Re: [RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Chris, yes I will sir.

Erl, Thanks for the compliment and glad you enjoyed it.

~Hugh

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:09 AM, WETH  wrote:

> An inspiring s24o trip description and photographs.  I enjoyed reading it.
> Thanks,
> Erl
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Re: [RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Patrick,

Thank you. Are you talking about Camp 16 as a fixer?

~Hugh

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Fantastic! That fixer-upper sure has a great spot. Maybe that's where I
> should move! Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:57:09 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
>> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
>> never. Read about it here .
>>
>> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>>
>> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight

[bingomck]

Jim, all Roadeos are .65/.45/.65, or just the smaller sizes? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?

[Mike On A Bike]

I don't quite understand the backlash to FS/WTB posts. One lesser (but 
significant) reason that I buy stuff from Rivendell with confidence is 
because I know that if it doesn't work out, I can sell it on here for a 
decent resale value. This encourages trying stuff out, which is inherently 
risky via mail order, and eventually gives others good deals for things 
they may just not consider at retail prices. All in all, I think this 
function promotes more happy riding and less buyer's remorse or nice stuff 
collecting dust. 

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:26:07 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!tags/rbw-owners-bunch/transactions-sell-buy-trade
>
> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:48:36 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> what's the appropriate transaction tag?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> having both bought and sold here, including selling to WTB threads, I'm 
>>> much in favor, but will also note that using the transactions tag is a 
>>> plus.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:15:22 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>>>
 Agreed, soon spring will be here and ride reports and mechanical 
 questions will balance out the parts sales. We probably all have stuff in 
 our parts bins we want to unload before spring, and hey I think its making 
 both seller and buyer happy so I say live and let live, but buy from Riv 
 if 
 you can. 


 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

>  seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote:
>>
>> It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale.
>>
>> Claytonious Q
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Zefal HPX frame pump question...

[Tim Gavin]

Also, check that the switch is set to HP to pump, and set to X to mount it
in the frame.
In X it locks out the pump and is easier to compress into the frame.  It's
ok to put the pump on the peg in HP, but it'll be harder to compress.  :)


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> OK. Thanks. Its a keeper then.
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Coconutbill]

No regret.

the Albas are the ticket for me with the right stem (8cm dirt drop). I may 
measure the angle I've got them out. I angle them a healthy amount.

-evan

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[RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Coconutbill]

Things are looking good for late February. 
Definitely will be doing some type of overnighting Shenanigans. 

-Evan

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Re: [RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

When it's happens it'll be the right time.

-Hugh
On Feb 7, 2014 7:22 PM, "Curtis McKenzie"  wrote:

> Hugh,
>
> Enjoyed your ride report. Hope to tag along some time.
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Glad your better.
>>
>> Don't know when I'll do the Mt Pacifico ride I had thought of doing it
>> at the end of February as a solo just from Mill Creek Summit out and back
>> if the Ojai ride falls through. Instead I may doing something out my back
>> door. I need to get another map of the area you described as it's off my
>> current map. Please go ahead and figure out what you'd like to do for say
>> March keeping in mind the RSR in the middle of the month obviously and
>> we'll see what sticks.. I'm game for the Ojai S240 but I won't do it if
>> it's just Evan and I that would be better for a small group.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Schiller > > wrote:
>>
>>> I've ridden to the summit of Mt Pacifico,  it's mostly dirt but well
>>> graded. From there you can cross over to Angeles Crest at  Three Points,
>>> have a late lunch at Newcombs and camp  at Chilao.  Next day ride down
>>> Angeles Crest to Upper Big T and down to Lower Big T and out.  There is
>>> also a cool ride from Redbox down into Shortcut Canyon and out at Cogswell
>>> reservoir.   There are many different routes we can explore.
>>>
>>> BTW... I'm totaly over that nasty virus and ready to go.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 10:05:17 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
 Mike,

 Thanks.

 It was similar to the previous parts of SCDR nice dirt and pavement
 sections unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of the road but Evan 
 didhere
  it
 had decent grades not as steep as Gleason and nice downhill sections. It
 has only whetted my appetite to explore. This is the time of year IMO as
 the temps are low and bugs nonexistent. Soon I'm thinking of Pacifico
 Mountain. You have any experience with that area?

 ~Hugh

 "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving." -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike Schiller 
 wrote:

>  nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic
> Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca.
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:57:09 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
>> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
>> never. Read about it here .
>>
>> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Bill Gibson]

Tisn't either/or! Do you prefer beer, wine, coffee, tea? That said, the
frame and your ride style determine what you want: Do you want to ride
upright? Do you want to lean into your work? Noodle Bars, Albatross Bars,
Cinelli or generic Maes Bend Bars all offer many hand positions. On the
other hand, many Mountain Bike bars, even with bar ends, seem to offer
fewer and less comfortable positions for long rides, but for muscling
through short rides...


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>
> > For distances I think a drop bar has proven to be pretty good.
>
> I''ve done multi-day tours on Albas and absolutely love it.
>
> Look through Crazyguyonabike and you will see quite a few touring with
> flat and swept back bars over drops.
>
> Point being swept backs can be pretty good for distance as well.
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Matthew J]

> For distances I think a drop bar has proven to be pretty good. 
 
I''ve done multi-day tours on Albas and absolutely love it.

Look through Crazyguyonabike and you will see quite a few touring with flat 
and swept back bars over drops.

Point being swept backs can be pretty good for distance as well.  

>
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Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis

[Tony DeFilippo]

Convince away! :)  It is a fantastic bike and the 64cm frame should fit him
perfectly.

