Re: [RBW] Best Riv for rear child seat?

[Eric Daume]

I would vote for a front mount child seat. Much more interactive.

On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Daniel Jackson 
wrote:

> what frame do you all think would be best for a bike built specifically
> for this purpose?
>
> Hunq, Cheviot? Good old Sam? Clem?
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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Ron Mc]

You should have no problem removing the bolt shank with an easy-out.  Once 
the head is broken off the bolt, all tightening strain in the threads is 
relaxed.  All that's left is the friction.  You may even be able to remove 
it simply using a sharp drill bit and gently running the drill motor in 
reverse to spin out the broken shank as you press inward.  


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[RBW] Best Riv for rear child seat?

[Toby Whitfield]

Cheviot. 

If you are mounting the seat on the rear, the lower top tube is key so that you 
can mout the bicycle comfortably. My city bike is a sloping, but not low, top 
tube and it is a pain to mount with the seat in the rear, with that weight up 
high and not being able to swing my leg over the back of the bike. 

You can get front mounted seats, but the weight limit tends to be significantly 
 lower. Good for the under 2 set.

On another note, if you don't have a seat yet, I am using the Yepp Maxi 
Easyfit, and it is great, if a bit expensive.


Toby
Toronto 

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Deacon Patrick]

Filson.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:26:26 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Hey guys, 
> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research but 
> I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far I'm 
> leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any other 
> brands out there I should check out? 
> Thanks! 
> Mike

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Ginz]

Faribault woolen mills. Check out the backstory. 

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Garth]

 
   You have to know what you are looking for first .  

1. What  of grade of wool ?   You can get "merino" grade to just "wool" 
that are downright harsh . 
2. Exact size you are looking for.  Queen/King/etc is not enough to know as 
every manufacturer varies on what that is.
3. color/pattern and such 
4. machine wash or dry clean only ?  

   All that said , Faribault Mills (google spell check does not even 
recognize Faribault, it's a City in MN for goodness sake!) has a huge 
selection also

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Matthew J]

Goat Mohair  from 
Canada.  Very plush and warm. Somewhat more dear than Pendleton which is 
also a good choice.

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 12:26:26 AM UTC-5, mike gasparino wrote:
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> Hey guys, 
> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research but 
> I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far I'm 
> leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any other 
> brands out there I should check out? 
> Thanks! 
> Mike

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[RBW] Best Riv for rear child seat?

[jpp]

I would also recommend checking out kid trailers.  My kids have grown up riding 
in them.   My 6 year old can ride on her own, but sometimes chooses to ride in 
the trailer.  I have a burley which has been good.

But if you are doing urban riding I would say stick with the rear mounted which 
are pretty universally fitting.   A cheviot with a lower top tube would work 
since you will be unable to kick your leg over the back.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Eunice Chang]

MacAusland's lap blankets are a fave of mine. I have two, one from the mill
itself, another from a sheep farm near Charlottesville, VA (Juniper Moon
farm). I even use them in the hot humid summers here.

Juniper Moon farm blankets are in limited supply, but MacAusland has a
direct site (http://www.macauslandswoollenmills.com/products.html).

If you aren't worried about money and want a MUSA option, you could get a
Swan's Island blanket. Not cheap, but their blankets are woven by local
weavers and the wool is all from sheep on Swan's Island off Maine.

https://swansislandcompany.com/product-category/blankets-throws/

-E. (whose knitterly side is showing up)

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Matthew J  wrote:

> Goat Mohair  from
> Canada.  Very plush and warm. Somewhat more dear than Pendleton which is
> also a good choice.
>
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 12:26:26 AM UTC-5, mike gasparino wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research
>> but I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far
>> I'm leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any
>> other brands out there I should check out?
>> Thanks!
>> Mike
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Re: [RBW] Best Riv for rear child seat?

[Tim Gavin]

The long chainstays of the Cheviot or Clem (and upcoming mystery bike?)
make them the best candidates for a rear-mounted child seat.  You want the
seat as forward as possible to help the weight distribution, but as
rearward as required to make room for your and your child's body.

The low tube, mixte-esque design of the Cheviot or Clementine make it
easier to straddle the bike, as others have noted.

The Cheviot and Clem/Clementine are also among the stronger Riv frames, and
are easy to mount accessories to.



On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:00 AM, jpp  wrote:

> I would also recommend checking out kid trailers.  My kids have grown up
> riding in them.   My 6 year old can ride on her own, but sometimes chooses
> to ride in the trailer.  I have a burley which has been good.
>
> But if you are doing urban riding I would say stick with the rear mounted
> which are pretty universally fitting.   A cheviot with a lower top tube
> would work since you will be unable to kick your leg over the back.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Ginz]

Yes, I second MacAusland's!  I have one of those as well. 

If you want a super dense wool (heavy, weight not warmth), then the 
Pendleton or Filson is what you want.  If you want a looser, (lighter) 
 scratchier blanket, then the others are good.



