[RBW] Re: I'm selling my wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay

[Manuel Acosta]

Gack! I would have bought the whole set if you posted this to the list
plus the wool clothing!

On Mar 22, 5:25 pm, Tom Norwood  wrote:
> I'm selling two wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay.  These are the original
> Woolistic Rivendell Jerseys from back in the day, both are medium, they are
> in really good shape for how old they are, I never ended up wearing these
> much at all.  Let me know if you have any questions about them.
> Short Sleeve 
> Jersey
> Long Sleeve 
> Jersey
>
> Tom

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[RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[rob markwardt]

A big fan of the patience method here.  I've installed at least 5
pairs of Honjo's, Berthouds, and VO's.  My projects usually run into
weeks, months or years but in the long run they seem to work out.   I
don't think the install is too difficult but it's not a rush job like
bolting on SKS fenders.  That being said it still can be difficult.  I
recently ripped off a VO Zepplin front fender and tossed it in the
garbage can in a fit of rage because I could not get it securely
attached without rattling or rubbing.  It drove me nuts!  I'm now
riding a mutt with Berthoud on front and a VO on back...it works.  I
live in Seattle and would say Elliott Bay is tops.  Free Range is very
Riv-centric and judging by their floor models I'm sure could do a good
job.  I'd be glad to help out but at my pace we might be preparing for
the rains of next winter.

Rob

  TOn Mar 22, 5:12 pm, Tom Norwood  wrote:
> Beyond Elliot Bay, I would trust Counterbalance or Free Range for
> installing Honjos.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > Not true! I am a far bigger klutz than Steve!
>
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > > [...] I'm at least as much of a klutz at Patrick.
>
> > Patrick "RTFI? We don't need no FI" Moore, who relies on inspiration
> > to get things mostly right
>
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[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[William]

let me know when you want to sell me that Rock Combo.  I'll take it and 
resurrect it epicly.  

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:46:42 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> Go RockCombo!  I ride this bike a lot...though I'd trade for that 
> yellow one. 
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/​77502424@N00/6029497807/in/​set-72157606340462594
>  
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 4:10 pm, William  wrote: 
> > I had a RockCombo when it was a current model.  I wish I had it back. 
>  That 
> > was a fun bike. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:25:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: 
> > 
> > > Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a 
> > > Roadeo, not to mention other things). 
> > 
> > > Tires: what 1.1s? Really, for a bike like that, I highly recommend 
> > > something Schwalbe, either the 50 mm Blg Apples (60 if things are 
> > > really rough) or the ditto (50 mm) Kojaks: the former for flat 
> > > resistance with decent rolling abillity, the latter for rolling with 
> > > decent flat resistance. 
> > 
> > > I still remember with fondness my early '90s Diamond Back budget fixie 
> > > all rounder with dd stem, Noodles and 60 mm Big Apples and ~ 63" gear. 
> > 
> > > My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the 
> > > single year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR 
> > > with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like 
> > > geometry (72 degree head, for example). 
> > 
> > > Me, I'll put up wlth the Fargo for now because it is so versatile 
> > > (mountain, sand, touring, groceries, modestly sprightly derailleur 
> > > road bike since I have not one of those) tho' the handling on pavement 
> > > is hardly up to Riv standards. 
> > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jinxed  wrote: 
> > > > So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out 
> > > there on 
> > > > the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis. 
> > 
> > > > As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might 
> have 
> > > > interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a 
> grocery 
> > > > list trade and BOOM...off to UPS. 
> > 
> > > > Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I 
> could 
> > > > not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal 
> was 
> > > made 
> > > > extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic 
> person 
> > > to 
> > > > deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you 
> know 
> > > > who you are. 
> > 
> > > > Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
> > > > additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes 
> traded, 
> > > > everything else swapped over. Thumbs up. 
> > 
> > > > So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
> > > > yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on 
> there 
> > > for 
> > > > the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe 
> like a 
> > > > town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything 
> came 
> > > > directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to 
> my 
> > > > favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in 
> the 
> > > > future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul 
> Racer 
> > > > brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I 
> wanna be 
> > > > like cyclotourist) ;) 
> > 
> > > > By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles 
> riding my 
> > > > "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service 
> roads, 
> > > and 
> > > > single track. Truly "All Round". 
> > 
> > > > For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I 
> had 
> > > just 
> > > > so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing. 
> > 
> > > > Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with 
> impressions. 
> > 
> > > > Monster A/R 
> > 
> > > > First ride and misc 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Joe Bunik]

I could have grabbed this same(exact?!?) Combo when I was in
Pittsburgh for $250 or something, but passed. Damn! It! Why?!?

On 3/22/12, rob markwardt  wrote:
> Go RockCombo!  I ride this bike a lot...though I'd trade for that
> yellow one.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6029497807/in/set-72157606340462594
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 4:10 pm, William  wrote:
>> I had a RockCombo when it was a current model.  I wish I had it back.
>>  That
>> was a fun bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:25:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> > Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a
>> > Roadeo, not to mention other things).
>>
>> > Tires: what 1.1s? Really, for a bike like that, I highly recommend
>> > something Schwalbe, either the 50 mm Blg Apples (60 if things are
>> > really rough) or the ditto (50 mm) Kojaks: the former for flat
>> > resistance with decent rolling abillity, the latter for rolling with
>> > decent flat resistance.
>>
>> > I still remember with fondness my early '90s Diamond Back budget fixie
>> > all rounder with dd stem, Noodles and 60 mm Big Apples and ~ 63" gear.
>>
>> > My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the
>> > single year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR
>> > with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like
>> > geometry (72 degree head, for example).
>>
>> > Me, I'll put up wlth the Fargo for now because it is so versatile
>> > (mountain, sand, touring, groceries, modestly sprightly derailleur
>> > road bike since I have not one of those) tho' the handling on pavement
>> > is hardly up to Riv standards.
>>
>> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:
>> > > So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out
>> > there on
>> > > the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>>
>> > > As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might
>> > > have
>> > > interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a
>> > > grocery
>> > > list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>>
>> > > Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I
>> > > could
>> > > not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was
>> > made
>> > > extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic
>> > > person
>> > to
>> > > deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you
>> > > know
>> > > who you are.
>>
>> > > Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
>> > > additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes
>> > > traded,
>> > > everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>>
>> > > So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
>> > > yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on
>> > > there
>> > for
>> > > the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like
>> > > a
>> > > town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything
>> > > came
>> > > directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to
>> > > my
>> > > favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in
>> > > the
>> > > future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
>> > > brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna
>> > > be
>> > > like cyclotourist) ;)
>>
>> > > By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding
>> > > my
>> > > "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service
>> > > roads,
>> > and
>> > > single track. Truly "All Round".
>>
>> > > For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had
>> > just
>> > > so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>>
>> > > Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with
>> > > impressions.
>>
>> > > Monster A/R
>>
>> > > First ride and misc
>>
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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Addison Wilhite]

Ahthe glorious allrounder...so versatile and wonderful.

