[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Obviously, it is frustrating to not have your bike. Doubly so if it's sitting somewhere waiting to be painted. But, if I understand the scenario so far, Rivendell is repairing the frame for free and is having it repainted. They've also offered a replacement bike. Is that a loaner until it's back or full-on replacement? (In other words, a replacement means they are going to eat the cost of the repair and repaint, plus the cost of the new frame, and try to offset that by reselling your repaired/repainted frame at some future point.) That seems like a pretty fair offer, either way. It does seem like some missed communication - and I wouldn't attempt to conjecture why there were changes or delays. But, if the rub is Steve Rex or Bernie Mikkelsen - that's a pretty high class problem. Either way those are two talented frame builders. I guess it strikes me that both the person who operates the torch, and the person who is running the paint process are not Rivendell employees. And Rivendell is caught between them and you, probably trying to skate that fine line of putting pressure on the person doing the work while maintaining a much longer-term relationship with them, while keeping you happy. They have a few things at their control - the above mentioned bicycle replacement, for example - and they have no control over most of it. Now, I'm certainly not trying to get them off the hook. But, I've been in that position many times during my stint in retail and didn't always get the straight story from repair person - a lot of times you end up passing on the best information you have at the time. Sometimes it's wrong. It's hard to come to the conclusion that anyone has tried to be deceptive. Sometimes it's just as hard for them to get the info, too. Finally, maybe it's the language of your post, but have all of your communications with Rivendell been my email? I hope you did get them on the phone for most of the conversation - often it's hard to tell tone or level of frustration from text alone. Hopefully your bike will be back in your hands soon. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New blug question
Bowmore is nice. I've only drunk a few bottles of Laphroaig, but each one tasted different. I've had a couple bottles of the Trader Joe's Finlaggan, and it makes me giddy. Tasty, mysterious, and $20. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:55:54 AM UTC-7, MikeC wrote: I too prefer Lagavulin and find it be very well balanced. The other two are a bit too one dimensional for me - read: all peat! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ma Petite Betty
I should have it by Wednesday, August 21. It feels like a long time to wait, but most of that delay is on my end, not theirs ($$$). On Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:59:24 PM UTC-7, DianeB wrote: As well there should be! Congratulations on getting your beautiful bike, Cecily. When do you think you'll be able to pick it up? We're looking forward to pictures! I'll admit, I've had my even more petite Homer for two days now, but I've been too busy riding and fiddling around with it to take pictures. On Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:22:53 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote: Looks like there's quite a bit of appreciation for Betty at Dream Cycle amongst the staff and their Facebook fans. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:29:43 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: Well, the Betty Foy frame arrived today, and I'm absolutely thrilled about completing the build. I'm looking forward to many great rides together. There's just one thing: I've never actually paid attention to frame size before, so when I took Betty out of her very well-packed box, I was a little surprised by how small she is. I ordered the 55cm size as recommended by Keven, but she looks so small without all of parts. Is this normal? Should I measure her just to be sure? Cecily Vancouver, BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Welcome to Portland, Zack
just watch out for rides in the West Hill and stairways;-) Dennis in PDX All I see are Smiles http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8337032740/... Good times http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8335974271/... and Great Views http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8337026304/. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: updated Rambouillet with improved Tektro 559's
Nice set up, Max! I stirred the Tektro caliper and lever idea for a while to open up the clearances on my Rambouillet for more tire and fender room. In the meantime I had collected some Continental Gatorskin 700x32 (actually 29mm on Velocity Synergy rims) tires on clearance from the local REI and a set of Honjo H27 hammered fenders for an attractive price and after holding one of the fenders up to my bike with the Contis installed I thought I should do it to prove I needed the Tektro solution for this combination. Turns out I didn't need the brakes. All of that tire and fender fit beneath the Shimano long reach calipers, even when closing on the rim (thanks to a strategic clearance dimpling needed on the front only). Took it for, literally, a shake down ride around town to see if I could produce some misbehaving. All was well, despite Belgian block roads, gravel paths, freshly asphalt patched streets, and yes, more curb drops than I should have on the first ride with a low tail fender like that (go off at an angle turn the wheel even more parallel to the curb as you drop). The day's climate was beautiful, or as a friend posted: I won't be noting the weather when I face Saint Peter, but if I do reach Heaven, I am positive it will be like last week in PIttsburgh. Proof: https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5910070344477760609?authkey=CPibubXxl-b3ag Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:22:53 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote: Dear List: Some changes to my Rambouillet gave me an excuse to take some pictures. The changes include the improved Tektro 559's. IMHO, the new quick release button on the brake release is important, I'm glad they added it - - the old ones sort of opened up at bad times. It's such a comfortable bike, I just love it - - no fancy parts, it just a pleasure to ride. We rode from Healdsburg out to Jim Town and up Pine Flat today; the final 1000' of climbing left me grateful for gears that could objectively be described as ridiculously low. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157635034191456/ Also, I posted some time ago about trouble encountered when I had the LBS swap out the Campagnolo triple on my Sachs, replacing it with a TA Carmina. The list's suggestions worked out nicely (thank you); with narrower chainring bolt spacing and a shorter bottom bracket, the bike shifts very nicely now. It's a great ride, very neutral and comfortable. (RBW content - Silvers shifters and Rolly Polly's). Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157635034237136/ Silver shifters, new Selle Anatomica saddle, wider tires (Rolly Polly). The bike was fine before, just feels a little more right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any last suggestions before I have to throw my Bleriot in a dumpster?
I can't spam to this but I have two experiences that are similar. My first non-Mountain Bike(Giant OCR2) carried me around San Francisco until I was struck by a car. I had the chain rings dig into my Achilles and was carried away by an ambance - the bike was fine. As I was recovering my family bought me a Soma Double Cross (even though the bike was fine, just to be nice). After recovery I got back on the Giant and did not ride it out of the Lower Haight ever again. I was so nervous to go near traffic. I got on the Soma and cruised through Golden Gate Park, the Mission, out to Alemany Farm in Bernal Heights, downtown to my office, etc. never had a care in the world. I held onto the Giant frame for 3 years until I moved to Philly and sold it in the moving process. My mind and body just did not want me on that bike. -- I purchased a set of Richey Logic cranks off here for the famed low-Q benefits. Installed them and rode out (on my Bleriot). Knee and lower back pain appeared. They were 172.5. I have since figured out that my sweet spot is a mid-to-high-Q factor crank with 165-170 length due for the way my legs and hips are set up. Keep searching for the fit - and don't try to make some thing/part/theory work because of what anyone else says. Fit is the most personal part of a bike. All those little differences add up. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any last suggestions before I have to throw my Bleriot in a dumpster?
