Re: [RBW] CicLAvia April 21st report.

2013-04-23 Thread hsmitham
Bryan,

Well stated. I felt similarly. While riding the Ballona Creek trail I 
envisioned all these creeks and rivers somehow interconnected to create 
bikeways without automobiles, wouldn't that be something.

Hugh

On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:21:05 PM UTC-7, Bryan wrote:

 I'm still smiling. I had a little bounce in my pedal stroke riding to and 
 from work today, although it was a bit sad to return to the world of cars 
 after seeing what the world of bikes looks like.

 Bryan 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Really looks nice.  I also liked that bar tape.  It didn't last as long for
me as Brooks tape does, but it costs less too.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Brent baver...@shaw.ca wrote:

I finally put everything together and went on some rides - although
 i have been spoiled by the Hetres on the Bleriot the Romulus rides decently
 with 32mm Pasela Tour Guards although I feel more through the frame. I will
 try and post an image although this is my first attempt here. The rear
 Mavic Open Pro rim creaked quite badly ( it was a used wheel set ) but
 after oiling around the nipples it finally stopped. Older age had me
 putting on a shorter Nitto Technomic 60mm stem along with 44 cm Noddle
 handlebars. The handlebar tape is leather from Taiwan I purchased on ebay
 and is pretty good quality for around 55.00 shipped. Crank set is a V.O
 compact ( 48/36 ) and the rear cassette is a Shimano HG 81 ( 12-28 ). FIrst
 time trying a long cage Microshift rear derailleur and the quality is very
 good and it works quite nicely, I am using a Campagnolo Centaur front
 changer and the barcons are Dura Ace 9 speed. Cane Creek SCR 5 brake levers
 and Tektro side pulls for braking. The Romulus rides and handles very
 similarly to my mid '70's Italian Sabatini road bike which is a compliment
 but of course the Romulus is more comfortable and practical.



 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.

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Re: [RBW] Re-Introduction

2013-04-23 Thread William R.
Hi Dave. It's a Zimbale saddle bag, which I have come to realize is an Asian 
(Korea?) company that basically copies Carradice. I have some remorse over that 
(not the Asian part, the copying of Carradice). I take solace in the fact the 
saddle bag seems to me to be their one bag that I couldn't find their 
inspiration for. So maybe it's an original design? If you do a search for 
Zimbale you will find these bags at low cost but limited availability. Last 
time I checked, the company didn't seem to be thriving, I think that might be 
because of their grey-ish market existence. FWIW: it's bigger than the Brand V 
saddle bag that I also have on my other bike and like, but smaller than most 
other dedicated saddlebags that Carradice and others make with additional 
pockets. -Bill

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Someday when the technology has proven itself, maybe we'll get a disc brake 
Riv! Wheel size changes will be trivial!

On Monday, April 22, 2013 11:33:03 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:

 On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:42:59 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:


 I have to admit, I'm now starting to wonder, just how big of a tire would 
 fit I think Rock-n-Roads would easily enough (might have to remove the 
 fenders though). But beyond that I'm now wondering if any 29er tires 
 would go 


 I happen to have a set of 29er wheels for rim brakes sitting in the 
 garage. I'll mount them up and see how they fit. Mine's a prototype so 
 yours might have more clearance.


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Re: [RBW] FS: 62 CM Ebisu All purpose

2013-04-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks to everyone who shoed an interest in the Ebisu. Too many for me to 
try to respond personally to each, my apologies for that.  It has been sold.

Thanks also for the kind words about the bike (and shop)  As for 
retirement, oddly I actually ride the singles less.  My commute was 30 
miles a day, I spend more time on the tandem with my wife; and I have found 
that I enjoy three or four two hour rides a week and no longer have any 
urge to do really long rides.  Two hours is great, three is OK, four is no 
longer fun.

Michael

On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:32:54 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations on retirement! I thought that meant you got to start 
 playing with the bikes you have (and accumulate more!).

 Cheers,
 David



 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Michael Hechmer 
 mhec...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I used this bike to commute but now that I have retired, and also bought 
 a Saluki have decided to sell it and my '84Trek 620.  The Ebisu is an 
 excellent commuting / touring bike.  A very comfortable ride with great low 
 speed stability.   Very favorably reviewed in BQ, Summer of 06.

