[RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Very nice...and that bag is *huge.* I sold one like it, but I have no memory of who got it. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, April 21, 2014 2:59:48 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
Have you tried it without the spacer? I was running a 13-34 7 speed cassette on a 9 speed Ultegra hub and I seem to remember that it tightened up fine without a spacer. IanA/Canada On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:10:47 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
+1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
Those who said Saddle! win partial points, but ultimately we were all off. Rivet Saddles have a bridge rivet tying the two sides of the saddle together (rather than lacing). Well, the metal rivets on the bottom of that wonderful bridge were clicking into the top of my Nitto S83 seat post with nearly every pedal stroke. I put a piece of rubber between the metal bits and wrapped them with velcro tape and it’s all quiet now. Whew. Tune in next time when we explore the next mysterious noise emerging from your bike! (Cue erie music) Remember! The noise is inside, just looking for a way out. Duh-du duh! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, and I think some reverence is due On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: +1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
AMEN! On Apr 23, 2014 10:44 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, and I think some reverence is due On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: +1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
we all approve - great job On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:36:59 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: Smart lookin' bike. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, WETH erlho...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Michael, That is a great build. I love and use both the slickersack and Saddlesack on a daily basis. I hope you have many wonderful adventures on the bike. Erl On Monday, April 21, 2014 5:59:48 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
glad you found it and that it wasn't something that could leave stranded in the boonies. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:18:44 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Those who said Saddle! win partial points, but ultimately we were all off. Rivet Saddles have a bridge rivet tying the two sides of the saddle together (rather than lacing). Well, the metal rivets on the bottom of that wonderful bridge were clicking into the top of my Nitto S83 seat post with nearly every pedal stroke. I put a piece of rubber between the metal bits and wrapped them with velcro tape and it’s all quiet now. Whew. Tune in next time when we explore the next mysterious noise emerging from your bike! (Cue erie music) Remember! The noise is inside, just looking for a way out. Duh-du duh! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
AMEN On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:44:03 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, and I think some reverence is due On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: +1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
When I get it I'll let you know! It should be shipping out either today or tomorrow. I've got to piece together a few remaining parts, but shouldn't take too long. I'm building it with a Schmidt SonDeluxe, Rear Phil Wood, friction barcons, Noodle bar, should be pretty classy! Ok...back to the original intent of this thread.. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Off this topicI'll be lookin for this Atlantis. As far as I know you'll have the only Atlantis in Winnipeg because I know rivs are scarce in Winnipeg...I've see the Cervelo and the Surly bike On Monday, April 21, 2014 9:19:01 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: I understand, yet don't fully agree with the safety concerns of a carbon fork. If something jams in your wheel, you're likely going down regardless and your fork is likely going to be toast regardless. For the record, I have a Cervelo R3 (full carbon), Giant TCX (Aluminum/Carbon), did have a Bridgestone road frame (steel, more to come on that), Ti SSCX with carbon fork, and a surly steamroller. Oh, and I have just bought a used Atlantis... :) The Cervelo R3 was made with a more upright, 'classics' geo a year or two back when I got it. I've ridden it on a few 100 mile rides, going hard and have been amazingly comfortable the entire time, and that's on 25mm tires! Maybe it's the spaghetti-sized seat stays that soak up the vibrations, but it is truly a dreamy ride quality. I used to have a wonderful Bridgestone steel road frame, with Suntour Cyclone 2 drivetrain and Sugino Mighty Competition. I never found out the model. I actually found the complete bike in a pile of garbage at a construction site. It looked brand new, hah! Then something got caught in my front wheel while riding at maybe 15-20km/h. I immediately flipped over the bars and woke up in the hospital a few hours later. Thank god I had a helmet on (which at that time was not normal for me). The steel fork was totally destroyed. I doubt having a carbon fork would have made things worse or better. I've had a lot of nasty head-on crashes with my CX bikes, both with carbon forks, and no issues. They are a lot stronger than one might think. In the end, I agree - I've felt great on aluminum, carbon, steel, and ti. Rider position, tires, saddle, and wheels make way more of a difference than frame material. On Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:31:22 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: I'm talking ride quality only, not function. Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full. Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc. I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them. Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on... I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded leather saddle in the documentary I saw). Now function is another thing altogether. You want braze-ons and wide tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure. I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm tire-ed race bike. I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle rages. Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their quality bikes, no matter what the material is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/3xxy1FE1c4o/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because
[RBW] Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?