Michael, I'm just now reading through the threads of this post. Given your comparison of crank lengths, pedals, and shoes in the referenced post, have you tried moving the clipless pedals to the Bleriot and using those shoes to ride in? Reason I ask that is because I've been shifting around from platform pedals/plain shoes to SPD pedals/MTB shoes to clipless LOOK-type pedals/shoes recently in order to try to address a chronic foot pain problem I've developed in the last 10 years or so. In the process of doing so (and I haven't ridden a clipless-type of pedal/shoe in about 5+ years or so) I've found that not only does my pedal stroke improve with feet attached on clipless, but I can feel my lower back muscles getting more into the down stroke, as well. With platform pedals I feel like I have the tendency to slouch more while riding and pedal along like an old fart (which, of course, I am). I had forgotten about the pedal stroke advantage of the clipless attached feeling, but have accidentally (maybe incidentally) rediscovered it. And yes, my lower back is less stiff and sore after a ride with the clipless pedals. All of this is contra-Grant for the most part, but it seems to be real. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:18:52 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: OK. Here is a difference I found between the bikes: Sam and Bleriot have same saddle heights (saddle top-bb center), *but*: Sam cranks - *170mm*, MKS touring pedals with walking shoe (no back pain) Bleriot cranks - *172.5mm*, MKS touring pedals with same walking shoe (ouch) Giant cranks - 172.5mm, but have used clipless much, much more than Touring pedals on it. No pain. Clipless shoe also changes distance to pedal since the sole/cleat is diferent thickness than walking shoe. So: This makes the saddle top to pedals 2.5mm further on the Bleriot than the Sam. *Would this 2.5mm difference be enough to cause a low back pain problem?* I rode this way fine for a coupla months when I first got the Bleriot with no probs. It was after those first months that the back pain started. Maybe cumulative and the back started complaining and still does? *Should I drop the saddle 2.5mm?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Paul Mini-Moto + SimpleOne + Resist 700x45
Now the rear close-up showing the simple attachment of my Tubus Fly. Threaded hole on TOP of the brake bridge is my new favorite feature. http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/justinaugust/9492290265/ -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any last suggestions before I have to throw my Bleriot in a dumpster?
Spam this? Sheesh autocorrect. Speak to this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Paul Mini-Moto + SimpleOne + Resist 700x45
Wow looks great. Were the moto-lites required for clearance? How's the clearance at the chainstay? Do you have full range to slide the rear wheel in and out for gear changes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Paul Mini-Moto + SimpleOne + Resist 700x45
Sweet setup! Two questions; -Can you compare stopping power/feel between the moto-lights and more traditional canti's? -What do you think of the Nomads? They look like a very good value and pretty light weight. Enjoy your upgraded ride! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for 62cm Quickbeam
I slept on that one, and now it's gone. Updating this to: looking for a 60cm or 62cm stock QB or frameset. Had a really nice upgraded one offered to me, but I have my own upgrade path in mind. Orange trumps green. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:21:58 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: I can ride a 64, and I've been super happy with my 60cm Quickbeamhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/quickbeam-disenrandonneurized/for 9 years. So you might consider Colin's 60cm Quickbeamhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/_FkZ-rfAlIMposted to the list. Only $1000, and plus, it's orange. Pull the seatpost up a thumb's width, install a longer stem, and Bob's yer uncle. Fantastic bike. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:50:35 PM UTC-7, Jeremy wrote: After seeing that 64cm QB go by (which was a hair too big for my stubby legs), I've decided I want a QB of my own. Anyone holding? -Jeremy www.cedarcycling.com / @cedarcycling on the internets -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting sights and creating abstract art with Sam
Eric The kayak trailer was parked in the rack located just before the 54th st. intersection and light at Hiawatha, across from the dog park. with the amount of Pedestrians and those 4 wheel pedal contraptions they rent at the falls, in the Minnehaha park/trail area I can't imagine pulling that thing. Not exactly the most maneuverable set up. On the other hand if I lived within blocks of one of the lakes I'd use to take my boat for a paddle beats putting it on the car roof and carrying it to the water. On Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:15:59 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Can't see that being safe down the Ft. Snelling trail. Have seen similar (but smaller) setups being towed to some of the in town lakes. Oh, and the pocket shots are pretty cool. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Impressive kayak trailer... that might require a safety rider tailing you! The pocket abstracts are cool, now if you were going to display them how would you give photo-credit/sign them...?!? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: AHH 2.0 w/ Modern Looking Nitto Rack
Good to know... I think I'll do the same during my upcoming trip to the US (buy Schmidt lighting wire + fancy quick disconnects). Sad that I have to go to America to buy German parts, because I am still not sure about how to ask for these things in European bike shops. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:18:01 PM UTC+2, Brian Campbell wrote: I bought about 10ft. of Schmidt lighting wire from Peter White, as the Supernova tail light wire was not long enough. I did the slpice near the rear of the bike and hid it behind the non-drive side chainstay, attached with zip ties. I mounted my quick disconnect on the front rack, it was the easiest place to hide it. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 12:31:48 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote: Ah I see, so you already had the BM taillight on hand. Did the taillight come with enough wiring to route all the way down the frame and fender, or did you have to buy any extension? I know you mentioned using the Supernova quick disconnects... I was thinking of doing the same, because I have SS couplers. (Might as well make everything breakable in half, right? Including the dynamo wiring) On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:35:52 AM UTC+2, Brian Campbell wrote: Here are a couple of bad photos of how I did it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76454470@N05/8358830287/ It was a pretty simple job and I did not get worked up about it being pro level work. I removed the existing light's internals, sawed the Supernova tail light mounting tabs off so it would fit inside the housing, ran the wire out the back and used a heavy duty 2 part epoxy to attach the light the the back plate of the housing. after the epoxy cured. I surrounded the light w/ silicone to take up some dead space and to help adhere the light as well. Since I run my wire's externally, I ran the wire over the fender and down the fender stay. On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:56:19 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote: What a timely post! I am actually in the same dilemma, where I have a Supernova up front, and wanted to get a fender-mounted taillight. Alas, I only recently came to realize that my headlight is only compatible with a Supernova tail light. I had no idea you could place the Supernova taillight into BM housing. Do you have any up-close photos or a 'how to' of this setup? On Monday, August 5, 2013 3:50:50 AM UTC+2, Brian Campbell wrote: I made some changes to my AHH. I finally caved in to function over form and swapped the Paul Racer brakes for long reach Tektros. I will be using this for commuting a couple of days a week, now that I have changed jobs. I added the Nitto R-26 rear rack, SON 28 wide body hub in Open Pro, (Peter White built) and put a Supernova tail light in the Busch Mueller tail light housing. I was unaware, previously, that the Supernova headlight and taillight were a matched pair and had to be used toghther. Ran the wiring along the front rack w/ Supernova quick disconnects. The rack works fine with my size 11.5 feet and my Arkel Utility Basket rear bags. I do wish I could mount it lower without havint to cut it but the mounting tang gets hung up on the rear quick release. I mat still make the cut in the future, we'll see. Hope this link works. http://s91.photobucket.com/user/bylar13/media/AHH/090_zps90e4fca5.jpg.html?sort=2o=0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders
Hi Steve, I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see them make a 50mm wide fender for 26 wheels. I went ahead and ordered the P55. http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=ena=productr=mudguardsi=6409800121CHROMOPLASTICS I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks for that photo. Sounds like a fun DIY project. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote: SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized tires and it's been quite durable. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/ Steve On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP sum...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Thanks, all for your considerations. I see many of you are recommending the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried thesehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/5556633615/in/set-72157626217977955 It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26 wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5 tires. I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender out of shape). This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only considering the silver P55 of the chromoplastic model. The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty! If I go with the GB, it will be the 50mm short variety. Not sure what short entails, but after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap if necessary. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote: I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially jumping down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before falling. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: All the metal ones are pretty darn long. SKS non-longboards might be your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote: I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to find it here. I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of shape. I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike. Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another consideration. I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into place. Your thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders
Hi Steve, I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see them make a 50mm wide fender for 26 wheels. I went ahead and ordered the P55. http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=ena=productr=mudguardsi=6409800121CHROMOPLASTICS I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks for that photo. Sounds like a fun DIY project. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote: SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized tires and it's been quite durable. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/ Steve On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP sum...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Thanks, all for your considerations. I see many of you are recommending the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried thesehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/5556633615/in/set-72157626217977955 It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26 wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5 tires. I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender out of shape). This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only considering the silver P55 of the chromoplastic model. The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty! If I go with the GB, it will be the 50mm short variety. Not sure what short entails, but after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap if necessary. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote: I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially jumping down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before falling. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: All the metal ones are pretty darn long. SKS non-longboards might be your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote: I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to find it here. I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of shape. I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike. Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another consideration. I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into place. Your thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders
Hi Steve, I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see them make a 50mm wide fender for 26 wheels. I went ahead and ordered the P55. http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=ena=productr=mudguardsi=6409800121CHROMOPLASTICS I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks for that photo. Sounds like a fun DIY project. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote: SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized tires and it's been quite durable. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/ Steve On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP sum...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Thanks, all for your considerations. I see many of you are recommending the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried thesehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/5556633615/in/set-72157626217977955 It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26 wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5 tires. I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender out of shape). This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only considering the silver P55 of the chromoplastic model. The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty! If I go with the GB, it will be the 50mm short variety. Not sure what short entails, but after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap if necessary. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote: I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially jumping down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before falling. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: All the metal ones are pretty darn long. SKS non-longboards might be your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote: I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to find it here. I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of shape. I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike. Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another consideration. I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into place. Your thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Bombadil 60cm - Planning to sell
Putting this out to the group in advance. I plan to prepare my Bombadil for sale shortly, which is a double top-tube 60cm in dark green and cream. I need to sell a few bikes in my stable, and I'm forced to make a tough choice. I also hope there may be a nice home for it among this group. Currently it's set up with bullmoose/thumbshifters, but I also have a set of Noodles with barend shifters that can easily go back on the bike. If you're potentially interested, kindly contact me offline (montclairbob...@gmail.com). Several past pics on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157625000944598/ Peace, Bobby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for 62cm Quickbeam
Jeremy, Here's one on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Quickbeam-Frameset-62cm-Orange-w-headset-/330987061099?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item4d105dbf6b You lucky so so It's rare to fine one in my size. Hope you get one soon. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:50:35 PM UTC-7, Jeremy wrote: After seeing that 64cm QB go by (which was a hair too big for my stubby legs), I've decided I want a QB of my own. Anyone holding? -Jeremy www.cedarcycling.com / @cedarcycling on the internets -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for 62cm Quickbeam
The one I posted is orange and just frame and fork so you can do your own build. ~Hugh On Monday, August 12, 2013 9:37:04 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Jeremy, Here's one on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Quickbeam-Frameset-62cm-Orange-w-headset-/330987061099?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item4d105dbf6b You lucky so so It's rare to fine one in my size. Hope you get one soon. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:50:35 PM UTC-7, Jeremy wrote: After seeing that 64cm QB go by (which was a hair too big for my stubby legs), I've decided I want a QB of my own. Anyone holding? -Jeremy www.cedarcycling.com / @cedarcycling on the internets -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Welcome to Portland, Zack
What a great welcome! Zack enjoy you're new city with many great rides and friends...look forward to your ride reports and images so I can live in Portland vicariously. ~Hugh On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:24:08 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: List member Zack Luby recently relocated to the Rose City. List member Chris Chen and I snatched him up and took him on a little tour around town this afternoon. We got rained on (barely), ate copious quantities of berries, pedaled to the top of a butte, stopped for burgers, rode on the beach, applied plenty of sunscreen, and stayed out past our curfews. Zack rode his just-re-assembled-yesterday black canti-Sam. Chris rode his Homer. I was on kid duty today so I rode my Bocco'd Big Dummy and brought along my 5 and 6 year old kids. Pics... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157635007757736/ Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Love the Drops.
Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: SHIMANO RX100 DUAL-PIVOT CALIPERS
SHIMANO RX100 DUAL-PIVOT CALIPERS 47--57mm brake drop Bolt on nut fitting (NOT Allen nut) Koolstop brake pads Excellent condition (small scratches on rear brake) $60 shipped in U.S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
I love drops. I have drop bars on all my bikes. I run 'em high on the Bombadil, and run 'em low on my new lightweight rando bike. I run them in between on the other bikes, including my Hilsen. Drops are where it's at, for me. If I ever get around to a Betty Foy build, it also will be with drops. No question about it. On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:38:07 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Portland: Eastside triple bump tour?
Meine Damen und Herren: It wasn't really a call for an immediate ride but a suggestion for a near-term future event. Since the first job of any ride leader is to just pick a goddamned date already, I'll work on that. cc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Love the Drops.
My town bikes have upright bars--great for riding a few miles across Davis, but for anything longer I use drop bars. I've tried mustache bars on two different bikes with no success--just can't find a comfortable hand position for long rides. --Eric Norris Email: campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
Shawn: I just got back from a two-day 120mi/200km ride with a large saddlesack in the rear (on the rear top rack) and two swift mini short stack panniers on, plus a basket on the top of the (recently and no longer) discounted big front rack. This was on the 57cm Hilsen. The weight was distributed roughly 45/55 back/front, probably close to 50lbs/22kg on the racks combined. This front loading was partly unintentional, because I had a small igloo cooler in a basket strapped to the big front rack, with eggs, milk, bacon, and butter, most of which was procured en-route. You really have no idea how heavy hydrated fat gets. :) The route was mostly along the Columbia River Gorge, with plenty of climbing and descents, and a decent amount of wind. Other than the weight, I found the handling to be admirable, although I think I was at the limit of what I'd be comfortable putting up on the front end. I'll definitely try and move more weight to the rear. I say this because my arms are a bit tired today. I'll post a more comprehensive report regarding the ride later, when the pictures are done. cc On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:26 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Shawn: I've toured a fair bit with my Atlantis with various loading schemes. For self-contained camping, I use 4 bags find the handling best with the weight evenly distributed or somewhat more in the front pair. On lodging trips I'll use 2 bags in the front low riders. I always have an Acorn Boxy rando bag on a mini-rack on the front, sometimes add a saddlebag to the rear for extra clothes, food, water, etc. You'll have to try different configurations for yourself to find out what works best for you and your riding style. Some people really notice differences with just a few pounds of load while others are unfazed by 25 lbs at one end or the other. IME, once I get over 25 lbs it's nice to split it up, front to back. dougP On Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:15:42 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: Right now, I run either a Large Saddlesack or panniers on a Nitto Big Rear Rack on my 54cm Hunqapillar, with a basket on a mini front for a little extra weight in front, and it works pretty good. But I'm curious if I wouldn't be happier with a Big Front Rack with panniers and a basket. Can anyone share there experience with this kind of load? I feel like I want more weight up front, more than I'm comfortable with putting on the Mini-Front, and I want the weight a bit lower, too. I'd probably keep the Big Rack in back for longer trips. I'm curious as to how it handles, both loaded and unloaded. Anyone run a setup like this? Thanks, Shawn M. Seattle, WA (Fremont) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
The final photo on the Betty Foy page shows a Betty with Sackville panniers up front and no rear rack at all! I think that's Keven's Betty Foy. Call him and ask him. I'm sure he'd be happy to talk about it with you. I know he loves his Betty Foy. On Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:15:42 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: Right now, I run either a Large Saddlesack or panniers on a Nitto Big Rear Rack on my 54cm Hunqapillar, with a basket on a mini front for a little extra weight in front, and it works pretty good. But I'm curious if I wouldn't be happier with a Big Front Rack with panniers and a basket. Can anyone share there experience with this kind of load? I feel like I want more weight up front, more than I'm comfortable with putting on the Mini-Front, and I want the weight a bit lower, too. I'd probably keep the Big Rack in back for longer trips. I'm curious as to how it handles, both loaded and unloaded. Anyone run a setup like this? Thanks, Shawn M. Seattle, WA (Fremont) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Hi, Hugh I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the Moustache and Albatross thing (I still have Albatrosses mounted on my old kid-hauling Stumpjumper), but Noodles rule for all my riding needs - commuting, off road, pavement, whatever. Noodles are the only pain-free bar for me, too. Moustache and Albatross bars are both really fun for about 15-20 miles, and then they start to cause pain, at least for me. Noodles keep me moving around and happy. Glad you're enjoying that great bike of yours! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Love the Drops.
