Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
I plan on it and live near Eatonville Wa. I'd like to camp but my Hillborne isn't set up to carry a sleeping bag, tent and extras. I do have a Big Agnes tent and a summer weight mummy bag but don't think I'd fit into it these days..the bag anyway. On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:18:18 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Can we get a Seattle headcount on this ride? Who's in so far? I can take one person with me in my pickemup truck. Also - are we aligned on a date/time yet? How about meeting up in Randle/Packwood at noonish on Saturday the 1st? Folks (like me) that are overnighting can head out Sunday from the campground, with others leaving Saturday night? Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: A lot of the prime routes in Gifford might not be doable at this time. Last year the passes didn't open until July. --mike On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: It sounds like an even lower elevation Plan-B would be wise. There's 4ft of snow at the Lone Pine SNOTEL Stationhttp://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/site?sitenum=591state=waat 3930ft. The LP station is a couple hundred feet lower than and a few miles west from Babyshoe Pass. But the real clincher is that Babyshoe Pass is still snowed in. The ranger said her last report is about a week old, but the road became not drive-able about 10 miles before Babyshoe Pass. Back to the drawing boards... --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally
Around 7:30 am, I imagine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax Rivendell...thoughts?
I am glad my shop days were over before the wild open market of the internet set in. We mostly had to worry about product subverting our market area commitment via dealer agreements and promises of protected regions; if we piped product into another dealer's area through some non-listed location we would be in violation. Our continued access to those products depended upon adherence to those agreements. The internet has brought out the worst of either enforcement of those old concepts or integrity to them by those who just see the product as the media with which they keep volume flowing to make the maths work. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:56:25 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: True story: Customer walked into local bike shop. Looked at a wheelset from a local distributor (Seattle Bike Supply). Decided to buy the same wheelset from a mail-order shop in Florida. The price is the same, but customer doesn't pay sales tax, and shipping is free on orders over a certain threshold. So the wheelset was shipped to Florida, then returned to Seattle, all to evade some taxes. Whether you are for or against taxes, it makes sense to apply them the same across the board. Small businesses like Compass Bicycles will be exempt. Rivendell, with 15 employees, isn't that small any longer. In theory, this gives small businesses an unfair advantage. A national sales tax that would be paid by everybody would solve that problem, but that's not feasible for other reasons. (That said, economies of scale are such that big companies don't have to worry about us small ones having unfair advantages.) There will be software to allow for compliance. Compare this to a bulk mailing, where you have to sort your mail based on the U.S. Postal Service's ever-changing routing arrangements. For $ 30/year, you can get simple software that does the sorting all for you. The price includes updates every few months... just like you would need because some municipality has decided to buy another ambulance and increased their sales tax by 0.1%. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 20:17 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: Hooray for Rivendell for carrying this great MUSA product. I've moved from Nitto to King Iris cages on all my bikes over the last few years and absolutely love them! Great for third bottle, under the downtube use, but for me just about impossible to get the bottle out while riding if used in either of the two normal positions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
Patrick, I find this thread a little scary! Since I retired, and stopped commuting into Burlington, I almost never get flats. Did have one on the tandem this week though. I am planning on attending a conference in Santa Fe next pril and was hoping to go to Albuquerque before hand and do some early season riding, but you make it sound like I should leave my tires at home and just ride on the rims! I have never ridden through goat heads but have camped with them in NM Az so do have some idea how penetrating they are. I remember dreading putting my hand down on the ground to get out of the tent at canyon de Chez (Sp??). Ouch. Michael On Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:44:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I finally got fed up and just installed Stan's (about 1 oz each tube) in Ram's tubes. We'll see how it does. I've also got Tire Savers installed. If the rate of flats (about one a ride) doesn't go down, it's back to the Kojaks. I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and replenish if it has dried up? -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
You learn to live with them and of course that requires some compromise or another. Mine is to fix a lot of flats; others prefer protected tire systems -- systems intentionally, since some involve two casings, some thorn-proof tubes + one or more of liners, sealant, and belted tires. The internal casing (beads cut off an old tire) is a local racer thing. I am hoping that Stan's adds another weight to the rider side of the equation. So far, so good. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I find this thread a little scary! Since I retired, and stopped commuting into Burlington, I almost never get flats. Did have one on the tandem this week though. I am planning on attending a conference in Santa Fe next pril and was hoping to go to Albuquerque before hand and do some early season riding, but you make it sound like I should leave my tires at home and just ride on the rims! I have never ridden through goat heads but have camped with them in NM Az so do have some idea how penetrating they are. I remember dreading putting my hand down on the ground to get out of the tent at canyon de Chez (Sp??). Ouch. Michael On Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:44:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I finally got fed up and just installed Stan's (about 1 oz each tube) in Ram's tubes. We'll see how it does. I've also got Tire Savers installed. If the rate of flats (about one a ride) doesn't go down, it's back to the Kojaks. I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and replenish if it has dried up? -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!