The install on the '03/'04 Atlantis sits quite the opposite of level. No mid fork braze on so the clamps can situate wherever. Anyone have any experience leveling up an upward-sloping Nitto Mini Front? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Silver Shifter Levers
I'm wondering if anyone has some Silver Shifter Levers in their parts bin? I acquired a bike that had bar end shifters, Rivendell pods matched with really old suntour shifters that do not work particularly well at all. gummy and rusted. I'd like to put together a Silver Shifter set-up on a new build I have, but trying to avoid buying brand new parts if possible. Contact me off-list if you have anything. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
The people on this list have forgotten more about bikes than I’ll ever know but I was around the golf business when aerospace engineers and materials scientists started to revolutionize the clubs and the ball. I’m sure that the intent was to help the average player make better contact, get the ball up in the air and hit it a little straighter (and sell everybody a new set of clubs). In the hands of professionals, the new club and ball completely changed the game and forced tournament courses to be redesigned to protect par. However, for the average guy with the average golf swing, the club and ball were never an important limiting factor to better scoring. I recently heard that now that equipment improvements have plateaued, pros are practicing with old persimmon woods and balata balls to get better feedback on contact. Likewise, I read that the Lovely Bicycle blogger was climbing hills in a higher than optimum gear try to do some resistance training. When I was in the Air Force I worked on tactics against surveillance architectures. Then I was recruited into a group developing countermeasures against those tactics. I was aware of groups working on countermeasures against our countermeasures that we called counter-countermeasures. Crazy games. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:54:23 AM UTC-7, JimD wrote: +1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Would any fork manufacturer? I think most would tell you to do a good visual check and if they're really in covering our butt mode take it in for a qualified service personnel to take a look. Old article http://velonews.competitor.com/2002/12/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/technical-qa-with-lennard-zinn-carbon-forks-2_3270 I don't trust carbon. But I chalk that up to not being able to teach an old dog...I bet if I ever test rode one I'd love it. On Monday, April 21, 2014 4:40:27 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: However I am not aware of any manufacture who will guarantee a carbon fork, or recommend riding one after a front end crash. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts
Apropos of steel and wood: http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/ Pretty compelling. - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
looks to me like cassette is riveted together upon first inspection. isn't a fender or rack screw, everything seems good there. i think this one is going to need a visit to the LBS. I'll report back on what it was. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Silver Shifter Levers
Hi Michael. I have a set of the Dia-Compe version of the shifters if you want to go that route. They are the older version that is a little more decorative than the Riv version. I can send you pics if you are interested. Dan On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Michael Ullmer mjull...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has some Silver Shifter Levers in their parts bin? I acquired a bike that had bar end shifters, Rivendell pods matched with really old suntour shifters that do not work particularly well at all. gummy and rusted. I'd like to put together a Silver Shifter set-up on a new build I have, but trying to avoid buying brand new parts if possible. Contact me off-list if you have anything. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Going main stream or is that main street.
Well it looks like Grant and company have done such a good job promoting camping bicycling that someone took notice. http://www.rei.com/h/bikepacking?cm_mmc=email_com_gm-_-bikepacking-_-042314-_-cta_bikepackingRMID=20140423_Bikepacking_SL1RRID=2553353ev11=1ev36=NULL ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:21:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is pictured without pedals. I assume we could spec that Roadeo with the same parts, and we'd probably be 2 to 3 pounds heavier and about $1500-$2000 less expensive? Somewhere in there. This is correct! Riv list a 55cm Roadeo with I believe Sram Force at 18lbs w/o pedals or saddle: Built up with Mark's choice of lightish clubby parts, his 55cm weighs (minus saddle and pedals) 18 pounds. link: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-roadeo.htm Further, Riv doesn't specify parts, but they do say: we're able to price the Roadeo at $4,200 (or so), several hundred to several thousand dollars less than similarly equipped MCRBs. Assuming again that is for a Sram Force group, the Roadeo bike will weigh about 2lbs more but cost $2100 less than a similarly equipped Calfee! However, the new carbon frames coming out of Taiwan are even lighter and in some cases cheaper! One friend recently bought new Taiwanese-made bike with Sram Red and it cost him a little over $5000, the bike weighs 15lbs. I've seen last year's C'dale Evo with Sram Red sell for about $3300! That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck! If both bikes had the same tires, I bet they'd both be awesome. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:12:08 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you never responded. Is this a phantom posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck! It is not that it cannot be done off the shelf, but it seems that if you want a CF frame that takes wider tires you have to go custom. And for whatever reason, custom CF run a lot more than similar custom steel from very respectable builders. This, to me anyway, seems a significant difference between CF and steel as material for bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Smitham wineh...@gmail.com wrote: I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you never responded. Is this a phantom posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
I agree. It just feels wrong. Bruce On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Smitham wineh...@gmail.com wrote: I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you never responded. Is this a phantom posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/h__YRilaEeg/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Going main stream or is that main street.
