[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread ascpgh
Liesl,

This is not a mutually exclusive pair of afflictions (torn meniscus and 
bicycling). I had a pretty bad knee injury that among other damage on the 
surgeon's list included a meniscus tear. They did clip a portion but felt 
in that the long term I'd fare better if thy didn't clip all of the way to 
the base of the tear since it would remove too much useful surface.

Net outcome for me was an occasional situation such as yours, funny 
feeling, harder to extend and increased sensitivity/ buckling during 
episodes. Theory was that some less controlled movement (every knee with a 
meniscus tear has its own sensitive direction of movement which can turn up 
the tear-lberated flap of cartilage making an unnatural spot of double 
thick meniscus) turned up the margin and began the period of affliction. 

Not being as generous as a Rivendell warranty perspective, the follow-on 
diagnostics of my periodic symptoms have been much less than your work up, 
enough said. Being left to my own devices and advise of a number of friends 
closer to the orthopedic or therapy professions than me I have come up with 
this chain of events; Summer ends, my riding decreased and consequently my 
leg muscle tone did as well, including that one on the inside of the front 
of your leg right above the knee. It positions the joint when in extension 
and bulges when your leg is locked straight. All it took was a little 
slowness to contract against the precise slop of movement my meniscus free 
edge took to get turned. Felt like I was limping about several late 
winters. I got serious about it when it creeped into one spring.

I hung from my hands (or armpits for longer periods) trying to relax my 
legs as much as possible, slowly twisting my trunk left then right while 
remaining as loose as possible. Over a few days it felt like the folded 
meniscus unfolded...those things are not instant telegraphed sensations, 
that's why the moment of offense is tough to pin down. To prevent the tone 
loss once able, I began a regimen of locked leg lifts from a supine 
position, beginning barefooted then progressing to incrementally heavier 
footwear. Having done this to recover from the lower tone of winter I opted 
to buck up and just keep riding into and through the winter, I'm an outdoor 
person and my version of hell is indoor calisthenics or a gym. Hieronymous 
Bosch would've had an LA Fitness in this picture if he knew of them: 
http://fullyreconditioned.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/bosch.jpg Some may 
think if you look closely enough you can find a commuter on studded tires 
in that image, but heck you live in Minneapolis!

Hope your medical resources are able to get you out of the cycle and 
outfitted with steps to keep how you feel now at bay.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:39:18 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends,

 I looked back at previous threads, most notably the link below on short 
 cranks and knee pain; however, perhaps this question is slightly different.

 Over the past week or a bit longer, I've developed a really pronounced 
 pain in my right knee.  It's on under the front part of my kneecap and is 
 bad enough that I stopped riding and am limping a bit.  I do think it's 
 riding related.  Here's some info:  I switched pedals maybe a week or two 
 ago from thin griptsters to sneaker pedals.  I switched back and forth 
 between seats/seatposts during this time as well, and may have gotten the 
 height off.  The right knee was bothering me a little bit during this time, 
 but then really got sore two days ago when I rode up a short but extremely 
 steep hill that I usually walk up (for locals, it was the long bit of 
 driveway between pleasant and w. irvine ave adjacent to Ramsey hill).  I 
 dropped down to granny gears and sat part of the way and then stood up to 
 finish the hill.  The next meaning I was just about hobbled—but only my 
 right knee.  Left knee is fine as can be.

 Suggestions?  Advice?  Thanks in advance...

 here's the most previous thread I looked at


 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/short$20crank/rbw-owners-bunch/vJf-xAPTC-Q/cNWWDMyIb1YJ


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[RBW] Re: Hammered Honjo shopping confusion. Help!

2014-08-05 Thread ascpgh
That waffling imprint makes a feeder stiffer with a thinner stock sheet of 
aluminum. Some makers are true to that application of the visual cue, 
others are decorative than structural, pricing accordingly. I got a set of 
Honjos from a liBob lister and thy are truly light. Against others I've 
since seen in person they truly use the hammering as a way to add third 
dimensioning to the sheet stock. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, August 4, 2014 10:50:49 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 OK, looking around online yields so many hammered models my head is 
 spinning.

 There seems to be different model numbers depending on which vendors' site 
 I view.
 Prices seem to range wildly. By more than 50% for hammered Honjos.

 Are they the same, but the different vendors use their own in house model 
 numbers? What is going on here?

 Is there a resource that lists all the current hammered models in one 
 place, so I can make a decision on one, and then go price shopping? Like a 
 Honjo home page?


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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Garth
 
   I cannot see Riv shelving the Sam without something to replace it's 
relative place in their frame offerings .   I for one have been waiting for 
this day , as the Sam's dimensions were never never exactly what I wanted 
.   If this be the Clem or something else who knows as of yet, but when it 
arrives it will be a happy day for many !!!  

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[RBW] Re: 3D lugs?

2014-08-05 Thread Garth

I find this idea interesting.  I for one welcome innovation of all kinds.  
What's good for cycling in any way is good for cycling in general.   Sure, 
these ideas may not appeal to the Riv crowd, but the Riv crowd is 
relatively tiny compared to the whole .  So ideas like this are gonna 
happen sooner and/or later.  

