Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
I love that they have jerseys, etc. that are designed for women, even though they wouldn't fit me. It's too bad - I really wanted that Long Haul Trucker t-shirt with the woman hauling all the stuff. I have a love-hate (mostly hate) relationship with Surly's marketing, but to my mind, they've hit this out of the box. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:33:56 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I am not remotely disappointed in Surly. Their wool stuff looks great. And they have jerseys designed for women! Ibex sold striped wool shirts before Rivendell. Doesn't mean that Rivendell is a bad yucky copycat; just means that people like wool shirts with stripes. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Bruce Smitham wine...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: OK, I'll admit that I own a Surly Pacer and have owned a LHT to get me down the coast of California in the summer when my a Soma San Marcos build didn't work out. I am disappointed in Surly these days. The Racing Sucks is so close to Un-Racer and now they are making wool stripped shirts that totally resemble the ones Riv is making. I just read it in their blog here: http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/the_goods_that_are_soft Bruce just a little disappointed in Surly Smitham in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply
Don't want to steer anyone away from Rivendell, but if your custom needs drift from GP's philosophy, Joel Greenblatt / Clockwork is a magician with steel. He was in Milwaukee a few years but now is back in his home town of Minneapolis. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:34:38 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: really striking - great job. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:47:47 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I had this rack made for my bad weather bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clockworkbikes/sets/72157638195903946/ Ultimately I decided the trail and geometry are not optimal for riding with significant weight above the tire. Recently had the rack taken off and am using the bike in its original configuration. Now I have no further use for the rack. It is a beautiful well designed rack and really ought to be in use on a beautiful well designed bike. As you can see from the pictures, this will only work on a fork built around the rack. It has six attachment points. Top two attach to braze on Paul RacerMs (may work with Racers, I do not know how different if at all, the boss attachments are for the Racers). Bottom four to either side of mid- through fork rack mounts. Internal light wiring. The rack is fillet brazed stainless steel. It will last as long as any painted bike I'm thinking. This rack serves no purpose at all to anyone here unless you are about to commit to a Riv custom but have not already settled on a fork. The builder will need the rack in order to get the fork points done. If this is you, let me know. All I want is shipping and handling. If this is not you, no sense in moving this on as it can sit looking pretty in my storage area as well as yours. Again, there is no rigging this thing to a non-rack specific fork. It is totally custom. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
Oh, just shut up and drink the Kool-aid already! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:18:05 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
I take it you mean this rather tongue-in-cheek . . lol :) In appreciation of . On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:18:05 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
Rivendell didn't invent them http://blog.training4cyclist.netdna-cdn.com/pictures/timetrial.jpg they just stuck with them On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:18:05 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
Very, very nice report. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iron Rider Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:00 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain. For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Hey, imagine if some of the really big manufacturers adopted more of the Riv ethos, (or the Surly ethos, for that matter)... don't you think that would potentially take the biking industry in a direction that we could all be happier about? I for one think I'd be even happier in a world that's more Rivish and more Surly... uh Surly-ish... uh... Surly-burly...(*there ya go*)... Peace, BB On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:48:07 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Hey Bruce, You just brought up a long term debate in this group Riv Vs Surly...as much as I love Riv I recognize that they didn't reinvent the bike, but have promoted an ethos I agree with as I know you do. I subscribe to the idea that the more selection the better whether in bicycles or clothing, especially in regards to affordability. Though I'm set with bikes I really look forward to the Clem Jr. Lastly, the fact that Surly manufacturers fat tire bikes is a boon for those that want the ability to traverse difficult surfaces that a 2 tire would struggle in. I looked at the Surly wool selection and am nonplussed. I gravitate to Rivs style anyway. I could have summed it all up with the words, The more the better. -Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.
Several listers have asked about green ACW mugs...I've got some made now, there's two sizes available. www.bradclick.bigcartel.com The recent talk about the Rivendell wool stripe shirt reminded me I put a deposit on one as to not repeat my missing of the purple version. Generally I am not enticed by pre-order type sales of anything, but it seems recently that is THE modus operandi out there. Especially noticed in the bike industry. I was pretty shocked with the Appaloosa presale, specifically the give us a large chunk of change for a bike we will not tell you aboutaside from it'll be neat-o. But, I realize Rivendell makes great stuff, and doesn't miss the mark often (if at all?) so that goes a long way in buyer confidence. They apparently are successful since they fill the slots and sell the goods. I want to do tees for the ACW, though I've been concerned with how many and what sizes so maybe a pre-sale is the answer? That said, I'm not Rivendell who can show a picture of a headbadge and have people line up with wallets prized open. Do you think these pre-sales are a key to bringing cool US made goods to market that otherwise would just remain good ideas? Is it a can of worms to open up public opinion and influence because you'll never make everyone happy? T-shirts are silly, and not really part of the equation, but I AM curious about the pre-order phenomenon. For the record, I am eagerly awaiting the wooly stripy, and had an awesome experience with my Ocean Air Cycles Docena pre-order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.
