date:20141112

I got saddles, Bubba.  Brooks, Berthoud, Rivet, Selle An-Atomica.  Numerous 
colors and finishes, some NOS, some used but excellent.  Ping if interested.  
SAT version:  I’m (as to saddles) as you are (as to tires)!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:33 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

Oh, snap, and what am I missing for a build kit..

I have the full wheelset, I have bar/stem/brakelevers.  I have brakes, front 
and rear ders.  I have shifters, crankset BB pedals.  I have a couple Nitto 
racks, a whole grip of sackville bags.  I even have a good rainbow stack of 
several shades of Newbaums.

I think I might need a saddle, but aside from that, I'm totally ready.  I could 
have her on the road this weekend.  GAH!

Gabe, I'm reaching out.  Expect a message.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:31:07 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps on 
this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis.
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

Everyone goes home happy!

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Oh, snap, and what am I missing for a build kit..
>
> I have the full wheelset, I have bar/stem/brakelevers.  I have brakes,
> front and rear ders.  I have shifters, crankset BB pedals.  I have a couple
> Nitto racks, a whole grip of sackville bags.  I even have a good rainbow
> stack of several shades of Newbaums.
>
> I think I might need a saddle, but aside from that, I'm totally ready.  I
> could have her on the road this weekend.  GAH!
>
> Gabe, I'm reaching out.  Expect a message.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:31:07 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps
>> on this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis.
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

Oh, snap, and what am I missing for a build kit..

I have the full wheelset, I have bar/stem/brakelevers.  I have brakes, 
front and rear ders.  I have shifters, crankset BB pedals.  I have a couple 
Nitto racks, a whole grip of sackville bags.  I even have a good rainbow 
stack of several shades of Newbaums.  

I think I might need a saddle, but aside from that, I'm totally ready.  I 
could have her on the road this weekend.  GAH!

Gabe, I'm reaching out.  Expect a message.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:31:07 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps 
> on this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis. 

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[RBW] FS/WTT: 58cm SimpleOne

2014-11-12 Thread justinaugust

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/justinaugust/15776182621/

$750. 8/10 paint. 

Trade for RivenMixte or other good quality 650b mixte. 
Or an Ocean Air Rambler. 

-Justin, Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

Actually the Flyer S is just became available as there was a change of mind. 
Let me know if you are interested in that. 

Dan



> On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:50 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA  wrote:
> 
> Interest expressed for 786 bag and Flyer S saddle.
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:52:04 PM UTC-8, danmc wrote:
>> Hurt my knee so ended up going through lots of boxes instead of riding last 
>> weekend.
>> 
>> Tried to keep the list as readable as possible. It is a fairly long and not 
>> all applicable to this group but I'll start here.
>> 
>> Pictures of most items are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5tFS59
>> 
>> Please email off list to djmcnamara at gmail dot com with any interest or 
>> questions
>> 
>> PayPal personal is best. If you want to use regular PayPal add 3% to cover 
>> the PP fee. 
>> 
>> Thanks for looking
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nitto R Water Bottle Cages
>> Perfect shape pair - $65 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro CR720 Cantis  Black
>> Take offs. Full set Never used - $35 shipped
>> 
>> Dia-Compe non-aero levers
>> Great shape. $35 shipped
>> 
>> Hunter Nugz
>> Barrel adjusters for Paul canti straddle - $25 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Nexus 7-speed IGH with coaster brake 650B Dyad
>> Hands On Wheels built. Twist shift with cable Very lite use - $225 shipped
>> 
>> Velo Orange Leather Mud Flaps Brown
>> Never mounted. Pair $30 shipped
>> 
>> Velo Orange Retro type II cages
>> Never used pair - $30 shipped
>> 
>> FSA Metropolis single crankset 45T
>> 170 crank. New - $50 shipped
>> 
>> Sugino Impel crankset 42/32/22T
>> 175 crank. New - $50 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Ultegra RD-6600 
>> Good Shape. $30 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Ultegra FD-6500
>> Good shape $25 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano 105 Triple 10-Speed FD-5603
>> New in box. $45 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro RX 4.1 reverse brake levers
>> Good shape. $35 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro RRL TRP Levers - Grey with Black Hoods
>> Never used. $50 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano 8/9 speed bar-cons
>> Good shape. Scrape on right cover - $40 shipped
>> 
>> Paul Thumbies Black Shimano mount 22.2
>> Package opened never mounted. $50 shipped
>> 
>> Rivet Pearl Saddle cro-mo rails Natural 
>> Nice saddle. Very light use - $90 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Flyer Special Honey
>> Nice shape. $60 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks B17 Honey
>> New in box - $85 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Flyer S Honey
>> Good shape. $55 shipped
>> 
>> Grand Bois Elysées Porteur Bars
>> Good shape. $45 shipped
>> 
>> Viva bar tape medium dark blue
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Toshi bar tape red
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Viva bar tape medium light blue
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Selle An-Atomica Leather Bar Tape Black
>> Sealed package Includes gel pads. $40 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Plump grips Honey
>> Perfect shape - $45 shipped
>> 
>> Cardiff Julian leather grips - black
>> New in package - $25 shipped
>> 
>> Cycle Pro Cork Grips
>> New in package - $20 shipped
>> 
>> Nitto bar end plugs Blue
>> perfect shape - $18 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 786 Saddle Bag - grey
>> Good shape. No holes or rips - $60 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 192 Bar Bag - Grey
>> Good shape. All mounts included - $120 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 604 Rear Bag - Grey
>> New. Complete. Like a trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 704 Rear Bag - Grey
>> New. Complete. Like a small trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>> 
>> Carradice Barney green with Bagman II support
>> Good shape - $90
>> 
>> Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700 x 35c 3 tires
>> Wire bead. RaceGuard,Speedgrip - $60 shipped for all 3
>> 
>> Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin 650B x 41
>> Folding bead. New in package. Original version - $30 shipped
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.





> On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:50 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA  wrote:
> 
> Interest expressed for 786 bag and Flyer S saddle.
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:52:04 PM UTC-8, danmc wrote:
>> Hurt my knee so ended up going through lots of boxes instead of riding last 
>> weekend.
>> 
>> Tried to keep the list as readable as possible. It is a fairly long and not 
>> all applicable to this group but I'll start here.
>> 
>> Pictures of most items are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5tFS59
>> 
>> Please email off list to djmcnamara at gmail dot com with any interest or 
>> questions
>> 
>> PayPal personal is best. If you want to use regular PayPal add 3% to cover 
>> the PP fee. 
>> 
>> Thanks for looking
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nitto R Water Bottle Cages
>> Perfect shape pair - $65 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro CR720 Cantis  Black
>> Take offs. Full set Never used - $35 shipped
>> 
>> Dia-Compe non-aero levers
>> Great shape. $35 shipped
>> 
>> Hunter Nugz
>> Barrel adjusters for Paul canti straddle - $25 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Nexus 7-speed IGH with coaster brake 650B Dyad
>> Hands On Wheels built. Twist shift with cable Very lite use - $225 shipped
>> 
>> Velo Orange Leather Mud Flaps Brown
>> Never mounted. Pair $30 shipped
>> 
>> Velo Orange Retro type II cages
>> Never used pair - $30 shipped
>> 
>> FSA Metropolis single crankset 45T
>> 170 crank. New - $50 shipped
>> 
>> Sugino Impel crankset 42/32/22T
>> 175 crank. New - $50 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Ultegra RD-6600 
>> Good Shape. $30 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano Ultegra FD-6500
>> Good shape $25 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano 105 Triple 10-Speed FD-5603
>> New in box. $45 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro RX 4.1 reverse brake levers
>> Good shape. $35 shipped
>> 
>> Tektro RRL TRP Levers - Grey with Black Hoods
>> Never used. $50 shipped
>> 
>> Shimano 8/9 speed bar-cons
>> Good shape. Scrape on right cover - $40 shipped
>> 
>> Paul Thumbies Black Shimano mount 22.2
>> Package opened never mounted. $50 shipped
>> 
>> Rivet Pearl Saddle cro-mo rails Natural 
>> Nice saddle. Very light use - $90 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Flyer Special Honey
>> Nice shape. $60 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks B17 Honey
>> New in box - $85 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Flyer S Honey
>> Good shape. $55 shipped
>> 
>> Grand Bois Elysées Porteur Bars
>> Good shape. $45 shipped
>> 
>> Viva bar tape medium dark blue
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Toshi bar tape red
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Viva bar tape medium light blue
>> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>> 
>> Selle An-Atomica Leather Bar Tape Black
>> Sealed package Includes gel pads. $40 shipped
>> 
>> Brooks Plump grips Honey
>> Perfect shape - $45 shipped
>> 
>> Cardiff Julian leather grips - black
>> New in package - $25 shipped
>> 
>> Cycle Pro Cork Grips
>> New in package - $20 shipped
>> 
>> Nitto bar end plugs Blue
>> perfect shape - $18 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 786 Saddle Bag - grey
>> Good shape. No holes or rips - $60 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 192 Bar Bag - Grey
>> Good shape. All mounts included - $120 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 604 Rear Bag - Grey
>> New. Complete. Like a trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>> 
>> Berthoud 704 Rear Bag - Grey
>> New. Complete. Like a small trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>> 
>> Carradice Barney green with Bagman II support
>> Good shape - $90
>> 
>> Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700 x 35c 3 tires
>> Wire bead. RaceGuard,Speedgrip - $60 shipped for all 3
>> 
>> Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin 650B x 41
>> Folding bead. New in package. Original version - $30 shipped
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[RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

2014-11-12 Thread Aaron Young

hey Gang,

Anyone have a BOSCO bullmoose they want to sell?  Please contact me of
list.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA

Interest expressed for 786 bag and Flyer S saddle.


