[RBW] Re: Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
My gearing is a White double16 -19 and 36x39 giving me a 66,60 and 51 inch gear. I plan on a 22 tooth freewheel eventually for the flip side for those real long climbs. I usually leave my SimpleOne in the 66 inch gear but my area is pretty hilly so I sometimes find myself using the 36x19 giving me the 51. Since my gearing is exactly three teeth apart I don't have to move the axle in the dropout going from the 16x39=66 to the 19x36=51. I tried as an experiment to ride a local hilly and flat 15 mile loop in the 51 at a relaxed pace and while somewhat frustrating on the flat it wasn't bad. I just found myself coasting a little more than usual. I think the idea is to find a gear that you can make it up most modest hills in your area and that you can also spin at a comfortable cruising speed on the flats withmaybe 12-18 mph. If you are a 'hammerhead' that will frustrate you but its better for your knees. A bailout gear that is lower or one for headwinds (or when feeling tired) is nice to have and I use mine about 20% of the time and am glad I have it. On Apr 30, 5:55 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: For the folks that have one of these on their Quickbeam or SimpleOne - do you actually swap gears that much? Am thinking of a 17/19 for my SimpleOne. Besides worrying about clearance issues am just wondering if it would get used enough to justify the price. There are not a lot of long climbs in the Twin Cities, but in other parts of the state, a 2 mile or more climb is not unheard of. Also thinking it might be good for a bail out on a windy day. Or really steep shorter hills. As my SimpleOne has metal fenders, this seems a more appropriate choice that flip/flop freewheels. Have also considered a Dingle fixed cog setup. Not willing to try that right now. The idea of superfast spinning on downhills just doesn't appeal. Thanks in advance for any opinions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Commute Adventures - Sometimes More Than Bargained For
Bunny hopping on a commuter is tough. I'm retired now but I found the nearly constant road construction on my commute the single most challenging part of commuting. It never gets mentioned in the encouraging blogs. Sorry to read about the Foss tubes; I've had high hopes for mine. Michael On Monday, April 30, 2012 11:37:31 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote: Ok, following my enthusiasm for commute adventures post. This morning Karma reared it's inevitable head. As I approached work there were cones in the road to keep cars out of one lane where roadwork was being done. With fast traffic on my tail I went into the coned off area so that all the busy commuters could get past me. All was well until I saw a sharp cut channel ~ a foot wide cut in the tarmac. My bunny hop was pretty pathetic, saved a disaster but snake bit my rear tube. Those Foss tubes aren't any better with snake bites than standard tech tubes. Adventure is one of those things that doesn't always work to the adventurers advantage. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aFQ8FIfU2ZQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
I shift my quickbeam quite a bit, which I guess seems to be unusual among QB/SO owners when these threads come up, but I'm not really sure why. I have a White 16/19 fw, a 22t ACS on the other side, and the stock QB crank with 40/32 rings. For riding more than 15 miles, I use 40/16, and this is mainly for going to work which is 15 or 17 miles if I go the longer way. For the riding in the city of boston, or with my significant other, I'll switch to 40/19, which takes about 5 seconds.Sometimes also use that for long rides too when I'm not in a hurry. When we go in the woods, which we do often thankfully, I flip the rear wheel and ride 40/22 to get to the trails (20 seconds), then do another 5-second change to 32/22 at the trailhead if it's a hilly, rocky, root-heavy trail, which in New England they generally are. I really enjoy the concept of the QB and feel that it works great exactly as the ad copy originally described- switching gears now and then, but benefiting from the simpleness, quietness, and one-speedness of a single speed most of the time. I have derailleured bicycles too, but riding a QB is sufficiently different and pleasant, in additional ways that I can't easily explain, to justify its design. -Matt On Monday, April 30, 2012 8:55:52 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: For the folks that have one of these on their Quickbeam or SimpleOne - do you actually swap gears that much? Am thinking of a 17/19 for my SimpleOne. Besides worrying about clearance issues am just wondering if it would get used enough to justify the price. There are not a lot of long climbs in the Twin Cities, but in other parts of the state, a 2 mile or more climb is not unheard of. Also thinking it might be good for a bail out on a windy day. Or really steep shorter hills. As my SimpleOne has metal fenders, this seems a more appropriate choice that flip/flop freewheels. Have also considered a Dingle fixed cog setup. Not willing to try that right now. The idea of superfast spinning on downhills just doesn't appeal. Thanks in advance for any opinions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AI9XTdJrRUEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