Re the Appaloosa pre-sale, I was pretty shocked that I was one of the trusting souls who signed up. But, boy, I’m really glad I did. My Mystery Bike (proto-App) is an awesome bike. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:39 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering. Several listers have asked about green ACW mugs...I've got some made now, there's two sizes available. www.bradclick.bigcartel.comhttp://www.bradclick.bigcartel.com The recent talk about the Rivendell wool stripe shirt reminded me I put a deposit on one as to not repeat my missing of the purple version. Generally I am not enticed by pre-order type sales of anything, but it seems recently that is THE modus operandi out there. Especially noticed in the bike industry. I was pretty shocked with the Appaloosa presale, specifically the give us a large chunk of change for a bike we will not tell you aboutaside from it'll be neat-o. But, I realize Rivendell makes great stuff, and doesn't miss the mark often (if at all?) so that goes a long way in buyer confidence. They apparently are successful since they fill the slots and sell the goods. I want to do tees for the ACW, though I've been concerned with how many and what sizes so maybe a pre-sale is the answer? That said, I'm not Rivendell who can show a picture of a headbadge and have people line up with wallets prized open. Do you think these pre-sales are a key to bringing cool US made goods to market that otherwise would just remain good ideas? Is it a can of worms to open up public opinion and influence because you'll never make everyone happy? T-shirts are silly, and not really part of the equation, but I AM curious about the pre-order phenomenon. For the record, I am eagerly awaiting the wooly stripy, and had an awesome experience with my Ocean Air Cycles Docena pre-order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
I wish Surly would make a 2.2 version of the Knard. I've read a lot of really positive reviews and comments on the tire and now there is even a 41mm version. However, 40mm tires are now skinny to me (my current bike will easily fit them) and I'm working on getting a bike that will take true 29'er tires. I'm intrigued by the 29+ tires (3) but that might be overkill considering the riding I'm likely to do. A bike like the Hunqapillar or VO's Camargue, with 2.2 Knards would probably be a great combination. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:04:39 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I haven't put a 2 tire on my Atlantis. The widest I've put is 1.7. But so far I LOVE the Knards. They stick to anything. (Supposedly they are subpar in mud. We're in a drought, so I can't speak to that.) They have way better traction than anything else I've ridden. I took a beginner's mountain biking class. One thing they talked about was riding over obstacles like logs and curbs. Preload the suspension (yeah that's useful on a bike with no suspension), pull up on the handlebars just as you approach the obstacle, blah blah blah. With the Knards, when I see a 5 curb or log, I just ride at it, and the bike goes over it. No technique required. Just ride. I was trying to climb a steep section of a fire road. Out of habit, I avoided the gravel section on the left, figuring I'd have bad traction, and instead failed on the rough, rocky right side because I didn't have enough power to get over the roughest parts. After several tries, I realized that the Knards give way better traction than the smooth tires I had previously used on this fire road, so I rode up the gravel. I might as well have been riding smooth pavement for all the traction trouble I had: none. The Knards didn't slip a millimeter. No problem, up I went. Deep gravel, deep sand, ruts: I don't have to pick a line. I can just ride the bike. I must admit that the Krampus is not a fast bike on the road. That's the disadvantage. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Anne: did you ever write up a review of the Knard? Whether so or no, I'd be interested to learn how it handles and how it rides over soft and rough ground, compared to the Atlantis or any other ~2 tired bike you've ridden. Actually, I'm most interested in learning how 3 tires differ on soft and on rough surfaces compared to 2 tires. Thanks. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I am not remotely disappointed in Surly. Their wool stuff looks great. And they have jerseys designed for women! Ibex sold striped wool shirts before Rivendell. Doesn't mean that Rivendell is a bad yucky copycat; just means that people like wool shirts with stripes. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Bruce Smitham wine...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: OK, I'll admit that I own a Surly Pacer and have owned a LHT to get me down the coast of California in the summer when my a Soma San Marcos build didn't work out. I am disappointed in Surly these days. The Racing Sucks is so close to Un-Racer and now they are making wool stripped shirts that totally resemble the ones Riv is making. I just read it in their blog here: http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/the_goods_that_are_soft Bruce just a little disappointed in Surly Smitham in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to
[RBW] Re: Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.
