Re: [RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Tim Tetrault]

Scott, what size is it? I live in Seattle... but I just had a kid.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Scot Brooks  wrote:

> I've got a Bontrager Privateer Comp for sale in Seattle if anyone's
> interested. Green/yellow paint and full XT with V-brakes and a lovely Judy
> up front.
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[RBW] Re: Meet new people.

[Manuel Acosta]

Good times! Brian don't know when the dates would be but here's the 
proposed route. 
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDmNiB3

Just in reverse. If people don't mind barting to Fremont for the start it's 
a great ride. Open to route suggestions  Great number of bail out Bart 
stops for those looking to cut the ride short. Now just need to pick a 
date. Busy this weekend but the weekdays looks free for me.  Friday?

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[RBW] Re: Inch equivalent of 650b?

[Michael]

>
> My Hetres fit perfecty under my SKS P45 Longboards.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Anne Paulson]

Grant, thanks for the advice about CalTrain. Technically, you're not
allowed to take loaded touring bikes on CalTrain. That wouldn't
necessarily be a problem, but you're not allowed to take loaded
touring bikes on CalTrain because you'd have to carry them up and down
a steep narrow staircase, which I am not strong enough to do. I have
trouble carrying an empty bike down the Caltrain steps.

But I'll be there. I'll just ride over the bridge to Fremont. It's 30
miles, but it's 30 flat miles and half of it is along the creek and
through the Baylands, a ride I always enjoy. And since we're starting
in the afternoon, I'll have plenty of time.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM, grant  wrote:

> Anne, there is CalTrain to SF, then BART. I've taken CalTrain only once and
> don't know any more about it than that it goes between the SoBay and
> SF...but I hope you get a ride!
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Re: [RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Scot Brooks]

I've got a Bontrager Privateer Comp for sale in Seattle if anyone's interested. 
Green/yellow paint and full XT with V-brakes and a lovely Judy up front. 

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Re: [RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[James Warren]

My brother's 1992 Bontrager (pre-Trek) is still an awesome bike. Rides equal to 
my Bstone MB, which is still my #1 pure dirt choice. I told him he should not 
listen to our other friends who are constantly urging: "upgrade, new bike, get 
it."

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:03 PM, velomann  wrote:

> I have a 95 Bontrager Race straight from the Santa Cruz shop. Don't ride it 
> enough, but every time I do it puts a silly grin on my face. It sports a not 
> very impressive Rock Shox Mag fork and I've thought more than once about 
> ordering a custom rigid fork; I've raced short track with it, and there's 
> another local racer who has a Race Lite with the sweet Bontrager rigid fork - 
> covet! Hadn't occurred to me to consider a 650b conversion. Hmmm. Of all 
> my bikes, it's definitely the last one I'd think of selling.
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[RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Philip Williamson]

Yep. A Bontrager CX bike would be great. I don't know if Rock Lobster still 
makes Nontragers, but you could always ask...

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Philip Williamson]

Again, the iPad eats a post. Basically I said, "blah blah blah, look at this: 
http://www.arkansasvalley.net/bontrager/";
I agree with Velomann about never selling my Bontrager, but I've seen 
Privateers recently on CL for $250. Bargain.

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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[grant]

The "classic" S24O is a stealthy, technically illegal, but not immoral or 
unethical sleepout in the hills, and works easiest when everybody is tiny, 
fast, wears black hoodies, and can pedal over rice paper without ripping 
it. This ideal is never achieved, but the image of it is good to keep in 
mind as the group gets bigger.There have been cutbacks in rangership due to 
budget cuts, and that plays well for us illegals for sure, but there's no 
guarantee. Pick a route (Tony? Manny?) and it'll be neat! There are 
reservable legal campsites. 

For a smooth takeoff, it'll be good for all who go to be camping gear 
independent (I posted my recommended gear checklist a few days ago, but of 
course it's totally personal. It's super handy to know how to set up the 
tent you're sleeping in, and to have stakes for it. Spikey stakes will work 
better than the big yellow ones, unless have something to pount them in 
with. Liesl, tell me what you'll need to borrow, and tentwise---you'll get 
all the help you need (way too much trouble to haul all the gear needed for 
an S24O).

Anne, there is CalTrain to SF, then BART. I've taken CalTrain only once and 
don't know any more about it than that it goes between the SoBay and 
SF...but I hope you get a ride!

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[RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[velomann]

ps - What I'D LOVE to have though is one of the Bontrager cross bikes - THAT 
would be sweet! Or a Ritchey.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Reid]

Anne -- If I can stand the cold weather that's supposed to be here by then 
(yeah, I'm a wimp), I was planning on taking CalTrain (Menlo Park or Palo 
Alto) to BART then to RBWHQ. Although the more I think about it, the more 
I'm drawn to a jaunt across the Dumbarton bridge to BART. Hmmm. Dumbarton 
going East in the afternoon almost guarantees a lovely tailwind. Always 
makes me feel that I'm getting a freebie. Maybe we could meet up for one 
mode or the other. I'll let you know if I'm a definite.
 
Reid
 

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[RBW] Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[velomann]

I have a 95 Bontrager Race straight from the Santa Cruz shop. Don't ride it 
enough, but every time I do it puts a silly grin on my face. It sports a not 
very impressive Rock Shox Mag fork and I've thought more than once about 
ordering a custom rigid fork; I've raced short track with it, and there's 
another local racer who has a Race Lite with the sweet Bontrager rigid fork - 
covet! Hadn't occurred to me to consider a 650b conversion. Hmmm. Of all my 
bikes, it's definitely the last one I'd think of selling.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Anne Paulson]

Bacon wrapped hot dogs? Bacon wrapped hot dogs are awesome.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Manuel Acosta
 wrote:
> I love it. Basically meet at rivhq at 2ish for a camp shinding somewhere. 
> Wing it. Best way to it. Let me know if theres anything I can help or bring. 
> Extra hammock?




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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[Philip Williamson]

I'm in for a pin if you get them going again. I second the Etsy suggestion - 
it's been easy, and the fees aren't gouge-y.
I am right now working on designing some bicycle Merit Badges for different 
bike skills and achievements, so this was a topical thread resurrection for me!

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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Manuel Acosta]

I love it. Basically meet at rivhq at 2ish for a camp shinding somewhere. Wing 
it. Best way to it. Let me know if theres anything I can help or bring. Extra 
hammock? 

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[William]

Andrew

Mark referred to two small panniers that he thought would work now.  One 
was an Ortlieb model but I forget what it is.  The other, I don't even 
remember the brand.  Some help I am.  

My plan is to build my own sleeping bag and thermarest retention units to 
mount to the HA Racks.  Between corroplast and webbing, it's a fair weather 
S24O kind of solution.  

Since I'm a compulsive bag-matcher I'm certain I'll nab some Sackville 
branded micro panniers when they appear.  I did not press Mark for an ETA 
on those.  