P.S. for shifting gears when there isn't a stick laying around- which there is most of the time-I have used the following at various times: 5mm allen key from saddlebag pocket, 90% of time pocket knife, left the allen key on workbench Kryptonite lock key, didn't have my knife Pencil I find that the trick when flipping the rear wheel is to grab it by the tire with your fingertips rather than grabbing the rim, to avoid getting brake/road grime all over your hand. But yeah, your fingers get a little dirt on them when flipping the wheel.I wipe them off on the grass or my pantleg.For flipping the bike over to do this with a basket on it, that's where bungee nets come in. On Monday, April 30, 2012 8:55:52 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: For the folks that have one of these on their Quickbeam or SimpleOne - do you actually swap gears that much? Am thinking of a 17/19 for my SimpleOne. Besides worrying about clearance issues am just wondering if it would get used enough to justify the price. There are not a lot of long climbs in the Twin Cities, but in other parts of the state, a 2 mile or more climb is not unheard of. Also thinking it might be good for a bail out on a windy day. Or really steep shorter hills. As my SimpleOne has metal fenders, this seems a more appropriate choice that flip/flop freewheels. Have also considered a Dingle fixed cog setup. Not willing to try that right now. The idea of superfast spinning on downhills just doesn't appeal. Thanks in advance for any opinions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s0IrRjXuxNMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I Like Commuting On My Bike
From 2006 through most of 2011, my commute to Hiawatha Cyclery was a 2 minute walk. Because of changing life circumstances, I moved last Fall to where I have a 5 mile one-way commute, which is lovely. Minneapolis is an extremely bike-friendly city, and I live in one of the bike-friendliest neighborhoods in this fair city, and it boggles my mind that cars passing on my street outnumber bikes probably 50-1. I can't imagine driving everyday because riding my bike seems SO much easier and more pleasant, even in winter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YmeZkdmgoXUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Marks Rack Rear Mounted Question
When I got my QB, I asked Riv to mount a Mark's Rack on the rear for exactly the purpose you suggest -- a Lil' Loafer, for tools, tubes and stuff. They used the struts only, no diving board, and it worked great, very solid. My default setting is that if Riv does it that way, it's ok by me. No pics, sorry; I'm using a Carradice Bagman and a saddlebag now for additional capacity. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter M Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:12 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Marks Rack Rear Mounted Question Question on mounting new Marks Rack in the rear. I see some pics have the diving board and the two sets of struts mounted while some just have the support struts and no diving board when mounting in the rear. I am just putting on a small trunksack so it doesnt need to be super strong since I have the platrack setup on the front and all for lugging. I would mount the platrack in the rear but with the trail a bike I wouldnt be able to use it when I lug my kid around too. Thanks for any and all advice. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
I have shifted my DOS-ENO equipped Quickbeam exactly once -- to road test how much easier my low (32/19) gear was, in anticipation of using it on the initial 20+ mile climb on Riv Rally East 2012. (As it turned out, the RRE single speed contingent both made the climb in our normal gears -- 40/16 and 46/19, respectively, both around 65 or 66 gear inches.) I ride my QB on my commute (4-5 miles, mostly downhill to work, mostly uphill home), and I would echo other comments -- you'd be surprised what you can learn to be comfortable climbing in your normal gear. I'm out of the saddle quite a bit on the way home (both for some short steep climbs and some longer less rigorous ones), but I've come actually to enjoy the honest work. Cleanses work-related tension. There is one very short very steep trail climb that I've never managed without 15 or 20 yards of walking, but I keep trying every day -- the definition of insanity. I also ride the QB on 15-25 mile weekend rides with some serious rollers, and again I don't shift -- just tough out the climbs, which are steeper than on my commute, but never more than maybe 1000 meters. So recognizing that my local topography is reasonably well-suited to a SS, I still feel constrained to say that without ever having shifted it, the Quickbeam is my favorite of all my bikes -- so much so that I bought a SimpleOne as a new commuter, and will modify the QB to be a sort of gofast SS. I love them both. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:56 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel For the folks that have one of these on their Quickbeam or SimpleOne - do you actually swap gears that much? Am thinking of a 17/19 for my SimpleOne. Besides worrying about clearance issues am just wondering if it would get used enough to justify the price. There are not a lot of long climbs in the Twin Cities, but in other parts of the state, a 2 mile or more climb is not unheard of. Also thinking it might be good for a bail out on a windy day. Or really steep shorter hills. As my SimpleOne has metal fenders, this seems a more appropriate choice that flip/flop freewheels. Have also considered a Dingle fixed cog setup. Not willing to try that right now. The idea of superfast spinning on downhills just doesn't appeal. Thanks in advance for any opinions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7DCYF27FD4kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