As the orchestrator of presales around here they always make me nervous because delays are inevitable for products that don't yet exist. And we feel so apologetic when they're late. We only presale things that have enormous upfront costs: unique MUSA things like the rain jacket and full size-runs for Sams/Cheviots . You are right that presales make the coulda-woulda-shouldas actually happen. The presales make large minimums possible, which usually means a better deal for the customer. And since we do the direct sales on these items, they're usually pretty great deals. If going through a retailer, the prices would likely be doubled. We had to presale the blue stripe, for example, because the fabric didn't exist and we had to order a large minimum for a custom dye lot. When we found the purple, we cleared out an existing discontinued fabric style. We couldn't reorder. So it was either bury the style or reorder a huge amount of new fabric. So here we are, thanks to the presale, sitting on almost a ton of this great blue stripe wool. You'll see blue stripe long sleeves, undies, and long johns in months to come. Maybe other things too. Blue stripe, head to toe. Thanks to the presales. That said, they're a headache because of inevitable production delays, holidays, storms. If you can afford the tshirts, skip the presale. If they'd never happen without it... kickstart them shirts! -Dave On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:38:47 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Several listers have asked about green ACW mugs...I've got some made now, there's two sizes available. www.bradclick.bigcartel.com The recent talk about the Rivendell wool stripe shirt reminded me I put a deposit on one as to not repeat my missing of the purple version. Generally I am not enticed by pre-order type sales of anything, but it seems recently that is THE modus operandi out there. Especially noticed in the bike industry. I was pretty shocked with the Appaloosa presale, specifically the give us a large chunk of change for a bike we will not tell you aboutaside from it'll be neat-o. But, I realize Rivendell makes great stuff, and doesn't miss the mark often (if at all?) so that goes a long way in buyer confidence. They apparently are successful since they fill the slots and sell the goods. I want to do tees for the ACW, though I've been concerned with how many and what sizes so maybe a pre-sale is the answer? That said, I'm not Rivendell who can show a picture of a headbadge and have people line up with wallets prized open. Do you think these pre-sales are a key to bringing cool US made goods to market that otherwise would just remain good ideas? Is it a can of worms to open up public opinion and influence because you'll never make everyone happy? T-shirts are silly, and not really part of the equation, but I AM curious about the pre-order phenomenon. For the record, I am eagerly awaiting the wooly stripy, and had an awesome experience with my Ocean Air Cycles Docena pre-order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
and the process for making steel, I believe its called the Grant-Bessemer Process [?] On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
Silly of me, its called the Petersen-Bessemer Process duh! On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: and the process for making steel, I believe its called the Grant-Bessemer Process [?] On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
Sounds like a perfect autumn ride in New England. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:59:45 AM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
Whoa Whoa Wait a minute. Don't associate us fine upstate NYers with those bean breaths in New England.. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like a perfect autumn ride in New England. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:59:45 AM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k- crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] SFR mixed terrain populaire this weekend - October 18
Bay Area Riv enthusiasts - is anybody partaking in the SF Randonneurs' mixed terrain populaire this Saturday? 103 km through Marin County...Headlands, Tiburon, up most of Tam, then back to SF...about 20% fire roads. Supposed to get a shot of rain this week, so the dirt will be mmmgood. Writeup here: http://bike.duque.net/el-paseito-mixto.htm - route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2928655 Never ridden much in the headlands, but Old RR Grade will be a trip into the wayback machine, only this time on a steel bike with 38s. Hope to see some folks out there! Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
There must be a covered bridge somewhere on that ride!!! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:04:09 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Whoa Whoa Wait a minute. Don't associate us fine upstate NYers with those bean breaths in New England.. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Sounds like a perfect autumn ride in New England. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:59:45 AM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k- crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k
Yep. Been looking forward to it. The dirt should be velcro perfecto after this rain. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:36:29 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: Anybody planing on riding this this Sat? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
Gotta respect Surly for their out-of-the-box way of doing it, as much as you gotta respect Riv for the same thing. My LHT was the stepping stone to a Sam Hillborne, and I know I'm not the only one. My LHT taught me that riding a steel 'road' bike in the dirt is fun, and the Sam confirmed it. All part of the same continuum. Now let me heartily plug the Surly wool offerings. Their short- and long-sleeved wool jerseys are awesome pieces of kit. Generous fit for the unracer, good zippers, great construction. Only moderately spendy, and worth every penny. On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:55:41 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote: OK, I'll admit that I own a Surly Pacer and have owned a LHT to get me down the coast of California in the summer when my a Soma San Marcos build didn't work out. I am disappointed in Surly these days. The Racing Sucks is so close to Un-Racer and now they are making wool stripped shirts that totally resemble the ones Riv is making. I just read it in their blog here: http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/the_goods_that_are_soft Bruce just a little disappointed in Surly Smitham in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford, Bridgestone, and Rawland - Chris King, Phil Wood, etc.