On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:52:04 PM UTC-8, danmc wrote:
>
> Hurt my knee so ended up going through lots of boxes instead of riding 
> last weekend.
>
> Tried to keep the list as readable as possible. It is a fairly long and 
> not all applicable to this group but I'll start here.
>
> Pictures of most items are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5tFS59
>
> Please email off list to djmcnamara at gmail dot com with any interest or 
> questions
>
> PayPal personal is best. If you want to use regular PayPal add 3% to cover 
> the PP fee. 
>
> Thanks for looking
>
> 
>
>
> Nitto R Water Bottle Cages
> Perfect shape pair - $65 shipped
>
> Tektro CR720 Cantis  Black
> Take offs. Full set Never used - $35 shipped
>
> Dia-Compe non-aero levers
> Great shape. $35 shipped
>
> Hunter Nugz
> Barrel adjusters for Paul canti straddle - $25 shipped
>
> Shimano Nexus 7-speed IGH with coaster brake 650B Dyad
> Hands On Wheels built. Twist shift with cable Very lite use - $225 shipped
>
> Velo Orange Leather Mud Flaps Brown
> Never mounted. Pair $30 shipped
>
> Velo Orange Retro type II cages
> Never used pair - $30 shipped
>
> FSA Metropolis single crankset 45T
> 170 crank. New - $50 shipped
>
> Sugino Impel crankset 42/32/22T
> 175 crank. New - $50 shipped
>
> Shimano Ultegra RD-6600 
> Good Shape. $30 shipped
>
> Shimano Ultegra FD-6500
> Good shape $25 shipped
>
> Shimano 105 Triple 10-Speed FD-5603
> New in box. $45 shipped
>
> Tektro RX 4.1 reverse brake levers
> Good shape. $35 shipped
>
> Tektro RRL TRP Levers - Grey with Black Hoods
> Never used. $50 shipped
>
> Shimano 8/9 speed bar-cons
> Good shape. Scrape on right cover - $40 shipped
>
> Paul Thumbies Black Shimano mount 22.2
> Package opened never mounted. $50 shipped
>
> Rivet Pearl Saddle cro-mo rails Natural 
> Nice saddle. Very light use - $90 shipped
>
> Brooks Flyer Special Honey
> Nice shape. $60 shipped
>
> Brooks B17 Honey
> New in box - $85 shipped
>
> Brooks Flyer S Honey
> Good shape. $55 shipped
>
> Grand Bois Elysées Porteur Bars
> Good shape. $45 shipped
>
> Viva bar tape medium dark blue
> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>
> Toshi bar tape red
> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>
> Viva bar tape medium light blue
> Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped
>
> Selle An-Atomica Leather Bar Tape Black
> Sealed package Includes gel pads. $40 shipped
>
> Brooks Plump grips Honey
> Perfect shape - $45 shipped
>
> Cardiff Julian leather grips - black
> New in package - $25 shipped
>
> Cycle Pro Cork Grips
> New in package - $20 shipped
>
> Nitto bar end plugs Blue
> perfect shape - $18 shipped
>
> Berthoud 786 Saddle Bag - grey
> Good shape. No holes or rips - $60 shipped
>
> Berthoud 192 Bar Bag - Grey
> Good shape. All mounts included - $120 shipped
>
> Berthoud 604 Rear Bag - Grey
> New. Complete. Like a trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>
> Berthoud 704 Rear Bag - Grey
> New. Complete. Like a small trunk for your bike - $175 shipped
>
> Carradice Barney green with Bagman II support
> Good shape - $90
>
> Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700 x 35c 3 tires
> Wire bead. RaceGuard,Speedgrip - $60 shipped for all 3
>
> Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin 650B x 41
> Folding bead. New in package. Original version - $30 shipped
>
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack - Used

2014-11-12 Thread Ryan

I made a mistake in my original posting.  It's actually a medium.  Pictures 
now include "dimensions."

Barely used Nitto Medium Rear Rack:  $110

Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4755152183.html

Pick-up locally in Fairfax, CA or San Francisco.  Cash.

Or I could ship it and you pay shipping (USPS).  Paypal.

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

2014-11-12 Thread Goshen Peter

that paint has a lot of stories to tell, I would leave it as is, wish it
fit me

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Manuel Acosta <
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps
> on this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham

Bill,

Thanks for the suggestion,  I have $320 ear marked for other parts namely
accessories for the wife's Betty, my Atlantis & AHH.

By all means I encourage you to take on the experiment as I'm sure a lot of
folks would appreciate the data.

The Irony to this thread is at the time I posed the question I only had the
650b AAH, it was doing duty as a fitness, off road and tour bike. Since, I
built up my 56 cm 26" Atlantis (Ol' Willy) as my off road tour bike the
question is not as urgent though still relevant.

As an experiment I do plan on acquiring the new Soma Cazadero' in 650b,
maybe put Homer back in service as a lightweight off road S240 rig?

-Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Nov 12, 2014 7:30 AM, "Bill Lindsay"  wrote:

> Hugh
>
> It's a $320 experiment, but it would be a really cool experiment.  You
> could buy a set of Soma Grand Randonneur tires in both the light and fast
> (green label) version and the stout and rugged (blue label) version.  Ride
> them both on the road and see if you hate the rugged Blue Label version.
> Ride them both on your trails and see if the Blue Labels hold up in the
> conditions in which your Hetres got sliced.  Let us know how it worked
> out.  Jan-types would predict the green labels are a lot faster and have
> few enough flats that it's worth it.  Others might say they both ride fine,
> and the extra stoutness is worth it.
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:56:43 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hey RBW riders, curious what you all think is the best  650b & 700c tire
>> for touring? Is it even possible to have a plush ride with decent flat
>> resistance?
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, Ca
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

2014-11-12 Thread Manuel Acosta

solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps on 
this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis. 

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

Total beausage patina!

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:51 PM, oldmangabe  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> For sale is my 2005 or 2006 Rivendell Atlantis 58cm frame and fork. It is
> a great frame and I have made a lot of memories with it, but after about
> nine or so years of trying to convince myself it fits, I've finally
> realized it's just too small. I am the original owner. The bike was ridden
> in and around Northern California on and off road since I bought it and the
> paint is representative of this. There are quite a number of paint dings
> and scrapes with the most significant being shown in the images, but the
> damage is confined to the paint and is not affecting the tubes. The frame
> was never crashed, and is structurally sound and in alignment.
>
>
>
> Images can be found HERE
> 
>
>
>
> Geometry and specs HERE
> 
>
>
>
> I am located in SF. A local sale would be preferred since nobody really
> likes dealing with S&H, but I will ship. Contact me off list if interested.
>
>
>
> I am asking $1000 for the frame/fork/Ultegra headset + S&H.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Gabe
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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

Patrick,

Great photo's, love that head tube on the Hunq.  I'm bracing for the cold 
but nothing like what you deal w/ on a regular basis.  Keep sharing these 
great photo's and stories!

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

Thanks for the kind words guys, it was a very good day. Three of my friends 
on this ride (Wes, Joe and Al) have been or still are serving, to them and 
everyone else who served I'm very thankful as well.

Erl, we will have to work out a time soon.  I know I'm going to want to get 
the Bombadil out on the trail again soon!

Tony


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[RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

2014-11-12 Thread oldmangabe

 

Hi everyone,

 

For sale is my 2005 or 2006 Rivendell Atlantis 58cm frame and fork. It is a 
great frame and I have made a lot of memories with it, but after about nine 
or so years of trying to convince myself it fits, I’ve finally realized 
it’s just too small. I am the original owner. The bike was ridden in and 
around Northern California on and off road since I bought it and the paint 
is representative of this. There are quite a number of paint dings and 
scrapes with the most significant being shown in the images, but the damage 
is confined to the paint and is not affecting the tubes. The frame was 
never crashed, and is structurally sound and in alignment.

 

Images can be found HERE 


 

Geometry and specs HERE 


 

I am located in SF. A local sale would be preferred since nobody really 
likes dealing with S&H, but I will ship. Contact me off list if interested. 

 

I am asking $1000 for the frame/fork/Ultegra headset + S&H. 

 

Best,

Gabe

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[RBW] Re: Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

Yes, thank you, Tony, and all who serve, for your service and sacrifice.

With abandon,
Patrick

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RE: [RBW] Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

+1 on the write-up, the bike, and especially for your service, Tony.

That build does my old frameset proud!

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Subject: [RBW] Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

Tony,
A great write -up and terrific photos.  You truly had perfect weather for your 
ride.  I love how the Bombadil looks and I assume it was comfortable for the 
entire trip.  I am sorry I had to work as it would have been fun to join you.  
I look forward to seeing the Bombadil in person and trying to keep up with you. 
 I enjoyed the anecdote about the cross country runner; whenever that happens 
to me I figure that I am giving the runner a good story tell.
Erl
PS: a belated thanks for your service.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread jeffrey kane

'ol Lance raced those seven Le Tours and only had one flat that I can 
remember ... flats, drywall screws, radial belt wires and nearly invisible 
shards of glass all live together in a world graced or cursed by luck, if 
you ask me ... but then again, I don't know squat about goatheads from 
riding in NYC, thats for sure.

