[RBW] FS: 1984 Trek 660, 56cm
Maybe you're thinking it would be nice to have a zippier ride. You like steel and lugs, and have a thing for classic technology. Maybe you're considering the Roadeo, but are having trouble pulling the trigger because, well, it is a significant investment. Maybe then, you'd consider a complete classic road bike, with Brooks saddle, Grand Bois tires, Noodles, good ol' standard diameter Reynolds 531 steel, and a pretty sweet Campy Nuevo Record drivetrain. No need to baby it. It's already broken in, so just let 'er rip. And its red, which is a pretty fast color... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2012/03/trek-660-needs-new-home.html If this is you, let's talk. Off list, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hlh5WaucoHcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Bleriot
The bike is still available. I have posted on my local craigslist sites. I would really like to not use eBay. Kris On Mar 28, 9:12 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: What a deal. somebody gonna be happy when they get this. On Mar 27, 7:06 pm, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: My Bleriot is just not getting ridden enough and the poor guy is hanging on a hook all day. I am the original owner and purchased directly from QBP when I worked at a shop. I am only selling to finance the purchase of a Salsa Fargo. I am the original owner and it's in great condition. It has the usual nicks but no significant scratches. The Honjo fenders have some dings, but still look great! There's some wear on the head badge as well. Build; 59 cm Bleriot frame and fork Shimano 600 headset Nitto Randonneur bar Nitto Technomic 110 stem Shimano R600 50/34 cranks Shimano Ultegra FD Shimano 105 RD Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters Tektro R556 side pull calipers Cane Creek brake levers Shimano LX/Velocity Synergy wheel set Nifty Swifty Tires Honjo Fenders Campagnolo Athena seatpost No pedals, saddle or cassette (which was used on my main road bike) $1300 + shipping - pics available for those interested. I'm in Asheville, NC if someone local is interested.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Bleriot
I forwarded your craigslist ad to a friend in Charlotte who has been talking about getting a Rivendell for ages. Your bike is his size. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:42:43 AM UTC-4, Kris wrote: The bike is still available. I have posted on my local craigslist sites. I would really like to not use eBay. Kris On Mar 28, 9:12 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: What a deal. somebody gonna be happy when they get this. On Mar 27, 7:06 pm, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: My Bleriot is just not getting ridden enough and the poor guy is hanging on a hook all day. I am the original owner and purchased directly from QBP when I worked at a shop. I am only selling to finance the purchase of a Salsa Fargo. I am the original owner and it's in great condition. It has the usual nicks but no significant scratches. The Honjo fenders have some dings, but still look great! There's some wear on the head badge as well. Build; 59 cm Bleriot frame and fork Shimano 600 headset Nitto Randonneur bar Nitto Technomic 110 stem Shimano R600 50/34 cranks Shimano Ultegra FD Shimano 105 RD Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters Tektro R556 side pull calipers Cane Creek brake levers Shimano LX/Velocity Synergy wheel set Nifty Swifty Tires Honjo Fenders Campagnolo Athena seatpost No pedals, saddle or cassette (which was used on my main road bike) $1300 + shipping - pics available for those interested. I'm in Asheville, NC if someone local is interested.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/82TQRvcatB0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Gearing question
In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 46 36 24 16 83 65 18 74 58 20 67 52 23 58 45 30 26 51 40 27 30 44 35 23 34 31 20 Proposed: 36 24 12 87 58 13 80 54 14 75 50 16 65 33 18 58 33 21 50 33 24 44 29 28 37 25 34 31 20 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Gearing question
I meant to add that in either I have the cruising gears (mid '60s for pavement, low 60 or upper 50s for dirt) in the middle of the big ring. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:39 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 46 36 24 16 83 65 18 74 58 20 67 52 23 58 45 30 26 51 40 27 30 44 35 23 34 31 20 Proposed: 36 24 12 87 58 13 80 54 14 75 50 16 65 33 18 58 33 21 50 33 24 44 29 28 37 25 34 31 20 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Maxy Fasty as a commuter tire
Greetings. My aging 650b Fatty Rumpkins have suffered yet another puncture and I'm thinking of switching over to a pair of new Maxy Fasties that I purchased on a whim a year or so ago. I commute mostly on paved bike trail, but have to ride for about two miles on light gravel. My question is whether the Fasties will hold up to this kind of use or whether I should buy another set of Rumpkins (which have been great tires, overall), or whether there is a better commuter tire out there for my Bleriot. Many thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gearing question
Looks good to me! I tried something similar for a while with a 34/22. Front derailer setup was fiddly. There was a fine line between getting it to shift to the big ring and shifting off to the outside of the big ring. I ended up switching to manual front shifting, then removed the rear derailer to make a sweet 2x3 setup (3 usable gears). Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maxy Fasty as a commuter tire
I run Maxy Fasties on my Protobleriot in the summer and ran Nifty Swifties for several years on my Saluki. This past winterless winter, I put Soma Xpresses on the Proto. I've also used Col de Vies on the Saluki. My bikes do service primarily as commuters between St. Paul and Minneaplis with a 20-mile round-trip. About half the commute is on a side street that is in rough shape pot-hole and crack-wise, and then there's ice and crusty snow. Only the Col de Vie has given me a flat, but a slow one. Were I in your situation, and I was looking at Maxy Fasties, I'd give a good long look at the Nifty Swifties as the tougher version but still slim (33). I am also liking the Soma Xpresses which I got for winter because they have more tread, were recommended on this list-serve, and were the biggest tire (~38) that the proto could take with fenders. Keep us posted... Liesl March-has-been-the-warmest-month-compared-to-average-in-history in minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
On Mar 28, 5:22 pm, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote: I'm short, I'm old, and I'm slow. I ride a 51 Bleriot and drive an '06 Miata. Life is good, I'm happy. Steve Me too! Well, mostly. I ride a 51 proto bleriot and a 50 saluki and drive an '06 Honda Element. That's at 5'2 and a PBH of 76 if I remember correctly. The one thing that I find a challenge about my little bikes is clearance between the saddle and a rack/fender for a biggish saddle bag, lil loafer in back, or a wald basket. Mostly I've gotten it to work and Mark's Rack is a god-send for a custom fit in the back. I had a battle getting a new Tubus Airy (which I am really liking for a go-less-slow bike) to fit on the chain-stay upper braze-ons because they were narrow, and forget about a pletscher on the little guys (does anyone have a secret about mounting one on a 50 frame?). A Carradice Barley is a great traditional saddlebag for a low saddle that has good room for daily use. And I agree with Pam. It's so hard to find a great-fitting beautiful little bike that once you find one, it does become a forever bike. liesl the-bike-lingerer in minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Gearing question
Got a lotta 33's. On Thursday, March 29, 2012, Joe Broach wrote: Looks good to me! I tried something similar for a while with a 34/22. Front derailer setup was fiddly. There was a fine line between getting it to shift to the big ring and shifting off to the outside of the big ring. I ended up switching to manual front shifting, then removed the rear derailer to make a sweet 2x3 setup (3 usable gears). Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Gearing question
24x16, 24x18, and 24x21 are not all 33 inch gears. Other than the math errors made by your personal assistant, I approve. 2x9 is the way to go for almost everybody, in my opinion. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:39:08 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 463624 168365 187458 206752 23584530 26514027 30443523 343120 Proposed: 3624 128758 138054 147550 166533 185833 215033 244429 283725 343120 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Fu6wd7yZ4yUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 660, 56cm
Pondero I'm in a similar situation with a 1984 770 in a 58 for sale. Also upgraded to Noodles and brakes that actually stop. If any of your interested parties decide they'd rather have a 58, I'd sincerely appreciate the referral. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629612770747/ Bill On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:29:07 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Maybe you're thinking it would be nice to have a zippier ride. You like steel and lugs, and have a thing for classic technology. Maybe you're considering the Roadeo, but are having trouble pulling the trigger because, well, it is a significant investment. Maybe then, you'd consider a complete classic road bike, with Brooks saddle, Grand Bois tires, Noodles, good ol' standard diameter Reynolds 531 steel, and a pretty sweet Campy Nuevo Record drivetrain. No need to baby it. It's already broken in, so just let 'er rip. And its red, which is a pretty fast color... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2012/03/trek-660-needs-new-home.html If this is you, let's talk. Off list, of course. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:29:07 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Maybe you're thinking it would be nice to have a zippier ride. You like steel and lugs, and have a thing for classic technology. Maybe you're considering the Roadeo, but are having trouble pulling the trigger because, well, it is a significant investment. Maybe then, you'd consider a complete classic road bike, with Brooks saddle, Grand Bois tires, Noodles, good ol' standard diameter Reynolds 531 steel, and a pretty sweet Campy Nuevo Record drivetrain. No need to baby it. It's already broken in, so just let 'er rip. And its red, which is a pretty fast color... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2012/03/trek-660-needs-new-home.html If this is you, let's talk. Off list, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e8T9DBwevjUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 660, 56cm
Pondero If you have an interested party who wants one size larger, I'd appreciate the referral http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629612770747/ 1984 770 58cm. Switched to noodles, dual pivot brakes, compact double. open pro clinchers. No Brooks, though. Bill On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:29:07 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Maybe you're thinking it would be nice to have a zippier ride. You like steel and lugs, and have a thing for classic technology. Maybe you're considering the Roadeo, but are having trouble pulling the trigger because, well, it is a significant investment. Maybe then, you'd consider a complete classic road bike, with Brooks saddle, Grand Bois tires, Noodles, good ol' standard diameter Reynolds 531 steel, and a pretty sweet Campy Nuevo Record drivetrain. No need to baby it. It's already broken in, so just let 'er rip. And its red, which is a pretty fast color... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2012/03/trek-660-needs-new-home.html If this is you, let's talk. Off list, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ct7XK5_WcnEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 660, 56cm
That's twice I tried reply to author. My apologies if you all are seeing it. That was intended to be an off-list message. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:32:22 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Pondero If you have an interested party who wants one size larger, I'd appreciate the referral http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629612770747/ 1984 770 58cm. Switched to noodles, dual pivot brakes, compact double. open pro clinchers. No Brooks, though. Bill On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:29:07 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Maybe you're thinking it would be nice to have a zippier ride. You like steel and lugs, and have a thing for classic technology. Maybe you're considering the Roadeo, but are having trouble pulling the trigger because, well, it is a significant investment. Maybe then, you'd consider a complete classic road bike, with Brooks saddle, Grand Bois tires, Noodles, good ol' standard diameter Reynolds 531 steel, and a pretty sweet Campy Nuevo Record drivetrain. No need to baby it. It's already broken in, so just let 'er rip. And its red, which is a pretty fast color... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2012/03/trek-660-needs-new-home.html If this is you, let's talk. Off list, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GPzHvbxXbLMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Gearing question
If you you go 2x11, then it will go to 11. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:15:49 PM UTC-4, William wrote: 24x16, 24x18, and 24x21 are not all 33 inch gears. Other than the math errors made by your personal assistant, I approve. 2x9 is the way to go for almost everybody, in my opinion. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:39:08 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 463624 168365 187458 206752 23584530 26514027 30443523 343120 Proposed: 3624 128758 138054 147550 166533 185833 215033 244429 283725 343120 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/czgrZhXU4SwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maxy Fasty as a commuter tire
My policy on tires is the following: Buy tires anytime you see tires that you can't resist buying, and put them in inventory. In other words, never 'shop' for tires when you need them, but always keep your eyes open for cool tires. When you need tires, always get them from internal inventory Experiment with everything in internal inventory. Swap tires around with abandon, anytime the urge hits. So, if you follow my stupid policy, then absolutely put on the Fasties and try them out. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:54:53 AM UTC-7, kevin lindsey wrote: Greetings. My aging 650b Fatty Rumpkins have suffered yet another puncture and I'm thinking of switching over to a pair of new Maxy Fasties that I purchased on a whim a year or so ago. I commute mostly on paved bike trail, but have to ride for about two miles on light gravel. My question is whether the Fasties will hold up to this kind of use or whether I should buy another set of Rumpkins (which have been great tires, overall), or whether there is a better commuter tire out there for my Bleriot. Many thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/x5tMowjCFA4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Gearing question
Patrick: I dunno if you've achieved your goal ...to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, One has 12 different gears and the other 11; doesn't seem too meaningful a difference, as long as you've got the range you want. Assuming you'll use the same 36T 24T rings, and that they shift OK now, seems like a simplification if anything. Your proposed 9 speed looks nicely progressive. Heck, just stick on the 9 speed and ride it for a while before bothering messing with the crankset. A couple of turns of the FD adjustment screw you've got a double. dougP On Mar 29, 7:39 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 46 36 24 16 83 65 18 74 58 20 67 52 23 58 45 30 26 51 40 27 30 44 35 23 34 31 20 Proposed: 36 24 12 87 58 13 80 54 14 75 50 16 65 33 18 58 33 21 50 33 24 44 29 28 37 25 34 31 20 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Trek 1984 620 Frame and Fork, rack and cages (24 frame)
If anyone has a similar steel frame/fork sized anywhere from 55-58 (ST) who would like to trade for this Trek 620 frame/fork/rack and cages, i'm open to trading. The 24 frame is just too big for me. Thanks so much! -kps -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tgSwtFd2RHgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Bring a pen. Otherwise, have a nice time on the bike, just like always. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:10:06 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZGgKIuSHw3QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Maybe UV even affects bars? From the next to last Blug: Nitto says any aluminum handlebar that's ten years old should be replaced. Aluminum degrades when it's exposed to the elements, and soyou also might not want to ride your twenty-five year old French handlebars that were made when there were mild standards if any to pass. The same for 20-year old Cinelli drop bars. It all depends. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pesce Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks? That's a good point, Jim. I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now. If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess. I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV defense too in the bargain. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Do any of these covers provide UV protection? Is UV an issue for a leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors. We are at 5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer. Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely concerned about this as summer approaches. Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote: I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both. They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle. On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0xGEK9ifiLUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Hi Manny. If you are used to doing 40-mile-plus-type rides, then you have nothing to worry about. Just wear what you normally wear and ride like you normally ride. Eat what you normally eat. To add on to Esteban's advice, also bring a plastic sandwich bag to hold your brevet card, receipts, and the pen. It keeps them together and it'll help with the forecasted rains :) Have fun! Lee On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maxy Fasty as a commuter tire
I hadn't realized it until you articulated it. But that's clearly my policy as well. On Mar 29, 2:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My policy on tires is the following: Buy tires anytime you see tires that you can't resist buying, and put them in inventory. In other words, never 'shop' for tires when you need them, but always keep your eyes open for cool tires. When you need tires, always get them from internal inventory Experiment with everything in internal inventory. Swap tires around with abandon, anytime the urge hits. So, if you follow my stupid policy, then absolutely put on the Fasties and try them out. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:54:53 AM UTC-7, kevin lindsey wrote: Greetings. My aging 650b Fatty Rumpkins have suffered yet another puncture and I'm thinking of switching over to a pair of new Maxy Fasties that I purchased on a whim a year or so ago. I commute mostly on paved bike trail, but have to ride for about two miles on light gravel. My question is whether the Fasties will hold up to this kind of use or whether I should buy another set of Rumpkins (which have been great tires, overall), or whether there is a better commuter tire out there for my Bleriot. Many thanks, Kevin- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Gearing question
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 08:39 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: In a frantic attempt to make the perfectly accessible into something more complicated, I ask whether the 2X9 gearing below I propose for my (very Rivish in philosophy if not Rivendellianly lugged) has any drawbacks compared to the current 3X7 setup. 1. Chain, chain ring and sprocket life is going to be less. 2. You are never going to use that 24 with anything smaller than a 21T sprocket, so you might as well plot the chart reflecting how you're going to use it, the way you did with the triple. It will make the true shifting pattern more obvious; the current chart obfuscates it, and makes it seem as though you're going to be using the two rings equally when in reality you will be using it as a 1x9 + granny. Current: (Big Apple wheelset, 29 diameter.) 46 36 24 1683 65 1874 58 2067 52 2358 45 30 2651 40 27 3044 35 23 3431 20 Proposed: 36 24 1287 58 1380 54 1475 50 1665 33 1858 33 2150 33 2444 29 2837 25 3431 20 Thanks. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Manny I'll find you. We'll hang out. It'll be a ball Bill On Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:10:06 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wrPx0PC3jpMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Bring a rain coat and dry clothes: http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/USCA0887 From: Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, March 29, 2012 12:10:06 PM Subject: [RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thinning the herd some more. FS a Roadish Rivish Racingish Lugged Steel ride
...and it's on ebay now starting at $750. http://www.ebay.com/itm/260992448844?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_586wt_1344 Funny, I had the word Rivendell in the title, since I bought a lot of the parts from Rivendell and it's a notably Riv-ish build. Within an hour ebay took it down saying I'm misleading buyers by having Rivendell in the title of a bike that is not a Rivendell. I admit that's true, and I know some searchers will be a little annoyed, but dude, as somebody who searches rivendell almost daily on ebay, I'm shocked that they took my listing down, when it's a really common practice to list non-Rivs with Rivendell in the title. I'm a victim! :) On Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:12:13 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Up for sale is a modern classic road bike. I acquired this 1984 Trek 770 from the original owner off craigslist. I old off the original campy bits through the usual channels to finance a much more contemporary Rivish build. That bike helped convince me that my previous road bike was too small for me and it convinced me that I wanted to run 700x28 tires (or wider). Now that I've acquired a bike that will take wide tires and fenders, I can let go of this classic bike. I'd love to sell it locally, since it's so expensive to ship a bike. I'm asking $800. Shipping would be extra, but I'll gladly deliver it in the Bay Area. It's a 58cm Trek 770. Reynolds 531 standard diameter butted tubing. Campy dropouts Campy super record headset and seatpost Stock avocet saddle NOS Specialized sealed bearing hubs laced to contemporary Mavic Open Pro silver rims, 32 hole DT spokes 7 speed NOS Sachs Aris FW 12-28 Maxxis 700x25 tires Shimano 105 dual pivot brakes Tektro R200 levers Suntour retrofriction shifters Suntour XC pro front der Shimano XT short cage rear der SRAM chain Sugino XD2 double crankset 172.5mm 48/34. Cartridge BB No pedals Let me know if you have any questions. Pics here. As pictured, 75.5cm seat height. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629612770747/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fIRe6HJeyFYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: new Brooks Swift in Antique Brown steel rails
it's sold. Thannks. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:00:14 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I picked this up a while ago with plans for the sporty bike. I decided to stick with my trusted B17 Special so I need to sell this, Brand new in the box with wrench and cover. The Antique brown is a beautiful color. $110 with shipping included in Cont. USA. Pls contact me offline ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JfJk7ej6Y38J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Gearing question
Thanks for the commentary. I like the fact that the 36 will handle 9/10 of the work with the 24 just as an occasional bailout. Do those of you who use such small rings find that the rings, cogs and chain wear much more quickly? Now I need to pick up some cogsets for disassembly and re-arrangement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I've used a Nitto bag lifter to put a big bag on a small bike. It attaches to the seat post On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: On Mar 28, 5:22 pm, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote: The one thing that I find a challenge about my little bikes is clearance between the saddle and a rack/fender for a biggish saddle bag, -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
Manny, As I read the weather forecast I'd say Splats and fenders may be in order. Have fun. Have you dragooned any of your students into this? ;) JimD On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Manuel Acosta wrote: Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne
I've had some trouble finding a frame pump for my new 64 cm Sam Hillborne. I ordered an HPX 4, thinking it was sure to fit with the enormous tube lengths on there, but it's actually too big to fit with the pump peg, and too small to fit snugly under the lower top tube. I'd really like to use the HPX as my frame pump, and I'm wondering if the best option is to just strap the 4 on the lower tube with some sort of velcro attachment? Anybody know what would be best to use if that's the answer? Also, does anybody have a smaller HPX that works with the pump peg, or any other good frame pump for that matter? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne
Zefal used to make a black plastic clamp-on pump peg for this type of situation. Or you can track down an old chrome-plated Campy clamp-on peg. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 4S On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Mike On A Bike shaljia...@guilford.edu wrote: I've had some trouble finding a frame pump for my new 64 cm Sam Hillborne. I ordered an HPX 4, thinking it was sure to fit with the enormous tube lengths on there, but it's actually too big to fit with the pump peg, and too small to fit snugly under the lower top tube. I'd really like to use the HPX as my frame pump, and I'm wondering if the best option is to just strap the 4 on the lower tube with some sort of velcro attachment? Anybody know what would be best to use if that's the answer? Also, does anybody have a smaller HPX that works with the pump peg, or any other good frame pump for that matter? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
I am planning to go too. It will be my first time also. I was originally planning to ride on my roadeo but I only have fenders on the rambouillet. I'm not that fast but I'll ride with ya all. Look for the blue rambouillet with ranger tan acorn bags. Stephen On Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:10:06 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not. More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with someone who knows what their doing. -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/32GedHbl94QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday
I'm still trying to egg one of my students into doing this. But he might be in trouble for riding up Mt.Hamiliton after school. He posted it about it so I quote: Most supidest thing ive EVER doen: so it was late after school today and i decided to go for a ride next thing i know is that i feel good and decide to go for longer. I ended up doing Mt.Hamilton in a dark decent... There was still snow in the summit and all i had was a tank and t-shirt over it. No beanie no full finger gloves no jacket nothing! It was dark and i was half was down the decent. Have you guys head of albino killers in that county?? Well i have and i was cared out of my mind! Never doing that again! Plus i get home and i get in trouble. These kids now a days, I wonder where they get these outragest ideas. BTW I'll be riding my non-fender college road bike. Look for me in splats and rain jacket. Stephen and William I'll see you there. 71 miles in the rain sounds fun. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne
Do you mean your pump isn't long enough to fit under the top...or is the bottom top tube longer? What are the lengths of the two tubes? I've got a boatload of pumps that should work on one of them. Rob On Mar 29, 7:55 pm, Mike On A Bike shaljia...@guilford.edu wrote: I've had some trouble finding a frame pump for my new 64 cm Sam Hillborne. I ordered an HPX 4, thinking it was sure to fit with the enormous tube lengths on there, but it's actually too big to fit with the pump peg, and too small to fit snugly under the lower top tube. I'd really like to use the HPX as my frame pump, and I'm wondering if the best option is to just strap the 4 on the lower tube with some sort of velcro attachment? Anybody know what would be best to use if that's the answer? Also, does anybody have a smaller HPX that works with the pump peg, or any other good frame pump for that matter? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freddie Hoffman's HANDLEBARS
I read this issue last night and couldn't find any reference to a specific model. In the Freddies Gear article it refers to them as steel roadster style. Fun reading though...what's he up to today? On Mar 27, 10:50 am, Charlie charliepe...@verizon.net wrote: Trying to remember what handlebars Fredie used . I do remember they were WALD brand. But do not recall the model number, that was published in READER # 7 ? Thanks for any help Charlie P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