Hi Hugh,
A timely post. On Saturday I changed from Noodles to Albatross bars. Did a
300 plus mile tour with the drops and felt something was missing. So...on
went the Albatross bars. First ride using them was yesterday. Did about 40
miles. So far I really like them here is why:
1. More up right. I can see better not only the cars, but the environment
as a whole. At the speed the bike goes I like to look around and see the
sights.
2. My hands seem to fall naturally on the cork grips.
3. Good for climbing hills. I can stand up and really pedal.
4. A wide variety of hand positions; on the cork, just in front over the
brakes, on the tape in front of the cork, or for more areo on the curves
and just to the left and right of the stem.
5. Breaking is more positive for me as well.
6. The nature of my riding changed. I had more fun with the Albs.
Was it riding
something new or the position? Time will tell.
So Hugh, I will be happy to let you ride my Hilsen on the up coming rumble
so you can get a first hand experience.
Peace,
Curtis
On Monday, August 12, 2013, Bryan wrote:
Hi, Hugh
I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the
Moustache and Albatross thing (I still have Albatrosses mounted on my old
kid-hauling Stumpjumper), but Noodles rule for all my riding needs -
commuting, off road, pavement, whatever. Noodles are the only pain-free bar
for me, too. Moustache and Albatross bars are both really fun for about
15-20 miles, and then they start to cause pain, at least for me. Noodles
keep me moving around and happy.
Glad you're enjoying that great bike of yours!
Bryan
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[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Hugh: You've really captured a feeling in your description of you ride. Those times are truly special. As to the bars, I've always been comfortable with drops but occasionally muse on trying an upright bar on my Atlantis. I've tried Moustache bars on another bike couldn't get used to them. Drops have more hand positions and allow the rider to sit at various back angles. Mine are high enough that I'm virtually upright when my hands are on the tops. When headwinds kick in, drops let the rider hide a bit from the wind. Off-road is where I think uprights may have a place, especially with braking. I suspect that aero levers, even with good quality brake cable housing, lose some force compared to MTB brake levers. Uprights also seem to fall into the 55-60 cm range in width, providing greater leverage than even wide drops. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:38:07 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
I have always loved the drops, and almost all my adult bikes have had them. I guess it's partly because I came to love biking during the '70s bike boom, and that's how the bikes were set up. So I got comfortable on those. Then I tried some more-or-less Alba-type bars (on a nice Schwinn 5-speed) and discovered I really didn't like them. I suspect the reason has less to do with what I'm used to than that I'm a pianist, and it bugs me to keep my hands in one place for any period of time. I need the change of positions, it seems. Joe K On Monday, August 12, 2013 1:38:07 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Paul Mini-Moto + SimpleOne + Resist 700x45
I had Subtour XC Pro cantis. They worked fine. It was my birthday and I treated myself! Luckily there is 0 rack interference but I think fenders would be a no go. The tires are great for the money. They aren't Gran Bois but I think they are nicer than Paselas for a little less. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Chris, I can be as impatient as the next fellow, probably more so, but I'd point out that Rivendell is not in the business of repairing frames. This task is out of the normal order of things for them, they are at the mercy of two subcontractors who each have their own pipeline of work and their own priorities, and they are losing money on the whole deal. Grant didn't respond personally after your complaint simply because he took the complaint, flipped it to one of his employees, and told the employee to take care of you. That process produced results with which you should be, IMO, happy, and for which you should be, IMO, grateful. It may be a small company, but Grant probably works 50 or 60 hours a week - or more -- taking care of everything he normally has to take care of, and at 7:30 at night when he's been there for eleven hours he wants to go home to his family. In my experience, folks work longer hours at small companies than at large ones. I'm sympathetic to your frustration, I'm sympathetic to your missing your bike, and I'm sympathetic to your impatience, but I'm not sympathetic to your complaining about this process, either publicly or directly to Rivendell. Be grateful. You used to have a $2000 frame (speaking approximately, and in today's dollars) which ten years later broke and was then worth next to nothing, and they are going to hand you back a nice, shiny, new(-ish) $2000 frame. Smile, be grateful, count your blessings. If it's a 60, and if they're restoring it to orange, I'd be pleased to take it off your hands. :-) ~peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Man, that's a bummer I hope you get it back, or your insurance helps you get a new one. For what it's worth, I keep my commuters in the garage , locked up, in addition to locking the garage. My Rivs I keep in the house (I rent the top part of the duplex). It's a pretty good neighbourhood, but there are people trolling up and down back lanes looking for easy prey (and garage fires are , regrettably, not uncommon as well). That being said, it's a total bummer that you lost your bike. I would like to think that some Chica Warrior will rescue it. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 6:03:58 PM UTC-5, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult. I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
The used Romulus I recently purchased took. I believe from what the original owner mentioned, three months to be returned for the same type of repair. That was a few years ago and of course it had to be shipped to Canada but when you are dealing with more than one business in order to complete the frame repair - not to mention the possibility of back logged orders with the frame builder and or painter. Customer service is more important today than ever for better or worse - one of the best companies out there that I have dealt with is SVS that specializes in sub woofers, as well as Oppo ( blu ray players ). Both are smaller internet companies and are having to sell products in a very competitive market ( nothing new there ) but the quality and service keeps them successful. Rivendell is fortunate to have a specialized product in demand which helps and yes, I think Grant and his employees do all they reasonably can to help their customers. I think they could improve their communication which can make all the difference. On Monday, 17 June 2013 08:09:57 UTC-7, chris wrote: I was on a ride last Saturday in the Gold Country in CA and the chain stay broke through on the drive side at the rear dropout. I bought the Ram new in 2003. Fortunately no injury. I stopped at Riv on my way home and spoke to Scott who told me to leave the bike and Kevin would get back to me today regarding repair which would involve sending the bike to a local builder. Scott mentioned that Riv now beefs up the rear dropout area on frames. Has anyone had a similar experience with their Riv.? I've always loved the Ram and it appears fixable. Not sure if there is any type of warranty. Chris San Jose -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet
Peter, you hit the nail on the head!To Chris: be patient, and I bet you'll be delighted with your newly repaired and painted frame. Be sure to post photos when you get your frame back, and remember, the folks at Rivendell are all great people or they wouldn't be working there. They are blowing peoples' minds, creating/reviving bicycle experiences daily, but also putting out fires daily, as such are the perils of being a small shop. Similarly, whether your frame was repaired by Bernie Mikkelsen or Steve Rex, you are extremely fortunate.To me, the fact that Rivendell is such a small shop makes it even more amazing that they are able to take such good care of their demanding customers- not just any customers, but people with uncommon bicycle priorities, so to speak. Matt On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:03:45 PM UTC-4, pb wrote: Chris, I can be as impatient as the next fellow, probably more so, but I'd point out that Rivendell is not in the business of repairing frames. This task is out of the normal order of things for them, they are at the mercy of two subcontractors who each have their own pipeline of work and their own priorities, and they are losing money on the whole deal. Grant didn't respond personally after your complaint simply because he took the complaint, flipped it to one of his employees, and told the employee to take care of you. That process produced results with which you should be, IMO, happy, and for which you should be, IMO, grateful. It may be a small company, but Grant probably works 50 or 60 hours a week - or more -- taking care of everything he normally has to take care of, and at 7:30 at night when he's been there for eleven hours he wants to go home to his family. In my experience, folks work longer hours at small companies than at large ones. I'm sympathetic to your frustration, I'm sympathetic to your missing your bike, and I'm sympathetic to your impatience, but I'm not sympathetic to your complaining about this process, either publicly or directly to Rivendell. Be grateful. You used to have a $2000 frame (speaking approximately, and in today's dollars) which ten years later broke and was then worth next to nothing, and they are going to hand you back a nice, shiny, new(-ish) $2000 frame. Smile, be grateful, count your blessings. If it's a 60, and if they're restoring it to orange, I'd be pleased to take it off your hands. :-) ~peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Great description, Hugh. What you describe is exactly what I felt when I test rode a Homer. I had been thinking Atlantis, Sam or possibly a Hunqa. But the test ride Homer fit perfectly and cajoled me forward. The Atlantis, Sam and Hunqa were all suddenly in 2nd place. Regarding bars... I have 3 bikes that I ride regularly... Homer w/ 48 Noodles, Jackalope city bike w/ Albas, and Big Dummy cargo bike w/ Bosco Bars. They all (the different bars) seem to have their place. I think about swapping the Noodles/Albas on the Homer/Jackalope but I think to get the most out of it I'd have to change several other things too, so laziness leaves things how they are. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
Hi Shawn, I think the information stated by Andy, Doug Christopher is dead on...I'll add I did a 260 mile tour with about sixty pounds and ran panniers in the back low-riders up front with a basket. What I found was that the handling suffered with the basket load (even 5 lbs) especially on low speed hill climbs. I suffered in my arms shoulder blades with the constant micro-adjustments I had to make, which sounds like what Christopher experienced. On a recent mini-tour I left the basket behind and kept the panniers on front back and reduced the load to about 32 lbs total gear plus pannier weight and my Hilsen handled really well. My caveat though is you have a Hungapillar which is stouter than a Hilsen so your max load could be higher and handle really well. Also Doug has a mid-trail (not trying to make this another mid/low trail discussion) fork and his front end handling may be slightly different than your's. I plan on increasing the load in the future to see the difference. I'll be interested what you do with feedback. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
I have to say, I love the basket so much, that if I were to go next time, I'd just keep it empty--it's so damn handy in case you find something along the way you'd want to carry for a short distance--firewood, for example. :) On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shawn, I think the information stated by Andy, Doug Christopher is dead on...I'll add I did a 260 mile tour with about sixty pounds and ran panniers in the back low-riders up front with a basket. What I found was that the handling suffered with the basket load (even 5 lbs) especially on low speed hill climbs. I suffered in my arms shoulder blades with the constant micro-adjustments I had to make, which sounds like what Christopher experienced. On a recent mini-tour I left the basket behind and kept the panniers on front back and reduced the load to about 32 lbs total gear plus pannier weight and my Hilsen handled really well. My caveat though is you have a Hungapillar which is stouter than a Hilsen so your max load could be higher and handle really well. Also Doug has a mid-trail (not trying to make this another mid/low trail discussion) fork and his front end handling may be slightly different than your's. I plan on increasing the load in the future to see the difference. I'll be interested what you do with feedback. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Summer Riding.
Summer is almost over trying to jam as much riding as I can before school starts Pedicabing with good old friends Grant shows Sean and I how to ride hills. Another lesson Wisdom beats youth and skill anyday Worse Stats for a group ride yet. - 2 crashes. - 1 flat tire - 2 bonked riders. - 3 out of 4 finishers. Good time overall. Pictures proved that Fall is just around the corner. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHsR1HG -Manny Summer is almost done. But the riding continues Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Summer Riding.
Grand photos! Thanks. I'll bite on several things: -- the secret to climbing is ... ? -- what did you do with the carcass of the 4th rider? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, August 12, 2013 4:51:28 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: Summer is almost over trying to jam as much riding as I can before school starts Pedicabing with good old friends Grant shows Sean and I how to ride hills. Another lesson Wisdom beats youth and skill anyday Worse Stats for a group ride yet. - 2 crashes. - 1 flat tire - 2 bonked riders. - 3 out of 4 finishers. Good time overall. Pictures proved that Fall is just around the corner. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHsR1HG -Manny Summer is almost done. But the riding continues Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
Christopher, I get that. It really is handy. ~Hugh On Monday, August 12, 2013 3:49:07 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: I have to say, I love the basket so much, that if I were to go next time, I'd just keep it empty--it's so damn handy in case you find something along the way you'd want to carry for a short distance--firewood, for example. :) On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Shawn, I think the information stated by Andy, Doug Christopher is dead on...I'll add I did a 260 mile tour with about sixty pounds and ran panniers in the back low-riders up front with a basket. What I found was that the handling suffered with the basket load (even 5 lbs) especially on low speed hill climbs. I suffered in my arms shoulder blades with the constant micro-adjustments I had to make, which sounds like what Christopher experienced. On a recent mini-tour I left the basket behind and kept the panniers on front back and reduced the load to about 32 lbs total gear plus pannier weight and my Hilsen handled really well. My caveat though is you have a Hungapillar which is stouter than a Hilsen so your max load could be higher and handle really well. Also Doug has a mid-trail (not trying to make this another mid/low trail discussion) fork and his front end handling may be slightly different than your's. I plan on increasing the load in the future to see the difference. I'll be interested what you do with feedback. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Summer Riding.