On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:22:24 AM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> MacAusland's lap blankets are a fave of mine. I have two, one from the 
> mill itself, another from a sheep farm near Charlottesville, VA (Juniper 
> Moon farm). I even use them in the hot humid summers here. 
>
> Juniper Moon farm blankets are in limited supply, but MacAusland has a 
> direct site (http://www.macauslandswoollenmills.com/products.html).
>
> If you aren't worried about money and want a MUSA option, you could get a 
> Swan's Island blanket. Not cheap, but their blankets are woven by local 
> weavers and the wool is all from sheep on Swan's Island off Maine.
>
> https://swansislandcompany.com/product-category/blankets-throws/
>
> -E. (whose knitterly side is showing up)
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Matthew J  > wrote:
>
>> Goat Mohair  
>> from Canada.  Very plush and warm. Somewhat more dear than Pendleton which 
>> is also a good choice.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 12:26:26 AM UTC-5, mike gasparino wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys, 
>>> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research 
>>> but I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far 
>>> I'm leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any 
>>> other brands out there I should check out? 
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Mike
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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Ginz]

Ron,

That's good advice.  I would have assumed the bolt was too tight to remove 
without the head.  Makes sense now!
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Best Riv for rear child seat?

[Dan McNamara]

I used a front seat on the Bombadil with Bosco bars until we hit the weight 
limit for the seat. The front seat was great - I could talk to her easily while 
riding. 

For the rear I initially put a Racktime Tourit rack on the Bomba but getting my 
leg over the TT and keeping everything upright was annoying. Went with a 
Cheviot instead. Much better for mounting the bike. Longer chain stays are a 
plus for keeping the bike stable with a 35lb load on the rear. Also went for 
Albastache bars for a less upright riding position which is an improvement over 
the Bosco setup. 

We do have a Burley trailer but she much prefers riding on the bike to sitting 
in the trailer. 

The rear seat is a Yepp Maxi. 

Dan





> On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:00 AM, jpp  wrote:
> 
> I would also recommend checking out kid trailers.  My kids have grown up 
> riding in them.   My 6 year old can ride on her own, but sometimes chooses to 
> ride in the trailer.  I have a burley which has been good.
> 
> But if you are doing urban riding I would say stick with the rear mounted 
> which are pretty universally fitting.   A cheviot with a lower top tube would 
> work since you will be unable to kick your leg over the back.
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS - 56cm Sam Hillborne frameset

[Richard Rios]

Hi Paul,

If you don't mind me asking what size Sam did you move down to 55 or 51 and how 
did that work out for you? I ask because I originally had a 52 and it felt a 
bit small so I up sized to the 56 and I can't get over feeling like it's a hair 
to big. Have been considering a 55 because I really like Sam but didn't know if 
that 1cm would be worth it.

Thanks,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Mark Reimer]

What Ron said. I do a lot of work on old motorcycles and having bolt heads 
shear off, snap off, or just generally destroy themselves is an everyday 
occurrence it seams. There are a few tricks for getting them out. An 
eazy-out is the best - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMrDYJvY0Ts

If not, you can also get drill bits that are made in a reverse manner, so 
when you spin the drill to unscrew it, the bit will bit into the leftover 
bolt, if that makes sense. 

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 8:38:01 AM UTC-5, Ginz wrote:
>
> Ron,
>
> That's good advice.  I would have assumed the bolt was too tight to remove 
> without the head.  Makes sense now!
>>
>>


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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Ron Mc]

I work on people's valuable antique fishing reels for a hobby business, and 
I've pulled out many broken machine screw shanks.  


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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Ron Mc]

Mark, what you're describing here is an easy-out, and any auto parts store 
will have them.  

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:15:29 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> ...
>
> If not, you can also get drill bits that are made in a reverse manner, so 
> when you spin the drill to unscrew it, the bit will bit into the leftover 
> bolt, if that makes sense. 
>
>> ...
>


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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Mark Reimer]

Ron, maybe I described it wrong, but they're a bit different. An easy out 
is intended to bite into the bolt and twist it, not actual bore a hole. 

That's a cool side business you have!




On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:24:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Mark, what you're describing here is an easy-out, and any auto parts store 
> will have them.  
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:15:29 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> If not, you can also get drill bits that are made in a reverse manner, so 
>> when you spin the drill to unscrew it, the bit will bit into the leftover 
>> bolt, if that makes sense. 
>>
>>> ...
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS - 56cm Sam Hillborne frameset

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Richard,


I went to the "newer" 55cm. While the 56cm's TT was a bit long, I used it 4 
years without much of a problem. But, the new additional fork eyelets, a few 
cosmetic changes and the black & cream color pushed me over the edge. The 
change from double TT to single was a risk, since I did not want shimmy or 
handling problems with 4 panniers in the mountains. But, loading the bike and 
taking it on a couple local day rides makes me think the stability I got with 
the first Sam was more the 36-hole rims that original came with the bike. I 
moved most of the componets to the new bike. 