Tony



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> Hey Tony. I am trying to convince a tall friend that this is the bike for
> him. He is about a 93-94 PBH so it would be a good one.
>
> I'll let you know either way what he thinks.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
> >
> > I'd love to get an offer from someone on the list, but I'll be headed to
> eBay f/f/hs only on Monday... Gotta make room for that purple Saluki! :)
> >
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Re: [RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hugh,

Enjoyed your ride report. Hope to tag along some time.

On Friday, February 7, 2014, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Glad your better.
>
> Don't know when I'll do the Mt Pacifico ride I had thought of doing it at
> the end of February as a solo just from Mill Creek Summit out and back if
> the Ojai ride falls through. Instead I may doing something out my back
> door. I need to get another map of the area you described as it's off my
> current map. Please go ahead and figure out what you'd like to do for say
> March keeping in mind the RSR in the middle of the month obviously and
> we'll see what sticks.. I'm game for the Ojai S240 but I won't do it if
> it's just Evan and I that would be better for a small group.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Schiller 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I've ridden to the summit of Mt Pacifico,  it's mostly dirt but well
>> graded. From there you can cross over to Angeles Crest at  Three Points,
>> have a late lunch at Newcombs and camp  at Chilao.  Next day ride down
>> Angeles Crest to Upper Big T and down to Lower Big T and out.  There is
>> also a cool ride from Redbox down into Shortcut Canyon and out at Cogswell
>> reservoir.   There are many different routes we can explore.
>>
>> BTW... I'm totaly over that nasty virus and ready to go.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 10:05:17 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> It was similar to the previous parts of SCDR nice dirt and pavement
>>> sections unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of the road but Evan 
>>> didhere
>>>  it
>>> had decent grades not as steep as Gleason and nice downhill sections. It
>>> has only whetted my appetite to explore. This is the time of year IMO as
>>> the temps are low and bugs nonexistent. Soon I'm thinking of Pacifico
>>> Mountain. You have any experience with that area?
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike Schiller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic
 Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.


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>
> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
> never. Read about it here .
>
> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>
> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis

[Dan McNamara]

Hey Tony. I am trying to convince a tall friend that this is the bike for him. 
He is about a 93-94 PBH so it would be a good one. 

I'll let you know either way what he thinks. 

Dan


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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[blakcloud]

I am not a noodle fan, as I don't like dropped bars. My limited albatross 
bar use has me unimpressed. Eflayer makes a good point and suggests giving 
the pairs a fair run which I will do but I come from the school of thought 
that I should love them right away. I use FSA Metropolis bars on two of my 
commuters and put a third set on my son's bike. I loved those bars from the 
moment I put them on. I think if the albas don't work out I will try 
something similar to the FSA, something like the Jitensha bar or the 
MAP/Ahearne bar. The FSA is a 31.8 bar so not good with the Riv. 

If you like what you have and I think you should stick with what you like. 
Changing bars is a pain. 


On Friday, February 7, 2014 10:37:45 AM UTC-5, Tonester wrote:
>
> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
>

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[RBW] Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Peter Pesce]

I think it has everything to do with your use of the bike. 
For distances I think a drop bar has proven to be pretty good. For a town bike 
ridden for fun or in traffic I like the upright posture of bars like albas. In 
an ideal world you'd have a bike or two with each. 
 I had noodles on my Sam for a while. It took me a couples of iterations to 
realize it, but eventually I leaned that I just didn't use the bike that way, 
so it has albas now and my QB commuter has similar bars. But I ride those bikes 
a few miles at a time, sometimes in a suit. 
I  currently have drops on my un-fendered Soma Double Cross that is my 
"exercise" bike. 

Experiment and find what works for you. 

Pete in CT

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Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis

[Tony DeFilippo]

I'd love to get an offer from someone on the list, but I'll be headed to eBay 
f/f/hs only on Monday... Gotta make room for that purple Saluki! :)

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Bill Lindsay]

My exclusive MONOCHROME harlequin wrapped Albas

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> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Takashi]

My Hunqapillar with albatross:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8160613734/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8740525489/in/photostream/
Albatross bars being inconspicuous amid colorfulness and relentlessness of 
Mother Nature.

Takashi


2014年2月7日金曜日 8時42分55秒 UTC+9 Conway Bennett:
>
> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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Re: [RBW] FS; miscellaneous items

[Michael Williams]

Hey Fred,   no prob.   that would be greatjust send paypal to
mkernanwilli...@gmail.com.   I might be able to get them out tomorrow,  if
not then Monday for sure.thank you!   -Mike


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:10 PM, yavo  wrote:

> Hi there and sorry for the delay. I can still pay the 112.00 for the white
> Hetres. Let me know. Fred
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Williams <
> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> panaracers are spoken for
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Michael Williams <
>> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey group,  just a few items for sale so I can fund a newly purchased
>>> Cheviot from RBW.   prices do not include shipping  All parts are sligthly
>>> used.  Open to offers!
>>>
>>> Nitto Moustache bars- old style 26.0 clamp   $30
>>> Nitto Bosco bars 55cm with 12cm (25.4clamp) Tech Deluxe stem  $90
>>> Nitto Pearl stem   12cm   $20
>>> Fatty Rumpkin Force field tires, basically new   maybe ridden ~50 miles
>>>   $80/pair
>>> Grand Bois hetres 650Bx42  creme/ white   NEW in plastic bags   $100/pair
>>> Panaracer Pasela TG   700x37 $15/pair
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Mike,

Glad your better.

