Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[john]

I went out today hell-bent on proving a theory: namely, that my new wheel 
was the cause of shimmy. Unfortunately, I discovered something else again - 
perhaps my theory is incorrect. 

I set out with my old wheel and new tire. Saddlebag loaded with the usual 
suspects: (mini U-lock, tool kit, a few toe straps and bungees, a couple 
spare tubes). The saddle bag isn't light (Baggins Adam). I'm guessing the 
bag plus goods weighs roughly 5 pounds. Could be more, I dunno. Never 
weighed the kit, never wanted to.

Climbed a good 1000' hill in my neck of the woods, to the top of my 
immediate valley. Thence, the descent. I wanted to see if I could reproduce 
the shimmy I'd experienced yesterday with the new wheel, but this time, 
with the old wheel.

As a matter of fact, I did reproduce shimmy in the old wheel. Doggawnit! 
The shimmy was not nearly as fierce as that with the new wheel (which is 
rater scary), but it is subtly present. As in, I need to grab the top tube 
with my knees to make things right. With the new wheel, i need to grab the 
wheel with my knees to make things partly right, then grab hold of the bars 
with my hands.

I have been very happy with my Sam HIll. But If there were one thing I 
would change about it, I'd ditch the 6% upsloping top tube. This is purely 
from aesthetical considerations. However, I'm wondering now if samh doesn't 
have something right when he speaks of large frames needing extra stiffness 
to ward off shimmy. Maybe (and I hope I'm wrong) my 60 cm frame, with very 
tall head tube, is flexy enough to produce shimmy when a skinny guy like me 
descends a steep hill, sitting up, without weight over the front of the 
bike.

Tomorrow I'm going out again, with the old wheel, new tire, and no 
saddlebag. That is to say, no additional weight of any kind, other than my 
150#, front and rear racks, Zefal pump, and a couple of water bottles. Oh, 
and an "under saddle" bag which I usually just toss nonchalantly in my 
capacious saddlebag because why not? Maybe I'll not be able to produce 
shimmy? I doubt it, but I can hope. I really don't want the bike's 
fleeciness and height to be the cause of this problem. 

(Granted, the shimmy with the old wheel is not severe, and it's something I 
can live with, but I'd much rather not.)


On Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:03:48 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Crosswinds are a different animal.  Probably deserve a separate thread. 
>
> I was actually working on a blog post about that, following the very windy 
> ride of a couple weeks ago.  Overheard several conversations which included 
> advice on how to deal with crosswinds that was at best wrong, at worst 
> dangerous.  
>
> - J
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:43:23 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> I ride where it is very windy (a lot of cross winds) and do get what you 
>> are describing, but its not so much a shimmy as it is an 
>> "unsteadiness"--damn I wish there was some book of bicycle verbiage out 
>> there!
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Riv Rambouillet 58cm frameset (any color other than orange!)

[hsmitham]

No Orange! What the heck, that's one of the best of all colors :-)

Hugh

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 10:16:00 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:
>
> Hey there! I'm looking for a 58cm Rambouillet in any color other than 
> orange. Not picky on paint condition but nothing with dings/dents. 
> Otherwise let's make a deal!! Thanks!! 
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[RBW] Re: wtb: Riv Rambouillet 58cm frameset (any color other than orange!)

[Eric]

Hey Steve, I emailed you...at least I think so. I'm not doing so hot w/ the 
"new" look of the group!

- Eric

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:36:16 AM UTC-5, Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
> I have a blue 58 cm Ram which has been living alongside its AHH 
> "replacement" for three years now. I've been enjoying it as my fair-weather 
> road bike, but as my significant other keeps reminding me, it is a little 
> redundant, not to say extravagant to keep both. So... I could be talked out 
> of it.
> Steve

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Brian Hanson]

 Hmmm - 5+ different bar combos in one year?  Check!  Let's not stop there
- I also see multiple harlequin wraps, wood fenders, buncha tires, classic
Hunqa paint?  I applaud this guy!  We are souls separated by geography.
 Welcome!

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Thursday, April 25, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> If you check out the Suntour website you'll see some of Toshi's shots.
> Don't ask me how I know this I'm just super Flickr stalker.
> -manny
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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[dougP]

My Atlantis recently celebrated its 10th birthday, and has only been sans 
rack for short periods of time.  I really like the look of the bike without 
all the clutter of racks'n'bags, but reality sets in.  I just never know 
when I need to bring home a few lasagnas or take a large package to the 
PO.  A properly equipped bicycle can bring home more stuff than it left 
with.  The beauty of a small bag with a large rack is you have lots of room 
to carry other stuff, and you may be able to mount panniers without 
disturbing the bag.  

dougP (overthinking racks'n'bags for decades now)

