Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
Get both, and extra cables. Change between them as the mood strikes you. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Minh wrote: > I ride both, on bikes with very similiar dimensions (both riv's), they are > very different and both good. > > the albas look less serious, but you can go pretty fast with them, the > upright position is comfortable, the curves allow you to stretch out a bit > and they are so wide (way wider then even the widest noodles), that you can > get plenty of leverage climbing. > > the noodles are great drop bars, no complaints, great ramps, comfortable over > time, it's just a different ride > > if you've been riding drops for a long time and just want to try something > different then you should try the albas. short of testing them yourself it's > hard for us to really tell you one is better then the other. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Doug, Haven't yet seen my pictures on a good screen and will have some editing to do but I'll have em up soon. I think you'll enjoy them. I learned a lot and for sure have the cyclotourist bug. -Hugh On Jun 20, 2013 9:04 PM, "dougP" wrote: > So far that looks to be the anchor point, with individual arrival & > departure dates TBD. I'll be in the area earlier & likely stay later but > nothing fixed yet. > > Hugh, I know you're on a timeline back from Paso but we'll look for a > trip report with photos soon. > > dougP > > On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: >> >> Hi Rivsters, >> >> Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's >> finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans >> down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on >> Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand? >> >> Hugh >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] So. Cal Vs North Cal. Rivendell Rumble. July 27- 28
After a couple of weeks of hashing out the details looks like we have come to a consensus of what's going on. Rivendell Rumble (Cali Edition) July 27-28 Meet at El Chorro campgrounds around 12ish. Various of folks are coming earlier or later feel free to do what cha want. Ride somewhere on that Sunday. Bring food, stories, and your bikes to share. Should be a blast! Anyone want to make a poster of the event I am more then happy to donate one of my photos for a event poster. Also someone needs to add this to the RBW owners bunch calendar. (Totally forgot the link) Let me know if this looks right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Morro Bay SP hiker-biker sounds good for Friday night. dougP On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:29 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: > > Hugh, I haven't made any reservations yet. Could stay at any the > campgrounds depending on who is up there Friday. I'll be self contained on > my bike. > > ~mike > > > On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: >> >> Hi Rivsters, >> >> Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's >> finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans >> down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on >> Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand? >> >> Hugh >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
So far that looks to be the anchor point, with individual arrival & departure dates TBD. I'll be in the area earlier & likely stay later but nothing fixed yet. Hugh, I know you're on a timeline back from Paso but we'll look for a trip report with photos soon. dougP On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: > > Hi Rivsters, > > Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's > finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans > down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on > Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand? > > Hugh > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Hugh, I haven't made any reservations yet. Could stay at any the campgrounds depending on who is up there Friday. I'll be self contained on my bike. ~mike On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: > > Hi Rivsters, > > Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's > finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans > down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on > Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand? > > Hugh > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTT: My 44 Noodles for your 42 Noodles?
Looking for a 41 or 42 Noodle. Will trade my newish 44 Noodles. Only about 70 miles on mine. Very clean and nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
Split the difference and get the new Albastache?.I just ordered a set. Gulp...I love my Salsa woodchippers, but my Carpal tunnel syndrome is making me crazy. I hope the 88 bucks I spent on the Albastache is worth it...really didn't like the mustache bars, but the Albastache addresses my complaints that I had with the original mustachiosI'll post my impressions after I get them mounted up if you'd like... On Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote: > > So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am > really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life > but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the > Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike > the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I > will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I > also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail > riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars > for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway > me one way or the other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] ISO: 7cm Technomic Deluxe 190mm quill height 26.0
Wondering if anyone has one. I have these things to trade for it. Pick one: 7cm Technomic Standard - 225quill 26.0 clamp. 6cm Technomic Standard - 225quill 26.0 clamp. Nitto Moustache bar 26.0 clamp. In great shape but has a few scratches on right side of sleeve collar. Nitto Moustache bar collar says 25.4, but RBW says it is really 26.0 (only about 150 miles on it. In like new shape). No scratches on collar. Just bought from Riv in April? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Compass 26" tire vs. Soma New Express 26" tire.
thanks Mike On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:07:02 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: > > ...the question was comparing the Soma New Express to the Compass tire. > (not Paselas). All 3 are made by Panaracer. > The New Express has an added Hypertex casing for flat resistance and so > would be a little stiffer ride but not as bad as the Tour Guard Paselas is > the rumor. > So...not the same tire. > > ~mike > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: A. Homer Hilsen 67cm DTT
Friends, The time has come that I must part ways with my Hilsen. I've decided to start playing music professionally again, and need to free up some cash for a bass amplifier. For now, my Fargo will handle all cycling business. An able steed, indeed. Pictures of the bike are here: www.flickr.com/bassandbike I'd considered selling the bike complete, and I'm still willing to, but I'm more likely to sell off the frame/fork/bb/headset first. It is in wonderful shape with only minor, normal usage skuffs and very little chainstay rub. No dents or major scratches. 2010 67cm A. Homer Hilsen frame and fork with Tange Levin Headset and Phil Wood BB: $1700.00 or best offer. PayPal preferred. We can split shipping. Questions are welcome and thanks for reading! Patrick Johnson Louisville, Kentucky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] fs: Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frameset - orange - pristine condition!