Sizing a Sam is always tricky, so I relied on Riv's advice before making the 
purchase. Of course, your choice of tire width can make a huge difference in 
standover, too. My PBH is 863 and I run 38mm Vittoria Hyper Randonneuers on 
this bike. The one cm difference is noticeable, but not great.


I did hate to give up the cantilever brakes, though, so spent the money to get 
Paul Racers for the new Sam. They work well.


Sincerely,

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.



-Original Message-
From: Richard Rios 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2015 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [RBW] FS - 56cm Sam Hillborne frameset


Hi Paul,

If you don't mind me asking what size Sam did you move down to 55 or
51 and how did that work out for you? I ask because I originally had a 52 and it
felt a bit small so I up sized to the 56 and I can't get over feeling like it's
a hair to big. Have been considering a 55 because I really like Sam but didn't
know if that 1cm would be worth it.

Thanks,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Ron Mc]

ok, fair enough and either one gets the job done.  
http://bulldog1935.u.yuku.com/

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Ron, maybe I described it wrong, but they're a bit different. An easy out 
> is intended to bite into the bolt and twist it, not actual bore a hole. 
>
> That's a cool side business you have!
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:24:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Mark, what you're describing here is an easy-out, and any auto parts 
>> store will have them.  
>>
>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:15:29 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> If not, you can also get drill bits that are made in a reverse manner, 
>>> so when you spin the drill to unscrew it, the bit will bit into the 
>>> leftover bolt, if that makes sense. 
>>>
 ...
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Summit of the Patricks

[Deacon Patrick]

Have at it!

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 9:21:59 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> Is it too early to start planning 2016 expeditions?
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Re: [RBW] Wool blanket recommendations?

[Tim McNamara]

Faribault Woolen Mills in Faribault MN, Bemidji Woolen Mills in Bemidji MN.  
The latter once made an ultra heavy duty wool shirt for Riv, more like a light 
jacket than a shirt.

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:00 PM, mike gasparino  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys, 
> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research but I 
> figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far I'm 
> leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any other 
> brands out there I should check out?
> Thanks!
> Mike
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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[Matt]

2004 62cm Surly Steamroller with Rick Hunter unicrown 'cross fork, *The 
Favourite*
1997 64cm Waterford 1250, *The Geared Bike*
1994 Norco Bushpilot, *The Bike I've Had Since Middle School, Turned Winter 
Fix*

coming this weekend ... Matt Chester Monstercross!   I'll be the third 
owner.  I can't wait.  I've been searching for one in my size for about 10 
years.


[Previously:  2010 60cm Single TT Sam, 2012? 62cm Simpleone]

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Re: [RBW] FS - 56cm Sam Hillborne frameset

[Richard Rios]

Paul,

Thanks for the very useful feedback I appreciate it😊. That is a beautiful frame 
by the way someone is gonna be very happy with it double top tuber and 
cantilevers is a sweet combo!

sincerely,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[David Hays]

-1983 Mercian King of Mercia 650B Nitto Grand Randonneur Bar Honjo hammered 
fenders

-Rivendell A Homer Hilsen 56 650B GB Randonneur BarHetres and Velo Orange 
Zeppelin 

fenders soon to be Honjos

-Miyata Triple Cross Nitto Grand Randonneur Bar Velo Orange Hammered fenders

-Bridgestone RB-T

-Bridgestone XO-5 with Nitto Mustache bar and Velo Orange Hammered fenders

-Trek 500

-Raleigh Superbe Canadian 26” stamped lugger model with aluminum fenders

-Schwinn Woodland

-Univega Alpine Uno with Velo Orange Porteur Bar

and in the midst of preparing this list and as a result of looking for a 
lawn mower on Craiglist

1984 Mercian King of Mercia

   


Girlfriend’s:

-Bridgestone MB-5 with Nitto Mustache Bar and Velo Orange hammered fenders

-Raleigh Marathon Mixte 650B 


Other two wheelers:

 1988 BMW R100RS

 2002 BMW R1150RS 

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-4, Matt wrote:
>
>
> 2004 62cm Surly Steamroller with Rick Hunter unicrown 'cross fork, *The 
> Favourite*
> 1997 64cm Waterford 1250, *The Geared Bike*
> 1994 Norco Bushpilot, *The Bike I've Had Since Middle School, Turned 
> Winter Fix*
>
> coming this weekend ... Matt Chester Monstercross!   I'll be the third 
> owner.  I can't wait.  I've been searching for one in my size for about 10 
> years.
>
>
> [Previously:  2010 60cm Single TT Sam, 2012? 62cm Simpleone]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[Clayton.sf]

Tony,

Yes it is a great Trio and all setup to make for a distinct ride.
Allows me to do anything I want really.
I have the orange Cheviot.
Pictures of the 3 (and a few more that I have owned over the years) can be 
found on Flickr handle is clayton.esseff. 