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:31:24 PM UTC-7, djbardwil wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the compliments, and the bag/rack overkill comment made 
> me laugh - evoked the image of a small hat on a big head!  That rack is 
> there for other duty when other duty calls...
>
> Norman - with any more luck, next year we will meet on the next annual 
> Delaware Water Gap trip!  
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:
>>
>> Your device has to know you're a member of the Rivendell flicker group 
>> (or you have to sign in) to view the photo.  I love the way this bike 
>> looks.  Of course, it is very similar to my Hillborne which is painted, 
>> with no intent to deceive, the same Atlantis color:  
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/8652765924/in/set-72157633249441487. 
>>  Shown also in the wilds of New Jersey. 
>> Best of luck with the bike, though you already had some of that in 
>> finding it,
>> Norman  
>>
>> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>>>
>>> I get that message on my IPad..
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring Commutes

[Brian Hanson]

So far so good. Only the second season, but I wipe them down after they go 
through a squall. 

Mobile Brian Hanson

On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:

> Handsome bikes!  I really like the front rack set-up on the Hunqa.  How do 
> those wooden fenders do on wet days in Rain City?
> 
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:34:03 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:
>> 
>> It's a semi custom rack made by a local Seattle builder for the Rawland 
>> rSogn.  
>> 
>> http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html
>> 
>> Brian
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Edwin W  wrote:
 What is the front rack under the basket?
>>> 
>>> Edwin 
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[RBW] Bump: FS: Union bottle dynamo set: bottle, halogen headlamp, rear lamp

[PATRICK MOORE]

Just in case some didn't see it.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> It works fine. All wired up and ready to install. Bracket fits right hand
> seat stay. $36 shipped CONUS.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'd be interested to hear your evaluation of the Lizard Skin tape. What
thickness are you using?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM, john muhl  wrote:

> I had cork under cotton and really liked it. Today I switched that out
> with the medium thickness Lizard Skins but haven't had a chance for an
> extended ride yet; initial reaction is positive. At least in my limited
> circle I've noticed chunkier wrap and gloveless riding seem to go hand in
> hand (so to speak).
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:42:46 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see
>> are super chunky.
>> Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
>> Thanks for any tips.
>>
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[john muhl]

I had cork under cotton and really liked it. Today I switched that out with 
the medium thickness Lizard Skins but haven't had a chance for an extended 
ride yet; initial reaction is positive. At least in my limited circle I've 
noticed chunkier wrap and gloveless riding seem to go hand in hand (so to 
speak).

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:42:46 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see 
> are super chunky.
> Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
> Thanks for any tips.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Atlantis

[dougP]

Weth:

If your wife likes the color, be prepared to buy an Atlantis as soon as she 
rides one.  My wife & I stumbled into a 47 cm Atlantis a couple of years 
ago.  She wasn't thinking about a new bike & went along to humor me.  After 
about 5 minutes riding around a parking lot, she returned with a big grin 
on her face & said "I WANT THIS BIKE!".  She's not a bike nerd & thought my 
infatuation with Rivendell was harmless.  Little did she know

Enjoy your new ride!

dougP

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:31:15 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> Matt, the frame, fork, stem, and touch up paint arrived safely today. 
>  Thanks for a great transaction.  I felt like a kid opening the coolest 
> looking Christmas present. 
> My wife had a dubious look on her face as I unpacked the box.  In her 
> defense, our screened porch contains my Surly LHT, 1975/76 Motobecane, a 
> bike my 13 year old son and I are building up together for him, and all the 
> parts and tools needed for that build.  I really have no need for another 
> bike, but I have wanted an Atlantis for several years.  However, when my 
> wife saw the frame her expression changed, and she exclaimed, "Wow! That is 
> classic looking.  I love the color.  I would like to ride a bike that 
> color!" Fortunatley for me, the bike is not her size. :)  Although there 
> may be a Riv in her future.
> I will be patiently thinking through the build and collecting the right 
> parts; so it will be longer than I would like before I get the bike on the 
> road.  Plus, I have to complete my son's bike,first.  Thanks again and safe 
> cycling.

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Re: [RBW] New Soma San Marcos owner and pictures

[hsmitham]

Hey Joe,

My Brother has a San Marcos with a Campy Athena build, Velo Orange ( I 
think?) Grand Cru touring wheel set, Nitto, stem, seat post and noodles and 
he loves it. He say's it handles awesome and is very sprightly.