Mine in a few configurations

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/head-badge.html

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/search?q=Monster+cross

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/search?q=Tour+Nevada

Love this bike!

Enjoy yours...
Addison

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:

> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there on 
> the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
> 
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have 
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery list 
> trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
> 
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could not 
> have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made extra 
> pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to deal 
> with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know who you 
> are.
> 
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded, 
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
> 
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there for 
> the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like a town 
> and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came directly 
> off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my favorite 
> mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the future. The 
> only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer brakes, which I 
> will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be like cyclotourist) 
> ;)
> 
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my 
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, and 
> single track. Truly "All Round".
> 
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had just 
> so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
> 
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
> 
> Monster A/R
> 
> First ride and misc
> 
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[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[rob markwardt]

Go RockCombo!  I ride this bike a lot...though I'd trade for that
yellow one.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6029497807/in/set-72157606340462594



On Mar 22, 4:10 pm, William  wrote:
> I had a RockCombo when it was a current model.  I wish I had it back.  That
> was a fun bike.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:25:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> > Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a
> > Roadeo, not to mention other things).
>
> > Tires: what 1.1s? Really, for a bike like that, I highly recommend
> > something Schwalbe, either the 50 mm Blg Apples (60 if things are
> > really rough) or the ditto (50 mm) Kojaks: the former for flat
> > resistance with decent rolling abillity, the latter for rolling with
> > decent flat resistance.
>
> > I still remember with fondness my early '90s Diamond Back budget fixie
> > all rounder with dd stem, Noodles and 60 mm Big Apples and ~ 63" gear.
>
> > My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the
> > single year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR
> > with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like
> > geometry (72 degree head, for example).
>
> > Me, I'll put up wlth the Fargo for now because it is so versatile
> > (mountain, sand, touring, groceries, modestly sprightly derailleur
> > road bike since I have not one of those) tho' the handling on pavement
> > is hardly up to Riv standards.
>
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:
> > > So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out
> > there on
> > > the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> > > As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have
> > > interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery
> > > list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> > > Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could
> > > not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was
> > made
> > > extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person
> > to
> > > deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know
> > > who you are.
>
> > > Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
> > > additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded,
> > > everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> > > So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> > > yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there
> > for
> > > the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like a
> > > town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> > > directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> > > favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> > > future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> > > brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> > > like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> > > By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my
> > > "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads,
> > and
> > > single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> > > For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had
> > just
> > > so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> > > Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> > > Monster A/R
>
> > > First ride and misc
>
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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[RJM]

If I was going to upgrade to more modern componentry on an Atlantis, I 
would be more apt to go with something like Sram Apex.  Plenty of gear 
range, modern style brifters, and still lightweight enough.
 

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:25:06 PM UTC-5, sanjoser wrote:

> hello everyone 
>
> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
> or so.
> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
> been
> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
> every 
> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
> change.
> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
> explain that 
> to this group. 
> So, what 's the consensus?
> best regards
> tom
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[dougP]

"This is my goto bike for commuting and tours."

Maybe not very creative but an Atlantis in a standard Rivendell build
is unbeatable for versatility.  If you're changing the entire
drivetrain, why not just go with the Sugino / Shimano / Tektro / etc.
components?  Reasonably priced, bolts on with no fuss & away you go.
Cyclofiend's Atlantis page has gobs of bikes with build details so
lots of choices to look at and they've all been proven to work.

I inherited a bunch of Campy stuff a few years back & fiddled around
for a bit, then found a guy who needed pretty much all of it for some
roadie type build he was doing.  Glad I never started screwing around
mixing'n'mathcing Campy & Shimano; the way I play with this stuff I
would still be at it.

OTH, Eric is "campyonlyguy" and has an entirely opposite view.  So it
can work.

dougP

On Mar 21, 2:25 pm, sanjoser  wrote:
> hello everyone
>
> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years
> or so.
> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've
> been
> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
> every
> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
> change.
> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
> explain that
> to this group.
> So, what 's the consensus?
> best regards
> tom

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[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[dougP]

Definitely fatter tires; those 1.1s look so skinny!  Maybe not all the
way up to 2"+ size (although it does look good) but something with
more meat on it.

dougP

On Mar 22, 2:53 pm, jinxed  wrote:
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there
> on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded,
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there
> for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like
> a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads,
> and single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had just
> so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R 
>
> First ride and 
> misc

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Leslie]

Instead of the Neos, considered the Motolites?


I'm really liking your bike,reminds me a lot of what I was thinking about on my 
Bomba build

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[RBW] Re: Fatty Rumpkin

[Montclair BobbyB]

The Fatty Rumpkins were my tire of choice on my 650B Kogswell P/R
LOVED those tires long gone with bike sigh.

On Mar 22, 7:35 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if the discrepancy
> between "Lumpkin" and "Rumpkin" was aimed to avoid legal issues that might
> inhere in LOTR copyright claims.
>
> Whatever the case may be, I think Rumpkin rings better to the ear.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:40:33 AM UTC-7, colin p. cummings wrote:
>
> > I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other
> > week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom
> > Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire
> > the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"?
>
> > Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a
> > Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins?
>
> > Cheers,
> > Colin Cummings
> > Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[C.J. Filip]

Dang, would have been a great set of wheels for my planned 26">650B
Atlantis (56cm) conversion.

On Mar 22, 7:51 am, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> Found a trader, thanks.
>
> On Mar 22, 8:37 am, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey group,
>
> > I've got a set of Rich built 650b wheels, Velocity 32H rims, that I
> > would like to trade for a 26" set of similar quality.  These are on my
> > Bleriot and were bought from a list member about 1.5 years ago.  Not a
> > lot of miles on them since then.  I used to ride with 26" rims on my
> > Bleriot and sport Big Apples, which I'd like to do again.  The
> > cassette is 12-25 and we can work out whether you want it (Shimano
> > Hyperglide).  Contact me off list if you wanna trade.
>
> > Colin Cummings
> > Amarillo, TX

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[jinxed]

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:25:37 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a
> Roadeo, not to mention other things).
>
> Tires: what 1.1s? 
>
The 1.1's that came on the wheels are WTB "Slickasaurus". They came on the 
wheels which were from a different bike. They were actually fine and plenty 
usable if you were sticking to smooth(er) conditions. I did have them wash 
on me a few times in the loose stuff. Thanks for the tire recommendations!