I should add that the main technique I've learned from Grant on climbing hills, I learned from chapter 4 of Just Ride. Works great for loaded touring bikes, though with my vertigo, it took me a year to get rather than the 10 minutes he suggests. I'm a slow coach. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, August 12, 2013 4:51:28 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: Summer is almost over trying to jam as much riding as I can before school starts Pedicabing with good old friends Grant shows Sean and I how to ride hills. Another lesson Wisdom beats youth and skill anyday Worse Stats for a group ride yet. - 2 crashes. - 1 flat tire - 2 bonked riders. - 3 out of 4 finishers. Good time overall. Pictures proved that Fall is just around the corner. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHsR1HG -Manny Summer is almost done. But the riding continues Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 60cm Saluki
These seem to come up occasionally, but never when I'm flush with funds. I'm hoping to find a 60cm Saluki - butterscotch only / either canti or extra-long reach caliper version / complete bike or frameset. I'd appreciate a note if anyone has one for sale or knows of one. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Now the Bike Book and Hatchett T's are available
I've got so many Riv T's it's silly, but still the BBH version makes me smile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Pass and Stow Front Rack/Freight Baggage bag
I am selling a black Pass and Stow Porteur rack and the matched Freight Baggage bag. I bought both Spring '12 and both are in great shape. Rack has light mount and is black. Bag is Navy blue/yellow accents/yellow interior. The rack was made to easily fit a smaller bike (my Atlantis is a 52cm0. It is pretty adjustable. I am just not a porteur kind of guy. Flickr group pictures - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157635049651924/ Pass and Stow link - http://www.passstow.com Freight baggage link - http://www.freightbags.com/collections/store/products/black-porteur-rack-bag Ecovelo review - http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/24/freight-baggage-rack-bag/ I would like $225 with free shipping to CONUS. This is less than the rack itself would cost without the six week wait for either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
David, Here is my count. 1.Me 2.Doug 3.Evan 4.You 5.Curtis 6.Mike 7.Tom 8.Jim ? 9.Estaban? 10Mitch? So I have a confirmed 8 counting Jim in as I think he was in but might drive down later. I haven't heard whether Estaban was a confirmed participant also I haven't heard back from Mitch as he lives the furthest SLO and said he wasn't setup for camping. Also, Doug said he had three friends that were interested but was holding off to see how many confirmed we ended up with. The site capacity is for 8 but since we won't have any auto's we can probably get away with now I'm guessing here 12 that's an additional 4. As a bail out plan I suppose the worst case scenario would be to take a motel in SC? I just checked there are 10 sites currently available perhaps you could book one then were good for 16 campers. It will cost $43 for the night. Go to http://www.reserveamerica.com Then Your friends and Doug's are covered. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
Then again...one could just strap wood to a front rack or a six pack depending on your sense of priorities. ~Hugh On Monday, August 12, 2013 3:49:07 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: I have to say, I love the basket so much, that if I were to go next time, I'd just keep it empty--it's so damn handy in case you find something along the way you'd want to carry for a short distance--firewood, for example. :) On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Shawn, I think the information stated by Andy, Doug Christopher is dead on...I'll add I did a 260 mile tour with about sixty pounds and ran panniers in the back low-riders up front with a basket. What I found was that the handling suffered with the basket load (even 5 lbs) especially on low speed hill climbs. I suffered in my arms shoulder blades with the constant micro-adjustments I had to make, which sounds like what Christopher experienced. On a recent mini-tour I left the basket behind and kept the panniers on front back and reduced the load to about 32 lbs total gear plus pannier weight and my Hilsen handled really well. My caveat though is you have a Hungapillar which is stouter than a Hilsen so your max load could be higher and handle really well. Also Doug has a mid-trail (not trying to make this another mid/low trail discussion) fork and his front end handling may be slightly different than your's. I plan on increasing the load in the future to see the difference. I'll be interested what you do with feedback. Best, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Hey Bryan, Thanks I am enjoying the Hilsen. We need to get a ride in soon. I figure you've been busy of late. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bryan bwedg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hugh I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the Moustache and Albatross thing (I still have Albatrosses mounted on my old kid-hauling Stumpjumper), but Noodles rule for all my riding needs - commuting, off road, pavement, whatever. Noodles are the only pain-free bar for me, too. Moustache and Albatross bars are both really fun for about 15-20 miles, and then they start to cause pain, at least for me. Noodles keep me moving around and happy. Glad you're enjoying that great bike of yours! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/b80jn7O5C9w/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Pass and Stow Front Rack/Freight Baggage bag
Sale pending -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Hugh, Your post made me feel a bit of nostalgia for my 41cm Noodles! I envy your comfort on the Noodles because for me I could never quite find them relaxed. If only I had a longer arms, and didn't have as much of a reach (with even the shortest stem) I'd probably have kept them. I dig the the Noodles, but I guess the Albas provided a more comfortable fit with the drawback of being a bit less aerodynamic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Thanks All! Well, the good news is USAA (my insurance) will pay for replacement cost - I've never made a claim before -- so I'm thrilled about that. . . It does make the pain a bit less. I still think it's so unique (like many of the Rivs) that it seems impossible it won't turn up! On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:12 PM, DianeB chapstick2...@gmail.com wrote: Pammie, I'm so sorry to read that that beautiful mixte has been stolen from you. I hope it's found soon. On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:20:38 AM UTC-6, Pammie wrote: And, I believe this was bike was talked about before on the blog -- if you know anyone in Socal -- please forward. . . . I am heartbroken -- I bought the frame from Lovely Bicycle (a popular blog) -- and Bryan Hollingsworth (the framebuilder) at Royal H says he had another bike stolen last week -- so careful with your babies!! On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult.I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Hugh, Thank you so much for organizing this. The following is the source of my ambiguity, quoted from my school district's start-up meeting calendar: Friday, August 23, we will be meeting at Peninsula High School for our 9-12 District Professional Development Day starting at 8:00AM. Around 3PM, PV and Pen staff will be having a kick-off mixer (more info to come). What this means is that I have no idea when I can join you all for the ride. Even if I don't go to the mixer, if I'm not free until 3, I'm screwed with So. Cal Friday traffic. I figure I'll be joining the ride Saturday morning. So I will not insist on dibs on camping room. -Jim On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Hugh Smitham wrote: David, Here is my count. 1.Me 2.Doug 3.Evan 4.You 5.Curtis 6.Mike 7.Tom 8.Jim ? 9.Estaban? 10Mitch? So I have a confirmed 8 counting Jim in as I think he was in but might drive down later. I haven't heard whether Estaban was a confirmed participant also I haven't heard back from Mitch as he lives the furthest SLO and said he wasn't setup for camping. Also, Doug said he had three friends that were interested but was holding off to see how many confirmed we ended up with. The site capacity is for 8 but since we won't have any auto's we can probably get away with now I'm guessing here 12 that's an additional 4. As a bail out plan I suppose the worst case scenario would be to take a motel in SC? I just checked there are 10 sites currently available perhaps you could book one then were good for 16 campers. It will cost $43 for the night. Go to http://www.reserveamerica.com Then Your friends and Doug's are covered. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Mitch has a prior commitment. I'll pass on inviting my buds as it looks like we're close to capacity. For anyone planning on joining us on Saturday AM, such as Jim, there is a free public parking lot adjacent to Carl's Jr. Park there ride inland on Christianitos to San Mateo. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:57:33 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: David, Here is my count. 1.Me 2.Doug 3.Evan 4.You 5.Curtis 6.Mike 7.Tom 8.Jim ? 9.Estaban? 10Mitch? So I have a confirmed 8 counting Jim in as I think he was in but might drive down later. I haven't heard whether Estaban was a confirmed participant also I haven't heard back from Mitch as he lives the furthest SLO and said he wasn't setup for camping. Also, Doug said he had three friends that were interested but was holding off to see how many confirmed we ended up with. The site capacity is for 8 but since we won't have any auto's we can probably get away with now I'm guessing here 12 that's an additional 4. As a bail out plan I suppose the worst case scenario would be to take a motel in SC? I just checked there are 10 sites currently available perhaps you could book one then were good for 16 campers. It will cost $43 for the night. Go to http://www.reserveamerica.com Then Your friends and Doug's are covered. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Then my count David is 7 confirmed for Friday ride camping so invite your friends unless it like 20. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Mitch has a prior commitment. I'll pass on inviting my buds as it looks like we're close to capacity. For anyone planning on joining us on Saturday AM, such as Jim, there is a free public parking lot adjacent to Carl's Jr. Park there ride inland on Christianitos to San Mateo. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:57:33 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: David, Here is my count. 1.Me 2.Doug 3.Evan 4.You 5.Curtis 6.Mike 7.Tom 8.Jim ? 9.Estaban? 10Mitch? So I have a confirmed 8 counting Jim in as I think he was in but might drive down later. I haven't heard whether Estaban was a confirmed participant also I haven't heard back from Mitch as he lives the furthest SLO and said he wasn't setup for camping. Also, Doug said he had three friends that were interested but was holding off to see how many confirmed we ended up with. The site capacity is for 8 but since we won't have any auto's we can probably get away with now I'm guessing here 12 that's an additional 4. As a bail out plan I suppose the worst case scenario would be to take a motel in SC? I just checked there are 10 sites currently available perhaps you could book one then were good for 16 campers. It will cost $43 for the night. Go to http://www.reserveamerica.**com http://www.reserveamerica.com/ Then Your friends and Doug's are covered. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/**4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Comfort is king. Aero only matters in a headwind or hurry. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 6:27:11 PM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote: Hugh, Your post made me feel a bit of nostalgia for my 41cm Noodles! I envy your comfort on the Noodles because for me I could never quite find them relaxed. If only I had a longer arms, and didn't have as much of a reach (with even the shortest stem) I'd probably have kept them. I dig the the Noodles, but I guess the Albas provided a more comfortable fit with the drawback of being a bit less aerodynamic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Love the Drops.