   Taste is such a personal thing, so much so that it is useless to critic 
another's taste.  Yet it's so tempting and we all do it , for awhile at 
least ;) 

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[RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch
anyone missing this?
http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I 
know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.

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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Ken D
If you like two top tubes, wait till you get a load of three! ;)

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[RBW] Re: Hammered Honjo shopping confusion. Help!

2014-08-05 Thread Anton Tutter
Indeed, there is a lot of confusion.  I just went through this myself, 
sourcing some hammered Honjos for my new Jeff Lyon custom.  Not only are 
the widths different, but so are the ends (sculpted versus plain), and some 
models also come completely undrilled and with no hardware.  I ended up 
with the hammered H50's, which measure 51-52mm, have the sculpted ends, and 
came with no hardware or drillings. I sourced the hardware separately. 
 Jitensha and Boulder were the two shops with these models, but I have no 
idea whether Boulder's version is drilled or comes with hardware.  I got 
mine from Jitensha.

This illustration might help:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/13626994354/in/faves-7516215@N03/

Anton


On Monday, August 4, 2014 10:50:49 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 OK, looking around online yields so many hammered models my head is 
 spinning.

 There seems to be different model numbers depending on which vendors' site 
 I view.
 Prices seem to range wildly. By more than 50% for hammered Honjos.

 Are they the same, but the different vendors use their own in house model 
 numbers? What is going on here?

 Is there a resource that lists all the current hammered models in one 
 place, so I can make a decision on one, and then go price shopping? Like a 
 Honjo home page?


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread David Spranger


Okay, here is my (surprising to me) results on my three Rivs:

63 cm AHH ~32 lbs 
with Woody's Fenders, Brooks B17 Select saddle, Nitto M12 front rack, Tubus 
Cosmo rear rack, Bosco Bullmoose bars, IRD/Silver thumb shifters, SP dynamo 
hub and Phillips lights, VO Raid rims, VO Grand Cru Touring hub on rear 
wheel, Sugino Triple crank, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 35 tires, Thin 
Gripster pedals.

62 sm SimpleOne ~26 lbs 
with VO Zepplin fenders, Brooks B17 saddle, Nitto Mini front rack, 
Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, Mustache bar, Sanyo Dyanamo with BM 
Cyo/Seculite lights, VO Raid Rims, VO Grand Cru flip/flop rear hub, VO 
Grand Cru crank with 46t ring, Schwalbe Little Big Ben tires, Thin Gripster 
pedals, Civia chainguard.

60cm Rambouillet ~26 lbs 
with VO Hammered fenders, VO Model 6 saddle, VO Randonneur front rack, 
Carradice 
Bagman saddlebag support, 48 cm Noodle bar, IRD/Silver stem shifters, 
Shimano 3N80 Dynamo hub with BM Cyo/Seculite lights, VO PBP rims, Shimano 
105 rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t/30t rings, Schwalbe Kojak tires, 
MKS Grip King pedals.

David Spranger
Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] Re: seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread Anton Tutter
My God, the fit on that is wrong in so many ways.  If legitimate/not 
stolen, that is a screaming deal.  That is a pretty expensive neighborhood 
and I wouldn't be surprised if the person is honestly selling it at that 
price because he/she can't be bothered to do the due diligence to determine 
its true value.  Bummer I'm not in town or I'd hop on it... that size frame 
would be perfect for my wife.

Anton


On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:33:46 AM UTC-4, Marcus80 wrote:

 anyone missing this?
 http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I 
 know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.


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[RBW] Re: Upcoming visit to the Bay Area - With bike - Recommendations?

2014-08-05 Thread franklyn
Those suggestions already listed are good. Tunnel Road is certainly a favorite. 
One route listed above have you going down on Pinehurst but that's a road you 
should climb up. A popular loop starts you in Berkeley and then through Moraga 
before coming back on Pinehurst.

I will be happy to do a short ride with you on Thursday or Friday of that 
week--i am in Berkeley also.

Unfortunately, my bikes are just a tad too big. My wife's (56cm) might fit, but 
I have to check with her first.

Contact me off list if you want more info on rides, or need tools to 
assemble/adjust your bike once you get it here.

Franklyn
Berkeley, ca

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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread Goshen Peter
What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or Philly
I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure.
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 anyone missing this?
 http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I
 know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.

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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread Goshen Peter
I mean Boston, duh.
On Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or Philly
 I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure.
 On Aug 5, 2014 7:33 AM, 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 anyone missing this?
 http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I
 know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.

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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread Dan McNamara
Speaking of too good to be true:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4603707417.html

Although seems more legit somehow. If I had room in the stable ...



 On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I mean Boston, duh.
 
 On Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or Philly 
 I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure.
 
 On Aug 5, 2014 7:33 AM, 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 anyone missing this?
 http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I 
 know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.
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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch
This guy has a bunch of bikes for sale if you search for Winchester  . I just 
figured that maybe someone would recognize it. A fire sale would be $1200. 