 

> My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the single 
> year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR
>
with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like
> geometry (72 degree head, for example).
>
Those are AWESOME! A buddy of mine has one and really digs it. Of course he 
has an X0-2, and a Handsome X0X0 as well. So he's all covered on the 26" AR 
front. 

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[RBW] Re: I'm selling my wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay

[Tom Norwood]

Also selling lots of other great wool stuff if you check my other listings,
Ibex and Icebreaker stuff.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tom Norwood  wrote:

> I'm selling two wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay.  These are the original
> Woolistic Rivendell Jerseys from back in the day, both are medium, they are
> in really good shape for how old they are, I never ended up wearing these
> much at all.  Let me know if you have any questions about them.
> Short Sleeve 
> Jersey
> Long Sleeve 
> Jersey
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] I'm selling my wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay

[Tom Norwood]

I'm selling two wool Rivendell Jerseys on ebay.  These are the original
Woolistic Rivendell Jerseys from back in the day, both are medium, they are
in really good shape for how old they are, I never ended up wearing these
much at all.  Let me know if you have any questions about them.
Short Sleeve 
Jersey
Long Sleeve 
Jersey

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Well, modern-ish Campy will generally be made for road bikes with 130 mm 
dropout spacing. The Atlantis is 135 mm, so you'll have to squish the frame 
a little, modify a hub. Or maybe you already have CK hubs with a Campy 
freehub? When you've figured that out, you'll have to reconcile yourself to 
Campy's race-oriented gearing. If you want a cog bigger than 29t, no stock 
Campy cassette will work. And if you re-space a Shimano cassette with 
bigger cogs, will a Campy derailleur handle the bigger cog? Will any of the 
Campy cranks clear the bowed-out Atlantis chainstays?

IMO, Campy is a quick road to frustration, heartache, and lots of money 
spent. Every Campy bike I've ever worked on has been a pain in the ass. 
Trying to find parts for older series drivetrains is often frustrating and 
expensive, if not impossible. We have a buddy at a nearby shop. Everytime 
we call him with one of our Campy compatibility questions, he usually 
laughs for a few minutes before delivering the bad news.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:25:06 PM UTC-5, sanjoser wrote:
>
> hello everyone
>
> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
> or so.
> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
> been
> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
> every 
> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
> change.
> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
> explain that 
> to this group. 
> So, what 's the consensus?
> best regards
> tom
>

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[cyclotourist]

That's great! Looks perfect set up there with those fat tires & M-bars!

On 3/22/12, jinxed  wrote:
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there
> on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded,
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there
> for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like
> a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads,
> and single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had just
> so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R 
>
> First ride and
> misc
>
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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[jinxed]

>
>
> What if I have a set of mafac tandem cantis. Would you be interested
> in those? :)
>
> -sv
>

Seth - Those ARE cool, but I have been jonesing for a set of Neo's as long 
as I have for this frame! Gotta keep the eye on the prize. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[Tom Norwood]

Beyond Elliot Bay, I would trust Counterbalance or Free Range for
installing Honjos.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Not true! I am a far bigger klutz than Steve!
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > [...] I'm at least as much of a klutz at Patrick.
>
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> to get things mostly right
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[RBW] Re: Fatty Rumpkin

[Aaron Thomas]

I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if the discrepancy 
between "Lumpkin" and "Rumpkin" was aimed to avoid legal issues that might 
inhere in LOTR copyright claims.  

Whatever the case may be, I think Rumpkin rings better to the ear.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:40:33 AM UTC-7, colin p. cummings wrote:
>
> I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other 
> week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom 
> Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire 
> the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"? 
>
> Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a 
> Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins? 
>
> Cheers, 
> Colin Cummings 
> Amarillo, TX

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[PATRICK MOORE]

And I'll bet you couldn't pedal through corners!

In the opposite direction, I once bought a KHS mtb tandem that the
seller had used for touring with 622X28 tires and short reach
calipers. I converted it back to 559 X 35.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Bruce Herbitter
 wrote:
> I ran 26" wheels on my 700 size bike, using Tektro long reach calipers with
> the pads at the bottom of the slot. The brakes work, but the handling of the
> bike was negatively affected.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:01 -0700, colin p. cummings wrote:
>> > I ran with this setup for a while, using Dia Compe centerpulls.  The
>> > brakes were pretty much bottomed out to match the rims, but they
>> > work.
>>
>> What does "bottomed out" mean here?  Do you mean you have the pads at
>> the bottom of the slots, or do you mean the levers bottom out before you
>> get maximum braking?
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[William]

I had a RockCombo when it was a current model.  I wish I had it back.  That 
was a fun bike.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:25:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a
> Roadeo, not to mention other things).
>
> Tires: what 1.1s? Really, for a bike like that, I highly recommend
> something Schwalbe, either the 50 mm Blg Apples (60 if things are
> really rough) or the ditto (50 mm) Kojaks: the former for flat
> resistance with decent rolling abillity, the latter for rolling with
> decent flat resistance.
>
> I still remember with fondness my early '90s Diamond Back budget fixie
> all rounder with dd stem, Noodles and 60 mm Big Apples and ~ 63" gear.
>
> My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the
> single year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR
> with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like
> geometry (72 degree head, for example).
>
> Me, I'll put up wlth the Fargo for now because it is so versatile
> (mountain, sand, touring, groceries, modestly sprightly derailleur
> road bike since I have not one of those) tho' the handling on pavement
> is hardly up to Riv standards.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:
> > So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out 
> there on
> > the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
> >
> > As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have
> > interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery
> > list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
> >
> > Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could
> > not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was 
> made
> > extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person 
> to
> > deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know
> > who you are.
> >
> > Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
> > additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded,
> > everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
> >
> > So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> > yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there 
> for
> > the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like a
> > town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> > directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> > favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> > future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> > brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> > like cyclotourist) ;)
> >
> > By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my
> > "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, 
> and
> > single track. Truly "All Round".
> >
> > For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had 
> just
> > so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
> >
> > Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
> >
> > Monster A/R
> >
> > First ride and misc
> >
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[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Greg J]

Congrats!  That's my dream bike, too (a Waterford AR), if I can find a 53.  

I really like the look of the skinny-tubed, level tt bike with the fat 26 
wheels.