Hugh
Sunland, CA


On Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:21:13 AM UTC-7, Joe Hogg wrote:
>
> On 04/17/2013 10:30 PM, Fai Mao wrote: 
> > Greetings 
> > 
> > After a 5 week delay to get most of the parts the San Marcos is on the 
> > road. 
> > 
> > I was looking for a less slow bike than the Mongoose grocery bike and 
> > the Sam Hillborne is in Hong Kong with the family. When this contract 
> > is up in 18 months I'll take the Soma back with me. 
> > 
> > This is not a very retro build. 
> > 
> > Frame and Fork: Soma San Marcos 54 CM 
> > 
> > Components 
> > Headset: Campagnolo Record 
> > Seat Post: Generic 
> > Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal 
> > Stem: Dirt Drop 80 CM 
> > Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce Flat bar 10/speed 
> > Bars: Nitto flat & straight I do not know the number 
> > Crank: Centaur compact 170-50/34 
> > Cassette: Camagnolo 12-30 10/speed 
> > Derailleurs: Campagnolo Veloce medium cage rear QS front 
> > Chain KMC 10 speed 
> > Brakes Tektro long reach 
> > Wheels Campagnolo: Vento Reaction CX 
> > Tires: Continental Gator Skins 700X28 
> > 
> > The bike weighs in at just over 22 pounds 
> > At this point the only thing I'd change is to get a Campy triple up 
> > front. I have a very bad knee and need a bit lower gears 
> > 
> > Notes: 
> > 1. The photos show a temporary crank that was installed until I got 
> > the Campy one in 
> > 2. The tires have also been replace with the 700X28's 
> > 
> > I am an awful photographer so excuse the poor pictures 
> > 
> > http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Phil_hk/slideshow/Bicycle/Soma 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: FS 58 Atlantis with couplers

[eflayer]

two things. that link is to photos that don't look rivish or even bikeish. 
and are you including travel case and accessories.
 

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54:23 PM UTC-7, Steve Brent wrote:

> Custom black Atlantis with top-line components
>
> Some may recognize this as Jim Thill's old bike, he has no responsibility 
> for this sale. This bike has all the great components he put on it. Has S&S 
> couplers to allow breaking it down. If it doesn't sell, I will part out, 
> but please take this baby off my hands :)
>
> Velocity Aerohead rims with a Phil Wood cassette rear hub (36h with asym 
> rim) and Phil Wood front hub (32h)
> Paul Neo-Retro Cantilever brakes
> Riv Albatross Bars (also can include VO Porteur Bars and a custom Syntace 
> Bullhorn Bar)
> Vintage XT motorcycle brake levers
> Ultegra 9sp cassette
> 960 series XTR rear derailleur (no front derailleur)
> 9sp Dura Ace shifter
> Sugino XD crank with 38t ring and Sugino 24t or 26t ring and Salsa 
> chainguard
> Technomic stem (tall, with 10-11cm extension) & CrMo Albatross bar
> Ritchey cable couplers
> Cascadia fenders
> SRAM chain
> Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700x39 tires with good tread
> Minoura kickstand
> Riv Atlantis Emblem Plate
> Nitto Big Back Rack
> Brooks black sprung saddle or a Brooks tan aged saddle (or a Selle 
> Anatomica Cydesdale waterproof saddle for $75 extra)
> Bike is in excellent condition. Located in Washington DC area. Willing to 
> ship. 
>
> $2200. Please email me at wardbrent@hotmail(dot)com
>
> Pics: 
> http://s1296.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dwerby/library/#/user/Dwerby/library/Dads%20Bikes?&_suid=136158228250604888703538160445

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Manuel Acosta]

If you check out the Suntour website you'll see some of Toshi's shots. Don't 
ask me how I know this I'm just super Flickr stalker.
-manny

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[RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[Michael]

>
> Nice bike! Thanks for sharing. Enjoy!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Crosswinds are a different animal.  Probably deserve a separate thread. 

I was actually working on a blog post about that, following the very windy 
ride of a couple weeks ago.  Overheard several conversations which included 
advice on how to deal with crosswinds that was at best wrong, at worst 
dangerous.  

- J

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:43:23 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> I ride where it is very windy (a lot of cross winds) and do get what you 
> are describing, but its not so much a shimmy as it is an 
> "unsteadiness"--damn I wish there was some book of bicycle verbiage out 
> there!
>
>
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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Swza]

Hi  Bill,
I was thinking about the p clips.  It definitely has a very clean look to 
it.  Thanks for the help.

Jeff
Denver

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:44:22 AM UTC-6, Bill Lucas wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> I have a 64 cm Ram with a VO Randonneur Front Rack with Integrated 
> Decaleur and a Lone Peak H-100 "Alta" Handlebar Pack.  I used P clips for 
> the rack.  The bag is standard height.  This works for me because I have 
> STI and can't read the map case without my glasses.
>
> The Ram is a great bike.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Lucas
> Watsonville, CA
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:00:12 AM UTC-7, Swza wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a 
>> tall handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large 
>> (64cm).  My handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure 
>> if there is a decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a 
>> bag.  I was looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was 
>> curious if the VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>>
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
>> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Denver 
>>
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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Swza]

Thanks a lot Ron.  I actually tried to buy the Acorn tall rando bag 
yesterday but was too slow.  Those are hard to get a hold of.  I go to the 
Rene Herse shop quite a bit so I'll take my bike and try it out.  Thanks 
for the info.