 The bike is in very good condition.  $1400 plus shipping for the whole 
 bike, Frame set with Phil Wood BB  Ultegra HS $900. Plus Shipping.
 Mfg description  specs at:   
 http://www.jitensha.com/eng/aboutframes_e.html

 Pictures here:  
 https://plus.google.com/photos/110692344592863063357/albums/5854831839073695905?gpinv=AMIXal9_F0FFEFZgQgQH3bqnhsmsf4OsbmiLMqwdLAgus25JkPMh0z2p_tUXSXWNDAbe78barogZtJvcoReICCmbaydSKMJUfbuSF8I8MeyKwmUYQ8Hd04scfem=1authkey=COqjxYHt_Jr0XQ



 Frame  fork have never been crashed, have no dings and no scratches 
 other than the ones pictured.


 Components:


 Phil Wood BB   Ultegra Head Set.  Both in very good condition

 Nitto Stem, Bars,  Seat Post and rack in excellent condition

 Sugino Triple Crank, Ultegra 9 speed cassette, Silver BE Shifters.  All 
 in very good condition

 Deore Deraillers.  Clean, look like new

 Rims Mavic MA 40;  well used but round with no sign of cracking.  Very 
 sturdy

 Rear Hub is Ultegra in very good condition; Front is Campy NR. With lots 
 of miles on it but still going OK.  Tires Avocet Cross, 38C pictured

 Brakes are New Tektro Cantis and Cane Creek levers.  The hoods have 
 darkened but the levers are otherwise perfect.

 Nitto Mini front rack, with home made light mount attachment

 VO steel fenders without any dings.

 Reply off list

 Michael

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[RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
I doubt there are more than a handful of Rivendell owners who haven't 
cycled for years and owned numerous bikes before taking the plunge.

I certainly fit into this category. I hadn't bicycled at all since my brain 
injury at the end of 2002, though I rode a recumbent trike for a few years. 
When I discovered I could ride an upright again I did a lot of testing and 
research, borrowing bikes from others to both test the concept of if/how 
far I could ride. I discovered a distinct difference between how steel felt 
from other frames, and looking into it discovered Grant and Riv. I loved 
the do anything bike concept (one of the huge drawbacks of the trike for 
me), as well as approach to fit and decided to take the plunge. Far less 
costly than ending up in the same place after buying other, lesser bikes. 
Other steel bikes were tempting, but for the relatively small additional 
cost, it just seemed to make sense to see what I could do on a Rivendell. I 
have been delighted with that choice. The ability to tour on any road or 
trail I want, the solid responsiveness on pavement, dirt, and single track, 
with or without touring gear, for 7-8 hours a day is wondrous freedom. 
People who know me still don't understand the why of it (and my hunqapillar 
is way too big for them to try and thus understand).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 22, 2013 8:38:17 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 Hugh:

 Well put.  Especially for people who are new to cycling, the concept of a 
 multi-thousand dollar bike is mind boggling.  I doubt there are more than a 
 handful of Rivendell owners who haven't cycled for years and owned numerous 
 bikes before taking the plunge.  Our little corner of the universe is the 
 lugged steel niche of the all-rounder / touring / country bike niche of the 
 niche sport of cycling.  I'm grateful to have found Rivendell and that 
 there are enough other enthusiasts for this ethos to be on-going.  

 I love the beater car / sweet bike idea.  Many years ago there was a 
 magazine article about riders whose bikes are worth more than their 
 cars.  As far as I'm concerned, my Atlantis is already worth more than my 
 Toyota.  

 dougP

 On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:20:40 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Wanted to add something to this topic. 

 When I ride with people who are not as infatuated as I with all things 
 bicycles but want to start cycling I often have a discussion about the 
 attributes of my bike especially when I tell them it's made for mixed 
 terrain it always distills to how much! There is always a gasp then I tell 
 them there is a less expensive alternative like a Hillborne and let em know 
 the price, a slightly smaller gasp, then the LHT comes to mind under 
 $1300.00 built. IMHO I  think it is positive to direct people to Rivish 
 type bikes (someone already said Grant does the same) that are within their 
 realm of financial comfort. More people on comfortable bikes is in 
 humanities best interest. 

 It's like the difference between a Toyota Camry and a Lexus (use which 
 ever car manufacturer you prefer) The Camry is reliable and comfortable and 
 reasonably priced and the Lexus is all that and adds some aesthetics for a 
 premium, both function well it just depends on the individuals priorities.