Practice, Steve, practice. What, do you expect everything to be easy?! Seriously, I have no problem. But then, I'm very talented. Patrick Serious? Moore On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Great for third bottle, under the downtube use, but for me just about impossible to get the bottle out while riding if used in either of the two normal positions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!
Nothing wrong with treating that under downtube cage as storage for an extra water bottle which is then swapped with one of the more convenient empties at the next pit stop. The under downtube cage is also great for non-hydration use—such as first aid kit, etc. I usually use it for a multi-bike-swappable kit I've put together and store in one of these: http://www.cagerocket.com/product_info.htm If I'm going to need access to that kit, I'm off the bike anyway. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!
Huh. My first aid kit is pine needle dust or fresh smoked pipe ash, spit, swiss army knife, and a bandana. Anything more serious than that and I need an ER anyway. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:46:52 AM UTC-6, bobish wrote: Nothing wrong with treating that under downtube cage as storage for an extra water bottle which is then swapped with one of the more convenient empties at the next pit stop. The under downtube cage is also great for non-hydration use—such as first aid kit, etc. I usually use it for a multi-bike-swappable kit I've put together and store in one of these: http://www.cagerocket.com/product_info.htm If I'm going to need access to that kit, I'm off the bike anyway. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
Squinting, I can read QR Knob. So that's what it is. I'll have to fiddle with it to see if I can get it to work. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.comwrote: http://howdy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rl740.gif Should be the image in question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!
With an excellent Toy Dolls accompaniment to the how it's made video. Blast from the past for many of us children of the 80s On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:08:56 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Finally a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side. Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Portland Country Ride
Very nice. On Monday, May 20, 2013 4:32:53 PM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Hey all, A buddy is getting married this summer so for a bachelor's party we did a S36O to Vernonia for karaoke. The last time I did that ride was 9 or 10 years ago. Then the Banks-Vernonia trail was 3 miles of broken asphalt overgrown with so many blackberries as to be unrideable. Now, it is 30 miles of new pavement. I'd read about it many times, but hadn't actually ridden the new version for myself until this weekend. For the return there are old timber roads connecting Vernonia with Scappose, so another 30 miles of off-highway riding. All in all, a spectacular and long overdue weekend. I, personally, didn't bring a camera, but there is proof it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeportland/8757055994/in/set-72157633524674463/ There's Riv activewear, but alas no bikes this time. There is a Waterford. And a Miyata. And maybe a Japanese Schwinn, not an expert on them myself. Cheers Happy Summer Camping, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally
I want to offer a bit of detail about what this year's country bike rally participants can expect. We will be following the general course, if not the exact route, of the Almanzo 100, over two days of riding. Almanzo cue sheets, last I checked, were available for download. The Almanzo course is mostly gravel, which can be highly variable between smooth and pavement-like to gnarly loose gravel with potholes. The terrain is quite hilly by Midwestern standards, but splitting the route into 2 days and taking a leisurely pace should make it less of an ordeal. Weather, as always, will be a factor. It's certain that bikes will get dirty, and possible that rocks will chip the paint. That's life. We will ride as a group and regroup as needed when we get separated by hills or whatever. That said, this is a ride at your own risk situation. Any participant is free to opt out for any reason, but there is no support car to pick you up if that happens. Hopefully we can support each other and all have a good ride without incident. But stuff happens, and every rider should accept the inherent risks and have some kind of backup plan. We will pass through a couple small towns where we may be able to eat in cafes and get groceries. But for the most part, plan to have the day's food/water on the bike. Any other questions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Portland Country Ride
Thanks. Written report and map here: Trails, backroads and the charms of Vernoniahttp://bikeportland.org/2013/05/20/trails-backroads-and-the-charms-of-vernonia-87034 Cheers. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:05:05 AM UTC-7, Kellie Stapleton wrote: Very nice. On Monday, May 20, 2013 4:32:53 PM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Hey all, A buddy is getting married this summer so for a bachelor's party we did a S36O to Vernonia for karaoke. The last time I did that ride was 9 or 10 years ago. Then the Banks-Vernonia trail was 3 miles of broken asphalt overgrown with so many blackberries as to be unrideable. Now, it is 30 miles of new pavement. I'd read about it many times, but hadn't actually ridden the new version for myself until this weekend. For the return there are old timber roads connecting Vernonia with Scappose, so another 30 miles of off-highway riding. All in all, a spectacular and long overdue weekend. I, personally, didn't bring a camera, but there is proof it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeportland/8757055994/in/set-72157633524674463/ There's Riv activewear, but alas no bikes this time. There is a Waterford. And a Miyata. And maybe a Japanese Schwinn, not an expert on them myself. Cheers Happy Summer Camping, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