Jeff
Denver

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:17:53 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> ps - this is using the Acorn tall rando bag, which is the same height as 
> the Bertoud 28 bag, and I have 15-16cm of stem above the headset.  
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:54:55 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Not a Riv frame, but a tall vintage Raleigh - essentially 64cm - a tall 
>> 11-liter rando bag on mini Nitto front rack with Bertoud 121mm horizontal 
>> decaleur.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> Decaleur came from Boulder cycles (renehersestore.com).  The decaleurs 
>> come in 91mm and 121mm.  I determined the correct length of the decaleur up 
>> front, by measuring the bag height above my rack, handwaving that spot in 
>> space, then measured distance from the stem bolt to the hand-waving spot. 
>>  Nailed it pretty well, in the end, it required about a quarter-inch drop 
>> on my handlebar stem to flat the bag on the rack.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> Very happy with this hardware.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, Swza wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a 
>>> tall handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large 
>>> (64cm).  My handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure 
>>> if there is a decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a 
>>> bag.  I was looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was 
>>> curious if the VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>>>
>>>
>>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
>>> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Denver 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] FS : Nitto Campee F/R rack set $350

[samwell187]

Hi everybody,

I'm selling a set of Nitto Campee front and rear racks for $350 
shipped. These are basically not used, and in more or less mint condition. 
Some pics of new ones here:
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2290

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13331

If you're interested, I can snap some photos of mine.


Thanks,

Sam

AA, MI

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Swza]

Hi Ron,
I forgot to ask, will the Bertoud horizontal decaleur work with the Nitto 
Delux stems you think?  Thanks

Jeff
Denver

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:54:55 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Not a Riv frame, but a tall vintage Raleigh - essentially 64cm - a tall 
> 11-liter rando bag on mini Nitto front rack with Bertoud 121mm horizontal 
> decaleur.  
>
> 
>
> Decaleur came from Boulder cycles (renehersestore.com).  The decaleurs 
> come in 91mm and 121mm.  I determined the correct length of the decaleur up 
> front, by measuring the bag height above my rack, handwaving that spot in 
> space, then measured distance from the stem bolt to the hand-waving spot. 
>  Nailed it pretty well, in the end, it required about a quarter-inch drop 
> on my handlebar stem to flat the bag on the rack.  
>
> 
>
> Very happy with this hardware.  
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, Swza wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a 
>> tall handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large 
>> (64cm).  My handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure 
>> if there is a decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a 
>> bag.  I was looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was 
>> curious if the VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>>
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
>> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Denver 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Geoff Cisler]

Ron, 
thanks for the nice write-up.  

Do you have issues with reaching into the handlebar bag and having the 
bottom be really far away.  For example, while riding, could you reach a 
ClifBar that had gone to the bottom?  Also, do you mind the top of the bag 
not being close to the handlebar height?  I normally ride a 66-68cm frame, 
and have still not figure out a great method.  Currently, I'm using an 
Ortlieb KlickFix handlebar mount which is a good size, the reach is shallow 
and is easily accessible, but it still wobbles around a bit while riding.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpbikeresearch/8498690332/in/photostream

Geoff
Boston, MA

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[RBW] FS 58 Atlantis with couplers

[Steve Brent]

Custom black Atlantis with top-line components

Some may recognize this as Jim Thill's old bike, he has no responsibility 
for this sale. This bike has all the great components he put on it. Has S&S 
couplers to allow breaking it down. If it doesn't sell, I will part out, 
but please take this baby off my hands :)

Velocity Aerohead rims with a Phil Wood cassette rear hub (36h with asym 
rim) and Phil Wood front hub (32h)
Paul Neo-Retro Cantilever brakes
Riv Albatross Bars (also can include VO Porteur Bars and a custom Syntace 
Bullhorn Bar)
Vintage XT motorcycle brake levers
Ultegra 9sp cassette
960 series XTR rear derailleur (no front derailleur)
9sp Dura Ace shifter
Sugino XD crank with 38t ring and Sugino 24t or 26t ring and Salsa 
chainguard
Technomic stem (tall, with 10-11cm extension) & CrMo Albatross bar
Ritchey cable couplers
Cascadia fenders
SRAM chain
Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700x39 tires with good tread
Minoura kickstand
Riv Atlantis Emblem Plate
Nitto Big Back Rack
Brooks black sprung saddle or a Brooks tan aged saddle (or a Selle 
Anatomica Cydesdale waterproof saddle for $75 extra)
Bike is in excellent condition. Located in Washington DC area. Willing to 
ship. 