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
unfortunately i don't have a scale at home, but when i picked up my 
simpleone from the bike shop once the mechanic said, it's lighter than i 
expected. ha. that seems like a win to me! although i assured him that was 
only because the medium saddesack and wald basket were empty.

-hudson in atx

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:20:41 AM UTC-5, David Spranger wrote:



 Okay, here is my (surprising to me) results on my three Rivs:

 63 cm AHH ~32 lbs 
 with Woody's Fenders, Brooks B17 Select saddle, Nitto M12 front rack, 
 Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Bosco Bullmoose bars, IRD/Silver thumb shifters, SP 
 dynamo hub and Phillips lights, VO Raid rims, VO Grand Cru Touring hub on 
 rear wheel, Sugino Triple crank, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 35 tires, Thin 
 Gripster pedals.

 62 sm SimpleOne ~26 lbs 
 with VO Zepplin fenders, Brooks B17 saddle, Nitto Mini front rack, 
 Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, Mustache bar, Sanyo Dyanamo with BM 
 Cyo/Seculite lights, VO Raid Rims, VO Grand Cru flip/flop rear hub, VO 
 Grand Cru crank with 46t ring, Schwalbe Little Big Ben tires, Thin Gripster 
 pedals, Civia chainguard.

 60cm Rambouillet ~26 lbs 
 with VO Hammered fenders, VO Model 6 saddle, VO Randonneur front rack, 
 Carradice 
 Bagman saddlebag support, 48 cm Noodle bar, IRD/Silver stem shifters, 
 Shimano 3N80 Dynamo hub with BM Cyo/Seculite lights, VO PBP rims, Shimano 
 105 rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t/30t rings, Schwalbe Kojak tires, 
 MKS Grip King pedals.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC


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Re: [RBW] Upcoming visit to the Bay Area - With bike - Recommendations?

2014-08-05 Thread Jenny Oh Hatfield
I don't own this perm, but it's a good one! It starts in Oakland 
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2063647 and is a round trip route to 
Danville, where you can snack. Has some lovely climbs but won't be too 
strenuous after 3CR (I'm doing the 1000k, btw, good luck!) You can find the 
reg materials on the SFR site http://sfrandonneurs.org/permanents.htm and 
the owner, Kitty, is riding 3CR also (1200k). 

Cheers,

Jenny
Oakland, CA 

On Monday, August 4, 2014 5:18:02 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I am here now and after 3CR will be looking to explore before going home.  
 Does anyone on this list own a RUSA permanent?


  

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[RBW] Re: fs: Velocity made Riv Standard Wheelset ~ 26

2014-08-05 Thread Eric
Plus I'll also include SKS P55 fenders (the cool ones without the 
mudguards, not the longboard ones) that were outfitted on my Atlantis. 
Plus some necessary mounting hardwear.


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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread BSWP
Looks like the seat and pedals were removed, not at all unusual, and an 
el-cheapo seat plopped into the seat tube, to help potential buyers 
visualize the cycle.

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:21:38 AM UTC-7, Marcus80 wrote:

 This guy has a bunch of bikes for sale if you search for Winchester  . I 
 just figured that maybe someone would recognize it. A fire sale would be 
 $1200. 

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[RBW] FT: Nitto Big Back Rack (M) for Big Back Rack (L) / FS: Schwalbe Mondial Tires

2014-08-05 Thread jar351
Good afternoon everyone,

My BBR (M) has been used for about a year and a half for commuting and 
grocery getting. It's in good shape and comes with regular mounting 
hardware. I've just realized that the large version would fit my bike a 
little better, so I'm looking to trade up. If anyone's got a Large they'd 
like to trade (or sell), hit me up with a private message.

I've also got a pair of mounted-but-never-used 28x1.75 (700c x 44.5) 
folding Schwalbe Mondials (Evolution Line) that I'd like to unload. Maybe 
$100 shipped?

Have a great week!

Andre R.
Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Paul's brakes on your Riv. Experience between models?

2014-08-05 Thread Thomas Skean
I've used Tektro drop-bar linear-pull-compatible levers with my Motolites with 
no problem. I've been led to believe that my levers are actually just sort of 
generic Cane Creek Drop-V levers. That could be wrong. But in any case the 
Tektro levers worked fine. (There's nothing like a Paul Love Lever 2.5 to go 
with Motolites, though; they just feel solid and reassuring. Probably just 
because I like the looks of both the levers and the brakes. :))

Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Tuning Brake Squeal

2014-08-05 Thread BenG
RCW, I too spent some time in music.  Do you remember hearing a universal 
tuning note called A440? Meaning the string, or whatever, moves 440 cycles 
per second. So braking causes some components on your bike to vibrate at the 
frequencies called high D (faster) and low E (slower).  I spent less time in 
physics, more in engineering, and still can't figure out natural frequency, but 
the diameter of a string, its length and its tension might all affect pitch. 
Variables like those in a brake squeal situation could include rim diameter, 
rim sidewall stiffness/size, length/rigidity of brake arms and pads. Music 
instruments are simple by comparison! 