Don't know when I'll do the Mt Pacifico ride I had thought of doing it at
the end of February as a solo just from Mill Creek Summit out and back if
the Ojai ride falls through. Instead I may doing something out my back
door. I need to get another map of the area you described as it's off my
current map. Please go ahead and figure out what you'd like to do for say
March keeping in mind the RSR in the middle of the month obviously and
we'll see what sticks.. I'm game for the Ojai S240 but I won't do it if
it's just Evan and I that would be better for a small group.

~Hugh

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving." -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

> I've ridden to the summit of Mt Pacifico,  it's mostly dirt but well
> graded. From there you can cross over to Angeles Crest at  Three Points,
> have a late lunch at Newcombs and camp  at Chilao.  Next day ride down
> Angeles Crest to Upper Big T and down to Lower Big T and out.  There is
> also a cool ride from Redbox down into Shortcut Canyon and out at Cogswell
> reservoir.   There are many different routes we can explore.
>
> BTW... I'm totaly over that nasty virus and ready to go.
>
> ~mike
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 10:05:17 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> It was similar to the previous parts of SCDR nice dirt and pavement
>> sections unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of the road but Evan 
>> didhere
>>  it
>> had decent grades not as steep as Gleason and nice downhill sections. It
>> has only whetted my appetite to explore. This is the time of year IMO as
>> the temps are low and bugs nonexistent. Soon I'm thinking of Pacifico
>> Mountain. You have any experience with that area?
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>>> nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic
>>> Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>> Carlsbad Ca.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:57:09 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
 quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
 never. Read about it here .

 The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.

 ~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Kellie Stapleton]

Just changed from moustache……...

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> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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Re: [RBW] FS; miscellaneous items

[yavo]

my address:
Fred Yavorsky
817 Fox Chase Road
Jenkintown, PA 19046
215-884-1862  phone


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM, yavo  wrote:

> Hi there and sorry for the delay. I can still pay the 112.00 for the white
> Hetres. Let me know. Fred
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Williams <
> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> panaracers are spoken for
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Michael Williams <
>> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey group,  just a few items for sale so I can fund a newly purchased
>>> Cheviot from RBW.   prices do not include shipping  All parts are sligthly
>>> used.  Open to offers!
>>>
>>> Nitto Moustache bars- old style 26.0 clamp   $30
>>> Nitto Bosco bars 55cm with 12cm (25.4clamp) Tech Deluxe stem  $90
>>> Nitto Pearl stem   12cm   $20
>>> Fatty Rumpkin Force field tires, basically new   maybe ridden ~50 miles
>>>   $80/pair
>>> Grand Bois hetres 650Bx42  creme/ white   NEW in plastic bags   $100/pair
>>> Panaracer Pasela TG   700x37 $15/pair
>>>
>>> email off list pleez.  thanks   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] FS; miscellaneous items

[yavo]

Hi there and sorry for the delay. I can still pay the 112.00 for the white
Hetres. Let me know. Fred


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Williams
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> panaracers are spoken for
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Michael Williams <
> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey group,  just a few items for sale so I can fund a newly purchased
>> Cheviot from RBW.   prices do not include shipping  All parts are sligthly
>> used.  Open to offers!
>>
>> Nitto Moustache bars- old style 26.0 clamp   $30
>> Nitto Bosco bars 55cm with 12cm (25.4clamp) Tech Deluxe stem  $90
>> Nitto Pearl stem   12cm   $20
>> Fatty Rumpkin Force field tires, basically new   maybe ridden ~50 miles
>> $80/pair
>> Grand Bois hetres 650Bx42  creme/ white   NEW in plastic bags   $100/pair
>> Panaracer Pasela TG   700x37 $15/pair
>>
>> email off list pleez.  thanks   -Mike
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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Cecily Walker]

Soma Oxfords, the poor librarian's choice for Albatrosses (on a Soma Sutro 
stem): http://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/9535481106/

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:42:55 PM UTC-8, Conway Bennett wrote:
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> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Not so much regret for me, but I ended up going back to a combo of Mustache 
and Dirt Drop bars. I'll probably do Albas again with the right bike.

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:13:59 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> I found that I had them too high for comfort with a B-17. I was scooting 
> forward to easily on the saddle, I found myself tilting the nose higher and 
> higher but that led to other problems.
>
> I lowered the stem to approx saddle height and it's just about right. 
> Still playing with the angle though. Tilted down, but I'm wondering if I 
> should go flatter.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, eflayer  >wrote:
>
>> Makes me wonder if some people give up on Albas too soon. I almost did 
>> before adjusting and adjusting over many days of short distance test rides.
>>
>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 7:37:45 AM UTC-8, Tonester wrote:
>>
>>> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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[RBW] Re: FS 56 Single top tube Sam Hillborne, FF/hs

[frank_a]

The Sam has been sold.

On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:56:56 AM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> Hi Frank, I'm interested in your Sam Hillborne frameset. Can you call me 
> at 310-968-6910 or email at: bsmi...@jlohr.com  to discuss. 
> I can purchase but wanted to see if you could go a little less on the 
> price? Thanks, Bruce
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:07:45 PM UTC-8, frank_a wrote:
>>
>>  Hello all,
>>  I'm selling my 56cm single top tube Sam Hillborne. It's blue with cream 
>> head tube and lug cut outs. I've probably put less than 100 mies on the 
>> frame. This was one of the frame specials from last year. 
>> The frame is in nearly new condition with only the expected paint loss at 
>> the dropouts, fork ends and kickstand plate~things that would be consistent 
>> with riding the bike for a few weeks. I've got two customs and a Saluki and 
>> there is a lot of overlap. I had plans for this to be my Albatross bike but 
>> one of my customs has very similar geometry with a longer top tube and it's 
>> a better fit. It has taken that space (albatross bike).
>>
>>  $800.00 plus actual shipping. Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket and 
>> new unused seat post. I will ship it in the original box from Rivendell.
>>
>>  Here's a set of photos from my flickr page: 
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/sets/72157636884446603/ 
>>
>>  Please contact me off list.
>>  Thanks,
>>  - Frank
>>
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Re: [RBW] Best Rainy footwear/boots