 Lastly, as enlightened cyclists who appreciate Riv logic aren't we beyond 
 the elitism we abhor? As for me I don't care if my neighbor wants to ride a 
 carbon fiber road bike, hey he's on a bike! If he comes to me about comfort 
 issues I'll extol the benefits of a quill stem and leather saddle and help 
 him how I can. 

  I know I'm probably rehashing something some else has already stated but 
 perhaps I'm saying a bit differently. Human on a bike any bike= good deal.

 Best,

 Hugh I'd rather have a beater car and a sweet bike Smitham
 Sunland, CA

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:56:54 AM UTC-7, William wrote:

 Thanks Jim for all you do.  As a poster that sometimes says too much or 
 sometimes says the wrong thing in the wrong way, I've been more diligent in 
 asking myself right before hitting Post the following two questions:

 1.  Will the board be any better off if I hit the Post button?  Even if 
 it's just a tiny bit better, that's good
 2.  Will the board be any worse off if I hit the Discard button instead? 
  

 Of the posts I type, I end up hitting the Discard button maybe 30% of 
 the time.  I've regretted posting things in the past.  I've never regretted 
 discarding a post.  




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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-23 Thread Michael


 Nice bike.
 Congratulations!
  

What do you mean by old age. How did the longer stems effect you?
I am thinking of going to a shorter stem myself.

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Me too. I thought about a bike around 2000 or 2001, after returning from a
scout hike with my son that nearly killed me. I knew I needed a fun way to
work on fitness and my 1st bike was a self bribe to get off the couch. It
was a steel framed Trek Navigator (rail trail bike). The cycling bug bit
hard and I went through a series of bikes that ads said would be great for
me. None were, and they ended up sold to finance the next go. A few years
later, I found Rivendell bikes on the Harris site, while looking for a
saddle. The riding philosophy matched up well with my personal experience,
despite running against all the magazine articles. I was really hooked on
the Rambouillet when I read that it was affordable for someone with a job
and bicycling priorities. Finally, in late 2006, I ordered mine, selling my
pseudo racer to help fund it. I bought a 2d bike, used, and a 3rd frameset
only, also used. Now I have 3 examples of Rivendells and consider myself a
bike wealthy man!


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 I doubt there are more than a handful of Rivendell owners who haven't
 cycled for years and owned numerous bikes before taking the plunge.

 I certainly fit into this category.



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Re: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Ron Mc
No offense, Jim, but I would be very surprised.  

Light-and-limber Bomba looks great.  

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:06:44 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Someday when the technology has proven itself, maybe we'll get a disc 
 brake Riv! Wheel size changes will be trivial!




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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-23 Thread René Sterental
Very nice setup. I didn't know there were 6cm stems; I'm running a 7 cm
Tallux stem but wish I could go shorter.

René

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, Michael wrote:

 Nice bike.
 Congratulations!


 What do you mean by old age. How did the longer stems effect you?
 I am thinking of going to a shorter stem myself.

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread Will
 I've always felt that shimmy was related to an unbalanced wheel. We 
routinely balance our automobile wheels, why would a bike be different? 

I think as we move to fatter tires (more mass) we will need to address the 
balance issue. I think the frame discussion is irrelevant. 

Will

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread Tim McNamara
Wheel balance on bikes is a red herring.  The mass differences are too small 
and the RPMs of a bike wheel are too slow.

I have another anecdote that I don't have time to write at this time (at work, 
should be working...) which should help demonstrate this.

On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've always felt that shimmy was related to an unbalanced wheel. We 
 routinely balance our automobile wheels, why would a bike be different? 
 
 I think as we move to fatter tires (more mass) we will need to address the 
 balance issue. I think the frame discussion is irrelevant. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-23 Thread keven@rivendell
Hello All!
Water is available at the camp site.

Cheers,

keven


On Monday, April 22, 2013 10:18:23 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:

 Hey Keven -- Does the camping site have water or do we need bring our own?
  
 Thanks,
 Reid
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread john
Well, after removing the tire from the new wheel, remounting the tire to 
ensure a perfect seal, and matching up the valve to the label for future 
testing, and ensuring that the wheel was perfectly centered in the fork, I 
got out for some more testing. 

One thing that has changed since my initial tests: I no longer provoke 
shimmy at a slow speed, only a decent clip. However, when descending a hill 
at moderate speed or fast speed, if I'm sitting upright with hands off the 
bars, my Sam Hillborne will dance. Frustrating.