It looks like QR knob thingy works in conjunction with the reach adjustment screw. The farther in that screw is the more slack you get in the housing by turning the red knob. The knob is awkward to turn and I'd guess is probably more trouble than it's worth for such a small amount of travel. I might just dremel the dam thing off on my set. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Squinting, I can read QR Knob. So that's what it is. I'll have to fiddle with it to see if I can get it to work. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.comwrote: http://howdy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rl740.gif Should be the image in question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] First Aid Kits
So i have to admit that i'm generally a no-plans, take it as you go rider. But this past weekend i was caught out on the trail and had a bad spill that left my face covered in blood, an open cut that would not stop bleeding and unprepared to deal with it. If it were not for the wad of napkins from the takeout chinese in my bag i would have had to fashion something out of my shirt or scare the family having a picnic to control the bleeding before heading to the emergency room. I'd like to pack a minimal kit for all my bikes (like i do with my flat-kit), so that i'm a little more prepared for this. So what do people carry for first aid kits? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Aid Kits
As I mentioned in a previous thread, I carry a very minimal kit, and use everything in it for others things. Here's what I carry/use (which presumes more woodland, backroad riding) -- blood clotting agent/disinfectant: pine needle dust or freshly smoked pipe ash. Combine with spit, place on wound, allow to dry, and good to go for every situation I've faced so far (including some fairly deep gashes on shins from slipping on a rough boulder). I used to carry Matcha green tea for this, but found the others just as effective and nothing extra for me to carry. -- (2) pocket knives: Small penknife and larger folding knife with big locking blade and saw. Dig out splinters, thorns, and the like. Make a splint from sticks if necessary (never has been, but I've done it in practice) for twisted ankles or broken bones. -- Bandanas or buffs. For wrapping or binding or tying off as needed. -- Phone for all rides/runs, GPS emergency beacon for multi-day solo trips or long remote day rides. That's it. First aid is more about knowledge than materials. Going off the idea that everything I need is already out there in the woods, I carry only those things that would be harder to make work without them. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:40:05 AM UTC-6, Minh wrote: So i have to admit that i'm generally a no-plans, take it as you go rider. But this past weekend i was caught out on the trail and had a bad spill that left my face covered in blood, an open cut that would not stop bleeding and unprepared to deal with it. If it were not for the wad of napkins from the takeout chinese in my bag i would have had to fashion something out of my shirt or scare the family having a picnic to control the bleeding before heading to the emergency room. I'd like to pack a minimal kit for all my bikes (like i do with my flat-kit), so that i'm a little more prepared for this. So what do people carry for first aid kits? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] First Aid Kits
The Brave Soldier Crash Pack: http://www.bravesoldier.com/crash-paks/ Small, easily fits in a saddlebag and has mostly everything you need for non-emergent problems. Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:40:05 -0700 From: mgiangs...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] First Aid Kits So i have to admit that i'm generally a no-plans, take it as you go rider. But this past weekend i was caught out on the trail and had a bad spill that left my face covered in blood, an open cut that would not stop bleeding and unprepared to deal with it. If it were not for the wad of napkins from the takeout chinese in my bag i would have had to fashion something out of my shirt or scare the family having a picnic to control the bleeding before heading to the emergency room. I'd like to pack a minimal kit for all my bikes (like i do with my flat-kit), so that i'm a little more prepared for this. So what do people carry for first aid kits? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Aid Kits
A week or so ago, I was out for a jaunt on the local greenbelt, enroute home... most of the people on the path, I'd seen earlier on my way out, and was passing 'em all in reverse-order.Came upon a mother and her two kids who were at the end of one of the longer bridge-spans along the path. I'm usually fairly cheerful in greeting folks, and having said hi earlier, started to say hi again. My smile quickly melted as I could see the look on the mom's face. She was glad to have me see her, but was obviously anxious, holding her daughter's hand, with the son on the other side of the path w/ his and his sister's bikes. I quickly hop off, noticing the blood on the mother's hand. She quickly explained that a moment or so earlier, someone was riding along too fast and had her daughter scrambling while on the bridge, which can be quite slippery; her daughter had caught her fingernail and partially pulled it away, and was bleeding fairly freely. All the mom was asking for was a band-aid, if I happened to have had such.Unfortunately, no, I didn't... however, I had a nice, clean and unused bandana in my saddlebag... I quickly whipped it out, and gently wrapped up the gal's finger, then had her apply pressure for it. I then started to balance her bike on my bike, and was going to turn around and