Best,
Clayton, SF

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[RBW] WTB Cheviot/Betty Foy

[Mattt]

I found one for you.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-cheviot.htm

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[RBW] Re: DFW shops

[john muhl]

Depending on where you are in town Oak Cliff Bicycle Company 
 or Transit Bicycle Company 
. Both have competitive prices and stock good 
stuff and happily do special orders for anything else you need.

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> Now that I'm about to become a Rivendell owner I have the dilemma of where 
> to get bike stuff locally. Do any of you know of a Rivendell friendly bike 
> shop in the Dallas area? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[RJM]

Ah ha!...it is. 48cm Orange canti post and it currently has a set of Rich 
built wheels with Velocity Dyad and Phil "Rivy" hubs with a 7 speed 
freewheel...using some Ultegra 6500 components with silver bar end friction 
shifting. I will let you know if I decide to sell...I've been seriously 
considering it to get another Riv. 
 

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:51:37 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote:

> RJM if that hillborne is a orange canti version and you decide to sell I'd 
> love to talk. My dream stable might be a fat tired cantiborne and my 
> current one! I love the hillbornes!

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[RBW] Re: WTB Cheviot/Betty Foy

[Steve Cole]

Matt,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I hope it won't surprise you that I started 
with Riv.  I was told they have only one 55 cm Cheviot, the one that's been 
built up and that you'll find on the Web Specials page.  I followed you 
link, however, and see the 55 cm frame listed, which I don't think it was 
before.  So, I'll call one more time.

For new visitors to this post, please assume I have not yet found a frame. 
 Thanks.

Steve


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> I'm looking to get my wife a step through for a special occasion.  I would 
> like to buy either a 55 cm Cheviot or 58 cm Betty Foy.  I prefer to buy 
> only the frame, fork, headset and bottom bracket but am open to buying a 
> built-up bike.  Please send a private message if you have a bike you can 
> part with.  Thanks.
>
> Steve Cole
> Arlington, VA
>

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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[Toby Whitfield]

60cm Betty Foy - for my wife. Still working on it - got it as a web special 
in fall 2014, but toddler + renovation + job + pregnancy has pushed it down 
the priority list.
25" 1983 Trek 620 - 650B conversion bike. Still working on it - see list of 
alternative priorities above! 

58cm Cannondale XS800 - 2001/2 model cyclocross bike with front headshock 
suspension. Has its charms, but I think it will be taken out of rotation 
once I get the Trek settled in. Used to ride in NY, Montreal, touring in 
France, fastish but rambling rides.

1960s/70s Torpado. Cheap Italian lugged steel road bike I bought for $70 
when I lived in Montreal and was volunteering at a bike co-op from a guy 
who was not interested in dealing with the tubulars. Set up as a fixed gear 
road bike. I really like it - it has pretty, ornate chromed lugs, gas pipe 
tubes, is beat up a bit, but it works well for what it is, fits me ok, and 
was the right price. Still have the Campag Valentino that came off of it 
kicking around in a box.
 
Civia Twin Cities - my urban bike. It has some serious drawbacks - the twin 
skinny top tubes make the rear end wiggle all over the place with a rear 
load, and I wish it was longer and had better fender clearance. But, it was 
a good deal, I won't cry if it gets stolen, I can carry lots of stuff and 
my daughter on it, and I really like the Nexus 5 speed hub for city riding. 
Ideally I would have a Cheviot, or Clementine or even more ideally for me a 
Workcycles FR8 to replace this. However, all of those are expensive if they 
walk away, and I live in a high bike theft city, so will spend my money on 
other rides.

1987? Douglas HornetXT - Recently acquired mountain bike. It is not pretty, 
it has cheap replacement wheels/saddle, but otherwise full Deore XT 730 in 
really good shape. I got it cheap as a trial balloon for a 26" wheel all 
rounder - which I intend to enact after the Betty Foy and Trek, so likely 
actual build will wait until 2017 ;) - second child on the way and it looks 
like I'm going to have to keep my day job... I don't know anything about 
Douglas, but it looks like it may have been a Colorado Cyclist house brand, 
and the frame is a lugged Tange triple butted tubed made in Taiwan to quite 
decent but not elegant standards bike. In its current state it is the bike 
I ride to work when I don't need to drop daughter off at daycare or go 
shopping. It is unfussy and unburdened by either monetary value or weighty 
accessories. 

Toby
Toronto

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[Kainalu]

Any rivendell is capable of child carrying, the rodeo might be a bit flexy if 
you're cranking out of the saddle, otherwise you're golden. And soon enough 
they'll be on their own bike anyways...
May I suggest a Yepp seat if you're looking.
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/07/2015 02:46 PM, Kainalu wrote:

Any rivendell is capable of child carrying, the rodeo might be a bit flexy if 
you're cranking out of the saddle, otherwise you're golden.