A friend of mine works at REI in the bike shop and said that the Bikepacking thing was the new directive from the corporate offices. I'd noticed a mountain bike set up for 24-48 hour camping trips just as you enter the door of the Reno REI. Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technologyhttp://www.washoecountyschools.org/aact/ *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”* Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/ Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committeehttp://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Well it looks like Grant and company have done such a good job promoting camping bicycling that someone took notice. http://www.rei.com/h/bikepacking?cm_mmc=email_com_gm-_-bikepacking-_-042314-_-cta_bikepackingRMID=20140423_Bikepacking_SL1RRID=2553353ev11=1ev36=NULL ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Oh crap! I got a couple of replies off list, but I somehow missed these posts. My apologies, I wasn't ignoring you on purpose. Acually I thought I ticked the email updates to me button, as well. Bruce, I have two people interested but if they both fall through I'll get in touch. Sorry again. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
Maybe a rack or fender bolt? Sometimes they stick out to the inside enough to get in the way. You'll need to set-up the bike so you can turn the pedals while you look at the area of the noise. dougP On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:18:36 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: chatter: it sounds like the chain is rubbing against something, but i can't see where it's happening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:53:18 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck! It is not that it cannot be done off the shelf, but it seems that if you want a CF frame that takes wider tires you have to go custom. And for whatever reason, custom CF run a lot more than similar custom steel from very respectable builders. This, to me anyway, seems a significant difference between CF and steel as material for bikes. Yeah, if we are talking custom, e.g., custom geometry, then that really changes things as most CF frames coming out of Taiwan or elsewhere are pretty much stock production sizes. For custom carbon, you're looking at a handful of very expensive builders - Calfee, Parlee and Crumpton top the list. However, their custom frames start at about $3500 (Calfee tetra-custom) and go way up. In contrast, custom steel frames can be expensive depending on the builder. If you're looking top tier like a Richard Sachs or Sasha White/Vanilla, both of whom have like 5+ year wait list, expect to pay $4000+ for a frameset (frame and fork), Bruce Gordon is in that same range and I think Brent Steelman is the highest with a starting price of something like $5500! Even Riv customs are $3500. Of course, there are builders who are cheaper like Roland Della Santa and Steve Rex who I believe *only* charges between $2000-2500. Lots of good stuff out there, it all depends on what you want! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB NITTO - MARK M1 RIVENDELL FRONT/REAR MINI RACK and decaleur
WTB NITTO - MARK M1 RIVENDELL FRONT/REAR MINI RACK and decaleur or another system to attach an Acorn boxy rando bag to my wife's 55cm Cheviot. It would be great to have the front tab to attach a dyno front light like the Luxos B since I am equipping her wheelset with a dyno hub. Any suggestions are welcomed but the Mark's rack and a Velo Orange decaleur seem like the cheapest and best solution so far. Thanks, Bruce in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
More adjustment screw adjusting? I don't know exactly what you mean by chatter, but maybe you need to let the rear derailleur come down a little further? Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:10:47 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
I don't think he means low-trail vs. high-trail chatter, I think he means metal on metal chatter. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: More adjustment screw adjusting? I don't know exactly what you mean by chatter, but maybe you need to let the rear derailleur come down a little further? Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:10:47 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck! Exactly correct! It is impressive to see a 15lb bike when it's on the scale, but some of us actually like to ride. Furthermore some of us like to ride fast. A 15lb bike that forces you into slower, less comfortable tires is not appealing. That's the only reason I was comparing the Adventure Calfee to the Roadeo. When there's bargain carbon frameset that takes 30mm tires or wider, that will be interesting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
+1. I find that if I eyeball my limit screw on the small-cog end, that I need to back off the H limit screw another quarter turn or so to quiet it down in that cog. Set up correctly and quietly the R Der looks like it's going a little bit beyond the small cog. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:01:14 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: More adjustment screw adjusting? I don't know exactly what you mean by chatter, but maybe you need to let the rear derailleur come down a little further? Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:10:47 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Platrack and Jack Brown Blue