[Joe Broach]

Hi Michael,

I'm on my second pair of Oboz Firebrand shoe-ish boots here in Portland. I
wear them under a poncho. They're also my year round hiking boots. For me,
they strike the right balance. While skinny for boots, they're still too
wide for toeclips in my size, so I switch to platform pedals in the rainy
season. The proprietary membrane strikes a nice balance for me and has
never left my feet we on my 5-6 mile commute. A less aggressive sole would
be nice on the bike, but then they wouldn't work as well for hiking.

I've snagged both pair at REI for around $80, where they seem to go on sale
regularly.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or


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wrote:

> Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area.
>   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but
> Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover,
>   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for
> riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike
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[RBW] Re: Zefal HPX frame pump question...

[Deacon Patrick]

Huh. I always thought that noise was the boybbles shifting about in my 
head. One less symptom! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:45:33 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Hi Michael, yes, there is a "top out" spring inside of the pump - it 
> absorbs the shock at the long end of the back stroke.  Zefal pumps have 
> been making that sound for 60 years.  
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:41:20 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>> Question: When I hold the pump and turn it upside down, then right side 
>> up, I hear a metal thing sliding inside along the tube. Is this supposed to 
>> be that way, or is it broken? Sounds like a loose spring sliding and then 
>> "duh-duh-duh-duh-duh" to a stop.  Seems to pump fine and work great.
>> Thanks for your experienced answer.
>>
>> Arrived today, and it goes on the valve and off the valve and easier to 
>> pump than any pump I've pumped. Comes off the valve with 0 loss of air. Not 
>> a sound. Very cool.
>> Just barely fits my 52 Sam frame - but fits (at full retraction makes it 
>> by about 1mm to clear the pump peg and then snap into place).
>> I think it took about 110 pumps to get to 50psi on my Marathon 44-584 
>> tires, which is nice.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Zefal HPX frame pump question...

[Michael]

> OK. Thanks. Its a keeper then.
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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

[Deacon Patrick]

Here's a picture of mine (good down to about 35˚F when wet):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9295761124/in/set-72157634656798828

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:19:49 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
>   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
> Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
>   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
> riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike
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[RBW] Best Rainy footwear/boots

[Michael Williams]

Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
  I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
  but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Christopher Chen]

I found that I had them too high for comfort with a B-17. I was scooting
forward to easily on the saddle, I found myself tilting the nose higher and
higher but that led to other problems.

I lowered the stem to approx saddle height and it's just about right. Still
playing with the angle though. Tilted down, but I'm wondering if I should
go flatter.


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, eflayer  wrote:

> Makes me wonder if some people give up on Albas too soon. I almost did
> before adjusting and adjusting over many days of short distance test rides.
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 7:37:45 AM UTC-8, Tonester wrote:
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>> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[eflayer]

Makes me wonder if some people give up on Albas too soon. I almost did 
before adjusting and adjusting over many days of short distance test rides.
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> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[eflayer]

I own 4 bikes. Nearly all of my riding is fast and smooth with my local 
club. All 4 had drops, but the grocery getting old Cannondale mt. bike was 
not getting ridden very much. So it was time for an experiment and that was 
with the Alba. It took quite a bit of fiddling with all of the cockpit 
variables to finally get the fit to work for me. It was really challenging 
to get the hand positions for the grips and the front curves to work right. 
But I am pretty sure the dial is correct now.
 
One of the surprising variable (for me) was the impossible design of cork 
grips. They never fit my hands correctly and the bump on the very end felt 
like a bump. I have used normal cork bar tape at the grips and at the front 
curves and now I gots me the cruiser I was hoping for.
On Friday, February 7, 2014 7:37:45 AM UTC-8, Tonester wrote:

> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Thanks. Not sure what happened there.

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:53:58 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I will try to post Jim Thill's photo here again:
>
> Here we go.
>
>
>
> 
>
> I hope it worked for y'all
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:52:44 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> Go to Jim Thill's *second* post, which looks like it has no text, and 
>> click "show quoted text".  That's how I found the photo.  
>>
>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:31:18 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see any pictures either

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Bill Lindsay]

I will try to post Jim Thill's photo here again:

Here we go.




I hope it worked for y'all


On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:52:44 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Edwin
>
> Go to Jim Thill's *second* post, which looks like it has no text, and 
> click "show quoted text".  That's how I found the photo.  
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:31:18 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> I don't see any pictures either
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Edwin

Go to Jim Thill's *second* post, which looks like it has no text, and click 
"show quoted text".  That's how I found the photo.  

On Friday, February 7, 2014 1:31:18 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
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> I don't see any pictures either
>>
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Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[chrisd]

I have an early 90s Burley Rumba and the price was right (under $2000), 
made in the US. and my wife and I ridden it regularly since then on tours, 
centuries, and club rides. Lots of upgrades (Noodles on the front, Dreams 
on the back), change to Campy Ergo since the original Shimano STI were 
terrible. I use a Brooks seat on the  front and the drag brake is heavy but 
indestructable. Been running Ruffy Tuffys with no problems. So all in all, 
we've gotten our money's worth. 