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:00:38 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I think tire savers make a difference, no matter what width the tire. 
> Also, tubed or tubeless, as long as you have 50 psi in your tires, consider 
> 2 oz of Stan's. As I declaimed ad nauseam 18 months ago, the Parigi Roubaix 
> got goathead flats every 2-5 miles. After Stan's, none - well, one only, 
> before I re-installed the tire savers. With both systems, none.
>
> Patrick Moore, who thinks 1 flat a week is a very light week, in ABQ, NM.
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, cyclot...@gmail.com  <
> cyclot...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty consistent with goathead flats across all my tires. Basically 
>> once a week no matter what I'm on (32mm-40mm so not the greatest range).
>>
>> For this reason I'm looking seriously at a tubeless set up that Fred B 
>> mentioned on 650B list: WTB ChrisCross 
>>  and Schwalbe Almotion. 
>>  
>>
>> *  -- George Orwell, Keep 
>> The Apidistra Flying*
>>
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[RBW] Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

2014-11-12 Thread WETH

Tony,
A great write -up and terrific photos.  You truly had perfect weather for your 
ride.  I love how the Bombadil looks and I assume it was comfortable for the 
entire trip.  I am sorry I had to work as it would have been fun to join you.  
I look forward to seeing the Bombadil in person and trying to keep up with you. 
 I enjoyed the anecdote about the cross country runner; whenever that happens 
to me I figure that I am giving the runner a good story tell.
Erl
PS: a belated thanks for your service.

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[RBW] Re: Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

Thanks for the great report, Tony! Amazing falls. That Bombadil is 
fantastic!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil final build--for now.

That is a sweet looking Bombadil Trevor!  Love the color and I agree that 
everyone needs at least 1 (+1) Albatross bike...

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[RBW] Veterans Day Ride - Bombadil Style!

Leesburg Loop Veterans Day Ride 


Bomba pics extracted below for your viewing convenience.  This is the 
fastest I've gone from adding a bike, to building and then taking it on a 
major ride.  A real credit to the frame design (and the good condition its 
previous owners left it in - thanks Tom!) and many of the common sense 
components that Riv champions.  I'd been wanting to do the Leesburg Loop 
here in the DC area for some time now.  I will definitely admit that I 
struggled with the distance but we had a great group together, perfect 
weather and a full day to accomplish the ride so we had a great time.  

The Bombadil did wonderfully, the Vee Rubber 1.95"ers proved to be an ideal 
C&O Towpath tire as I'd expected, the swap to a Nitto Dirt Drop stem and 
addition of interrupter levers was just what the doctor ordered as well. 
 On the blog post you'll also notice my XO-3 and MB-3 that were being 
ridden by guests, both set up with Alba-style bars and quite Riv-ish... 

I can't recommend this ride highly enough, I think next time I'd prefer to 
cut it in half and make a camping night or a B&B stop in Leesburg so that I 
could enjoy several of the 3 or so new breweries that have popped up 
trailside along the W&OD though!













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[RBW] Re: Bombadil final build--for now.

2014-11-12 Thread Trevor saxton

Thanks for the details from Riv visit, they actually mentioned the bike in 
their Blug some time ago as well, it was my 15 minutes of fameI was 
actually a bit sheepish when I settled on the Matte Black as initially I had 
discussed some VW van type colours and was worried that they would reject the 
non color, but I am thrilled with the result. 

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[RBW] FS - White Eno Wheel, Nitto r14 rear rack. WTT- Olive Medium Saddle Sack

2014-11-12 Thread Trevor saxton

Pics of the eno wheel

https://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/15778519882/

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Re: [RBW] FS His and Hers Atlantis and Betty Foy

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Chen

Sad :(

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM, 'rolf...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Estate Sale.  His and hers Rivendell Touring Bikes built early 2012.
>
> Atlantis 58cm Standard build
>
> Betty Foy 60cm Standard build
>
>
>
> Simano HG61 9 Speed 12-36 Cassette
>
> Sugino XD-2 Crankset, 170mm
>
> 700 x 38 Tires
>
> Brooks saddles
>
> Both bikes always stored indoors and are in like new condition. They
> include racks, bags and pumps.
>
> Bikes are located in Chico CA. 95926.
>
> Pictures can be seen at:  http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html
>
>
>
> Atlantis $3000
>
> Betty Foy  $2700
>
> For the pair   $5500
>
> Call for more information
>
> Jeff  530-519-2770
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

Maybe they are both Betty-blue?  They definitely seem to match, and the 
Betty definitely has a cream headtube which means it was a special one-off 
paintjob.  At any rateCUTE!

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:51:48 PM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
>
>  While the full bike pic of the Betty does kinda look Atlantis green, 
> check the close-up of the seat tube cluster – standard Betty blue.
>
>  
>
> [image: http://images.craigslist.org/00a0a_bKV1VGV56Mb_600x450.jpg]
>
>  
>
> T 
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Bill Lindsay
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:12 PM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL
>
>  
>  
> I agree they are priced optimistically, but it's worth clicking just to 
> see the photos of a Betty Foy painted Atlantis green with a cream headtube. 
>  Cute!
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:06:10 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>  
> Strange, I frequent estate sales here in NY with my mom and usually the 
> prices are really good, not yardsale giving it away good but below or at 
> market. These are above market, IMO, especially for an estate sale. 
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
>  
> In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the 
> price still may leave more than a little to be desired: 
> http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html
>
>
> Chris Trowbridge
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

I think tire savers make a difference, no matter what width the tire. Also,
tubed or tubeless, as long as you have 50 psi in your tires, consider 2 oz
of Stan's. As I declaimed ad nauseam 18 months ago, the Parigi Roubaix got
goathead flats every 2-5 miles. After Stan's, none - well, one only, before
I re-installed the tire savers. With both systems, none.

Patrick Moore, who thinks 1 flat a week is a very light week, in ABQ, NM.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com <
cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty consistent with goathead flats across all my tires. Basically
> once a week no matter what I'm on (32mm-40mm so not the greatest range).
>
> For this reason I'm looking seriously at a tubeless set up that Fred B
> mentioned on 650B list: WTB ChrisCross
>  and Schwalbe Almotion.
> 
>
> *  -- George Orwell, Keep
> The Apidistra Flying*
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RE: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

While the full bike pic of the Betty does kinda look Atlantis green, check the 
close-up of the seat tube cluster – standard Betty blue.

[http://images.craigslist.org/00a0a_bKV1VGV56Mb_600x450.jpg]

T

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

I agree they are priced optimistically, but it's worth clicking just to see the 
photos of a Betty Foy painted Atlantis green with a cream headtube.  Cute!

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:06:10 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
Strange, I frequent estate sales here in NY with my mom and usually the prices 
are really good, not yardsale giving it away good but below or at market. These 
are above market, IMO, especially for an estate sale.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Chris > wrote:
In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the price 
still may leave more than a little to be desired: 
http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Tim McNamara

Any seller on eBay can sell anything for any price they can get. EBay is about 
the sellers; the higher the prices that items are sold for, the more profit 
eBay makes. They really have no reason to care if buyers overpay.  Shop 
victoriously!

The rule on eBay, as with virtually all other marketplaces, is "caveat emptor." 
 The buyer needs to do the research to understand what is or is not a good 
price for a product. If they do not bother to do said research, then they are 
fools destined to be separated from their money. Over the many years that I've 
been buying on eBay, I have watched many buyers pay far more than retail for 
currently available products.

For what it's worth, I have sold one item on eBay and will never sell another 
item through that service. The fees are exorbitant and ultimately I ended up 
losing my shirt on the item I sold largely because of what eBay charged me. 
That was a "live and learn" experience. Everybody's got to have a few of those 
in life.

As far as the specific seller is concerned, I haven't looked at his auctions 
and don't directly have a whole lot to say. I have found some people in the 
"vintage bike component of market" too often over estimate the value of their 
items.  I remember 10 or 15 years ago when vintage Campagnolo components were 
going for stupid prices, sometimes far higher than they are now on eBay.  One 
sees the same sort of thing- basically "gouge the rubes-" among some antique 
dealers.  Thing is you don't have to buy.

I have also had good experiences with some of the vintage bike parts sellers; 
locally there was a guy named John Barron with whom I had a number of good 
experiences- not only decent prices but he even delivered for free since I 
lived a mile from his day job. John put a lot of work into locating parts, 
sometimes even traveling out of the country to find them. I doubt he made a lot 
of profit off of this.  Of course there was that time he crashed me at the 
velodrome and I separated my shoulder... 



(it wasn't really his fault, I just put that in there for dramatic effect)

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham

David, we will expect higher Riv content from you hence forth ; -

And no more capitalism blocking ya here!

-Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Nov 12, 2014 3:39 PM, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

> As the person starting this, I'm 100% okay with it being deleted by a
> benevolent dictator. :-)
>
> While it was vaguely on-topic (Rivendell/Nitto parts), it wasn't the most
> uplifting of posts...
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:20:38 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> He is going to come here and beg the service that he provides as a way to
>> justify the predatory prices he sets.  I don't see any good coming of the
>> replies that will follow, though I promise not to join in.
>> I know specifically of Moser pantographed Modolo levers from Hungary,
>> $45/, that he and I bought on ebay at the same time - mine went on my Moser
>> and his were listed with a $225 BIN (at the same time you could still buy a
>> dozen at $45/ from Hungary).  You can check, he has buyer feedback as well
>> as seller feedback.  He is not the only one doing this - there is a set
>> with the same history listed currently for $135 by a different seller.
>> That is a shady practice, but is not fraudulent misrepresentation.
>>
>> The RBW content, though, is that this thread started on an RBW part,
>> designed by Nitto for RBW, currently sold by RBW, - a used part offered at
>> twice the price of a new part from RBW.
>> It is not a vintage part, though he lists it as such on ebay.
>> This is a fraudulent misrepresentation.  Ebay doesn't have a mechanism to
>> report it, so ebay considers this business as usual.
>>
>> He has specifically come up in the past on RBW water bottles, among many
>> other items, and he will come up again in the future.  I know of other
>> forums that have banned links to ebay over this same type of problem.
>> I don't think we should go that far.
>>
>> I personally would rather see this thread disappear.
>> If you think he has the right to take exception with what I've posted
>> here, that's up to you Jim.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:34:16 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>>>
>>> I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves,
>>> not really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants
>>> people's hard earned money.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say
 about whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread,
 so simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that.

 It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who
 really need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also
 their right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I
 would seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed
 that item at an inflated price.

 I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you
 believe what he's asking for that!!

 In the end I of course  will abide by Jim's decision.


 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim <
 cyclo...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ok...
>
> Everybody take a breath.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project
> which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy
> enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.
>
> On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly
> asking if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation
> queue.  It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally
> reflects his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business.
>
> I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't
> really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable
> restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the
> gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.
>
> Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted.
>
> I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks
> who think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute"
> camp.  That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the
> retail trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people
> peel off bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous 
> items,
> just because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a
> Rolex just because you want to know what time it is.
>
> Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And
> that is what worries me

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

I'm pretty consistent with goathead flats across all my tires. Basically 
once a week no matter what I'm on (32mm-40mm so not the greatest range).

For this reason I'm looking seriously at a tubeless set up that Fred B 
mentioned on 650B list: WTB ChrisCross 
 and Schwalbe Almotion. 
 



On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:35:25 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no more 
> flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different kinds of 
> flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, this over 25 
> years of riding in Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't "generally speaking".
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Jan Heine  > wrote: Generally speaking, wider tires that run at lower 
> pressures have far fewer flats than narrower tires that run at higher 
> pressures.
>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

As the person starting this, I'm 100% okay with it being deleted by a 
benevolent dictator. :-)

While it was vaguely on-topic (Rivendell/Nitto parts), it wasn't the most 
uplifting of posts...

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:20:38 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> He is going to come here and beg the service that he provides as a way to 
> justify the predatory prices he sets.  I don't see any good coming of the 
> replies that will follow, though I promise not to join in.  
> I know specifically of Moser pantographed Modolo levers from Hungary, 
> $45/, that he and I bought on ebay at the same time - mine went on my Moser 
> and his were listed with a $225 BIN (at the same time you could still buy a 
> dozen at $45/ from Hungary).  You can check, he has buyer feedback as well 
> as seller feedback.  He is not the only one doing this - there is a set 
> with the same history listed currently for $135 by a different seller.  
> That is a shady practice, but is not fraudulent misrepresentation.  
>
> The RBW content, though, is that this thread started on an RBW part, 
> designed by Nitto for RBW, currently sold by RBW, - a used part offered at 
> twice the price of a new part from RBW.  
> It is not a vintage part, though he lists it as such on ebay.  
> This is a fraudulent misrepresentation.  Ebay doesn't have a mechanism to 
> report it, so ebay considers this business as usual.  
>
> He has specifically come up in the past on RBW water bottles, among many 
> other items, and he will come up again in the future.  I know of other 
> forums that have banned links to ebay over this same type of problem.  
> I don't think we should go that far.  
>
> I personally would rather see this thread disappear.  
> If you think he has the right to take exception with what I've posted 
> here, that's up to you Jim.  
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:34:16 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves, not 
>> really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants people's 
>> hard earned money. 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say 
>>> about whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, 
>>> so simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that. 
>>>
>>> It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who 
>>> really need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also 
>>> their right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I 
>>> would seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed 
>>> that item at an inflated price.
>>>
>>> I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you 
>>> believe what he's asking for that!! 
>>>
>>> In the end I of course  will abide by Jim's decision.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim >> > wrote:
>>>
 Ok... 

 Everybody take a breath.

 Thanks.

 I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project 
 which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy 
 enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.

 On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly 
 asking if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation 
 queue.  It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally 
 reflects his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business. 

 I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't 
 really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable 
 restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the 
 gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.  

 Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted. 

 I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who 
 think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp.  
 That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail 
 trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off 
 bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just 
 because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex 
 just because you want to know what time it is. 

 Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And 
 that is what worries me.  

 I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, 
 I'm leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements.  
 After all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep 
 him moderated, so

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 11/12/2014 06:05 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

Though they are generally present throughout the SW.


As I said, Hell.  By definition, any place where goatheads are 
"generally present" qualifies in my book as Hell.




On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Steve Palincsar > wrote:


On 11/12/2014 11:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:

This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently
get no more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all
the different kinds of flats into consideration, 99.9% of
which are from goatheads, this over 25 years of riding in
Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't "generally speaking".


Goatheads are only "generally speaking" if you live in Hell.

;-)




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Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

2014-11-12 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

Those two look great! Someone was just recently discussing matching his/her 
Rivs... here's their chance!

As an aside, it's a bit poignant to see those two great and relatively new 
(2012) bikes at an estate sale... someone had some great plans which don't 
seem to have played out so well.


On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:11:53 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I agree they are priced optimistically, but it's worth clicking just to 
> see the photos of a Betty Foy painted Atlantis green with a cream headtube. 
>  Cute!
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:06:10 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> Strange, I frequent estate sales here in NY with my mom and usually the 
>> prices are really good, not yardsale giving it away good but below or at 
>> market. These are above market, IMO, especially for an estate sale. 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
>>
>>> In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the 
>>> price still may leave more than a little to be desired: 
>>> http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Trowbridge
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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Ron Mc

He is going to come here and beg the service that he provides as a way to 
justify the predatory prices he sets.  I don't see any good coming of the 
replies that will follow, though I promise not to join in.  
I know specifically of Moser pantographed Modolo levers from Hungary, $45/, 
that he and I bought on ebay at the same time - mine went on my Moser and 
his were listed with a $225 BIN (at the same time you could still buy a 
dozen at $45/ from Hungary).  You can check, he has buyer feedback as well 
as seller feedback.  He is not the only one doing this - there is a set 
with the same history listed currently for $135 by a different seller.  
That is a shady practice, but is not fraudulent misrepresentation.  

The RBW content, though, is that this thread started on an RBW part, 
designed by Nitto for RBW, currently sold by RBW, - a used part offered at 
twice the price of a new part from RBW.  
It is not a vintage part, though he lists it as such on ebay.  
This is a fraudulent misrepresentation.  Ebay doesn't have a mechanism to 
report it, so ebay considers this business as usual.  

He has specifically come up in the past on RBW water bottles, among many 
other items, and he will come up again in the future.  I know of other 
forums that have banned links to ebay over this same type of problem.  
I don't think we should go that far.  

I personally would rather see this thread disappear.  
If you think he has the right to take exception with what I've posted here, 
that's up to you Jim.  

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:34:16 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>
> I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves, not 
> really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants people's 
> hard earned money. 
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
>> I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say 
>> about whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, 
>> so simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that. 
>>
>> It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who 
>> really need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also 
>> their right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I 
>> would seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed 
>> that item at an inflated price.
>>
>> I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you 
>> believe what he's asking for that!! 
>>
>> In the end I of course  will abide by Jim's decision.
>>
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim > > wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... 
>>>
>>> Everybody take a breath.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project 
>>> which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy 
>>> enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly 
>>> asking if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation 
>>> queue.  It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally 
>>> reflects his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business. 
>>>
>>> I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't 
>>> really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable 
>>> restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the 
>>> gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.  
>>>
>>> Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted. 
>>>
>>> I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who 
>>> think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp.  
>>> That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail 
>>> trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off 
>>> bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just 
>>> because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex 
>>> just because you want to know what time it is. 
>>>
>>> Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And that 
>>> is what worries me.  
>>>
>>> I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, 
>>> I'm leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements.  
>>> After all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep 
>>> him moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay.
>>>
>>> I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or passing 
>>> his comment through with the hope that we find our better selves and pause 
>>> a moment before responding.  And of course, if it all devolves, that will 
>>> still mean killing the thread. 
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have some thoughts, share them he

Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

I agree they are priced optimistically, but it's worth clicking just to see 
the photos of a Betty Foy painted Atlantis green with a cream headtube. 
 Cute!