Pristine condition Rivendell Rambouillet...comes with original box! I'm not sure who'd get excited about the original box but I'm sure there's a few folks. I purchased this early '12 (or late '11) via CL and it's in amazing condition! The prior owner stated a few hundred miles & it shows! I never built it up but kept it safely tucked away. Apart from the protective clear stickers on the headtube & bike shop decal on downtube (both of which can be removed w/ no problem) it's next to mint. Anyways, they don't make 'em like this anymore. Frame, fork & headset (I believe Tange Levin?). $1100 or trade for a dark blue (or custom color) 59cm Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen w/ three water bottle mounts. http://imageshack.us/a/img213/1333/68619147.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img717/5194/62784123.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img266/9954/a16x.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
Yep, I ordered it with the Albatross bars. I figure if it doesn't work out it's easy enough to swap out. On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:47:26 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote: > > So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am > really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life > but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the > Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike > the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I > will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I > also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail > riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars > for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway > me one way or the other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Recent Thread Drift
Was unexpectedly on the road this week, and hadn't been paying close attention to established, on-topic threads.I want to thank the list members who called my attention to the Brooks thread which devolved considerably from anything remotely RBW-specific. I've locked the topic and would appreciate it if folks would let it drop. More importantly, I'd like to ask folks to keep broader topics on broader forums and discussion lists. To be clear, I think it was really nice to get a preview review of a new product from a company which is obviously supported by Rivendell. It's the further deviations which are outside the scope of this group. thanks! Jim / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Hi Rivsters, Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand? Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
I ride both, on bikes with very similiar dimensions (both riv's), they are very different and both good. the albas look less serious, but you can go pretty fast with them, the upright position is comfortable, the curves allow you to stretch out a bit and they are so wide (way wider then even the widest noodles), that you can get plenty of leverage climbing. the noodles are great drop bars, no complaints, great ramps, comfortable over time, it's just a different ride if you've been riding drops for a long time and just want to try something different then you should try the albas. short of testing them yourself it's hard for us to really tell you one is better then the other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Yeah, the word circulating around back then was that it might've been a 2-coat job using House of Kolor Shimrin base coat metallic BC08 "Nova Orange" followed by a clear coat KK14 (formerly UK14) kandy koat "Spanish Gold." Riv will neither confirm or deny any of this; I'm kinda thinking that whoever they used to paint the first batch of Ram's was given the directive to come up with a real eye-catcher to serve as a kind of "loss leader" for the new frame. It worked. Although their paint jobs are good, none have ever been the same as those early Ram frames. The price on this stuff is mighty precious - $50-$60 for a quart of the base coat and around $40 for just 8oz of the Spanish Gold (which is now only sold as an intensifier implying, I assume, that a final third clear coat would be necessary). 'Course, they reduce this stuff considerably before spraying so small quantities go a long way, but no painter is going to spend that kind of money just for one bike frame - unless maybe you'd by the paint for them. I 'spose another way to approach it would be to find someone who is in the process of putting together a show car hot rod and sweet talk him into these color combo's. Then find a way to get the painter to do the frame at the same time. On Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:50:38 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 13:19 -0700, George Schick wrote: > > All replies to this post are good - the temporary field fix, the > > general issues surrounding steel dropouts and the various factors that > > can lead to failure, the way Riv lives up to its reputation for > > supporting their products, etc. But I own a Rambouillet of the same > > vintage as the OP and if something like this ever happened to it I'd > > have to find a way to get it repainted the same brilliant orange color > > as the original, even if I had to pay for the paint job myself. > > Not much of a chance of that. It's not a "brilliant orange color," it's > a multi-stage paint job with transparent paint over a pearl layer. I'm > not sure if anyone knows how to do it, but I do know it's impossible to > touch up. > > > I know this kind of flies in the face of the beausage philosophy, but > > I love that goldish orange they used so much that I'd just have to > > keep it somehow. > > It was nice, I'll give you that. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: shifting a 9 speed cassette with a 7 speed barcon?