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Samuel Hillborne

56cm, single TT
Soba bars, Shimano brakelevers, silver barcon shifters, pearl stem, paul 
touring cantilevers
Ritchey 94/58 supercompact double (42/29), campy front der XT short cage 
rear, Riv 9sp 12-34 cassette. SRAM chain, XT SPD pedals
Matrix ceramic rims 32 hole, C-Line tires 700x38, xt hubs and skewers
Original Flite saddle, XC pro seatpost
two king cages, nitto mini front rack, brass bell

25.0lbs

Gunnar Double speed

Waterford custom Gunnar, dura ace headset
Tech DLX stem, noodle bars, tektro levers, newbaums tape
tektro bigmouth brakes, phil 32 hole bolt on hub, mavic open pro rims, 
skinny 26mm new express tires
campy mirage 110bcd cranks 35/38 rings, white Dos freewheel 16/19
marks rack, HARack, HA panniers (empty), sackville trunksack small (with 
toolkit)
Nitto s83 seatpost Avocet Ti R40 saddle
One king cage

27.0 lbs

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:40:21 AM UTC-7, Hudson Doerge wrote:

 unfortunately i don't have a scale at home, but when i picked up my 
 simpleone from the bike shop once the mechanic said, it's lighter than i 
 expected. ha. that seems like a win to me! although i assured him that was 
 only because the medium saddesack and wald basket were empty.

 -hudson in atx




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[RBW] FS: Pedals/ Tires/ Cranks/Bullmoose/ Brakes and more!

2014-08-05 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group,   just trying to thin some stuff out.   All items are used but 
in good shape.   Prices dont include shipping,  will most likely use USPS 
flat rate  so should be between $6-$18, depending on size,   deals for 
multiple items!   please email off list,   thank you!!

1)  Two( 2) PAIR MKS touring pedals   $15/ each
2)  1 pair MKS stream pedal, just like the touring pedal, but a slightly 
smaller platform   Left pedal slightly bent from pedal strike  $5/pair
3)  1 set Shimano CX70 Canti brakes,  they come with 3 sets of spacers 
short/ med/ long,   its missing one of the long ones  pads are in okay 
shape$50
4)   I set of Cane Creek  SCX-5 canti brakes,  black,   pads are okay   $20
5)   Vee Rubber XCX 650Bx1.95   used but still good  ,   i could fit these 
on Bleriot easily   $10/ pair
6)   Original Fatty Rumpkins   $10/pair
7)   Vee Rubber   V12700x 1.75$15/ pair
8)   Kenda Karma 700x 1.95   basically new   $5/ pair
9)   Sugino XD2 crank arms   175   $30
10)  Sugino GP 110,  triple chainring compatible,  175 crank arm length   
 $15
11)Shimano 105 Rear Der.  Med cage originally 9 speed,   $10
12)   Nitto Bullmoose bars,   150mm extension, dull brite finish  I cut 
them to 61cm width vs 66 standard,   $40
13)   Jannd small frame triangle bag/ seat pouch  red,  $5 for both!

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[RBW] Also FS Tektro Quartz brake levers

2014-08-05 Thread Michael Williams
forgot these

Tektro Quartz Brake levers for Cantis/ sidepulls,   $5/pair

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[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-08-05 Thread Philip Williamson
Patches are in stock and ready to ship! The second run of patches arrived 
on Monday. If you bought a patch, they're in the mail. I addressed all the 
envelopes last night, and got the patches in the box shortly after 
midnight. 
See them here on Etsy: http://etsy.me/1ycii2f

About the patches: The three bicycles show the three different production 
runs of Rivendell's Quickbeam bicycle: Green (like mine), Orange, and 
Silver. Each bike is shown set up in a different way, with different tires, 
bars, and style. The knobbies on the green one came out really well - 
offroad fixed gear, with flared drops and a front bag. The orange one is 
set up as a light road machine, with only a seat bag, and the silver is 
flaneur style, with matching bags front and rear, and upright bars. 
These are very high-quality 4 patches, embroidered in America by a bicycle 
afficionado, made to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Quickbeam 
bicycle and the 20th anniversary of Rivendell Bicycle Works. If you like 
fixed gear bikes, singlespeeds, Rivendells, or patches, you are welcome to 
get one.

Tee shirts: I have one M and one L left, each with an orange bike. $25 + $5 
shipping. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 6:11:02 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I should be able to ship the second run of patches out on or about August 
 3rd.
 Thanks for the orders and the shop feedback!

 Entmoot Patches: http://etsy.me/1ycii2f

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com



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[RBW] FS: Pedals/ Tires/ Cranks/Bullmoose/ Brakes and more!

2014-08-05 Thread bo richardson
there is a gentleman on the Minneapolis craigslist iso bullmoose bars
i would take your mks stream pedals
i only need the right, unbent one
for my brompton
bo richardson
po box 3143
bellingham wa. 98227
i cant get email addresses with my ipad
so an email with paypal address or other 
payment option would be good 

thanks
bo

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

2014-08-05 Thread hsmitham
Ditto what Patrick suggested on colors. You know I'm on board Phillip.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 7:42:52 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:

 Philip,

 Immediately after submitting my design suggestion, I did a forehead slap, 
 and reminded myself that you (an artist) would want to use your own design.