I carried my daughter on the back of my 1972 P15 Paramount (9/6/9 std 
diam 531) in one of those folding steel Schwinn child seats and it was 
just fine; and every Rivendell made today is stiffer than that Paramount.





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[RBW] Brooks B17 Special black

[Ron Mc]

This saddle is has about 800 miles on it and is well broken in.  It has no 
weathering, and other than broken in and very light abrasion from the seams 
in MUSA shorts is basically new.  
Of course copper rails and big copper rivets.  
New saddles go for $172 and the best price I could find, from VeloFred, is 
$165 shipped.  
I'll sell this including the US Priority Mail for $120.  



took this photo today  

please contact by pm 

thanks for looking !

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[RBW] DFW shops

[true]

Those are my 2 favs as well. 



Also if over in Ft Worth there is Trinity Bicycles .



http://trinitybicycles.com/



Paul in Dallas









DFW shops 

john muhl : Aug 07 11:11AM -0700 

Depending on where you are in town Oak Cliff Bicycle Company 
 or Transit Bicycle Company 
. Both have competitive prices and stock good 
stuff and happily do special orders for anything else you need.



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Now that I'm about to become a Rivendell owner I have the dilemma of where to 
get bike stuff locally.
 Do any of you know of a Rivendell friendly bike shop in the Dallas area? 
 

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[RBW] Dipping my toe into mountain riding at 8800 feet ...

[true]

Fun stuff.

Thanks for sharing.

I enjoyed seeing the pics on the other thread.

I am in the Denver area a few times a year.
It would be fun to try one or more of those rides.

Of course if Patrick of the Moore was lagging behind I would be really lagging
being even more of a flatlander and older than him.

On two different month long self contained tours ( about 65 lbs of gear) with a 
friend who is a much stronger rider 
it was common for him to wait 30 minutes at the top of passes for me to make it.
I think the worse was a 45 minute wait. 

I kept telling him to go on and we could meet at the day's end destination but 
he said 
he didn't mind waiting and wanted to make sure I made it ok.
He is a great riding companion and friend.

We did do some of that terrain, south of Denver ,roads only mind you, on the 
2nd tour  
from Sedalia, Decker, Pine, Bailey, Fairplay, across Boreas Pass to 
Breckenridge,
and then points north through Wyoming on to Yellowstone Nat'l Park.

That was quite a trip.

Lover greports and seeing pics of adventures like this, especailly with the two 
Patricks.



Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Special black

[Ron Mc]

sale pending

>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[Braxton Colagross]

Cheviot because of long chain stays and low top tube. Hunq and Clem would 
also be good. My wife and I put our younger daughter in a Yepp mini and 
have a GMG 911 for the older daughter on the rear rack. I have a Hunq; she 
rides a Cheviot.

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> What do you all think is the best frame for this purpose? Hunq, Cheviot? 
> Good old Sam? Clem?
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[RBW] Re: Ballad of the short arms

[Stephen Kemp]

I am surprised no one has linked to Riv's "Top Tube Ruse".
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzehUKAztnO8NDNkYWZiZTQtNjI1ZS00ZDU0LTgyNDUtNWFkNzk3YzRlNjI0/view

Basically tt length on its own doesn't tell the whole story - the place 
where your bum will be is also governed by seat tube angle, saddle height 
and other things (and other factors incl stem length, hbar type, head tube 
angle, hbar height govern hand position). You could have a bike with a 
short tt that still has you reaching too far. I also have a funny 
dimensions thing going on (6ft with 94cm pbh - i.e. shorter top half of the 
body than average which means I'd be reaching too far on a frame sized by 
pbh according to Riv fit principles) which makes me think it would be more 
appropriate to size by tt length but I always bear the top tube 
ruse article in mind.

Not that I'm trying to throw spanners in the works here - as I said, just 
surprised no one else has brought this up.

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[RBW] Re: DFW shops

[Thomas McCause]

I second Transit, as they are a commuter oriented shop...The staff at 
Dallas Bike Works, though geared more toward recreation and racing, are 
fantastic.  Some of the best in the business!

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> to get bike stuff locally. Do any of you know of a Rivendell friendly bike 
> shop in the Dallas area? 

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[RBW] What's in your garage?

[Sean Mcallister]

2014 Atlantis albatross
1987 MB1 single speed
Kona 
MB2 mustache 

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv for rear child seat?

['john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch]

For years I used a quickbeam with a rear child seat it worked well in the 
smaller gear for most riding.

I alternated it between a trek 620 with gears, for more long distance rides.



When my daughter was younger we used a front mount seat on the trek, I used 
a nitto dirt drop stem to get the bars up higher than normal for that seat.

It was more interactive but she did outgrow it.

The GMG-911 dutch child seat can be put on and removed in seconds from 
fairly standard rear racks and could be switched from bike to bike easily.  


john

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>
> what frame do you all think would be best for a bike built specifically 
> for this purpose? 
>
> Hunq, Cheviot? Good old Sam? Clem?

