Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Tom Harrop]

Kelly, thanks for the details. As a fellow large bike rider I think there 
will be an AHH somewhere in my future...

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[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Noah Deuce]

Michael,

I have a 700 Hilsen. 
As a side note, don't be afraid to follow Riv sizing conventions. I'm 5'8", 30" 
inseam, not oddly proportioned, and I ride a 61cm. And I'm riding clipless with 
my cleats shoved all the way back in the slot, so my saddle height isn't 
artificially high. 

Noah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Peter Morgano]

Why not get the San Marcos if you are looking for a roadie 700c bike? Save
yourself 1k to put towards a ultrega light weight build.
On Dec 20, 2012 12:53 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> @Esteban:
>>
>>
> I would like a custom, but the $$ are so high for them these days.
> I think I would want to test ride my next Rivbike purchase as I am gonna
> look for something a little quicker than the Bleriot I have.
> It handles great and is very stable and I love it, but want to find
> something that is easier to pedal for my next ride. 700c, so that would
> mean a 55 Hilsen if I had to buy tomorrow.
>
> I like the 650b idea, but too limited in tire choices to get something
> "just right" that I am looking for. Also, I live in a non-650b LBS
> territory. I live in 700cville.
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Kelly]

Tom, the AHH is a premier bike in my opinion,  it's the bike for me that put 
joy back into riding.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Noah Deuce]

A friend described my Hilsen setup as the "full Grant," and that's basically 
true in the cockpit: Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem, Nitto Mustache handlebars, a 
two-bolt Nitto seatpost, and a Rivet Cycles Pearl saddle (which is awesome, by 
the way). Tektro/Silver brakes. 

Wheels are 32h Chris King hubs laced to DT-Swiss double eyelet 1.1 rims. 
Fantastic wheelset, built for me by Dave Chase at Redstone Cyclery in Lyons, 
CO. 

Drivetrain is a little different. 46 tooth single front ring, 11-32 9spd 
cassette, with a short cage SRAM X9 Type 2 rear derailleur shifted by a Silver 
friction shifter. 

I took a chance on the derailleur-shifter combo, since Riv says the Silver 
shifters don't work with the SRAM mountain derailleurs. And this works awesome! 
Absolutely no shifting problems, and I love love love that I never have chain 
slap - the roller clutch in the derailleur controls things even on the 
gnarliest of gravel roads/railroad crossings/uneven pavement. 

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build - AHH

[James Warren]

Do it. I think it's the best bike ever.


On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:45 AM, Tom Harrop wrote:

> Kelly, thanks for the details. As a fellow large bike rider I think there 
> will be an AHH somewhere in my future...
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[RBW] FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[Minh]

Wow great price. Just for others I'm 6 ft tall and 32 inseam, and fit  a 60cm 
qb fine.  Both with mustache and alba bars. 

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[RBW] FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[dan gee]

I want this so much but am so lacking in justification. This is a great deal!

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[RBW] FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I'm about to get some elevator shoes and buy this bike! Just kidding, but 
somebody should buy it now!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Esteban]

How early is too early?  8am?  Where to start? 
I'm putting this on the calendar.  Good way to start 2013.  
Esteban


On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:57:39 PM UTC-8, Esteban wrote:
>
> I think I can make it for a Diablo run on New Year's -- morning?  I'll 
> bring the Protovelo up for this one - coming up for Christmas.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego - Martinez - Portero Hill SF, Calif.
>
> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:51:19 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>> I would have brought the Pug, but I figured that would be a theft target 
>> and not well suited to public transit. I brought my disc trucker with 
>> Rohloff, which looks unremarkable/ugly and has a more or less mud-proof 
>> drivetrain and braking system..
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:08:11 PM UTC-6, meehan...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>  
>>> Based on the fact that you said you're bringing your best mud bike, I 
>>> can only conclude that you've elected to bring the Pugsley on the trip to 
>>> the Bay Area? If so, that's an interesting choice to be certain. Or do you 
>>> consider one of your other bikes to be better in the mud than the Pug?
>>>  
>>> Shaun
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dan McNamara wrote:
>>>
 I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam 
 adventures. 

 Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't 
 rain this weekend.

 Dan

 Marin


 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy wrote:

> I'm in for Mt.D NYD...
>
> Dustin Goodwin
>
> WC Ca
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[RBW] Re: Ride thru snowy winters? How's your Riv-paint hold up?

[sameness]

Boeshield and Turtle Wax are your friends. Give it a quick shakedown and 
going over with a rag post-ride. Never leave it wet overnight. I've heard 
of people using Teflon tape around the headset races and at the seat 
post/seat tube juncture, but have never lived anywhere I'd see this in the 
wild.

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[RBW] FS 58cm Rambouillet frame with headset and brake

[Iron Rider]

I bought this frame but before building it up, I  decided to go with  a new 
A.H.H. instead. The frame is in great shape, but I can't keep both. Thought 
I would share with the group.:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Rambouillet-58cm-Frame-Headset-brakes-ONLY-/230899643123?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item35c2b0f2f3

Thanks. 

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[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[grant]

On the mid-back burner is a model of limited appeal because it'll come only 
in a 67cm with a 6-deg upsloping TT---a Sammish bike but a hair beefier and 
in a few ways NOT a Sam. Working name, which I won't have the cajones to go 
thru with, is the Clem Smith Jr. (the  "Smitty"?)  At this stage of 
development, that is what I'm calling it. It's like a superbeefy Sam for 
the tall and beefy hillbilly who doesn't sell enough pelts and gin and baby 
pigs to afford a custom. But it will be a super neat bike---with 
differences that make sense in a hugey, and still with the normal stuff we 
gotta have in all our bikes. Yes, lugs, etc.
It may be a year and a half out. We aren't sure where it makes sense to 
make it---Taiwan or WF or Nobi---cost varies, and there are mins to 
consider and cash flow and timing and all the fun stuff that rule our world 
here---but BIKEWISE, it'll be neat.  This is a "roadish" bike, but here 
that means any road, even road that aren't "country maintained."

On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:36:51 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> Seems like anything "new" would be pretty similar to the Hilsen, but 
> perhaps in a different color and with a different name. The roadish 
> Rivendell category is somewhat tightly constrained. I kinda doubt we'll see 
> a new Riv with press-in BB or a tapered headtube for zero-stack headset 
> anytime soon.
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:00:58 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Or do you think the Hilsen has a lock on it for now for the 
>> general-use-mobile?
>>  
>> The reason I ask is because if I had to buy a new bike soon, it would 
>> have to be the Hilsen for my taste/needs (commutin'/rec-rides).
>> Was wondering if sum-n' new might come out since they seem to stop 
>> production on frames every few years and come out with a new model 
>> replacement.
>>  
>> Just ponderin'.
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jim Mather]

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Esteban  wrote:
> How early is too early?  8am?  Where to start?

It was 30 degrees at 8 this morning in Walnut Creek, and 15 higher up
on Mt Diablo. I suggest starting at 10 am to give folks some time to
gather and for it to warm up a bit, but maybe 9 am would work too. RBW
will be closed, so meeting at BART might make the most sense. Pleasant
Hill BART is more bike friendly than Walnut Creek BART, and it's
adjacent to a MUP that can take us to the foot of the mountain with
minimal traffic.

Snow is forecast for the top of Diablo this weekend. I don't know the
forecast for Jan 1st yet, but you might bring tire chains just in
case.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] FS 58cm Rambouillet frame with headset and brake

[Noah Deuce]

Beautiful! If I didn't already have a Hilsen myself, I'd want to take it off 
your hands!

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Re: [RBW] More nice frames in Frame Specials: 61cm Custom & 58cm SimpleOne

[Philip Williamson]

No kidding. My size, too. 

Philip
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> That 61 custom is sweet, now if only I had a spare $2,700
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Dan McNamara 
> > wrote:
>
>> Plus a 51cm grey Betty Foy.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[Philip Williamson]

Good price on a great bike. 
I have the exact same green 60cm Quickbeam, and I've been riding it since 
2004. I'm 6'2". 