 Regarding colors, ditto what Patrick said.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas



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[RBW] Captain hook basket net looks nice!

2014-08-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
CAP'N!! https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/netrbw.htm

Since I had the 40.5lb Bombadill down off her hook, I went ahead and did 
the Grant-procedure on my normal black cargo-net.  It comes with 4 
removable hooks.  Remove two hooks and zip-tie one side of the rectangular 
cargo net to one side of your basket.  Use two (or three) hooks to treat 
your cargo-net like a cargo-LID.  

This Captain Hook net looks even better.  I'll have to remember to add one 
to my next order.  I particularly like this part of the description:

Tip-tip: They come with four hooks. Remove two, tie those two corners onto 
the basket, and then replace two small hooks from another net with the two 
you just took off. Then you’ll have two spare smallish hooks, and those’ll 
get you nowhere, but keep them around anyway.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Clayton, that is EPIC.  Those fierce pannier flair bits are particularly 
cool.  Tell us about your frame decals?

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

 36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front 
 and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount 
 kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and 
 Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT 
 is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

 Clayton


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front 
and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount 
kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and 
Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT 
is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

Clayton

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[RBW] Re: Hammered Honjo shopping confusion. Help!

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Campbell
Nice graphic! I wish they included the inside dimention as well

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:19:09 AM UTC-4, Anton Tutter wrote:

 Indeed, there is a lot of confusion.  I just went through this myself, 
 sourcing some hammered Honjos for my new Jeff Lyon custom.  Not only are 
 the widths different, but so are the ends (sculpted versus plain), and some 
 models also come completely undrilled and with no hardware.  I ended up 
 with the hammered H50's, which measure 51-52mm, have the sculpted ends, and 
 came with no hardware or drillings. I sourced the hardware separately. 
  Jitensha and Boulder were the two shops with these models, but I have no 
 idea whether Boulder's version is drilled or comes with hardware.  I got 
 mine from Jitensha.

 This illustration might help:  
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/13626994354/in/faves-7516215@N03/

 Anton


 On Monday, August 4, 2014 10:50:49 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 OK, looking around online yields so many hammered models my head is 
 spinning.

 There seems to be different model numbers depending on which vendors' 
 site I view.
 Prices seem to range wildly. By more than 50% for hammered Honjos.

 Are they the same, but the different vendors use their own in house model 
 numbers? What is going on here?

 Is there a resource that lists all the current hammered models in one 
 place, so I can make a decision on one, and then go price shopping? Like a 
 Honjo home page?



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[RBW] ISO 30 mm seat post clamp w/ rear hanger

2014-08-05 Thread Conway Bennett
Preferably if any of you Chicagoans could take a look in your parts bins I'd 
appreciate it.


FW,

CCB

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Joe Broach
63 Riv Canti-Rom
28.5 pounds with pump and lights but without toolkit and usual around town
load
more or less stock build except
nitto m12 front rack
aerohead wheelset with SON front hub and Phil freewheel rear
B17

Following Grant's rule for stating bike weights, rider weighs about 5x the
bike. I also have a Rawland Nordavinden built up about 4 pounds lighter. I
can't tell the weight difference between them, so I guess my tolerance is
at least +/- 4 pounds.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clayton, that is EPIC.  Those fierce pannier flair bits are particularly
 cool.  Tell us about your frame decals?


 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

 36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front
 and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount
 kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and
 Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT
 is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

 Clayton

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
This is just a SWAG, but

55cm Betty Foy = around 38-ish pounds, without my pannier. 

Build list: (Sorry about the formatting, I copied it directly from an excel 
spreadsheet)

  Crankset Sugino XD 600 26-36-46  Bottom Bracket Shimano  Pedals Velo 
Orange Grand Cru Sabot  Chain SRAM PC 971  Cassette / Freewheel SRAM 11-32  
   Derailleur (front) Shimano Tiagra Triple  Derailleur (rear) Shimano Deore
   Hubs Shimano Deore LX 36 hole  Spokes (front / rear) Sapim Strong 13-14G 
/ Dt Swiss Nipples  Rim (pair) VO Diagonale 650B Silver  Tubes Standard  Rim 
Tapes Schwalbe Cloth  Tire (pair) Soma New Express 650b Terra Cotta   
Seatpost Velo Orange Grand Cru  Stem Soma Sutro
 Handlebar Nitto Boscos
 Grips / Tape Ergon GP1  Headset Shimano Ultegra  Shifters IRD Thumb 
Shifters  Shifter Cables Jagwire Stainless Steel  Brake Levers Shimano BLR 
550 Silver  Brake Calipers Tektro 559 Long Reach  Brake Cables

Jagwire Stainless Steel

SKS Longboards (Cream)
Nitto  Mark's Rack

 

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
When I got that email, it took all I had not to place an order. But then I 
thought Why? Whatever Sam can do, Betty can do just as well.  But I was 
*really, 
really* tempted.

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of years 
 to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if you 
 don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This 
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From 
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while 
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or 
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things 
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have 
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted. 
 Like a Romulus, a Quickbeam, etc etc.

 Tailwinds.  