$2200. Please email me at wardbrent@hotmail(dot)com

Pics: 
http://s1296.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dwerby/library/#/user/Dwerby/library/Dads%20Bikes?&_suid=136158228250604888703538160445

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Jim M.]

Welcome! Your bike looks great and I look forward to seeing ride pictures 
from Japan.

jim m
wc ca

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:17:38 AM UTC-7, Takashi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
> first time to introduce myself.
> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>
> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
> informations.
> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>
> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/
>
> Takashi
>
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[RBW] Introduction

[NWAJack]

Welcome!

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Robert F. Harrison]

Super looking bike...super places to ride...what more could you want? :-)

Welcome to the group.

Aloha,

Bob


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Takashi  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the
> first time to introduce myself.
> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>
> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and
> informations.
> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of
> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>
> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/
>
> Takashi
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Atlantis

[WETH]

Matt, the frame, fork, stem, and touch up paint arrived safely today.  Thanks 
for a great transaction.  I felt like a kid opening the coolest looking 
Christmas present. 
My wife had a dubious look on her face as I unpacked the box.  In her defense, 
our screened porch contains my Surly LHT, 1975/76 Motobecane, a bike my 13 year 
old son and I are building up together for him, and all the parts and tools 
needed for that build.  I really have no need for another bike, but I have 
wanted an Atlantis for several years.  However, when my wife saw the frame her 
expression changed, and she exclaimed, "Wow! That is classic looking.  I love 
the color.  I would like to ride a bike that color!" Fortunatley for me, the 
bike is not her size. :)  Although there may be a Riv in her future.
I will be patiently thinking through the build and collecting the right parts; 
so it will be longer than I would like before I get the bike on the road.  
Plus, I have to complete my son's bike,first.  Thanks again and safe cycling.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[cyclotourist]

Looks like you're using that bike in the intended manner!!!

Cheers,
David



On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  Takashi:  I’ve been admiring your pics of your bike on the Flickr group
> for some time – it’s a beauty!  Welcome to the group.  Tom
>
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> *Subject:* [RBW] Introduction
>
> ** **
>
> Hi all,
> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the
> first time to introduce myself.
> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>
> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and
> informations.
> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of
> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>
> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/
>
> Takashi
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[Michael]

>
> @Mojo:
> What extension stem is that on the Atlantis? Looks like 5 or 6 cm?
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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[djbardwil]

Thanks to all for the compliments, and the bag/rack overkill comment made 
me laugh - evoked the image of a small hat on a big head!  That rack is 
there for other duty when other duty calls...

Norman - with any more luck, next year we will meet on the next annual 
Delaware Water Gap trip!  




On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:
>
> Your device has to know you're a member of the Rivendell flicker group (or 
> you have to sign in) to view the photo.  I love the way this bike looks. 
>  Of course, it is very similar to my Hillborne which is painted, with no 
> intent to deceive, the same Atlantis color:  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/8652765924/in/set-72157633249441487. 
>  Shown also in the wilds of New Jersey. 
> Best of luck with the bike, though you already had some of that in finding 
> it,
> Norman  
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>>
>> I get that message on my IPad..
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RE: [RBW] Introduction

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Takashi:  I've been admiring your pics of your bike on the Flickr group for 
some time - it's a beauty!  Welcome to the group.  Tom

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Takashi
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Introduction

Hi all,
I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the first 
time to introduce myself.
I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
informations.
I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of English, 
and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

Photos of my Hunqapillar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

Takashi
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[Ryan]

Cinelli Cork...and  my X0-1  and A/R have  sone foam cutouts on the 
underside of the swept back part of the bar. So I don't use gloves, 
usually. On my PX-10 SS it's just cotton tape from VO. In that case I wear 
gloves. I need a some padding. Not much, but some
 
New M-bar prototype looks intriguing; I may order then when they come in. 
Funny about moustaches, people either love 'em or hate 'em. I don't do as 
many longer 50+ rides as I used to twenty years ago when I first got my 
X0-1 and my experience then was that for longer rides of 50+ miles, I 
preferred drops.I have the old "Dream Bars" on my road bike...not sure 
whether I'll switch to moustachesor maybe I should give those Noodles a 
shot.Still thinking about it but have not ridden my road Riv as much.
On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:42:46 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

> I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see 
> are super chunky.
> Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
> Thanks for any tips.
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[Mojo]

I think M'bars are great. I rode them for awhile and decided they just need 
a few tweeks. The first idea was to add some dummy levers like Michael did 
here 
https://plus.google.com/photos/103981529889931022618/albums/5673817453958735041?banner=pwa
But the dummies weren't quite as good as just a longer flat portion of the 
bar near the stem. And I missed a flat ramp that flows into the brake 
levers. And I wanted more of a drop when in the drops. Finally it would be 
good if these re-designed bars would be maybe $15 cheaper. Eventually I 
found this improved bar, here it is!
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb1.htm

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring Commutes

[Tom Goodmann]

Handsome bikes!  I really like the front rack set-up on the Hunqa.  How do 
those wooden fenders do on wet days in Rain City?