have you still got that Platrack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Foundry Cycles, which I believe is another QBP brand, has a couple of (relatively) budget oriented carbon frames that may fit the bill. The Thresher is their road endurance model, sporting disc brakes and clearance for 28c (per Tree Fort Bikes website). The Augur is a cross utility bike that has geometry that's not so different from a road endurance bike (73/73 head and seat tube angles, 42.5cm chainstays) and fairly generous clearances. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:09:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck! Exactly correct! It is impressive to see a 15lb bike when it's on the scale, but some of us actually like to ride. Furthermore some of us like to ride fast. A 15lb bike that forces you into slower, less comfortable tires is not appealing. That's the only reason I was comparing the Adventure Calfee to the Roadeo. When there's bargain carbon frameset that takes 30mm tires or wider, that will be interesting. It is already here and more are coming! They're called cross bikes! The big 3 all have cross bikes with carbon frames, disc brakes, mechanical or electronic shifting and 30mm+ tires! With everything going to 11 speed, the 10 speed versions are all being discounted! My buddy recently bought a slightly used (read: floor model) C'dale cross with Sram Red and mechanical disc brakes! Regular price is like $6000, he paid like $2700! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.
Read it here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Segwaying a bit, a somewhat odd local character (whom I've not seen for a couple of years, btw) had a Parlee road frame converted into a fixed gear with cheap rattrap pedals sans clips 'n' straps and cheap scavenged wheels. But damn if that thing wasn't light! I hefted it and, despite the heavy metal, it felt as if it weighed no more than 12 lb. My fixed gofast weighs just under 18 lb ready to ride (saddle - Flite, pedals-Keo Max, and cage-Iris) and when I had the other very similar Riv built as a 1X10 it weighed just under 20. Sizes are upslopetubed 57 and 58 respectively. No stupid light parts unless you consider (as you well may) ti stem binder bolts and Phil ti bb assemblies with aluminum cups stooopid. Anyway, I tell you (and I'll tell you again and again and again, no doubt) that climbing with the gofast brings additional pleasure to the activity of climbing standing in a highish gear. It does climb *so* easily! I'd love to have a CF gofast with super light everything (as long as it were durable and comfortable. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is pictured without pedals. I assume we could spec that Roadeo with the same parts, and we'd probably be 2 to 3 pounds heavier and about $1500-$2000 less expensive? Somewhere in there. If both bikes had the same tires, I bet they'd both be awesome. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:12:08 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Ach; context is everything. Sorry. (Though you did sound peeved.) On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bruce Smitham wineh...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. It just feels wrong. Bruce On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Smitham wineh...@gmail.comwrote: I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you never responded. Is this a phantom posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/h__YRilaEeg/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Platrack and Jack Brown Blue
Both the rack and tires are sold. Thanks! On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:20:36 PM UTC-4, Lynne Fitz wrote: have you still got that Platrack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)
Still like 'em? I've been using JB's for years and years and never had a problem (they never flat!) but the current set's about worn out and these tires are tempting me... William On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I love them. I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I get more miles on them. About me: I am 6'3 230lb. Looking for a nice big tire. Many miles on Jack Browns; I like 'em. Some miles on 700x40 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme; never liked 'em - too 'dead'. The Barlow Pass measure 37mm on my Velocity Dyad rims. Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157642025409385/ Thanks Ty Graham Seattle 2001 Atlantis 1969 Raleigh Professional Mark I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Hi Tom, No problem at all. I was looking for your private off-line email to send there too but couldn't find. Thanks, Bruce On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Oh crap! I got a couple of replies off list, but I somehow missed these posts. My apologies, I wasn't ignoring you on purpose. Acually I thought I ticked the email updates to me button, as well. Bruce, I have two people interested but if they both fall through I'll get in touch. Sorry again. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/h__YRilaEeg/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Going main stream or is that main street.