accompany them back the other direction, towards their car... however, the mother didn't want me to, and so I helped her balance her daughter's bike on her bike instead, and departed, in my original direction. I *really* would rather have helped them back to the car, but, I could also imagine that perhaps a strange guy tagging along might have also seemed uncomfortable, so I wasn't going to 'insist', and only do what the mom wanted me to do. I still wonder how the girl's finger is doing.I hope it's well... On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:40:05 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote: So i have to admit that i'm generally a no-plans, take it as you go rider. But this past weekend i was caught out on the trail and had a bad spill that left my face covered in blood, an open cut that would not stop bleeding and unprepared to deal with it. If it were not for the wad of napkins from the takeout chinese in my bag i would have had to fashion something out of my shirt or scare the family having a picnic to control the bleeding before heading to the emergency room. I'd like to pack a minimal kit for all my bikes (like i do with my flat-kit), so that i'm a little more prepared for this. So what do people carry for first aid kits? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
Seattle checking in, Brian. I've got my own ride, but thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Aid Kits
Great assortment of first aid kits at REI; different sizes, brands and costs. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:40:05 AM UTC-7, Minh wrote: So i have to admit that i'm generally a no-plans, take it as you go rider. But this past weekend i was caught out on the trail and had a bad spill that left my face covered in blood, an open cut that would not stop bleeding and unprepared to deal with it. If it were not for the wad of napkins from the takeout chinese in my bag i would have had to fashion something out of my shirt or scare the family having a picnic to control the bleeding before heading to the emergency room. I'd like to pack a minimal kit for all my bikes (like i do with my flat-kit), so that i'm a little more prepared for this. So what do people carry for first aid kits? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Based on the variety of answers, a good question might be, what, in your instance, constitutes an upgrade? Weight, strength, finish? Kind of reminds me of Keith Bontrager's famous statement about bike parts--strong, light, cheap--choose two. On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv in the Wild: Hillborne at the Assault on Mt. Mitchell/Assault on Marion
Somewhere, mixed in the madness of this this pack of 1,000+ blinged out carbon frames and time obsessed riders was a Sam Hillborne. I saw it there last year, too. Way to show up! http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybvisits/8772912820/ Kristy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
So you actually have these levers and use them, and still can't see what the knobs do, if anything? Johan, Sweden On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:43:13 AM UTC+2, Patrick Moore wrote: They don't work like that for me. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Are the red knobs some sort of reach adjuster? That maybe gives the _lever_ more slack? Just guessing, Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Just note that the red will only last for a year or so of riding. After a while, the Brooks color saddles fade back to natural brown leather. On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:43:09 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: Hi, All! I'm Leah, and I'm happy to have discovered you! In November I managed to get my paws on my very own Rivendell Betty Foy. She's the completely perfect answer to my cycling needs. I slapped a gorgeous Brooks B68 in honey on her and it's been great. But yesterday I made the mistake of tooling around on the Brooks site and discovered that they now make a RED B 17...and it would be the exact red that all the decals and fill-ins on the lugwork are. If fit isn't a consideration, what is your opinion about swapping for the red? Will it look too matchy? Would you tire of seeing a cherry red Brooks? Should the more sensible honey color prevail? My other saddle could go to my dad, who is currently suffering with his stock Specialized saddle, so no waste there... I'd love your opinions, so thanks ahead of time! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:04:33 AM UTC-4, Homer Sapiens wrote: Just note that the red will only last for a year or so of riding. After a while, the Brooks color saddles fade back to natural brown leather. But, you can re-dye one as needed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Really? I didn't think that was part of the deal!!! Are you sure? What color brown will it be? I love my honey B68, but I don't care for the antique brown. I would not be happy if my red Brooks ends up looking that way! Is this only with red or with the other limited edition colors too? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
And how does one re-dye? It doesn't sound like anything I'd love to do... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
And how does one re-dye? It doesn't sound like anything I'd love to do... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
Exactly. Patrick Moore iPhone On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: So you actually have these levers and use them, and still can't see what the knobs do, if anything? Johan, Sweden On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:43:13 AM UTC+2, Patrick Moore wrote: They don't work like that for me. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com wrote: Are the red knobs some sort of reach adjuster? That maybe gives the _lever_ more slack? Just guessing, Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Conversion -- freewheel compatibility?