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:34:03 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:
>
> It's a semi custom rack made by a local Seattle builder for the Rawland 
> rSogn.  
>
> http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html
>
> Brian
> Seattle, WA
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Edwin W 
> > wrote:
>
>> What is the front rack under the basket?
>>
>>
>> Edwin 
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I don't like that there are no comfortable hand positions. Other than that, 
they're great.

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:35:42 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
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> @Jim,
>>  
>>
> What is it about 'staches you don't like?
>  
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[Michael]

>
> @Jim,
>  
>
What is it about 'staches you don't like?
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[Steve Palincsar]

On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 22:59 -0700, samh wrote:
> I have two road bikes and they both shimmy, so I sort of feel like a
> crash test dummy for the shimmy phenomena.  Wind seems to makes things
> worse as do imperfections in the road surface.  My racing bike has
> tried to kill me on occasion.  My Rivendell scares me when it starts
> to shimmy, but it doesn't approach the level of violence that my
> racing bike exhibits.  I can keep riding my Rivendell at the same
> speed when it starts to shimmy and not crash.  Although, with both
> bikes the shimmy scares me enough that I rapidly scrub speed until the
> shimmy stops.  On my racing bike that usually means scrubbing speed
> from ~40mph to under 15mph while I hang on for dear life.

The usual cures for speed wobble involve getting your butt up off the
saddle a little, and clamping the top tube with your knees.  Have you
ever tried those remedies?




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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[Norman R]

Your device has to know you're a member of the Rivendell flicker group (or 
you have to sign in) to view the photo.  I love the way this bike looks. 
 Of course, it is very similar to my Hillborne which is painted, with no 
intent to deceive, the same Atlantis color:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/8652765924/in/set-72157633249441487. 
 Shown also in the wilds of New Jersey. 
Best of luck with the bike, though you already had some of that in finding 
it,
Norman  

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
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> I get that message on my IPad..

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[WETH]

You have a beautiful bike!  Thanks for sharing the great photographs. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[WETH]

I get that message on my IPad..

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Kellie Stapleton]

Welcome! Love my Riv too. Got it in Feb.

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Ron Mc]

Have the same VO rack on my daughter's bike and we use the decaleur to 
attach a rattan basket, for which it works great.  
But think about this for your 12-liter bag -  the entire vertical mass of 
your loaded bag would act in torsion on the your fork bolt, and gravity 
would help (in a bad way).  You need a secondary attachment point - either 
the stem-mounted decaleur or the headset-mounted decaleur.  

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:44:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lucas wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> I have a 64 cm Ram with a VO Randonneur Front Rack with Integrated 
> Decaleur and a Lone Peak H-100 "Alta" Handlebar Pack.  I used P clips for 
> the rack.  The bag is standard height.  This works for me because I have 
> STI and can't read the map case without my glasses.
>
> The Ram is a great bike.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Lucas
> Watsonville, CA
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:00:12 AM UTC-7, Swza wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a 
>> tall handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large 
>> (64cm).  My handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure 
>> if there is a decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a 
>> bag.  I was looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was 
>> curious if the VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>>
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
>> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Denver 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

[PeterG]

Erl, I tried to contact you offline, but it didn't workcontact 
me...Thanks...PeterG

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:29:25 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> Peter, if Hugh doesn't end up buying them, I am interested in buying the 
> bars, brakes and interrupters.
> Many thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[David Spranger]

Very nice. Love the Woody's fenders. I have a set on my A. Homer Hilsen.

David

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:17:38 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
> first time to introduce myself.
> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>
> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
> informations.
> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>
> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/
>
> Takashi
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[Peter Morgano]

I got that message on my phone but not on my PC, strange.


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> When I click on your link I get this message:
>
> This photo is private.
>
> Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.
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> Here's a link back to your home page .
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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[Peter Morgano]

I ride where it is very windy (a lot of cross winds) and do get what you
are describing, but its not so much a shimmy as it is an
"unsteadiness"--damn I wish there was some book of bicycle verbiage out
there!