Unfortunately, looking over their gear that is linked to this email, they don't have a clue about bikepacking yet. Every bike bag is small and better suited to day trips. They have always carried some panniers but these are ill suited for bikepacking. I've been an REI member since the early 70's and they generally have great stuff in their stores, but they need some help in this area. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
Well Velcro and rubber are a far sight less messy than grease bearings - glad you've solved the mystery Dennis in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Smoking might be good for you
and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT/WTB: My Paul Neo Retro Silver for your Paul Touring Canti Silver
Anyone have a Paul touring canti laying around they'd like to trade for a neo retro? Would also buy it from ya if you don't want to trade. I just need one. (And yes, I did learn why it's called a *Touring* canti when I installed my pannier-capable big front rack) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)
I see both Paul cantis and XTR cantis in the same photo set? On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Ty Graham tygra...@gmail.com wrote: I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I love them. I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I get more miles on them. About me: I am 6'3 230lb. Looking for a nice big tire. Many miles on Jack Browns; I like 'em. Some miles on 700x40 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme; never liked 'em - too 'dead'. The Barlow Pass measure 37mm on my Velocity Dyad rims. Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157642025409385/ Thanks Ty Graham Seattle 2001 Atlantis 1969 Raleigh Professional Mark I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
So the general consensus is, yes you can run panniers with the piccolo attached, you have to have clips large enough to fit the beefy tubing, and you have to watch the spacing so you don't interfere with some of the jogs and other parts of the rack. Can you use panniers on the Moose rack without the piccolo attached? Right where the center pannier clip is, is right where the rack is 'jogged in'. Anybody ever done that successfully? Thanks, TV On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts
Wow that thing is neat! Maybe the video is misleading but if didn't look like he was having to swing that hard even. Not much on looks though... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts
Wow that thing is neat! Maybe the video is misleading but if didn't look like he was having to swing that hard even. Not much on looks though... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.
Hugh, that is a great way to start the day. I would have a hard time not making that ride into the canyon everyday. Beautiful! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Welcome to the scourge of Google Groups. I'm generally familiar with its supreme uselessness now, but it took months. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:41:45 PM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: Firstly, this is now sold. Thanks for the interest. I was intending for people use the 'Reply to author' function, but I've personally found that to be extremely unreliable so I can understand why you wouldn't. Anyway, if I'd seen that you'd been trying to get in touch I would have emailed you, but I didn't notice this thread when it came back to the top of the list (and hence didn't realise anyone had replied). My fault, I'll pay more attention next time! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.
Erl, Thanks. I do love it and when I have more time I'll do a loop up Big T and down Angeles Crest Hwy. I done it in the past but on a speedier bike. Truth be told I do need to mix it up so everyday not quite realistic for me. And Erl, you have some amazing rides out on the other coast just fantastic! ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:23 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: Hugh, that is a great way to start the day. I would have a hard time not making that ride into the canyon everyday. Beautiful! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/SkIcdPq-sUI/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Find your own stick!
Rivendell's new shifter/derailer combo. So cheap they won't even *give *it away! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/clem01.htm Joe shift shift shift Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: small Nigel Smythe bag(s)
im looking for either the Keven's type bag and/or banana bag in tweed mike goldman warwick,r.i. The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar #40;Don#39;t Eat This!#41; http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/53585e3c14aa35e3c202bst04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Find your own stick!
I love their sense of humor. Now back to the hunt for that dang stick. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:39:59 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Rivendell's new shifter/derailer combo. So cheap they won't even *give *it away! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/clem01.htm Joe shift shift shift Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA
Dear Andy, Thanks for the information and suggestions. I really appreciate it. Dear Tony, I look forward to hearing about your trip in May. As Andy wrote, the trail is quite nice and in great shape. Perhaps we can work in a weekend ride before your trip. All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts
Riv content: a $280 dollar axe (including shipping)? ;) Kidding aside, I wonder if the twisting motion when the axe head hits the wood with force would be hard on the wrists. Might only be an issue with those first few powerful strikes if at all. Definitely impressive though. -Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Apropos of steel and wood: http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/ Pretty compelling. - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] clemcessories?
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Re: [RBW] Haxes and Atchetts
That's nice, but consequently, if you ever do have to chop wood, you're more than likely going to suck at it. Yeah, you know, cause practicing at things is so 20th century On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Riv content: a $280 dollar axe (including shipping)? ;) Kidding aside, I wonder if the twisting motion when the axe head hits the wood with force would be hard on the wrists. Might only be an issue with those first few powerful strikes if at all. Definitely impressive though. -Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Apropos of steel and wood: http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/ Pretty compelling. - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Find your own stick!
looks like the one that went through my tire last week On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:46:47 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: I love their sense of humor. Now back to the hunt for that dang stick. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:39:59 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Rivendell's new shifter/derailer combo. So cheap they won't even *give *it away! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/clem01.htm Joe shift shift shift Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.