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:51:01 PM UTC-8, Andrew Letton wrote:
>
> Looks great!  That's the exact same hack that I'm planning on my Bombadil.
> Did you hear anything more about the bags that are in the works for the 
> HAR?
> cheers,
> Andrew
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:11:42 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
>>
>> I went by Riv HQ on my birthday (the 8th) to buy some stuff with my B-Day 
>> discount.  I got to see the Hub Area Rack on the floor demo Hillborne, and 
>> got to talking with Mark about it.  Luckily enough, I ended up leaving with 
>> one of the prototypes to play with.  I can't say anything about the load 
>> carrying capability of the Hub Area Rack.  As many of you know, I'm a 
>> compulsive bike mechanic first and an actual user and rider second.  
>>
>> Anyhow, my DIY project was the massive integration of a Nitto Mini Front 
>> Rack + a Nitto Platrack + a Hub Area Rack.  The result is Franken-Rack.  
>> Have a look if you like:
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157632769612752/with/8473562333/
>>
>> Next project is a DIY bag for the Hub Area Rack.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[jinxed]

PLEASE HOLD OFF on any further orders...let me look into creating a proper 
cart.

I get in touch with the pin people tomorrow and see what timing and pricing 
look like now. I will follow up when I have info. I will assume they kept 
the dies and if production is the same it was @ 3 week turnaround.

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[Mike Schiller]

...another thing I'm curious about is how the rack accommodates different 
fork rakes. Even on Riv's there is a 1.5+ cm difference between some 
models. 


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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[Andrew Letton]

Looks great!  That's the exact same hack that I'm planning on my Bombadil.
Did you hear anything more about the bags that are in the works for the HAR?
cheers,
Andrew

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:11:42 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
>
> I went by Riv HQ on my birthday (the 8th) to buy some stuff with my B-Day 
> discount.  I got to see the Hub Area Rack on the floor demo Hillborne, and 
> got to talking with Mark about it.  Luckily enough, I ended up leaving with 
> one of the prototypes to play with.  I can't say anything about the load 
> carrying capability of the Hub Area Rack.  As many of you know, I'm a 
> compulsive bike mechanic first and an actual user and rider second.  
>
> Anyhow, my DIY project was the massive integration of a Nitto Mini Front 
> Rack + a Nitto Platrack + a Hub Area Rack.  The result is Franken-Rack.  
> Have a look if you like:
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157632769612752/with/8473562333/
>
> Next project is a DIY bag for the Hub Area Rack.  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[cyclotourist]

+1 for Burrito wraps... I use that exclusively on my open-wheeled bike.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6909297624/in/set-72157604046492434
It doesn't bounce around too much, but enough. Never came loose.

On the rough stuff bike, I always have one as well, but usually keep it in
a bag or rack due to potential to carry other things.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4320665507/
I'll often use toe straps to hold it on, multiple redundancies and such.
Never a problem with that one either.



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Christopher Murray <
chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And the burrito wrap seems to come loose and get dropped- maybe just for
> me? Much higher risk to get lost. I keep just the essentials and tie it up
> with hemp twine and then use the strap through the twine. It takes a few
> extra minutes to open but is much more secure, gives me some twine if I
> need it, and what's not to like about twine! Alas no shellac.
>
> Cheers!
> cm
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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[Leslie]

Have to admit, the day I discovered that my ACW pin had disappeared off of my 
saddlebag, I was sorely heartbroken.  

I'm game for picking up a few more pins;  and am all ears on any advice for on 
how to keep them from falling off as you ride... I never expected such

Of course, stitching a patch on would work, but, there's something classy about 
cloisonné

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[Brian Campbell]

Great and thanks! I only sent $6 so let me know if you need more. Inflation 
and all...:)

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:24:19 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:
>
> No worries. I need to take care of David first...but I think I could pull 
> one off my bag if need be.
>
> I need to figure a way to edit the original post to take out the payment 
> info. :)
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:18:31 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Ha! I just sent money half way through the first paragraph! Did not 
>> realize this was from so long ago. If you have a pin, that would be great.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[jinxed]

No worries. I need to take care of David first...but I think I could pull 
one off my bag if need be.

I need to figure a way to edit the original post to take out the payment 
info. :)

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:18:31 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Ha! I just sent money half way through the first paragraph! Did not 
> realize this was from so long ago. If you have a pin, that would be great.
>

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Tim Tetrault]

I want a Bontrager Privateer pretty bad. Those frames were really cool, and 
Bontrager seems to be kind of retro in his stylings before Trek perhaps 
drove a dumptruck full of cash up to his house. Or is the story different? 
Anyone know how Trek came to acquire the name?

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:34:09 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I love Mark's bikes, but hadn't seen the Bontrager before. Nice Santa Cruz 
> style two-piece stays, and presumably non-original 650B front end. I've 
> thought about doing the same, but don't have the stones. I think a Kona P2 
> would work, but Mark's fork looks like a custom segmented Igleheart, or 
> similar. Has anyone chatted with him about how he likes the setup?
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>

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[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

[Tim Tetrault]

Jim, that self canceling phenomenon can really be the fly in the ointment 
when it comes to diagnosis. Well said. And kudos to you for lubing the 
threads before retightening, I recently learned that this can help the 
fastener bite its match with greater ease, leaving things even tighter. 

Patrick- I think I agree, if your frame is a good fit. Threadless stems can 
be affordable to experiment with. 

On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:36 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote:
>
> Anybody have experience clearing up this forward rocking I have with my 
> long reach Tektros that are in the standard build for the Sam Hilborne? 
> When I brake sharply (or even if I don't and I'm just carrying weight I 
> experience this slight, singular vibration that I can feel in the 
> handlebar... the brakes are rocking forward a bit, and it is very 
> disconcerting. I took it to a mechanic I work with and he basically said 
> that it was something that happened with long reach brakes, v-brakes, 
> anything with a long arm design. I feel skeptical. 
>
> Thanks for your help- let me know if posting a pic of my current set up 
> would help- I gotta believe they can function better than this. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[Brian Campbell]

Ha! I just sent money half way through the first paragraph! Did not realize 
this was from so long ago. If you have a pin, that would be great!