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[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
Ye gods. I've had a torn meniscus (on top of all my other knee wonkery). It 
isn't fun, but luckily the surgery -- if you go that route -- is 
outpatient, and you should be riding again in about 3-4 weeks after 
surgery. 

Limping in solidarity,
Cecily 

On Monday, August 4, 2014 4:11:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 Well, pain hasn't subsided after all this time so I went to the doctor. 
 The tentative diagnosis is a torn meniscus. MRI tomorrow morning and an 
 appointment with a sports medicine MD to determine whether I should do PT 
 or have surgery.

 Over the weekend I talked with Vince at Riv about saddle height. I checked 
 my saddle height and it was maybe a half-inch *high* after all my afore 
 mentioned fiddling around. Unknown if this was the culprit or exasperated 
 an existing condition. 

 I should add that decades of backing up a touring motorcycle from a riding 
 position took its toll as well. (Black 1973 BMW R75/5 with a toaster tank 
 for those inquiring minds)

 Anyway, keep y'all posted as I know more. In the meantime, still off the 
 bike.

 Limpingly yours,
 RCW 



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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread eflayer
FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded bottom 
bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the lightness of 
being.
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
I don't have a Kindle, but I do have a Kobo Aura (similar to the Kindle's 
Paperwhite, but Canadian). Even though I have an iPad Mini, I keep the Kobo 
around for longer reading sessions. It's distraction free, there is no 
glare when reading in direct sunlight, and the light weight is so much 
easier on my achy wrists than even the very light iPad. 

Even when using the Aura's built-in light, I can go about a month between 
charges. More if I remember to shut it off instead of just putting it to 
sleep. I imagine the Kindle has similar results.

You can read free Project Gutenberg titles on a Kindle by going to 
m.gutenberg.org from the Kindle, or by downloading the files to your 
computer and transferring them to the Kindle using a USB cable. 

You *can* use it for Gmail, but I'm not sure you *should*. The processor 
and memory in dedicated eBook readers make them poor choices for email, 
except in the most extreme circumstances. If you have a smartphone, use 
that instead. 



On Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:19:31 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I have more and more books on the Kindle system and I'm seriously thinking 
 of getting a small screen device on which to read them -- in between my 
 iPhone 4 and my 17 Macbook Pro.

 I'm inclined toward the basic Kindle at $70 since I want it very largely 
 for reading and because it is light (and cheap). But a couple of questions 
 for those of you who have used such things.

 1. Will the basic Kindle download and display books from The Gutenberg 
 Project and other such sites? (I don't order from Apple, so it needn't 
 handle their products.)

 2. Can one read and send gmail on the basic Kindle?

 3. How long in reality does the battery hold a charge on average with 
 daily use of, say 3 hours?

 I'll welcome other practical comments.

 Bike content: I'd take it with me on a bike tour.

 Thanks, Patrick who not too long ago discovered the free and almost-free 
 classics available from Amazon.

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 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
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  * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. 
 Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
 Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Aaron Schmidt
I was happy to read Grant's post, tho for selfish reasons! Maybe with a 
lack of Sams I'll be able to sell mine for a little bit more than I could 
now. And then I could justify buying a AHH! Why do I want an AHH when I 
have a SH? *sigh* Maybe for the same reason Cecily was tempted to go for a 
Sam?





On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:39:01 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 When I got that email, it took all I had not to place an order. But then I 
 thought Why? Whatever Sam can do, Betty can do just as well.  But I was 
 *really, 
 really* tempted.

 On Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of years 
 to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if you 
 don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This 
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From 
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while 
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or 
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things 
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have 
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted. 
 Like a Romulus, a Quickbeam, etc etc.

 Tailwinds.  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread Tim McNamara
I too had a torn medial meniscus repaired arthroscopically in 2005. The 
procedure itself was very quick, probably no more than half an hour, and in my 
case I was starting to ride the bike after about six weeks. Since then I have 
had no trouble with it and have been very comfortable. I was able to resume my 
normal bike riding over about a two month period, building up gradually, as 
pushing it too quickly did cause some pain. I know randonneurs who had this 
surgery and are able to write much farther and faster than I care to try.  

It is possible that having a settle to Highwood aggravate the condition. In my 
case I started having pain when I went to 180 mm cranks from my usual 175. The 
difference seem to be just enough to get my range of motion into the 
problematic area.  Going back to 175s did not solve the problem, hence the 
eventual trip to the orthopedic surgeon.

Leisl, since you're in the Twin Cities area, I would wholeheartedly recommend 
my surgeon to you. If you're interested in the name drop me a line.

 On Aug 5, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ye gods. I've had a torn meniscus (on top of all my other knee wonkery). It 
 isn't fun, but luckily the surgery -- if you go that route -- is outpatient, 
 and you should be riding again in about 3-4 weeks after surgery. 
 