Andy, I notice you've started a separate thread... I do hope it's not because you feel unwelcome on the other thread (hah!!!) BTW, maybe we also need Retro Rally... ride your favorite classic (older) bike. Peace, BB On Apr 28, 10:53 am, Andrew Carpenter andycar...@gmail.com wrote: I was one of the renegade Non-Riv riders on the recent tour. I felt very welcomed by all the riders. It was a great group of people and we had a lot in common, especially the love of riding on two wheels. I didn't sense any feelings of less or more because of the brand of bike being ridden. I admire people that are passionate about finely crafted and designed bikes. Nice to know that the interest in steel frames and classic bike gear is alive and well in Riv riders! Because of brands like Rivendell the revival of classic touring bikes is making a come-back with bikes like the Kogswell, Gunnar, Salsa, and Surly. That's one thing I like about cycling is that in most cases nobody talks another person down because of their choices of bike manufacturer. I ride regularly with people that ride bikes worth a great deal of money and they still admire my 10 year old steel and titanium bikes. In fact a number of my fellow Riv riders commented that they had a Surly LHT as a second or third bike and that is was a tremendous value for the money. I came as an invited guest of a wonderful friend that thought I'd enjoy the ride (we did the whole CO and GAP trail together three years ago) again and to finally get to see the scenery before the Divide since the last time we rode it the rain and fog kept the scenery out of view. I'm so glad I came and got to see the sights despite the threat of rain, snow and cold temps. I feel that it doesn't' matter what brand of bike you ride, but your approach to cycling. That is, touring versus racing. As I've aged I prefer touring and self-supported rides. Again thanks to the welcoming and great group of guys, and BobbyB for organizing the tour (are there any women that would like to join us? We won't bite or geek out too much). I plan on being back to ride a RivTour whether if I can afford a Rivendell or not. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Showers Pass Stuff On Sale
The showers pass stuff isn't on there anymore, but there are some icebreaker jerseys now. (the site rotates stuff out, so it's only available for a few days, that's why the SP stuff is gone, just wanted to make a note in case people looked and were like 'there is no showers pass stuff here, what gives?') On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:50:18 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: Hey - I am a riv owner and relatively regular poster here, also a member of this thing called The Clymb which is like a daily deal site for outdoor/adventure gear. They have a bunch of Showers Pass gear on sale right now (like 55% off) and I thought you guys might be interested. If you use my link I get a 10 dollar credit, which i'd appreciate, but i more just wanted to let you guys know in case anyone was interested: http://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/ZackLuby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HHfgTIoJ4GYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction Shifters issue
The stop thingy is only used when that shifter is mounted on the downtube. You were right to re-use the round one without the stop thingy on your bar-con pod. On Monday, April 30, 2012 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: looseness of the bolt isn't the issue. I thought it was, but I'd really reef it down, and a few miles later, the shifter would just lose it. This has been an intermittent problem since I originally took delivery of the bike in July 2010. In any case, the original vendor was Velo Orange, so I started there. I sent them an email, and they sent me a replacement right shifter! Next weekend should be a long ride on that bike, so I'll get to verify the fix. Still trying to figure out why the washer between the pod and the shifter has that stop thingy. The original washer was just round, and I re-used it. Cheers, Lynne F On Apr 30, 6:24 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: A little blue Loctite on the bolt's threads will fix this problem. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: This happens occasionally on mine too. I just tighten it and it's fine. I thought that's the way they work. I'll be taking it in for a tuneup and have them looked at. It only happens once every few months and I just tighten a slight bit. I thought they just worked themselves loose over time. Tell me if they are defective. On Apr 23, 1:27 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I have the Silver shifters (bar end) on my bike. They, not to put to fine a point on it - slip. All of a sudden I'll be on the smallest cog, usually when I don't want to be there. I did just replace the washers, and reefed them down tightly. They still slip. It is very strange - they'll slip, then they'll stay where I put them for a good long while, then they'll slip again. If I pull the rear shifter all the way up (largest cog), it will usually re-engage. For awhile, anyway. I am wondering if it really is the shifters, or some other part in the system (cable, rear der). The bike is going in to the shop, but if there is any wisdom out there, I'd very much like to hear it. Thanks much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp:// resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WLS4pbYtsWgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Carradice Saddlebag SQR Uplift
Nice quick-release bag mount to keep your saddle-mounted bag stable and off the rear wheel. Lightly used, but in excellent condition. Info here: http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/racks/carradice-saddlebag-sqr-uplift The SQR Uplift goes for $66 plus shipping at Wallbike ... this one can be yours for $45 shipped. --Eric N www.campyonly.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 2012 Nine to Five Scavenger Hunt Registration 6/16/12
I'll be doing this ride if anyone is interested. My team may already be set but we could end up with multiple teams. June 16th 2012, 7:30pm we'll gather at Gasworks Park. There you'll pick up your scavenger hunt pack, we'll take a big ol' photo of all attendees. At 9pm- you're off! Ride all night in Seattle’s only all-bicycle sunset-to-sunrise scavenger hunt! Organize your team of up to five or ride solo to complete/collect as many items as you can before sun up while joining group meetups throughout the night for caffeine and snacks, and a full breakfast in the morning. A celebration of our city and bicycles! Register early for chances to win prizes from an impressive list of sponsors. Event is rain or shine - just like the solstice! There are no refunds for this event. If you can't show up, let us know if someone else will be taking your place. http://gomeansgo.bigcartel.com/product/2012-9-to-5-scavenger-hunt-registration -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/973FhoX4BDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *PATRICK MOORE *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch *Subject:* [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:23 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. If it's a joke, doesn't that constitute fair use? On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? __ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
Since it being used by a business to sell products towards a profit it doenst fall under parody or public use. Of course there are a fair bit of these circumstances and the legal depts of these companies choose just to ingore it since it is somewhat a case of free adverstising and if done tastefully like this one can almost enhance the brand. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:23 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. If it's a joke, doesn't that constitute fair use? On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? __ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because
[RBW] WTT: Banana Bag for nice, largish frame bag.
I have a nice BB whose principal defect is that it is dirty. Photos below. I am looking for a frame bag that holds more than the BB; something like those that follow. Note that the bag must fit into a 17 Fargo frame, either at the front or rear end. http://joecruz.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/p1000397.jpg http://www.discountramps.com/cargoImages/bicycle-bag-5.jpg http://tinyurl.com/8y83qm2 I also have this very nice canvas/leather/wood tubular (shape) bag: http://tinyurl.com/d339zvp that is currently trying hard to be a frame bag but is simply too wide for best. Am willing to trade higher value bag for good lower value bag (example, that Nashbar bag is $8) with adjustments, eg. trader pays my shipping. Reply OFFLIST, please. Thanks. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
I suspect it will be below the radar. Although there is probably a huge intersection of the sets of Tiff and Riv owners... From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC Since it being used by a business to sell products towards a profit it doenst fall under parody or public use. Of course there are a fair bit of these circumstances and the legal depts of these companies choose just to ingore it since it is somewhat a case of free adverstising and if done tastefully like this one can almost enhance the brand. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.commailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:23 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. If it's a joke, doesn't that constitute fair use? On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.commailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? __ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000tel:%28212%29%20735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
[RBW] Re: WTT: Banana Bag for nice, largish frame bag.