Hi All, I know Riv suggests just touching paint chips up with any old color...but I definitely lean towards the finding a close color match side of things. With that said, anyone have any success finding a close color match for touching up the greyish blue blueish grey Sam Hillborne color. I poked around a bit and found some info on the orange but nada on the blue grey color. I have a couple of chips that are just kinda buggig' me like a small rock in the bottom of your shoe kinda deal. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Panniers are no problem without the Picolo attached. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, timv1234 timvan...@hotmail.com wrote: So the general consensus is, yes you can run panniers with the piccolo attached, you have to have clips large enough to fit the beefy tubing, and you have to watch the spacing so you don't interfere with some of the jogs and other parts of the rack. Can you use panniers on the Moose rack without the piccolo attached? Right where the center pannier clip is, is right where the rack is 'jogged in'. Anybody ever done that successfully? Thanks, TV On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBase; utm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid= CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.
Cyclofiend came up with this http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/color.html for some of the legacy models. I also have a Sam and prefer having him on the pristine side rather than the Beausage. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:37:11 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote: Hi All, I know Riv suggests just touching paint chips up with any old color...but I definitely lean towards the finding a close color match side of things. With that said, anyone have any success finding a close color match for touching up the greyish blue blueish grey Sam Hillborne color. I poked around a bit and found some info on the orange but nada on the blue grey color. I have a couple of chips that are just kinda buggig' me like a small rock in the bottom of your shoe kinda deal. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)
Ty, Great looking set-up. How do you like the lugged stem? Great beausage on the leather tape - how long have you had it on your bars? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)
700x38 looks just right Not too fat, not too thin. On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I love them. I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I get more miles on them. About me: I am 6'3 230lb. Looking for a nice big tire. Many miles on Jack Browns; I like 'em. Some miles on 700x40 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme; never liked 'em - too 'dead'. The Barlow Pass measure 37mm on my Velocity Dyad rims. Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157642025409385/ Thanks Ty Graham Seattle 2001 Atlantis 1969 Raleigh Professional Mark I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)
Looks a lot like the Soma C lines on my Atlantis. I'm loving the cushy ride. dougP On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:41:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: 700x38 looks just right Not too fat, not too thin. On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I love them. I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I get more miles on them. About me: I am 6'3 230lb. Looking for a nice big tire. Many miles on Jack Browns; I like 'em. Some miles on 700x40 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme; never liked 'em - too 'dead'. The Barlow Pass measure 37mm on my Velocity Dyad rims. Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/13233995@N08/sets/72157642025409385/ Thanks Ty Graham Seattle 2001 Atlantis 1969 Raleigh Professional Mark I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Single Speed Crank and bb
Hey all, I'm on the hunt for a 46-ish tooth single speed crank. I know there are a lot of options out there, but I like this group and trust that anything you might be trying to part ways with will be as good or better than what the internet tells me to buy. Also interested in an old double crank I can switch to single chainring with a chain guard, or crank arms I can do with as I please. Let me know what you have in ye' old parts bin. Can do personal paypal payment. Gracias amigos. - Mike in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.
Richard, Check out Testors model paint at a hobby store. There is a variety of colors to choose. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?
At least a couple folks have done this. Here are some threads discussing it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ce9iMtup-2A https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/S2pled8RvIk http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2006/heywood-rackphotos.html And someone who's done it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benzzoy/11698782766/in/photostream/ Been thinking about doing this myself. Let us know how you end up! William On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote: The install on the '03/'04 Atlantis sits quite the opposite of level. No mid fork braze on so the clamps can situate wherever. Anyone have any experience leveling up an upward-sloping Nitto Mini Front? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?