Hello again! The Waterford is still available. Price drop again to $1000 for bay area pick-up, or $1100 shipped CONUS. The Bridgestone has been claimed but the Rawland is still available. How about $400 + shipping for Frameset, headset, stem, and bar. Please feel free to offer any interesting trades (Looking for Paul Racers!), and ask any and all questions. Thank you again! -Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tubus Vega Evo Rack, BM 4D Toplight and Stainless Hardware Kits
Sold. On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:14:14 PM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote: I've been trying to sell this set-up locally but figured that I'd see anyone from the Bunch was interested: https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/4697201892.html One minor scuff but otherwise flawless. $90 shipped or $80 local pick-up. Let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped
Pictures would help. But if I understand what I read right, Head broke off bolt so what is left in the frame is post and locknut, so should just punch out and get a replacement bolt and nut. The seat clamp part that is part of the frame on Rivs is not threaded, one size captures a nut then bolt come in from the other side. My bet is the stainless steel gauled and you were never actually tightening the seat post as much as you though, so maybe no undersized seat post or oversize seat tube, bad bolt and nut. If bolt sheared off coming out, drilling and extractor are not going to do the job. If there is some of the head still there, not letting it pouch through, drill on the bolt with just oversize bit until you just kiss the frame, then it should pouch out. Hunter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?
With only one set of eyelets on the front fork (currently used by fenders), I was considering this rack from Soma http://store.somafab.com/sochelfrra.html On Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:20:34 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. What's your experience? 2. Do P-clamps slide down over time? 3. Where's the best place on the fork for clamping, or does it matter? I guess I could measure my Sam fork braze-ons and model it from there. I would probably have loads of 4 to 8 lbs. maximum. I am probably over-thinking this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped
Hunter - You are correct. Problem 2 has been solved by a simple tap out of the nut and bolt per previous suggestions. I did not realize it was just a bolt on the other side, I was under the impression there was some threads in the housing and the bolt would have to be extracted by drilling a hole or something. It was way more simple than I thought. Thankfully ;) Interesting thought on the tightening (or lack of). Now that I was able to get a replacement nut and bolt in there I'll monitor it and if there is any more slippage, if so I'll bring it to riv to apply some knurling on the seat post to add some friction and keep it from sliding. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Hunter Harr crazydogfa...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures would help. But if I understand what I read right, Head broke off bolt so what is left in the frame is post and locknut, so should just punch out and get a replacement bolt and nut. The seat clamp part that is part of the frame on Rivs is not threaded, one size captures a nut then bolt come in from the other side. My bet is the stainless steel gauled and you were never actually tightening the seat post as much as you though, so maybe no undersized seat post or oversize seat tube, bad bolt and nut. If bolt sheared off coming out, drilling and extractor are not going to do the job. If there is some of the head still there, not letting it pouch through, drill on the bolt with just oversize bit until you just kiss the frame, then it should pouch out. Hunter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TvKHFIdcNzY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped
Just a thought, Dave - but are you using a hanger-stop (eg Nitto) that attaches to the seatpost bolt? And, if so- was it perhaps getting lodged between the ears of the lug-slot and causing less-than-100% clampage? Something to watch out for! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 10/15/14, David Stein davecst...@gmail.com wrote: Hunter - You are correct. Problem 2 has been solved by a simple tap out of the nut and bolt per previous suggestions. I did not realize it was just a bolt on the other side, I was under the impression there was some threads in the housing and the bolt would have to be extracted by drilling a hole or something. It was way more simple than I thought. Thankfully ;) Interesting thought on the tightening (or lack of). Now that I was able to get a replacement nut and bolt in there I'll monitor it and if there is any more slippage, if so I'll bring it to riv to apply some knurling on the seat post to add some friction and keep it from sliding. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Hunter Harr crazydogfa...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures would help. But if I understand what I read right, Head broke off bolt so what is left in the frame is post and locknut, so should just punch out and get a replacement bolt and nut. The seat clamp part that is part of the frame on Rivs is not threaded, one size captures a nut then bolt come in from the other side. My bet is the stainless steel gauled and you were never actually tightening the seat post as much as you though, so maybe no undersized seat post or oversize seat tube, bad bolt and nut. If bolt sheared off coming out, drilling and extractor are not going to do the job. If there is some of the head still there, not letting it pouch through, drill on the bolt with just oversize bit until you just kiss the frame, then it should pouch out. Hunter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TvKHFIdcNzY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped
Do you mean the hanger stop for the brakes? Yes, but it was pretty well centered, though I may not understand what you're asking. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought, Dave - but are you using a hanger-stop (eg Nitto) that attaches to the seatpost bolt? And, if so- was it perhaps getting lodged between the ears of the lug-slot and causing less-than-100% clampage? Something to watch out for! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 10/15/14, David Stein davecst...@gmail.com wrote: Hunter - You are correct. Problem 2 has been solved by a simple tap out of the nut and bolt per previous suggestions. I did not realize it was just a bolt on the other side, I was under the impression there was some threads in the housing and the bolt would have to be extracted by drilling a hole or something. It was way more simple than I thought. Thankfully ;) Interesting thought on the tightening (or lack of). Now that I was able to get a replacement nut and bolt in there I'll monitor it and if there is any more slippage, if so I'll bring it to riv to apply some knurling on the seat post to add some friction and keep it from sliding. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Hunter Harr crazydogfa...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures would help. But if I understand what I read right, Head broke off bolt so what is left in the frame is post and locknut, so should just punch out and get a replacement bolt and nut. The seat clamp part that is part of the frame on Rivs is not threaded, one size captures a nut then bolt come in from the other side. My bet is the stainless steel gauled and you were never actually tightening the seat post as much as you though, so maybe no undersized seat post or oversize seat tube, bad bolt and nut. If bolt sheared off coming out, drilling and extractor are not going to do the job. If there is some of the head still there, not letting it pouch through, drill on the bolt with just oversize bit until you just kiss the frame, then it should pouch out. Hunter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TvKHFIdcNzY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TvKHFIdcNzY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k
Looks fun, but I'll be up in Oregon visiting my daughter and riding a permanent. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy Blog: campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:36 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Anybody planing on riding this this Sat? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and headed down from our house to the Pikes Peak Highway turn-off to climb back up again. Wow! Did it feel good to be pedaling my way up the highway. Early on after the toll booth I switched to my low gear of 32-22 on the flip-flop side. The ride to Crystal Reservoir is steady climbing but relatively easy as it's in the woods, protected mostly from the wind, and still at the altitudes I ride frequently (8-10,000 feet). Things got interesting a bit after the halfway point (9.5 miles). The road was much more exposed to the wind, and it was steady at 30 mph with gusts to 40. The grade of the road was such that I may have been able to ride it sitting down without wind, but it would have been pushing it. Of course, standing make me a huge wall for the wind to blow against, trying heartily to send to backwards downhill. The next three miles to Glen Cove were very challenging. I stopped about ever half mile or so for a mini-breather, kicking into high-altitude climbing mode 3-4 miles before I figured I would. There was brief respite from the wind on occasional short sections of switchbacks, and I made it up these with relative ease, so perhaps on a less windy day that estimate would hold. I steadily made it to Glen Cove, 7 miles shy the summit. Of course those seven are likely doubly harder than the previous 12.5. Being near treeline, there was nothing to stop the wind, and the direction of the highway was mostly into its teeth. I tried standing pedaling and was able to inch my way forward. That, and me being wimpy, all combined to make the decision to turn around an easy one. The descent. Sublime. Wow. Smooth, curved flowing road. Amazing! Then I caught up with a vehicle and had to slow way, way down. On a straight-away I was able to pass, and did this several times. Passed bike tourists on the we drive you up, you bike down tour. The support van driver had cheered me on on the way up (in a good, didn't startle me way). The 4 mile section from the base of the PPH is a very familiar 4 miles of gentle climbing I usually do in 40-16t. Since I was already in that from the descent, I decided to stay in it and see how I did, to get a benchmark of if I was out of shape, or if the wind was a big factor. I had a headwind back, but rode it with ease. Hopefully that bodes well for the next time I give this a go, which I look forward to doing! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648378500158/ With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
It sounds like a wonderful and challenging ride Patrick. Nothing like a headwind on a climb, thats for sure. I envy you. I rode Ride the Rockies in 2004 and got to climb Rabbit Ears near Steamboat Springs, Independence Pass and Left Hand from Boulder to Estes Park. We missed out on Trail Ridge road because the road was snowed in the day we were supposed to ride it. As a Kansan I've always loved Colorado. I'm on the east coast now so the White Mountains of NH and Green Mountains of VT are close to me here in CT, and they are wonderful, but the Rockies are the mountains I love. And summiting a pass at those altitudes is amazing. I look forward to riding in Colorado again soon. When I'm there I'd love to take Homer up Pikes Peak with you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
That sounds and looks wonderful. You have given me another reason (as if I needed anymore) to get out to CO sometime soon. David Charlotte (flatland), NC On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:08:43 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and headed down from our house to the Pikes Peak Highway turn-off to climb back up again. Wow! Did it feel good to be pedaling my way up the highway. Early on after the toll booth I switched to my low gear of 32-22 on the flip-flop side. The ride to Crystal Reservoir is steady climbing but relatively easy as it’s in the woods, protected mostly from the wind, and still at the altitudes I ride frequently (8-10,000 feet). Things got interesting a bit after the halfway point (9.5 miles). The road was much more exposed to the wind, and it was steady at 30 mph with gusts to 40. The grade of the road was such that I may have been able to ride it sitting down without wind, but it would have been pushing it. Of course, standing make me a huge wall for the wind to blow against, trying heartily to send to backwards downhill. The next three miles to Glen Cove were very challenging. I stopped about ever half mile or so for a