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[RBW] Re: DFW shops

[Fred Craven]

Thanks John.
Between the time I sent the question and it being posted (I'm still under 
probation as newbi, and that's OK) I stopped by Oak Cliff and discovered 
that they will probably be my go-to place.

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[RBW] A. Lazarus Homer

[Chris Chen]

It's getting close...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/20344270412/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ballad of the short arms

[Chris Chen]

Never matters if it's new or used, you can have the same amount of fun
regardless. Congrats!

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> As an update, we are moving forward with the purchase, I will soon be a
> new (used) bike owner.
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[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Special black

[Ron Mc]

all done here - thanks again !!!

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[RBW] DFW shops

[true]

Those are my 2 favs as well. 



Also if over in Ft Worth there is Trinity Bicycles .



http://trinitybicycles.com/



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[RBW] Dipping my toe into mountain riding at 8800 feet ...

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Fun stuff.

Thanks for sharing.

I enjoyed seeing the pics on the other thread.

I am in the Denver area a few times a year.
It would be fun to try one or more of those rides.

Of course if Patrick of the Moore was lagging behind I would be really lagging
being even more of a flatlander and older than him.

On two different month long self contained tours ( about 65 lbs of gear) with a 
friend who is a much stronger rider 
it was common for him to wait 30 minutes at the top of passes for me to make it.

I think the worse was a 45 minute wait. 

I kept telling him to go on and we could meet at the day's end destination but 
he said 
he didn't mind waiting and wanted to make sure I made it ok.

He is a great riding companion and friend.

We did do some of that terrain, south of Denver ,roads only mind you, on the 
2nd tour 
from Sedalia, Decker, Pine, Bailey, Fairplay, across Boreas Pass to 
Breckenridge,
and then points north through Wyoming on to Yellowstone Nat'l Park.

That was quite a trip.

Lover reading reports and seeing pics of adventures like this, especailly with 
the two Patricks.

Paul in Dallas

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RE: [RBW] A. Lazarus Homer

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Suh-weet!

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It's getting close...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/20344270412/
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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Allan in Portland]

Oh, oh, can I speak up?

Two weeks ago I scored a couple wool blankets for $10/ea at a garage sale. 
Ostensibly it was a commemorative/decorative (which is to say in brand-new 
condition because she, well, her parents likely paid a mint and couldn't 
bear to actually use it for its intended purpose which was...) a horse 
blanket from an equestrian event she competed in back in '96. As I was 
picking out two from her not so small stack she mumbled "ugh, please don't 
tell my parents what you paid for these."

I haven't measured it, but it's big enough to cover a horse, about queen 
size. I'd say it weighs between 5 & 10 lbs. Thick, but not stiff as a 
board, or stifling to be underneath.

Cheers,
-Allan

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> Hey guys, 
> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research but 
> I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far I'm 
> leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any other 
> brands out there I should check out? 
> Thanks! 
> Mike

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Montclair BobbyB]

I have bought Army surplus wool blankets on eBay...perhaps not Pendleton or 
Hudson Bay quality, but hey, from sheep's wool, nevertheless.

In fact the Boreal Shirt made by Lester River Bushcraft / Empire Canvas is 
made from (new) Army blankets, and I think the wool is of exceptional 
quality.

BB 

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:17:19 PM UTC-4, Allan in Portland wrote:
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> Oh, oh, can I speak up?
>
> Two weeks ago I scored a couple wool blankets for $10/ea at a garage sale. 
> Ostensibly it was a commemorative/decorative (which is to say in brand-new 
> condition because she, well, her parents likely paid a mint and couldn't 
> bear to actually use it for its intended purpose which was...) a horse 
> blanket from an equestrian event she competed in back in '96. As I was 
> picking out two from her not so small stack she mumbled "ugh, please don't 
> tell my parents what you paid for these."
>
> I haven't measured it, but it's big enough to cover a horse, about queen 
> size. I'd say it weighs between 5 & 10 lbs. Thick, but not stiff as a 
> board, or stifling to be underneath.
>
> Cheers,
> -Allan
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:26:26 PM UTC-7, mike gasparino wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, 
>> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research 
>> but I figured I would see if yall had any opinions in the matter. So far 
>> I'm leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any 
>> other brands out there I should check out? 
>> Thanks! 
>> Mike
>
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[RBW] Re: DFW shops

[truegolden]

Those are my 2 favs as well. 

Also if over in Ft Worth there is Trinity Bicycles .

http://trinitybicycles.com/

Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] A. Lazarus Homer

[Steven Sweedler]

Chris, please  tell me about your front rack. Looks custom. Steve

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> It's getting close...
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Re: [RBW] Re: sheared off crank bolt

[Jim Bronson]

I'll take the more adventurous route.

I will see if the local parts store down the street from my house has an
easy-out.