I donno about that rack. Seems to shear off right at the fork. Seen it twice, and once wasn't on Manny's bike so you know it wasn't his fault. Cause you know. cc I'll be trash talkin' all week On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:54 PM, William! william.c.hender...@gmail.comwrote: At least a couple folks have done this. Here are some threads discussing it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ce9iMtup-2A https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/S2pled8RvIk http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2006/heywood-rackphotos.html And someone who's done it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benzzoy/11698782766/in/photostream/ Been thinking about doing this myself. Let us know how you end up! William On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote: The install on the '03/'04 Atlantis sits quite the opposite of level. No mid fork braze on so the clamps can situate wherever. Anyone have any experience leveling up an upward-sloping Nitto Mini Front? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
thanks to for all the responses. I have some carsick panniers enroute thanks to Ron. Now another question as I look at the bike, will my neo-retros stick out too far? does it matter if the bag touches them? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Panniers are no problem without the Picolo attached. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, timv1234 timvan...@hotmail.com wrote: So the general consensus is, yes you can run panniers with the piccolo attached, you have to have clips large enough to fit the beefy tubing, and you have to watch the spacing so you don't interfere with some of the jogs and other parts of the rack. Can you use panniers on the Moose rack without the piccolo attached? Right where the center pannier clip is, is right where the rack is 'jogged in'. Anybody ever done that successfully? Thanks, TV On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBase; utm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid= CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA
Erl, Enjoyed the post and pictures. I think it's a wonderful notion to do a ride like this with your boys. I love the Strawberry Quick drink, I favor a Strawberry Malt myself. I really look to the future post and pictures of this great family tour. ~Hugh On Monday, April 21, 2014 6:53:30 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote: Riv content: Two Rivendell-inspired riders, two Riv’d out Surly LHTs, a large Saddlesack, a platrack, and a Slickersack. This summer my wife and I are planning to ride the entire Great Allegheny Passage (GAP) trail (150 miles) from Pittsburgh, PA to Cumberland, MD with our 13 and 11 year old sons. Since we have never cycled the GAP, we decided some real world experience would help us prepare the boys for the adventure. We settled on exploring one of the more remote stretches, the 20 miles between Confluence and Rockwood, PA. On Friday afternoon, my wife and I loaded our two bikes on the car and drove the three hours to Confluence, PA. We spent the night at River View Kitchenettes, a great place right along the GAP Trail and overlooking the river. After an early evening walk around the town, the Trailside restaurant provided us a great pizza dinner washed down with a strawberry Nestle Quick. The morning came crisp and clear; it was going to be a beautiful weekend for cycling. After a delicious breakfast at Sister’s Café, we set off by 10am. Leaving Confluence the trail runs consistently uphill to Rockwood, PA. The grade is gently but unrelentingly upward with little opportunity for coasting. However, we were in no hurry and spun along at a comfortable, leisurely pace enjoying the beauty and quiet of the forest we rode through. The trail follows the Casselman River, and as we rode we listened to the water rushing by. The main CSX rail line runs on the other side of the river and goes through both Confluence and Rockwood. Freight trains rolled through at least every hour. I enjoy trains and was not bothered by their presence. In reading online reviews of lodging options along the trail, many reviewers do complain about the train noise, especially at night. At times we felt like the only people for miles around. At the Pinkerton High Bridge, next to the closed Pinkerton Tunnel, about half way between Confluence and Rockwood, we took a break overlooking the river. Oranges and another Strawberry Quick refreshed. Three and half hours after leaving Confluence we arrived in Rockwood. Did I say we took a leisurely pace? We did pass perhaps a dozen people, a mix of bikers and hikers, in the 20 miles. Rockwood was a welcoming place, and we enjoyed more pizza and some ice cream at the Mill Shoppes on Main Street. We then explored some of the more kid friendly lodging options in town for the summer trip, while waiting to check in at the Gingerbread House BB. The BB was wonderful, and we spent the late afternoon relaxing and reading on the porch swing. Sunday morning dawned crisp and clear. After a delicious breakfast at the BB of blueberry French toast, we headed back down the trail to Confluence. The downward grade was a welcome relief from yesterday’s ride and we covered the distance in only two and half hours. Still leisurely. Overall it was a terrific weekend, and we are excited to experience the whole trail as a family this summer. Pictures prove we did something on a trail with bikes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157644195003943/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.
Thanks for the tips. They led me to checking around a bit and found this testors paint color http://www.testors.com/products/136917. Just by eyeballin' it, it looks pretty close to me. What do you think? I'm gonna try and go down to the local hobby shop here in the next couple of days and see if they have it. Hopefully it will be a good match... On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:37:11 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote: Hi All, I know Riv suggests just touching paint chips up with any old color...but I definitely lean towards the finding a close color match side of things. With that said, anyone have any success finding a close color match for touching up the greyish blue blueish grey Sam Hillborne color. I poked around a bit and found some info on the orange but nada on the blue grey color. I have a couple of chips that are just kinda bugging me like a small rock in the bottom of your shoe kinda deal. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