Greg

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:53:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there 
> on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have 
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery 
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could 
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made 
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to 
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know 
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded, 
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there 
> for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like 
> a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came 
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my 
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the 
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer 
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be 
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my 
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, 
> and single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had 
> just so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R
>
> First ride and 
> misc
>
>
On Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:53:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there 
> on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have 
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery 
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could 
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made 
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to 
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know 
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded, 
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there 
> for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like 
> a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came 
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my 
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the 
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer 
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be 
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my 
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, 
> and single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had 
> just so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R
>
> First ride and 
> misc
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[Bruce Herbitter]

I ran 26" wheels on my 700 size bike, using Tektro long reach calipers with
the pads at the bottom of the slot. The brakes work, but the handling of
the bike was negatively affected.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:01 -0700, colin p. cummings wrote:
> > I ran with this setup for a while, using Dia Compe centerpulls.  The
> > brakes were pretty much bottomed out to match the rims, but they
> > work.
>
> What does "bottomed out" mean here?  Do you mean you have the pads at
> the bottom of the slots, or do you mean the levers bottom out before you
> get maximum braking?
>
>
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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[William]

I'm gonna get the fenders off one of the wide clearance bikes and get the 
knobbies back on.  Likely the Rawland.  

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:48:34 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>
> I like!

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Leslie]

I like!

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[PATRICK MOORE]

Very nice -- congrats.I myself want a Atlantis (and a Bombadil and a
Roadeo, not to mention other things).

Tires: what 1.1s? Really, for a bike like that, I highly recommend
something Schwalbe, either the 50 mm Blg Apples (60 if things are
really rough) or the ditto (50 mm) Kojaks: the former for flat
resistance with decent rolling abillity, the latter for rolling with
decent flat resistance.

I still remember with fondness my early '90s Diamond Back budget fixie
all rounder with dd stem, Noodles and 60 mm Big Apples and ~ 63" gear.

My brother just picked up (for $120!) a rare (500 made during the
single year of production) Specialized Rock Combo, basically an AR
with clearance for 2+ inch tires. This has slightly more road-like
geometry (72 degree head, for example).

Me, I'll put up wlth the Fargo for now because it is so versatile
(mountain, sand, touring, groceries, modestly sprightly derailleur
road bike since I have not one of those) tho' the handling on pavement
is hardly up to Riv standards.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there on
> the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded,
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there for
> the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like a
> town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, and
> single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had just
> so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R
>
> First ride and misc
>
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[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[William]

She's CUTE!

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:53:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there 
> on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.
>
> As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have 
> interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery 
> list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.
>
> Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could 
> not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made 
> extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to 
> deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know 
> who you are.
>
> Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
> additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded, 
> everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.
>
> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there 
> for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like 
> a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came 
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my 
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the 
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer 
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be 
> like cyclotourist) ;)
>
> By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my 
> "long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, 
> and single track. Truly "All Round".
>
> For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had 
> just so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.
>
> Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.
>
> Monster A/R
>
> First ride and 
> misc
>
>

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Re: [RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:53 PM, jinxed  wrote:

> So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work
> yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there for
> the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like a
> town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came
> directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my
> favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the
> future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer
> brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be
> like cyclotourist) ;)

What if I have a set of mafac tandem cantis. Would you be interested
in those? :)

-sv

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[RBW] What a difference a week (or two) makes...

[jinxed]

So 2 weeks ago I got the lust for some 26" fun and hung the AHH out there 
on the trade hook fishing for some Atlantis.

As it turns out I get a snappy email off the bat asking if I might have 
interest in an All Rounder? U YEP. We quickly hammered out a grocery 
list trade and BOOM...off to UPS.

Got the frame and extra bits Tuesday. Lets just put it this way...I could 
not have dreamed of a more exact answer to my wishes. And the deal was made 
extra pleasant having a professional, courteous, and enthusiastic person to 
deal with on the other side of the computer webz. Thanks again...you know 
who you are.

Happily, we exchanged nearly identical parts as to keep from needing 
additional purchase to re-build the bikes. Frames/wheels/brakes traded, 
everything else swapped over. Thumbs up.

So I got her built and took the maiden voyage as my commute to work 
yesterday. I received the wheels with a 1.1" slicks that I kept on there 
for the shake down, although I plan to run a fatter semi-knobby maybe like 
a town and country (or group recommendation??). Basically everything came 
directly off my Hilsen and swapped right over. I opted to go back to my 
favorite mustache bar set up, though I may use my dirt drop stem in the 
future. The only thing I didnt use from the Hilsen was the Paul Racer 
brakes, which I will sell/trade to get some Neo Retro cantis. (I wanna be 
like cyclotourist) ;)

By the end of the day yesterday I rambled around for 50+ miles riding my 
"long commute" home over bike path, surface streets, dirt service roads, 
and single track. Truly "All Round".

For grins today I swapped out the tires to some 2.1 MTB knobbies I had just 
so I could bask in the clearance and badassery of the thing.

Check it out. I'll keep adding to the set and follow up with impressions.

Monster A/R 

First ride and 
misc

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[RBW] FS: Soma San Marcos 59cm

[DustyMerkin]

I have a new 59cm San Marcos that I am thinking of selling.  I removed it 
from the box to rust proof it but have not done anything with it, it's just 
sitting there and will most likely not have any time this year build it up. 
 Has a headset and BB installed by Riv.  $850+shipping

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[PATRICK MOORE]

Not true! I am a far bigger klutz than Steve!

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> [...] I'm at least as much of a klutz at Patrick.

Patrick "RTFI? We don't need no FI" Moore, who relies on inspiration
to get things mostly right

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:01 -0700, colin p. cummings wrote:
> I ran with this setup for a while, using Dia Compe centerpulls.  The
> brakes were pretty much bottomed out to match the rims, but they
> work. 

What does "bottomed out" mean here?  Do you mean you have the pads at
the bottom of the slots, or do you mean the levers bottom out before you
get maximum braking?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:54 -0700, Ryan Ray wrote:
> Well the front fender is attached in three spots but totally off
> center. Unless I hide it with my bag all I can do is be annoyed by the
> off centeredness.
> 

Ovalize the hole at the fork crown so it's centered.


> The rear doesn't have a nice fender line at all and it seems like I
> get rubs all the time. Some times I just wiggle the rear fender and it
> goes away for a while.

Fender has a profile like this: U   Open out the U by spreading the
edges and it will tighten the curve; close in the U by squeezing the
edges together and it will open out the curve of the fender.

One problem you might expect to find on a Rivendell is improper location
of the chainstay bridge.  I've seen one Atlantis where the chainstay
bridge was so far from where it needs to be for a good fender line the
owner used the full length of a wine cork as a spacer.

> They also mounted the back light right on top the stays which looks
> bad. I know that part can't be fixed.

You could move it, and you could fill in the old holes with nuts and
bolts or something.


> Either $60 or $80 for the installation. I can't remember. 
> 
> 
> My bike might not have been an easy install but if it wasn't going to
> work I would have preferred they just say "Nope, not going to happen".
> Then I could have sold the fenders.
> 
> 
> I don't fault them. I'm just looking for a Honjo expert to either help
> mine (which may be past fixing as all the holes are drilled) or for
> the next bike. I'm about to put the 30 year old plastic ones back on
> which is kind of a bummer.