Of course, Charlie is right: I could just right with my hands on the bars. 
But for me, riding no-handed down hills not only is relaxing, but a great 
joy. So at least for me, it's not an option. Or at least not one I'm 
willing to consider at this time.

And as others have suggested, i could ride without a saddlebag. But after 
using saddlebags for 20 years, I wouldn't even know how to ride without my 
beloved saddlebag. (And furthermore, although I'm sure a weighted saddlebag 
is a factor, I have not had any significant weight in my saddlebag 
throughout this discovery process. Not to mention when I ride the old wheel 
with the same saddlebag, I experience no shimmy.)

How to explain the initial shimmy at slow speeds and now only at higher 
speeds on a steeper hill? Perhaps the tire is seated better than initially. 
Perhaps the rubber of the tire has expanded over the course of a day. Who 
knows?

I guess the worst case scenario is I go back to my old wheel with fantastic 
new Jack Brown Greens. Wow, I love those tires! I was anticipating a let 
down, going from 35c Panaracer Pasellas to a skinny JB 33.3c. To the 
contrary, I'm really loving the tires and don't notice the width as being a 
factor. Time will tell about puncture resistance. But as far as ride 
quality, much improved on the JBs.

Thanks for everyone for sharing his opinions and anecdotes. Much, much 
appreciated. I will update this thread if and when I am able to solve the 
riddle. But I suspect I will just swap back to my old wheel for the time 
being and quit worrying about it.

If any of you out there is interested in a new Shimano Alfine generator hub 
on a new Syngery Velocity 32 spoke wheel, I may just be willing to part 
with it.

thanks again for sharing.
John


On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:12:08 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:

 Wheel balance on bikes is a red herring.  The mass differences are too 
 small and the RPMs of a bike wheel are too slow. 

 I have another anecdote that I don't have time to write at this time (at 
 work, should be working...) which should help demonstrate this. 

 On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Will waller@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 

   I've always felt that shimmy was related to an unbalanced wheel. We 
 routinely balance our automobile wheels, why would a bike be different? 
  
  I think as we move to fatter tires (more mass) we will need to address 
 the balance issue. I think the frame discussion is irrelevant. 


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Re: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 I was joking, of course, but there was murmuring in the early Bombadil 
days about the possibility of a disc brake option... I have no recollection 
about who was doing the murmuring.

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[RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread clayton


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-efZlLQqhjok/UXbcQGpczaI/AAs/Tcrh6V91Frs/s1600/IMG_0219.JPGhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HQDeJayE4VA/UXbb-lQExgI/AAk/56HjmKs0MP8/s1600/IMG_0222.JPG
This is my Atlantis I bought new in '98 or so. I recently rebuilt it with 
Deore XT 10 speed (9 speed rear derailleur to work with 10 speed bar end 
shifters), Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Nitto M-12 front, Nitto H20 cages, Salsa 
Woodchippers (my favorite bar yet, even though it took some dirt drop stem 
modification to get the sharp curves through the stem), XT V-brakes with 
Cane creek V-brake compatible brake levers and platform pedals that 
Rivendell sells. Also honey B-17 and a White Brothers suspension seat post 
(the best I have found yet, and I tried a BUNCH. Too bad they don't make 
them anymore). Fenders are Planet Bikes which are polycarbonate and seem to 
last much longer than the ESGs(?). The frame bag I made myself and is made 
from heavy green canvas. 

I had it built before with a proper Rivendell build, which was great for 
the past 12 years or so. Thought I would try something new. I love the new 
24-36 low gear for my bad knees and steep trails are easy now. Not too sure 
about platforms yet. They are great everywhere but on long rides and off 
road. I feel so naked on them, like I could get bucked off at the slightest 
bump. Not being able to bunny hop is weird too. 

This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money 
sucking car. This sucks up my money insteadlol.

Now I ask the groups wisdom. Do I paint the head tube ivory? Now it is 
solid powder coat gloss olive and looks utilitarian and off roady. I think 
it needs to be classed up a bit.

I have had three back surgeries and three carpal tunnel surgeries, hence 
the HIGH bars. 

Thanks for looking and thanks for your head tube advice in advance...
Clayton

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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Why not try a headtube color that approximates the honey of the saddle, the
panniers or the bar tape?