Philip
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>
> After a bit of soul-searching (and moving to a smaller apartment), I've 
> decided that it's time for my 60cm Quickbeam to find a new home where it 
> will get ridden more.  It's one of the original green ones, purchased in 
> August 2004.  It has...almost no original parts. :-)  
>
> -Chris King headset (silver, obviously)
> -Phil Wood flip-flop fixed/free rear wheel, hand built, Mavic Open Pro 
> rim, 32h
> -Original Suzue(?) front hub, hand built into a wheel with a Mavic CXP-33 
> rim, 32h
> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem
> -Nitto Mustache handlebars
> -Panaracer T-Serv Messenger tires, 700x35 (incidentally, I can't recommend 
> these tires enough, in any size, for any bike that isn't a dedicated 
> mountain bike or gravel racer)
> -Original Sugino 110x74 triple crank
> -Brass-looking bell
>
> The bike is currently set up as a fixed gear, so it only has a front 
> brake/brake lever (Shimano BR-550, and Tiagra lever).  Gearing is 48x18 
> (Surly stainless chainring, EAI cog, Phil Wood locking), which may not be 
> your cup of tea.  I have some smaller chainrings (a new 34 and a moderately 
> used 42), as well as an outer pant guard ring (smooth, no teeth, not sure 
> what to call it) that will cover up to a 48 (as I recall).  So I'd throw 
> those in for you, if you want them.  I'm not including a seat post or seat, 
> because, well, I need to be able to ride my other bike.  :-)
> The pedals and the Pitlock skewer you see in the pictures are also not 
> included.  The Pitlock will be replaced with a nice XT quick release. 
>  There's a set of Planet Bike fenders that I'm happy to include as well.
>
> Normal wear and tear for a well-loved bike of its age.  The one important 
> paint issue is the drive-side dropout that got scored by my chain several 
> years ago.  I sent Grant a picture, and he told me it was nothing to worry 
> about from a frame integrity standpoint, and it's not easy to see at all 
> unless you get down to stare at the dropout, but I wanted to let you know 
> about it.
>
> I'm 5'8", 30" inseam, not particularly long in the arms.  The bike as set 
> up now is upright-ish, but not cruiser-bars-sit-up-straight.
>
> Pictures here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDg9tJF (sorry they're not artfully 
> posed - we just had snow here, and it's bloody cold outside).
>
> I'd like to sell for $750 (which doesn't include packing and shipping by 
> REI, if that should be required).
>
> Let me know any questions, and thanks for looking/reading!
>

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[RBW] Re: A unTypical Ride

[Mike]

Thanks for posting Manny. Looks like a fun time was had by all. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I have a 31" or 79 cm PBH (30" inseam pants) and ride a 54 AHH. My
saddle height is 69 cm. With a 61 cm seat tube and 170 mm cranks that
amounts to 61+17cm=78 cm of crank length to the top of the seat tube,
which would give me a 1cm seat + seatpost height (impossible for me).
Does your 30" inseam translate to a ~86 cm PBH?

Toshi

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Noah Deuce  wrote:
> Michael,
>
> I have a 700 Hilsen.
> As a side note, don't be afraid to follow Riv sizing conventions. I'm 5'8", 
> 30" inseam, not oddly proportioned, and I ride a 61cm. And I'm riding 
> clipless with my cleats shoved all the way back in the slot, so my saddle 
> height isn't artificially high.
>
> Noah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I must thin more closely about a 1XN drivetrain. Tell me: does the Ram
have dt shifter bosses, or just housing stops? (I would have to
saw/file/dremel/and twist the left stop off.)

(Juuust kidding, Steve.)