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:06:10 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> Strange, I frequent estate sales here in NY with my mom and usually the 
> prices are really good, not yardsale giving it away good but below or at 
> market. These are above market, IMO, especially for an estate sale. 
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Chris > 
> wrote:
>
>> In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the 
>> price still may leave more than a little to be desired: 
>> http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html
>>
>>
>> Chris Trowbridge
>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

2014-11-12 Thread Goshen Peter

Strange, I frequent estate sales here in NY with my mom and usually the
prices are really good, not yardsale giving it away good but below or at
market. These are above market, IMO, especially for an estate sale.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:

> In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the
> price still may leave more than a little to be desired:
> http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html
>
>
> Chris Trowbridge
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

Though they are generally present throughout the SW.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On 11/12/2014 11:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no
>> more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different kinds
>> of flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, this over
>> 25 years of riding in Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't "generally speaking".
>>
>
> Goatheads are only "generally speaking" if you live in Hell.
>
> ;-)
>
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nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
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Re: [RBW] Re: Revelate Pika bag: dimensions and reviews?

Thanks, Garth; it's still much bigger than I thought it was, or than I need.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Garth  wrote:

> I can't recall the post Patrick, but you asked about this once before when
> you were looking for bags.  I have a Pika and I posted this photo of it.
> Yes, the capacity is large fully expanded outward (behind , not down) , but
> at it's smallest it's still got good capacity but is very very stable , no
> swaying at all .
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/44fwwuUGIeHf_ekplhDlN3Cp3kpjgA87sF6gwBMK7cM?feat=directlink
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:35:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> In the ongoing search for the ideal seat bag, I came across the Pika
>> which looks as if it might have the best of both (small and big) worlds;
>> and it comes in red. Does anyone own a Pika? If so, can she or he give me
>> the dimensions both expanded to the maximum and cinched as small as
>> possible?
>>
>> If anyone has one to sell, I might be interested, particularly if it is
>> red. My Jandd Mountain Wedge III is too hugely huge for my purpose and I
>> *might* be persuaded to add that to the "bid" side of the trade -- I
>> realize that the Revelate is 2X the cost of the Jandd.
>>
>> 'Nother question: The Minihaha small saddlebag is 9.5" X 6" X 6". Can one
>> get a large Riv waterbottle (a wee bit over 10" at the top of the spout)
>> into one of these without forcing things?
>>
>> I expect that the Revelate design is better for my needs, but just in
>> case ...
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to
>> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his
>> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely
>> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in
>> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing
>> so.”*
>> *
>> -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*
>>
>> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
>> money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I
>> have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge;
>> and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
>> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
>> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
>> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
>> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
>> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
>> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
>> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
>> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
>> *
>>-- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying*
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though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods

[RBW] PSA: Atlantis and Betty For Sale on CL

2014-11-12 Thread Chris

In my neck of the woods, but not mine. Seem to be pretty cherry, but the 
price still may leave more than a little to be desired: 
http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html


Chris Trowbridge

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[RBW] WTB Pletscher Twin Leg Kickstand.

2014-11-12 Thread hsmitham

Looking for the above in either black or silver. If you've got one and need to 
clear it out private message me off list. Thanks all.

Cheers,

-Hugh
 Los Angeles, CA 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

They are yours if you want them.

The PayPal address is da...@jps.net. Put in a note that says what you are
paying for and please send your shipping address. I'll get them out ASAP.

Thanks!

Dan



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[RBW] FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Kainalu

I'd like to reserve the barley bag please, will email when I can access yours 
(can't access from this phone). Or you can email me at kaivierstra at gmail.com
thanks
-Kai 

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Goshen Peter

I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves, not
really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants people's
hard earned money.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say about
> whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, so
> simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that.
>
> It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who
> really need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also
> their right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I
> would seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed
> that item at an inflated price.
>
> I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you
> believe what he's asking for that!!
>
> In the end I of course  will abide by Jim's decision.
>
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  > wrote:
>
>> Ok...
>>
>> Everybody take a breath.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project
>> which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy
>> enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.
>>
>> On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly asking
>> if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation queue.
>> It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally reflects
>> his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business.
>>
>> I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't
>> really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable
>> restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the
>> gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.
>>
>> Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted.
>>
>> I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who
>> think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp.
>> That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail
>> trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off
>> bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just
>> because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex
>> just because you want to know what time it is.
>>
>> Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And that
>> is what worries me.
>>
>> I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, I'm
>> leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements.
>> After all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep
>> him moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay.
>>
>> I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or passing
>> his comment through with the hope that we find our better selves and pause
>> a moment before responding.  And of course, if it all devolves, that will
>> still mean killing the thread.
>>
>>
>> If you have some thoughts, share them here.
>>
>> See you in an hour or so!
>>
>> - Jim / cyclofiend.com / Group Admin
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Tim Gavin

Email sent for the Flyer Special and the VO Retro cages

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> Sent email for the Nitto cages.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Anton Tutter

and for:

Tektro CR720 Cantis  Black
Grand Bois Elysées Porteur Bar
Berthoud 786 Saddle Bag - grey

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[RBW] Re: FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Anton Tutter

Sent email for the Nitto cages.

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham

I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say about
whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, so
simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that.

It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who really
need that item(s) and don't have a budget or what ever it's also their
right to spend their money as they see fit. I do have a budget and I would
seriously question my sanity if I felt so compelled that I needed that item
at an inflated price.

I think everyone has been polite. The posting was meant as a can you
believe what he's asking for that!!

In the end I of course  will abide by Jim's decision.


~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

> Ok...
>
> Everybody take a breath.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project
> which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy
> enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.
>
> On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly asking
> if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation queue.
> It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally reflects
> his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business.
>
> I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't
> really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable
> restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the
> gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.
>
> Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted.
>
> I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who
> think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp.
> That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail
> trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off
> bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just
> because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex
> just because you want to know what time it is.
>
> Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And that
> is what worries me.
>
> I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, I'm
> leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements.
> After all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep
> him moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay.
>
> I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or passing
> his comment through with the hope that we find our better selves and pause
> a moment before responding.  And of course, if it all devolves, that will
> still mean killing the thread.
>
>
> If you have some thoughts, share them here.
>
> See you in an hour or so!
>
> - Jim / cyclofiend.com / Group Admin
>
>
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[RBW] FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Wildcat96

I'm interested in the Shimano barcons.

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[RBW] FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread Conway Bennett

I'll take the Tektro CR720s and possibly the TRP levers.


Fair winds,

Captain Aconeay

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RE: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

I trust Jim’s judgment.  And, generally, the restraint of the group.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

Ok...

Everybody take a breath.

Thanks.

I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project which 
finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy enough to 
ask just why this is a RBW related topic.

On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly asking if he 
could post a response, which is currently in the moderation queue.  It's kind 
of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally reflects his nature.  He 
does talk about how he runs his business.

I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't really 
micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable restraint 
so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the gasoline which 
creates a fairly dramatic fireball.

Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted.

I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who think 
it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp.  That's 
pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail trenches in a 
fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off bills or crack a 
credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just because they were the 
most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex just because you want to 
know what time it is.

Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And that is 
what worries me.

I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, I'm 
leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements.  After 
all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep him 
moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay.

I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or passing his 
comment through with the hope that we find our better selves and pause a moment 
before responding.  And of course, if it all devolves, that will still mean 
killing the thread.

If you have some thoughts, share them here.

See you in an hour or so!

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne Geometry for new 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm

2014-11-12 Thread James Warren

I think the 60 and 62 have about the same top tube length, both somewhere between 60 and 60.5 cm. That's actual length, not effective.
-Original Message- From: Doug Williams Sent: Nov 12, 2014 10:53 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Sam Hillborne Geometry for new 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm Has anyone seen new updated geometry charts for the new 2014 Hillborne sizes (51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm)?Ok, I'm sure I can get a good enough idea by interpolating the old charts for the 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64. I'm looking at the 55cm and I'm sure it is very close to the 56. Close enough to not matter whatsoever. But...do we have new charts somewhere?Doug-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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[RBW] FS: Fall 2014 Garage clean out - Big list! Lots of stuff.

2014-11-12 Thread 'rolf...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hurt my knee so ended up going through lots of boxes instead of riding last
weekend.

Tried to keep the list as readable as possible. It is a fairly long and not
all applicable to this group but I'll start here.

Pictures of most items are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5tFS59

Please email off list to djmcnamara at gmail dot com with any interest or
questions

PayPal personal is best. If you want to use regular PayPal add 3% to cover
the PP fee.