That's a great looking fish, by the way, in the 3rd pic down on your site.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> ok, fair enough and either one gets the job done.
> http://bulldog1935.u.yuku.com/
>
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Ron, maybe I described it wrong, but they're a bit different. An easy out
>> is intended to bite into the bolt and twist it, not actual bore a hole.
>>
>> That's a cool side business you have!
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:24:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark, what you're describing here is an easy-out, and any auto parts
>>> store will have them.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:15:29 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 ...

 If not, you can also get drill bits that are made in a reverse manner,
 so when you spin the drill to unscrew it, the bit will bit into the
 leftover bolt, if that makes sense.

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[RBW] 1x11 Rivendell!

[Bill Lindsay]

Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I like 
it!  I might go ride it!

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[RBW] 1x11 Rivendell!

[William R.]

I'm with you Bill! I can't stop looking at it! The proportions with the 
bullmooses look perfect. Like it will just leap off on it's own! Even though I 
am 6 foot with a pbh of 88 and 78 saddle height, I think that 54 would be a 
good nimble fit for me. I just want to run up, jump on and go!

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[RBW] Ride Report: Summit of the Patricks

[BenG]

Thanks, guys, I had fun seeing it.  What a beautiful dark blue sky there, too.

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[RBW] Re: Wool blanket recommendations?

[Ryan Fleming]

Well...Hudson Bay woll blankets are handsome and durable classicsand if 
you buy Canuck, the loonie's pretty cheap 
 
http://www.thebay.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/thebay/hbc-/blankets/millenium-point-blanket-0012-6807382--24
 
I have blankets, I've had their coats...still made in Yorkshire woolen 
mills and they have a classic quality
 
Good luck!
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> Been looking a buy a new wool blanket and been doing a little research but 
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> leaning towards the more popular Pendleton and woolrich options. Any other 
> brands out there I should check out? 
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

[Ryan Fleming]

That is one swell-looking bikeholy moly
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> Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I 
> like it!  I might go ride it!
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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[reynoldslugs]

oh man.  I think it's about like this:

Rivendells/bikes purchased from Rivendell:
- 2001 Heron road, now a 650b
- 2003 Road Custom
-Atlantis
-Roadeo
-Legolas
-Rambouillet
-Quickbeam

Paramounts: 1972 (for Eroica this year), 1973 chrome, 1973 blue, 50th 
anniversary black with gold fork, new 75 anniversary 
Jack Taylor
bob Jackson
Ebisu custom
Gios Torino - anniversary Paris Roubaix replica
Tony Pereira custom
Vanilla Custom
Roland Della Santa Custom
Olmo anniversary, with a Campagnolo 50th Groupset
Colnago Superissimo -for next year's Eroica
Flying Scot
New Faggin Custom
Richard Sachs 
Gunnar Crosshairs
Davidson Custom - Ti, but with a nice steel fork
1980 Mercian

35 years' worth of NOS parts to build up another passel of bikes.
Last time I checked there were a couple cars in there, too.  And a growler 
of Pliny the Younger.

Time to ride.

Max B

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[David Stein]

I have to admit, I did a double take on the Pliny the Younger. The bikes
are nice too. But man, I think its time for a beer ride to share that
growler w/ the group ;) Please tell me there isn't a bottle or three of
Pappy hidden in there too.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:35 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

>
> oh man.  I think it's about like this:
>
> Rivendells/bikes purchased from Rivendell:
> - 2001 Heron road, now a 650b
> - 2003 Road Custom
> -Atlantis
> -Roadeo
> -Legolas
> -Rambouillet
> -Quickbeam
>
> Paramounts: 1972 (for Eroica this year), 1973 chrome, 1973 blue, 50th
> anniversary black with gold fork, new 75 anniversary
> Jack Taylor
> bob Jackson
> Ebisu custom
> Gios Torino - anniversary Paris Roubaix replica
> Tony Pereira custom
> Vanilla Custom
> Roland Della Santa Custom
> Olmo anniversary, with a Campagnolo 50th Groupset
> Colnago Superissimo -for next year's Eroica
> Flying Scot
> New Faggin Custom
> Richard Sachs
> Gunnar Crosshairs
> Davidson Custom - Ti, but with a nice steel fork
> 1980 Mercian
>
> 35 years' worth of NOS parts to build up another passel of bikes.
> Last time I checked there were a couple cars in there, too.  And a growler
> of Pliny the Younger.
>
> Time to ride.
>
> Max B
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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[reynoldslugs]

>
> I knew I'd forget a couple:
>
 
Wilier Triestina, Chromovelato
Bruce Gordon Custom
Ellsworth Truth  

I agree with the basic Bob's Adage: my favorite bike is the one I'm on.

