[RBW] Re: Popped the cork on some RivReaders...

[Tokyo Crank]

I used to enjoy getting the Reader, and recall all the I got mine ! 
excitement on the old list too. Even though I generally received mine days 
later than most, being on the other side of quite a large pond from Riv HQ. 
My 1994 B'Stone catalog and some of the readers are still in my bathroom, 
and still providing entertainment and relaxation. One day I will finish the 
quiz in the catalogue, clip out the page, and send it to Riv, as a gentle 
historical message-in-a-bottle. 

I was interested in the USB archive, but ... shipping is $50 to here. I do 
understand. There's more to shipping than putting a stamp on something. 
But I can't find it in me to pay this amount. I have no interest in any 
potential underhand way of obtaining the collection. I do wonder if the 
Readers are in a state where it might be possible for Riv to publish them 
on Kindle ? I have no idea how to do this, but my mother, who is not 
desperately into computers ( she prefers gardening and cooking ), has 
published to Kindle. She seems to have worked it out. It would be great to 
see them available to purchase electronically for those of us far away. 
Somewhat protects the content too, I understand, though that horse may have 
bolted.

Paul 

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Matthew J]

Not sure about NM, but some of the LBSes in the Chicago area sell 
individual BQ editions for those disinclined to subscribe.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Riv's New Pedals

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I just installed a pair of Hillbubba's modification to a set of Grip King 
pedals on my Mystery Bike (the mod is extremely easy, and provides substantial 
additional platform area and support with negligible widening of the pedal 
platform), and discovered that (contrary to Bill's instructions) the reflectors 
do not have to be removed and can be preserved.  Since I, too, like having the 
reflectors, I kept them.  LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Hillbubba mod, BTW.  Extremely 
comfortable (even more than the stock GK, especially if you have wide feet), 
and no downsides at all that I can see.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:03 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's New Pedals

Good to know. I'm tempted to get some but first I'm gonna try putting some 
pedal spikes in my Grip Kings. Didn't Grant say a while back that there was 
gonna be GKs with better bearings and spikes? Maybe I'm wrong. I actually like 
that the GKs have reflectors so I wanna stick with them. I can't believe I just 
said that. When I first got them I wasn't a fan of the reflectors.

--mike

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:43:01 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
Sometimes if you're patient enough and wait long enough good things come your 
way.  This is the case (in my case, anyway) with Riv's new platform pedal 
offering from VIP.  When I spied these on their web catalog I ordered a pair 
right away and have not been disappointed with them in any way - they are 
exactly what Riv (Grant?) describes them to be.  I replaced the cheap, clunky 
old MoSH BMX pedals on my Rambouillet and went for a test spin.  They do, 
indeed, have a much lower profile and the pedaling is much, much smoother 
presumably due to higher quality axles and bearings.  I also noticed that the 
exposed threads on the pins that are screwed into these pedals tend to grip 
much better than the smooth-ended pins in my old ones.  But then there was one 
more surprise:  all of the creaking and other racket I couldn't exactly 
identify in my drive train has disappeared!  Riv also offers these pedals at 
around the same price as any of the other Web retailers so no need to look 
anyplace else.


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[RBW] Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Jay LePree]

Hi all:
 
I have been using a Big Hoss saddle bag using a Mark's mini and Brooks B-17 
with saddle bag loops, but its shape does not readily lend itself to 
carrying a computer and books and notebooks.  I am thinking of switching to 
panniers and a rack.  Anyone use such a combination on a Rambouillet?  Any 
recommendations?  (Load should be not be more than 15 pounds.)
 
Jay

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[RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Jay LePree]

Sorry, I forgot to sign off fully.
 
Jay
Demarest, NJ
 

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:15:00 AM UTC-4, Jay LePree wrote:

 Hi all:
  
 I have been using a Big Hoss saddle bag using a Mark's mini and Brooks 
 B-17 with saddle bag loops, but its shape does not readily lend itself to 
 carrying a computer and books and notebooks.  I am thinking of switching to 
 panniers and a rack.  Anyone use such a combination on a Rambouillet?  Any 
 recommendations?  (Load should be not be more than 15 pounds.)
  
 Jay


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[James Warren]

Books will necessitate something more beefy than the lightweight long rear rack 
that Rivendell sells.