Thanks for looking




Nitto R Water Bottle Cages
Perfect shape pair - $65 shipped

Tektro CR720 Cantis  Black
Take offs. Full set Never used - $35 shipped

Dia-Compe non-aero levers
Great shape. $35 shipped

Hunter Nugz
Barrel adjusters for Paul canti straddle - $25 shipped

Shimano Nexus 7-speed IGH with coaster brake 650B Dyad
Hands On Wheels built. Twist shift with cable Very lite use - $225 shipped

Velo Orange Leather Mud Flaps Brown
Never mounted. Pair $30 shipped

Velo Orange Retro type II cages
Never used pair - $30 shipped

FSA Metropolis single crankset 45T
170 crank. New - $50 shipped

Sugino Impel crankset 42/32/22T
175 crank. New - $50 shipped

Shimano Ultegra RD-6600
Good Shape. $30 shipped

Shimano Ultegra FD-6500
Good shape $25 shipped

Shimano 105 Triple 10-Speed FD-5603
New in box. $45 shipped

Tektro RX 4.1 reverse brake levers
Good shape. $35 shipped

Tektro RRL TRP Levers - Grey with Black Hoods
Never used. $50 shipped

Shimano 8/9 speed bar-cons
Good shape. Scrape on right cover - $40 shipped

Paul Thumbies Black Shimano mount 22.2
Package opened never mounted. $50 shipped

Rivet Pearl Saddle cro-mo rails Natural
Nice saddle. Very light use - $90 shipped

Brooks Flyer Special Honey
Nice shape. $60 shipped

Brooks B17 Honey
New in box - $85 shipped

Brooks Flyer S Honey
Good shape. $55 shipped

Grand Bois Elysées Porteur Bars
Good shape. $45 shipped

Viva bar tape medium dark blue
Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped

Toshi bar tape red
Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped

Viva bar tape medium light blue
Sealed package 2 rolls - $15 shipped

Selle An-Atomica Leather Bar Tape Black
Sealed package Includes gel pads. $40 shipped

Brooks Plump grips Honey
Perfect shape - $45 shipped

Cardiff Julian leather grips - black
New in package - $25 shipped

Cycle Pro Cork Grips
New in package - $20 shipped

Nitto bar end plugs Blue
perfect shape - $18 shipped

Berthoud 786 Saddle Bag - grey
Good shape. No holes or rips - $60 shipped

Berthoud 192 Bar Bag - Grey
Good shape. All mounts included - $120 shipped

Berthoud 604 Rear Bag - Grey
New. Complete. Like a trunk for your bike - $175 shipped

Berthoud 704 Rear Bag - Grey
New. Complete. Like a small trunk for your bike - $175 shipped

Carradice Barney green with Bagman II support
Good shape - $90

Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700 x 35c 3 tires
Wire bead. RaceGuard,Speedgrip - $60 shipped for all 3

Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin 650B x 41
Folding bead. New in package. Original version - $30 shipped

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Ok... 

Everybody take a breath.

Thanks.


I'm kind of conflicted on this thread.  I've been working on a project 
which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy 
enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.

On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted me directly asking 
if he could post a response, which is currently in the moderation queue. 
 It's kind of blunt in places, but I'm guessing that it generally reflects 
his nature.  He does talk about how he runs his business. 

I've got another project starting this afternoon, which means I can't 
really micro-manage the responses - which I will say have shown reasonable 
restraint so far.   I'm wondering whether the response will simply be the 
gasoline which creates a fairly dramatic fireball.  

Like I say, I'm kind of conflicted. 

I've followed through the comments so far, and there are many folks who 
think it's just head-shaking funny.  The "Sucker Born Every Minute" camp. 
 That's pretty much where I am, having served many years in the retail 
trenches in a fairly affluent neck of the woods, I've seen people peel off 
bills or crack a credit card for some reasonable ridiculous items, just 
because they were the most expensive.  As they say, you don't buy a Rolex 
just because you want to know what time it is. 

Then there are a few folks who have used stronger descriptions. And that is 
what worries me.  

I'll probably think on this while I have lunch, but when I come back, I'm 
leaning towards just letting the fellow make a few public statements. 
 After all, we did start this topic of discussion.  I would probably keep 
him moderated, so responses would not be instant due to the queue delay.

I guess the end result will simply be killing this thread now or passing 
his comment through with the hope that we find our better selves and pause 
a moment before responding.  And of course, if it all devolves, that will 
still mean killing the thread. 


If you have some thoughts, share them here.   

See you in an hour or so!

- Jim / cyclofiend.com / Group Admin





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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Geometry for new 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Williams

Thanks! Top tube length was my main concern, as I have yet to decide 
between noodles and albas.

Doug

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:09:43 AM UTC-8, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
> I asked Grant recently about the effective top tube lengths on the Sams as 
> my 51 seems really long.  He said off the top of his head he believed the 
> 51 was 55.5cm ETT (longer than I was originally told and I ended up 
> ordering too longa  stem) and the 55 was 57.5cm ETT.

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Re: [RBW] HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread A. Collins

Seller has this at the top of his eBay listing,

"Here, i have no idea of the age, when Nitto started production, There are 
date codes on the vintage trek site, please stop insulting and calling me a 
fraud because of the use of the word Vintage.  if you have something to 
add, please by all means , message me with the facts "

And yes I skip over his listings but there are times when I need a 
particular thing and I want it to be just so and I pay for it when I find 
it because I know it will be a long hard wait if I pass it over and I don't 
have any sort of uber Amex card to fulfill.  I agree, that stem could be 
had readily for a lot less than he's asking.  The good and the bad of eBay, 
you can find things you're looking for, sometimes they're more than you 
want to pay.  

Speaking of which, I'm looking for a Campagnolo front track hub 32 h large 
flange in reasonable condition.  I'm about to give up and pay more for one 
than I really want to.  Fronts seem harder to find than rears for some 
reason.  Ken Wallace had a very nice Dura Ace laced to a French tubular rim 
at the Tucson swap 2 weeks ago.  The price was very right but I didn't need 
another rear to try and match.  Asa


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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Scott Calhoun

I was working in Colorado this last summer and stopped into Pro's Closet. 
It is a clean little set up with tons of parts gleaned from ex-pros and the 
Boulder industry people. It's rumored they are working on a bike museum as 
well. It is located in a nondescript light industrial warehouse on the 
fringe of Boulder. Curiously, Boulder Bicycle and Mike Kone are in the same 
complex so it can make a nice trip chain. 

Scott in Tucson

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:21:02 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> It's a heck of a business model, and probably something they love doing. 
> Separating fools from their money that is. But I don't see how a *buyer* 
> would not take 30 seconds and find a new Nitto stem for half of what pb is 
> selling used for. If s/he is able to take their money, all hail pb!
>
> I much prefer Pro's Closet out of CO: They offer excellent product, start 
> a low price, no reserve auction, and sell it at what the market determines. 
> They've established quite the reputation for quality. 
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Paul Brodek  > wrote:
>
>> So I kinda know pb*bikes, we talked once, and I've seen his postings on 
>> various forums. I'm familiar with his operation and the ill-will he seems 
>> to generate. He hasn't appointed me as his defender, and I'm not 
>> volunteering for that roll, but I will present another side of the coin.
>>
>> If you search his completed auctions and check his feedback, you will 
>> find there are indeed quite a lot of buyers happy to pay his prices, and 
>> happy with the value they receive. If one sleeps better thinking these 
>> happy buyers are suckers or fools, so be it. Some of them may be. But the 
>> reality is there are quite a few well-heeled collectors who place a premium 
>> on their time, and would rather pay $500 for an NOS derailleur to finish 
>> off their $15k Herse/Cinelli/whatever than spend hours on ebay trying to 
>> find a clean-but-not-NOS one for less. I have customers with $50k monthly 
>> budgets for their hobbies, and they don't blink plunking down their Amex 
>> Centurion card for $40k worth of Leica, if Leica is what they want that 
>> month. You need to charge at least $250k/yr to get an Amex Centurion card, 
>> so we're talking big spenders. One guy bought a new Corvette last year with 
>> his Centurion card---he wanted one, and he also wanted to see if the charge 
>> would go through. It did.
>>
>> As for sourcing, pb*bikes spends a lot of time sourcing this stuff from 
>> all over the world. Working the phones, traveling to check forgotten 
>> warehouse lots. He's got to grade, sort and photograph his inventory, 
>> handle all the auctions and fulfillment. I think he might have an employee 
>> now, so he's got a salary to meet as well. It's an interesting business 
>> model, he does it well and seems to enjoy it, but it doesn't look to me 
>> like an easy way to make a buck.
>>
>> And yes, he is either directly or indirectly contributing to increasing 
>> prices for vintage bicycle stuff. There is a finite amount of vintage 
>> equipment on the planet, and as the deep pockets get the bug, prices go up. 
>> Doesn't matter whether you blame the sellers or the buyers, it happens. You 
>> either belly up to the bar and pay a premium, or you live without. Vintage 
>> guitars, vintage audio, vintage Zippo lighters, vintage Levi's jeans, 
>> vintage watches, vintage fly rods, vintage tons o' stuff---if people like 
>> it and collect it, usually prices rise.
>>
>> I've never bought a single item from him, don't reckon I ever will. I 
>> don't care about NOS, and even if I did, I don't have that kind of budget. 
>> But I don't think the majority of his customers are ignorant or idiots, and 
>> his business model doesn't upset me.
>>
>> As for filtering him out of your ebay search results, that's not hard to 
>> do indirectly. You can input a price range on a search. Whatever part 
>> you're looking for, set the high end of the range to whatever you think is 
>> unreasonable. Then you won't see anything that'll upset you.   
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:08:27 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>>
>>> It really is truly amazing what he gets for his stuff when you look at 
>>> his sold items.  $75 for NOS Simplex pulleys??!! They're not even the fancy 
>>> bearing version.
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-Vintage-bicycle-Derailleur-Pulleys-/
>>> 281326407472?pt=US_Derailleurs_Rear&hash=item41805c4f30&nma=true&si=
>>> w76z2dQWkZ8tR3W%252BVQ8Whd01vzA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=
>>> p2047675.l2557
>>>
>>> I think I had box of these at some point. Dang, I could have retired!!!
>>>
>>> Anton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:45:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

 Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for 
 sale, and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the 
 feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay thos

[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

2014-11-12 Thread Wildcat96

One last shot before I take my chances on eBay.  $1650 plus shipping.  I just 
need something that fits me a little better so trades are also welcome.  Take a 
look at the pics on my Flickr page.  It's a beautiful frame.  I almost want to 
just hang it on the wall as a piece of art!