I wonder if one of the Portland frame builders would do it for you.  I'm
told you can ride there on a bike...  ;-)





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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:01 -0700, Mojo wrote:
>   Campy will always have that glorious history, and still has prestige
> for some reason. And Campy certainly has some impressive prices! oh
> and the 11 cogs!  I will say their brifters are nice and the Athena 11
> speed brifter will shift a 9 speed Shimano drivetrain nicely.   But in
> my mind's eye putting Campy parts on an Atlantis is like putting a
> designer spoiler on a Jeep. Not that there is anything wrong with
> that!

You can keep your brifters and your eleven speeds, but trust me, the
Campagnolo Racing T is the best front derailleur ever made for typical
Riv-style compact triple wide range drive trains, the sort of thing you
would expect to find on an Atlantis.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 11:04 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Ryan: Hiroshi at Jitensha studios has, or had, minutely detailed
> instructions for mounting Honjos that helped me install my last pair
> with minimal fuss and with decent results -- and I tend to be an
> impatient klutz.
> 
> http://www.jitensha.com/eng/honjinstl.html
> 
> That said, I've installed metal fenders (Berthouds) sans instructions
> and achieved acceptable if not quite perfectly symmetrical results --
> again, I am impatient and klutz-like.

Besides Jitensha's instructions, Velo Orange has instructions for
mounting metal fenders online.  And of course, BQ has published several
articles on mounting metal fenders.

I've studied all these, and have achieved good results -- repeatable
results, too, because I've mounted at least 3 sets -- and I'm at least
as much of a klutz at Patrick.  

As far as impatient goes, here's one area where you really cannot, MUST
NOT be impatient.  Installing metal fenders will teach you patience.  Go
with the flow, treat it like that arm crank they have you turn for rehab
for shoulder problems (it'll only go so fast no matter how hard you wail
away at it, and a light touch is all you need to make it go at its one
and only pace) and take your time.  

It's really not hard.  Hell, I can do it, and if I can do it anyone can
do it.  (Sometime I'll tell you the story of my 7th grade wood shop and
the Scotty Dog Bookends and the Maple Leaf Nut Tray.)





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Re: [RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

[Sean Whelan]

Thanks to everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I am happy to 
report that a list member dug through the parts bin and found two suitable rear 
hubs and I completed a purchase of both. (I do have lockrings and cassettes in 
my stockpile).


I love this group. The most civil cycling minds anywhere. The next time I build 
a full budget wheelset, I will purchase the White Industries hubs.

Cheers,
Sean

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From: RonLau 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette 
hub
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 3:39 PM

Sean,

I would suggest WI or if you can deal with Black hub, DT 350.  Those Campy hubs 
are nice and their street price is usually more than WI hub new.  They are very 
easy to adjust and service.

Ron



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:54:38 AM UTC-7, Sean Whelan wrote:Looking for 
silver, 32 Hole rear cassette hub. 9 / 10 speed compatible.Campagnolo, White 
Industries, Phil wood, etc.
Please reply off-list.Thanks,
Sean



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[RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

[RonLau]

Sean,

I would suggest WI or if you can deal with Black hub, DT 350.  Those Campy 
hubs are nice and their street price is usually more than WI hub new.  They 
are very easy to adjust and service.

Ron



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:54:38 AM UTC-7, Sean Whelan wrote:
>
> Looking for silver, 32 Hole rear cassette hub. 9 / 10 speed compatible.
>
> Campagnolo, White Industries, Phil wood, etc.
>
>
> Please reply off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Bags, B67, etc

[Robert Kirkpatrick]

Figure I should send out an update. The Candybar bag and Saddle have sold but 
the Adam and Arkel bags are still available. I'm updating my original notes on 
these items with some info I forgot:

1) Rivendell Baggins Adam saddlebag - $125 shipped CONUS
Classic Baggins bag, in good shape but plenty of beusage. I bought this used 
and fairly quickly determined that it was about the same capacity as my Paladin 
bag which I slightly prefer. So time to pass it along. It didn't come with the 
2 front leather straps and I never replaced them so those won't be included. 
The straps for the seat post and saddle are all present. Acorn sells leather 
straps that look like they'd work. Pictures can be seen here:

 
3) Arkel Laptop briefcase - $75 shipped CONUS
This was the original Arkel laptop briefcase which uses their older (but still 
very effective) mounting hardware. I always used a raincover with this bag and 
thus it is in very good shape. One of the male buckles has a tong broken off 
but it still closes fine and would be an easy and inexpensive item to replace.  
It includes a raincover which is. much more worn looking but still repelling 
moisture just fine. This is the best laptop carrying bag out there, with an 
internal, suspended waterproof sleeve that your laptop slides into (and can be 
removed - I'd often take this with me when doing non-bicycle traveling). Sleeve 
fits typical 15" laptops, I used it with two Apple laptops a 15" Titanium 
Powerbook and an 15" Alumininum MacBook Pro. Pictures can be seen here:


Paypal preferred for payment. All prices include shipping. Feel free to make 
offers. I'd also be willing to include any of these items in trade for a set of 
the old Baggins Pa Panniers in any sort of non-ripped condition.
 
Thanks again,
Robert

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[RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I am s bummed that I sold my Bleriot knowing now that I could have done 
this!

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:01:31 AM UTC-7, colin p. cummings wrote:
>
> I ran with this setup for a while, using Dia Compe centerpulls.  The 
> brakes were pretty much bottomed out to match the rims, but they 
> work.  I have 50mm Big Apples, so on a 556 wheel the diameter is about 
> 656 (556+50+50).  Running a 32mm tire on a 584 rim (650b) has a 
> diameter of about 648 (584+32+32), so it doesn't really change the 
> handling from a typical setup, and I like the fatter tire and the way 
> it fits a little better lower in the fork and rear stays.  It also 
> leaves some room for fenders, moreso than when I run Fatty Rumpkins on 
> my Bleriot. 
>
> It's as simple as that.  See a pic of my old setup at 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37990645@N04/3954439832/.  This was my 
> Bleriot that was recked in '10, but I've got another champion just 
> like it again. 
>
> On Mar 22, 10:39 am, Liesl  wrote: 
> > I'd be very interested in knowing more about your set-up for running 
> > 26" rims and big apples on your bleriot frame. 
> > 
> > -liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[PATRICK MOORE]

Ryan: Hiroshi at Jitensha studios has, or had, minutely detailed
instructions for mounting Honjos that helped me install my last pair
with minimal fuss and with decent results -- and I tend to be an
impatient klutz.