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:31 PM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-efZlLQqhjok/UXbcQGpczaI/AAs/Tcrh6V91Frs/s1600/IMG_0219.JPGhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HQDeJayE4VA/UXbb-lQExgI/AAk/56HjmKs0MP8/s1600/IMG_0222.JPG
 This is my Atlantis I bought new in '98 or so. I recently rebuilt it with
 Deore XT 10 speed (9 speed rear derailleur to work with 10 speed bar end
 shifters), Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Nitto M-12 front, Nitto H20 cages, Salsa
 Woodchippers (my favorite bar yet, even though it took some dirt drop stem
 modification to get the sharp curves through the stem), XT V-brakes with
 Cane creek V-brake compatible brake levers and platform pedals that
 Rivendell sells. Also honey B-17 and a White Brothers suspension seat post
 (the best I have found yet, and I tried a BUNCH. Too bad they don't make
 them anymore). Fenders are Planet Bikes which are polycarbonate and seem to
 last much longer than the ESGs(?). The frame bag I made myself and is made
 from heavy green canvas.

 I had it built before with a proper Rivendell build, which was great for
 the past 12 years or so. Thought I would try something new. I love the new
 24-36 low gear for my bad knees and steep trails are easy now. Not too sure
 about platforms yet. They are great everywhere but on long rides and off
 road. I feel so naked on them, like I could get bucked off at the slightest
 bump. Not being able to bunny hop is weird too.

 This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money
 sucking car. This sucks up my money insteadlol.

 Now I ask the groups wisdom. Do I paint the head tube ivory? Now it is
 solid powder coat gloss olive and looks utilitarian and off roady. I think
 it needs to be classed up a bit.

 I have had three back surgeries and three carpal tunnel surgeries, hence
 the HIGH bars.

 Thanks for looking and thanks for your head tube advice in advance...
 Clayton

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Clayton,
Looks like a super workhorse, military-spec, explorer bike. What a nice 
color your honey B-17 turned out.

I'd probably leave the color as is-- maybe put the head badge back on, or 
even get a custom one made. Maybe try Bosco hbars?

Happy riding, shoji



On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:31:50 PM UTC-4, clayton wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-efZlLQqhjok/UXbcQGpczaI/AAs/Tcrh6V91Frs/s1600/IMG_0219.JPGhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HQDeJayE4VA/UXbb-lQExgI/AAk/56HjmKs0MP8/s1600/IMG_0222.JPG
 This is my Atlantis I bought new in '98 or so. I recently rebuilt it with 
 Deore XT 10 speed (9 speed rear derailleur to work with 10 speed bar end 
 shifters), Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Nitto M-12 front, Nitto H20 cages, Salsa 
 Woodchippers (my favorite bar yet, even though it took some dirt drop stem 
 modification to get the sharp curves through the stem), XT V-brakes with 
 Cane creek V-brake compatible brake levers and platform pedals that 
 Rivendell sells. Also honey B-17 and a White Brothers suspension seat post 
 (the best I have found yet, and I tried a BUNCH. Too bad they don't make 
 them anymore). Fenders are Planet Bikes which are polycarbonate and seem to 
 last much longer than the ESGs(?). The frame bag I made myself and is made 
 from heavy green canvas. 

 I had it built before with a proper Rivendell build, which was great for 
 the past 12 years or so. Thought I would try something new. I love the new 
 24-36 low gear for my bad knees and steep trails are easy now. Not too sure 
 about platforms yet. They are great everywhere but on long rides and off 
 road. I feel so naked on them, like I could get bucked off at the slightest 
 bump. Not being able to bunny hop is weird too. 

 This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money 
 sucking car. This sucks up my money insteadlol.

 Now I ask the groups wisdom. Do I paint the head tube ivory? Now it is 
 solid powder coat gloss olive and looks utilitarian and off roady. I think 
 it needs to be classed up a bit.

 I have had three back surgeries and three carpal tunnel surgeries, hence 
 the HIGH bars. 

 Thanks for looking and thanks for your head tube advice in advance...
 Clayton


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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 14:37 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
 Why not try a headtube color that approximates the honey of the
 saddle, the panniers or the bar tape?

That saddle isn't going to stay that color very long.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread Will
I dunno... Jan Heine has this to say:

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/the-downsides-of-wide-tires/

Will

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:12:08 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:

 Wheel balance on bikes is a red herring.  The mass differences are too 
 small and the RPMs of a bike wheel are too slow. 

