Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Anne Paulson]

Rivsters, listen to Jonathan. He knows a lot about camping with bears.
(Hi Jonathan!)

The Flathead River Valley, the area the southbound GDMBR rider
encounters after Corbin and the Flathead Pass, is a wild and beautiful
place. Supposedly, it's where they relocate problem grizzlies. We
didn't see any bears there, but we were careful to keep anything
scented away from our tents. It was one of the sections of the Great
Divide where I was glad not to be alone.


On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Black
 wrote:
> My experience is that Divide Riders are pretty savvy with the proper way to
> camp in bear country.  Divide Riders are the type who do their homework.
> Hang your food, don't eat in or near your tent, wear your bear spray on your
> person, and be bear aware.  I rode with Anne Paulson on the Canada section
> for a week.  She is right.  Spectacular!  I live just a few miles from the
> Tetons so I am very familiar with bears.
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Deacon. I haven't done a huge amount of back country camping in
>> grizzly territory before. Probably around 20 nights in proper griz
>> territory, and almost always within a group. It's not certain yet if I will
>> be doing this tour with a couple friends or entirely solo yet. Most likely
>> with a group, but until they book their flights I've gotta assume I'm flying
>> alone. Doing this solo doesn't give me any cause for concern with the
>> exception of dealing with bears, so I welcome any and all advice on that
>> topic. I've already started to learn some classic sailor shanties to belt
>> out along the trail, and of course have my bear spray hanging off my belt :)
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb
>>> is the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to
>>> people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the areas
>>> I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk rises.
>>> Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes a long
>>> way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's under $100
>>> that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some places require a
>>> bear proof container, though I do not believe there are any on the GDMTBT.
>>>
>>> -- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp.
>>> -- Clean up your eating area.
>>> -- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a
>>> tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra
>>> work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch
>>> like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never where
>>> I am).
>>>
>>> By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear,
>>> and that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons,
>>> so named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from a
>>> mile off on every trip).
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:

 Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack
 hanging in a tree sufficient Steve

 On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>
> Chris,
> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
>
> Mark,
> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought
> mine):
> http://www.ursack.com
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be
>> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from
>> grizzly bears.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer 
>> wrote:
>> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What
>> > would you suggest?
>> >
>> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie,
>> >> or
>> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin?
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've
>> >>> booked my
>> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say
>> >>> Fatlantis, from
>> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much
>> >>> more
>> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July
>> >>> that will
>> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to
>> >>> pushing my

Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Anne Paulson]

I started out last July 1, and there was no snow. I don't know what it
will be like this year. You should be OK starting in July.

There are some places where some people have to walk, and a few places
where everybody has to walk. Not too many places, though.

The GPS is a good idea. You should be OK following your friend's GPS route.




On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
> Anne - I was wondering if you could tell me a bit more about the Corbin
> route. Your comment about walking - is that because of the steep grades,
> terrain, snow, maybe all three? Any other general route advice? A friend of
> mine raced the divide last year and gave me his GPS file to follow. I was
> planning on basing my route on that and sticking as close to the 'official'
> route as possible.
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:25:24 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or
>> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
>> > Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've booked
>> > my
>> > flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis, from
>> > Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more
>> > snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that
>> > will
>> > have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to pushing
>> > my
>> > Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end...
>> >
>> > Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot.
>> >
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>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
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[RBW] 50 t rear cog -- Never walk another hill

[Joe Bernard]

That thing would completely cover the 16-inch wheel on my Dahon folder!

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Acorn Handlebar bag

[René Sterental]

I may have a brand new black one, but I need to look for it. Email me
off-list.

René

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, drew  wrote:

> bumping this. i found one on the list (thanks patrick), and liked it so
> much that my wife wants one for her bike now.
> black or green. let me know if you have something.
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[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Rivendell Sam Hillborne (double top tube)

[Bruce Smitham]

The Hillborne has sold

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:24:04 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> BUMP- Still for sale is my 56cm Rivendell Sam Hillborne (double top tube). 
> I just don't ride this bike with the others that I have. It's in excellent 
> to new condition. It works perfectly without any issues whatsoever. So here 
> is the list of parts: Wheelset is Shimano LX hubs (front is Dynamo), DT 
> Swiss spokes to Mavic A319 rims 36 spoke count front & rear. The pictures 
> show Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 40mm but I'm selling it with the Bruce 
> Gordon Rock & Roads 43mm (see one of the photos). Sugino triple carnk 
> (175mm arms) with 26/36/46 rings, Wipperman Connex 9speed SS chain, Shimano 
> XT front & rear derailleur, Shimano XT 12/34 cassette, Nitto Albatross 
> handlebars, Nitto Technomic stem, Shimano MTN brake levers, Shimano Dura 
> Ace 9speed bar-end shifters, Meisha's cork grips, Zefal frame pump, Nitto 
> 65 seatpost, WTB Pure V saddle, B Luxus B headlight, B taillight, Nitto 
> lampholder, Nitto Marks front rack with double stays, Nitto R-14 rear rack, 
> VP 001 gold pedals, Pletcher kickstand, Tektro R559 long reach brake 
> calipers. I don't think I missed anything. I'd like to get $2,200 plus 
> shipping CONUS complete and $1,950 plus shipping CONUS without front & rear 
> racks. Pictures below: 
> > 
> > 
> > https://flic.kr/s/aHskse5MBA  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if you have any questions.  
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > 
> > 
> > Bruce in San Diego (310) 968-6910 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cambium C19's?

[Lungimsam]

Not that ive found.
Someone at Brooks told me it was coming out in 2016.
I sent them an email asking when a sprung version would be made.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 62cm Saluki

[Justin Schoop]

Dick, I'm interested in the frame.

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[RBW] Re: Cambium C19's?

[drew]

Are there links to see the sprung one?

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[Doug Peterson]

That is really well written.  Sounds like an LA-centric type surprised to 
find something so interesting out there on the edge of civilization.  But 
good natured enough about the whole experience to admit being 
under-equipped; either too light tires or not enough tubes.  They sound 
like a fun group who has been introduced to a whole new area.  "Adventure 
ride" is the perfect description.  I like Mark's comments at the end, too.  

I always have a great time in "dirtville".  Sand, gravel, water crossings, 
rattle snakes, jambalaya, beer, good friends & good times.

doug

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 3:46:30 PM UTC-7, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> Here's one of the first write ups I've seen. Really positive, I think 
> they captured the nature of the day: 
>
> http://redkiteprayer.com/2016/03/salvaging-the-day/ 
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist  > wrote: 
> > Everyone, thanks for coming out! I ran into Richard and Arnold for a bit 
> out 
> > there as well (Arnold on the Riv custom, not sure what Richard was on). 
> > Thanks for everyone that made the drive down our way, I hope it was a 
> day of 
> > adventure and enjoyment! 
> > If any of you have a sec, give the good people a the IEBA a shout out on 
> FB: 
> > 
> https://www.facebook.com/Inland-Empire-Biking-Alliance-156207984434074/timeline?ref=page_internal
>  
> > 
> > I didn't take many pics, just sort of went minute by minute getting 
> through 
> > the day. Here are the ones tagged on IG though: 
> > https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/redlandsstradarossa/ and 
> > https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/stradarossa/ 
> > 
> > Missed Philip, Esteban, Curtis, Ian and Paul! We do have a new longest 
> > distance traveled to get there person, he made the trip from Switzerland 
> and 
> > said he'll be back next year! 
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/BDKeZTOtSfg/?taken-by=aswisswithapulse 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Doug, 
> >> 
> >> It was an awesome day. Hanging out with the Estes family you, Jim and 
> the 
> >> amazing folks who turned out for this fabulous event made my month. 
> >> 
> >> I'm working on a write up too so I'll keep it short. 
> >> 
> >> Looking towards RSR IV. 
> >> 
> >> ~Hugh 
> >> 
> >> On Mar 20, 2016 10:49 AM, "Doug Peterson"  > wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Post event comments:  A good time was had by all.  Met Dave Carroll & 
> his 
> >>> wife @ registration but missed them at the party.  Hung out with 
> David, 
> >>> waiting for Hugh & Jim.  Found the chocolate shop, next door to Bike 
> BBQ. 
> >>> Hugh, Jm & I set out on the 50k route.  Plenty of climbing & 
> off-roading, 
> >>> plus one interesting "lug your bike down over the boulders, cross the 
> creek, 
> >>> and lug it back up the other side".  One of the caveats of a David 
> ride is 
> >>> "bring a bike that you can carry".  Jim & I chugged along a a 
> leisurely 
> >>> pace, getting to the water stop on Hwy 38 as they were thinking about 
> >>> closing up.  After that it was uphill on 38 for a bit to a turnoff 
> that went 
> >>> even more uphill to 38 special which was REALLY uphill!  As in pushing 
> my 
> >>> bike most of the time for an hour.  We did lose some time at the 
> rattlesnake 
> >>> crossing, letting the snake wander off at his own pace.  Finally at 
> the top, 
> >>> with commanding views of the whole area and seeing some snow still on 
> the 
> >>> upper peaks, it was all downhill to Crafton College.  By that time 
> Hugh had 
> >>> called to say he was done so Jim & I took the clue to take a direct 
> route 
> >>> back to Redlands and skip the Oakmont section.  With the recent rains 
> & warm 
> >>> days, the hills were incredibly green and lush & the trails in pretty 
> good 
> >>> shape.  I got a total of 29 miles, shy of the 35 on the route slip but 
> "good 
> >>> enough".  Most of those are quality miles. 
> >>> 
> >>> Post ride party continues to improve every year.  Lots of tables & 
> chairs 
> >>> this year, with a variety of foods & choice of beers.  I've now got my 
> 3rd 
> >>> Strada Rossa mug plus a fresh T-shirt.  Met some great people, 
> including a 
> >>> guy who did the 100 mile ride on a single speed.  Some people just 
> love to 
> >>> make a tough event even tougher.  I left as the second band was 
> getting 
> >>> going & the party seemed to be settling in for the evening.  Looking 
> forward 
> >>> to further explorations in the area.  David, heal up, get back in 
> shape & 
> >>> plan a fall ride. 
> >>> 
> >>> doug 
> >>> 
> >>> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:19 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist wrote: 
>  
>  
>  
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html
>  
>  
>  A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there! 
>  
>  -- 
>  Cheers, 
>  David 
>  
>  Member, Supreme 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Ah, excellent advice. My Atlantis can fit 2.25 thunder burts but there is
very little clearance on the sides. Like...maybe 2mm per side. I rode the
Oregon Outback and across Washington with that setup last year, more than
half of it in the rain on gravel and dirt. It was totally fine. The second
it gets tacky or sticky though the entire thing locks up hard. If this
isn't sticky terrain, I'd definitely go to 2.25 tires again.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Jonathan Black <
jonathanaaronbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I rode the GDMBR Canada section in July 2015 from Banff to Eureka, MT.  I
> rode on 2.1 inch tires.  It worked OK, I guess.  This July 2016 I'm going
> to ride the Montana section with 3 inch tires.  So, bottom line:  2.1 will
> do, but more rubber is highly desirable on this trail.  When the going gets
> tough, you'll want more rubber.  But when it is easy, your 2.1 tire will
> fly.  Sticky mud is not a concern, wet gravel is.
> Good luck!
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:30:27 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Oh nice, that custom is GORGEOUS!!
>>
>> That settles it then. I'm hoping to do Jasper to Banff in three days,
>> then Banff to Missoula in 5-6 days.
>>
>> Is sticky mud a big concern? I've been riding 2.1" Tires in the Atlantis
>> for added mud clearance. If it's mostly rocky/gravel I'd opt for 2.25.
>>
>> Can't wait!
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-6, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>>>
>>> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame,
>>> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to
>>> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags.
>>> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some
>>> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't
>>> over-plan -- "just ride."
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure
 cycling associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana.

 I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then
 riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields
 Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields
 parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers,
 mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.

 From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and
 ride to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering
 how a more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the
 route. I know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read
 that the Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track.
 How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail?


 Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?


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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Large Riv Romulus on Washington, DC Craigslist...

[Jeff Lesperance]

I'll get it out of town if need be. I kinda felt I deserved and appreciate
the Rom, though slightly less than I appreciate my Hilsen and my Hillborne,
and my wife does not appreciate the size of the current bike stable - I
felt so accomplished to have whittled it down to 4 last year but somehow
they multiplied to 7 or 8 over the winter. Rom got voted out by 2 other
Rivs, a Surly Troll, a Bike Friday family tandem and a Breezer
single-speed/belt-drive errand bike.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD



On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Elisabeth Sherwood <
elisabeth.sherw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think someone else in the DC area has already volunteered to help get it
> to any out-of-town interested parties. I'd also be happy to help. Looks
> like such a lovely bike -- deserves someone who appreciates it! (I wish I
> were a foot taller!)
>
> -- Liz
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:25:55 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>>
>> It's my bike - still available. I'm looking to make a local sale, so
>> didn't push to advertise to the list, though you all found it regardless :)
>> I'm not feeling desperate to sell it, but I guess if it hangs around
>> without further interest locally I'll consider managing shipping to sell it.
>>
>> -Jeff
>> Silver Spring, MD
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Justin Schoop 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was busy this weekend and did not meet with Jeff to look at his Rom.
>>> It's a little too small for me, but Jeff seems like a great guy.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Keith Muller]

Tony,

I also installed a mount on my wife's 50cm Cheviot.  She hasn't ridden with the 
baby on yet, but I will let you know what her experience is.  I'm sure it 
depends on the baby.  Lucy is about 10 months old and 17 pounds so she's on the 
small side.