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM, samh  wrote:

> I have two road bikes and they both shimmy, so I sort of feel like a crash
> test dummy for the shimmy phenomena.  Wind seems to makes things worse as
> do imperfections in the road surface.  My racing bike has tried to kill me
> on occasion.  My Rivendell scares me when it starts to shimmy, but it
> doesn't approach the level of violence that my racing bike exhibits.  I can
> keep riding my Rivendell at the same speed when it starts to shimmy and not
> crash.  Although, with both bikes the shimmy scares me enough that I
> rapidly scrub speed until the shimmy stops.  On my racing bike that usually
> means scrubbing speed from ~40mph to under 15mph while I hang on for dear
> life.
>
> I ride large frames and I attribute the shimmy to the greater flex in the
> longer tubes.  Based on my experiences, I believe tubes need to be stiffer
> as frames get larger.  Using the same tube set on a 56cm and a 65cm frame
> seems problematic to me.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

[Peter Morgano]

Are those Woody's Compound Curve fenders? Really sharp looking bike.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Welcome, Takashi. Great to see you here. Our Hunqas are the same age.
> Wonderful do everything bikes! I love your wood fenders and you live in
> gorgeous country.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:17:38 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the
>> first time to introduce myself.
>> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>>
>> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and
>> informations.
>> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of
>> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>>
>> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**77318553@N08/sets/**72157629584056500/
>>
>> Takashi
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Deacon Patrick]

Welcome, Takashi. Great to see you here. Our Hunqas are the same age. 
Wonderful do everything bikes! I love your wood fenders and you live in 
gorgeous country.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:17:38 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
> first time to introduce myself.
> I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.
>
> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
> informations.
> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
> English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.
>
> Photos of my Hunqapillar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/
>
> Takashi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[samh]

I have two road bikes and they both shimmy, so I sort of feel like a crash 
test dummy for the shimmy phenomena.  Wind seems to makes things worse as 
do imperfections in the road surface.  My racing bike has tried to kill me 
on occasion.  My Rivendell scares me when it starts to shimmy, but it 
doesn't approach the level of violence that my racing bike exhibits.  I can 
keep riding my Rivendell at the same speed when it starts to shimmy and not 
crash.  Although, with both bikes the shimmy scares me enough that I 
rapidly scrub speed until the shimmy stops.  On my racing bike that usually 
means scrubbing speed from ~40mph to under 15mph while I hang on for dear 
life.

I ride large frames and I attribute the shimmy to the greater flex in the 
longer tubes.  Based on my experiences, I believe tubes need to be stiffer 
as frames get larger.  Using the same tube set on a 56cm and a 65cm frame 
seems problematic to me.

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[RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[samh]

When I click on your link I get this message:

This photo is private.

Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.

Here's a link back to your home page .




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[RBW] f.s. cleaning out the basement

[dylan alverson]

The superbe pro seat post is 26.8 and the Mercian is a 56 ctt seat tube
The stem and Phil wheel have new owners

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[RBW] Introduction

[Takashi]

Hi all,
I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
first time to introduce myself.
I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
informations.
I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

Photos of my Hunqapillar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

Takashi

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Bill Lucas]

Jeff,

I have a 64 cm Ram with a VO Randonneur Front Rack with Integrated Decaleur 
and a Lone Peak H-100 "Alta" Handlebar Pack.  I used P clips for the rack.  
The bag is standard height.  This works for me because I have STI and can't 
read the map case without my glasses.

The Ram is a great bike.

Regards,
Bill Lucas
Watsonville, CA


On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:00:12 AM UTC-7, Swza wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a tall 
> handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large (64cm).  My 
> handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure if there is a 
> decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a bag.  I was 
> looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was curious if the 
> VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>
> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>
> Jeff
> Denver 
>

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Ron Mc]

ps - this is using the Acorn tall rando bag, which is the same height as 
the Bertoud 28 bag, and I have 15-16cm of stem above the headset.  

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:54:55 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Not a Riv frame, but a tall vintage Raleigh - essentially 64cm - a tall 
> 11-liter rando bag on mini Nitto front rack with Bertoud 121mm horizontal 
> decaleur.  
>
> 
>
> Decaleur came from Boulder cycles (renehersestore.com).  The decaleurs 
> come in 91mm and 121mm.  I determined the correct length of the decaleur up 
> front, by measuring the bag height above my rack, handwaving that spot in 
> space, then measured distance from the stem bolt to the hand-waving spot. 
>  Nailed it pretty well, in the end, it required about a quarter-inch drop 
> on my handlebar stem to flat the bag on the rack.  
>
> 
>
> Very happy with this hardware.  
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, Swza wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a 
>> tall handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large 
>> (64cm).  My handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure 
>> if there is a decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a 
>> bag.  I was looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was 
>> curious if the VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>>
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
>> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Denver 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

[Ron Mc]

Not a Riv frame, but a tall vintage Raleigh - essentially 64cm - a tall 
11-liter rando bag on mini Nitto front rack with Bertoud 121mm horizontal 
decaleur.  



Decaleur came from Boulder cycles (renehersestore.com).  The decaleurs come 
in 91mm and 121mm.  I determined the correct length of the decaleur up 
front, by measuring the bag height above my rack, handwaving that spot in 
space, then measured distance from the stem bolt to the hand-waving spot. 
 Nailed it pretty well, in the end, it required about a quarter-inch drop 
on my handlebar stem to flat the bag on the rack.  



Very happy with this hardware.  





On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, Swza wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a tall 
> handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large (64cm).  My 
> handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure if there is a 
> decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a bag.  I was 
> looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was curious if the 
> VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  
>
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html
>
> Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
> bag?  Thanks a lot.
>
> Jeff
> Denver 
>

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

[WETH]

Peter, if Hugh doesn't end up buying them, I am interested in buying the bars, 
brakes and interrupters.
Many thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

[WETH]

Peter, if Hugh doesn't end up buying them, I am interested in buying the bars, 
brakes and interrupters.
Many thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

[Pondero]

I ran the Grand Bois Cerf (green) at 28-29mm on that frame before I sold it 
to Hugh.  Wonderful tires.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/6418251107/in/set-72157627594138974/

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[Michael Hechmer]

I would 2nd the suggestion to check the head set.  Even if it feels ok 
tighten it a smidge.
michael

On Monday, April 22, 2013 12:37:40 PM UTC-4, Tonester wrote:
>
> You might try making sure your headset is adjusted properly.
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2013 8:46:59 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Try swapping the JB front tire for the Pasela.  Could be a minor defect 
>> in the tire.  
>>
>> You've already spent considerable time & money, but my Atlantis had a 
>> shimmy that I never really isolated.  The roller bearing headset that 
>> Rivendell sells seems to have cured the problem.  This of course involves a 
>> lot of work so don't bother until you've worked thru all the easier 
>> suggestions.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:46:47 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All. 
>>>
>>> I thought I'd get some ideas on a recent shimmy development. Here is the 
>>> scenario:
>>>
>>> Rider specs:
>>> John
>>> Height: 5'11"
>>> Weight: 150 soaking wet
>>> PBH: 88.9
>>> SH: apprx 78.5 cm
>>>
>>> I ride a 60 cm. Sam HIll. 
>>>
>>> I Never experienced shimmy with the stock build:  Shimano deore front 
>>> and rear hubs, Velocity synergy wheels, (35 cm panaracer pasella tires), 
>>> noodle handlebars, SKS Longboard fenders, etc.
>>> I ride with a nitto mini front rack,  nitro rear rack (the one for 
>>> saddlebag support, not panniers). I ride with a Baggins "Adam" saddlebag. 
>>> No front bag as yet because I haven't found one to fit the distance between 
>>> the front rack and handlebars (I'm not particularly interested in buying a 
>>> nitro F-15 rack, but instead covet a Berthoud rando bag - yet I don't know 
>>> if the 28cm size  will fill the gap. )
>>>
>>> Nothing unusual for a Rivendell.
>>>
>>> Now, for the recent developments:
>>> Swapped the old wheel (Velocity Synergy) for a newly built Velocity 
>>> Synergy with dynohub (Shimano Alfine). Have a lightweight B&M Cyo light 
>>> attatched to the right (rider's right while riding) of the rack. Switched 
>>> from 35cm Panaracers to 33.3 Jack Brown Greens. Got the JBs to fit under 
>>> Hono  because I had issues with the Longboards on two different sets: 
>>> (rubbing, chattering, due to inherent fleibility) . I also shortened the 
>>> stem just a hair, to see if doing so would help alleviate some forearm 
>>> discomfort I'd been having. (The old setup was stem height equidistant to 
>>> saddle height.)  Now the stem height is slightly below saddle height. 
>>> That's it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now: experiencing some shimmy (and less overall feeling of stability) 
>>> while riding no hands sitting upright. This does not occur all the time, 
>>> but it's noticeable. The "response" doesn't happen all the time, but still, 
>>> it's there, and unnerving when it does. 
>>>
>>> This "response" almost never happened with my old, original setup. 
>>> Frustrating! Because I much prefer dyno lighting for any number of reasons, 
>>> and wanted to run narrower tires to better fit underneath Honjo fenders, 
>>> which I much prefer to Longboards. My "upgrades" were plenty expensive, 
>>> too! And a pain in the neck, and time away from the bike. Still, I want 
>>> what I want: the best Riv ride possible. Is there an inherent compromise 
>>> here? Am I missing something? And if it is the new developments, where is 
>>> the problem? Stem height? Wheel weight? Tire width?
>>>
>>> Any comments? Clues? Suggestions? I'll continue to ride and see how it 
>>> goes, but honestly, as much as I like the changes I've made (except for the 
>>> need to run thinner tires with is not optimal for me), I'd go back to the 
>>> original set up if it meant the end to shimmy. I do not like to shimmy! 
>>>
>>> Yes, obviously I will start with the easy stuff first. As in, I'll raise 
>>> the stem and see what happens (or doesn't). After that, I'm frustrated. 
>>> Very frustrated.
>>>
>>> Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>

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