http://www.jitensha.com/eng/honjinstl.html

That said, I've installed metal fenders (Berthouds) sans instructions
and achieved acceptable if not quite perfectly symmetrical results --
again, I am impatient and klutz-like.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
> Well the front fender is attached in three spots but totally off center.
> Unless I hide it with my bag all I can do is be annoyed by the off
> centeredness.
>
> The rear doesn't have a nice fender line at all and it seems like I get rubs
> all the time. Some times I just wiggle the rear fender and it goes away for
> a while.
>
> They also mounted the back light right on top the stays which looks bad. I
> know that part can't be fixed.
>
> Either $60 or $80 for the installation. I can't remember.
>
> My bike might not have been an easy install but if it wasn't going to work I
> would have preferred they just say "Nope, not going to happen". Then I could
> have sold the fenders.
>
> I don't fault them. I'm just looking for a Honjo expert to either help mine
> (which may be past fixing as all the holes are drilled) or for the next
> bike. I'm about to put the 30 year old plastic ones back on which is kind of
> a bummer.
>
> - Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:19 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>>
>> Can I please ask how your shop messed the installation up?
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:19 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>>
>> Can I please ask how your shop messed the installation up?
>
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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[Mojo]

Tom,
 
Campagnolo, the name that illicits a response form all cyclists. The 
company dipped in mystique and tradition.
 
My Campy response is blech! In the 70s I bought a Record groupo to go on my 
new frame for racing. the bits were oh so pretty and prestigous and 
expensive. But then I found out the hard way that the Record headset would 
pit if you tightened it just slightly too much. And that Record cranks had 
a built in stress riser and were prone to break. I ended up breaking two of 
them before I replaced it with a 1986 era Dura-Ace crank that i am using to 
this day. At some point around 1980, I rode a friends bike with Suntour 
components and realized the rear derailer worked much better (slant 
parallelogram design copied by Campy & everyone else today) and the Suntour 
brakes actually stopped the bike! Then there was the 110bcd Campy crank 
that offset one of the arms just a tad so you would have to buy Campy 
chainrings. 
 
Today I have long since sold off all my racing wheels, cleats, and Campy 
bits for Shimano/Suntour/TA parts that cost a fraction and work as well or 
much better. 
 
Campy will always have that glorious history, and still has prestige for 
some reason. And Campy certainly has some impressive prices! oh and the 11 
cogs!  I will say their brifters are nice and the Athena 11 speed brifter 
will shift a 9 speed Shimano drivetrain nicely.
 
But in my mind's eye putting Campy parts on an Atlantis is like putting 
a designer spoiler on a Jeep.
Not that there is anything wrong with that!
 

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 3:25:06 PM UTC-6, sanjoser wrote:

> hello everyone 
>
> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
> or so.
> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
> been
> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
> every 
> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
> change.
> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
> explain that 
> to this group. 
> So, what 's the consensus?
> best regards
> tom
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[Philip Williamson]

That's an excellent plan. Good thing I've got a quart of synthetic oil! 

 Philip

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:39:45 AM UTC-7, William wrote:
>
> Service it 27 times today, and then you can blow it off for another two 
> years.
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:30:49 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Huh. My 1999 King-built "Bontrager" Hubs have been adjusted once, early 
>> in their life. Am I 23 services behind, or do the older hubs not need this? 
>> I did look up the King service guidelines a while ago, and they recommend 
>> either their own oil ($9 for 1.2 ounces), or synthetic motor oil ($7/quart 
>> - good for 320 overhauls). 
>>
>>  Philip 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:40:35 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote: 
>>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser  
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they 
>>> get serviced 
>>> > > every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is 
>>> up for 
>>> > > change. 
>>> > 
>>> > You have to service your hubs every 6 months?? 
>>> > 
>>> > that seems... excessive. 
>>>
>>> For those not familiar with Chris King hubs, that "service" refers to 
>>> relubricating the RingDrive freewheeling mechanism every 6 to 12 
>>> months. This isn't at all hard and all one needs are normal hand tools 
>>> and a bottle of Chris King RingDrive lubricant. OK, so you do need 
>>> that proprietary Chris King hub preload adjustment tool that's about 
>>> $25, but this is a 5-minute job and is distinctively not like 
>>> servicing a classic loose-ball hub. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

[Ryan Ray]

Well the front fender is attached in three spots but totally off center. 
Unless I hide it with my bag all I can do is be annoyed by the off 
centeredness.

The rear doesn't have a nice fender line at all and it seems like I get 
rubs all the time. Some times I just wiggle the rear fender and it goes 
away for a while.

They also mounted the back light right on top the stays which looks bad. I 
know that part can't be fixed.

Either $60 or $80 for the installation. I can't remember. 

My bike might not have been an easy install but if it wasn't going to work 
I would have preferred they just say "Nope, not going to happen". Then I 
could have sold the fenders.

I don't fault them. I'm just looking for a Honjo expert to either help mine 
(which may be past fixing as all the holes are drilled) or for the next 
bike. I'm about to put the 30 year old plastic ones back on which is kind 
of a bummer.

- Ryan


 



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:19 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>
> Can I please ask how your shop messed the installation up?


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:19 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>
> Can I please ask how your shop messed the installation up?

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[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

[Darin G.]

VW Eurovan Camper if you can find one.  

D.G.

On Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:02:42 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote:
>
> Here's why I ask?  I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would
> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain,
> theft-prevention etc.  Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/
> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR,
> slide the wheel in next to it
>
> Anyway, what is everybody else doing?
>
> RGZ
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[William]

Service it 27 times today, and then you can blow it off for another two 
years.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:30:49 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Huh. My 1999 King-built "Bontrager" Hubs have been adjusted once, early in 
> their life. Am I 23 services behind, or do the older hubs not need this? I 
> did look up the King service guidelines a while ago, and they recommend 
> either their own oil ($9 for 1.2 ounces), or synthetic motor oil ($7/quart 
> - good for 320 overhauls). 
>
>  Philip 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:40:35 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote: 
>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser  
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they 
>> get serviced 
>> > > every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is 
>> up for 
>> > > change. 
>> > 
>> > You have to service your hubs every 6 months?? 
>> > 
>> > that seems... excessive. 
>>
>> For those not familiar with Chris King hubs, that "service" refers to 
>> relubricating the RingDrive freewheeling mechanism every 6 to 12 
>> months. This isn't at all hard and all one needs are normal hand tools 
>> and a bottle of Chris King RingDrive lubricant. OK, so you do need 
>> that proprietary Chris King hub preload adjustment tool that's about 
>> $25, but this is a 5-minute job and is distinctively not like 
>> servicing a classic loose-ball hub. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[Philip Williamson]

Huh. My 1999 King-built "Bontrager" Hubs have been adjusted once, early in 
their life. Am I 23 services behind, or do the older hubs not need this? I 
did look up the King service guidelines a while ago, and they recommend 
either their own oil ($9 for 1.2 ounces), or synthetic motor oil ($7/quart 
- good for 320 overhauls). 