In other news: talked at length yestiddy to a roadie employed by local
high end shop Fat Tire here on our westside. He told me he had ridden
some shop blowouts (no pun intended) of very high end and delicate
("800 miles") racing tubs all around town for 6-8 months and that the
Stan's had made this trouble free. Except! That Stan's will within 3-4
months coagulate and clump into little golf balls at one place in the
tire, thus causing a weight imbalance. Add more Stan's as required by
instructions and you gradually get larger golf balls. Still, I think
my plan, to go sew up if I can do so on the cheap, is a reasonable
one. Shop has "good" Vittorias for $35 and high end ones for $60.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Noah Deuce  wrote:
> A friend described my Hilsen setup as the "full Grant," and that's basically 
> true in the cockpit: Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem, Nitto Mustache handlebars, 
> a two-bolt Nitto seatpost, and a Rivet Cycles Pearl saddle (which is awesome, 
> by the way). Tektro/Silver brakes.
>
> Wheels are 32h Chris King hubs laced to DT-Swiss double eyelet 1.1 rims. 
> Fantastic wheelset, built for me by Dave Chase at Redstone Cyclery in Lyons, 
> CO.
>
> Drivetrain is a little different. 46 tooth single front ring, 11-32 9spd 
> cassette, with a short cage SRAM X9 Type 2 rear derailleur shifted by a 
> Silver friction shifter.
>
> I took a chance on the derailleur-shifter combo, since Riv says the Silver 
> shifters don't work with the SRAM mountain derailleurs. And this works 
> awesome! Absolutely no shifting problems, and I love love love that I never 
> have chain slap - the roller clutch in the derailleur controls things even on 
> the gnarliest of gravel roads/railroad crossings/uneven pavement.
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[RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Michael]

>
> Why do you want sew ups?
> More troublesome to fix, and more dangerous on descents due to heating up 
> if the glue.
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[RBW] Re: Ride thru snowy winters? How's your Riv-paint hold up?

[Michael]

>
> I have heard of caulking the top of the seat tube and where the handlebar 
> stem enters the headset.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Sheer perversity. Seriously, I don't want to go to my grave without
having experienced what experienced cyclists have claimed to be the ne
plus ultra of tires. Am checking into a cheap package of used wheels
and tires even as we speak. We'll see.

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>> Why do you want sew ups?
>>
>> More troublesome to fix, and more dangerous on descents due to heating up
>> if the glue.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Noah Deuce]

@Toshi: Yes, my 30" inseam gives me a saddle height of about 78cm, and a pubic 
bone height of about 86cm. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 12:35 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> I must thin more closely about a 1XN drivetrain. Tell me: does the Ram
> have dt shifter bosses, or just housing stops? (I would have to
> saw/file/dremel/and twist the left stop off.)
> 
> (Juuust kidding, Steve.)

Mine had downtube shifter bosses.



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[RBW] Re: FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[Montclair BobbyB]

And I've got a 60cm S1 and am smitten with it... THIS is a DEAL, somebody 
jump on this!!!

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:57:41 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Good price on a great bike. 
> I have the exact same green 60cm Quickbeam, and I've been riding it since 
> 2004. I'm 6'2". 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:21:34 PM UTC-8, Noah Deuce wrote:
>>
>> After a bit of soul-searching (and moving to a smaller apartment), I've 
>> decided that it's time for my 60cm Quickbeam to find a new home where it 
>> will get ridden more.  It's one of the original green ones, purchased in 
>> August 2004.  It has...almost no original parts. :-)  
>>
>> -Chris King headset (silver, obviously)
>> -Phil Wood flip-flop fixed/free rear wheel, hand built, Mavic Open Pro 
>> rim, 32h
>> -Original Suzue(?) front hub, hand built into a wheel with a Mavic CXP-33 
>> rim, 32h
>> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem
>> -Nitto Mustache handlebars
>> -Panaracer T-Serv Messenger tires, 700x35 (incidentally, I can't 
>> recommend these tires enough, in any size, for any bike that isn't a 
>> dedicated mountain bike or gravel racer)
>> -Original Sugino 110x74 triple crank
>> -Brass-looking bell
>>
>> The bike is currently set up as a fixed gear, so it only has a front 
>> brake/brake lever (Shimano BR-550, and Tiagra lever).  Gearing is 48x18 
>> (Surly stainless chainring, EAI cog, Phil Wood locking), which may not be 
>> your cup of tea.  I have some smaller chainrings (a new 34 and a moderately 
>> used 42), as well as an outer pant guard ring (smooth, no teeth, not sure 
>> what to call it) that will cover up to a 48 (as I recall).  So I'd throw 
>> those in for you, if you want them.  I'm not including a seat post or seat, 
>> because, well, I need to be able to ride my other bike.  :-)
>> The pedals and the Pitlock skewer you see in the pictures are also not 
>> included.  The Pitlock will be replaced with a nice XT quick release. 
>>  There's a set of Planet Bike fenders that I'm happy to include as well.
>>
>> Normal wear and tear for a well-loved bike of its age.  The one important 
>> paint issue is the drive-side dropout that got scored by my chain several 
>> years ago.  I sent Grant a picture, and he told me it was nothing to worry 
>> about from a frame integrity standpoint, and it's not easy to see at all 
>> unless you get down to stare at the dropout, but I wanted to let you know 
>> about it.
>>
>> I'm 5'8", 30" inseam, not particularly long in the arms.  The bike as set 
>> up now is upright-ish, but not cruiser-bars-sit-up-straight.
>>
>> Pictures here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDg9tJF (sorry they're not artfully 
>> posed - we just had snow here, and it's bloody cold outside).
>>
>> I'd like to sell for $750 (which doesn't include packing and shipping by 
>> REI, if that should be required).
>>
>> Let me know any questions, and thanks for looking/reading!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Unacceptable! I'm coming to California for fun in the sun!

