, I almost forgot about quick steering...why do I always want my steering to be as slow as possible? If you read the reviews of some bicycles they are almost as bereft of meaning as one of those fine wine descriptions...eager, aggressive, responsive, nuanced, what's next, insouciant? “Supple” tires….no comment. There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking about? It’s a holiday…- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Aussie tights? Alternatives?
I have a pair of the large per Grant's recommendation that you go up a size. Observations are that they come up to my chest, and are a bit baggy. I would go with M (I'm 5'11 160lbs) next time. These are warm - definitely too warm for Seattle winters of 40-50. They are great when it's in the 20s or lower. I'm a bit hot-blooded, however... Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the talk about Aussie's and alternatives; good to know that the relatively cheap Aussie's are a viable possibility, not needing corsetry. I'll wait to see what the late winter sales offer and then decide, On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Dennis hoga...@gmail.com wrote: I have the aussies in size M and I have found them quite comfortable - Usually I wear then over padded bike shorts with a MEC bike knicker over them. I have been comfortable in a range of 28 to 50 degrees in sometimes sunny Portland OR. They are neither too tight or too loose - they don't bag at the knees - they do have a generous rise in the back - no plumber's butt with these (no offense to any trades persons ;-) I am 5'11'' 185 lbs (or so) and ride a 65 Hilsen. +1 On Feb 20, 9:02 am, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: I wear Wooly warm tights over wool boxers or sucking tech fabric boxers and like them a lot. Below 40F, I wear MUSA pants over them Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sent: Mon Feb 20 09:53:06 CST 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Aussie tights? Alternatives? Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like longjohns to satisfy. I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough that they don't look like a second skin. No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem a good alternative. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