Curtis, I appreciate the offer however the differential between my Hilsen 58 cm and your 67cm Hilsen probably wouldn't be the most effective trial geometry. I'd have to plant my magic bean just to mount your bike friendly giant. I will give it a go just for the humor of it. Of course it's all based on individual need and I'm sure I'll love a bicycle outfitted with an albatross or stash bar. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hugh, A timely post. On Saturday I changed from Noodles to Albatross bars. Did a 300 plus mile tour with the drops and felt something was missing. So...on went the Albatross bars. First ride using them was yesterday. Did about 40 miles. So far I really like them here is why: 1. More up right. I can see better not only the cars, but the environment as a whole. At the speed the bike goes I like to look around and see the sights. 2. My hands seem to fall naturally on the cork grips. 3. Good for climbing hills. I can stand up and really pedal. 4. A wide variety of hand positions; on the cork, just in front over the brakes, on the tape in front of the cork, or for more areo on the curves and just to the left and right of the stem. 5. Breaking is more positive for me as well. 6. The nature of my riding changed. I had more fun with the Albs. Was it riding something new or the position? Time will tell. So Hugh, I will be happy to let you ride my Hilsen on the up coming rumble so you can get a first hand experience. Peace, Curtis On Monday, August 12, 2013, Bryan wrote: Hi, Hugh I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the Moustache and Albatross thing (I still have Albatrosses mounted on my old kid-hauling Stumpjumper), but Noodles rule for all my riding needs - commuting, off road, pavement, whatever. Noodles are the only pain-free bar for me, too. Moustache and Albatross bars are both really fun for about 15-20 miles, and then they start to cause pain, at least for me. Noodles keep me moving around and happy. Glad you're enjoying that great bike of yours! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/b80jn7O5C9w/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Paul Mini-Moto + SimpleOne + Resist 700x45
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Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Andy. Thanks for the kind words. As far as bars go if I had the bikes you speak of I'm sure I'd love up right bars on a cargo or strictly city bicycle. I remember considering the Atlantis, Hillborne and Hilsen , the Hilsen obviously won because it promised to carry a medium load but was willing to get up and go, It was so nimble. With my noodle's I count at the least 5 different hand positions: 1.Hoods, 2. Behind the Hoods on the flat,. 3.On the curve,. 4.Top of the bars close to the stem and 5.The drops ...yeah I won't be changing anytime soon. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Great description, Hugh. What you describe is exactly what I felt when I test rode a Homer. I had been thinking Atlantis, Sam or possibly a Hunqa. But the test ride Homer fit perfectly and cajoled me forward. The Atlantis, Sam and Hunqa were all suddenly in 2nd place. Regarding bars... I have 3 bikes that I ride regularly... Homer w/ 48 Noodles, Jackalope city bike w/ Albas, and Big Dummy cargo bike w/ Bosco Bars. They all (the different bars) seem to have their place. I think about swapping the Noodles/Albas on the Homer/Jackalope but I think to get the most out of it I'd have to change several other things too, so laziness leaves things how they are. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/b80jn7O5C9w/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Summer Riding.
Deacon, -- the secret to climbing is ... ? In the handbook it say's to stand up and rock back n forth, by the looks of Manny' pic's the other secret apparently is to get off and push which IIRC you have mastered both. Cheers, ~Hugh On Monday, August 12, 2013 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Grand photos! Thanks. I'll bite on several things: -- the secret to climbing is ... ? -- what did you do with the carcass of the 4th rider? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, August 12, 2013 4:51:28 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: Summer is almost over trying to jam as much riding as I can before school starts Pedicabing with good old friends Grant shows Sean and I how to ride hills. Another lesson Wisdom beats youth and skill anyday Worse Stats for a group ride yet. - 2 crashes. - 1 flat tire - 2 bonked riders. - 3 out of 4 finishers. Good time overall. Pictures proved that Fall is just around the corner. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHsR1HG -Manny Summer is almost done. But the riding continues Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
Albas and M-bars are great, but lack that extra position in the drops that I find necessary on longer rides (3 hrs). Yes there are multiple hand positions on those bars, but they're on the same plane, so my arm, neck and shoulder muscles don't get enough change in the ride to be most comfortable. I don't ride in the drops that much, but having them as an option is quite helpful. On 8/12/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Andy. Thanks for the kind words. As far as bars go if I had the bikes you speak of I'm sure I'd love up right bars on a cargo or strictly city bicycle. I remember considering the Atlantis, Hillborne and Hilsen , the Hilsen obviously won because it promised to carry a medium load but was willing to get up and go, It was so nimble. With my noodle's I count at the least 5 different hand positions: 1.Hoods, 2. Behind the Hoods on the flat,. 3.On the curve,. 4.Top of the bars close to the stem and 5.The drops ...yeah I won't be changing anytime soon. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Great description, Hugh. What you describe is exactly what I felt when I test rode a Homer. I had been thinking Atlantis, Sam or possibly a Hunqa. But the test ride Homer fit perfectly and cajoled me forward. The Atlantis, Sam and Hunqa were all suddenly in 2nd place. Regarding bars... I have 3 bikes that I ride regularly... Homer w/ 48 Noodles, Jackalope city bike w/ Albas, and Big Dummy cargo bike w/ Bosco Bars. They all (the different bars) seem to have their place. I think about swapping the Noodles/Albas on the Homer/Jackalope but I think to get the most out of it I'd have to change several other things too, so laziness leaves things how they are. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/b80jn7O5C9w/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
It's just two, so I'll let them know. They're both Riv-Ride alums, so should be grand-fathered in! On 8/12/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Then my count David is 7 confirmed for Friday ride camping so invite your friends unless it like 20. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Mitch has a prior commitment. I'll pass on inviting my buds as it looks like we're close to capacity. For anyone planning on joining us on Saturday AM, such as Jim, there is a free public parking lot adjacent to Carl's Jr. Park there ride inland on Christianitos to San Mateo. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:57:33 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: David, Here is my count. 1.Me 2.Doug 3.Evan 4.You 5.Curtis 6.Mike 7.Tom 8.Jim ? 9.Estaban? 10Mitch? So I have a confirmed 8 counting Jim in as I think he was in but might drive down later. I haven't heard whether Estaban was a confirmed participant also I haven't heard back from Mitch as he lives the furthest SLO and said he wasn't setup for camping. Also, Doug said he had three friends that were interested but was holding off to see how many confirmed we ended up with. The site capacity is for 8 but since we won't have any auto's we can probably get away with now I'm guessing here 12 that's an additional 4. As a bail out plan I suppose the worst case scenario would be to take a motel in SC? I just checked there are 10 sites currently available perhaps you could book one then were good for 16 campers. It will cost $43 for the night. Go to http://www.reserveamerica.**com http://www.reserveamerica.com/ Then Your friends and Doug's are covered. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Hugh, do you have an updated count? Some of my locals are interested but I don't know how much dirt is left to sleep on. On 8/12/13, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in riding up from North County on Friday, let me know. I can't spend the night so it has to be early enough for me to get home before dark. Thanks. Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/**4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4mHdM9P2lK0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