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:38 -0500, Tim Gavin wrote: Is it possible to swap 650B and 700C wheels (and compatible brakes) on a bike with minimal adjustment? 622 - 584 / 2 (the difference in reach required) is probably beyond the range of minimal adjustment but if you are asking can this be done with a brake swap, sure. I have less than 3mm clearance all around the 700x28's I have on it now (picture). The wisdom (kool-aid?) of the list has prevailed; I'm strongly considering getting a 650B wheelset and compatible brakes so I can run wider tires and fenders on my '97 Riv Road. I'm visiting a cool LBS soon that has a couple bikes with 650B, and they'll let me do a fit check. I'm currently running a Shimano hyperglide freewheel cogset on a Phil hub, with Campagnolo Racing T derailleur. I like it; no problems and it rolls very smoothly. If I build a 650B wheel, do I have to use the same freewheel cogs? Like, exactly the same model? If you did you'd have lower gears throughout the range, due to the smaller wheel size. If I put a different 7-speed freewheel, how much derailleur tuning would be required? Could I put on an 8-speed freewheel and still use the Campy derailleur? Lots of tuning at that point? The issue is going to be the capacity of the rear derailleur. I have no idea what the maximum sprocket size that rear derailleur will fit. However, if by tuning you mean adjusting the high and low range stop screws, they should not require adjustment because all the Shimano Hyperglide 7 speed freewheels should have the same width and same spacing between sprockets. 8 speed is wider, and (at least, according to Sheldon) although 8 speed freewheels were marketed for a little while, they had problems and have pretty much disappeared from the marketplace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:43 -0600, Bertin753 wrote: Exactly. Time to break out the Dremel... Patrick Moore iPhone On May 20, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: So you actually have these levers and use them, and still can't see what the knobs do, if anything? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 650B Conversion -- freewheel compatibility?
You can use any freewheel you want, and the rear derailleur , as long as it's within it's total capacity(which can usually be stretched) will work just fine. Minor hi/lo screw adjustments but that's easy. As far 8 and even 9 speed freewheels, yes, they are still on the market. Sunrace and DNP makes them :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. ~mike On Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:42:37 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad. I haven't had any problems from my Synergies, but I like my A23 rims, and intend to keep building on them now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 650B Conversion -- freewheel compatibility?
Your Racing T derailer was designed to work with cogs up to 29 teeth (will probably work with 30) and at least 9 speeds, so as long as you're within that range any 7/8/9 freewheel or cassette will work. If you're running 7-speed Shimano index shifting, you'll get away with a new 7 freewheel with minimal tuning. 8 or 9 will require a new rear shifter. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:38:14 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: Is it possible to swap 650B and 700C wheels (and compatible brakes) on a bike with minimal adjustment? I have less than 3mm clearance all around the 700x28's I have on it now (picture). The wisdom (kool-aid?) of the list has prevailed; I'm strongly considering getting a 650B wheelset and compatible brakes so I can run wider tires and fenders on my '97 Riv Road. I'm visiting a cool LBS soon that has a couple bikes with 650B, and they'll let me do a fit check. I'm currently running a Shimano hyperglide freewheel cogset on a Phil hub, with Campagnolo Racing T derailleur. I like it; no problems and it rolls very smoothly. If I build a 650B wheel, do I have to use the same freewheel cogs? Like, exactly the same model? If I put a different 7-speed freewheel, how much derailleur tuning would be required? Could I put on an 8-speed freewheel and still use the Campy derailleur? Lots of tuning at that point? If there is no compatibility, I could tear apart the existing 700C wheels and rebuild them with 650B rims. This keep the plush Phil hubs and the working cogs, but then I'm stuck with a rebuild again if I want to go back to 700C. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34156114@N05/8395437401/ Haven't tried it myself; I happen to prefer the antique brown and have gone out of the way to get 'em at times; the honey will eventually darken to something like the antique brown, given enough time in the saddle... (I don't know what will happen once I have many more years on my brown ones)... Hopefully it won't fade too fast on ya... I suppose a lot of that will depend on your mileage, climate, etc... Good luck w/ it... -L On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:33:22 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: And how does one re-dye? It doesn't sound like anything I'd love to do... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. Oh, I agree... I'm running 700c Dyads, and wish the 650b ones were still available.My first 650b wheelset are Synergy rims, and I've had no problems w/ them, but, do like the Dyad/A23 cross-section better than the boxy section rims. That's why my next set of rims I built were the A23 in 650b. My next set will probably be another A23 650b set, but I may build another 700c set, which could end up either A23 or Dyads -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
If I were up-grading, I would begin with tires. Choose lighter more supple. That rules out cheaper but not necessarily more flat resistant. Next I would look at hubs, unless I had a really substandard rim. If you listen to experienced wheel builders they all rate Mavic and Velocity rims highly. e.g from Peter Whites web site, Velocity and Mavic make the best rims I've found. Until recently I have ridden exclusively on 700c wheels and primarily on Mavic rims. Never had a bad one. I dented a Velocity rim on a curb, that wasn't the rims fault. For years I rode Campy NR hubs and found them durable and very easy to service. Ultegra hubs do seem to hold up better than the 105s, but for the money I have found the White Ind Hubs to be super. I use them on both my Ram Bilenkey tandem. I have a lot of bikes to maintain, mine, my wives, my daughters son-in-laws and have really come to appreciate low maintenance parts. That said, I have never been willing to spring for a PW hub; it just feels like overkill. But I do like PW BBs. Michael I just bought a fabulous Saluki with a basic wheel set. At some point I will probably upgrade the hubs. Rims, well maybe. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:39:00 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. Oh, I agree... I'm running 700c Dyads, and wish the 650b ones were still available.My first 650b wheelset are Synergy rims, and I've had no problems w/ them, but, do like the Dyad/A23 cross-section better than the boxy section rims. That's why my next set of rims I built were the A23 in 650b. My next set will probably be another A23 650b set, but I may build another 700c set, which could end up either A23 or Dyads -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
I think our best bet is to meet/camp at the North Fork CG off of FS Road 23 (here)https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Randle,+WAdaddr=North+Fork+Campground,+Randle,+WAhl=enll=46.493429,-121.861382spn=0.118651,0.308304sll=44.145447,-120.583402sspn=3.95765,9.865723geocode=FacSxgIdfhS7-CkJnNe0ls-WVDHkD2Q9TMhsEw%3BFUTMxAIdEam9-CHb_coVY3uYICl1p5xR0NyWVDHb_coVY3uYIAoq=North+Fork+Campgroundt=hmra=lsz=12 . It looks like the CG is wide open. I'd be happy to make a reservation (I can look into the group site but we may not have enough people to make it cost effective) but I imagine we could just show up and get sites. Then for a ride we could out-n-back as far up the valley as possible (up to snow). From the N Fork CG we have what looks like 2 good options... the main road (FS 23) along the main trunk of the Cispus River or Road 22 along the North Fork Cispus River. Maybe plan to roll out of the CG for the Rumble Ride shortly after noon? There was talk amongst some PDXers of taking the Amtrak to Centralia. Wondering if Brian or Charlie (or anyone else) might be willing/able/interested to assist with rides from the train station in Centralia to the CG? The first train Saturday morning gets to Centralia at 10am. If not, we're looking into other options too. Just putting out feelers and exploring options. --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Worried, I spoke to Bill from Wallbike. He says that the old Brooks colored saddles were a black or brown saddle topped with a different color. The abrasion on the saddle made the true color show through almost immediately. Brooks has changed the way these saddles are made over the past few years - something about using a new tanner. I'll quote him here: The color variations that have been introduced in the last few years are the result of Brooks finding a tanner with a new process for coloring the leather. All in all I would guess that the color in your red saddle would be as stable as the black, honey, and antique brown versions. If I had a bike that could use a red B.17 I wouldn't hesitate to use one. Also, he was clear that re-dyeing is a poor option; the leather has to be raw and the new color won't stick over the old dye. Are you all out of excuses not to buy that cheery red saddle? Join me, the water's fine! *Grin* I feel better! Seriously, All, thanks for the discourse; I'm definitely learning more all the time! And it is so much fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Freedom of the Bicycle
Deacon, Thanks for a most memorable thread. The bicycle is magical and for me close to flying It rejuvenates both mind, body spirit. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:22:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Today is a hard brain day. Yet I was able to hop on the bike and slowly peddle my way to the falls a mile and a half away and 300 feet up. My brain did a wee bit better after that excursion, and hopefully it helped me recover some, so that tomorrow will be better than hard for my brain. The bike is an amazing gift of freedom. Thanks Grant and company! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Freedom of the Bicycle
Patrick, Great poem! Interestingly I was reminiscing about my life with and on a bicycle. I was taught by a neighbor a small Japanese girl named Janine it was this huge black bike and I would ride it and crash into a neighbors garage door, later I recall becoming accomplished and loving the ride. Through the years I too went through phases with the bicycle 1. Learning 2. The Freedom of getting from one place to another efficiently. 3. The allure of the car as the grown up method of transportation. 4. The rediscovering of that freedom that really only the bicycle can offer. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8767799947/ I grew up in a small town in Northern California and my entire Family would get on bikes and go for a ramble. I love bikes and especially love steel ones. Thanks again Deacon Patrick very cool indeed. ~Hugh On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:22:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Talking About Bicycles Talking about bicycles, said my friend, I have been through the four ages. I can remember a time in early childhood when a bicycle meant nothing to me: it was just part of the huge meaningless background of grown-up gadgets against which life went on. Then came a time when to have a bicycle, and to have learned to ride it, and to be at last spinning along on one's own, early in the morning, under trees, in and out of the shadows, was like entering Paradise. That apparently effortless and frictionless gliding--more like swimming than any other motion, but really most like the discovery of a fifth element--that seemed to have solved the secret of life. Now one would begin to be happy. But, of course, I soon reached the third period. Pedalling to and fro from school (it was one of those journeys that feel up-hill both ways) in all weathers, soon revealed the prose of cycling. The bicycle, itself, became to me what his oar is to a galley slave. But what was the fourth age? I asked. I am in it now, or rather I am frequently in it. I have had to go back to cycling lately now that there's no car. And the jobs I use it for are often dull enough. But again and again the mere fact of riding brings back a delicious whiff of memory. I recover the feelings of the second age. What's more, I see how true they were--how philosophical, even. For it really is a remarkably pleasant motion. To be sure, it is not a recipe for happiness as I then thought. In that sense the second age was a mirage. But a mirage of something. How do you mean?, said I. I mean this. Whether there is, or whether there is not, in this world or in any other, the kind of happiness which one's first experiences of cycling seemed to promise, still, on any view, it is something to have had the idea of it. The value of the thing promised remains even if that particular promise was false--even if all possible promises of it are false. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:01 AM, IanA atte...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I think cycling is the closet feeling humans get to being a bird - a sense of flying. I love to hear the sound of the tires rolling along and to know that any momentum is from personal effort and balance. It must be good for the soul as much as the brain. Ian A. On Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:22:01 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Today is a hard brain day. Yet I was able to hop on the bike and slowly peddle my way to the falls a mile and a half away and 300 feet up. My brain did a wee bit better after that excursion, and hopefully it helped me recover some, so that tomorrow will be better than hard for my brain. The bike is an amazing gift of freedom. Thanks Grant and company! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I had a green B17 that lasted fine. I think you'll be ok :-) Cheers, David On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Worried, I spoke to Bill from Wallbike. He says that the old Brooks colored saddles were a black or brown saddle topped with a different color. The abrasion on the saddle made the true color show through almost immediately. Brooks has changed the way these saddles are made over the past few years - something about using a new tanner. I'll quote him here: The color variations that have been introduced in the last few years are the result of Brooks finding a tanner with a new process for coloring the leather. All in all I would guess that the color in your red saddle would be as stable as the black, honey, and antique brown versions. If I had a bike that could use a red B.17 I wouldn't hesitate to use one. Also, he was clear that re-dyeing is a poor option; the leather has to be raw and the new color won't stick over the old dye. Are you all out of excuses not to buy that cheery red saddle? Join me, the water's fine! *Grin* I feel better! Seriously, All, thanks for the discourse; I'm definitely learning more all the time! And it is so much fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
with the reach adjuster screws flush you get about 3 mm of slack in the housing. The pair I got takes a little jiggling to get it un slacked. I havent installed them yet but can see how the qr works. Untill i screwed the reach adjusters in there was no visible difference i On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like QR knob thingy works in conjunction with the reach adjustment screw. The farther in that screw is the more slack you get in the housing by turning the red knob. The knob is awkward to turn and I'd guess is probably more trouble than it's worth for such a small amount of travel. I might just dremel the dam thing off on my set. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Squinting, I can read QR Knob. So that's what it is. I'll have to fiddle with it to see if I can get it to work. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Johan Larsson seven.nau...@gmail.com wrote: http://howdy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rl740.gif Should be the image in question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
My green one is 9 and fine. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Aid Kits
I have a small kit I carry on all of my bikes. Some antiseptic wipes, a couple of band-aids, an adhesive patch, some aspirin, and a mini swiss army knife with tweezers. I've has some pretty big gouges from bushes on dirt rides. Most of the time I don't even notice it until I get home and there is an 8 long trail of blood down my arm or leg. It's good to be prepared. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
Wouldn't mind picking one person up as I have a tiny Suzuki Swift similar to aGeo Metro but I have a two bike, bike rack.so my bike and one other. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:05:34 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: I think our best bet is to meet/camp at the North Fork CG off of FS Road 23 (here)https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Randle,+WAdaddr=North+Fork+Campground,+Randle,+WAhl=enll=46.493429,-121.861382spn=0.118651,0.308304sll=44.145447,-120.583402sspn=3.95765,9.865723geocode=FacSxgIdfhS7-CkJnNe0ls-WVDHkD2Q9TMhsEw%3BFUTMxAIdEam9-CHb_coVY3uYICl1p5xR0NyWVDHb_coVY3uYIAoq=North+Fork+Campgroundt=hmra=lsz=12 . It looks like the CG is wide open. I'd be happy to make a reservation (I can look into the group site but we may not have enough people to make it cost effective) but I imagine we could just show up and get sites. Then for a ride we could out-n-back as far up the valley as possible (up to snow). From the N Fork CG we have what looks like 2 good options... the main road (FS 23) along the main trunk of the Cispus River or Road 22 along the North Fork Cispus River. Maybe plan to roll out of the CG for the Rumble Ride shortly after noon? There was talk amongst some PDXers of taking the Amtrak to Centralia. Wondering if Brian or Charlie (or anyone else) might be willing/able/interested to assist with rides from the train station in Centralia to the CG? The first train Saturday morning gets to Centralia at 10am. If not, we're looking into other options too. Just putting out feelers and exploring options. --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
Yea from Centrailia to Randle is 76 miles one way so I'd want to make one trip . :-/ On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:05:34 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: I think our best bet is to meet/camp at the North Fork CG off of FS Road 23 (here)https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Randle,+WAdaddr=North+Fork+Campground,+Randle,+WAhl=enll=46.493429,-121.861382spn=0.118651,0.308304sll=44.145447,-120.583402sspn=3.95765,9.865723geocode=FacSxgIdfhS7-CkJnNe0ls-WVDHkD2Q9TMhsEw%3BFUTMxAIdEam9-CHb_coVY3uYICl1p5xR0NyWVDHb_coVY3uYIAoq=North+Fork+Campgroundt=hmra=lsz=12 . It looks like the CG is wide open. I'd be happy to make a reservation (I can look into the group site but we may not have enough people to make it cost effective) but I imagine we could just show up and get sites. Then for a ride we could out-n-back as far up the valley as possible (up to snow). From the N Fork CG we have what looks like 2 good options... the main road (FS 23) along the main trunk of the Cispus River or Road 22 along the North Fork Cispus River. Maybe plan to roll out of the CG for the Rumble Ride shortly after noon? There was talk amongst some PDXers of taking the Amtrak to Centralia. Wondering if Brian or Charlie (or anyone else) might be willing/able/interested to assist with rides from the train station in Centralia to the CG? The first train Saturday morning gets to Centralia at 10am. If not, we're looking into other options too. Just putting out feelers and exploring options. --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv in the Wild: Hillborne at the Assault on Mt. Mitchell/Assault on Marion
Nice shot! Is it some one on the list? I'm not liking the new Flickr, though. jim m wc ca On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:14:49 AM UTC-7, kmcmoobud wrote: Somewhere, mixed in the madness of this this pack of 1,000+ blinged out carbon frames and time obsessed riders was a Sam Hillborne. I saw it there last year, too. Way to show up! http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybvisits/8772912820/ Kristy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
Ready and willing. Brian Hanson On May 21, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I think our best bet is to meet/camp at the North Fork CG off of FS Road 23 (here). It looks like the CG is wide open. I'd be happy to make a reservation (I can look into the group site but we may not have enough people to make it cost effective) but I imagine we could just show up and get sites. Then for a ride we could out-n-back as far up the valley as possible (up to snow). From the N Fork CG we have what looks like 2 good options... the main road (FS 23) along the main trunk of the Cispus River or Road 22 along the North Fork Cispus River. Maybe plan to roll out of the CG for the Rumble Ride shortly after noon? There was talk amongst some PDXers of taking the Amtrak to Centralia. Wondering if Brian or Charlie (or anyone else) might be willing/able/interested to assist with rides from the train station in Centralia to the CG? The first train Saturday morning gets to Centralia at 10am. If not, we're looking into other options too. Just putting out feelers and exploring options. --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