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:43:24 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I have a 1993 Burley tandem with cantilevers.  I am running 700x32 and 
> upgraded the bike to a freehub setup and 9 speed.  Also got longer 
> seatposts, a threaded stem extension and 48cm noodles.
>
> We enjoy this bike but I wouldn't recommend it if you have other options.  
> It's very heavy, probably 50lbs dry, and it handles like an old truck.  
> I've had some white knuckle moments with it for sure.  Easily the worst 
> handling bike I have ever ridden.  But it's the tandem we have, so we ride 
> it.
> On Jan 30, 2014 12:39 PM, "Michael" > 
> wrote:
>
>> And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife?
>>
>> I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord 
>> willing.
>>
>> They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in.
>>
>> I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me 
>> and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can 
>> do that on a tandem.
>>
>> Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are 
>> lighter materials in order for a frame of that size?
>>
>> Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Edwin W]

>
> I don't see any pictures either
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Re: [RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Mike Schiller]

I've ridden to the summit of Mt Pacifico,  it's mostly dirt but well 
graded. From there you can cross over to Angeles Crest at  Three Points, 
have a late lunch at Newcombs and camp  at Chilao.  Next day ride down 
Angeles Crest to Upper Big T and down to Lower Big T and out.  There is 
also a cool ride from Redbox down into Shortcut Canyon and out at Cogswell 
reservoir.   There are many different routes we can explore.

BTW... I'm totaly over that nasty virus and ready to go.

~mike

On Friday, February 7, 2014 10:05:17 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Mike, 
>
> Thanks.
>
> It was similar to the previous parts of SCDR nice dirt and pavement 
> sections unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of the road but Evan 
> didhere
>  it 
> had decent grades not as steep as Gleason and nice downhill sections. It 
> has only whetted my appetite to explore. This is the time of year IMO as 
> the temps are low and bugs nonexistent. Soon I'm thinking of Pacifico 
> Mountain. You have any experience with that area?
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike Schiller 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic 
>> Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.
>>
>> ~mike
>> Carlsbad Ca.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:57:09 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the 
>>> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than 
>>> never. Read about it here .
>>>
>>> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues. 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Will a Hilsen fit the Rock N Road Tires?

[Dennis Hogan]

They fit my Oct 2013 AHH fine without fenders but with the SKSLong&lows did not 
have enough clearance for the knobs. I found the SKS Velo Cross 55 fenders 
would work though they certainly don't look as nice

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Re: [RBW] another new Nitto rear rack?

[Bill Lindsay]

My order is going in right now.  (Hmmm, what am I going to spend the $15 
necessary to top up to free shipping levels on?)


I splurged on a pair of sackville hubshiners on my last order.  If that 
doesn't get you there, then hot pink Newbaums!

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[RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?

[richdpow...@gmail.com]

Tim,

I'm a bit late to the party- but I'll add my 2 cents anyway!  

The old phil hubs you plan on using are bomb proof. I love how they are 
field serviceable with two allen keys.  I'm not sure you would ever need to 
do so- it is neat that you can.  As good or better than any other cassette 
in my experience- and I'm 6' over 200 lbs.  In a 36 hole version- you are 
looking at great wheels regardless of the spoke diameter you select. 

I believe there are a few critical factors to consider.

Rim construction- eyelets?  Sounds like you have a great rim in mind. Lub 
the threads and nipple seats. 650b is going to be a bit stronger than a 
700- and maybe a bit less than a 26" model.

# of spokes- 36 is a great count.

Tires size- the larger the tire size the more protected the rim/wheel will 
be. I suspect if you are going 650b- you are looking at a chubby tire- and 
that is good news for you wheels. 

Spoke nipples- brass all the way.  Alloy are nice-but generally have limits.

Build quality is #1.  If you tension if even on each side- not even between 
the sides you will have years of long life with or with out an off-set rim. 
 Setting spoke heats- aligning the spoke line- stressing the spokes as you 
build- so there is not wind-up along the way.

I do like the off-set rims and have had great luck with them on my builds- 
for custom frame customers and repairs.  Over the years i'v built a lot of 
touring wheels- mostly 700c and have had very few issues. 

Spoke length I have a Kowa spoke cutter/threader- so I tend to cut my all 
close to exact as possible using blanks.  I'd error on a bit short than a 
bit long by .5 mm or so.  The strength is compromised if your too short- at 
the extreme end. 

Bottom line- quality build-36 spokes db spokes with brass nipples- fatter 
tires- you can't go wrong.  I can cut your spokes down as well if you only 
want to buy one size. 

A basic tension meter is a valuable tool for the beginner or advanced 
mechanic in my opinion. That ups the quality of the build.

I'm in Iowa- happy to help in any way.(more than 2 cents of an opinion!)

Good luck! 

Rich
The other great Cedar-Cedar Falls



On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, 
> using its original Phil hubs.  I'm soliciting advice for which spoke 
> gauge/butting to use.
>
> Use:
> Road riding/light trail rambling
> Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load)
>
> Parts:
> Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear)
> Velocity Synergy 650B rims
> 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge???
>
> Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation?  I want light weight but 
> with enough strength for the heavy load.  What gauge/butting would be too 
> light?  Is straight gauge overkill?  Will using 36h allow me to use a 
> slightly lighter gauge?
>
> Rim:  Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one 
> with asymmetrical drilling?  The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm 
> left of center, better than most cassette hubs.  I already have two 
> symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I 
> can.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
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RE: [RBW] another new Nitto rear rack?