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:03:14 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:
>
> I had considered this for my art prints, but then dealing with tax, and 
> yet another fee scared me off. Maybe I should revisit?
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:56:51 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>>
>> An etsy storefront is pretty easy to set up and allows folks to buy from 
>> you 24/7 and manages your inventory for you.  That's where I sell the 
>> products of my secret hobby:  the worlds best tape wallets:
>>
>> tapebubba.etsy.com
>>
>> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:16:59 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey there!! Yea...I am the ground zero on the ACW. I might have a pin or 
>>> two stashed away, but I'll have to look. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I have already consulted an embroidery company on doing patches after a 
>>> lengthy and fun chat with Harry Hugel at Rivendell. Jeeze, that was a year 
>>> ago I think!! Man time just keeps rolling on. I used to be a commercial 
>>> embroiderer by trade so a patch was always on the burner. The pins were 
>>> unexpectedly CRAZY popular when I did them and I didnt anticipate the 
>>> shipping charges well nor a very streamlined ordering process
>>>
>>>
>>> SO that said...I'd be happy to do another lapel pin run, and or patch 
>>> run, IF I could come up with some officially non-official AND simple way to 
>>> take orders. Do any of you know an easy way to do this? The last time I 
>>> took email orders and it was crazy to keep track of as many people use 
>>> different emails for contact and paypal, not to mention screen names.
>>>
>>>
>>> The solid brass cloisonné pins would need to bump from $6 to $8 if the 
>>> pricing is the same. They were spendy, and shipping was more than I 
>>> estimated. I just need to break even...these were for fun, not money. Patch 
>>> pricing TBD but is usually based on stitch count which is connected to 
>>> size. Which brings up a question...what size patch?? Based on the design 
>>> and my experience, minimum would need to be 3 - 3.25" diameter. Too small? 
>>> Too big? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:15:16 AM UTC-7, David Strong wrote:

 Just stumbled upon the ACW pins and I fell in love. What are the 
 chances these could be re-upped. Pins or, even better, patches. I would 
 really be happy to get one of these. Is anybody here the original producer 
 of these goodies?? Let me know. Cheers, David S



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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Liesl]

Anne, *clearly* you are a Warrior!  This is getting to be pretty dang fun!  
Okay, for those of you who are following this (apparently rockin') thread: 
mid-afternoon seems to be a winner for our South Bay contingency.  So how 
about congregating in the vicinity of/by 2:00PM sat afternoon (as in on 
the  23rd/a week from this saturday) at Riv?  I assume it's bike-time which 
means things could be running behind.  It would be helpful perhaps to know 
who expects to be there so's we know when all the kittens are all 
collected.  I'll be there earlier, for sure.  

Looks like Tony has a spot in mind, and Manny if we remind him of the 
leash, and perhaps Jenny RCW West has a spot in mind, too.  I think we 
might just be able to decide on the fly, as it were, with the help of Riv 
HQ folk.  As longs as it's within an hour away as per Grant's wily advice I 
bet we can manage.  

How does this sound for an approximation of a Yabbut plan? 

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[jinxed]

I had considered this for my art prints, but then dealing with tax, and yet 
another fee scared me off. Maybe I should revisit?

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:56:51 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>
> An etsy storefront is pretty easy to set up and allows folks to buy from 
> you 24/7 and manages your inventory for you.  That's where I sell the 
> products of my secret hobby:  the worlds best tape wallets:
>
> tapebubba.etsy.com
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:16:59 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>>
>> Hey there!! Yea...I am the ground zero on the ACW. I might have a pin or 
>> two stashed away, but I'll have to look. 
>>
>>
>> I have already consulted an embroidery company on doing patches after a 
>> lengthy and fun chat with Harry Hugel at Rivendell. Jeeze, that was a year 
>> ago I think!! Man time just keeps rolling on. I used to be a commercial 
>> embroiderer by trade so a patch was always on the burner. The pins were 
>> unexpectedly CRAZY popular when I did them and I didnt anticipate the 
>> shipping charges well nor a very streamlined ordering process
>>
>>
>> SO that said...I'd be happy to do another lapel pin run, and or patch 
>> run, IF I could come up with some officially non-official AND simple way to 
>> take orders. Do any of you know an easy way to do this? The last time I 
>> took email orders and it was crazy to keep track of as many people use 
>> different emails for contact and paypal, not to mention screen names.
>>
>>
>> The solid brass cloisonné pins would need to bump from $6 to $8 if the 
>> pricing is the same. They were spendy, and shipping was more than I 
>> estimated. I just need to break even...these were for fun, not money. Patch 
>> pricing TBD but is usually based on stitch count which is connected to 
>> size. Which brings up a question...what size patch?? Based on the design 
>> and my experience, minimum would need to be 3 - 3.25" diameter. Too small? 
>> Too big? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:15:16 AM UTC-7, David Strong wrote:
>>>
>>> Just stumbled upon the ACW pins and I fell in love. What are the chances 
>>> these could be re-upped. Pins or, even better, patches. I would really be 
>>> happy to get one of these. Is anybody here the original producer of these 
>>> goodies?? Let me know. Cheers, David S
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[William]

An etsy storefront is pretty easy to set up and allows folks to buy from 
you 24/7 and manages your inventory for you.  That's where I sell the 
products of my secret hobby:  the worlds best tape wallets:

tapebubba.etsy.com

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:16:59 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:
>
> David,
>
>
> Hey there!! Yea...I am the ground zero on the ACW. I might have a pin or 
> two stashed away, but I'll have to look. 
>
>
> I have already consulted an embroidery company on doing patches after a 
> lengthy and fun chat with Harry Hugel at Rivendell. Jeeze, that was a year 
> ago I think!! Man time just keeps rolling on. I used to be a commercial 
> embroiderer by trade so a patch was always on the burner. The pins were 
> unexpectedly CRAZY popular when I did them and I didnt anticipate the 
> shipping charges well nor a very streamlined ordering process
>
>
> SO that said...I'd be happy to do another lapel pin run, and or patch run, 
> IF I could come up with some officially non-official AND simple way to take 
> orders. Do any of you know an easy way to do this? The last time I took 
> email orders and it was crazy to keep track of as many people use different 
> emails for contact and paypal, not to mention screen names.
>
>
> The solid brass cloisonné pins would need to bump from $6 to $8 if the 
> pricing is the same. They were spendy, and shipping was more than I 
> estimated. I just need to break even...these were for fun, not money. Patch 
> pricing TBD but is usually based on stitch count which is connected to 
> size. Which brings up a question...what size patch?? Based on the design 
> and my experience, minimum would need to be 3 - 3.25" diameter. Too small? 
> Too big? 
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:15:16 AM UTC-7, David Strong wrote:
>>
>> Just stumbled upon the ACW pins and I fell in love. What are the chances 
>> these could be re-upped. Pins or, even better, patches. I would really be 
>> happy to get one of these. Is anybody here the original producer of these 
>> goodies?? Let me know. Cheers, David S
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[William]

Mark told me the same thing that Grant posted on the Blug.  The racks are 
physically present at Riv HQ.  They just want to wait for Nitto to finish 
some testing and give a final thumbs up.  That was a week ago now, so if 
you called them, they might tell you something more accurate.  I expect 
we'll see them on the site any day now.  

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:26:22 PM UTC-8, C.J. Filip wrote:
>
> That may be one of the coolest Riv things I've seen.  Any insight on 
> when the HAR will be available? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[dougP]

Couple of more struts & you can saw off the fork blades below the canti 
bosses!  

dougP

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:11:42 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
>
> I went by Riv HQ on my birthday (the 8th) to buy some stuff with my B-Day 
> discount.  I got to see the Hub Area Rack on the floor demo Hillborne, and 
> got to talking with Mark about it.  Luckily enough, I ended up leaving with 
> one of the prototypes to play with.  I can't say anything about the load 
> carrying capability of the Hub Area Rack.  As many of you know, I'm a 
> compulsive bike mechanic first and an actual user and rider second.  
>
> Anyhow, my DIY project was the massive integration of a Nitto Mini Front 
> Rack + a Nitto Platrack + a Hub Area Rack.  The result is Franken-Rack.  
> Have a look if you like:
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157632769612752/with/8473562333/
>
> Next project is a DIY bag for the Hub Area Rack.  
>

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[C.J. Filip]

That may be one of the coolest Riv things I've seen.  Any insight on
when the HAR will be available?

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[jinxed]

David,


Hey there!! Yea...I am the ground zero on the ACW. I might have a pin or 
two stashed away, but I'll have to look. 


I have already consulted an embroidery company on doing patches after a 
lengthy and fun chat with Harry Hugel at Rivendell. Jeeze, that was a year 
ago I think!! Man time just keeps rolling on. I used to be a commercial 
embroiderer by trade so a patch was always on the burner. The pins were 
unexpectedly CRAZY popular when I did them and I didnt anticipate the 
shipping charges well nor a very streamlined ordering process


SO that said...I'd be happy to do another lapel pin run, and or patch run, 
IF I could come up with some officially non-official AND simple way to take 
orders. Do any of you know an easy way to do this? The last time I took 
email orders and it was crazy to keep track of as many people use different 
emails for contact and paypal, not to mention screen names.


The solid brass cloisonné pins would need to bump from $6 to $8 if the 
pricing is the same. They were spendy, and shipping was more than I 
estimated. I just need to break even...these were for fun, not money. Patch 
pricing TBD but is usually based on stitch count which is connected to 
size. Which brings up a question...what size patch?? Based on the design 
and my experience, minimum would need to be 3 - 3.25" diameter. Too small? 
Too big? 




On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:15:16 AM UTC-7, David Strong wrote:
>
> Just stumbled upon the ACW pins and I fell in love. What are the chances 
> these could be re-upped. Pins or, even better, patches. I would really be 
> happy to get one of these. Is anybody here the original producer of these 
> goodies?? Let me know. Cheers, David S
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Mike Schiller]

there are those among us who love the Rivendell bikes but prefer more 
modern accouterments and style. 

Also thanks for the new word. Didn't know what a koan was until today. 

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:38:54 AM UTC-8, pb wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:18:48 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?
>> jim m
>> wc ca
>>
>  
>  
> Nominated for line of the month, maybe the year.
>  
> I'm amused that Mark's bikes are so admired, and yet so  um...  
> conventional?  traditional?  un-rivvish? in their set-ups.  Gosh, they look 
> like bikes I might have sized and built.
>  
> ;-)
>  
> pb   
> (likes frames that are proportionate to the rider, and eschews Nitto 
> Talluxes) 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Philip Williamson]

They're stripped to their essence, meticulously dialed, and kept clean. The 
Platonic ideal of "bicycle."

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:38:54 AM UTC-8, pb wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:18:48 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?
>> jim m
>> wc ca
>>
>  
>  
> Nominated for line of the month, maybe the year.
>  
> I'm amused that Mark's bikes are so admired, and yet so  um...  
> conventional?  traditional?  un-rivvish? in their set-ups.  Gosh, they look 
> like bikes I might have sized and built.
>  
> ;-)
>  
> pb   
> (likes frames that are proportionate to the rider, and eschews Nitto 
> Talluxes) 
>

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[RBW] Re: FRANKEN-RACK!!

[William]

Minh

Yes.  The Platrack must have struts, but if you run those struts to the 
dropout, then you can't put a pannier on the hub area rack.  The Hub Area 
Rack has a tab to attach an optional strut.   I made my own custom strut to 
reinforce the Platrack, using the tab on the HARack

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:27:20 PM UTC-8, Minh wrote:
>
> hey, i think i see a bike attached to all racks in front :)  
>
> so the platrack is attached to the hub area rack?
>

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[RBW] FRANKEN-RACK!!

[Minh]

hey, i think i see a bike attached to all racks in front :)  

so the platrack is attached to the hub area rack?

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[RBW] Re: Luxos B dynamo light user review

[Minh]

Those Luxos pictures are almost unbelievable to me, it's just so incredibly 
wide and bright that it's hard to believe the headlight is that good.  it's 
really impressive what they've done with it, will be interesting if they expand 
the technology down the line (price) or across the line to something a little 
more aesthetically attractive (hey i love my the look of my edelux).

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[RBW] FRANKEN-RACK!!

[William]

I went by Riv HQ on my birthday (the 8th) to buy some stuff with my B-Day 
discount.  I got to see the Hub Area Rack on the floor demo Hillborne, and 
got to talking with Mark about it.  Luckily enough, I ended up leaving with 
one of the prototypes to play with.  I can't say anything about the load 
carrying capability of the Hub Area Rack.  As many of you know, I'm a 
compulsive bike mechanic first and an actual user and rider second.  

Anyhow, my DIY project was the massive integration of a Nitto Mini Front 
Rack + a Nitto Platrack + a Hub Area Rack.  The result is Franken-Rack.  
Have a look if you like:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157632769612752/with/8473562333/

Next project is a DIY bag for the Hub Area Rack.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inch equivalent of 650b?

[Montclair BobbyB]

Boy we make our world so confusing!!!  Thankfully I can always consult 
Sheldon Brown to keep all the various ETRTOs straight in my head.

For simplicity sake it can be useful to think of it in mountain bike terms, 
where the world is largely divided up between 26 inch and 29 inch wheels, 
with the new emerging (650B) standard splitting the difference at 27.5 
inches.

BB

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:28:24 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> "26" tires come in various bead seat diameters."
>
> Including one the British used as well as the infamous proprietary Schwinn 
> size.  And now the MTB world has "discovered" 650B but just to keep it 
> interesting they're calling it 27.5.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:12:59 PM UTC-8, kennet...@gmail.comwrote:
>>
>> Michael, 
>>
>> 26" tires come in various bead seat diameters.  Mores the pity.  As 
>> Steve pointed out the fractional width <> decimal width.  That's why 
>> it's always best to use the ETRTO size so you know what you're 
>> getting. 
>>
>> -Ken 
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Michael  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> You cannot use a 26" tire of any width/dimension for a 650b wheel 
>> because 
>> >> the Bead Seat Diameter is 584 for a 650b wheel, and 559 for 26" 
>> wheels. 
>> >> That's the part of the wheel where the bead of the tire clinches onto 
>> the 
>> >> hook of the rim. 
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > You need a 650b (584) size tire. Rivendell Bike Works sells the same 
>> tire in 
>> > 650b. Get 'em while they are available. 
>> > 
>> > Also note that a 650c tire will not work either on a 650b rim, as that 
>> > diameter is different, too. 
>> > 
>> > It is funny though how a 650b wheel and tire measures 26.5" from the 
>> ground 
>> > though. 
>> > 
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[RBW] Re: Luxos B dynamo light user review

[Montclair BobbyB]

Bravo, Peter... That's an awesome comparison.

The Mythbusters could use your ingenuity!!!  

BB

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:44:53 AM UTC-5, Peter White wrote:
>
> Putting the top of the beam 30 feet in front is viable if you're riding 
> slowly and using an older halogen headlight. But the newer lights, in 
> particular the latest Luxos headlights from Busch & Müller are far 
> brighter, and have very wide beams. So you can aim them higher and still 
> have plenty of light both close to the bike and at a distance.
>
> See the photos of the beams I've posted here.
>
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp
>
> Peter Jon White
> Peter White Cycles
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:44:42 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> A couple of notes on the installation of the Luxos B dynamo light: 
>>
>
> 
>  
>
>> The light output is quite ingenious--I think.  The way you align the 
>> light is to have the light hit the ground about 30 feet in front of 
>> you. What this does is put a big hotspot on the ground a little over a 
>> lane wide in front of you. This gives you clear vision of any 
>> obstacles in front of you, but there is still decent light within the 
>> U which spreads out from the bike to the hotspot. In addition the 
>> width of the light much wider than the Cyo--most of the 2 lane road. 
>> Don't throw the hotspot into the horizon, put it on the ground--it 
>> will improve the ride visibility immensely and you won't blind the 
>> traffic. 
>>
>
>  
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RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rock n Roads

[Bruce Gordon]

They are not WTB tires (WTB stands for want to buy)  They are Bruce Gordon
Rock 'n Road tires made in Japan by Panaracer.

They are great on the road - almost silent, not like bigger knobby tires

 

Regards,

Bruce Gordon

www.bgcycles.com

http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/

  _  

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:57 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rock n Roads

 

How are these WTBs on road, though?  They look like they would act
knobbish...

FWIW these remind me of the Kenda K-rad tire, a great choice for 26 inch
tires... especially if you're riding mostly dirt.

 

BB

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:14:46 PM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote:

Yup!
Anyone?

-J

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rock n Roads

[Montclair BobbyB]

How are these WTBs on road, though?  They look like they would act 
knobbish...
FWIW these remind me of the Kenda K-rad tire, a great choice for 26 inch 
tires... especially if you're riding mostly dirt.

BB

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>
> Yup!
> Anyone?
>
> -J
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[Joe Bunik]

Heretical tangent perhaps, but I wonder how these will fair in the 650b game:
http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2013/02/skinwall-tires.html
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 2/14/13, Leslie  wrote:
> I so wish there was a 650b version of this tire
>
>
> -L
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:28:58 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote:
>>
>> Morning Scot,
>> I'm not sure with all the different models of Rivendell frames.
>> You can find all the tires specs and clearances necessary on our older
>> blog
>> post -
>> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/2012/04/rock-n-road-tire-is-offically-
>>
>>
>> for-sale.html
>>
>> Any questions about the tires please give me a call - (707) 762-5601
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bruce Gordon
>> www.bgcycles.com
>> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Scot
>> Brooks
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:38 AM
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads
>>
>> This has probably been talked to death, but these can fit on a Sam with no
>>
>> fenders, right? Might be the holy grail summer tire for me.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[RJM]

This could be a good thread idea"What's your favorite stayph bike?"
 
I like Mark's bikes, especially the custom, but I have to say my favorite 
is Brian's Hunqapillar and second would be Jenny's Hilsen. I just really 
like that small frame, double top tube combined with the color of the 
frame. Great bikes. 
 

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:38:54 AM UTC-6, pb wrote:

>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:18:48 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: 
>>
>>  But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?
>> jim m
>> wc ca
>>
>  
>  
> Nominated for line of the month, maybe the year.
>  
> I'm amused that Mark's bikes are so admired, and yet so  um...  
> conventional?  traditional?  un-rivvish? in their set-ups.  Gosh, they look 
> like bikes I might have sized and built.
>  
> ;-)
>  
> pb   
> (likes frames that are proportionate to the rider, and eschews Nitto 
> Talluxes) 
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[Scot Brooks]

Well, the reviews seem so positive that I'll just have to treat myself to a set 
next payday. Worst case scenario, I put 'em on the Soma Double Cross instead. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO cheap 12t (preferred) or 13 t fixed cog

[PATRICK MOORE]

Ely -- how much? It's still a bit low but if the price is right I can put
up with it (57").

One of my projects is to convert that very nice little front rack bag you
made for me into a small rear trunk bag (I've given up on front racks for
now). I think an internal stiffener (cut from an old detergent bottle) and
additional Velcro on the bottom will work. It is sized just right to carry
the rather bulky repair kit for the Fargo (including 4 tubes) -- and
matches my Ortliebs!

Thanks!

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Ely Rodriguez  wrote:

> No 13, but I have a 14t 1/8" dura ace. Just drop me an email.
> Hope you're next project is going well.
> -Ely
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:29:42 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Width, color, condition no matter (as long as it is useable). Would
>> prefer to trade but can pay. For problematical folding bike project that is
>> probably not worth pursuing.
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[William]

+1

I'm so into this tire, I'm considering buying another 700c bike just to run 
them.  

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:38:47 AM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
>
> I so wish there was a 650b version of this tire
>
>
> -L
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:28:58 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote:
>>
>> Morning Scot, 
>> I'm not sure with all the different models of Rivendell frames. 
>> You can find all the tires specs and clearances necessary on our older 
>> blog 
>> post - 
>> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/2012/04/rock-n-road-tire-is-offically- 
>>
>> for-sale.html
>>  
>> Any questions about the tires please give me a call - (707) 762-5601 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Bruce Gordon 
>> www.bgcycles.com 
>> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ 
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scot Brooks 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:38 AM 
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads 
>>
>> This has probably been talked to death, but these can fit on a Sam with 
>> no 
>> fenders, right? Might be the holy grail summer tire for me. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[pb]

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:18:48 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?
> jim m
> wc ca
>
 
 
Nominated for line of the month, maybe the year.
 
I'm amused that Mark's bikes are so admired, and yet so  um...  
conventional?  traditional?  un-rivvish? in their set-ups.  Gosh, they look 
like bikes I might have sized and built.
 
;-)
 
pb   
(likes frames that are proportionate to the rider, and eschews Nitto 
Talluxes) 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[Leslie]

I so wish there was a 650b version of this tire


-L




On Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:28:58 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote:
>
> Morning Scot, 
> I'm not sure with all the different models of Rivendell frames. 
> You can find all the tires specs and clearances necessary on our older 
> blog 
> post - 
> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/2012/04/rock-n-road-tire-is-offically- 
>
> for-sale.html
>  
> Any questions about the tires please give me a call - (707) 762-5601 
>
> Regards, 
> Bruce Gordon 
> www.bgcycles.com 
> http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ 
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Scot 
> Brooks 
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:38 AM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads 
>
> This has probably been talked to death, but these can fit on a Sam with no 
> fenders, right? Might be the holy grail summer tire for me. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Christopher Murray]

And the burrito wrap seems to come loose and get dropped- maybe just for me? 
Much higher risk to get lost. I keep just the essentials and tie it up with 
hemp twine and then use the strap through the twine. It takes a few extra 
minutes to open but is much more secure, gives me some twine if I need it, and 
what's not to like about twine! Alas no shellac. 