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[RBW] Re: Revelate Pika bag: dimensions and reviews?

2014-11-12 Thread Garth

I can't recall the post Patrick, but you asked about this once before when 
you were looking for bags.  I have a Pika and I posted this photo of it.   
Yes, the capacity is large fully expanded outward (behind , not down) , but 
at it's smallest it's still got good capacity but is very very stable , no 
swaying at all . 

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/44fwwuUGIeHf_ekplhDlN3Cp3kpjgA87sF6gwBMK7cM?feat=directlink



On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:35:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> In the ongoing search for the ideal seat bag, I came across the Pika which 
> looks as if it might have the best of both (small and big) worlds; and it 
> comes in red. Does anyone own a Pika? If so, can she or he give me the 
> dimensions both expanded to the maximum and cinched as small as possible?
>
> If anyone has one to sell, I might be interested, particularly if it is 
> red. My Jandd Mountain Wedge III is too hugely huge for my purpose and I 
> *might* be persuaded to add that to the "bid" side of the trade -- I 
> realize that the Revelate is 2X the cost of the Jandd.
>
> 'Nother question: The Minihaha small saddlebag is 9.5" X 6" X 6". Can one 
> get a large Riv waterbottle (a wee bit over 10" at the top of the spout) 
> into one of these without forcing things?
>
> I expect that the Revelate design is better for my needs, but just in case 
> ...
>
> Thanks.
>
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> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his 
> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely 
> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in 
> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing 
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>
> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, 
> I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have 
> the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and 
> though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not 
> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and 
> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me 
> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money 
> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh 
> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in 
> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Campee Large Rear Rack - Used

2014-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Marco

is this for 26" or 700c? or both?

On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:23:10 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:
>
> Barely used Nitto Rear Rack:  $110
>
> Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4755152183.html
>
> Pick-up locally in Fairfax, CA or San Francisco.  Cash.
>
> Or I could ship it and you pay shipping (USPS).  Paypal.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Looking for a single bar-end shifter

2014-11-12 Thread Dave Redmon

*Does anyone have a single bar-end friction shifter to sell? Any brand, any 
age wanted to actuate front derailer. Must be reliable. Reply off list 
please. *

*Dave Redmon*

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[RBW] Nitto bullmoose WTB

2014-11-12 Thread Ray Colmenar

Anyone have a nitto bullmoose rivendell version you can spare?  I'd like to 
give it a try for an old MTB frame. 

Thanks
Ray

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[RBW] FS His and Hers Atlantis and Betty Foy

 

Estate Sale.  His and hers Rivendell Touring Bikes built early 2012.

Atlantis 58cm Standard build

Betty Foy 60cm Standard build

 

Simano HG61 9 Speed 12-36 Cassette

Sugino XD-2 Crankset, 170mm

700 x 38 Tires

Brooks saddles 

Both bikes always stored indoors and are in like new condition. They 
include racks, bags and pumps.

Bikes are located in Chico CA. 95926. 

Pictures can be seen at:  http://chico.craigslist.org/bik/4757057166.html

 

Atlantis $3000  

Betty Foy  $2700

For the pair   $5500

Call for more information

Jeff  530-519-2770

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Ron Mc

we're still talking about a current production part, which can be bought 
new for $170, that he has a used one listed as "Rare Vintage" for $450 BIN. 
 It's not about the price, it's about the lie.  

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:16:53 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I’ll open myself to mocking by admitting that I have, in fact, sold a 
> plastic bicycle water bottle on eBay for $100. However, this was a very 
> rare, mint condition bottle from the 1980s, still in the original packaging 
> and printed with the Colnago name and logo. The combination of those 
> factors led a very motivated buyer who was, I believe, doing  a 
> period-correct restoration of a Colnago, to pay that much. 
>
> I’ve sold other bottles from my collection of NOS 1980s bottles for 
> amounts ranging from $20 to $50. The price is highly related to the 
> desirability of the trademark on the bottle. Interesting that most of the 
> buyers for items like this come from overseas. I’ve shipped bottles to the 
> Philippines, Japan, and China. Japan, in particular, is home to a large 
> number of bicycle collectors who are particularly interested in restoring 
> Italian bikes from the “golden age” of European racing.
>
> --Eric N
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.CampyOnly.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
> Blog: http://CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com  
>
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Beth H > 
> wrote:
>
> 3. Anyone selling a PLASTIC WATER BOTTLE for a hundred bucks deserves to 
> be mocked at least a little.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Eric Norris

I’ll open myself to mocking by admitting that I have, in fact, sold a plastic 
bicycle water bottle on eBay for $100. However, this was a very rare, mint 
condition bottle from the 1980s, still in the original packaging and printed 
with the Colnago name and logo. The combination of those factors led a very 
motivated buyer who was, I believe, doing  a period-correct restoration of a 
Colnago, to pay that much. 

I’ve sold other bottles from my collection of NOS 1980s bottles for amounts 
ranging from $20 to $50. The price is highly related to the desirability of the 
trademark on the bottle. Interesting that most of the buyers for items like 
this come from overseas. I’ve shipped bottles to the Philippines, Japan, and 
China. Japan, in particular, is home to a large number of bicycle collectors 
who are particularly interested in restoring Italian bikes from the “golden 
age” of European racing.

--Eric N
campyonly...@me.com
www.CampyOnly.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
Blog: http://CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 

> On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Beth H  wrote:
> 
> 3. Anyone selling a PLASTIC WATER BOTTLE for a hundred bucks deserves to be 
> mocked at least a little.

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Geometry for new 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm

2014-11-12 Thread Wildcat96

I asked Grant recently about the effective top tube lengths on the Sams as my 
51 seems really long.  He said off the top of his head he believed the 51 was 
55.5cm ETT (longer than I was originally told and I ended up ordering too longa 
 stem) and the 55 was 57.5cm ETT.

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Geometry for new 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Williams

Has anyone seen new updated geometry charts for the new 2014 Hillborne 
sizes (51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm)?

Ok, I'm sure I can get a good enough idea by interpolating the old charts 
for the 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64. I'm looking at the 55cm and I'm sure it is 
very close to the 56. Close enough to not matter whatsoever. But...do we 
have new charts somewhere?

Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 11/12/2014 10:30 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Hugh

It's a $320 experiment, but it would be a really cool experiment.  You 
could buy a set of Soma Grand Randonneur tires in both the light and 
fast (green label) version and the stout and rugged (blue label) 
version.  Ride them both on the road and see if you hate the rugged 
Blue Label version.  Ride them both on your trails and see if the Blue 
Labels hold up in the conditions in which your Hetres got sliced.  Let 
us know how it worked out.  Jan-types would predict the green labels 
are a lot faster and have few enough flats that it's worth it.  Others 
might say they both ride fine, and the extra stoutness is worth it.


I'm not sure what happened to that sliced tire could be generalized to 
"conditions."   I was on a ride with my friend Holly when she got a 
similar cut.  She'd just ridden over a box cutter laying on the side of 
the road, sharp side up.  Sliced right through it.  Who knows what 
caused the cut we saw the photo of?  It's not the sort of thing that 
ordinary roadside conditions are likely to cause, unless your roadsides 
are paved with broken bottles, tin cans with the lid attached, or 
discarded box cutters.  And you could ride for over 40 years and not 
encounter a box cutter like the one Holly rode over.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 11/12/2014 11:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no 
more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different 
kinds of flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, 
this over 25 years of riding in Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't 
"generally speaking".


Goatheads are only "generally speaking" if you live in Hell.

;-)



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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

2014-11-12 Thread Beth H

While everyone piles on pb*bikes for his business model, let me point out:

1. We won't keep people from being rich, any more than they will help keep 
me from being, ahem, under budget.
2. Capitalism may suck, but it is too firmly entrenched now to destroy it 
without completely destroying the world which so heavily depends upon it. 
(Who was it that said, "Don't throw stones in glass houses..."?)
3. Anyone selling a PLASTIC WATER BOTTLE for a hundred bucks deserves to be 
mocked at least a little. 
4. Anyone buying it -- even if they can easily afford to -- earns my pity.

Cheers and happy riding

Beth in Portland, OR

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
> water bottle! 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
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[RBW] FS: Nice Lugged Steel

2014-11-12 Thread Bill

Very nice, and very sensibly configured as pictured.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no more
flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different kinds of
flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, this over 25
years of riding in Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't "generally speaking".

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Jan Heine 
wrote: Generally
speaking, wider tires that run at lower pressures have far fewer flats than
narrower tires that run at higher pressures.