 I have another anecdote that I don't have time to write at this time (at 
 work, should be working...) which should help demonstrate this. 

 On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Will waller@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 

   I've always felt that shimmy was related to an unbalanced wheel. We 
 routinely balance our automobile wheels, why would a bike be different? 
  
  I think as we move to fatter tires (more mass) we will need to address 
 the balance issue. I think the frame discussion is irrelevant. 


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-23 Thread Brent
 Michael - Perhaps I should say  older age at 56 but the main reason is 
some deterioration in my neck so I need to be more upright as I just cannot 
stretch out as much.  I never did use a very long stem when I was younger, 
my  Sabatini originally came with a Cinelli 100mm but had to try a 80mm 
recently. It has a very short 55 cm top tube for a 58 cm frame ( C to C ) 
but has become an advantage. I much prefer the  Romulus though - it is a 
bit more stable although the Sabatini has fairly slack angles with 41 cm 
chain stays and was not twitchy as later designs tended to be. The Romulus 
is a nice alternative to the Bleriot and a Steelwool Tweed as I definitely 
find I can keep a faster pace overall. For years I had only one bike but so 
far like having a few with different ride characteristics and abilities. 
The 60 cm stem was found on ebay for a reasonable price.
 
On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in 
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto 
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano 
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt 
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The 
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be 
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell 
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-23 Thread Cecily Walker
I constantly scour Vancouver Craigslist for any mention of Rivendell bikes 
and have always come up empty handed. Congratulations on that find!

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in 
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto 
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano 
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt 
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The 
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be 
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell 
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Shimmy is typically very speed dependent.  When ride-buddy JimG was 
diagnosing his issue on a non-RBW bike, it shimmied in a very predictable 
pattern when using a front bag, rear load and unloaded.   ).  They were not 
equivalent speeds - 15, 18 and 21 mph IIRC.

It's also extremely center of gravity dependent.   I've seen it more with 
lighter, taller riders, and by sitting back and up, you are taking what 
little mass you have up off the pedals and pitching it back and behind.  
You might experiment slightly with the angle of your hips when you go no 
handed.  The reason I mention this is that I've found minor differences in 
how I sit makes a great deal of difference in where the COG is located.  
It's not important on my RBW bicycles, but I have an older fixed-gear bike 
where weight distribution is a lot more critical. 

My suggestion for removing the saddlebag was really one of identifying 
variables.  

As far as differing speeds on differing hills:  I'd go back to COG.  The 
steeper hill does effectively move it forward.  

On the Jack Browns, after I got my first pair, I had to really force myself 
to go back and use up the old Paselas... 
- Jim




On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:02:51 AM UTC-7, john wrote:

 Well, after removing the tire from the new wheel, remounting the tire to 
 ensure a perfect seal, and matching up the valve to the label for future 
 testing, and ensuring that the wheel was perfectly centered in the fork, I 
 got out for some more testing. 

 One thing that has changed since my initial tests: I no longer provoke 
 shimmy at a slow speed, only a decent clip. However, when descending a hill 
 at moderate speed or fast speed, if I'm sitting upright with hands off the 
 bars, my Sam Hillborne will dance. Frustrating.

 Of course, Charlie is right: I could just right with my hands on the bars. 
 But for me, riding no-handed down hills not only is relaxing, but a great 
 joy. So at least for me, it's not an option. Or at least not one I'm 
 willing to consider at this time.

 And as others have suggested, i could ride without a saddlebag. But after 
 using saddlebags for 20 years, I wouldn't even know how to ride without my 
 beloved saddlebag. (And furthermore, although I'm sure a weighted saddlebag 
 is a factor, I have not had any significant weight in my saddlebag 
 throughout this discovery process. Not to mention when I ride the old wheel 
 with the same saddlebag, I experience no shimmy.)

 How to explain the initial shimmy at slow speeds and now only at higher 
 speeds on a steeper hill? Perhaps the tire is seated better than initially. 
 Perhaps the rubber of the tire has expanded over the course of a day. Who 
 knows?

 I guess the worst case scenario is I go back to my old wheel with 
 fantastic new Jack Brown Greens. Wow, I love those tires! I was 
 anticipating a let down, going from 35c Panaracer Pasellas to a skinny JB 
 33.3c. To the contrary, I'm really loving the tires and don't notice the 
 width as being a factor. Time will tell about puncture resistance. But as 
 far as ride quality, much improved on the JBs.