mini-breather, kicking into high-altitude climbing mode 3-4 miles before I figured I would. There was brief respite from the wind on occasional short sections of switchbacks, and I made it up these with relative ease, so perhaps on a less windy day that estimate would hold. I steadily made it to Glen Cove, 7 miles shy the summit. Of course those seven are likely doubly harder than the previous 12.5. Being near treeline, there was nothing to stop the wind, and the direction of the highway was mostly into its teeth. I tried standing pedaling and was able to inch my way forward. That, and me being wimpy, all combined to make the decision to turn around an easy one. The descent. Sublime. Wow. Smooth, curved flowing road. Amazing! Then I caught up with a vehicle and had to slow way, way down. On a straight-away I was able to pass, and did this several times. Passed bike tourists on the “we drive you up, you bike down” tour. The support van driver had cheered me on on the way up (in a good, didn’t startle me way). The 4 mile section from the base of the PPH is a very familiar 4 miles of gentle climbing I usually do in 40-16t. Since I was already in that from the descent, I decided to stay in it and see how I did, to get a benchmark of if I was out of shape, or if the wind was a big factor. I had a headwind back, but rode it with ease. Hopefully that bodes well for the next time I give this a go, which I look forward to doing! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648378500158/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Sounds great, Tim and Dave. Let me know and hopefully the ride elves will all come together. Just be forewarned that my brain requires special preparation on your part to get you as scent-free as possible. I was really looking forward to trying this because it is paved and I don't ride much paved, and the cars have a speed limit of 30 mph. They gave me a wide berth, save one red-neck truck. The rhythm of a road ride is vastly different from gravel and quadruply from single-track. The only brain issue I had was with the smell of burning brakes from the numb-nuts who were descending without using low gear. I can't tell how big a factor that was, as it began to happen at the same time and the headwinds picking up. Fortunately the winds carried them away quickly. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
I enjoyed reading your ride report and viewing your photos. You reports are inspiring me to want to give this Rando thing a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
I always love reading your reflections, introspections, and reports as well as your photos. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:59:45 AM UTC-6, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
My hat's off to all of you who attempt this sort of thing. As I mentioned in a previous post, we visited my son and his family in Colo Springs at the end of September and drove up Pike's Peak. When we got to the top I walked around feeling light headed and my wife complained of chest pressure from the altitude. 'Course we haven't lived our lives at the 6,000 or so feet of Springs so we weren't even used to the minimal altitude at the base and we're both well over 60, but still it seems like an amazing feat to me to climb those mountain passes. Wait until Spring and keep it up! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:54:19 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Sounds great, Tim and Dave. Let me know and hopefully the ride elves will all come together. Just be forewarned that my brain requires special preparation on your part to get you as scent-free as possible. I was really looking forward to trying this because it is paved and I don't ride much paved, and the cars have a speed limit of 30 mph. They gave me a wide berth, save one red-neck truck. The rhythm of a road ride is vastly different from gravel and quadruply from single-track. The only brain issue I had was with the smell of burning brakes from the numb-nuts who were descending without using low gear. I can't tell how big a factor that was, as it began to happen at the same time and the headwinds picking up. Fortunately the winds carried them away quickly. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
very nice photos. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:08:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and headed down from our house to the Pikes Peak Highway turn-off to climb back up again. Wow! Did it feel good to be pedaling my way up the highway. Early on after the toll booth I switched to my low gear of 32-22 on the flip-flop side. The ride to Crystal Reservoir is steady climbing but relatively easy as it’s in the woods, protected mostly from the wind, and still at the altitudes I ride frequently (8-10,000 feet). Things got interesting a bit after the halfway point (9.5 miles). The road was much more exposed to the wind, and it was steady at 30 mph with gusts to 40. The grade of the road was such that I may have been able to ride it sitting down without wind, but it would have been pushing it. Of course, standing make me a huge wall for the wind to blow against, trying heartily to send to backwards downhill. The next three miles to Glen Cove were very challenging. I stopped about ever half mile or so for a mini-breather, kicking into high-altitude climbing mode 3-4 miles before I figured I would. There was brief respite from the wind on occasional short sections of switchbacks, and I made it up these with relative ease, so perhaps on a less windy day that estimate would hold. I steadily made it to Glen Cove, 7 miles shy the summit. Of course those seven are likely doubly harder than the previous 12.5. Being near treeline, there was nothing to stop the wind, and the direction of the highway was mostly into its teeth. I tried standing pedaling and was able to inch my way forward. That, and me being wimpy, all combined to make the decision to turn around an easy one. The descent. Sublime. Wow. Smooth, curved flowing road. Amazing! Then I caught up with a vehicle and had to slow way, way down. On a straight-away I was able to pass, and did this several times. Passed bike tourists on the “we drive you up, you bike down” tour. The support van driver had cheered me on on the way up (in a good, didn’t startle me way). The 4 mile section from the base of the PPH is a very familiar 4 miles of gentle climbing I usually do in 40-16t. Since I was already in that from the descent, I decided to stay in it and see how I did, to get a benchmark of if I was out of shape, or if the wind was a big factor. I had a headwind back, but rode it with ease. Hopefully that bodes well for the next time I give this a go, which I look forward to doing! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648378500158/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