Max

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RE: [RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

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The pause that refreshes…

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nice too. But man, I think its time for a beer ride to share that growler w/ 
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oh man.  I think it's about like this:

Rivendells/bikes purchased from Rivendell:
- 2001 Heron road, now a 650b
- 2003 Road Custom
-Atlantis
-Roadeo
-Legolas
-Rambouillet
-Quickbeam

Paramounts: 1972 (for Eroica this year), 1973 chrome, 1973 blue, 50th 
anniversary black with gold fork, new 75 anniversary
Jack Taylor
bob Jackson
Ebisu custom
Gios Torino - anniversary Paris Roubaix replica
Tony Pereira custom
Vanilla Custom
Roland Della Santa Custom
Olmo anniversary, with a Campagnolo 50th Groupset
Colnago Superissimo -for next year's Eroica
Flying Scot
New Faggin Custom
Richard Sachs
Gunnar Crosshairs
Davidson Custom - Ti, but with a nice steel fork
1980 Mercian

35 years' worth of NOS parts to build up another passel of bikes.
Last time I checked there were a couple cars in there, too.  And a growler of 
Pliny the Younger.

Time to ride.

Max B

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[RBW] Re: Dipping my toe into mountain riding at 8800 feet ...

[Deacon Patrick]

The ride is about the company and the experience, not the speed, at least 
for me and I think most on this group. Holler next time you're in the area!

With abandon,
Patrick

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> 
> Of course if Patrick of the Moore was lagging behind I would be really 
> lagging
> being even more of a flatlander and older than him.
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Re: [RBW] Finally done it.

[Evan E.]

Great story, Wayne. (The personal ones are always the best.) Welcome! 

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Can anyone identify the make and model of the child seat on Keven's bike in the 
blug post linked earlier in this thread?
David

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[RBW] off topic FS: Bilenky /Campy/Thomson post/King HS $1000 plus shipping

[Nanga Parbat]

Bilenky Steel Frameset 

light blue powder coat with some chips

please see photos 

seat tube 42cm ctc 44cm ctt

sloped top tube actual 52.5cm  theoretical 53.5cm

standover 72cm/28.25”



Thomson seatpost

Chris King blue headset

Campagnolo  Veloce compact crank 50/34

Campagnolo Centauar front derailleur

Campagnolo Racing Triple rear derailleur

Campagnolo Chorus Shift/brake levers

Tektro R556 brakes

Salsa 44cm ctc ergo drop bars

Salsa 9cm riser stem

Satori adjustable stem

Wheels silver unmarked hubs with Sun Ringle Equalizer 21 26/559 rims

Specialized Numbus 26 x 1.5 tires

SKS black fenders

https://www.flickr.com/photos/135328131@N04/sets/72157656939501955

thanks for looking any questions can be sent to Scott  at   nangaparba at 
gmail dot com  cheers

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[Dan McNamara]

I believe hat is a Pletscher seat. I talked to Keven about it but he did not 
think they sold it in the U.S.  He got it as a demo from the distributer. 

It does work with the Clem rack. 


Dan

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:18 PM, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone identify the make and model of the child seat on Keven's bike in 
> the blug post linked earlier in this thread?
> David
> 
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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's my dream Rivendell.  A 54cm Hunqapillar with Bullmoose and 1x 
drivetrain!!!   The only difference is that my dream Hunqapillar is a bit 
more color-coordinated than that one.   



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> Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I 
> like it!  I might go ride it!
>

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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[Wayne Naha]

I had never heard of an alloy cassette body before.  I was completely 
surprised to read that the Silver hubs have this.  I didn't know that this 
was a thing that hub manufacturers would do.  Considering the cogs are 
steel, and all the motive force propelling the bicycle forward is 
transmitted through the driveshell, aluminum does seem an unlikely choice. 
 I would have thought it would be way too much stress for aluminum.  It 
would seem a no-brainer for Riv to have spec'd the best of all possible 
bike materials, i.e., steel for the job.  I wonder what their reasoning 
was. 

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 4:12:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The prevailing worry is your cassette cogs will dig into the splines and 
> make it difficult to remove your cassette down the line.  It's a pretty 
> common thing for riders like us to just say "enough, I'm never buying an 
> alloy cassette body again".
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

[Robert Barr]

Ask Deacon Patrick or me - hard to improve on a Hunqapillar. Although I
confess the bike doesn't look right to me without the digatube, Bob


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:03 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> That's my dream Rivendell.  A 54cm Hunqapillar with Bullmoose and 1x
> drivetrain!!!   The only difference is that my dream Hunqapillar is a bit
> more color-coordinated than that one.
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I
>> like it!  I might go ride it!
>>
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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

[rw1911]

Wow!  Nice looking bike!  With an 89ish PBH, I'm at the top of a 54, but 
could probably make it fit.  Anyone interested in buying my Riv Road and 
Rambouillet So that I can afford this beauty?  :-)




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>
> Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I 
> like it!  I might go ride it!
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

[Tom Harrop]

That is such an attractive bike. My MTB bomba (64 cm) is a similar overall 
build but the proportions on that smaller bike just look so much better.

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