More photos of the tube-shaped bag here: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale# The canvas is thinner than that of the B Bag but still good quality cotton. This holds more than the BB. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I have a nice BB whose principal defect is that it is dirty. Photos below. I am looking for a frame bag that holds more than the BB; something like those that follow. Note that the bag must fit into a 17 Fargo frame, either at the front or rear end. http://joecruz.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/p1000397.jpg http://www.discountramps.com/cargoImages/bicycle-bag-5.jpg http://tinyurl.com/8y83qm2 I also have this very nice canvas/leather/wood tubular (shape) bag: http://tinyurl.com/d339zvp that is currently trying hard to be a frame bag but is simply too wide for best. Am willing to trade higher value bag for good lower value bag (example, that Nashbar bag is $8) with adjustments, eg. trader pays my shipping. Reply OFFLIST, please. Thanks. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
I suspect it won't stay under the radar, unfortunately. I suspect the big T is very protective of anyone using their name and their trade dress blue to enhance the perceived value of another product. Think of all the mass confusion and grievous harm that will result as deceived consumers flock to Fifth Avenue to try to buy lugged bicycles! On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 3:33:47 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: I suspect it will be below the radar. Although there is probably a huge intersection of the sets of Tiff and Riv owners... -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:33 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC Since it being used by a business to sell products towards a profit it doenst fall under parody or public use. Of course there are a fair bit of these circumstances and the legal depts of these companies choose just to ingore it since it is somewhat a case of free adverstising and if done tastefully like this one can almost enhance the brand. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:23 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. If it's a joke, doesn't that constitute fair use? On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? __ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received
Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
Haha, I will take a walk by later with my bike and see if anyone will buy it for 40k, private viewing sessions offered, of course. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect it won't stay under the radar, unfortunately. I suspect the big T is very protective of anyone using their name and their trade dress blue to enhance the perceived value of another product. Think of all the mass confusion and grievous harm that will result as deceived consumers flock to Fifth Avenue to try to buy lugged bicycles! On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 3:33:47 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: I suspect it will be below the radar. Although there is probably a huge intersection of the sets of Tiff and Riv owners... -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com[mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@**googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:33 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC Since it being used by a business to sell products towards a profit it doenst fall under parody or public use. Of course there are a fair bit of these circumstances and the legal depts of these companies choose just to ingore it since it is somewhat a case of free adverstising and if done tastefully like this one can almost enhance the brand. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:23 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: As someone who works in the legal field I couldnt help but wonder the same thing as well. Hopefully this is below the radar of their copyright enforcement division. If it's a joke, doesn't that constitute fair use? On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Wonder whether that jewelry establishment on 5th Ave cleared use of the blue box, or Riv is going rogue? __**__ **__ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Cute Riv ad on BSNYC ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/**1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . --**-- **-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any
[RBW] Re: 2012 Nine to Five Scavenger Hunt Registration 6/16/12
I'm sorry to be missing this this year. Last years event was one of the most fun times I've ever had atop a bicycle. Totally recommended! On May 1, 11:02 am, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be doing this ride if anyone is interested. My team may already be set but we could end up with multiple teams. June 16th 2012, 7:30pm we'll gather at Gasworks Park. There you'll pick up your scavenger hunt pack, we'll take a big ol' photo of all attendees. At 9pm- you're off! Ride all night in Seattle’s only all-bicycle sunset-to-sunrise scavenger hunt! Organize your team of up to five or ride solo to complete/collect as many items as you can before sun up while joining group meetups throughout the night for caffeine and snacks, and a full breakfast in the morning. A celebration of our city and bicycles! Register early for chances to win prizes from an impressive list of sponsors. Event is rain or shine - just like the solstice! There are no refunds for this event. If you can't show up, let us know if someone else will be taking your place. http://gomeansgo.bigcartel.com/product/2012-9-to-5-scavenger-hunt-reg... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saddles for Sale