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I just spoke to Jared, who told me that the tombstone-less Top Rack (the R-14) 
pictured on the Cheviot in the Blug is the way they’re coming now, and they 
have a whole shipment of them waiting to be sent out into the world for those 
who have been eyeing the new version since Bill’s original spotting.

My order is going in right now.  (Hmmm, what am I going to spend the $15 
necessary to top up to free shipping levels on?)

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Subject: [RBW] another new Nitto rear rack?

Three Cheviut shots on the BLUG.  First is a Medium (55).  Second is a Large 
(60).  Both the Medium and Large have a rear rack that looks a lot like an 
R-14, but there is no tombstone.  It's just a flat platform.  That might be 
better for some saddlebag support configurations.  It might be worse if you 
want to run a trunksack.  Interesting.
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Michael Hechmer]

- he was much more into downhill speed than I ever was.  
>
> His wife later thanked me for training him how to be a good captain. :-)
>

Yea, it took me awhile to catch on that Pat's screaming on the downhills 
wasn't about the big O

Michael 

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Re: [RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug,

Thanks and they will keep coming. On the matter of the Atlantis and the
next S240 sadly no. I'm shooting for March! I thought about the RSR I think
the Hilsen is more appropriate for that ride.

Really looking forward to our next ride keep me posted.

~Hugh

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:51 AM, dougP  wrote:

> Hugh:
>
> Thanks for the report.  That is truly an inspiration to do this ride.
> Keep those ride reports coming!
>
> Will your Atlantis be ready for the next one?
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:57:09 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
>> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
>> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
>> never. Read about it here .
>>
>> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>>
>> ~Hugh
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RE: [RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Albas on m Atlantis (love them).  One shot in the wild, a couple of cockpit 
close-ups:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5465850587/in/set-72157624427413755

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5696260033/in/set-72157624427413755

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815788778/in/set-72157624427413755




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Subject: [RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a sporadic 
poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm the new owner 
of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out cross check.  So, 
can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr hot links for 
inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Chris Lampe 2]

I don't like drops but I went from traditional MTB handlebars with 10 
degrees of backsweep to Albatross bars and absolutely hated them.  I've 
tried them on numerous bikes with different lengths of top-tubes and stems 
but nothing matteredI still hated them.   Having the grips parallel to 
the top-tube is just the most unnatural thing I can imagine on a bike and I 
also don't like the pullback.  The only place that was comfortable was on 
the forward bends which is approximately where they would be on MTB bars.  
 
I spent two years reading Grant's praise for the Albatross bar and those 
sentiments seem to be echoed by better than 95% of the people who try them 
so I guess I'm just an outlier.   The only Riv bar I think I would like is 
the Bullmoose and I think I would probably love those.  Alas, my bike has 1 
1/8" threadless fork (which I actually prefer to quills) and threadless 
bullmoose bars are few and far between, not to mention very expensive.  
 

On Friday, February 7, 2014 9:37:45 AM UTC-6, Tonester wrote:

> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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[RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[dougP]

Hugh:

Thanks for the report.  That is truly an inspiration to do this ride.  Keep 
those ride reports coming!  

Will your Atlantis be ready for the next one?  

dougP

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> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the 
> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than 
> never. Read about it here .
>
> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues. 
>
> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[MG]

Beautiful setup! Like the water bottle on the stoker stem...

Mary Gersema
Washington, DC


On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:02:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
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>
> Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has 
> been known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back.
> http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0099009/photos/twowheelflight/4707219723/

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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Lynne Fitz]

back when my then-riding buddy and I were out riding all the time, friends of 
ours upgraded to a Santana and put their big red Cannondale up for sale.  We 
looked at each other, thought about it, and he bought it.  The first test ride 
around the Fairmount loop was equal parts of fun and scary - he was much more 
into downhill speed than I ever was.  Took us a couple of outings to get used 
to it, and each other on the tandem (ride around Hagg Lake).  Figuring out how 
to stand was fun.  Not as easy as you'd think.

Then we took it on a century.  Many centuries.  Two-day event rides.  Seattle 
to Portland in a day.  We were both strong singles riders, which probably 
helped.  Much ongoing negotiation on how fast we were going to descend.  Much 
crabbiness on my part when he didn't call all the bumps on the Burke-Gilman 
trail.  It was more fun than not fun, but it did take some work.

One fun memory - me calling out the turns through Vancouver BC at the finish of 
RSVP, with a whole swarm of pilot fish!

His wife later thanked me for training him how to be a good captain. :-)

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm similar to Dave at RivBike, in that all my bikes eventually end up with 
Noodles.  My recently set up town bike, though, has albatross bars, and 
it's great thus far.  I'm tempted to try it out on my 35 mile hilly commute 
to the office, just to see how that works for me.  If I had to bet, I think 
the longer I am on the bike, the more I'll miss drop bars.  So, if it were 
me, and if it were my Atlantis, I'd probably gravitate stick with Noodles 
more if it is used as a Road/Touring/Brevet bike, and I'd probably like 
Albas if it is used more as a townie/wandering/s24o/trail bike.  



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> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Bruce Herbitter]

Here's one solution I found...

http://www.instructables.com/id/brilliantly-simple-tandem-bike/?ALLSTEPS



On 2/7/2014 11:16 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:

Hey Jim,  where is your quad bike or better yet your quint family bike?  :)

--Those are some serious tires!

-T


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:

Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been 
known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back.
http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0099009/photos/twowheelflight/4707219723/

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Stephen S]

I went from Noodles to Bosco's on my LHT - Xtracycle  and hated them. I 
went back to Noodles and haven't looked back. I know they aren't albatross 
bars but are similar. 