Aha! This seems very probable, and I'll get into it tonight. Thanks a ton for yours and Joe's input. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:19:37 AM UTC-7, bobish wrote: > > If Joe has diagnosed the problem correctly (and I've seen this happen > countless times with these shifters, so it's quite possible it's the case > here as well), then see below. > --- > Posted by E.B. at > https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aIpahOwpd7o > > 7/23/12 > > Tim, these are directions I've posted elsewhere to walk people through the > same issue you appear to be experiencing. > This is from my experience. Note that these instructions assume you have > the common "top normal" type of RD. If "low normal," reverse the HIGH & > LOW in the following. > > Once you incorrectly install and subsequently attempt to operate the > improperly assembled barcon shifter, you've got to get back to point A. > Shimano's directions for installation of new barcons even instruct the user > to not operate or fiddle with the assembly prior to new installation. > Unfortunately, those same instructions don't describe what exactly will > happen if you do fiddle with them or the procedure to correct. > > To restore the lever range and indexing action, you use the "lever boss > cover" as a *key* to wind the lever back to its original position. Merely > rotating the lever boss cover to its correct position won't necessarily > correct the problem. > > From recollection, here's how I have done this: > 1. Remove or disconnect cable > 2. Remove the lever and boss cover from shifter body > 3. Install boss cover in correct orientation > 4. Put lever in place on stud or "axle", but in the LOW position; that is, > with the lever nearly parallel to the ground. > 5. With either the screw in place or with your thumb & finger securely > holding the lever against the boss cover, shift the lever to the HIGH > position. > 6. Repeat this action, if necessary, until the mechanism is restored to > its original position. You'll know this when it won't rotate with gentle > force. > 7. Install the lever in the HIGH position and secure mounting screw. You > should now be able to operate the barcon through the full range of indexing > detents. > 8. Re-install cable and adjust tension as necessary. > > Hope this helps. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Raid Pyreneen on my Saluki
You have managed to combine one of my favorite places with one of my favorite bikes. Have a blast. Michael On Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:15:54 PM UTC-4, Damian wrote: > > You may be interested to see some photos from the Raid Pyreneen that I'm > doing on my Saluki with Hetres. From the Atlantic to the Mediterranean > through the Pyrenees over the famous Tour de France cols. See > damiansraid.tumblr.com . I've nothing but good things to say about the > bike and the tires, especially on descents! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions
Thank you everyone for all the input. I will definitely pick up a 40 tooth ring when I am in the US next month. Maybe the bash guard too. Jay On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:43:46 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote: > > > Thanks for the input. I guess I spend most of my time on the inner cogs > anyway. I could probably get by with even a 26/40 with a 13-28 on my > everyday bike. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
I had Noodles at around saddle height on my Sam for 2 years before recently switching to Albas. For me, the top tube was just too long with the drops, even with an 8 cm stem. I'm running the Albas with an 11 cm stem and I really like them. My commuting time didn't change and I am much more comfortable. Jay Unrelated - Commuting time did increase when I fell a few weeks ago and my saddle angle changed. I decided to keep the raised nose, but wa measurable slower until I raised the saddle height to compensate. All better now :) On Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:32:24 PM UTC+3, Garth wrote: > > There is no experience like first hand :) > > Most anyone who has ridden a bike with Alba bars has also ridden with > drops at some point in their life. They're their own bar, an entirely > different experience . When I first tried them, I said Wow, I can see > everything so much better ! Sure you can mount drop bars real high, but > the bars are apples and oranges .. both handlebars but both different. > Try them, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain . You can set > them up with bar end shifters and mtb levers, or bar end brake levers and > thumb shifters. Some use a stem mounted shifter. Use your imagination and > just have fun if it's no fun .. it's no use ! > > > > On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:47:26 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote: >> >> So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am >> really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life >> but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the >> Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike >> the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I >> will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I >> also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail >> riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars >> for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway >> me one way or the other. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 56cm Rivendell Rambouillet frame or complete bike, any color.
I have one. it is green and shiny I loved it but bought a 54 for a friend who stuck with her Miyata 100 and i found the 54 fit me way better. i will send a build list and we can talk about price and such. Bo Richardson Bellingham Wa. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:36:14 PM UTC-7, BrianMcG wrote: > I would like to purchase a Rivendell Rambouillet frame or complete bike. > 56cm is the size. Any color. Please email or reply to post. > > Thanks. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet Update
Awesome! Glad it worked out and you will get your friend back good as, or better than new One of the measures of a quality product is how willingly the makers stand behind it. I think Grant Petersen is a mensch in this regard On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:17:08 PM UTC-5, chris wrote: > Riv contacted me and will have Steve Rex in Sacramento fix the break and > their paint person will repaint the re-brazed area all at no cost to me, so > good news. Unfortunately, 6-8 week wait but it was very generous of Riv to > do the repair at no cost. I'm the original owner, 2003 model, last of the > orange ones. Can't wait to get it back! > > Chris > San Jose > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Artisinal Axes
I wonder if he bought it or if it was gifted from Grant (who is quite the admirer) as an inside joke. Either way, perfect observations from him. Cheers, David On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Liesl wrote: > I think it's great that BikeSnob did, in fact, purchase an axe regardless > of the commenatry (which was, as always, on point and made me laugh) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