 Limping in solidarity,
 Cecily 
 
 On Monday, August 4, 2014 4:11:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
 Well, pain hasn't subsided after all this time so I went to the doctor. The 
 tentative diagnosis is a torn meniscus. MRI tomorrow morning and an 
 appointment with a sports medicine MD to determine whether I should do PT or 
 have surgery.
 Over the weekend I talked with Vince at Riv about saddle height. I checked 
 my saddle height and it was maybe a half-inch *high* after all my afore 
 mentioned fiddling around. Unknown if this was the culprit or exasperated an 
 existing condition.
 
 I should add that decades of backing up a touring motorcycle from a riding 
 position took its toll as well. (Black 1973 BMW R75/5 with a toaster tank 
 for those inquiring minds)
 
 Anyway, keep y'all posted as I know more. In the meantime, still off the 
 bike.
 
 Limpingly yours,
 RCW
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire

2014-08-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Eric, Chris Lampe, Cecily: thanks for the further information. Since Chris
Murray so generously offered me the Fire, I'll give that a try first -- $0
is a great incentive -- and, if it does not work out, it will go up for
grabs (free) on this list and I will buy a Kindle -- not sure if it would
be a Basic or a Paperwhite, though.

Patrick Moore, who just made it back from Colorado Springs to Rio Rancho,
NM in 4H 55M in a POS rented Chevy Impala and wants very much to take a
bike ride.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire

2014-08-05 Thread Chris Chen
Paperwhite is pretty good. And it lasts for a while on a charge. Nice to
bring along on a tour and not worry about charging it.

cc


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 Murray so generously offered me the Fire, I'll give that a try first -- $0
 is a great incentive -- and, if it does not work out, it will go up for
 grabs (free) on this list and I will buy a Kindle -- not sure if it would
 be a Basic or a Paperwhite, though.

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 NM in 4H 55M in a POS rented Chevy Impala and wants very much to take a
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, the Unbearable Lightness of Being! I want to play, too, but I've been
out of town. Will weight and list and post before this thread dies.

Patrick and if I don't, who cares?Moore


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote:

 FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded
 bottom bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the
 lightness of being.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Hugh Smitham
Humm...AHH over a Hillborne? Can't fault you as I have a Hilsen. Fact is
they ride equally well. I went for the Hilsen purely for esthetics. And yet
what Rivendell has done with the Hillborne in terms of various builds is
fantastic.  Initially, I didn't like the Dbl top tube but now I think it's
awesome even on a 56 cm which some think is absurd.

Still wouldn't trade the other way though.

~Hughcontent with his custom green AHH.
On Aug 5, 2014 3:01 PM, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was happy to read Grant's post, tho for selfish reasons! Maybe with a
 lack of Sams I'll be able to sell mine for a little bit more than I could
 now. And then I could justify buying a AHH! Why do I want an AHH when I
 have a SH? *sigh* Maybe for the same reason Cecily was tempted to go for a
 Sam?





 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:39:01 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 When I got that email, it took all I had not to place an order. But then
 I thought Why? Whatever Sam can do, Betty can do just as well.  But I was 
 *really,
 really* tempted.

 On Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of years
 to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if you
 don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted.
 Like a Romulus, a Quickbeam, etc etc.

 Tailwinds.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Chris Chen
...and if you wanted a MUSA bike the Hilsen was and IS the way to go. Even
in the days when Hillborne frames were made at Waterford, the Forks will
from Taiwan.

cc


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Humm...AHH over a Hillborne? Can't fault you as I have a Hilsen. Fact is
 they ride equally well. I went for the Hilsen purely for esthetics. And yet
 what Rivendell has done with the Hillborne in terms of various builds is
 fantastic.  Initially, I didn't like the Dbl top tube but now I think it's
 awesome even on a 56 cm which some think is absurd.

 Still wouldn't trade the other way though.

 ~Hughcontent with his custom green AHH.
 On Aug 5, 2014 3:01 PM, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was happy to read Grant's post, tho for selfish reasons! Maybe with a
 lack of Sams I'll be able to sell mine for a little bit more than I could
 now. And then I could justify buying a AHH! Why do I want an AHH when I
 have a SH? *sigh* Maybe for the same reason Cecily was tempted to go for a
 Sam?





 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:39:01 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 When I got that email, it took all I had not to place an order. But then
 I thought Why? Whatever Sam can do, Betty can do just as well.  But I was 
 *really,
 really* tempted.

 On Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of
 years to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if
 you don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted.
 Like a Romulus, a Quickbeam, etc etc.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Advice about basic Kindle versus Kindle Fire

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Platt
The basic is nice, but spring for the Paperwhite if you end up buying.
 Makes it easier to read at night.  Both on tour or just sitting around the
house.  I've seen enough of them to appreciate the improvement.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


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 Paperwhite is pretty good. And it lasts for a while on a charge. Nice to
 bring along on a tour and not worry about charging it.

 cc


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 Chris Murray so generously offered me the Fire, I'll give that a try first
 -- $0 is a great incentive -- and, if it does not work out, it will go up
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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Serial Griller
Correct me if I'm mistaken ( I'm new here) but I just read Grant's Blug and 
it says he has single color Sams and he will be getting blue/ cream Sams in 
Sept.???
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:50:04 PM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of years 
 to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if you 
 don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This 
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From 
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while 
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or 
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things 
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have 
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted. 
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[RBW] Re: Get them while they're hot

2014-08-05 Thread Serial Griller
Oops My mistake..After September they will be gone..Sorry
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:50:04 PM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:

 Grant notes in the blug that Sam is going on leave for a couple of years 
 to allow some new things to happen. He suggests picking one up now if you 
 don't want to wait a few years once the near term supply is gone.  This 
 reminds me of the posting in 2007 that Rambouillet was taking a nap.  From 
 which it never woke, despite being a good seller (1200+) as Hillborne is.