 Philip 


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:40:35 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:
>
> On Mar 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote: 
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > > I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they 
> get serviced 
> > > every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is 
> up for 
> > > change. 
> > 
> > You have to service your hubs every 6 months?? 
> > 
> > that seems... excessive. 
>
> For those not familiar with Chris King hubs, that "service" refers to 
> relubricating the RingDrive freewheeling mechanism every 6 to 12 
> months. This isn't at all hard and all one needs are normal hand tools 
> and a bottle of Chris King RingDrive lubricant. OK, so you do need 
> that proprietary Chris King hub preload adjustment tool that's about 
> $25, but this is a 5-minute job and is distinctively not like 
> servicing a classic loose-ball hub. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fatty Rumpkin

[William]

Our household set of Fatty Rumpkins are currently on my wife's Yves Gomez. 
 She likes to call the bike "Fatty Bumpkin"

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:40:33 AM UTC-7, colin p. cummings wrote:
>
> I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other 
> week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom 
> Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire 
> the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"? 
>
> Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a 
> Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins? 
>
> Cheers, 
> Colin Cummings 
> Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[colin p. cummings]

I ran with this setup for a while, using Dia Compe centerpulls.  The
brakes were pretty much bottomed out to match the rims, but they
work.  I have 50mm Big Apples, so on a 556 wheel the diameter is about
656 (556+50+50).  Running a 32mm tire on a 584 rim (650b) has a
diameter of about 648 (584+32+32), so it doesn't really change the
handling from a typical setup, and I like the fatter tire and the way
it fits a little better lower in the fork and rear stays.  It also
leaves some room for fenders, moreso than when I run Fatty Rumpkins on
my Bleriot.

It's as simple as that.  See a pic of my old setup at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37990645@N04/3954439832/.  This was my
Bleriot that was recked in '10, but I've got another champion just
like it again.

On Mar 22, 10:39 am, Liesl  wrote:
> I'd be very interested in knowing more about your set-up for running
> 26" rims and big apples on your bleriot frame.
>
> -liesl

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[RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[Liesl]

I'd be very interested in knowing more about your set-up for running
26" rims and big apples on your bleriot frame.

-liesl

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Re: [RBW] Fatty Rumpkin

[Leslie]

I still think the Hunqapillar would have been well-named if it'd been 
called Mumakil

-L



On Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:44:07 AM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>
> I glide along on Jack Browns, but have also enjoyed the LOTR references in 
> RBW offerings. My beautiful orange QuickBeam has my friends now reminding 
> me to "Think Ent."
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:40 AM, colin p. cummings wrote:
>
>> I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other
>> week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom
>> Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire
>> the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"?
>>
>> Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a
>> Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Colin Cummings
>> Amarillo, TX
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[colin p. cummings]

Found a trader, thanks.

On Mar 22, 8:37 am, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> Hey group,
>
> I've got a set of Rich built 650b wheels, Velocity 32H rims, that I
> would like to trade for a 26" set of similar quality.  These are on my
> Bleriot and were bought from a list member about 1.5 years ago.  Not a
> lot of miles on them since then.  I used to ride with 26" rims on my
> Bleriot and sport Big Apples, which I'd like to do again.  The
> cassette is 12-25 and we can work out whether you want it (Shimano
> Hyperglide).  Contact me off list if you wanna trade.
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

[stevep33]

Clean the brakes out.. maybe give the brake pads a light sanding to
renew the surface that may be chewed up from winter grit.

on a related note, I've started using Chain L lube, and it's as
terrific as claimed - long lasting, low maintenance.  Use this stuff
if you are putting on a new chain.

Summer in March is great!

On Mar 21, 5:31 pm, Zack  wrote:
> So I just went through my first winter of Riv ownership in New England.
>  For those of you that don't know, we had a very very mild winter and are
> currently experiencing a crazy hot spell.  I think that winter is pretty
> much done (I have never seen anything like this, very weird stuff).  I can
> see it getting cold again for a bit, but not turning to winter again.  We
> shall see I guess.
>
> At any rate, I had studded tires on the bike and rode most of the winter.
>  I haven't done anything other than cleaning and lubing the chain and the
> occasional wipe down.
>
> What kind of tune up do you guys do before the long biking season begins?
>
> My bike was new to me in August or so, I am guessing I don't have cables to
> replace or anything like that, but just wondering what you do to
> maintain/start the new season.
>
> Thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] Fatty Rumpkin

[Andrew]

I glide along on Jack Browns, but have also enjoyed the LOTR references in
RBW offerings. My beautiful orange QuickBeam has my friends now reminding
me to "Think Ent."

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:40 AM, colin p. cummings  wrote:

> I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other
> week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom
> Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire
> the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"?
>
> Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a
> Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins?
>
> Cheers,
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
>
>

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[RBW] Fatty Rumpkin

[colin p. cummings]

I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other
week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom
Bombadil's little horse/pony.  Anyone know why Riv calls their tire
the "Rumpkin" and not the "Lumpkin"?

Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a
Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins?

Cheers,
Colin Cummings
Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] WTT: my 650b Wheels for your 26" Wheels

[colin p. cummings]

Hey group,

I've got a set of Rich built 650b wheels, Velocity 32H rims, that I
would like to trade for a 26" set of similar quality.  These are on my
Bleriot and were bought from a list member about 1.5 years ago.  Not a
lot of miles on them since then.  I used to ride with 26" rims on my
Bleriot and sport Big Apples, which I'd like to do again.  The
cassette is 12-25 and we can work out whether you want it (Shimano
Hyperglide).  Contact me off list if you wanna trade.

Colin Cummings
Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: Curiosity is Killing Me

[doc]

I agree about the bars.  The Alba's place the hands back much further,
thus compressing your position.  You need a longer stem and/or top
tube.  Take the same bike and put a bar on with less sweep, and you
may sense that it is too big.