I agree with Steve, that is a 3 stage paint. I would guess a base orange, a golden pearl and then a clear (maybe 4 stage with a white or gold under the orange to make it pop). Impossible to match with a touch up due to how the pearl lays down when it is sprayed. I cant believe they went all out on paint jobs like that back then but whoever did them must have been pretty good, working with pearls can get tricky. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 13:19 -0700, George Schick wrote: > > All replies to this post are good - the temporary field fix, the > > general issues surrounding steel dropouts and the various factors that > > can lead to failure, the way Riv lives up to its reputation for > > supporting their products, etc. But I own a Rambouillet of the same > > vintage as the OP and if something like this ever happened to it I'd > > have to find a way to get it repainted the same brilliant orange color > > as the original, even if I had to pay for the paint job myself. > > Not much of a chance of that. It's not a "brilliant orange color," it's > a multi-stage paint job with transparent paint over a pearl layer. I'm > not sure if anyone knows how to do it, but I do know it's impossible to > touch up. > > > I know this kind of flies in the face of the beausage philosophy, but > > I love that goldish orange they used so much that I'd just have to > > keep it somehow. > > It was nice, I'll give you that. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I'm riding up on the Surfliner on Friday the 25th that leaves Union Station at 735 am arriving in SLO at 100 pm. There are only two trains per day that go all the way to SLO with bike racks. The other arrives at 800 pm. ~mike On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:09:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: > > Evan: > > Amtrak is pretty easy once you get used to their website, and sort thru > the schedules. So as not to sidetrack the thread, contact me directly if > you'd like help with it. > > dougP > > On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:07:28 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote: >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be >> willing to let me tag along. >> I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited >> resources, it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the >> Amtrak ? >> >> kindly, >> Evan >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 13:19 -0700, George Schick wrote: > All replies to this post are good - the temporary field fix, the > general issues surrounding steel dropouts and the various factors that > can lead to failure, the way Riv lives up to its reputation for > supporting their products, etc. But I own a Rambouillet of the same > vintage as the OP and if something like this ever happened to it I'd > have to find a way to get it repainted the same brilliant orange color > as the original, even if I had to pay for the paint job myself. Not much of a chance of that. It's not a "brilliant orange color," it's a multi-stage paint job with transparent paint over a pearl layer. I'm not sure if anyone knows how to do it, but I do know it's impossible to touch up. > I know this kind of flies in the face of the beausage philosophy, but > I love that goldish orange they used so much that I'd just have to > keep it somehow. It was nice, I'll give you that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Portland area riders: Midweek S24O to Oxbow Park, Monday 24 June
Just bumping this thread. We've had a few cancellations in the past couple days, so there is still space if you want to join us! -Shawn On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Christopher Chen wrote: > I'm in! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/gND590xDgYQ/unsubscribe?hl=en-US > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 You've read this far, congratulations! You are part of an elite club. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
There is no experience like first hand :) Most anyone who has ridden a bike with Alba bars has also ridden with drops at some point in their life. They're their own bar, an entirely different experience . When I first tried them, I said Wow, I can see everything so much better ! Sure you can mount drop bars real high, but the bars are apples and oranges .. both handlebars but both different. Try them, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain . You can set them up with bar end shifters and mtb levers, or bar end brake levers and thumb shifters. Some use a stem mounted shifter. Use your imagination and just have fun if it's no fun .. it's no use ! On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:47:26 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote: > > So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am > really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life > but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the > Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike > the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I > will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I > also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail > riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars > for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway > me one way or the other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Junior speculation
Fun idea, but not sure if a bike with 36 inch wheels should have the term "jr" anywhere in its name. Clem Smith Sr! On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:57:31 AM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote: > > After allowing time to pass my money is now on the Clem Smith Jr lug being > for 36'ers. It only makes sense. Riv/Grant have been firm believers in > multiple wheel sizes for varying frame sizes. Those giganta Bombas & > Hilsens look good, but throw some 36'ers on 'em and proportions can stay > closer to the same as the smaller sizes. > > Examples of others: > http://dirtysixer.wordpress.com/ > > Best, > Eric Nolan > Indpls > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
All replies to this post are good - the temporary field fix, the general issues surrounding steel dropouts and the various factors that can lead to failure, the way Riv lives up to its reputation for supporting their products, etc. But I own a Rambouillet of the same vintage as the OP and if something like this ever happened to it I'd have to find a way to get it repainted the same brilliant orange color as the original, even if I had to pay for the paint job myself. I know this kind of flies in the face of the beausage philosophy, but I love that goldish orange they used so much that I'd just have to keep it somehow. On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:46:32 AM UTC-5, oldmangabe wrote: > > I've seen it happen a number of times with a variety of steel bikes over > the years. It's partly due to the stress of that particular joint (lots of > torque due to the drivetrain placement). The other key factor in these > kind of failures is overheating of the dropout/chainstay junction during > brazing which anneals the steal making it more brittle and prone to > possibly failing like this far down the road. Beefing up the dropout may > help, as will changing the dropouts to socket style versus tab dropouts > (like on the Rambs). More important than the beefiness or style of the > dropout, is tighter control of the torch and heat when brazing. It's not a > sign of a bad bike at all, or of shoddy construction or quality control, > it's just what happens to steel frames sometimes. Luckily it is easily > repairable. Like I said, I've seen this happen to the whole gamut of steel > bikes. No reason to worry about your other frames, or to constantly check > your driveside dropouts now. No besmirching of Riv intended, just trying > to add some info to the situation. It's cool you were able to drop the > bike off at Riv and they were able to get it fixed. Riv is good peoples. > > Gabe > > On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:09:57 AM UTC-7, chris wrote: >> >> I was on a ride last Saturday in the Gold Country in CA and the chain >> stay broke through on the drive side at the rear dropout. I bought the Ram >> new in 2003. Fortunately no injury. I stopped at Riv on my way home and >> spoke to Scott who told me to leave the bike and Kevin would get back to me >> today regarding repair which would involve sending the bike to a local >> builder. Scott mentioned that Riv now beefs up the rear dropout area on >> frames. >> >> Has anyone had a similar experience with their Riv.? I've always loved >> the Ram and it appears fixable. Not sure if there is any type of warranty. >> >> Chris >> San Jose >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Artisinal Axes
I think it's great that BikeSnob did, in fact, purchase an axe regardless of the commenatry (which was, as always, on point and made me laugh) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Raid Pyreneen on my Saluki
You may be interested to see some photos from the Raid Pyreneen that I'm doing on my Saluki with Hetres. From the Atlantic to the Mediterranean through the Pyrenees over the famous Tour de France cols. See damiansraid.tumblr.com . I've nothing but good things to say about the bike and the tires, especially on descents! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Evan: Amtrak is pretty easy once you get used to their website, and sort thru the schedules. So as not to sidetrack the thread, contact me directly if you'd like help with it. dougP On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:07:28 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be > willing to let me tag along. > I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited > resources, it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the > Amtrak ? > > kindly, > Evan > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: new Paul Thumbies, 26.0, Shimano style, black, $66 shipped
Sold! Thanks folks! From: Andrew Letton To: RBW List ; iBOB list Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:59 AM Subject: [BOB] FS: new Paul Thumbies, 26.0, Shimano style, black, $66 shipped Hi Folks, Seth's WTB for (22.2) Thumbies reminded me that I have a brand new (open package, but never installed) set of Shimamo-compatible, black, 26.0 Thumbies that I'd like to sell for $66 shipped (within the US). PayPal Friend or Family please. Please reply off list. cheers, Andrew Santa Cruz Mountains, CA -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, group rules and how to contact the moderation team, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/internet-bob?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "internet-bob" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/1371718752.11484.YahooMailNeo%40web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide
So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway me one way or the other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Hi folks, I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be willing to let me tag along. I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited resources, it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the Amtrak ? kindly, Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Manny: That post would also be a good time to ask people whether they plan to join in the fun. Mike had looked into the campground details & there was a limit per campsite but it was reasonable. dougP On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:09:10 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > Any objections? If this is fine with everyone I'll make a separate post > just for the official shindig. > > > > > > separate On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:48:47 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: > >> Manny: >> >> Thanks for driving the stake. I'll see you at El Chorro on Saturday >> afternoon. >> >> dougP >> >> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:59:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: >>> >>> Mike this helps a lot. thanks! >>> So details so far. >>> >>> >>> Date: July 27-28 >>> Location: El Chorro campgrounds >>> >>> I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there >>> sometime in the afternoon. >>> >>> This okay with everyone? >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote: Manny, I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local insight here. I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground. I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine "curtain" between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast. Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO. We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by county rangers who close up about 5pm. IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike parking and maybe take pictures. If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, and some sort of beanie. There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta < manueljo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds. > > Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel > about it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the > area. > > We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a > designated spot. > > Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group > of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. > > I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can > get a head count. > > I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers > and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. > > Any thoughts? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?
Yes Matt ! That's why the original Stumpjumpers were not very pleasant at all to ride , especially on the road. No handed riding was a "high risk" adventure ! Ahahahahaahah :) The BB design was cool though , that you could literally run even narrow road cranks of the day with it if you wanted. Never tried it, but there was lots of clearance there as the chainstays came straight out of the BB . On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:41:00 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: > > Right, to look at an '80s stumpjumper side on, it appears to have about > 0cm of drop... I'm sure it's more like ~4cm really which is more typical > for 26" wheeled bikes, but combined with the fact that it has 46cm > chainstays, it looks darn near zero. The angle of incidence btw > chainstay/ST is certainly none too acute despite the 70deg ST angle. > > Matt > > On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:48:50 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: >> >> >> The original Stumpjumpers had a ST angle of 70 degrees and it used >> standard triple front deraillers. I never had an issue using any FD with >> it. So, it's not that, but* combined *with a *deep drop BB* that Riv >> prefers, now we have an issue ! >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:37:30 PM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: >>> >>> I remember reading in the blug or maybe RR that some Rivendell models >>> might have been designed with slacker ST angles than ~72, except that there >>> is a point where front derailleurs become difficult or impossible to fit, >>> due to the angle of incidence between the chainstay and seattube.I >>> thought that may have been the reason why the Rosco Bubbe did not have a >>> front derailleur option - because the ST angle was less than 71 degrees >>> or whatever that threshold is. In any case, I am pretty sure Rivs are >>> designed to have as slack a seat tube angle as possible while still >>> allowing their versatile/all-purpose philosophy. >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:01:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward range. I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud wrote: > I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt > like I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes > sense. > KOPS is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels > comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position > was > too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's > are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a > total waste. > > On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: >> >> Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS >> position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has >> moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked). >> Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling - not >> directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I >> guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot >> changes. >> >> Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But >> for now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts. >> Just a curious thing. >> >> Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being >> used to a low drops position? >> >> I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No >> neck/hand issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to >> wear >> layers in the winter. >> With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. >> Upright really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling. >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.goo
Re: [RBW] Re: Artisinal Axes
HA! Called it: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/06/lock-up-your-children-axeman-is-coming.html Cheers, David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > This is just begging for Bike Snob commentary. > > Cheers, > David > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM, BSWP wrote: > >> On my long ride last month, I saw a fellow who was riding a loaded Surly >> to the four corners of the U.S. That was fine, as he had sold everything >> and poured it into the bike and his gear. Hanging off the side of his right >> rear pannier was a 12-inch frypan, just wobbling out there in the breeze, >> holding the rear tire down to the pavement. Well, I don't need a frypan, >> but I suppose a hatchet would work just as well. >> >> - Andrew, Berkeley >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions
Thanks for the input. I guess I spend most of my time on the inner cogs anyway. I could probably get by with even a 26/40 with a 13-28 on my everyday bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Junior speculation
As one of those big galoots, and owner of a 71cm Hilsen, I tend to agree with you, even 700c's look undersized on that frame. But once you climb on, all that goes away.feels perfect. Jim in Boulder On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:57:31 AM UTC-6, EGNolan wrote: > After allowing time to pass my money is now on the Clem Smith Jr lug being > for 36'ers. It only makes sense. Riv/Grant have been firm believers in > multiple wheel sizes for varying frame sizes. Those giganta Bombas & > Hilsens look good, but throw some 36'ers on 'em and proportions can stay > closer to the same as the smaller sizes. > > Examples of others: > http://dirtysixer.wordpress.com/ > > Best, > Eric Nolan > Indpls > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions
Hi Jay, Yes, you can just take off the outer ring. The chain ring bolts will probably need to be changed to single, or you can use spacers (i.e., washers). http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.html#stackbolts It looks like the way Max did it on his Gunnar: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/ On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:00:09 AM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > > Is it possible to just leave the outer ring off altogether? Maybe using > spacers of some kind? > > On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC+3, reynoldslugs wrote: >> >> The set up works fine. Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with >> 40-26: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/ >> >> Cassette is 9-speed 11-36. It works fine. I use only the upper or lower >> 7 cogs, depending on which chainring I'm in. >> >> Max >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Wow, great field repair. And your pics of Ver 2.0 are terrific. On Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:59:39 AM UTC-4, Will M wrote: > > Some may recall a 11/23/2008 post on this list called "Broken Rambouillet" > by Mike where his Rambouillet cracked where the chainstay meets the > dropout. > > Here is the crack and Mike's quick fix in the field: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157609818335769 > > Of course the folks at RBW were excellent about the repair, and the bike > received new paint (a variant of Quickbeam Orange if I recall). I am now > the caretaker of the bike and it's going strong. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/sets/72157626161174071 > > On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:09:57 AM UTC-4, chris wrote: >> >> I was on a ride last Saturday in the Gold Country in CA and the chain >> stay broke through on the drive side at the rear dropout. I bought the Ram >> new in 2003. Fortunately no injury. I stopped at Riv on my way home and >> spoke to Scott who told me to leave the bike and Kevin would get back to me >> today regarding repair which would involve sending the bike to a local >> builder. Scott mentioned that Riv now beefs up the rear dropout area on >> frames. >> >> Has anyone had a similar experience with their Riv.? I've always loved >> the Ram and it appears fixable. Not sure if there is any type of warranty. >> >> Chris >> San Jose >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
> If I'm doing a longer ride, I'll put on the padded wool shorts. It's not just the padding that helps on longer rides. Loose-fitting > pants/shorts rubbing for more than a few hours will eventually cause abrasions. Seems to be physics (friction?). My tolerance weakness is overheating. When I did my Northern Tier cross country tour, the first week or so I wore padded shorts fearing accumulated abrasion. They were fine, if odd on the Pac Coast and mountains. When I came into the hot northern plains the padding seemed to add to the heat effect. A couple hours in and my shorts were soaked. Dropping the pads in favor of unpadded looser fitting light weight shorts kept me cooler and did not lead to any extreme abrasion. By the time I reached the Black Hills I tossed the padded shorts and bought a couple pair of running shorts which (just barely) held up through to Boston. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?
Electra does their presentation of sitting back, sitting low, and riding flat footed - in fact they won a patent. http://www.electrabike.com/Technical/electra-bike-flat-foot-technology -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
very good-looking bar On Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:00:32 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: > > Just bought my pair! Pretty excited about these. Just wish I could have > bought my Hub Area Racks at the same time. Where you at, HAR? > > > -J, PHL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS/9-sp Ultegra "group"
9sp Ultegra SOLD On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:21:13 AM UTC-7, Rich Lesnik wrote: > > A friend has recently undergone surgery w/complications, and has a 9-sp > low-miles (like, maybe 200?) Ultegra group (minus hubs) for sale. Parts > listed below. Asking $400, incl. shipping to lower 48. > > Shimano 6503 triple crankset, 175mm + bottom bracket. > Shimano 6503 rear derailluer, long cage. > Shimano 6503 front derailluer. > Shimano 6503 9 speed front & rear brifters. > 9 spd cassette & chain. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
Just bought my pair! Pretty excited about these. Just wish I could have bought my Hub Area Racks at the same time. Where you at, HAR? -J, PHL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Some may recall a 11/23/2008 post on this list called "Broken Rambouillet" by Mike where his Rambouillet cracked where the chainstay meets the dropout. Here is the crack and Mike's quick fix in the field: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157609818335769 Of course the folks at RBW were excellent about the repair, and the bike received new paint (a variant of Quickbeam Orange if I recall). I am now the caretaker of the bike and it's going strong. http://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/sets/72157626161174071 On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:09:57 AM UTC-4, chris wrote: > > I was on a ride last Saturday in the Gold Country in CA and the chain stay > broke through on the drive side at the rear dropout. I bought the Ram new > in 2003. Fortunately no injury. I stopped at Riv on my way home and spoke > to Scott who told me to leave the bike and Kevin would get back to me today > regarding repair which would involve sending the bike to a local builder. > Scott mentioned that Riv now beefs up the rear dropout area on frames. > > Has anyone had a similar experience with their Riv.? I've always loved > the Ram and it appears fixable. Not sure if there is any type of warranty. > > Chris > San Jose > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
I need a new old bike to put them on :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shorty bolt for kickstand plate
I just used a hack saw on the long one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?
Right, to look at an '80s stumpjumper side on, it appears to have about 0cm of drop... I'm sure it's more like ~4cm really which is more typical for 26" wheeled bikes, but combined with the fact that it has 46cm chainstays, it looks darn near zero. The angle of incidence btw chainstay/ST is certainly none too acute despite the 70deg ST angle. Matt On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:48:50 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > The original Stumpjumpers had a ST angle of 70 degrees and it used > standard triple front deraillers. I never had an issue using any FD with > it. So, it's not that, but* combined *with a *deep drop BB* that Riv > prefers, now we have an issue ! > > > On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:37:30 PM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: >> >> I remember reading in the blug or maybe RR that some Rivendell models >> might have been designed with slacker ST angles than ~72, except that there >> is a point where front derailleurs become difficult or impossible to fit, >> due to the angle of incidence between the chainstay and seattube.I >> thought that may have been the reason why the Rosco Bubbe did not have a >> front derailleur option - because the ST angle was less than 71 degrees >> or whatever that threshold is. In any case, I am pretty sure Rivs are >> designed to have as slack a seat tube angle as possible while still >> allowing their versatile/all-purpose philosophy. >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:01:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I >>> find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable >>> when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and >>> high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters >>> have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward >>> range. >>> >>> I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle >>> setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if >>> you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle >>> and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is? >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud wrote: >>> I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt like I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. KOPS is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a total waste. On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: > > Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS > position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has > moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked). > Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling - not > directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I > guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot > changes. > > Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But > for now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts. > Just a curious thing. > > Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being > used to a low drops position? > > I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No > neck/hand issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear > layers in the winter. > With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright > really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling. > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >>> patric...@resumespecialties.com >>> >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://gr
Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?
Right, I have an 85 stumpjumper, and to look at it side on, it appears to have about 0cm of drop... I'm sure it's more like ~4cm really, but combined with the fact that it has 46cm chainstays, it looks darn near zero. The angle of incidence btw chainstay/ST is certainly none too acute despite the 70cm ST angle. Matt On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:48:50 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > The original Stumpjumpers had a ST angle of 70 degrees and it used > standard triple front deraillers. I never had an issue using any FD with > it. So, it's not that, but* combined *with a *deep drop BB* that Riv > prefers, now we have an issue ! > > > On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:37:30 PM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: >> >> I remember reading in the blug or maybe RR that some Rivendell models >> might have been designed with slacker ST angles than ~72, except that there >> is a point where front derailleurs become difficult or impossible to fit, >> due to the angle of incidence between the chainstay and seattube.I >> thought that may have been the reason why the Rosco Bubbe did not have a >> front derailleur option - because the ST angle was less than 71 degrees >> or whatever that threshold is. In any case, I am pretty sure Rivs are >> designed to have as slack a seat tube angle as possible while still >> allowing their versatile/all-purpose philosophy. >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:01:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I >>> find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable >>> when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and >>> high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters >>> have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward >>> range. >>> >>> I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle >>> setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if >>> you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle >>> and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is? >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud wrote: >>> I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt like I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. KOPS is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a total waste. On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: > > Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS > position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has > moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked). > Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling - not > directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I > guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot > changes. > > Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But > for now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts. > Just a curious thing. > > Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being > used to a low drops position? > > I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No > neck/hand issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear > layers in the winter. > With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright > really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling. > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >>> patric...@resumespecialties.com >>> >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions
Definitely do it.Setting the limit screw works just fine, and you can get used to any nuances it introduces to shifting. I have been using the Riv bash guard crank on all my bikes for years now and love it.For a while it was just the "quickbeam crank" and I would just run the stock 40/32 until the aluminum rings needed replacing. I never use the big ring on triples either, and on my touring rig I don't even need a 40t ring, I get by with a 36.I can't hit all 8 cogs with both chainrings though; certainly not with the granny anyway- the chain would not be psyched on the outer cogs. Matt On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:21:23 PM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > > I'm intrigued by Grant's idea of 40-26 front gearing for my Sam Hillborne, > but Riv is out of their wide-low cranks and there's actually nothing wrong > with Sugino triple that's on there now. So I was wondering if it would be > possible to just replace the middle ring with a 40, and either replace the > outer ring with a bash guard or just leave it as is. Would the Tiagra > triple derailler I have on there work well with this configuration? > Obviously I could reset the limit screw to restrict its range to the inner > and middle rings. But could I also lower the mounting position to match the > middle ring? Or would the outer ring be in the way? > > If it works, this would be a neat way to try out wide-low gearing for the > price of 1 chain ring. Thoughts? > > Jay > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: shifting a 9 speed cassette with a 7 speed barcon?
If Joe has diagnosed the problem correctly (and I've seen this happen countless times with these shifters, so it's quite possible it's the case here as well), then see below. --- Posted by E.B. at https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aIpahOwpd7o 7/23/12 Tim, these are directions I've posted elsewhere to walk people through the same issue you appear to be experiencing. This is from my experience. Note that these instructions assume you have the common "top normal" type of RD. If "low normal," reverse the HIGH & LOW in the following. Once you incorrectly install and subsequently attempt to operate the improperly assembled barcon shifter, you've got to get back to point A. Shimano's directions for installation of new barcons even instruct the user to not operate or fiddle with the assembly prior to new installation. Unfortunately, those same instructions don't describe what exactly will happen if you do fiddle with them or the procedure to correct. To restore the lever range and indexing action, you use the "lever boss cover" as a *key* to wind the lever back to its original position. Merely rotating the lever boss cover to its correct position won't necessarily correct the problem. >From recollection, here's how I have done this: 1. Remove or disconnect cable 2. Remove the lever and boss cover from shifter body 3. Install boss cover in correct orientation 4. Put lever in place on stud or "axle", but in the LOW position; that is, with the lever nearly parallel to the ground. 5. With either the screw in place or with your thumb & finger securely holding the lever against the boss cover, shift the lever to the HIGH position. 6. Repeat this action, if necessary, until the mechanism is restored to its original position. You'll know this when it won't rotate with gentle force. 7. Install the lever in the HIGH position and secure mounting screw. You should now be able to operate the barcon through the full range of indexing detents. 8. Re-install cable and adjust tension as necessary. Hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions
Jay, Don't get me wrong. Most of my bikes have come to me used or set up a certain way and I'm too cheap/lazy to change out the cranks. A 45 middle is a bit high but it's on garage find trek that came to me with a half step plus granny set up and I'm just dealing with it for now. If I were going from scratch, the 40/26 would be perfect on that bike. Where I ride, I have some very steep hills where I need the small ring but the hills are fairly short (usually from a few hundred feet to a mile or so). That explains why I'm in the middle 90% of the time. That and the fact that I'm a lightweight and rarely carry much on the bike. Certainly for a mountainous climb with a loaded bike I'd use the small ring a lot more. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: shifting a 9 speed cassette with a 7 speed barcon?
I can't explain the details well (or at all), but it sounds like you have
the base the shifter mounts to in the wrong orientation. Try remounting
with the little nubby part on the base in a different spot.
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:22:01 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
> I just put a Suntour Cyclone derailleur and a 9 speed cluster on my Gravel
> Roadster, which had been a singlespeed.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/9089710197/
>
> I'm trying to shift it with a Shimano 7 speed barcon, and I'm only
> getting 6 speeds out of it in friction. Is there a modification (I have a
> dremel and very little natural fear - is there a tab I can cut off?) I can
> do, or should I swap in the front shifter? The front has a lot of range,
> and it's redundant, since I'm shifting the front chainrings with a stick
> right now.
> Do I need to get a 9 speed shifter on there? Everything I see in a cursory
> search is people trying to shift fewer cogs with a wider range shifter.
> ("how is that even challenging?")
>
> I'm using a Suntour bar-end shifter on my mountain bike's 9 speed cluster
> pretty successfully, which is why I thought this experiment might work.
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
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[RBW] FS: new Paul Thumbies, 26.0, Shimano style, black, $66 shipped
Hi Folks, Seth's WTB for (22.2) Thumbies reminded me that I have a brand new (open package, but never installed) set of Shimamo-compatible, black, 26.0 Thumbies that I'd like to sell for $66 shipped (within the US). PayPal Friend or Family please. Please reply off list. cheers, Andrew Santa Cruz Mountains, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] shifting a 9 speed cassette with a 7 speed barcon?
I just put a Suntour Cyclone derailleur and a 9 speed cluster on my Gravel
Roadster, which had been a singlespeed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/9089710197/
I'm trying to shift it with a Shimano 7 speed barcon, and I'm only getting
6 speeds out of it in friction. Is there a modification (I have a dremel
and very little natural fear - is there a tab I can cut off?) I can do, or
should I swap in the front shifter? The front has a lot of range, and it's
redundant, since I'm shifting the front chainrings with a stick right now.
Do I need to get a 9 speed shifter on there? Everything I see in a cursory
search is people trying to shift fewer cogs with a wider range shifter.
("how is that even challenging?")
I'm using a Suntour bar-end shifter on my mountain bike's 9 speed cluster
pretty successfully, which is why I thought this experiment might work.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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