So the Nitto big rear makes a lot of sense. It fits easily on the Ram's mounts. 
Pretty sure the sidepulls won't intersect the rack's support rods. The Ram can 
handle a full rear rack, just not a full size front rack.

Nitto + Riv frame routinely is a tight match. The Nitto big is one of those 
inexpensive things that is worth it. I've toured many times with one on several 
different Rivendells.

- Jim W.


On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Jay LePree wrote:

 Sorry, I forgot to sign off fully.
  
 Jay
 Demarest, NJ
  
 
 On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:15:00 AM UTC-4, Jay LePree wrote:
 Hi all:
  
 I have been using a Big Hoss saddle bag using a Mark's mini and Brooks B-17 
 with saddle bag loops, but its shape does not readily lend itself to carrying 
 a computer and books and notebooks.  I am thinking of switching to panniers 
 and a rack.  Anyone use such a combination on a Rambouillet?  Any 
 recommendations?  (Load should be not be more than 15 pounds.)
  
 Jay
 
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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[justinaugust]

H

Leaning towards Shimano or the SP non-switchable. Any first hand experience 
with the SPs?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Will]

Plus 1 on the Alfine. We have 2 of the 36 spoke units. No problems 
whatsoever. Removing/reinstalling the wheels is a snap. Both power 
unswitched (always on) front and rear lights. They are on commuter bikes. 
Used daily. Drag is not noticeable. 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:37:06 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now. 
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I 
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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[RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[KTY]

I've recently converted my old Maruishi tourer to a commuter, and love it 
but for the 27 1/4 tires, which are a tight fit under the longboards and 
leave a lot to be desired in the way of comfort on NYC's gnarly pavement. 

If it can be done affordably, I'd like to convert to 650b, so... anyone 
have a not-too-heavily-used 650b wheelset to sell? Please hit me up here or 
off-list: kolbyt at gmail dot com. And as long as I'm asking, doing this 
would require some long reach brakes (e.g. the Dia Compes). Provided I can 
get a wheelset, that is. 

Thanks, 
Kolby

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[RBW] Re: Riv's New Pedals

[BSWP]

I'm equally pleased with the new pedals on my QuickBeam. Whether riding 
fixed, or on the freewheel, they're an improvement over the older MKS RX-1 
pedals with toe clips I had been using. I thought I would need clips when 
riding fixed, but... not so much. I'm just riding by mashing down, and 
the main thing the clips were giving me was consistent placement of my foot 
on the pedal. But I quickly find the right spot for my feet on the VP 
pedals, and the spikes seem to help hold my shoes right there. I'm going to 
get a pair for my wife's B'Stone, and for my RBW LongLow as well.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:43:01 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:

 Sometimes if you're patient enough and wait long enough good things come 
 your way.  This is the case (in my case, anyway) with Riv's new platform 
 pedal offering from VIP.  When I spied these on their web catalog I ordered 
 a pair right away and have not been disappointed with them in any way - 
 they are exactly what Riv (Grant?) describes them to be.  I replaced the 
 cheap, clunky old MoSH BMX pedals on my Rambouillet and went for a test 
 spin.  They do, indeed, have a much lower profile and the pedaling is much, 
 much smoother presumably due to higher quality axles and bearings.  I also 
 noticed that the exposed threads on the pins that are screwed into these 
 pedals tend to grip much better than the smooth-ended pins in my old ones. 
  But then there was one more surprise:  all of the creaking and other 
 racket I couldn't exactly identify in my drive train has disappeared!  Riv 
 also offers these pedals at around the same price as any of the other Web 
 retailers so no need to look anyplace else.




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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[hobie]

Saw them when they changed their name to Jefferson Starship on the great 
lawn Central Park NYC 73'-74'. Free concert. Marty Balin and Grace.  Got up 
close to the stage and saw people doing some fliped out shit!! I was 13 at 
the time and it opened my eyes to what was going on.. Alot of those bands 
hit it at the right time. The music is good. Plenty of other bands came and 
went that didn't get the attention they derserved. Like alot of art I think 
you have to be hanging with the IN crowd to get exposure.
On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:27:34 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 My generation is early-to-mid-'70s Starship. A nice ride on a Rivendell 
 with Miracles or Ride The Tiger running through your head is never a bad 
 thing.
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA. 