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:57:13 AM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Esteban > 
> wrote: 
> > How early is too early?  8am?  Where to start? 
>
> It was 30 degrees at 8 this morning in Walnut Creek, and 15 higher up 
> on Mt Diablo. I suggest starting at 10 am to give folks some time to 
> gather and for it to warm up a bit, but maybe 9 am would work too. RBW 
> will be closed, so meeting at BART might make the most sense. Pleasant 
> Hill BART is more bike friendly than Walnut Creek BART, and it's 
> adjacent to a MUP that can take us to the foot of the mountain with 
> minimal traffic. 
>
> Snow is forecast for the top of Diablo this weekend. I don't know the 
> forecast for Jan 1st yet, but you might bring tire chains just in 
> case. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
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[RBW] Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Chris]

Hey guys,
I have a 57cm 1984 Univega Speciallisimo touring frame and I'd love to put a 
700 drop Sam build on that. Is that doable at my LBS?
I'm obviously new at this sort of thing.

Thanks,
C

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Jim Mather]

No -- the build kit has sidepull brakes. Your Speciallisimo takes cantis.

jim m
wc ca

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Chris  wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I have a 57cm 1984 Univega Speciallisimo touring frame and I'd love to put a 
> 700 drop Sam build on that. Is that doable at my LBS?
> I'm obviously new at this sort of thing.
>
> Thanks,
> C
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[RBW] Re: Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I suggest taking the build list and the frame to your LBS and asking. My 
guess is that some of the new parts won't be 100% compatible with the older 
frame, and your LBS should be able to help you fill in the gaps.

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:55:45 PM UTC-6, Chris wrote:
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> Hey guys,
> I have a 57cm 1984 Univega Speciallisimo touring frame and I'd love to put 
> a 700 drop Sam build on that. Is that doable at my LBS?
> I'm obviously new at this sort of thing.
>
> Thanks,
> C
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

That brings up another point about brakes. Often these 1980s bikes have 
very narrow spacing between the cantilever brakes, and new cantilevers and 
v-brakes don't work.


On Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:03:32 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
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> No -- the build kit has sidepull brakes. Your Speciallisimo takes cantis. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Chris > 
> wrote: 
> > Hey guys, 
> > I have a 57cm 1984 Univega Speciallisimo touring frame and I'd love to 
> put a 700 drop Sam build on that. Is that doable at my LBS? 
> > I'm obviously new at this sort of thing. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > C 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Marty]

OK, I jumped in and picked up a Bosco Bullmoose bar, a Marks tool wrap, 
toestraps, fenders, magnets, poster, bandanas, kickstand, and a few things I 
forgot. Not sure what kind of frame I'd spec. If and when, but the new bike is 
interesting. I love single speeds too, and a custom 1 is a serious thought. If 
and when, I may have a 64 QB and/or 60 Bombadil on the market. 

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[RBW] Re: Ride thru snowy winters? How's your Riv-paint hold up?

[Marc Irwin]

Longboards will make a big difference, I use LPS-3, rust inhibitor, inside 
the frame every couple of years.  Turtle wax outside and just keep the 
frame wiped off on a regular basis.  Don't panic, it'll be fine.

Marc

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:55:42 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
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> Wanna keep riding thru winter, but don't know if the salted roads would be 
> suicide for my frame. I do use Longboards.
>  
> How have your Riv's held up to the abuse?
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Chris Burgess]

Ah. See I'm glad I came here first. Thank you guys.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery  
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> That brings up another point about brakes. Often these 1980s bikes have very 
> narrow spacing between the cantilever brakes, and new cantilevers and 
> v-brakes don't work.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:03:32 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
>> 
>> No -- the build kit has sidepull brakes. Your Speciallisimo takes cantis. 
>> 
>> jim m 
>> wc ca 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Chris  wrote: 
>> > Hey guys, 
>> > I have a 57cm 1984 Univega Speciallisimo touring frame and I'd love to put 
>> > a 700 drop Sam build on that. Is that doable at my LBS? 
>> > I'm obviously new at this sort of thing. 
>> > 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > C 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Ha!

Maybe we have the same inseam but differ in PBH by 7 cm because I wear
my pants over my belly and you wear yours gangsta style. :-)

Toshi


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> @Toshi: Yes, my 30" inseam gives me a saddle height of about 78cm, and a 
> pubic bone height of about 86cm.
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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[allenmichael]

It was sunny (but not warm) out at ocean beach this morning. Maybe a 
coastal ride in Marin one day? Are there good trails there? I'm in for Jan. 
1.

On Monday, December 17, 2012 12:15:26 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train, 
> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From 
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp 
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of 
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
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[RBW] WTB: MUSA shorts, old style (M)

[allenmichael]

Does anyone have some of the older style MUSA shorts in medium they are not 
using and not likely to use? I bought a butternut pair on ebay awhile ago, 
and I love them. I've tried on the new shorts, and the fit isn't as good. I 
would love to have more than one pair. Color unimportant.

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[RBW] Re: Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Garth]

Do talk your shop Chris, but you won't have too many problems if any.  You 
may not be able to use as wide as tires as a Sam, but for the most part 
you'll be fine :) 
here's a photo I found online of the frame for everyone .   This one has DC 
980- canti's and Sugino AT triple so you'll have no issues with "modern" 
canti's or cranks.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/rese_arch/7175121318/

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[RBW] Re: Sam Build on Univega Frame?

[Garth]

You won't be able to use as wide a tires as on a Sam, but your shop should 
help you with what will work, with and without fenders :) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Peter Morgano]

I have a set of sew up wheels, dura ace hubs with a corn cob cluster. Free
for the price of shipping if you want them. They have been in the basement
for a couple years. Probably late 80s vintage.
On Dec 20, 2012 2:53 PM, "PATRICK MOORE"  wrote:

> Sheer perversity. Seriously, I don't want to go to my grave without
> having experienced what experienced cyclists have claimed to be the ne
> plus ultra of tires. Am checking into a cheap package of used wheels
> and tires even as we speak. We'll see.
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael  wrote:
> >> Why do you want sew ups?
> >>
> >> More troublesome to fix, and more dangerous on descents due to heating
> up
> >> if the glue.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Peter, I love you. (Properly.) That is just what I've been looking
for: free wheels.

How do you want to do this: I will happily pay shipping up front.

Many, many thanks! If and when I jetison them, I will be sure to pass
them on gratis to another user.

PAM

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> I have a set of sew up wheels, dura ace hubs with a corn cob cluster. Free
> for the price of shipping if you want them. They have been in the basement
> for a couple years. Probably late 80s vintage.
>
> On Dec 20, 2012 2:53 PM, "PATRICK MOORE"  wrote:
>>
>> Sheer perversity. Seriously, I don't want to go to my grave without
>> having experienced what experienced cyclists have claimed to be the ne
>> plus ultra of tires. Am checking into a cheap package of used wheels
>> and tires even as we speak. We'll see.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael  wrote:
>> >> Why do you want sew ups?
>> >>
>> >> More troublesome to fix, and more dangerous on descents due to heating
>> >> up
>> >> if the glue.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Peter Morgano]

No problem, it won't be until next week though, if that's okay. Let's talk
offline about shipping, it's unfortunately Greek to me.
On Dec 20, 2012 7:30 PM, "PATRICK MOORE"  wrote:

> Peter, I love you. (Properly.) That is just what I've been looking
> for: free wheels.
>
> How do you want to do this: I will happily pay shipping up front.
>
> Many, many thanks! If and when I jetison them, I will be sure to pass
> them on gratis to another user.
>
> PAM
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Peter Morgano 
> wrote:
> > I have a set of sew up wheels, dura ace hubs with a corn cob cluster.
> Free
> > for the price of shipping if you want them. They have been in the
> basement
> > for a couple years. Probably late 80s vintage.
> >
> > On Dec 20, 2012 2:53 PM, "PATRICK MOORE"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sheer perversity. Seriously, I don't want to go to my grave without
> >> having experienced what experienced cyclists have claimed to be the ne
> >> plus ultra of tires. Am checking into a cheap package of used wheels
> >> and tires even as we speak. We'll see.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael 
> wrote:
> >> >> Why do you want sew ups?
> >> >>
> >> >> More troublesome to fix, and more dangerous on descents due to
> heating
> >> >> up
> >> >> if the glue.
> >> >
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[RBW] extra long seat post => hard to budge??

[ted]

Does having a lot of post down in the seat tube make it more prone to
sticking?
I went to adjust a post on a recent acquisition yesterday, and found I
couldn't budge it. I thought perhaps I had a dreaded "stuck post". So
I pulled the clamp bolt out, flexed the clamp ears a bit, applied some
penetrating oil and left it for later. Today I put a b-17 on it
adjusted square to the axis and with a lot of effort got the thing to
twist a bit. Since is was so hard to budge I figured I better pull it
all the way out. Turns out it's really long, like you could run close
to a foot of post showing long.
Could it being so long have contributed to my difficulty adjusting it?

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Re: [RBW] extra long seat post => hard to budge??

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'd say, "no sh*t"! Ask me how I know!

The shite Big 5 cruiser I just turned into something rideable for a
charity recipient (thanks to those who donated parts for the cause)
had a (expletive deleted), low end, 300 mm suspension post shoved
through a shim and all the way down until the clamp bottomed out on
the frame. Getting that POS out was a real chore! (It was replaced by
a very nice 27.0 Ritchey Force sp very strangely cut down to about 100
mm long (that's right), but as the recipient is short, this worked
well.)

[BTW: here it is, both before and after.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5823569176782452770

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5823820300053057762]

Patrick Moore, who just found that a 25.4 mm seatpost works fine in a
25.0 seat tube with the addition of grease and a mallet.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:14 PM, ted  wrote:
> Does having a lot of post down in the seat tube make it more prone to
> sticking?
> I went to adjust a post on a recent acquisition yesterday, and found I
> couldn't budge it. I thought perhaps I had a dreaded "stuck post". So
> I pulled the clamp bolt out, flexed the clamp ears a bit, applied some
> penetrating oil and left it for later. Today I put a b-17 on it
> adjusted square to the axis and with a lot of effort got the thing to
> twist a bit. Since is was so hard to budge I figured I better pull it
> all the way out. Turns out it's really long, like you could run close
> to a foot of post showing long.
> Could it being so long have contributed to my difficulty adjusting it?
>



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[RBW] Re: extra long seat post => hard to budge??

[Garth]

not really ... as long it was greased.

I've found my Bombadil frame is much snugger fitting than any other frame I 
have had. Long or short seatpost ... it's a pita to move around .   So it's 
likely more the steel tubing variation you are experiencing . 

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[RBW] Re: extra long seat post => hard to budge??

[Garth]

oh .. and frame saver ..lol .  If you have any in the upper seatpost , 
remove it  that's stuff is very sticky ! 