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

Och! It's -6˚F this morning and my brain's too buggered to head out (the 
threshold for venturing out in extremes is higher than when it's warmer). 
Feel free to ask me any questions on the how or why with floor living or 
shoes, or other nutty things I do, Paul (off list is best).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:26:40 AM UTC-7, truegolden wrote:
>
>  
>  Deacon Patrick,
>  
> I enjoy your posts and pics and continue to be inspired by your minimalist 
> life style, hopefully enough to minimalize more myself.
>  
> Paul in Dallas (only about 32 degrees here this morning.
>  
> ===
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Deacon Patrick >: Nov 11 
>
> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
> months). So I wimped out and turned around. 
>
> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet to 
> sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>
> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>  
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

Hugh

It's a $320 experiment, but it would be a really cool experiment.  You 
could buy a set of Soma Grand Randonneur tires in both the light and fast 
(green label) version and the stout and rugged (blue label) version.  Ride 
them both on the road and see if you hate the rugged Blue Label version.  
Ride them both on your trails and see if the Blue Labels hold up in the 
conditions in which your Hetres got sliced.  Let us know how it worked 
out.  Jan-types would predict the green labels are a lot faster and have 
few enough flats that it's worth it.  Others might say they both ride fine, 
and the extra stoutness is worth it.  

Bill

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:56:43 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hey RBW riders, curious what you all think is the best  650b & 700c tire 
> for touring? Is it even possible to have a plush ride with decent flat 
> resistance?
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, Ca
>

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[RBW] Brisk November Ride

2014-11-12 Thread true

Deacon Patrick,

I enjoy your posts and pics and continue to be inspired by your minimalist life 
style, hopefully enough to minimalize more myself.

Paul in Dallas (only about 32 degrees here this morning.

===




Deacon Patrick : Nov 11 

We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up and 
headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps Rampart 
Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own mortality on the 
hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the snow (either being 
from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 months). So I wimped out 
and turned around.


All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet to sort 
out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is minimalist. 
But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still pink and still 
wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.


Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado hills. 
(There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/


With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

2014-11-12 Thread George Schick

Patrick - I recall trying something like a bag between by sock and my shoe 
some 40 years ago thinking it would isolate the wind and cold from the 
skin.  Your test might wind up differently, but in my case I wound up 
freezing my feet worse than if I'd had on just plain socks; the plastic 
keeps the sweat from evaporating and it builds up inside the sock after 
which the the wind cools it down even more quickly than without.  Having 
worked in an outdoor service type of job for a while after that I learned 
that the only effective way I could keep my feet warm was to wear regular 
socks and work boots and then a rubber overboot on top of everything.  So 
nowadays when I ride in Winter I just wear socks and running shoes and then 
these over the shoes: 
 http://www.gemplers.com/product/G31100/Servus-PVC-Overboots?icid=Recent_Prod_1

They're wide and sort of clumsy and you can forget about using anything but 
platform pedals w/o clips or straps, but they work like a champ.

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:29:58 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer, I 
> can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement on my 
> wife's face. Grin.
>
> My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my foot 
> with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:18:37 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer? 
>> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Jan Heine

Compass tires have about the same tread thickness as the Grand Bois for the 
700C models, and a bit thinner tread that the (somewhat excessively thick) 
Grand Bois 650B models. In my experience, thicker tread doesn't really 
improve flat resistance, at least in the range we are looking at. (Very 
thin treads do flat more easily, and very, very thick treads may offer 
extra protection.)

Generally speaking, wider tires that run at lower pressures have far fewer 
flats than narrower tires that run at higher pressures. My friend Ryan used 
to have a flat every other ride on his 700C x 25 mm tires. When he got a 
new bike with Hetres, and more recently, Babyshoe Pass tires, he gets a 
handful of flats a year – and he rides a lot.

Flat frequency depends on many factors. The biggest one is where you ride, 
both in terms of the roads you use and where you position yourself on the 
road. If you ride on shoulders of busy highways, you'll get many flats from 
all the debris that accumulates there. The same applies if you hug the curb 
when riding in the city. You get far fewer flats on small backroads, and if 
you ride further from the curb in the city.

If you mostly ride in the travel lane of cars, you'll get few flats, 
because the cars "sweep" the roadway clear of debris. (The debris gets 
flung in the air and lands randomly all over the place. The debris that 
lands outside the travel lane remains there, whereas the debris in the 
travel lane gets flung in the air again by the next car, until all debris 
has landed outside the travel lane.)

That is why I don't get flats touring on little backroads. And I get few 
flats in the city, since I ride at least 3 feet from the curb. I wrote more 
about that in this blog post:

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/preventing-flat-tires/

Jan Heine
Compass Bicycles Ltd.
www.compasscycle.com

Follow our blog at www.janheine.wordpress.com

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:17:38 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The new Compass tires seem to have a bit more tread thickness than the 
> Grand Bois tires, IMO.  I think they are a little more flat resistant 
> than the Grand Bois.  That is not to say that you won't get flats, but 
> I think it's a reasonable amount. 
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote: 
> > https://flic.kr/p/pgpfKC 
> > 
> > https://flic.kr/p/hUrN6m 
> > 
> > The first link is the Hetre's casing don't see anything special and 
> doesn't 
> > seem substantial. When mounted They rode great. I do try to avoid debris 
> but 
> > I'm not fanatical about it, generally more concerned with other large 
> > obstacles . I rode them on a fire road in the San Gabriel's which has 
> > granite structures exposed  which I suspect  is different from Jan's 
> gravel 
> > roads. 
> > 
> > The second link is the gash from said ride...tore then the tube squeezed 
> out 
> > and ruptured. 
> > 
> > Jan did sell me  replacement at cost, so I'll try em again just not on 
> our 
> > brand of off road. 
> > 
> > Also realize I'm hijacking this post, my apologies. But this tire gets 
> me 
> > going. 
> > 
> > -Hugh 
> > Los Angeles, CA 
> > 
> > On Nov 11, 2014 7:37 PM, "Eric Norris" > 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I’ve been to Seattle and ridden there. The roads don’t *seem* to be 
> >> magically free of debris, but that’s the only way to explain Jan’s run 
> of 
> >> good luck. The GBs are nice tires—I really like them—but in my 
> experience 
> >> they are just as prone to flatting as anything else out there. Maybe 
> more. 
> >> 
> >> —Eric N 
> >> campyo...@me.com  
> >> www.campyonly.com 
> >> www.wheelsnorth.org 
> >> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> >> Twitter: @campyonlyguy 
> >> 
> >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:14 PM, hsmitham > 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Eric, 
> >> 
> >> I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA 
> and 
> >> see how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be 
> my 
> >> bad luck. 
> >> 
> >> Hugh 
> >> Los Angeles, CA 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: 
> >> 
> >> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s 
> >> rear tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) 
> snagged 
> >> both of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m 
> >> holding in a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; 
> the 
> >> other was embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t 
> >> damage the tube. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he 
> >> should come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> —Eric N 
> >> campyo...@me.com 
> >> www.campyonly.com 
> >> www.wheelsnorth.org 
> >> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> >> Twitter: @campyonlyguy 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Sh

Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

Ahhh, here's what I really wanted to find:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/sets/72157626542404830
If you scroll down you'll see Anton's very clever basket attachment.
I've wanted to pull this off for a while, but haven't quite got around to
it...

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:36 AM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> She loves her basket! It's a Peterboro, and really nice. I'm not a huge
> fan of the attachment system, and toy with the idea of changing it around
> some. Really needs to be attached to a rack and not just dangling:
> https://flic.kr/p/9WNHiH
> https://flic.kr/p/9xUVNo
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
>
>> My daughters loved their baskets like your wife has, David. Encourage
>> your wife to use a different system for carrying things upfront if she gets
>> the urge to go bikepacking. My lassies had to give up their baskets for
>> bird nests.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

She loves her basket! It's a Peterboro, and really nice. I'm not a huge fan
of the attachment system, and toy with the idea of changing it around some.
Really needs to be attached to a rack and not just dangling:
https://flic.kr/p/9WNHiH
https://flic.kr/p/9xUVNo

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> My daughters loved their baskets like your wife has, David. Encourage your
> wife to use a different system for carrying things upfront if she gets the
> urge to go bikepacking. My lassies had to give up their baskets for bird
> nests.
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-12 Thread Steven Frederick

I just bought a pair of those a month or so ago--they're not bad.  Fit
pretty true to size, pretty well made.  The elastic drawstring in the cuffs
is a little wonky but I haven't played with it much...

Steve

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Christian McMillen <
christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions so far everyone.  In the meantime I
> remembered about Zoic.  I have a pair of their shorts and really like
> them.  They make knickers too: http://www.zoic.com/reign-knicker.  AND:
> coincidentally they’re having a 50% off sale!
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:01 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
>
> http://www.prana.com/nemesis-knicker.html?color=darkkhakihristian,
>
> My knock on the new (don't have experience with the old style) is though
> baggy the waist was super tight with all the elastic, in my case size
> large. So I went with Prana' Nemesis Knickers. They're actually climbing
> knickers but have very little elastic other than the built in stretch of
> the fabric. The opening of the leg area flares some as opposed to cycling
> specific ones but doesn't bother me.
>
> I also wear their shorts made of the same fabric.
>
> My knock on other manufacturers of cycling knickers is how tight they are
> seeming in my use to be restricted in all the wrong places when in motion.
>
> YMMV.
>
> -Hugh
> los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride