[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
My 4-year old and I often go on little bike excursions... often to a nearby 
MUP with some fun dirt side paths. Usually I'm behind the camera but on 
this day he asked if he could take the pics. I love how this one is framed 
and tilted just so... no editing required.  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8174249858/
--Smitty



On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.


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[RBW] Re: Wasco County Country Bike Ramble - April 6 - Eastern OR

2013-03-29 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Bump... 
RSVP is NOT required. In spite of that, I've heard from a handful of people 
off list. It sounds like there'll be at least 5 of us and maybe up to 10 if 
those on the fence make it. Should be a good day riding through the 
countryside. 
--Smitty

  

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:18:11 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 The Wasco County Country Bike Ramble is happening on Saturday, April 6th.  


 The mapped route http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2251278 is a 60-mile 
 loop out of Maupin, OR with 4100ft of climbing. There'll be some 
 agricultural land, a stretch along the Deschutes River, and many miles on 
 quiet roads through open forest. Many of these miles are new to us (Leaf 
 Slayer Mike helped me with the route), so be prepared to stop for frequent 
 map consultations and to take it all in.  This route is largely off the 
 beaten path… come prepared accordingly (food, spare tube, layers, etc). The 
 plan is to stay together as a group. 


 Meet/Park at 

 Maupin City Park in Maupin, OR 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles

 at 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles

 9am 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles

 on 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles

 Saturday April 
 6https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles


 Maupin City Park does allow overnight camping and there are primitive BLM 
 campsites along the Deschutes River. I'm only available for the day, so a 
 one-day event is what I'm organizing. It would be great to meet other list 
 members from around the Northwest, but you're on your own for overnight 
 accommodations.  


 Riding a Rivendell is encouraged but all manner of country bikes are 
 welcome. 


 --Smitty


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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! The nerve! I pray your issues resolve and you have many more miles in 
the saddle, however upright.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:04:49 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Friends, today I found out that my neck officially has some vertebral 
 problems, and I think I'm gonna need to swap out my mustache bars on a few 
 bikes (argh!) so I can have a more upright position. I have an old mountain 
 bike that has Alba's on it.  That's my fisrt project:  steal them and 
 install them on the protobleriot.  BUT the alba bars (all nicely taped and 
 shellacked, etc) are on a threadless mountain bike stem.  I could easily 
 take the front plate off the the stem and move it oh-so-easy but I need a 
 threaded stem with a face plate (I hope I am using the right terms here so 
 that I am explaining clearly...).  I found a cheap ugly Nashbar

 http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_174788_-1___

 Is there another more elegant quill solution that has a front plate on it?

 Or should I just bite it and disassemble and unwind the tape and get out 
 the goo-gone and...and...and...do the whole mess?

 I wait with bated breath for your collective wisdom!

 your friend,
 Liesl


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Re: [RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems

2013-03-29 Thread Eric Platt
Shoji and Jeremy are correct, the V brake lever won't work with cantilevers
unless it has the adapter built in.  Unfortunately, the set of Soma Oxfords
I have sitting around have Tektro V brake levers or I'd off them to you to
try.  Let me know if the other swap is too much of a hassle.  Am pretty
sure I have some cantilever brake levers sitting around and would be happy
to let you use them and the handlebar to try things out for a while.

And like others, sorry to hear about your current issues.  I've got some
low back pain trouble now, so I can be extra sympathetic.

Eric Platt
(Who is about to commute in today on the new Sam Hillborne nonetheless)
St. Paul, MN


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Och! The nerve! I pray your issues resolve and you have many more miles in
 the saddle, however upright.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:04:49 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Friends, today I found out that my neck officially has some vertebral
 problems, and I think I'm gonna need to swap out my mustache bars on a few
 bikes (argh!) so I can have a more upright position. I have an old mountain
 bike that has Alba's on it.  That's my fisrt project:  steal them and
 install them on the protobleriot.  BUT the alba bars (all nicely taped and
 shellacked, etc) are on a threadless mountain bike stem.  I could easily
 take the front plate off the the stem and move it oh-so-easy but I need a
 threaded stem with a face plate (I hope I am using the right terms here so
 that I am explaining clearly...).  I found a cheap ugly Nashbar

 http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/**Product_10053_10052_174788_-1_**__http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_174788_-1___

 Is there another more elegant quill solution that has a front plate on it?

 Or should I just bite it and disassemble and unwind the tape and get out
 the goo-gone and...and...and...do the whole mess?

 I wait with bated breath for your collective wisdom!

 your friend,
 Liesl

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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread Pondero
Hey John,

North Texas Riv owner reporting in.  All's well up in northwest Denton 
County...

http://pawndero.wordpress.com/

Come up and do some rural rides with me.

Chris
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Frederick
Curiously, I don't have any pics of myself on any of my Rivendells.  Though
I was wearing a woolywarm jersey and MUSA shorts in this pic (a pic that
effectively demonstrates the term there's no fool like and old fool, I
think)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/6407437619/in/photostream/lightbox/

And me on my Riv-precursor, a Bridgestone XO-1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5246844662/in/photostream/lightbox/

Steve Cheese Frederick, East Lansing, MI


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.

 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.

 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new
 Hillborne.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
So sorry about your problems, Liesl, but all miles are good miles - even those 
upright ones!

As for the stem issue, this combo - quill adapter, and threadless stem piece -- 
from VO  is, IMO, quite attractive - though more expensive than the Nashbar:  
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/quill-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html
 .  I think there are similar less expensive combos.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Platt
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 6:55 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Swapping Bars  Threaded Stems

Shoji and Jeremy are correct, the V brake lever won't work with cantilevers 
unless it has the adapter built in.  Unfortunately, the set of Soma Oxfords I 
have sitting around have Tektro V brake levers or I'd off them to you to try.  
Let me know if the other swap is too much of a hassle.  Am pretty sure I have 
some cantilever brake levers sitting around and would be happy to let you use 
them and the handlebar to try things out for a while.

And like others, sorry to hear about your current issues.  I've got some low 
back pain trouble now, so I can be extra sympathetic.

Eric Platt
(Who is about to commute in today on the new Sam Hillborne nonetheless)
St. Paul, MN

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Deacon Patrick 
lamontg...@mac.commailto:lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Och! The nerve! I pray your issues resolve and you have many more miles in the 
saddle, however upright.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:04:49 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:
Friends, today I found out that my neck officially has some vertebral problems, 
and I think I'm gonna need to swap out my mustache bars on a few bikes (argh!) 
so I can have a more upright position. I have an old mountain bike that has 
Alba's on it.  That's my fisrt project:  steal them and install them on the 
protobleriot.  BUT the alba bars (all nicely taped and shellacked, etc) are on 
a threadless mountain bike stem.  I could easily take the front plate off the 
the stem and move it oh-so-easy but I need a threaded stem with a face plate (I 
hope I am using the right terms here so that I am explaining clearly...).  I 
found a cheap ugly Nashbar

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_174788_-1___

Is there another more elegant quill solution that has a front plate on it?

Or should I just bite it and disassemble and unwind the tape and get out the 
goo-gone and...and...and...do the whole mess?

I wait with bated breath for your collective wisdom!

your friend,
Liesl
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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread jinxed
Here a set from a trip to Fruita Colorado on 
2010http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157623986842368/show/. 
Lots of self piloted A.H.H. action content along with my buddy and his 
custom Funk Titanium all rounder.

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:41:47 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.


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RE: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
What a great picture!  Kid's got talent

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Smitty Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:51 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

My 4-year old and I often go on little bike excursions... often to a nearby MUP 
with some fun dirt side paths. Usually I'm behind the camera but on this day he 
asked if he could take the pics. I love how this one is framed and tilted just 
so... no editing required.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8174249858/
--Smitty



On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.

Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.

I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
Hillborne.
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[RBW] Will a Hilsen fit the Rock N Road Tires?

2013-03-29 Thread Dennis Hogan
My AHH fit the RR's without fenders. The ride was amazing on road and gravel. 
Unfortunately, I 
am in Portland and could not fit fenders with them. They were sold to a list 
member. I am currently running Continental Cyclecross 42 that Riv stocked at 
one time and they work with SLS Urban Cross 65 fenders

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-29 Thread David Hays
Thanks Joe.
With the bend noted, this just confirms what others have old me. Ditch the bar 
or hang it on the garage wall.
Four dollars to the bike coop. A good cause.
With its stamping saying GB and British Made I'd assume it's a Gerry Burgess 
that probably was salvaged off a Schwinn.
I'm still waiting for my GB Randonneur to arrive from a group lister to put my 
Homer together.
David Hays
Kenmore, New York

On Mar 27, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rene (and David, all),
 
 Are you talking the English (Gerry Burgess) or Japanese (Grand Bois) GB bar?
 
 I've long been fond of the former (have never tried the later). I also
 found that the Nitto != UK GB rando, in fact they are very different -
 the hoods land far more forward on the Nitto, as well as much greater
 flare on the GB.
 
 GB supplied the bars spec'd on many '70s Schwinns - if you see a rando
 bar'd Schwinn, 99% for certain they will be GBs- I've salvaged
 otherwise useless trash day finds just for these bars. One caveat is
 that they are easily bent (often found this way, I even had a 0-mph
 garage-fall-over ruin an otherwise perfect pair). So... I am hesitant
 to suggest you re-shape yours.
 
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA
 
 On 3/27/13, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 The shape and curves of the GB Randonneur bar have made it the only drop
 bar that I can ride with virtually no pain in my hands. I can't say that of
 the Noodle or both Nitto Randonneur bars (the narrower and the wider one).
 It's very comfortable both on the tops straight section, curved section and
 straight section going to the hoods, which is the position I find myself
 using most often. I've discovered that its narrowness on the tops also
 makes it very comfortable, and have some sort of theory backed by purely
 empirical evidence I've gathered by doing online research, that the wider
 bars, which are presumably better to open the chest, compress the shoulder
 blades and back, whereas the narrower ones don't do this on the shoulders.
 Since I have no problems breathing, elbows can ge articulated and I have
 many issues with shoulder and neck pain when riding, I noted right away
 that after I got used to the narrowness of the bar, I wasn't having the
 expected shoulder, neck or hand pain I used to always get with the drop
 bars.
 
 I also read somewhere in Jan's blog or magazine that narrower drop bars
 work better with low trail forks whereas wider bars are better for higher
 trail geometries. In my very early days with my Hilsen, I tried the
 narrower Nitto Randonneur bar and found it uncomfortable and didn't like
 how it made the Hilsenhandle, so I went back to the 48 Noodles, which I
 still have on that bike. The Atlantis, where the current GB Randonneur
 resides, handles very nicely with the narrow bars but it has a low trail
 fork. My next step is to install the bars on the Hilsen to see how they
 feel on the standard geometry, and if they not only handle equally well,
 but also remove all the pain and issues that I have when riding the Hilsen
 with the 48 Noodles.
 
 René
 
 René
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:12 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I saw last night that there is a new Soma randonneur bar too.
 
 Ryan
 
 
 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22:43 AM UTC-7, René wrote:
 
 If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is
 more
 confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by
 the
 way, is also made by Nitto.
 
 *http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843*
 
 René
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a
 photo. Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar.
 
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.
 
 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
 
 While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to
 arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I
 stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**7**1834221@N00/8591612115/in/**phot**
 ostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream
 
 It’s labelled GB and British Made.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**7**1834221@N00/8592703534/in/**set-**
 72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**7**1834221@N00/8592699168/in/**set-**
 72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433
 
 When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate
 bend at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**7**1834221@N00/8592696840/in/**set-**
 72157633092067433/**lightbox/http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/
 
 Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put
 a
 pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. 

[RBW] Feeler trade, bay area locals - My Hunqapillar 54cm for your Atlantis 58cm (FF only)

2013-03-29 Thread Pierre
Hi there,

I always coveted an Atlantis, and fact is, I never use(d) my Hunq on the 
trails. Wife says the herd cannot expand any further, so looking to trade.


I have a Hunqapillar 54cm FF - waterford made, 2011, excellent condition, 
tiny decal issue on downtube.

You have a Atlantis 58cm FF, in the bay area - preferably with mid-fork 
eyelets.


If you feel this is an unfair trade, I can always throw some spare parts.

Interested? Drop me a note off list.

Pierre

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[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread samh
However, she's always busy working so she never really had time to ride 
the bike except a few times.

I would ride that bike in the dark at 11pm holding a candle in each hand 
for light.  I don't think I could ever be too tired to mount that red 
chariot.  I'm sorry to hear about your wife's health problems.   Welcome to 
rbw!

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:57:16 PM UTC-6, Ed S wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and 
 then. I feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers 
 helpful information and entertaining at times :)
 Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post.
 I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I 
 mentioned it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to 
 this group first.
 I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built 
 it) years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had 
 time to ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with 
 a  medical condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This 
 bike has a mileage of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential 
 streets). That's less than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage, 
 indoors or covered with a plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern 
 Cal. weather).
 Specs are:

 50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/ 
 Crank Sugino XD2 170  46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/ 
 Cassette Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross 
 Aluminum handlebars 54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/ 
 Brakes Dia-Compre Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto 
 Crystal Fellow 27.2  250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67 
 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire 
 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have 
 been replaced yet.

 Photos below:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/

 If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00. 
 Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 Ed Serrano




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[RBW] Re: Long Shen trip

2013-03-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yes indeed.  

And I posted it on my tumblr feed, but interview with the Long Shen owners 
was in Rivendell Reader #25 - the “Life Before Leafblowers” edition. 2002. 
It had three lugs on the cover and also had an interview with the 
much-missed Sheldon Brown. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread cyclotourist
 perfect!


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:49 PM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote:

 However, she's always busy working so she never really had time to ride
 the bike except a few times.

 I would ride that bike in the dark at 11pm holding a candle in each hand
 for light.  I don't think I could ever be too tired to mount that red
 chariot.  I'm sorry to hear about your wife's health problems.   Welcome to
 rbw!

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:57:16 PM UTC-6, Ed S wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and
 then. I feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers
 helpful information and entertaining at times :)
 Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post.
 I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I
 mentioned it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to
 this group first.
 I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built
 it) years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had
 time to ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with
 a  medical condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This
 bike has a mileage of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential
 streets). That's less than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage,
 indoors or covered with a plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern
 Cal. weather).
 Specs are:

 50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/
 Crank Sugino XD2 170  46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/
 Cassette Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross
 Aluminum handlebars 54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/
 Brakes Dia-Compre Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto
 Crystal Fellow 27.2  250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67
 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire
 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have
 been replaced yet.

 Photos below:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**94013835@N06/8595490537/in/**photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/

 If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00.
 Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 Ed Serrano


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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread William
I'm self-aborbed so I love pictures of myself.

Me and Homer, not riding but in a pretty spot:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/onehappycog/5389046606/in/faves-45758191@N04/
Me and Homer, riding:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27089900@N00/6277118255/in/faves-45758191@N04/
Me and Bomba, courtesy of Manny:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7219297968/in/faves-45758191@N04/

and, it's 2.5 years old, but I had a moment of Jay Ritchey hero worship and 
did a self-video of me on the Bombadil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybugg7u5UkM

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.


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RE: [RBW] Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
No good ones of a Riv bike with me riding it, but...

A near miss double panda, on my Quickbeam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7439949646/in/set-72157630285823166

The most unattractive panda ever taken, which I hereby aver was taken while 
riding my Quickbeam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7706897626/in/set-72157630889887648

And one not strictly on a Rivendell, but at least featuring a set of Bosco Bars 
(on a bike I built with Mike Flanagan at A.N.T.).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7440444856/in/set-72157630285823166/

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Pics of you on your Rivendell.

We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.

Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.

I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
Hillborne.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
That's a very pretty bike!

What's the word on Glorious sizing? For some reason, I keep thinking that 
the legacy Rivendell mixtes were sized smaller than norm, meaning one 
should size them smaller than what the PBH - 26 method indicates.

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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Heading out on an S48O with my two eldest daughters:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8462457702/in/photostream

Climbing Marshal Pass:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8461537388/in/photostream

Atop Carnero Pass:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8460437107/in/photostream

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:41:47 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.


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RE: [RBW] Bosco bars - bullmoose vs others

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Yes.  The Bullmoose are noticeably stiffer, at least to me.  I prefer them.  
But the regular bars are also fantastic, if the fixed position of the Bullmoose 
doesn't suit you.  It's great for me, but I'm kind of average-sized.

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Subject: [RBW] Bosco bars - bullmoose vs others

I'm interested in trying one of the bosco bars and am wondering if any of you 
have compared the bullmoose version with the non-bullmoose version. Obviously, 
the bullmoose locks you into a particular stem and particular reach. Anybody 
tried the wide bosco bars in the two different versions?
Thanks,
Mark
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RE: [RBW] FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Ed:

I'm interested.  As set up in the pics, what is the measurement from crank 
center to top of saddle?  And what is the measurement from rear edge of saddle 
to center of the stem clamp?

Was this sized/fitted by Rivendell?  How tall is your wife, and if you know, 
what is her PBH?

Thanks,
Tom
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] FS: Red Glorious 50cm

Hello everyone,
I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and then. I 
feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers helpful 
information and entertaining at times :)
Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post.
I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I mentioned 
it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to this group 
first.
I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built it) 
years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had time to 
ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with a  medical 
condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This bike has a mileage 
of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential streets). That's less 
than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage, indoors or covered with a 
plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern Cal. weather).
Specs are:
50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/ Crank 
Sugino XD2 170  46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/ Cassette 
Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross Aluminum handlebars 
54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/ Brakes Dia-Compre 
Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2  
250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX 
Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la 
Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have been replaced yet.
Photos below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/
If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00. Thank 
you for taking the time to read this.
Ed Serrano

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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
WOW, you rode the Kokopelli trails on a Hilsen... I'm impressed...*must be 
the caffeine*... (and I see you wisely CLIMBED down Horse Thief Bench). 
 I'll be returning there in a few weeks for the Fruita Fat Tire Festival... 
only this time I'll be sizing up the trails, wondering *Hmmm, could I 
clean this on my Bomba?*

Peace,
BB

On Friday, March 29, 2013 10:12:29 AM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 Here a set from a trip to Fruita Colorado on 
 2010http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157623986842368/show/. 
 Lots of self piloted A.H.H. action content along with my buddy and his 
 custom Funk Titanium all rounder.

 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:41:47 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bunik
In the SFBay, we're lucky to have Manny as resident paparazzi - me and
my Legolas:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7292861352/
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Bombadil Stripes remains one of my all-time faves... Rated 5 Bic lighters!



On Friday, March 29, 2013 11:05:52 AM UTC-4, William wrote:

 I'm self-aborbed so I love pictures of myself.

 Me and Homer, not riding but in a pretty spot:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/onehappycog/5389046606/in/faves-45758191@N04/
 Me and Homer, riding:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27089900@N00/6277118255/in/faves-45758191@N04/
 Me and Bomba, courtesy of Manny:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7219297968/in/faves-45758191@N04/

 and, it's 2.5 years old, but I had a moment of Jay Ritchey hero worship 
 and did a self-video of me on the Bombadil

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybugg7u5UkM

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 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.



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[RBW] 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace
indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur pull
(ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

Thanks.

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interface again.


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RE: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1, Bill - that's terrific.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

Bombadil Stripes remains one of my all-time faves... Rated 5 Bic lighters!



On Friday, March 29, 2013 11:05:52 AM UTC-4, William wrote:
I'm self-aborbed so I love pictures of myself.

Me and Homer, not riding but in a pretty spot:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/onehappycog/5389046606/in/faves-45758191@N04/
Me and Homer, riding:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27089900@N00/6277118255/in/faves-45758191@N04/
Me and Bomba, courtesy of Manny:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7219297968/in/faves-45758191@N04/

and, it's 2.5 years old, but I had a moment of Jay Ritchey hero worship and did 
a self-video of me on the Bombadil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybugg7u5UkM

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.

Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.

I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
Hillborne.
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[RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In fact, 
I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.

On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace 
 indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

 Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur pull 
 (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

 Thanks.

 Patrick Moore, damning Google under his breath for **ing with their email 
 interface again.


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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Climbing Old La Honda on my Atlantis near Woodside, California.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/262744_10151306751196692_1547264971_n.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Joe -- thanks. I just found this:

http://sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html

Which, being interpreted, saith (at least methinks it saith) that thou
canst index any 5 mm-spaced Shimano cogset with a pre-1997 Dura Ace rd as
long as thou havest / we/you/they have the matched shifters.

Or maybe saith it not this but saith otherwise...?

Patrick Moore, in Jacobean mood, in springlike ABQ, NM


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In
 fact, I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace
 indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

 Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur pull
 (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

 Thanks.

 Patrick Moore, damning Google under his breath for **ing with their
 email interface again.


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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread jinxed
Yessir! We rode everything in Fruita BUT the bench and I dont play that 
even on a full suspension. It's funny, that weekend just happened to be Fat 
Tire Fest and we had no idea till we arrived. Needless to say we got some 
odd looks and comments. I passed a few MTB's going downhill and got some 
hoots and hollars for it. Then when they rolled up behind at the bottom 
asked if we were doing some cyclocrossing? I was thoroughly impressed with 
the Hilsen and cleaned everything I would have on my front suspension mtb, 
but faster on the uphills though more judiciously on the down. It was that 
weekend that turned my mind regarding 29er mtb's.

On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:45:26 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 WOW, you rode the Kokopelli trails on a Hilsen... I'm impressed...*must 
 be the caffeine*... (and I see you wisely CLIMBED down Horse Thief 
 Bench).  I'll be returning there in a few weeks for the Fruita Fat Tire 
 Festival... only this time I'll be sizing up the trails, wondering *Hmmm, 
 could I clean this on my Bomba?*

 Peace,
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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Uhh..beats me, Patrick. Sheldon's answer - and he clearly knew his stuff - 
is much more complicated than mine, and I'm now utterly confused. Good 
luck, young man!

On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:17:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Joe -- thanks. I just found this:

 http://sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html

 Which, being interpreted, saith (at least methinks it saith) that thou 
 canst index any 5 mm-spaced Shimano cogset with a pre-1997 Dura Ace rd as 
 long as thou havest / we/you/they have the matched shifters.

 Or maybe saith it not this but saith otherwise...?

 Patrick Moore, in Jacobean mood, in springlike ABQ, NM


 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In 
 fact, I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace 
 indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

 Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur pull 
 (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

 Thanks.

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 email interface again.


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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Joe -- I'm not entirely sure myself, but have reached that minimal
level of confidence that I will spend a little $ to find out if I am wrong
or right.

Will report.

PAM


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uhh..beats me, Patrick. Sheldon's answer - and he clearly knew his stuff -
 is much more complicated than mine, and I'm now utterly confused. Good
 luck, young man!

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:17:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Joe -- thanks. I just found this:

 http://sheldonbrown.com/dura-**ace.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html

 Which, being interpreted, saith (at least methinks it saith) that thou
 canst index any 5 mm-spaced Shimano cogset with a pre-1997 Dura Ace rd as
 long as thou havest / we/you/they have the matched shifters.

 Or maybe saith it not this but saith otherwise...?

 Patrick Moore, in Jacobean mood, in springlike ABQ, NM


 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In
 fact, I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace
 indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

 Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur
 pull (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

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[RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters Albatross bars for commuting

2013-03-29 Thread Bryan
Hi, Erl

It sounds to me that the grip shifters have formed a bit of a bad habit. I 
had a commuting friend a while back who also had grip shifters on his bike, 
and the guy was in a new gear like every two seconds, and this was on a 
flat commute. He'd quickly shift through all his gears between stop lights 
- up and down, up and down. You can get by with far fewer gears. Even one 
gear. I have a slightly hilly 7-mile commute, and on those days when I ride 
a geared bike (I mostly commute on a Quickbeam), I switch gears maybe two 
or three times during the entire commute, and this is in busy LA traffic 
with tons of stop signs, red lights, mammoth potholes, speed bumps and 
idiot texting drivers. Grant talks about over-shifting in Just Ride, I 
think. You can get a lot more out of each gear than you think.  

I would suggest switching to the bar-end shifters, or even a single speed 
bike, just to train you off the over-shifting thing. 

Bryan 

 

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[RBW] Re: Two rack questions

2013-03-29 Thread William
It's totally OK to use the dogbone brazeon up the chainstay.  That's what 
they put it there for.  Whether the dropout braze on or the dogbone braze 
on is stronger is not super important in my opinion, because I think people 
break the bolt far more often than they break the braze on.  I like the 
dogbone because you can use a much longer bolt, and get more threads 
engaged.  

For the second question, I don't run the Duo, so I can't say anything smart 
about the load capacity with your mod.  I will say that your mod looks 
super clean.  Very nice work.  Longer bolts with spacers like that are more 
susceptible to fatique, because of the lever arm that the spacers create. 
 If you are the least bit worried about it, just carry one or two of those 
long bolts in your tool bag along with your tire levers.  Carrying those 
spares will insure that the originals never break!  :)

On Friday, March 29, 2013 5:00:55 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I have a couple of rack-mounting questions...

 Firstly, when I was building my Bombadil I completely missed (as in, 
 didn't consider using) the extra braze-ons on the seatstay near the 
 dropout, for getting the rack up a bit higher, and mounted my rear carrier 
 directly to the dropout. As it turns out with large tyres I could use a 
 little more room for the fender below the rack, so I'm thinking I'll try 
 moving the rack up to the braze-ons. Just wondering if attaching to the 
 braze-ons on the stays would lower the carrying capacity at all, compared 
 to mounting on the dropout? My guess is that the dropout eyelets would be 
 stronger than the braze-ons, but I don't know if that's true or not, or if 
 it matters at all in practice.

 Second thing is, in the earlier thread about the new Nitto hub area rack 
 from Riv, some people mentioned they were using Tubus Duo lowriders. I'm 
 wondering what methods people used to attach these racks to the fork 
 braze-ons on Riv bikes, since the racks are designed for forks with a 
 diameter of 32 mm with a threaded hole through the blade. I've attached a 
 pic below of how I did it. I realise the longer bolts will reduce the 
 breaking load of the rack a little bit but I'm not planning to load up the 
 front panniers much anyway.

 I'd like to hear what people think.

 Thanks,

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[RBW] Bosco Brothers

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bunik
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/sets/72157633119243122

Joe's Bike Garage and Warehouse wields at least a slightly corrupting
influence over friends and neighbors, as you'll see in my buddy Mike's
bike. Our families are close in age, and he's slowly but surely coming
under the spell of RBW/BOB. ;-)

Let me put in a plug for Bosco Bars- they are most excellent for town
and family cycling. I've had my pair on for a year now and our trailer
setup gets near-daily use. Mike was ready to upgrade from the
venerable but narrow Wald North Roads, and so... voila:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/8599864393

... his setup is diverges from mine in that he's using a short riser
stem, so as to bring the sleeve / straightaway of the bar nearer to
the kid's knees - his sons flop their legs over the bars and into the
basket. My stem, it's a long reach 130mm but I'm coming around to the
genius of closer-higher when working with Bosco. Riding Mike's
(downsize for me) Trek, I believe it was Kevin who said it best... I
am the King of all I survey!

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters Albatross bars for commuting

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
This is a good point. I only recently picked up my first singlespeed 
(that's built and actually being ridden), a Dahon folder, and I'm a little 
shocked how not-a big-deal it is to be in one gear over varied elevations. 
It's already transformed the way I ride my derailer bikes, which I had 
clearly been over-shifting.
 

On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:57:17 AM UTC-7, Bryan wrote:

 Hi, Erl

 It sounds to me that the grip shifters have formed a bit of a bad habit. I 
 had a commuting friend a while back who also had grip shifters on his bike, 
 and the guy was in a new gear like every two seconds, and this was on a 
 flat commute. He'd quickly shift through all his gears between stop lights 
 - up and down, up and down. You can get by with far fewer gears. Even one 
 gear. I have a slightly hilly 7-mile commute, and on those days when I ride 
 a geared bike (I mostly commute on a Quickbeam), I switch gears maybe two 
 or three times during the entire commute, and this is in busy LA traffic 
 with tons of stop signs, red lights, mammoth potholes, speed bumps and 
 idiot texting drivers. Grant talks about over-shifting in Just Ride, I 
 think. You can get a lot more out of each gear than you think.  

 I would suggest switching to the bar-end shifters, or even a single speed 
 bike, just to train you off the over-shifting thing. 

 Bryan 

  


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[RBW] Re: Long Shen trip

2013-03-29 Thread William
and a new bike!  The Clem Smith Jr!  It's like waiting for the next season 
of Downton Abbey, waiting for the next Rivendell model.  

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:56:06 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

 I very much enjoy the account of this that is currently on the Rivendell 
 Blug. 


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[RBW] Re: Bosco Brothers

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Bunik
On 3/29/13, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe it was Kevin who said it best... I am the King of all I survey!

*quote attribution to John, not KevEn... =- jb

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters Albatross bars for commuting

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Amen to this. I had a hardish day yesterday (hardly epic; I'm just weak)
and, at the end of the day faced an 8.3 mile return commute involving a
modest headwind and 5+ miles of climbing, of which 1 was steep, the rest
rolling -- all in a 72 fixed gear on a bike weighing 28 lb with load.

 No spring chicken, but, by pacing myself, I made it home without undue
travail. Moral: you don't need too many damned gears!


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Bryan bwedg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Erl

 It sounds to me that the grip shifters have formed a bit of a bad habit. I
 had a commuting friend a while back who also had grip shifters on his bike,
 and the guy was in a new gear like every two seconds, and this was on a
 flat commute. He'd quickly shift through all his gears between stop lights
 - up and down, up and down. You can get by with far fewer gears. Even one
 gear. I have a slightly hilly 7-mile commute, and on those days when I ride
 a geared bike (I mostly commute on a Quickbeam), I switch gears maybe two
 or three times during the entire commute, and this is in busy LA traffic
 with tons of stop signs, red lights, mammoth potholes, speed bumps and
 idiot texting drivers. Grant talks about over-shifting in Just Ride, I
 think. You can get a lot more out of each gear than you think.

 I would suggest switching to the bar-end shifters, or even a single speed
 bike, just to train you off the over-shifting thing.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters Albatross bars for commuting

2013-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Grip shifters are the crack of the bike world.  Or the Krispy Kremes, not sure 
which.  (They ARE different, right?)

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters  Albatross bars for commuting

Amen to this. I had a hardish day yesterday (hardly epic; I'm just weak) and, 
at the end of the day faced an 8.3 mile return commute involving a modest 
headwind and 5+ miles of climbing, of which 1 was steep, the rest rolling -- 
all in a 72 fixed gear on a bike weighing 28 lb with load.

 No spring chicken, but, by pacing myself, I made it home without undue 
travail. Moral: you don't need too many damned gears!

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Bryan 
bwedg...@hotmail.commailto:bwedg...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi, Erl

It sounds to me that the grip shifters have formed a bit of a bad habit. I had 
a commuting friend a while back who also had grip shifters on his bike, and the 
guy was in a new gear like every two seconds, and this was on a flat commute. 
He'd quickly shift through all his gears between stop lights - up and down, up 
and down. You can get by with far fewer gears. Even one gear. I have a slightly 
hilly 7-mile commute, and on those days when I ride a geared bike (I mostly 
commute on a Quickbeam), I switch gears maybe two or three times during the 
entire commute, and this is in busy LA traffic with tons of stop signs, red 
lights, mammoth potholes, speed bumps and idiot texting drivers. Grant talks 
about over-shifting in Just Ride, I think. You can get a lot more out of each 
gear than you think.

I would suggest switching to the bar-end shifters, or even a single speed bike, 
just to train you off the over-shifting thing.

Bryan


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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars - bullmoose vs others

2013-03-29 Thread Marc Irwin
I have the regular on my  Hillborne and the Bullmoose on my Hunq.  I like 
them both, I do have the regular bars set at a slight angle down but the 
bullmoose work fine also, I'm using a 12cm stem on the regular so there is 
not much difference in the reach.

Marc

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:48:26 PM UTC-4, markt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm interested in trying one of the bosco bars and am wondering if any of 
 you have compared the bullmoose version with the non-bullmoose version. 
 Obviously, the bullmoose locks you into a particular stem and particular 
 reach. Anybody tried the wide bosco bars in the two different versions?
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Tips for Removing Cork Grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'll be giving the bull moose Bosco bars a try, shifting from Albatross bars. 
Any tips for removing the cork grips in one piece so I can reuse them? They 
were installed by Riv when I bought the bike a year ago and are glued on.

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[RBW] Anyone oil and beeswax cork grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Has anyone tried oiling and beeswaxing the cork grips? I am thinking of trying 
this rather than shellac in the hopes of a better grip with sweaty hands. We 
use a 4:1 blend of coconut oil:beeswax on my oak platform pedals and I love the 
feel of it on my feet.

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Re: [RBW] Anyone oil and beeswax cork grips?

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This reminds me of the joke about the Vietnam-era jungle boot. Instructions
printed on the boot included the gnomic Do not boil. One GI added
freehand: Just peel and eat.


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 Has anyone tried oiling and beeswaxing the cork grips? I am thinking of
 trying this rather than shellac in the hopes of a better grip with sweaty
 hands. We use a 4:1 blend of coconut oil:beeswax on my oak platform pedals
 and I love the feel of it on my feet.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-29 Thread Patrick in VT
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:26:42 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

  what are people really training for other that for more riding?  


Training is more a byproduct of my lifestyle than anything else.  I'm very 
goal oriented and tend to set goals in the areas of my life in which I have 
some passion and maybe a sliver of talent. Reaching a goal is incredibly 
gratifying - I love that feeling, regardless of whether my goal is 
sport-oriented or not.  Truly, I don't consider training for running, 
cycling or skiing any different than practicing the instruments I play - 
I simply do exercises that help me reach my potential within the time 
constraints my life will allow.  I just do stuff that will hopefully make 
me better at what I like doing.  Participation in sport is another reason I 
train.  I'm not competitive by nature, but I love sport.  It's fun and full 
of emotion, which makes it a source of motivation for me.  which lends 
consistency to my life ...and it's amazing how far we can get with 
consistency.  do something daily for a few years and wow.  participation 
also gets me more involved in my community - i live in a very active town 
where people are outside doing stuff all the time. my city hosts a 
marathon, a cycling stage race, triathlon nationals.  we have a big 'ole 
lake and some mountains to play in.  being a part of that community brings 
all kinds of positive reinforcement.  and then there are the upsides of 
training, like good health and fitness.  and being able to share fun 
experiences with family and friends.  and reduced stress.  and I sleep very 
well.  there's a spiritual component to a good long ride or run too - i 
appreciate the time i get to reflect when training and never take that 
for granted.  training and just riding are pretty much the same for me. a 
couple times a week, it's not just riding.  but that's fine too.  I still 
enjoy it.

sorry if that was a long answer to a question that intended to be 
rhetorical!

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[RBW] How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread clayton
Hi folks,

A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and it's 
quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me thinking on 
how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed easily but be 
very secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for groceries etc. I 
didn't want to haul around an empty basket all the time, or deal with zip 
ties constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it down the next time I 
needed it to go to the store. So my requirements were: Instant on/off, 
secure, elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. All was achieved 
but the elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver bits...lol.

I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an 
additional overload for *planned* shopping trips. 

Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so 
you could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from 
old to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten 
photos and the descriptions. 

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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread john muhl
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:39:08 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Congrats! What's under the bartape? Looks cushy.


Cheapo cork tape. It adds just a touch of squish and the extra fatness fits 
my hand better than cloth on bar.

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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread john muhl
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:48:40 PM UTC-5, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:

 What tires do you have on your Atlantis?


The really great Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road.

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[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread clayton
*It might have helped if I had added the photo link, huh? Here it 
is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8600197377/in/photostream/*

On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:52:06 PM UTC-7, clayton wrote:

 Hi folks,

 A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and 
 it's quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me 
 thinking on how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed 
 easily but be very secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for 
 groceries etc. I didn't want to haul around an empty basket all the time, 
 or deal with zip ties constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it 
 down the next time I needed it to go to the store. So my requirements were: 
 Instant on/off, secure, elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. 
 All was achieved but the elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver 
 bits...lol.

 I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an 
 additional overload for *planned* shopping trips. 

 Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so 
 you could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from 
 old to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten 
 photos and the 
 descriptions. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8600197377/in/photostream/


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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fascinating, Patrick. I'm the opposite. I was über competitive pre-brain 
injury. One of the hardest things for me to learn was to avoid going 
anaerobic because of the additional stress and hormones it releases. What I 
discovered, for me anyway, was just how much more enjoyment I got out of 
doing whatever I was doing because I was doing it sustainably rather than 
pushing myself to the edge. An unexpected benefit of doing that was I am 
able to do it as fast now as pre-brain injury but with far less effort and 
much more enjoyment.

I love what you say about the time to reflect when exerting yourself. For 
me, running and biking are beautiful times of prayer, active contemplation. 
My body working is deep time for my clay, mind, and soul.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, March 29, 2013 1:50:49 PM UTC-6, Patrick in VT wrote:

 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:26:42 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

  what are people really training for other that for more riding?  


 Training is more a byproduct of my lifestyle than anything else.  I'm very 
 goal oriented and tend to set goals in the areas of my life in which I have 
 some passion and maybe a sliver of talent. Reaching a goal is incredibly 
 gratifying - I love that feeling, regardless of whether my goal is 
 sport-oriented or not.  Truly, I don't consider training for running, 
 cycling or skiing any different than practicing the instruments I play - 
 I simply do exercises that help me reach my potential within the time 
 constraints my life will allow.  I just do stuff that will hopefully make 
 me better at what I like doing.  Participation in sport is another reason I 
 train.  I'm not competitive by nature, but I love sport.  It's fun and full 
 of emotion, which makes it a source of motivation for me.  which lends 
 consistency to my life ...and it's amazing how far we can get with 
 consistency.  do something daily for a few years and wow.  participation 
 also gets me more involved in my community - i live in a very active town 
 where people are outside doing stuff all the time. my city hosts a 
 marathon, a cycling stage race, triathlon nationals.  we have a big 'ole 
 lake and some mountains to play in.  being a part of that community brings 
 all kinds of positive reinforcement.  and then there are the upsides of 
 training, like good health and fitness.  and being able to share fun 
 experiences with family and friends.  and reduced stress.  and I sleep very 
 well.  there's a spiritual component to a good long ride or run too - i 
 appreciate the time i get to reflect when training and never take that 
 for granted.  training and just riding are pretty much the same for me. a 
 couple times a week, it's not just riding.  but that's fine too.  I still 
 enjoy it.

 sorry if that was a long answer to a question that intended to be 
 rhetorical!


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[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread Zack
That is awesome.

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[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Nice! It looks elegant from where I sit.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, March 29, 2013 1:52:06 PM UTC-6, clayton wrote:

 Hi folks,

 A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and 
 it's quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me 
 thinking on how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed 
 easily but be very secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for 
 groceries etc. I didn't want to haul around an empty basket all the time, 
 or deal with zip ties constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it 
 down the next time I needed it to go to the store. So my requirements were: 
 Instant on/off, secure, elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. 
 All was achieved but the elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver 
 bits...lol.

 I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an 
 additional overload for *planned* shopping trips. 

 Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so 
 you could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from 
 old to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten 
 photos and the descriptions. 


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[RBW] Re: Two rack questions

2013-03-29 Thread Tom Harrop
Thanks, good answers on both points... I will carry some extra bolts, an 
excellent backup that I would not have thought of!

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread john muhl
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:40:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Welcome to the club; the products are addictive.

 Beside its good looks, please describe what you like about the Atlantis.


I guess it's mostly the same stuff as others like about other Rivs; 
comfort, ride quality, versatility. I like that I can easily fit a 50-622 
Big Apple and fender. I'm waiting on a pair of Super Motos and am curious 
if there will still be sufficient clearance for a fender. The fork crown 
mounts are great; you can remove fenders without messing with rack mounting 
or change racks without messing with the fenders or put a rear rack up 
front (I have a Mark's there now). There are bosses all over the place. It 
begs to be ridden and has strong arguments for more rambling and more 
impromptu detours.
 

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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread john muhl
On Friday, March 29, 2013 7:11:16 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:

 Hey John,

 North Texas Riv owner reporting in.  All's well up in northwest Denton 
 County...

 http://pawndero.wordpress.com/

 Come up and do some rural rides with me.

 Chris
 Sanger, Texas


Looks like fun riding. I'm nursing a broken toe and am limited to pretty 
short rides but when all is healed I'll take you up on that. 

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
impromptu detours

YES! That sums up my love of my Hunqapillar beautifully. I can always turn 
off on unexplored roads and trails, and when they get to narrow, park and 
run. Shere freedom and delight.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, March 29, 2013 2:08:10 PM UTC-6, john muhl wrote:

 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:40:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Welcome to the club; the products are addictive.

 Beside its good looks, please describe what you like about the Atlantis.


 I guess it's mostly the same stuff as others like about other Rivs; 
 comfort, ride quality, versatility. I like that I can easily fit a 50-622 
 Big Apple and fender. I'm waiting on a pair of Super Motos and am curious 
 if there will still be sufficient clearance for a fender. The fork crown 
 mounts are great; you can remove fenders without messing with rack mounting 
 or change racks without messing with the fenders or put a rear rack up 
 front (I have a Mark's there now). There are bosses all over the place. It 
 begs to be ridden and has strong arguments for more rambling and more 
 impromptu detours.
  


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[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread Tom Harrop
Amazing! Great job.

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Re: [RBW] How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread David Hays
Great idea and excellent execution.
I think it looks clean and elegant myself.
David

On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and it's 
 quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me thinking on 
 how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed easily but be very 
 secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for groceries etc. I didn't 
 want to haul around an empty basket all the time, or deal with zip ties 
 constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it down the next time I needed 
 it to go to the store. So my requirements were: Instant on/off, secure, 
 elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. All was achieved but the 
 elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver bits...lol.
 
 I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an additional 
 overload for planned shopping trips. 
 
 Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so you 
 could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from old 
 to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten photos 
 and the descriptions. 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread Tom Harrop
I didn't read the whole Sheldon article you linked and I'm sure you're 
aware of this 'cos you build your own cassettes, but just in case—he does 
also have a cheat sheet for cassette 
spacinghttp://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Brothers

2013-03-29 Thread René Sterental
Agreed! The Bosco Bars rule!!!


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3/29/13, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it was Kevin who said it best... I am the King of all I
 survey!

 *quote attribution to John, not KevEn... =- jb

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread Mike Williams
Hey Pondero,You're bikes are beautiful 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey John,
 
 North Texas Riv owner reporting in.  All's well up in northwest Denton 
 County...
 
 http://pawndero.wordpress.com/
 
 Come up and do some rural rides with me.
 
 Chris
 Sanger, Texas
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[RBW] Re: Will a Hilsen fit the Rock N Road Tires?

2013-03-29 Thread Dennis Hogan


On Friday, March 29, 2013 4:31:55 AM UTC-7, Dennis Hogan wrote:

 My AHH fit the RR's without fenders. The ride was amazing on road and 
 gravel. Unfortunately, I 
 am in Portland and could not fit fenders with them. They were sold to a 
 list member. I am currently running Continental Cyclecross 42 that Riv 
 stocked at one time and they work with SLS Urban Cross 65 fenders

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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Going off on a tangent.  I have a Dura-Ace Uniglide hub.  The first
and second position cogs are DA Uniglide.  The remaining cogs and
spacers are 7-speed Hyperglide (wide spline filed down).  It all fits
on the hub just fine.  I've made indexed shifting work with a non-DA
shifter and derailer, but it's a bit clunky.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In fact,
 I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura Ace
 indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

 Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the derailleur pull
 (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed Dura Ace indexing versus 7 speed Shimano non-DA indexing

2013-03-29 Thread Nick Payne
No, it was the amount of cable pulled for each shift that was different 
prior to the introduction of 9-speed SIS. The cog spacing was the same 
between Dura-ace and other shimano cassettes with the same number of 
cogs. See http://sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html.


On 30/03/13 03:00, Joe Bernard wrote:
Cog spacing, it was narrower than the other 7- and 8-speed groups. In 
fact, I think you can click-shift 7/8 Dura-Ace with 9-speed shifters.


On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

I know that, up to a certain point -- 7 speed or 8 speed -- Dura
Ace indexing was different from other Shimano indexing. Question:

Was this difference in the cog spacing, or was it in the
derailleur pull (ie, in the shifter/rear derailleur combo), or both?



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[RBW] Re: Tips for Removing Cork Grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I've never really had any luck doing that, as the glue I'd used was 
reasonably tenacious and I did not take the time.  They broke up pretty 
well both times.

You'd need something slender and sharpened, reasonably flexible to work 
around between the grip and the bar to separate the grip from the glue 
before working them off.  Otherwise they do tend to break apart.  

You MIGHT (untested theory follows)
- drill a hole in the end of one just large enough to take the business end 
of a compressor air hose nozzle - then see if air pressure will help you 
off.  That used to work for rubber grips 
- the other option would be to slice the grip laterally and take each half 
off (easier to work the details with a flexible blade), then make a hollow 
at each end for a twine wrap when you reattach to the new bars.

- Jim clearly, it's Friday...

On Friday, March 29, 2013 11:48:23 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'll be giving the bull moose Bosco bars a try, shifting from Albatross 
 bars. Any tips for removing the cork grips in one piece so I can reuse 
 them? They were installed by Riv when I bought the bike a year ago and are 
 glued on.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have used about a half dozen velcro wire ties to attach a small basket to 
a small front rack.  You can't get them as tight as zips, so the trick is 
to use a bunch at opposite points.

Michael


On Friday, March 29, 2013 3:52:06 PM UTC-4, clayton wrote:

 Hi folks,

 A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and 
 it's quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me 
 thinking on how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed 
 easily but be very secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for 
 groceries etc. I didn't want to haul around an empty basket all the time, 
 or deal with zip ties constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it 
 down the next time I needed it to go to the store. So my requirements were: 
 Instant on/off, secure, elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. 
 All was achieved but the elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver 
 bits...lol.

 I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an 
 additional overload for *planned* shopping trips. 

 Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so 
 you could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from 
 old to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten 
 photos and the descriptions. 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
Ed, I'm pondering this, but I can't go as hi as $2500.  If you don't get 
offers in that range, would you please send me an email.

Michael

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:57:16 PM UTC-4, Ed S wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and 
 then. I feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers 
 helpful information and entertaining at times :)
 Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post.
 I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I 
 mentioned it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to 
 this group first.
 I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built 
 it) years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had 
 time to ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with 
 a  medical condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This 
 bike has a mileage of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential 
 streets). That's less than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage, 
 indoors or covered with a plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern 
 Cal. weather).
 Specs are:

 50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/ 
 Crank Sugino XD2 170  46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/ 
 Cassette Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross 
 Aluminum handlebars 54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/ 
 Brakes Dia-Compre Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto 
 Crystal Fellow 27.2  250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67 
 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire 
 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have 
 been replaced yet.

 Photos below:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/

 If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00. 
 Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 Ed Serrano




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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Removing Cork Grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Peter Morgano
if you are careful you can use a heat gun and get them so the glue is gooey
and pull them off, but one wrong pull and they will tear so have patience.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I've never really had any luck doing that, as the glue I'd used was
 reasonably tenacious and I did not take the time.  They broke up pretty
 well both times.

 You'd need something slender and sharpened, reasonably flexible to work
 around between the grip and the bar to separate the grip from the glue
 before working them off.  Otherwise they do tend to break apart.

 You MIGHT (untested theory follows)
 - drill a hole in the end of one just large enough to take the business
 end of a compressor air hose nozzle - then see if air pressure will help
 you off.  That used to work for rubber grips
 - the other option would be to slice the grip laterally and take each half
 off (easier to work the details with a flexible blade), then make a hollow
 at each end for a twine wrap when you reattach to the new bars.

 - Jim clearly, it's Friday...


 On Friday, March 29, 2013 11:48:23 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'll be giving the bull moose Bosco bars a try, shifting from Albatross
 bars. Any tips for removing the cork grips in one piece so I can reuse
 them? They were installed by Riv when I bought the bike a year ago and are
 glued on.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Removing Cork Grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Matthew J
VERY CAREFUL!  I've succeeded once out of maybe four tries.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-29 Thread Peter Morgano
I was a 5 sport letterman, I am black belt and had offers to play college
football, albeit AAA schools, haha.  I used to be competitive in most
things but no offense to cyclists or runners in general but I just never
saw them as something that needed to be competitive. I ran cross country
but it was more about camaraderie than winning so I guess I just apply
that mantra to cycling nowadays.  More power to anyone who is disciplined
enough to basically compete against themselves, though it's more than I
could say for myself. I always hated weight training and aerobics during
wrestling and football. I am like Bruce now, just trying to be in enough
shape to enjoy the ride.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Fascinating, Patrick. I'm the opposite. I was über competitive pre-brain
 injury. One of the hardest things for me to learn was to avoid going
 anaerobic because of the additional stress and hormones it releases. What I
 discovered, for me anyway, was just how much more enjoyment I got out of
 doing whatever I was doing because I was doing it sustainably rather than
 pushing myself to the edge. An unexpected benefit of doing that was I am
 able to do it as fast now as pre-brain injury but with far less effort and
 much more enjoyment.

 I love what you say about the time to reflect when exerting yourself. For
 me, running and biking are beautiful times of prayer, active contemplation.
 My body working is deep time for my clay, mind, and soul.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Friday, March 29, 2013 1:50:49 PM UTC-6, Patrick in VT wrote:

 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:26:42 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

  what are people really training for other that for more riding?


 Training is more a byproduct of my lifestyle than anything else.  I'm
 very goal oriented and tend to set goals in the areas of my life in which I
 have some passion and maybe a sliver of talent. Reaching a goal is
 incredibly gratifying - I love that feeling, regardless of whether my goal
 is sport-oriented or not.  Truly, I don't consider training for running,
 cycling or skiing any different than practicing the instruments I play -
 I simply do exercises that help me reach my potential within the time
 constraints my life will allow.  I just do stuff that will hopefully make
 me better at what I like doing.  Participation in sport is another reason I
 train.  I'm not competitive by nature, but I love sport.  It's fun and full
 of emotion, which makes it a source of motivation for me.  which lends
 consistency to my life ...and it's amazing how far we can get with
 consistency.  do something daily for a few years and wow.  participation
 also gets me more involved in my community - i live in a very active town
 where people are outside doing stuff all the time. my city hosts a
 marathon, a cycling stage race, triathlon nationals.  we have a big 'ole
 lake and some mountains to play in.  being a part of that community brings
 all kinds of positive reinforcement.  and then there are the upsides of
 training, like good health and fitness.  and being able to share fun
 experiences with family and friends.  and reduced stress.  and I sleep very
 well.  there's a spiritual component to a good long ride or run too - i
 appreciate the time i get to reflect when training and never take that
 for granted.  training and just riding are pretty much the same for me. a
 couple times a week, it's not just riding.  but that's fine too.  I still
 enjoy it.

 sorry if that was a long answer to a question that intended to be
 rhetorical!