no disagreement here... I have 46 cm Noodles on all of my bikes I ride any distance on (well one has Soba's...but it's the same design). Even have a spare set or two sitting in storage for the next bike project. I'm trying upright bars on my new city bike but it just doesn't feel right...yet. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting Issues Question for the Mechanic Types
The bolt holding the derailer clamp on the downtube might have loosened as well, causing the derailer to spin on the tube. They spin down and clockwise. Just something else to check... On 8/11/13, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing that could have happened is that when the bike was shipped, the FD cable/housing popped out of sitting flush in the frame, so the housing ferrule is sitting on the frame in a way that is different from how it should be. This has happened to me when unboxing a bike. Just a thought. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Monday Night Shrimp Taco Ride
Took a ride across San Diego to get some excellent shrimp tacos at Mitch's Seafood along San Diego Bay. This is the second ride with the Albas. So far so good for the new bars. Photos to prove it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157635045847267/ Peace, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Pictures from the Panther Creek Falls Gran Carbo s480
Hello! Last weekend, 10 folks left Portland for the Columbia River Gorge and Panther Creek Falls in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. The distance was 60 miles from start to finish each way, roughly: Portland to Troutdale via Marine Drive, which runs along the Columbia River past both the Portland and Troutdale airports. Troutdale to Cascade Locks via the Historic Columbia River Highway, which leads past Crown Point, and multiple waterfalls, the most famous of which is Multnomah Falls. We were able to travel on the not-yet-opened-but-substantially-complete section of the Historic Columbia River Highway Trail east of Cascade Locks Cascade Locks to Stephenson via the Bridge of The Gods and WA SR-14, stopping for a brew or two at the Walking Man Brewery in Stephenson. Stephenson to Panther Creek Falls Campground via WA SR-14, Wind River Rd, and Old State Rd (USFS 65). The campground is relatively spacious, with vault toilets and at least two well pumps. Panther Creek flows right by, and there were small bathing pools laid out in river rock. The next morning we enjoyed a waffle and bacon breakfast prepared by myself with the assistance of my Sous Chef, Maria. Fortified, we climbed up and gained a fair amount of elevation the next 3 miles on USFS 65 to see the actual Panther Creek Falls, which are spectacular. The ride back was rather uneventful, and went rather easily, with a net elevation loss. Wait, that's not totally true--there were delicious burgers in Cascade Locks at the Char Burger, along with Malt Shakes. The ride ended at Velo Cult in Portland, where beers and chess were enjoyed well into the evening. Technical notes: There is no way I'm carrying waffle kit on anything farther than a short range (50km) s24o without bribes again. Pictures proved it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157635045689329/ Cheers cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Pictures from the Panther Creek Falls Gran Carbo s480
I just figured out where I want the Riv Jamboree to be: right there, in Gifford Pinchot. With WAFFLES and BACON. I have ridden most of the route described, but without any waffles. The only bad part (other than that when I rode it, I had no waffles and bacon) was the damn stairs (pictured) on the bike path. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Hello! Last weekend, 10 folks left Portland for the Columbia River Gorge and Panther Creek Falls in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. The distance was 60 miles from start to finish each way, roughly: Portland to Troutdale via Marine Drive, which runs along the Columbia River past both the Portland and Troutdale airports. Troutdale to Cascade Locks via the Historic Columbia River Highway, which leads past Crown Point, and multiple waterfalls, the most famous of which is Multnomah Falls. We were able to travel on the not-yet-opened-but-substantially-complete section of the Historic Columbia River Highway Trail east of Cascade Locks Cascade Locks to Stephenson via the Bridge of The Gods and WA SR-14, stopping for a brew or two at the Walking Man Brewery in Stephenson. Stephenson to Panther Creek Falls Campground via WA SR-14, Wind River Rd, and Old State Rd (USFS 65). The campground is relatively spacious, with vault toilets and at least two well pumps. Panther Creek flows right by, and there were small bathing pools laid out in river rock. The next morning we enjoyed a waffle and bacon breakfast prepared by myself with the assistance of my Sous Chef, Maria. Fortified, we climbed up and gained a fair amount of elevation the next 3 miles on USFS 65 to see the actual Panther Creek Falls, which are spectacular. The ride back was rather uneventful, and went rather easily, with a net elevation loss. Wait, that's not totally true--there were delicious burgers in Cascade Locks at the Char Burger, along with Malt Shakes. The ride ended at Velo Cult in Portland, where beers and chess were enjoyed well into the evening. Technical notes: There is no way I'm carrying waffle kit on anything farther than a short range (50km) s24o without bribes again. Pictures proved it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157635045689329/ Cheers cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Pictures from the Panther Creek Falls Gran Carbo s480
So I take it that you like waffles and bacon? On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I just figured out where I want the Riv Jamboree to be: right there, in Gifford Pinchot. With WAFFLES and BACON. I have ridden most of the route described, but without any waffles. The only bad part (other than that when I rode it, I had no waffles and bacon) was the damn stairs (pictured) on the bike path. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Hello! Last weekend, 10 folks left Portland for the Columbia River Gorge and Panther Creek Falls in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. The distance was 60 miles from start to finish each way, roughly: Portland to Troutdale via Marine Drive, which runs along the Columbia River past both the Portland and Troutdale airports. Troutdale to Cascade Locks via the Historic Columbia River Highway, which leads past Crown Point, and multiple waterfalls, the most famous of which is Multnomah Falls. We were able to travel on the not-yet-opened-but-substantially-complete section of the Historic Columbia River Highway Trail east of Cascade Locks Cascade Locks to Stephenson via the Bridge of The Gods and WA SR-14, stopping for a brew or two at the Walking Man Brewery in Stephenson. Stephenson to Panther Creek Falls Campground via WA SR-14, Wind River Rd, and Old State Rd (USFS 65). The campground is relatively spacious, with vault toilets and at least two well pumps. Panther Creek flows right by, and there were small bathing pools laid out in river rock. The next morning we enjoyed a waffle and bacon breakfast prepared by myself with the assistance of my Sous Chef, Maria. Fortified, we climbed up and gained a fair amount of elevation the next 3 miles on USFS 65 to see the actual Panther Creek Falls, which are spectacular. The ride back was rather uneventful, and went rather easily, with a net elevation loss. Wait, that's not totally true--there were delicious burgers in Cascade Locks at the Char Burger, along with Malt Shakes. The ride ended at Velo Cult in Portland, where beers and chess were enjoyed well into the evening. Technical notes: There is no way I'm carrying waffle kit on anything farther than a short range (50km) s24o without bribes again. Pictures proved it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157635045689329/ Cheers cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Monday Night Shrimp Taco Ride
Tacos are a great excuse to go for a ride. --Smitty On Monday, August 12, 2013 9:58:21 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Took a ride across San Diego to get some excellent shrimp tacos at Mitch's Seafood along San Diego Bay. This is the second ride with the Albas. So far so good for the new bars. Photos to prove it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157635045847267/ Peace, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