Selle San Marcos and Avocet. Photos and info here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/7215762957954/with/7133452615/ --Eric N www.campyonly.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally midwest and Grant's visit and other bike stuff to do in Minneapolis at that time
For those interested in making hotel reservations for the overnight in Wabasha on June 2, I've been told that the website of the biggest hotel there, Americinn, shows that the place is booked. I've also been told that the website is inaccurate and that there may be still rooms available, but you'll have to call them to reserve a room. [800] 634.3444 I'm planning to camp at the city park, and there should be plenty of space for your tent there, too, if the hotel thing doesn't work out for one reason or another. On Monday, April 23, 2012 12:47:16 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: We managed to schedule Grant's book-signing visit for May 31 at Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis, MN, which dovetails nicely into the Midwest Riv rally that begins the following day, June 1 in Red Wing, MN. It's going to be a solid 4-5 days of Riv-ish bike fun. And you're invited! Here's some detail. Thursday, May 31. I believe the book-signing is scheduled for 6-7:30 PM. I'm going to provide grilled sausages/burgers and/or pulled pork and fancy beer and probably have potluck for the rest. I'm aiming to feed 50 mouths, but maybe 100, who knows! Come by the shop starting around 4-5 pm, and be hungry and ready to talk bikes and look at bikes and ride around on bikes. By pure coincidence, local bike company Salsa Cycles is sponsoring a film at nearby Riverview Theater the same evening. http://revealthepath.com/ I would have hated to miss this, but there is a 9pm showing for the film. We can do the book signing thing with Grant, then anybody who's interested can ride over to the theater (which is an old-timey neighborhood movie theater, not a modern shopping mall cineplex). If past experience is an indicator, attending bike films at the Riverview with several hundred Minneapolis bike nuts and bike industry types will be really, really fun. Seriously, this is going to be a spectacular evening for bike people. Friday, June 1: I'll be leaving in the morning to ride down to Red Wing to meet and greet out-of-towners who are joining the Midwest Riv Rally. You can ride down with me if you want to. The ride to Red Wing is about 65 miles. This meet-and-greet will be an informal sort of thing, but I imagine we'll ride around, eat, drink, be merry, and then scatter off to our respective accommodations. The natural focal point for meeting up in Red Wing will be Bay Point Park. Again, this part is highly unofficial and not at all choreographed. Go to the park, and look for people on nice bikes, and then hang out with them. I'm planning to roll in around 3-4 PM, but that really depends on who rides with me and how fast we go. Saturday, June 2: Meet at Bay Point Park around 8 am. We'll try to ride out around 9 am down the Wisconsin side of Lake Pepin. Expect 50-60 glorious low-traffic miles of mixed terrain, some hills, some gravel, some pavement, perhaps a modest water crossing (or three). There are cafes and pie shops along the route so we don't need to pack much food. Do not ask me how fast the ride will be, please. I simply don't know, and don't care. It's my opinion that the group should stick together. The fast guys and gals can wait for us slowpokes at the tops of hills and at intersections. Everybody should feel free to stop to snap photos, take a breather, slow down, walk up the hills, etc. I don't plan to provide maps or cue sheets for various reasons, but mostly so we don't get too focused on the route and so that the fast people don't turn it into a race. When we get to Wabasha, I'll have camping arranged, but there's at least one hotel there for those who don't care to camp. You're on your own for hotel reservations. At this time, I don't plan to have any support vehicle, so you'll have to carry your own gear or convince someone else to carry it for you. Maybe one of you has a spouse or friend or relative who'd like to be involved but who doesn't want to ride a bike? If so, maybe you could volunteer that person to provide a support vehicle? But my default is no support vehicle, just so we're all prepared. To be clear, my default is no support of any kind. Just a friendly ride, and if something bad happens, we'll figure out how best to handle it. Sunday, June 3: Much like the previous day, except in Minnesota. We'll roll out of Wabasha around 9 am and follow a mixed terrain route, mostly paved, but some gravel, some hills, somewhat more traffic. When we get back to Red Wing, the ride/rally will end. Depending on the time, weather, and mood, I will either look for accommodations for the night in Red Wing, or start riding back to Minneapolis. I'm planning to get back to Minneapolis by Monday afternoon, but it could be Sunday night if the wind blows in the right direction. Any questions or concerns or other stuff? Post it here, and we'll talk. Are you planning to drive in and have room for
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we are all literally on the same page as far as wanting and welcoming a variety of participants. I simply don't think calling a ride a rally for a specific brand helps that cause. (unless of course Riv was short for River!) On Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:53:23 AM UTC-4, AndyBikeman wrote: I was one of the renegade Non-Riv riders on the recent tour. I felt very welcomed by all the riders. It was a great group of people and we had a lot in common, especially the love of riding on two wheels. I didn't sense any feelings of less or more because of the brand of bike being ridden. I admire people that are passionate about finely crafted and designed bikes. Nice to know that the interest in steel frames and classic bike gear is alive and well in Riv riders! Because of brands like Rivendell the revival of classic touring bikes is making a come-back with bikes like the Kogswell, Gunnar, Salsa, and Surly. That's one thing I like about cycling is that in most cases nobody talks another person down because of their choices of bike manufacturer. I ride regularly with people that ride bikes worth a great deal of money and they still admire my 10 year old steel and titanium bikes. In fact a number of my fellow Riv riders commented that they had a Surly LHT as a second or third bike and that is was a tremendous value for the money. I came as an invited guest of a wonderful friend that thought I'd enjoy the ride (we did the whole CO and GAP trail together three years ago) again and to finally get to see the scenery before the Divide since the last time we rode it the rain and fog kept the scenery out of view. I'm so glad I came and got to see the sights despite the threat of rain, snow and cold temps. I feel that it doesn't' matter what brand of bike you ride, but your approach to cycling. That is, touring versus racing. As I've aged I prefer touring and self-supported rides. Again thanks to the welcoming and great group of guys, and BobbyB for organizing the tour (are there any women that would like to join us? We won't bite or geek out too much). I plan on being back to ride a RivTour whether if I can afford a Rivendell or not. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O2wOYKBDKjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
Thanks everyone for the thoughts. Guess for now, am going to keep it as a single with low-ish gearing (39/17). Hoping to eventually increase motor capacity to switch to a 16t (which I have sitting in a box). May eventually try a Dos. But for now, not going to mess with what isn't broken. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:47:56 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: I too just don't shift that often. For rides of consequence though I love having the extra cog right there. I have two rear wheels for the Q: a fixed dingle and free dos with bailout big cogs on the flip. I can do a lot of climbing on my single speed with that setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/k80Nb8k1ThIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SimpleOne two week reflections
Simple answer - me like! A lot. It really does seem to disappear underneath while riding. Took it out for a 40 mile ride last Sunday, with a few on gravel roads. Pretty sure I was faster over the gravel than I had been last year on the Hillborne. Sure, a lot of it is the new bike smell - I like something therefore it rides better. Purely psychological. But at this point, am not going to complain. Photo from that ride -http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/7126464935/ Still need a Nitto rack for the back, but one is on the way from New York via eBay. Not sure I want to change anything else. But who knows. Only 275 miles on it so far. Maybe in a month or so something will seem obvious. Guess it's a nice way to say glad I decided to purchase the bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZigFpTGHKkEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thank you all for the front rack help...
Great discussion. I appreciate all the thoughts. Still, yesterday's ride home, photograph in the link, got me thinking... ...Level Rack, Schmevel Rack! http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/7133892379/in/set-7215762976836 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thank you all for the front rack help...
If anyone asks: it's more aerodynamic On May 1, 5:56 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Great discussion. I appreciate all the thoughts. Still, yesterday's ride home, photograph in the link, got me thinking... ...Level Rack, Schmevel Rack! http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/7133892379/in/set-721576295... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 17:14 -0700, Ablejack wrote: I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we are all literally on the same page as far as wanting and welcoming a variety of participants. I simply don't think calling a ride a rally for a specific brand helps that cause. (unless of course Riv was short for River!) I think everyone here knew they were welcome. As for the rest, perhaps you might want to look at the name of this group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Avocet Saddle SOLD; Selle San Marco Still Available
The Avocet Touring has been sold, but the Selle San Marco is still available: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/7215762957954/with/7133452615/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT 56cm Atlantis
The fine tuning of fit on my beloved 56cm Atlantis has finally reached the point where I think I need a larger frame. Saddle height keeps going up, a setback post has been added and a longer stem is desired and I still want to stretch out more! Looking to trade the frame/fork, headset (cheap but awesome Tange), and wheels for a 58 or 61 Atlantis or 59 AHH frame. Might consider the 58 650B Hilsen, Saluki/Hiluki. No SS couplers since I have an [ignorant] mental block about them. The wheels are (26/559 just in case) 32h Salsa Delgado 22.5mm rims laced to silver Chris King hubs front and back. The frame is in very good condition and straight, no dents, dings, just a few spots on right side of the top tube and right fork leg where it looks like it rubbed a bike rack. The headbadge also has two nicks in the enamel in the sails. Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/69091655@N08/sets/72157629945400689/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nitto Campee Front Rack With Removable Pannier Supports