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[RBW] Re: First commute on a Rivendell

[Michael]

>
> Wow! Full bling with the bottle cages and the wheel reflectors and the 
> sackvilles. Very nice! Congrats!
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[RBW] Raffle winner represent

[Allan in Portland]

I had been trying to decide whether to start this topic. Seeing the 
direction the "new Riv" thread went, it seems I'm not alone thinking along 
the same lines.

So, what is your custom idea?

Mine is a thin-wall, low-trail Saluki. (Would Grant do a low-trail custom? 
I think he would.) Hard part is the color. I loved the Bean & Grey Hunq, 
both color and small touches like the seat stay tops and fork crown 
details, but orange is pretty awesome too. And I'm not sure a custom in the 
colors of a stock model is proper etiquette. I'm sure Grant knows ;-), but 
anyone else venture an opinion?


And hey, even if you didn't enter, feel free to share.

Merry Christmas,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Raffle winner represent

[Michael]

>
> For my custom:
>
 
Frame and fork:
I would ask Rivendell for the lightest, fastest FF I could get that would 
let them still sleep well at night.
 
Paint:
Traced lugs/crown, cream headtube, and a very dark greenish/blueish 
patchwork plaid type color, or , whatever was available from their custom 
color charts. If not plaid, then some kinda metallic aqua color, but with 
the biggest sparkles (metal flake?) I could get that would still allow 
Rivendell employees sleep well at night.
 
Build:
Nitto, Nitto, Nitto, Brooks, Brooks, drivetrain up to the advice of Riv. 
Gearing light for hills. MKS Touring Pedals. Bar ends, Shimano brake 
levers. Toss up for Paul Racers or Silver-type Sidepulls - whatever is more 
fail-proof and easier to fix on the road. Wheels up to Rivendell, but husky 
enough so that they could still sleep well at night and I could mount 
30-something mm tires with enough clearance for fenders.
 
Eyelets/Braze-ons:
As many as they could sqeeze in, and still be able to sleep at night. I 
would *not *use them for racks, I just like to attach things to 'em (like 
fenders and extra tail lights and a Gino mount for a headlight.). I 
would use a saddle bag and two Nitto bottle holders.
 

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Re: [RBW] Raffle winner represent

[Olivier Chetelat]

Photoshopped photo here for I type too slow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8292632965/in/photostream/lightbox/

Olivier
SF



On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Allan in Portland
wrote:

> I had been trying to decide whether to start this topic. Seeing the
> direction the "new Riv" thread went, it seems I'm not alone thinking along
> the same lines.
>
> So, what is your custom idea?
>
> Mine is a thin-wall, low-trail Saluki. (Would Grant do a low-trail custom?
> I think he would.) Hard part is the color. I loved the Bean & Grey Hunq,
> both color and small touches like the seat stay tops and fork crown
> details, but orange is pretty awesome too. And I'm not sure a custom in the
> colors of a stock model is proper etiquette. I'm sure Grant knows ;-), but
> anyone else venture an opinion?
>
>
> And hey, even if you didn't enter, feel free to share.
>
> Merry Christmas,
> -Allan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Esteban]

Let's split the difference and say 9:30.  That way we can warm up and 
considering its following New Year's Eve, maybe some whisky would be in 
order in the am.  Anyway - Pleasant Hill BART station? 

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:57:13 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Esteban > 
> wrote: 
> > How early is too early?  8am?  Where to start? 
>
> It was 30 degrees at 8 this morning in Walnut Creek, and 15 higher up 
> on Mt Diablo. I suggest starting at 10 am to give folks some time to 
> gather and for it to warm up a bit, but maybe 9 am would work too. RBW 
> will be closed, so meeting at BART might make the most sense. Pleasant 
> Hill BART is more bike friendly than Walnut Creek BART, and it's 
> adjacent to a MUP that can take us to the foot of the mountain with 
> minimal traffic. 
>
> Snow is forecast for the top of Diablo this weekend. I don't know the 
> forecast for Jan 1st yet, but you might bring tire chains just in 
> case. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Pleasant Hill BART at 0930 1-Jan-2013. Sounds like a plan.

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