On Mar 22, 4:59 am, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> Peter, I think you'd be fine on it with dropbars, but it *does *look a
> little small with those very-swept-back bars. I'm shorter than you, and the
> reach to Albas was fine for me on that frame (as Peter knows, the standover
> was my problem with it).
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
> > Your setup doesn't look like the bike is too small.  As long as it
> > feels fine, it's fine.
>
> > I'd think on a 56 Hilsen/Saluki that you'd be running a slightly
> > shorter periscope stem (unless you wanted to extend the reach
> > slightly), but it'd still be high because it looks like you prefer
> > your bars that way.  You'd have a bit less standover height.
>
> > I have the same PBH and a 58 Saluki fit but felt too big.  The 56 Sam
> > I test rode felt a little long in the top tube.  I remember looking at
> > the 52 Sam and thinking it'd be too small.  My 57 Bleriot was just
> > right.  I briefly had a 54 Saluki but didn't build it up because I
> > quickly realized it would be too small for me with my preferred reach/
> > drop.
>
> > I'm 5'9" or so.
>
> > Ryan (that guy that jumps from bike to bike)
>
> > On Mar 21, 6:56 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> > > So the new Sam has me wondering, is my bike just too small? I had a
> > > long convo with Keven on the clock at work today which was doubly nice
> > > and he was trying to bang into my head that my 54 Hilsen is just too
> > > small for someone with a 84pbh and who comes in at 250lbs.  Having had
> > > a 58cm Saluki that just felt too big I thought maybe he was off or
> > > that I just feel more comfortable on a smaller frame but notice that I
> > > am trying to stretch the frame with a long stem and setback seatpost
> > > so maybe he is on to something. I hate to be that guy that jumps from
> > > bike to bike but I would love to find one that was "just right" and I
> > > am not sure I am there yet.  I love the 650b wheels with the Hetres
> > > and would hate to lose that by going up to the 56 Sam or 58 Atlantis
> > > or 54 Hunqapillar, although those are all awesome bikes. My question
> > > is if I was to shift my Hilsen frame for the 52 Sam is this just a
> > > lateral move or would there be a significant difference that I would
> > > feel?  If anyone has a 56 Hilsen for a straight trade or has any other
> > > creative ideas I would be open to hear them.  I really do love the
> > > unique color of the Hilsen I got from Joe and that it is actually one
> > > of the older Salukis (SA 0193) that was badged a Hilsen which also
> > > makes it somewhat unique so I would hate to give it up for something
> > > that was just a lateral move. Thanks to anyone who can help me with my
> > > ramblings here. Oh, link to my latest ride photoshttp://
> >www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

[robert zeidler]

Yeah it's much better to read about everyone trying to describe about how
they can tell the differences between ruffy tuffy and roly poly.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the
> moderatorsintheir
> infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts.
>
> Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that
> woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three
> wheels on the ground.
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, davidfrench 
wrote:
>> Is this thing a tricycle?
>> What don't lean like a bike is not a bike!
>> :-)
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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[newenglandbike]

PS I'm not proud of that level of neglect of my hubs---  but life gets in 
the way and usually something else is up with my bike/wheels (new england 
road salt eats rims for breakfast).I'm tempted to go clean those hubs 
up right now just b/c they are damn good hubs.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:40:28 AM UTC-4, newenglandbike wrote:
>
> I have at least 10K on a set of shimano deores (6K continental tour +2.5 
> years commuting), re-laced them twice but didn't even clean them off, and 
> they still spin silky smooth.   
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:47:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> 11K on a set of Phils and they feel like new. 10K and 7 K in two
>> (titanium!) bb assemblies, ditto. Heck, the --what, 30? 40? -- year
>> old 3 piece Phils on the old Herse I briefly owned were as smooth as
>> the newer ones.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bruce Herbitter
>>  wrote:
>> > I've got over 4k miles on a set of white industries hubs and they still 
>> font
>> > need service
>> >
>> > Sent from my Kindle Fire
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Seth Vidal 
>> > Sent: Wed Mar 21 16:26:57 CDT 2012
>> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser  
>> wrote:
>> >> hello everyone
>> >>
>> >> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 
>> years
>> >> or
>> >> so.
>> >> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
>> >> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. 
>> I've
>> >> been
>> >> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
>> >> every
>> >> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
>> >> change.
>> >> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
>> >> explain that
>> >> to this group.
>> >> So, what 's the consensus?
>> >> best regards
>> >> tom
>> >>
>> >
>> > You have to service your hubs every 6 months??
>> >
>> > that seems... excessive.
>> > -sv
>> >
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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[newenglandbike]

I have at least 10K on a set of shimano deores (6K continental tour +2.5 
years commuting), re-laced them twice but didn't even clean them off, and 
they still spin silky smooth.   

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:47:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 11K on a set of Phils and they feel like new. 10K and 7 K in two
> (titanium!) bb assemblies, ditto. Heck, the --what, 30? 40? -- year
> old 3 piece Phils on the old Herse I briefly owned were as smooth as
> the newer ones.
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bruce Herbitter
>  wrote:
> > I've got over 4k miles on a set of white industries hubs and they still 
> font
> > need service
> >
> > Sent from my Kindle Fire
> >
> > 
> > From: Seth Vidal 
> > Sent: Wed Mar 21 16:26:57 CDT 2012
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser  
> wrote:
> >> hello everyone
> >>
> >> I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 
> years
> >> or
> >> so.
> >> different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
> >> I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. 
> I've
> >> been
> >> advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
> >> every
> >> six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
> >> change.
> >> This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
> >> explain that
> >> to this group.
> >> So, what 's the consensus?
> >> best regards
> >> tom
> >>
> >
> > You have to service your hubs every 6 months??
> >
> > that seems... excessive.
> > -sv
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks for the info, Peter. Wouldn't it be funny if we both replaced the 
same Homer frame with a new Sam? :)
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:06:10 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> Ok, just got off the phone with Mark over at Riv HQ who I had a awesome 
> talk with about bike fitting that was pretty illuminating. Long story short 
> though they will have the new Bleu color in stock in all sizes even though 
> as he said they have trouble moving the smaller ones but dealers and 
> whatnot requested it so get they got in done through the whole range of 
> sizes, except for the 64. That new bleu and the cream accents are a great 
> addition to a killer bike, almost thinking the unthinkable to sell my 
> beautiful Homer setup to fund a new Hillborne. Hmm
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Go for it, I'm lousy on the phone. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:16:51 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I only ask because all the ones I have seen pictured and grants 
>>> blug post mentions the the new color in relation to the two tt model.   I 
>>> guess one of us should just ring them up tomorrow,  sounds like a good 
>>> excuse to not work for a few minutes,  Haha. 
>>> On Mar 20, 2012 11:09 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>>
 I doubt it..no small Rivendells come with two tts. I presume the 48/52 
 remains uno-tubed.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:59:13 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right? 
> On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>
>> Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four 
>> sizes: 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I 
>> can order that gorgeous color in my size..
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>
>>> That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones 
>>> have the new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so 
>>> they 
>>> can eat some of the cost of the fancy paint job. 
>>> On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>>
 The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the 
 pre-sale bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they 
> would have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube 
> as a 
> way to keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" 
> Rivendells creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>  
> -Original Message- 
> From: William 
> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM 
> To: 
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>  
> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale 
>
> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the 
> color.  
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 
>>
>> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for 
>> pre- 
>> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time 
>> to 
>> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/**product**-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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