Anyone have experience with these racks? I like the idea of being able to take the pannier supports off when I don't need them and just support by Berthoud bag, but wonder if its stable once the panniers are mounted. Seems like it might flex, a lot. Rube Goldberg machine or elegant solution? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=2290 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JyCRWyGhvAIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
OK, Ablejack.. I think you're taking this political correctness nonsense a bit too far. This is a Rivendell Owners Bunch Forum... If we can't proclaim our enthusiasm for Rivendell bikes on this forum, where can we??? No apologies. And BTW I love everyone, even you. Peace, Bobby On May 1, 8:14 pm, Ablejack ableja...@gmail.com wrote: I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we are all literally on the same page as far as wanting and welcoming a variety of participants. I simply don't think calling a ride a rally for a specific brand helps that cause. (unless of course Riv was short for River!) On Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:53:23 AM UTC-4, AndyBikeman wrote: I was one of the renegade Non-Riv riders on the recent tour. I felt very welcomed by all the riders. It was a great group of people and we had a lot in common, especially the love of riding on two wheels. I didn't sense any feelings of less or more because of the brand of bike being ridden. I admire people that are passionate about finely crafted and designed bikes. Nice to know that the interest in steel frames and classic bike gear is alive and well in Riv riders! Because of brands like Rivendell the revival of classic touring bikes is making a come-back with bikes like the Kogswell, Gunnar, Salsa, and Surly. That's one thing I like about cycling is that in most cases nobody talks another person down because of their choices of bike manufacturer. I ride regularly with people that ride bikes worth a great deal of money and they still admire my 10 year old steel and titanium bikes. In fact a number of my fellow Riv riders commented that they had a Surly LHT as a second or third bike and that is was a tremendous value for the money. I came as an invited guest of a wonderful friend that thought I'd enjoy the ride (we did the whole CO and GAP trail together three years ago) again and to finally get to see the scenery before the Divide since the last time we rode it the rain and fog kept the scenery out of view. I'm so glad I came and got to see the sights despite the threat of rain, snow and cold temps. I feel that it doesn't' matter what brand of bike you ride, but your approach to cycling. That is, touring versus racing. As I've aged I prefer touring and self-supported rides. Again thanks to the welcoming and great group of guys, and BobbyB for organizing the tour (are there any women that would like to join us? We won't bite or geek out too much). I plan on being back to ride a RivTour whether if I can afford a Rivendell or not. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
Didn't you guys see the news release that T was going to become a Riv dealer? Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:14:29 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pbX_-aLVrikJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
I am organizing the Midwest Riv rally, and I don't have a Riv. Toei and Singer riders, if they exist, are welcome to attend. Frankly, I think we'll have as many Surly riders as Riv riders. I don't expect much carbon, but you never know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZjKzkI6ExREJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cute Riv ad on BSNYC
This ad will really catch Newt's attention. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't you guys see the news release that T was going to become a Riv dealer? Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:14:29 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: ... For the Betty Foy. Very elegant. Does Grant still do the adwork for Riv? http://imageshack.us/a/img684/**1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pbX_-aLVrikJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My new A Homer Hilsen feels perfect!
Sunday, I picked up a new black, Rivet Pearl saddle, which really completes my dream brevet bike. It has been comfortable from the very first minute I installed the saddle and my bike now feels like home. I originally had a Brooks Swift saddle on it, but I couldn't get it to feel right. Perhaps it's because I am slightly more upright than my other bikes, and I am setting my seat far back because that feels most comfortable, since I am able to get the weight off my hands. I got a Nitto lugged seatpost because it has extra setback. Brooks saddles don't have long rails, and for the Swift, I pushed it as far back as it would go, but maybe that wasn't enough. Also the seat is not as wide as the Rivet Pearl, so as more weight goes backwards, I think the extra width helps in the comfort. In all fairness, maybe a B17 would have been good too, but perhaps the shorter length of the Brooks rails could have been an issue. Of course, the owner of Rivet Saddles is a local rider who I have finished some adventures with, so I'm happy to be an early adopter, especially when their product is working so well for me. I'll keep training and am looking forward to my first brevet on the bike in June! Toshi http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