People like what they like. If you are curious definitely give them a try 
but maybe keep the packaging from Riv so that if you hate them you could 
sell them to someone who likes them better. 

Stephen

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Re: [RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Mike,

Thanks.

It was similar to the previous parts of SCDR nice dirt and pavement
sections unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of the road but Evan
didhere
it
had decent grades not as steep as Gleason and nice downhill sections. It
has only whetted my appetite to explore. This is the time of year IMO as
the temps are low and bugs nonexistent. Soon I'm thinking of Pacifico
Mountain. You have any experience with that area?

~Hugh

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving." -- Albert Einstein

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike Schiller wrote:

> nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic
> Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca.
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:57:09 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
>> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
>> never. Read about it here .
>>
>> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>>
>> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Steven Frederick]

Fat front tandem-that's awesome!


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> Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Jim]

Found them. Sorry. Beautiful bike.Jim D   Massachusetts

On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:45:40 PM UTC-5, Jim wrote:
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> Jim, I cannot see any pictures? Jim DMassachusetts
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:38:38 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>> For sale: SimpleOne bike, complete, 60cm. Includes everything shown in 
>> the picture. Wheels are cosmetically matching Mavic rims (719 in front and 
>> 319 in back). Rear hub is All-City flip-flop, front hub is a mystery unit. 
>> Alfine crank 39t, White Industries 2-speed 17/19t freewheel plus extra 
>> Shimano freewheel, Berthoud fenders, Nitto rack, 46 cm Noodle bar, 
>> Technomic deluxe stem (9 cm or so), Nitto Dynamic 626 seatpost, Schwalbe 
>> Marathon Racer tires, WTB Speed V saddle, Tektro v-brakes and levers (front 
>> brake is sticky and will be replaced with new). 
>>
>> The frame has a few minor scratches, but nothing serious. The parts are 
>> all in good condition, but used, of course.
>>
>> Asking $1550 including professional packing and insured UPS shipping to a 
>> CONUS address.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm SimpleOne complete bike

[Jim]

Jim, I cannot see any pictures? Jim DMassachusetts

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:38:38 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> For sale: SimpleOne bike, complete, 60cm. Includes everything shown in the 
> picture. Wheels are cosmetically matching Mavic rims (719 in front and 319 
> in back). Rear hub is All-City flip-flop, front hub is a mystery unit. 
> Alfine crank 39t, White Industries 2-speed 17/19t freewheel plus extra 
> Shimano freewheel, Berthoud fenders, Nitto rack, 46 cm Noodle bar, 
> Technomic deluxe stem (9 cm or so), Nitto Dynamic 626 seatpost, Schwalbe 
> Marathon Racer tires, WTB Speed V saddle, Tektro v-brakes and levers (front 
> brake is sticky and will be replaced with new). 
>
> The frame has a few minor scratches, but nothing serious. The parts are 
> all in good condition, but used, of course.
>
> Asking $1550 including professional packing and insured UPS shipping to a 
> CONUS address.
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[RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Mike Schiller]

nice report Hugh. How was the climb north from  Indian Cyn to Magic 
Mountain?  That's the only section I have not been on... yet.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.

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> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the 
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> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues. 
>
> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hey Jim,  where is your quad bike or better yet your quint family bike?  :)

--Those are some serious tires!

-T


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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[LeahFoy]

Here's my kid-haulin', dog-totin' Betty Foy!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/9572048622/

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been 
known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back.
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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Tom Virgil]

This time with a picture
.

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:42:55 PM UTC-8, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Tom Virgil]

Weighing in from San Diego.

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> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Kieran J]

Mine on my now-sold LHT.
Still got the bars tho!
 
KJ
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70712473@N05/7207284362/
 

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> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Minh]

> my quickbeam http://flic.kr/p/aE7mz6
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Deacon Patrick]

Let that albatross swoon down and scoop up that curiosity cat!

I switched, but with over 20 years in-between, so I doubt I count. But I 
love my Albas.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
>

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[RBW] Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Tonester]

I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Anton Tutter]

Wife's Soma Buena Vista, tricked out to be the ultimate "errand running in 
heels" build:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/6905908251/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/6910646389/

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[blakcloud]

My wife's Betty Foy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/10513199974/in/set-72157637005296046/

My Sam Hillborne. On a side note when I see the A. Homer Hilsens' with 
Albatross I wish I had bought that bike instead!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/10512879816/in/set-72157637005220654/

My converted Masi. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/9741862367/in/set-72157635513335723

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Shoji Takahashi]

And my Riv'd out crosscheck: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157634606289599/

(Mostly Albas, a few Moustache)

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> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[john muhl]

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:42:55 PM UTC-6, Conway Bennett wrote:

> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?


Trek 311 with Albatro’

https://plus.google.com/photos/114339590269760877010/albums/5977663454062826657?authkey=CKeWt_-d8PjLXQ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?

[Deacon Patrick]

Update:
What's better than a fatbike? A fatpulk. 18" wide smooth tread with runners 
with LCG only. My fatpulk arrives Monday and gets put to use immediately 
for a three nighter on Pikes Peak. We had a good -16˚F night and morning 
here that I used to test out my gear and while I found a few holes, they 
are all filled in now, though I fully expect to find additional holes when 
I'm out for real.