 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:12:03 AM UTC-7, Big Paulie wrote:

 This is an amazing thread! 

 I was never an Airplane fan back in the 60's...although I was the 
 right age and was from California. More into Cream, Doors, Hendrix. 
 But, for some reason, about a year ago I bought their Worst Of CD on 
 a whim, and was just blown away by how much I loved it, and related to 
 it. 

 Recently I bought most of their catalog on CD, and have been floating 
 in heaven ever since. The depth, the textures, the variety...amazing. 

 Eventually, I plan to delve into the Hot Tuna catalog. But for now, I 
 have a lot of listening to do. 



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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Peter Pesce]

I think you can buy individual BQ issues right from their website.

Regarding the SP hub, I have the PD-8 on my commuter, but have only had it 
a month so cannot comment on durability. Initial impressions are that it is 
built perfectly well given its price. I'm sure it's not SON quality, but at 
half the cost it let me get a dyno system, where I couldn't have if I felt 
I had to buy a SON hub or nothing. I can't see the SP being built any worse 
than any other hub at the same general price point like the Sanyo or 
Shimanos. 

As for everyone's endless obsession with weight, drag, and efficiency, I 
think it's all a bit silly as the differences are miniscule and are 
completely lost in the noise, especially for us Riv-sh folks. 

-Pete in CT

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 H

 Leaning towards Shimano or the SP non-switchable. Any first hand 
 experience with the SPs?

 -J



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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks. I did subscribe for several years but let my subscription
lapse at the end of last year because money is tight. It's a good
publication -- may well be the best, in quality, of anything out there
-- but it's a bit narrow for my interests.

I wish he'd offer a PDF subscription.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sure. Although I do think that BQ is a publication well worth supporting with 
 a subscription. Lots of great info.

 Hubs tested were
 Sanyo H27
 Shimano 3N80
 SON28
 SON Delux
 SON Delux wide-body
 SP HB013
 SP PV-8

 Article is Generator Hubs for Performance Bicycles

 None were bad. Quality control of SP hubs unknown.

 SP PV-8 is least efficient.

 If on a budget, extra $ better spent on headlights not hub.

 Favorite was SON Delux SL wide body. Wide flange = stronger wheel. Likes SL 
 connector-less system. Low resistance.

 For casual riding Sanyo H27 is tempting.

 That is the nutshell version.


 Dan


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[RBW] Re: More breathless excitement over the new Sackville

[Rick]

I love my medium and use it for my daily commute, along with the
saddlebag grip, so I can pull it off and take it in when I'm leaving
the bike locked up.  (I would like the outside pockets to puff out
more -- I overstuff them, and it eats into the main compartment a
bit.)  I've been using it for miles and miles  now, and it's maybe
thinking about starting to break in.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Rick]

From the period, I'm more of a Blue Cheer than an Airplane person, but
am continuously impressed with the scene coming out of SF these days.
Sic Alps, Ty Segall, Fresh and Onlys, Thee Oh Sees, Girls, Rogue Wave,
Sonny and the Sunsets.  Must be something in the water out there ...

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Narrow-flange induced wheel flex seems like a pretty far-fetched problem. 
The wheel can flex laterally in hard corners, but so does the fork. On my 
1936 Gitane tandem with 27 wheels, there is a tendency for the front rim 
to rub the brake pads in hard corners, despite the hub having a high, wide 
flange. The skinny, flexy fork legs are the more likely culprit.

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:03:11 AM UTC-5, IanA wrote:

 Do you notice any additional flex in the wheel due to narrow flanges? 
 Also, any experience with extended exposure to moisture?  They do look 
 fantastic and small and light.

 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:56:18 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 Had real good,luck with the 3n80'shimano.  Great luck with the three 
 SON28's and have be very pleasantly surprised with the SP non-switched. 
  The 3n80 and SP both run about 130.  Schmidt has less drag of all three 
 but minimally so.

 The SP will be my next one due to price and it smokin hot to look at ..so 
 the Betty Foy should be happy.

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I should have said 1963 Gitane tandem, not 1936.

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:41:27 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 Narrow-flange induced wheel flex seems like a pretty far-fetched problem. 
 The wheel can flex laterally in hard corners, but so does the fork. On my 
 1936 Gitane tandem with 27 wheels, there is a tendency for the front rim 
 to rub the brake pads in hard corners, despite the hub having a high, wide 
 flange. The skinny, flexy fork legs are the more likely culprit.

 On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:03:11 AM UTC-5, IanA wrote:

 Do you notice any additional flex in the wheel due to narrow flanges? 
 Also, any experience with extended exposure to moisture?  They do look 
 fantastic and small and light.

 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:56:18 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 Had real good,luck with the 3n80'shimano.  Great luck with the three 
 SON28's and have be very pleasantly surprised with the SP non-switched. 
  The 3n80 and SP both run about 130.  Schmidt has less drag of all three 
 but minimally so.

 The SP will be my next one due to price and it smokin hot to look at 
 ..so the Betty Foy should be happy.

 Kelly



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Bruce Herbitter]

I've been using a cheap Bor Yueh (came with a Fuji Touring many years ago)
and some Nashbar panniers with no trouble at all. Not pretty,
but effective.. Carries 55 lbs.

http://www.boryueh.com/en/alloy-carrier/396-by-302

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:31 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:


 Books will necessitate something more beefy than the lightweight long rear
 rack that Rivendell sells.



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[RBW] Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Ryan Ray]

I have a pair of nearly new Swift Industries panniers and a nearly new silver 
Cosmo that would work on a Ram. I'm also looking for a Mark's rack for my Ram 
if you are interested. 

Highly recommend the Tubus Cosmo. Specially for heal clearance issues.  

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Lee Chae]

Hi Justin. I have a Shimano DH-3N71 that's been in use for a little more
than 4.5 years. It's on my commuter (first a Kogswell, now a Quickbeam).
I've used it year-round during this time, and park it outside during the
day. It's always worked just fine despite being exposed to the rainy
seasons here in the SF Bay Area. I've taken it out for bike camping
adventures and trail-riding, as well. Again, no problems. So, I've enjoyed
my experience with the Shimano.

Hope this helps,
Lee
SF, CA

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and
 realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride
 after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano
 dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset
 on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me)
 SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the
 time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like
 to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano,
 Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is
 probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type
 connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO
 upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's
 offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one?
 Thanks in advance!

 Justin Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear August

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RE: [RBW] Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

+1 on the Cosmo.  I have one on several bikes.  Lower center of gravity for 
loads than the big Nitto rear rack, and nicer mounting options for rack-mounted 
taillights, too.  Not quite as pretty as Nitto, though, IMHO.

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Subject: [RBW] Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

I have a pair of nearly new Swift Industries panniers and a nearly new silver 
Cosmo that would work on a Ram. I'm also looking for a Mark's rack for my Ram 
if you are interested. 

Highly recommend the Tubus Cosmo. Specially for heal clearance issues.  

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Philip Williamson]

I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems 
very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two. 
My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as 
well. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:37:06 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
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 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now. 
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I 
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[PATRICK MOORE]

Yes, one thing that Shimano did right and SON didn't do right is the
connector. I meditate on that difference every time I have to remove
and replace my SON wheel when fixing a flat.

I've been using DH 3**D**72s (D = Disk) or whateverthehelltheyare on
the Fargo (previously had one ...N ... on the Motobecane, too) off
road in lots of dry dust. No problems so far.

And: what is the difference between the ...72, the 71, the 80, and the Alfine?

One curious fact: When powering the light, my SON 20 buzzes or
vibrates more than my two ...72s. But it spins slightly easier
nevertheless.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems very
 good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two. My SON
 has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as well.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:37:06 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now.
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Lee Chae]

This reminds me: One thing I did to my Cyo light was to tin the ends of the
wires that thread into the Shimano connector. Makes for better contact and
keeps things neater if you have to remove the connector for things like
fixing flats or switching the dyno-wheel to a new bike.

Lee

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philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems
 very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two.
 My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as
 well.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


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 Cyclery wrote:

 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now.
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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[RBW] Re: Popped the cork on some RivReaders...

[Philip Williamson]

I like both ideas - publishing to Kindle or the iPad, and the idea of 
mailing in super-old quizzes.

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:18:44 PM UTC-7, Tokyo Crank wrote:

 I used to enjoy getting the Reader, and recall all the I got mine ! 
 excitement on the old list too. Even though I generally received mine days 
 later than most, being on the other side of quite a large pond from Riv HQ. 
 My 1994 B'Stone catalog and some of the readers are still in my bathroom, 
 and still providing entertainment and relaxation. One day I will finish the 
 quiz in the catalogue, clip out the page, and send it to Riv, as a gentle 
 historical message-in-a-bottle. 

 I was interested in the USB archive, but ... shipping is $50 to here. I do 
 understand. There's more to shipping than putting a stamp on something. 
 But I can't find it in me to pay this amount. I have no interest in any 
 potential underhand way of obtaining the collection. I do wonder if the 
 Readers are in a state where it might be possible for Riv to publish them 
 on Kindle ? I have no idea how to do this, but my mother, who is not 
 desperately into computers ( she prefers gardening and cooking ), has 
 published to Kindle. She seems to have worked it out. It would be great to 
 see them available to purchase electronically for those of us far away. 
 Somewhat protects the content too, I understand, though that horse may have 
 bolted.

 Paul 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[PATRICK MOORE]

I never bothered with this; I just made sure that the wires were
stripped carefully and the ends carefully tucked out of sight. I've
never had any problems with contact or neatness. Soldering doesn't add
anything if you prepare the wires carefully. I twist mine to make them
easier to handle.

Soldering **would** help with the SON spade connectors.

As for 71s, 72s, 80s, and Alfines, their quality and their drag: here
is what PJW has to say:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/shimano3n70.asp

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote:
 This reminds me: One thing I did to my Cyo light was to tin the ends of the
 wires that thread into the Shimano connector. Makes for better contact and
 keeps things neater if you have to remove the connector for things like
 fixing flats or switching the dyno-wheel to a new bike.

 Lee


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 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems
 very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two.
 My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as
 well.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


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 Cyclery wrote:

 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now.
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Philip Williamson]

I used to occasionally see Bob Weir mountain biking on Mt Tam... 25 years 
ago. When Mickey Thomas lived next door to me in Tam Valley. 

Philip 
www.biketinker.com 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:23:48 PM UTC-7, Bill M. wrote:

 On the Deadhead side, I believe Bobby Weir is also a cyclist.

 Not a huge Airplane fan, maybe because of what the band eventually morphed 
 into (Starship).  Hot Tuna, though, is the real thing.  And Jorma Kaukonen 
 is surely the only Finnish American guitar hero, which counts for something 
 in my book as I'm half Finnish myself.

 Bill
 A second generation Bay Area native


 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:02:06 AM UTC-7, Phil Brown wrote:

 Believe it or not there's a cycling connection. Jack was-or is-a 
 cyclist. I remember him riding fixed on the street 30 years ago. 
 Many more cycling/music connections. 
 Phil Brown 

 On Oct 23, 9:13 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Are you both a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan? 
  
  Was wondering about the SanFran cultural/possible generational link. 
  
  I am a Marylander. But a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan. 
  Listening to You're my Best Friend while cycling on quiet roads in 
 the 
  Spring is such a nice feeling. 
  
  There is a Rivendell/Mac question on Jim's site. Though more obscure, 
  thought I would ask this one because of the SF area focus of the two, 
 and 
  I'm a fan of both. 
  
  Moderator, feel free to remove if this question is not approporiate to 
 the 
  forum, with my apologies... 



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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Peter Pesce]

Ah yes, good point. Forgot to mention that the SP hub also uses the Shimano 
connector. That was a factor for me as it makes it much easier to share the 
wheel among bikes.

-Pete in CT

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:45:41 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems 
 very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two. 
 My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as 
 well. 

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:37:06 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now. 
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I 
 find its hard to justify the price difference.



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RE: [RBW] Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Ryan Ray]

I think the cosmo looks better on most bikes. The nitto's angles just look 
wrong on all but that perfect size. Off the bike however the nitto is a work of 
art. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[James Warren]

Sorry, typo, I meant to say thatNitto big rack is one of those expensive things that is worth it.

But now that I think about it, the use you get out of it over time makes it a good bargain.


-Original Message- From: James Warren 
The Nitto big is one of those inexpensive things that is worth it. I've toured many times with one on several different Rivendells.

- Jim W.






On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Jay LePree wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to sign off fully.

Jay
Demarest, NJ

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:15:00 AM UTC-4, Jay LePree wrote:

Hi all:

I have been using a Big Hoss saddle bag using a Mark's mini and Brooks B-17 with saddle bag loops, but its shape does not readily lend itself to carrying a computer and books and notebooks. I am thinking of switching to panniers and a rack. Anyone use such a combination on a Rambouillet? Any recommendations? (Load should be not be more than 15 pounds.)

Jay
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[pb]

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:23:48 PM UTC-7, Bill M. wrote:

 On the Deadhead side, I believe Bobby Weir is also a cyclist.

 
Yeah.  I used to run into him on Tam when I was either running, or on my 
Ritchey.  I avoided greeting him with hey, now.  He was pretty fit.
 
~pb
 

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[RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Michael Hechmer]

I found carrying my macbook in a Carradice Longflap worked when I wedged it 
against a rack but I could feel the weight that hi up.  I switched to a 
Carradice office bag which worked fine to protect the computer.  I retired 
two years ago and haven't used it since.  I would be willing to part with 
it, if you want it.  The only draw back I found with panniers for commuting 
was that they tended to get dirtier than a large saddle bag, but then my 
 30 mile commute included 10 miles of dirt.

Michael

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:15:00 AM UTC-4, Jay LePree wrote:

 Hi all:
  
 I have been using a Big Hoss saddle bag using a Mark's mini and Brooks 
 B-17 with saddle bag loops, but its shape does not readily lend itself to 
 carrying a computer and books and notebooks.  I am thinking of switching to 
 panniers and a rack.  Anyone use such a combination on a Rambouillet?  Any 
 recommendations?  (Load should be not be more than 15 pounds.)
  
 Jay


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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[lungimsam]

 Nothing to sell, but some advice to peddle.
  

If you do not live near an LBS that keeps 650b wheels/rims/tires in stock, 
think about buying extras of these when the wallet allows, or you could be 
in for quite a wait to replace any if needed. Especially if you prefer one 
brand/model of 650b product over another.
 
Otherwise, have fun with the conversion and wheels. I have a 560b bike that 
is great, but been off it for a month now while I am waiting to get a new 
rim replacement for a damaged one. Velocity distributor just got them back 
in stock, so the LBS should get it soon and have it all strung up and eady 
to rolll, I hope.

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[RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[justinaugust]

I would recommend looking for the Handspun Pavement series 650b wheels on EBay, 
Amazon, etc. great deals. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Montclair BobbyB]

I could definitely picture Jorma riding an Atlantis...

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:01:07 PM UTC-4, Tim McNamara wrote:


 On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:22 PM, lungimsam wrote: 

  @BigPaulie: 

   That's funny! My favorite Jefferson Airplane song is Won't You 
 Try/Saturday 
  Afternoon. 

  I like the live Woodstock version the best. 

  @ everyone else: 

  I wonder if Jack has been to RBW before. I don't know where he lives 
 now. For some reason I would think he might like Rivbikes. 

 Jack and Jorma both ride bikes (Jorma of both the pedaled variety and of 
 the Harley variety); Jorma has referenced this on his web site.

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Montclair BobbyB]

Two thumbs up for the 72, and I also own (and like) the SRAM iLight... 
excellent value in both.

BB

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:51:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I've not used the newer Sanyo or Supernova hubs, but I have owned 
 several DH3 N72 models which I understand were improved over the 
 earlier ... 71 -- Sheldon had this sorted out. At any rate, he said 
 that the 72 and 80s have the same bearings, so I'm not sure what the 
 difference, if any beside name, is. 

 The 72, at any rate, is an excellent bargain and frankly, I personally 
 don't need anything better than this. I think my SON 20 wheel spins a 
 little more freely than the ...72 wheels, but not so you can tell the 
 difference when riding. IMO and IME, a Shimano hub and the Cyo are 
 excellent value. 

 If I were looking for another dynamo system, I think I might first 
 look for a decent Sanyo BB dynamo and wait to see what some of the new 
 bike generator gadgets come to. There's one that is supposed to affix 
 to any wheel, and another that -- do I remember correctly? -- works 
 off the rim?? Vapor as of now, and I don't have the links, but perhaps 
 someone else can point us to them. 

 The Sanyo BB generator I briefly owned and sold with the Herse worked 
 fine: less drag than a Soubitez bottle (which itself wasn't horrible 
 for shorter distances) and, of course, much cheaper than a hub + 
 wheel. 

 Lastly, there have been several dynohub wheel offers on this list in 
 the last few months that were excellent buys -- this and the boblist 
 might be worth searching. 

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM,  justin...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Hi 
  Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
 realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride 
 after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano 
 dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset 
 on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
 SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the 
 time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like 
 to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano, 
 Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is 
 probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type 
 connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO 
 upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's 
 offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one? 
  Thanks in advance! 
  
  Justin Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear August 
  
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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Montclair BobbyB]

Two thumbs up for the 72, and I also own (and like) the SRAM iLight... 
excellent value in both.

BB

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:51:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I've not used the newer Sanyo or Supernova hubs, but I have owned 
 several DH3 N72 models which I understand were improved over the 
 earlier ... 71 -- Sheldon had this sorted out. At any rate, he said 
 that the 72 and 80s have the same bearings, so I'm not sure what the 
 difference, if any beside name, is. 

 The 72, at any rate, is an excellent bargain and frankly, I personally 
 don't need anything better than this. I think my SON 20 wheel spins a 
 little more freely than the ...72 wheels, but not so you can tell the 
 difference when riding. IMO and IME, a Shimano hub and the Cyo are 
 excellent value. 

 If I were looking for another dynamo system, I think I might first 
 look for a decent Sanyo BB dynamo and wait to see what some of the new 
 bike generator gadgets come to. There's one that is supposed to affix 
 to any wheel, and another that -- do I remember correctly? -- works 
 off the rim?? Vapor as of now, and I don't have the links, but perhaps 
 someone else can point us to them. 

 The Sanyo BB generator I briefly owned and sold with the Herse worked 
 fine: less drag than a Soubitez bottle (which itself wasn't horrible 
 for shorter distances) and, of course, much cheaper than a hub + 
 wheel. 

 Lastly, there have been several dynohub wheel offers on this list in 
 the last few months that were excellent buys -- this and the boblist 
 might be worth searching. 

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM,  justin...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Hi 
  Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
 realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride 
 after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano 
 dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset 
 on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
 SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the 
 time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like 
 to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano, 
 Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is 
 probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type 
 connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO 
 upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's 
 offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one? 
  Thanks in advance! 
  
  Justin Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear August 
  
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[Peter Morgano]

if you arent a large individual  you could get the budget set that
Rivendell used to sell on Fleabay. I have a 36 spoke Synergy set from
Rivendell/Harris Cylery in 650b and at 250lbs have hit some potholes in
this same NYC you speak of and have had no issues. A decent amount of money
up front but worth it in the long run.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:38 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would recommend looking for the Handspun Pavement series 650b wheels on
 EBay, Amazon, etc. great deals.

 -J

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[RBW] Grid Grey Stuff on the Bay

[Peter M]

I know the Grid Grey has some afficionados. There is an XS Saddle Sack
and a small trunksack.  The descriptions are on the annoying side but
if you are all matchy matchy they could be up your alley.

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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone X01 fork for sale

[lungimsam]

 Sounds like the shop oughtta be the one buying it from you... Sawing on a 
 person's bike without asking first...
  


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Big Paulie]

Ginger Baker was an avid competetive cyclist as a teen...

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[RBW] Re: Popped the cork on some RivReaders...

[Stephen S]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qszl0jBTOks/UIoijygpeVI/J3M/Y1d7d1Bg7oM/s1600/RR16_P4.jpg
Sorry for the late response. Here is a pic from RR16 page 4. You can see 
when you click on it that there are some issues with the txt about 1/2 way 
down the screen. It's decipherable but ugly. 

Stephen

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:30:57 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 I don't know how they compare to the scans on the CD's. I haven't seen the 
 Cd's.
 They open with Adobe reader.

 I read them on my iPhone's Kindle app at bedtime.
 So far they read fine and so much fun info.
  
 I am really glad that Rivendell has made these available.
  
 If you like, give me some page numbers where you had problems if you like 
 and I'll check mine out and let you know how it is.
  


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