You're right, George. Hypoxia is a challenge to avoid when exerting one's self at altitude. Whenever I'm running or biking a steep climb, I pray the rosary silently in my head. If I lose my place, I know I need to exert myself less. I back off a wee bit and then the meditation of the rosary flows smoothly in the background as I ride. I hadn't thought through that aspect fully of not having gears, and needing to back off yet facing a stiff headwind. Next time I'll take the Hunqapillar, which of course will allow me to shift down to stay seated/aerodynamic into headwinds. Next time may come sooner than spring -- the highway (at least lower portions of it) is open year round. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: XL Blue Flannel Tan HAR Bags
$80 Flannel. Washed once and tried on but didn’t like the size. $120 HAR Bags. Lightly used (comes with 2 Irish straps). + actual shipping costs. Paypal preferred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Good story, great ride, and all the more so since it was done single speed (or at least, non-handlebar-mount-gear-switcher). Waaay back about 1972, when I used to ride a lot further and faster as a 16-17 year old than I do now as a disappointed 59-year-old, I'd be overtaken by the Jesus prayer in time to my cadence -- no kidding. BTW: Back when (~1999) I commuted 10 miles each way on a mid '60s Bottechia fixie with moustache bars, I found I could get very low and aero; more so, in fact, than with drop bars. (I never could get M bars as comfortable as I desired, though, so I've long since abandoned them.) On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: You're right, George. Hypoxia is a challenge to avoid when exerting one's self at altitude. Whenever I'm running or biking a steep climb, I pray the rosary silently in my head. If I lose my place, I know I need to exert myself less. I back off a wee bit and then the meditation of the rosary flows smoothly in the background as I ride. I hadn't thought through that aspect fully of not having gears, and needing to back off yet facing a stiff headwind. Next time I'll take the Hunqapillar, which of course will allow me to shift down to stay seated/aerodynamic into headwinds. Next time may come sooner than spring -- the highway (at least lower portions of it) is open year round. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
I gave this rando thing a try 4 years ago and haven't stopped since. I would never try to talk anyone into doing this sport but I would tell anyone that if you love to ride a bike, enjoy some of the best scenery offered to cyclists and relish a challenge - Randonneuring offers it all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.
I gave this rando thing a try 4 years ago and haven't stopped since. I would never try to talk anyone into doing this sport but I would tell anyone that if you love to ride a bike, enjoy some of the best scenery offered to cyclists and relish a challenge - Randonneuring offers it all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Aye. I use the Jesus prayer on the climbs that I know don't push my capacity (I suspect this one will always push my capacity!). Both are beautiful ways to enter contemplative bliss when climbing and simply find yourself miles further on your way. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
I wonder why they had to go with the oddball seat tube size? On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:16 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? I think the new frame has nice lines, but I'm not liking the aesthetic of curved seat stays. That's just my own thing, I do hope RBW sells all they can make. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
Well I never said that Rivendell invented that stuff, it looks so familiar to what Riv is doing. I guess it's just a matter of taste and I now prefer the Riv over the Surly. I wouldn't say that the Police or The Rolling Stones invented music, drums or reggae music but I prefer them over anything that sounds like them on the radio like Bruno Mars! After many, many bikes I pulled the trigger on a Riv Sam Hillborne and it's the best fitting/riding bike I've owned. Now my Surly Pacer hangs in the garage waiting for a local business trip so I can stuff it in the trunk of my car while my Riv's stand in the garage asking me where do you want to go today? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:01:19 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Silly of me, its called the Petersen-Bessemer Process duh! On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: and the process for making steel, I believe its called the Grant-Bessemer Process On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike company. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Well Done Patrick! You are the MAN! You will appreciate it the next time without wind and snow. It will be more manageable.That wind flowing over the snow had to have been cold. Maybe next time I'll join you.:) Jon On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:08:43 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and headed down from our house to the Pikes Peak Highway turn-off to climb back up again. Wow! Did it feel good to be pedaling my way up the highway. Early on after the toll booth I switched to my low gear of 32-22 on the flip-flop side. The ride to Crystal Reservoir is steady climbing but relatively easy as it’s in the woods, protected mostly from the wind, and still at the altitudes I ride frequently (8-10,000 feet). Things got interesting a bit after the halfway point (9.5 miles). The road was much more exposed to the wind, and it was steady at 30 mph with gusts to 40. The grade of the road was such that I may have been able to ride it sitting down without wind, but it would have been pushing it. Of course, standing make me a huge wall for the wind to blow against, trying heartily to send to backwards downhill. The next three miles to Glen Cove were very challenging. I stopped about ever half mile or so for a mini-breather, kicking into high-altitude climbing mode 3-4 miles before I figured I would. There was brief respite from the wind on occasional