Cheers! 
cm

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RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[Bruce Gordon]

Morning Scot,
I'm not sure with all the different models of Rivendell frames.
You can find all the tires specs and clearances necessary on our older blog
post -
http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/2012/04/rock-n-road-tire-is-offically-
for-sale.html
Any questions about the tires please give me a call - (707) 762-5601

Regards,
Bruce Gordon
www.bgcycles.com 
http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ 



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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

This has probably been talked to death, but these can fit on a Sam with no
fenders, right? Might be the holy grail summer tire for me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Anne Paulson]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Liesl  wrote:
> René, this is double Bumming me out because of the
> south-bay-giving-anne-a-ride factor!

I'm going to figure out some way of getting there, though, because I
am a warrior.  If the ride starts mid-afternoon, I can cross over the
Bay by riding the Dumbarton bridge to the Fremont BART and go from
there.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Jim Mather]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

>
> Mark's bikes are a pretty much the holy trinity in my book...
>
>
But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Cyclofiend Jim]

And... yeah.  

Mark's bikes are a pretty much the holy trinity in my book...

- J

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I would actually recommend against stashing a cellphone into the burrito 
wrap - you'd be amazed how much vibration does come up through the frame 
for anyone who tends to vector off onto trails and non-paved routes.  I've 
come home with all the screws rattled out of my reading glasses several 
times.  

Electronic gear and vibration is generally not a good combination.  Camera 
in the pocket seems to work best for me. 

- J

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:28:41 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> No kidding. Mark might have another grey bike, too. The 'cross bike is a 
> Top Three bike for me. Perfect.
> You know what looks great? The burrito wrap. I believe I will heist that 
> for my bikes. I've never used one, but I do have a set of tools and such 
> for each bike, including a pump, a blinky, and an inhaler. 
> A burrito wrap with a blinky strap and a cellphone pocket... Hmmm.
>
> Philip 
> www.biketinker.com
>

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[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Great to hear that you ran down the issue!  That is what _success_ sounds 
like in bike mechanictry...

- J

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[David Strong]

Just stumbled upon the ACW pins and I fell in love. What are the chances 
these could be re-upped. Pins or, even better, patches. I would really be 
happy to get one of these. Is anybody here the original producer of these 
goodies?? Let me know. Cheers, David S

On Friday, May 15, 2009 7:08:31 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:
>
> Are you a member? 
>
> So here is the story...turning the "way-back" machine to about 1996, 
> some friends and I were sitting over coffee after a ride and started 
> to recount how many times we had done this. As it turned out, it was 
> apparent that not only had the vast majority of our rides (bike, 
> motorcycle, skateboard, snowboard...) started or ended over coffee, 
> but many of our good friends and riding partners were met at the cafes 
> we were frequenting. We had a pretty good network that spanned darn 
> near coast to coast. An "Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen" I 
> blurted out while simultaneously sketching out a logo on the 
> napkin 
>
> Fast forward to about 6 months ago, I was digging through some piles 
> of artwork looking for something, and stumbled on my original sketch. 
> All of the patches and hats we had originally done up were long 
> retired, lost, or given away...so I got in touch with some of the 
> original ACW's and told them I was going to mint some lapel 
> pins...everyone chipped in to beat the minimums. 
>
> Our whole thing was very tongue in cheek, but we wanted it to have an 
> "old money-secret society-unleash the hounds" type of feel to it. 
> Anyway after finding the iBob's / ROB's and meeting so many awesome 
> people and reading about the network that exists between the riders, I 
> thought it would be cool to expand the ACW. 
>
> It's all for fun and conversation, and really just a bit of decoration 
> for the bags, hats etc...but wanted to offer them up. I have @ 20-30 
> or so left of the lapel pins, but we can do more if interest is there. 
> We were also contemplating doing up some patches too? 
>
> $6/pc shipped to you. Trades for your "club" pins is good too. For 
> that matter no interesting trade would be turned down. Drop me line 
> hbc...@yahoo.com  or just paypal me there with your info! 
>
> Stay thirsty my friendsfor coffee. ;) 
>
> http://tinyurl.com/rx66y8

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[RBW] Re: Luxos B dynamo light user review

[Peter White]

Putting the top of the beam 30 feet in front is viable if you're riding 
slowly and using an older halogen headlight. But the newer lights, in 
particular the latest Luxos headlights from Busch & Müller are far 
brighter, and have very wide beams. So you can aim them higher and still 
have plenty of light both close to the bike and at a distance.

See the photos of the beams I've posted here.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp

Peter Jon White
Peter White Cycles

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:44:42 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>
> A couple of notes on the installation of the Luxos B dynamo light: 
>


 

> The light output is quite ingenious--I think.  The way you align the 
> light is to have the light hit the ground about 30 feet in front of 
> you. What this does is put a big hotspot on the ground a little over a 
> lane wide in front of you. This gives you clear vision of any 
> obstacles in front of you, but there is still decent light within the 
> U which spreads out from the bike to the hotspot. In addition the 
> width of the light much wider than the Cyo--most of the 2 lane road. 
> Don't throw the hotspot into the horizon, put it on the ground--it 
> will improve the ride visibility immensely and you won't blind the 
> traffic. 
>

 

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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Nate Cavalieri]

Hi Guys - 

If you're alright with a newbie coming along, I'd love to join this 
adventure and promise to adhere to the TBD RCW Credo. 
I'll keep an eye on this thread but would be happy with any of the 
suggestions laid out below. 
Exciting! 
Nate



On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:17:29 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a 
> couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So 
> it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  
>
> Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
> And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
> boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
> to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
> camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
> a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
> rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
> ride in snow. 
>
> Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in 
> the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).
>
> Can't wait, Liesl
>

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[RBW] Re: Water Gap Adventure Loop - April 13-14

[Joe S]

Bobby, this is a great ride.Unfortunately I plan to be in Florida on 
those dates.  I've been through there twice; camping in Worthington State 
Forest where my wife and I spotted a bear meandering along the ridge line 
up behind our campsite when we did a 3-day last summer.  It definitely is 
remote for its proximity to the urban areas of the northeast.  I rode my 
Atlantis and my wife her Betty Ford.  We started out from the Myers Country 
Motel and did a circle back to pick up our car.  This is a family-run 
business and they were very nice and accommodating, allowing us to leave 
our car and pick it up when we came back.  It rained hard the whole first 
day but after that was nice.

I think your assessment is on the mark - one long hill climb (had trouble 
both times following my maps nearby (on the Milford side).  We rode the 
Paulinskill Valley Trail last year.  That was the first time for me.  It 
definitely is single track in places.  It was difficult to find the point 
at which we joined the trail and if it hadn't been for a kind-hearted local 
rider we would have been on a local road (summer traffic, but good 
shoulder/lane) most of the way up to Swartswood State Park where we spent a 
night.  There were a number of equestrian parties on the Paulinskill Trail 
and it was muddy as a result of the rain.  Not sure how that will be in 
"mud season" as we used to refer to it in Vermont, but watch out for the 
horse manure.  My wife, who had not done any mountain biking, did well on 
it with a moderately-loaded Betty Foy, but if it has been rainy or a lot of 
late snow, you might want to reconsider the route.

All in all, a wonderful area.  As you say, lots of places to enjoy in 
Milford.  All the best and I'm looking forward to the photos!

Joe

On Friday, February 8, 2013 11:17:27 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Attention Adventure Riders:
>
> I am planning a 2-day "adventure" ride from the Delaware Water Gap (on the 
> NJ/PA border) up to Milford, PA, then back to the Gap the following day. 
>  The element of "adventure" is due to the varied terrain we will encounter, 
> along with any last-minute or on-the-fly route changes (that could be 
> required due to several uncontrollable factors)... The only requirement: be 
> flexible, be adventurous, have fun...
>
> Note: This ride is NOT RIV RALLY EAST; this is IN ADDITION TO Riv Rally 
> East (which is tentatively scheduled for early May in Virginia, stay tuned.)
>
> Here are details about the Gap Adventure Loop:
>
> *Route Summary (total approx 90 miles over 2 days), this will require an 
> overnight stay in a B&B/Motel/Cottage in Milford PA; in other words, this 
> is a light tour; you will need to carry enough gear for the 2-day ride:*
>
> The Delaware Water Gap was formed billions of years ago (OK, maybe only 
> millions) by ancient glaciers.  Today it is an impressive natural landmark 
> (yes, Jersey has them) where the Delaware River cuts through the Kittatinny 
> Mountain range in Western NJ, just East of Stroudsburg, PA.  Our Day1 route 
> takes us up the Delware River along Old Mine Road, perhaps the oldest road 
> in the US (once used by Dutch settlers as a mining route, hence the name). 
> The rolling terrain consists of a mixture of paved and dirt roads, passing 
> through National Recreation and State Forest areas... It's suprisingly 
> remote for NJ.  We will spend the night in quaint, historic Milford, PA, 
> just North of Dingman's Ferry over on the PA side.  There are several 
> lodging options in Milford, and plenty of places to eat (See below links).
>
> The Day 2 route is a bit more varied.  After crossing back into NJ we 
> start off with a fairly strenous hill climb up into Stokes State Forest, 
> where we will traverse the heart of this rugged, beautiful forested 
> preserve on paved, jeep and single track trail.  There may be a few 
> dismount/portage spots (i.e. stream crossings, rock gardens, rooty 
> sections), but these are relatively minor.  The route emerges from Stokes 
> Forest, continuing over back roads down to the Paulinskil Trail, which is a 
> dirt and gravel rail-trail (popular with the equestrian community) that 
> runs North-South down the Paulinskil Valley on the East side of the 
> Kittatinny Ridge (note: we ride North on the West side of the Ridge on Day 
> 1).  The Paulinskil Trail ends just 1/2 mile up the road from our starting 
> point, near the Water Gap. 
>
> The terrain on Day 1 is rolling, with no major climbs.
> The terrain on Day 2 includes a pretty challenging climb early on, and a 
> few moderate uphills in the heart of Stokes, followed by a decent downhill 
> and a few rollers to get to the Paulinskil, which is a flat, but mixed 
> dirt/gravel surface that requires some pretty serious pedaling.
>
> *Lodging Sat Night (in Milford, PA):*  You will be responsible for 
> arranging your own lodging.  Last time I slept at the Myers Country Motel 
> (which is actually a collection of basic, but

[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Christopher Wiggins]

This is the greatest thread I've seen on this board.  Just sayin.


>

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[RBW] Re: S240- Mt.Ham - 18th - 19th.

[Ely Rodriguez]

Dang, this is the ride i want to do with you manny, but we'll be in 
pinnacles camping out.
have fun. 
if possible, will there be another date in march?

On Monday, February 11, 2013 8:41:15 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Down pour cancels. Meeting at Fremont Bart around 930ish.
> Parking on Guardino is good and safe if you planning on driving. 
>
> First day
> Fremont Bart to Joseph D Grant Ranch. 50ish miles
> http://goo.gl/maps/Cixf4
>
> Food stop along the way before heading over the last hill to Grant Ranch.
>
> Second day.
> Joseph D Grant Ranch back to DUBLIN Bart 60ish miles
> http://goo.gl/maps/9GpCF
>
> Theres vending machines at the top of Ham and some type of 7-11 on the 
> other side of Ham.
>
> There will be pictures and a sharing of food. Expect to get lost, but to 
> have a good time. 
>
> -Manny
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO cheap 12t (preferred) or 13 t fixed cog

[Ely Rodriguez]

No 13, but I have a 14t 1/8" dura ace. Just drop me an email.
Hope you're next project is going well.
-Ely

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:29:42 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Width, color, condition no matter (as long as it is useable). Would prefer 
> to trade but can pay. For problematical folding bike project that is 
> probably not worth pursuing.
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[RBW] Re: Meet new people.

[Ely Rodriguez]

First of all, I know I bullshit a lot, but when it comes to hotdogs, its 
all business.
Second, Nathans picture doesn't come close to capturing the full fury of 
the mountain, it was an awesome recovery, Manny should be called the bike 
Ninja. The grass and plants impaled in his right brake lever was awesome. 
Did anyone get a picture of that?
Rider of the day award should go to Amanda, who rode that dirt on 700x23's 
and survived. THEN called everybody out when we had enough climbing and 
wanted to go home by saying "cool, so lets finish this shit and get our 
sorry butts to the top of Tam." or something like that.




On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:18:39 AM UTC-8, brianweee wrote:
>
> Manny! Glad that you made it out from the East Bay! It was indeed fun. As 
> for the Spam Masubi idea, I have to give some credit to Alice Stribling who 
> commented on my instagram to bring Spam Masubi on a bike ride: 
> http://instagram.com/p/VPrpWTvwtl/
>
> Any case, I'm glad we made it to the top with hot dogs and all. 
>
> As for Manny tumbling, Nathan managed to grab a sweet pic: 
> http://instagram.com/p/ViAfvzt-M-/ It really was a great moment. Carlin 
> was mimicking some slide guitar noises in the background (as it felt like 
> we were watching a Riv video) as Manny was bombing down that single track 
> and went into the most graceful tumble!  
>
> Can't wait for you to host your East Bay adventure. Where & when will you 
> be taking us?
>
>
> -Brian 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:02:10 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> As much of an individual exercise activity it is it's always better with 
>> others.
>> Luckily every once in a while you get to meet like minded people wanting 
>> go out and ride.
>> Got invited to a ride up railroad grade on a mix terrain ride. 
>> Some highlights:
>> - Confusing a handful of cyclists on the bridge into thinking that we 
>> were the ride they were wanting for.
>> - Finding out that there's a biking repair box near the top of Mt.Tam. 
>> - Having ride leader Brian Oei be the best ride leader by providing spam 
>> musubi!
>> - Being forced ride to the top because no one believe that there was Hot 
>> dogs at the top.
>> - "Practicing" my tumbling skills on some dirt downhill for the group.
>> - Remembering the eating and socializing more then the ride itself.
>>
>> Pictures proved that sometimes the ride is better with more:
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDXaKVQ
>>
>> - Manny "I love Spam Musubi" Acosta 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Dates to put on the calendar

[tgoodmann]

That's some of the most beautiful country anywhere in the U.S, spilling 
over into Iowa and Wisconsin.  Will watch for updates.


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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Liesl]

René, this is double Bumming me out because of the 
south-bay-giving-anne-a-ride factor!  What time does your flight arrive?  
Argues for a short ride perhaps departing in the afternoon...does this 
help?  I feel a bit bad trying to semi-organize something based on my 
schedule from far away...but I think we can make it work if it's a modest 
attempt; short ride sat afternoon, relaxed Sunday...I'll be staying with an 
old friend in Walnut Creek Friday night and will have a rental car.  I was 
also somewhat hoping that if I were to hang at Riv on saurday and that be a 
launch point, that I might be able to meet more locals from the listserv 
who might just stop by even without going on the s24o.

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RE: [RBW] WTB: Rock n Roads

[Scot Brooks]

This has probably been talked to death, but these can fit on a Sam with no 
fenders, right? Might be the holy grail summer tire for me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

[PATRICK MOORE]

Ah HA! Thought so! I remember how, on Riv #1, I installed the lower race
bearing surface (steel "running surface" for the bottom bearings in the
aluminum cup) somehow upside down. I could not get the danged headset
adjusted properly: either it bound or it was loose -- and damned
frustrating.

I had to snug them up once or twice early in my ownership, but the Tange
Rollerball and Ultegra hs on the two later Rivs have kept their adjustment
for thousands of miles.

I must say however that overall I much prefer the threadless system --
once, that is, you have your bar position more or less dialed in.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Tim Tetrault  wrote:

> Closure: It WAS the dang headset. ::embarrassed::
>
> I'm still getting used to a threaded setup.
>
> On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:36 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote:
>>
>> Anybody have experience clearing up this forward rocking I have with my
>> long reach Tektros that are in the standard build for the Sam Hilborne?
>> When I brake sharply (or even if I don't and I'm just carrying weight I
>> experience this slight, singular vibration that I can feel in the
>> handlebar... the brakes are rocking forward a bit, and it is very
>> disconcerting. I took it to a mechanic I work with and he basically said
>> that it was something that happened with long reach brakes, v-brakes,
>> anything with a long arm design. I feel skeptical.
>>
>> Thanks for your help- let me know if posting a pic of my current set up
>> would help- I gotta believe they can function better than this.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Inch equivalent of 650b?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'd be interested to hear how the Marathon Green Guards ward off goatheads.
I know that a combination of extra thick "thorn proof" tubes, a belted
tire, and a thick Mr Tuffy strip can make a tire well-nigh immune, but at
the cost of any riding pleasure. I wonder if the MGGs roll decently yet
remain impervious?

Out here in ABQ, NM, local riders tell me that Stan's has "solved" the
goathead problem, even for tubular tires -- the downside is that it dries
out so that you eventually build up little 2 oz clumps of dried sealant in
your tire, how much depending on how long before you wear it out. I am
waiting for a discount bulk bottle to try in my tubs and also in my Big
Apple tubes. (I know that Stan's was developed for tubeless off road tires.)

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Wow thanks for the responses.
>
>
>  Mike I want the Schwalbe's to thwart the goat heads when I go with you
> fellows on mixed terrain rides. I plan on using the hetres for most of my
> riding, tour, commute, ect…I also plan on having another wheel set built by
> Rich in the distant future, wife has needs tooJ
>
> ** **
>
> I would purchase the Schwalbe’s today if Riv had them, talked to them
> today and they won’t have any till mid March! Ironically, when I was having
> the bike built it was spec’d with the Marathons and I instead supplied the
> Hetres, oh the humanity. I asked Mark and he confirmed my suspicion that
> they have a limited number of the Marathon 650b’ reserved for builds. So
> I’ve been looking elsewhere.
>
> ** **
>
> The Sheldon Brown site which I posted an excerpt from states that the 26 x
> 1 ½ is equivalent to a 650b which is 584mm. I realize that you can’t use a
> decimal equivalent in place of a fractional. I have yet to find anyone on
> the web selling this size. So I am now entrenched in the 650b world and all
> it peculiarities.
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Hugh
>
> Sunland, Ca
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:55:53 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> Hugh, that is the equivalent size to ERTO 584mm.  The Schwalbe's are very
>> durable but most feel they ride very "dead"  compared to the Hetres you've
>> been riding. Perhaps a better tire is the Soma B-line. Unless you want the
>> reflective stripe of the Schwalbe's.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:49:09 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey new to the 650b size. Went to SB web site and found this sizing
>>> equivalent for the french utility size.
>>>
>>> 26 x 1 1/2 (650B)584 mmFrench  utility,
>>> tandem and loaded-touring bikes,
>>> a very few Raleigh (U.S.) & Schwinn mountain bikes.
>>> So if I purchased a Schwalbe Marathon wire GreenGuard HS420 in 26x1 1/2
>>>  it should work right? Just want to be sure before I pull the trigger.
>>> Thanks in advance for holding my hand :)
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Sunland, Ca
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Inch equivalent of 650b?

[C.J. Filip]

That and they (Hetres) fit PERFECTLY under SKS p50 fenders on Riv 650b
bikes.

On Feb 13, 7:52 pm, Michael  wrote:
> > The only downside to 650b is the lack of choices for wheels and tires and
> But if the Hetres prove to be puncture resistant enough I might just stay
> with them. They are supposed to be one of the fastest 650b tires around,
> too.

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[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Don't be embarrassed. It happened to me frequently with an Ultegra headset I 
had on my Atlantis. I had to snug it up every couple months. 

More recently, I experienced a similar thing on a different bike, and checked 
the usual suspects: brakes, headset, cracks in the frame/fork, etc. Nothing. 
Over time I noticed that my bar angle was pitching slightly forward. Applying 
considerable forward rotational force showed that the bar clamp on the stem 
wasn't as tight as it could be. I greased the bolt(s) and retightened, which 
fixed it. I later figured out that hard braking was causing the bar to rotate 
forward, but pulling back on the bar to ease over a particular railroad track 
was having the opposite affect. My one-way commute had the one railroad to hop 
over, followed by a fairly hard stop. The effect was self-canceling such that I 
didn't notice for quite awhile that the bar was slipping, aside from the sense 
that there was a small singular movement when I hit the brakes hard.

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Philip Williamson]

No kidding. Mark might have another grey bike, too. The 'cross bike is a Top 
Three bike for me. Perfect.
You know what looks great? The burrito wrap. I believe I will heist that for my 
bikes. I've never used one, but I do have a set of tools and such for each 
bike, including a pump, a blinky, and an inhaler. 
A burrito wrap with a blinky strap and a cellphone pocket... Hmmm.

Philip 
www.biketinker.com

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