So, not a Rivendell, but I'm hoping LCG only gearing counts for something. 
I'll be some combination of walking, running, and snowshoeing, so a 
triathlete? The plan is to test in in the flat park with kid inside and if 
that passes the vertigo test then repeat on the climb to the falls a few 
miles from my house. If that passes, then I'm good to test it in the wilds. 
If it doesn't, I'm at a total and complete loss as to how to escape and 
camp in winter's deep.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic! That fixer-upper sure has a great spot. Maybe that's where I 
should move! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the 
> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than 
> never. Read about it here .
>
> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues. 
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[Deacon Patrick]

Pikes Peak, Colorado.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/12104963883/

With abandon,
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[RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

[Pondero]

Another Hilsen, from the Texas Chris...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/12021993526/

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Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(

[Steven Frederick]

"
If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats?"

One flat in 2k+ miles, a very clean puncture from a bit of heavy
wire/staple or something along those lines.  But I'm not terribly flat
prone.  (touch wood!)

Steve


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of
> flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires).
> Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark.
> Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the
> flat inside the house.
>
> This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess
> isn't *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine's blog post:
>
> The Grand Bois "Hetre" 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for
> most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them.
> It's probably a combination of the width - less pressure means that the
> tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber - and perhaps
> the tread profile.
>
> If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats?
>
> --Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: Cotton and Wool Winter Army Gear

[Bob E]

I wash my wool clothing by hand, using Eucalan. It contains lanolin, and 
they recommend not rinsing after a wash, so that the lanolin and eucalyptus 
oils are retained (in addition to conditioning the fibers, those oils also 
act as moth and flea repellants).

http://www.eucalan.com/

http://www.eucalan.com/how-to+wash+woolens


Bob

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[WETH]

Here is a link to photos of three of my bikes with albatross bars: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157640630965834/


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> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
> hot links for inspiration?

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Re: [RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

[Eric Daume]

Not Albas, but I have the Soma Oxfords in these pictures of my
not-a-Riv-but-a-CC:

http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/darree-fields-and-some-notes-on-soma.html

Eric "only something like the real thing" Daume
Dublin, OH


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> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr
> hot links for inspiration?
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[RBW] Re: Zefal HPX frame pump question...

[Ron Mc]

Hi Michael, yes, there is a "top out" spring inside of the pump - it 
absorbs the shock at the long end of the back stroke.  Zefal pumps have 
been making that sound for 60 years.  

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:41:20 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
>
> Question: When I hold the pump and turn it upside down, then right side 
> up, I hear a metal thing sliding inside along the tube. Is this supposed to 
> be that way, or is it broken? Sounds like a loose spring sliding and then 
> "duh-duh-duh-duh-duh" to a stop.  Seems to pump fine and work great.
> Thanks for your experienced answer.
>
> Arrived today, and it goes on the valve and off the valve and easier to 
> pump than any pump I've pumped. Comes off the valve with 0 loss of air. Not 
> a sound. Very cool.
> Just barely fits my 52 Sam frame - but fits (at full retraction makes it 
> by about 1mm to clear the pump peg and then snap into place).
> I think it took about 110 pumps to get to 50psi on my Marathon 44-584 
> tires, which is nice.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Zefal HPX frame pump question...

[Ron Mc]

Hi Michael, yes, there is a "top out" spring inside of the pump - it 
absorbs the shock at the long end of the back stroke.  Zefal pumps have 
been making that sound for 110 years.  

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:41:20 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
>
> Question: When I hold the pump and turn it upside down, then right side 
> up, I hear a metal thing sliding inside along the tube. Is this supposed to 
> be that way, or is it broken? Sounds like a loose spring sliding and then 
> "duh-duh-duh-duh-duh" to a stop.  Seems to pump fine and work great.
> Thanks for your experienced answer.
>
> Arrived today, and it goes on the valve and off the valve and easier to 
> pump than any pump I've pumped. Comes off the valve with 0 loss of air. Not 
> a sound. Very cool.
> Just barely fits my 52 Sam frame - but fits (at full retraction makes it 
> by about 1mm to clear the pump peg and then snap into place).
> I think it took about 110 pumps to get to 50psi on my Marathon 44-584 
> tires, which is nice.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[WETH]

An inspiring s24o trip description and photographs.  I enjoyed reading it.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I have seen a lot of men spend a lot of futile money trying to get their wives 
on a tandem. As others have mentioned, the fit issues are often a real 
compromise (at best). Unless you're willing to pony up $5000-plus for a custom, 
your odds of finding a tandem that is comfortable for both of you is pretty 
slim. You can buy a quality used tandem for a song (from a formerly 
enthusiastic husband), and then spend many years and thousands of dollars 
trying to get it to fit. If you do that, you'll probably have to let go of your 
Rivendell aesthetic sensibilities and open yourself up to some new options for 
handlebars, etc.

Tandems are not something you can dive into casually or cheaply and expect good 
results. Both husband and wife need to be fully on-board with the idea. If the 
stoker/wife is lukewarm on the idea, no amount of enthusiasm from the captain 
will make it work.

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Re: [RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[Christopher Chen]

ROCK IT


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:57 AM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the
> quickest I could get this out, you know what they say better late than
> never. Read about it here .
>
> The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues.
>
> ~Hugh
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[RBW] First SoCal S240 in the new year ride report.

[hsmitham]

Though it's already February I've been fairly busy so this was the quickest 
I could get this out, you know what they say better late than never. Read 
about it here .

The Southern California S240 a month experiment continues. 

~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

[Bruce Herbitter]

My new Winter desktop background :)

On 2/7/2014 2:06 AM, Christopher Chen wrote:

BAM http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/12358401735/




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Re: [RBW] Show me your albatrosses!

[Christopher Chen]

BAM http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/12358401735/


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Conway Bennett <
captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a
> sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm
> the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out
> cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr
> hot links for inspiration?
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