 Thanks for everyone for sharing his opinions and anecdotes. Much, much 
 appreciated. I will update this thread if and when I am able to solve the 
 riddle. But I suspect I will just swap back to my old wheel for the time 
 being and quit worrying about it.

 If any of you out there is interested in a new Shimano Alfine generator 
 hub on a new Syngery Velocity 32 spoke wheel, I may just be willing to part 
 with it.

 thanks again for sharing.
 John


 On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:12:08 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:

 Wheel balance on bikes is a red herring.  The mass differences are too 
 small and the RPMs of a bike wheel are too slow. 

 I have another anecdote that I don't have time to write at this time (at 
 work, should be working...) which should help demonstrate this. 

 On Apr 23, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Will waller@gmail.com wrote: 

   I've always felt that shimmy was related to an unbalanced wheel. We 
 routinely balance our automobile wheels, why would a bike be different? 
  
  I think as we move to fatter tires (more mass) we will need to address 
 the balance issue. I think the frame discussion is irrelevant. 



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[RBW] FS - misc parts

2013-04-23 Thread Seth Vidal
I picked up a box of misc parts and sifted out the set of things I don't
really care about.

2 -  10sp cassettes one is 12-25 the other is 11 or 12 - 26.
 One of them has a missing lockring. $20 each

1 pair of crank bros eggbeaters pedals - good shape - $25

1 pair of crank bros candy c pedals - good shape - some scrapes $30

1 salsa moto-ace bell-lap bar - 26.0 clamp - I think it is 46cm wide - $35

1 Deda newton shallow drop bar - 31.7 clamp - 42cm wide - $40



Pictures here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/sets/72157633309632099/detail/

Shipping not included in pricing. Shipping will be whatever it costs to
ship to you from NC.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread hsmitham
Great color. It doesn't need a headtube color, though the Atlantis head badge 
is plenty classy. Awesome you don't own a car!

Best,

Hugh

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Technomic Deluxe/Tallux 9cm

2013-04-23 Thread Paul Y
Anyone have one in the garage? 

I am set up to send Paypal. One caveat is that I would need you to ship to 
Thailand. 

If you're looking for an 11 cm tallux, maybe we could trade? 

Paul

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[RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Aaron Young
I think it looks nice the way it is, but I also appreciate the cream head
tubes of the regular Atlantis paint scheme.  You could try putting masking
tape in the area where you would paint, and then step back a few yards to
get an idea of what a cream or ivory colored head tube might look like
against the olive green.  The more I imagine it, the more I like the idea
of the contrasting headtube.

-Aaron Young
Vancouver, WA

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 Great color. It doesn't need a headtube color, though the Atlantis head
 badge is plenty classy. Awesome you don't own a car!

 Best,

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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Peter Morgano
Nice bike, looks like a quality powder coat. I personally if it was all
built up would leave it. That hand made frame bag is the boss!
On Apr 23, 2013 7:38 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it looks nice the way it is, but I also appreciate the cream head
 tubes of the regular Atlantis paint scheme.  You could try putting masking
 tape in the area where you would paint, and then step back a few yards to
 get an idea of what a cream or ivory colored head tube might look like
 against the olive green.  The more I imagine it, the more I like the idea
 of the contrasting headtube.

 -Aaron Young
 Vancouver, WA

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 Great color. It doesn't need a headtube color, though the Atlantis head
 badge is plenty classy. Awesome you don't own a car!

 Best,

 Hugh

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[RBW] A new power option for touring and commuting. I really like this.

2013-04-23 Thread clayton
Check this out. What does everyone think? I see lots of advantages over a 
generator hub. It can be removed easily when not needed. All the 
electronics are already dialed, no need for extra stuff. Light, simple and 
hidden under your pannier

http://www.gizmag.com/siva-cycle-atom-phone-charger/27224/

Clayton 

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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread clayton
Great idea. I never would have thought of that.


On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:38:13 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:

 I think it looks nice the way it is, but I also appreciate the cream head 
 tubes of the regular Atlantis paint scheme.  You could try putting masking 
 tape in the area where you would paint, and then step back a few yards to 
 get an idea of what a cream or ivory colored head tube might look like 
 against the olive green.  The more I imagine it, the more I like the idea 
 of the contrasting headtube. 

 -Aaron Young
 Vancouver, WA

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 Great color. It doesn't need a headtube color, though the Atlantis head 
 badge is plenty classy. Awesome you don't own a car!

 Best,

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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread clayton


On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:38:13 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:

 I think it looks nice the way it is, but I also appreciate the cream head 
 tubes of the regular Atlantis paint scheme.  You could try putting masking 
 tape in the area where you would paint, and then step back a few yards to 
 get an idea of what a cream or ivory colored head tube might look like 
 against the olive green.  The more I imagine it, the more I like the idea 
 of the contrasting headtube. 

 -Aaron Young
 Vancouver, WA

 On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, hsmitham wrote:

 Great color. It doesn't need a headtube color, though the Atlantis head 
 badge is plenty classy. Awesome you don't own a car!

 Best,

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Re: [RBW] A new power option for touring and commuting. I really like this.

2013-04-23 Thread Peter Morgano
Not bad for what it does, but what it doesn't do is power lights like a
dynohub does. The Luxos U does both of these things, and is an amazing
light, from the tests online. I personally wouldn't buy anything from
someone who rides/endorses riding into a herd of people on the sidewalk
though, I just hate those people so much.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:32 PM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Check this out. What does everyone think? I see lots of advantages over a
 generator hub. It can be removed easily when not needed. All the
 electronics are already dialed, no need for extra stuff. Light, simple and
 hidden under your pannier

 http://www.gizmag.com/siva-cycle-atom-phone-charger/27224/

 Clayton

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

2013-04-23 Thread ted
I am fairly sure the clearance increased with the second generation of 
Bombadils.

On Monday, April 22, 2013 9:33:03 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:42:59 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:


 I have to admit, I'm now starting to wonder, just how big of a tire would 
 fit I think Rock-n-Roads would easily enough (might have to remove the 
 fenders though). But beyond that I'm now wondering if any 29er tires 
 would go 


 I happen to have a set of 29er wheels for rim brakes sitting in the 
 garage. I'll mount them up and see how they fit. Mine's a prototype so 
 yours might have more clearance.


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[RBW] Joe Bunik please contact me

2013-04-23 Thread Bertin753


Patrick Moore
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil experiment

2013-04-23 Thread Michael


 Very cool experiment!
 And you didn't even have to buy new brakes. So convenient!
  

Let us know how you like it after a while trying it out. 

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[RBW] Re: Understanding Silver Shifters video

2013-04-23 Thread Michael


 Oh, cool! Thanks for the tip. Great to know it can be easily replaced if 
 needed.


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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-23 Thread Reid
Hey Clayton -- Curious about the long, relatively narrow frame bag that you 
made. Is that just for as much general stuff as you can stuff in there, 
or is it fitted for something specific?  Nice setup. I like it! A real 
touring Atlantis.
 
Reid
 

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-23 Thread Reid
I once replaced a front wheel with a similar professionally built wheel 
on a road bike with 27 wheels. Suddenly the bike shimmied. After much 
aggravation, I found that the newly built wheel had settled in, meaning 
it had become the tiniest bit flexy. Another wheel builder tightened it 
up to spec and all was well.
 
Reid
 

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[RBW] wtb: Riv Rambouillet 58cm frameset (any color other than orange!)

2013-04-23 Thread Eric
Hey there! I'm looking for a 58cm Rambouillet in any color other than 
orange. Not picky on paint condition but nothing with dings/dents. 
Otherwise let's make a deal!! Thanks!! 

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[RBW] Spring Commutes

2013-04-23 Thread Brian Hanson
I've been riding the past few days in the nice sunny Seattle spring on my
Hunqa and Homer with some new combos.  Here are some pics of the current
iteration of the Hunqapillar with Midge bars and Resist Nomad tires.  I
like the Midges so far, and the best thing is they allow room for the large
Wald basket and large Shopsack combo that I was missing when I had the 42cm
Noodles on it.  The tires are, as mentioned, a nice large volume tire that
rolls well.  I took it down my favorite park dirt trail to test grip, and
they grip about as well as Jack Browns - i.e. if you need reliable
traction, look for more knobs.

pics: http://flic.kr/p/edH52P

On the Homer I put the GB Cypres tires back on.  Sublime...

Brian
Seattle, WA

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