short sections of switchbacks, and I made it up these with relative ease, so perhaps on a less windy day that estimate would hold. I steadily made it to Glen Cove, 7 miles shy the summit. Of course those seven are likely doubly harder than the previous 12.5. Being near treeline, there was nothing to stop the wind, and the direction of the highway was mostly into its teeth. I tried standing pedaling and was able to inch my way forward. That, and me being wimpy, all combined to make the decision to turn around an easy one. The descent. Sublime. Wow. Smooth, curved flowing road. Amazing! Then I caught up with a vehicle and had to slow way, way down. On a straight-away I was able to pass, and did this several times. Passed bike tourists on the “we drive you up, you bike down” tour. The support van driver had cheered me on on the way up (in a good, didn’t startle me way). The 4 mile section from the base of the PPH is a very familiar 4 miles of gentle climbing I usually do in 40-16t. Since I was already in that from the descent, I decided to stay in it and see how I did, to get a benchmark of if I was out of shape, or if the wind was a big factor. I had a headwind back, but rode it with ease. Hopefully that bodes well for the next time I give this a go, which I look forward to doing! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648378500158/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Ha! We'll see, Jon. The wilds love to throw extra fun our way, in many forms. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
That is so so kewl. I was in Colorado Springs and went to ride up and when I got to the toll booth they said we couldn't ride up. Great to see they changed the rules... this may be worth the 12 hour drive to go ride it. Thanks for the ride report Kelly On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:08:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and headed down from our house to the Pikes Peak Highway turn-off to climb back up again. Wow! Did it feel good to be pedaling my way up the highway. Early on after the toll booth I switched to my low gear of 32-22 on the flip-flop side. The ride to Crystal Reservoir is steady climbing but relatively easy as it’s in the woods, protected mostly from the wind, and still at the altitudes I ride frequently (8-10,000 feet). Things got interesting a bit after the halfway point (9.5 miles). The road was much more exposed to the wind, and it was steady at 30 mph with gusts to 40. The grade of the road was such that I may have been able to ride it sitting down without wind, but it would have been pushing it. Of course, standing make me a huge wall for the wind to blow against, trying heartily to send to backwards downhill. The next three miles to Glen Cove were very challenging. I stopped about ever half mile or so for a mini-breather, kicking into high-altitude climbing mode 3-4 miles before I figured I would. There was brief respite from the wind on occasional short sections of switchbacks, and I made it up these with relative ease, so perhaps on a less windy day that estimate would hold. I steadily made it to Glen Cove, 7 miles shy the summit. Of course those seven are likely doubly harder than the previous 12.5. Being near treeline, there was nothing to stop the wind, and the direction of the highway was mostly into its teeth. I tried standing pedaling and was able to inch my way forward. That, and me being wimpy, all combined to make the decision to turn around an easy one. The descent. Sublime. Wow. Smooth, curved flowing road. Amazing! Then I caught up with a vehicle and had to slow way, way down. On a straight-away I was able to pass, and did this several times. Passed bike tourists on the “we drive you up, you bike down” tour. The support van driver had cheered me on on the way up (in a good, didn’t startle me way). The 4 mile section from the base of the PPH is a very familiar 4 miles of gentle climbing I usually do in 40-16t. Since I was already in that from the descent, I decided to stay in it and see how I did, to get a benchmark of if I was out of shape, or if the wind was a big factor. I had a headwind back, but rode it with ease. Hopefully that bodes well for the next time I give this a go, which I look forward to doing! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648378500158/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt
Ha ha ha ... Patrick referred to himself as wimpy ... Ha ha ha (I don't think so) Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Exciting! I hope this is a super-seller for them! I like all three of those colors. Especially the bile green. Hmmm, bile... Fork crown looks GREAT and curve on the blades is nice. And wow, that tire clearance... I absolutely love how it can take a fat tire! Strange about the seat tube size. Wonder if that has something to do with the seat lug? I presume the seat stay sockets let it get built faster? Lack of head tube lugs are a bummer, especially as those are the ones most visible. So far I prefer 430 stays to 450, so imagine even longer wouldn't work that great for me. I really like sitting on top of the tire when climbing. Around town or on roads doesn't really matter much. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:34 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? I think the new frame has nice lines, but I'm not liking the aesthetic of curved seat stays. That's just my own thing, I do hope RBW sells all they can make. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Waterford, Bridgestone, and Rawland - Chris King, Phil Wood, etc.
Hi Chris: Is the Rawland still around? I'm in SF if it is (and I guess I will still be here if it isn't.) Cheers, Patrick On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Christopher Miller Rosales cmillerrosa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again! The Waterford is still available. Price drop again to $1000 for bay area pick-up, or $1100 shipped CONUS. The Bridgestone has been claimed but the Rawland is still available. How about $400 + shipping for Frameset, headset, stem, and bar. Please feel free to offer any interesting trades (Looking for Paul Racers!), and ask any and all questions. Thank you again! -Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k
That looks like a great ride. I might do the Permanent some time. If I went on Saturday, on the Quickbeam, I'd have to shave off the Tiburon loop. I don't think there's 60 good miles in my legs this week. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