 My point is, if you think you might want a Sam Hillborne, get one while 
 you can. It may not come back, if some other bike or currency exchange or 
 whatever goes in an as yet unknown way.   Typical really of most things 
 RBW. If you like it, get it. It might not be there next time.  They'll have 
 good stuff for sure, just maybe not that specific item you always wanted. 
 Like a Romulus, a Quickbeam, etc etc.

 Tailwinds.  


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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-05 Thread jeffrey kane
Dan, that is a crazy find, looks legit and while I'd have to loose that 
stem, I could see myself riding off into the sunset on that baby --- for 
$1200.00  Truly a steal!

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:09:21 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 Speaking of too good to be true:

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4603707417.html

 Although seems more legit somehow. If I had room in the stable ...



 On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I mean Boston, duh. 
 On Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or Philly 
 I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure. 
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 anyone missing this?
 http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I 
 know its paranoid, but it seems sketchy.

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[RBW] Sunrise Coffee Club Tomorrow @ Pirate/Punk Rock

2014-08-05 Thread Chris Chen
Be there. Sunrise.

xoxo

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[RBW] fs: Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem ~ Nitto S83 seatpost ~ BAR TAPE!

2014-08-05 Thread Eric
*Three things for sale. All prices included shipping in CONUS. PayPal is 
great but funds must be sent via pay for goods with fees covered and sent 
to your confirmed shipping address. *

1) Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem. 10cm in length / 26.0 clamp. Used but great 
shape. $45

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2) Nitto S82 seat post. 27.2 diamter. Typical grease  insertion marks. $65 

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3) Six rolls of bar tape. (2) Blue, (2) Dark Blue of Newbaum's and (2) used 
roll of cork. $20

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-05 Thread Tony DeFilippo
A triumphant return to this thread... so after noodling through (with all 
your assistance) my 1xN thoughts I doubled down by shortening my chain on 
the existing Sugino triple and continuing to ride throughout the month of 
June and July.  I never missed my big or small ring and was getting pretty 
used to the 36T main ring but often felt I could go w/ a slightly higher #T 
in the front.  Even with the shortened chain I continued to get chain hop 
on the front end, mostly with a ghost shift up to the big 46T chain ring 
when I was in the higher/smaller gear in the back.  It was actually pretty 
consistent even w/ a fairly short chain.

I was just about to order a set of Surly Stainless chainrings, 40 or 42T 
when I go the opportunity to trade in my (useless to me) 180mm WI Eno crank 
along with some other goodies for a 175 mm WI Eno crank, installed 44T SS 
chainring and some other goodies.  

WOW this crank/chainring is sweet. I love the look both from on and off the 
bike and I love the feel.  I went ahead and changed out the chain and 
cassette at the same time.  The Saluki does deserve a new derailleur at 
some point but this exage salvaged off my XO-3's original equipment is 
doing fine for now.  So far so good w/ chain jump, I may end up adding a 
Paul chain keeper just in case but for now the combo of SS chainring and 
new chain is working good and solid.  

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/08/new-drivetrain-feeling.html

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[RBW] Blue Sam Stealthborne on Baltimore area Clist

2014-08-05 Thread lungimsam
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4603144655.html

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[RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-05 Thread lungimsam
Congrats Tony! Looks good too! 

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[RBW] My new 53 NIB Bleriot

2014-08-05 Thread lungimsam
So I bought this new in box 53 Bleriot frameset.
I was thinking of buying the build kit from RBW, but they don't sell just 
the build kit.
You can only buy their build kit with purchase of frameset. Or buy the 
parts separately, which will cost more.

So I got it built up and bought parts thru local bike shoppe. 8-speed drop 
bar build.

I am excited about the new *GB rims* that are supposed to make GB tire 
mounting a breeze.
I am also excited about the 8-speed drivetrain. I am hoping it will make 
friction shifting a near-auto-shiftless experience.
I am also excited about getting the *SunXCD* all silver rear derailer. They 
are gonna try and get it from Merry Sales.
Shoppes choice of FD. They say NOS Campy all silver they have in stock.
Everything else is on the bike now. Just needs the derailers and a chain.
Just waiting for the LBshoppe to get in the rear derailer.

*Pics to come.* I hope this works out. The wife says I should leave it 
tapeless as the bling of the NITTO bars is so nice. But I like grip. So I 
have some Aquamarine bartape from Green Grips I hope will be a close match 
to frame color after a few shellac attacks.

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[RBW] Re: Blue Sam Stealthborne on Baltimore area Clist

2014-08-05 Thread lungimsam
not mine


On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 1:10:29 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4603144655.html


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