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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I'll bet they were linin' up to buy you a Fat Tire Ale at the Hot Tomato 
Cafe that evening... yessir...  Come on out April 25-28 for this year's 
fest. We'll be hangin out in a fun trailer with a patio on the roof... I 
won't be riding my Bomba, but I may ship my Niner MCR (steel non-suspended) 
29er.

Peace,
BB

On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:42:50 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 Yessir! We rode everything in Fruita BUT the bench and I dont play that 
 even on a full suspension. It's funny, that weekend just happened to be Fat 
 Tire Fest and we had no idea till we arrived. Needless to say we got some 
 odd looks and comments. I passed a few MTB's going downhill and got some 
 hoots and hollars for it. Then when they rolled up behind at the bottom 
 asked if we were doing some cyclocrossing? I was thoroughly impressed with 
 the Hilsen and cleaned everything I would have on my front suspension mtb, 
 but faster on the uphills though more judiciously on the down. It was that 
 weekend that turned my mind regarding 29er mtb's.

 On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:45:26 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 WOW, you rode the Kokopelli trails on a Hilsen... I'm impressed...*must 
 be the caffeine*... (and I see you wisely CLIMBED down Horse Thief 
 Bench).  I'll be returning there in a few weeks for the Fruita Fat Tire 
 Festival... only this time I'll be sizing up the trails, wondering *Hmmm, 
 could I clean this on my Bomba?*

 Peace,
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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner

2013-03-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks -- interesting. My two remaining customs define bicycle quality --
the later one turned 10 years old this month. And over the years I
experience again and again how surprising the Rivs fit and feel, when I get
back on them after riding other bikes for a while, even nice bikes. The
Rivs just feel like home.

I can't say that about *every* Riv I've ridden, but I can say it of 3 out
of 4.

I must say that, as much as I love my gofast fixie custom -- I *won't*
weigh it down with fat tires, racks, luggage, etc; climbing is just too
much fun on it -- by far most of my riding is fast, detoured utility
riding for which, basically, I want a racing bike with fatter tires and
luggage. The Ram may be a new entry to this category.

*Still* waiting for a wheelset for the Ram -- brother did not bring one for
me this weekend. I am eager to see how I like that one -- the geometry
seems right with 58 c-c st and 57 upsloped tt, c-c. Must look for wheelset
at the bike shop where I just started working (Stevie's Happy Bikes in
Corrales) -- interesting place with huge stock of old stuff, consignment
stuff, old parts. (Bike shop gig may be temporary -- let's see if resume
writing picks up -- and it is very part time and largely social, but it
gives me an opportunity to trade otherwise wasted hours for the bike parts
I spend so much discretionary income on.)


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:08 PM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:40:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Welcome to the club; the products are addictive.

 Beside its good looks, please describe what you like about the Atlantis.


 I guess it's mostly the same stuff as others like about other Rivs;
 comfort, ride quality, versatility. I like that I can easily fit a 50-622
 Big Apple and fender. I'm waiting on a pair of Super Motos and am curious
 if there will still be sufficient clearance for a fender. The fork crown
 mounts are great; you can remove fenders without messing with rack mounting
 or change racks without messing with the fenders or put a rear rack up
 front (I have a Mark's there now). There are bosses all over the place. It
 begs to be ridden and has strong arguments for more rambling and more
 impromptu detours.


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[RBW] Resist nomads on a hilsen

2013-03-29 Thread Seth Vidal
Hey all,
I got a pair of the nomad 45mm tires for the hilsen. Not had a chance for a
longer ride yet but just around the block has felt fine. A little squishy.
:-)

Some pics of the clearance here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8600628151/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8600628045/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8601727946/

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Resist nomads on a hilsen

2013-03-29 Thread Kelly

I just ordered a pair.  They look nice.  I can give my wife her tires back 
now. :)

Kelly

On Friday, March 29, 2013 7:54:49 PM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote:

 Hey all,
 I got a pair of the nomad 45mm tires for the hilsen. Not had a chance for 
 a longer ride yet but just around the block has felt fine. A little 
 squishy. :-) 

 Some pics of the clearance here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8600628151/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8600628045/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8601727946/

 -sv


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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Kelly
Well as long as it doesn't have to be a good picture I'll bite.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8561086578/in/set-72157632471917923

Me on my Homer. 

Kelly

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:41:47 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Jeremy Till
Ain't that true.  Nothing of me on my Quickbeam, but here's one by Manny of 
me on my Salsa, probably the best picture anyone's ever taken of me riding: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/8344536868/in/faves-85709120@N07/

On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:51:10 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the SFBay, we're lucky to have Manny as resident paparazzi - me and 
 my Legolas: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7292861352/ 
 =- Joe Bunik 
 Walnut Creek, CA 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm

2013-03-29 Thread dougP
Ed:

I've had two good friends that have had knee replacements.  In both cases, 
cycling was strongly recommended for physical therapy.  These guys were 
both in their late 60s.  One guy had the replacement in October  we toured 
Portugal 6 months later.  You may want to ask about the recommended therapy 
program to see if cycling is a possibility.  

dougP

On Friday, March 29, 2013 2:51:47 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Ed, I'm pondering this, but I can't go as hi as $2500.  If you don't get 
 offers in that range, would you please send me an email.

 Michael

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:57:16 PM UTC-4, Ed S wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and 
 then. I feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers 
 helpful information and entertaining at times :)
 Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post.
 I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I 
 mentioned it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to 
 this group first.
 I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built 
 it) years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had 
 time to ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with 
 a  medical condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This 
 bike has a mileage of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential 
 streets). That's less than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage, 
 indoors or covered with a plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern 
 Cal. weather).
 Specs are:

 50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/ 
 Crank Sugino XD2 170  46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/ 
 Cassette Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross 
 Aluminum handlebars 54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/ 
 Brakes Dia-Compre Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto 
 Crystal Fellow 27.2  250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67 
 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire 
 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have 
 been replaced yet.

 Photos below:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/

 If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00. 
 Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 Ed Serrano




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[RBW] Re: Resist nomads on a hilsen

2013-03-29 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm curious how they ride, I tried a set of the 35's and they rode fast and 
cornered great but  didn't track straight very well. Might have been just a 
bad tire, but I took them off and went back to JB's.  

~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Removing Cork Grips?

2013-03-29 Thread Robert Barr
I am 0/4. The last two sets came off in small pieces. This time I used less
Gorilla Glue!


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 VERY CAREFUL!  I've succeeded once out of maybe four tries.


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[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.

2013-03-29 Thread Kellie Stapleton
yes what a great shot!

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:51:12 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 My 4-year old and I often go on little bike excursions... often to a 
 nearby MUP with some fun dirt side paths. Usually I'm behind the camera but 
 on this day he asked if he could take the pics. I love how this one is 
 framed and tilted just so... no editing required.  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8174249858/
 --Smitty



 On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them.
  
 Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell.
  
 I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new 
 Hillborne.



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