Keith

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Tony DeFilippo]

Nice Keith!

Question from my wife who I showed the picture to... For shorter folks with
a front mounted child do you have any problem seeing over them?

Thanks,
Tony

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 20:54 Keith Muller  wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> They are Velo Orange Flutted 63mm Fenders.
>
> Keith
>
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:47:09 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Keith that's awesome. What fenders are you running there?
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Jonathan Black]

I rode the GDMBR Canada section in July 2015 from Banff to Eureka, MT.  I 
rode on 2.1 inch tires.  It worked OK, I guess.  This July 2016 I'm going 
to ride the Montana section with 3 inch tires.  So, bottom line:  2.1 will 
do, but more rubber is highly desirable on this trail.  When the going gets 
tough, you'll want more rubber.  But when it is easy, your 2.1 tire will 
fly.  Sticky mud is not a concern, wet gravel is.  
Good luck!  

On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:30:27 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Oh nice, that custom is GORGEOUS!!
>
> That settles it then. I'm hoping to do Jasper to Banff in three days, then 
> Banff to Missoula in 5-6 days. 
>
> Is sticky mud a big concern? I've been riding 2.1" Tires in the Atlantis 
> for added mud clearance. If it's mostly rocky/gravel I'd opt for 2.25. 
>
> Can't wait!
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-6, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>>
>> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame, 
>> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to 
>> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags. 
>> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some 
>> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't 
>> over-plan -- "just ride."
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
>>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
>>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
>>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
>>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
>>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>>
>>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
>>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
>>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
>>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
>>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
>>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Jonathan Black]

My experience is that Divide Riders are pretty savvy with the proper way to 
camp in bear country.  Divide Riders are the type who do their homework. 
 Hang your food, don't eat in or near your tent, wear your bear spray on 
your person, and be bear aware.  I rode with Anne Paulson on the Canada 
section for a week.  She is right.  Spectacular!  I live just a few miles 
from the Tetons so I am very familiar with bears.  

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks Deacon. I haven't done a huge amount of back country camping in 
> grizzly territory before. Probably around 20 nights in proper griz 
> territory, and almost always within a group. It's not certain yet if I will 
> be doing this tour with a couple friends or entirely solo yet. Most likely 
> with a group, but until they book their flights I've gotta assume I'm 
> flying alone. Doing this solo doesn't give me any cause for concern with 
> the exception of dealing with bears, so I welcome any and all advice on 
> that topic. I've already started to learn some classic sailor shanties to 
> belt out along the trail, and of course have my bear spray hanging off my 
> belt :)
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb 
>> is the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to 
>> people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the 
>> areas I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk 
>> rises. Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes 
>> a long way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's 
>> under $100 that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some 
>> places require a bear proof container, though I do not believe there are 
>> any on the GDMTBT.
>>
>> -- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp. 
>> -- Clean up your eating area.
>> -- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a 
>> tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra 
>> work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch 
>> like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never 
>> where I am).
>>
>> By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear, 
>> and that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons, 
>> so named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from 
>> a mile off on every trip).
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
>>> Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack 
>>> hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>
 Chris,
 Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.

 Mark,
 The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
 http://www.ursack.com

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be 
> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from 
> grizzly bears. 
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  
> wrote: 
> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What 
> would you suggest? 
> > 
> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson  
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, 
> or 
> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  
> wrote: 
> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've 
> booked my 
> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say 
> Fatlantis, from 
> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much 
> more 
> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July 
> that will 
> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to 
> pushing my 
> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
> >>> 
> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details! 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: 
>  
>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot. 
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[RBW] Re: Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Keith Muller]

Daniel,

They are Velo Orange Flutted 63mm Fenders.

Keith

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> Keith that's awesome. What fenders are you running there?

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[RBW] Re: Cambium C19's?

[Keith Muller]

I put a C19 on my wife's Cheviot and she has been pretty pleased with it.

Keith

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 3:00:45 PM UTC-4, John Phillips wrote:
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> I ordered one this week to try out on my Hunqapillar. 
>
> Has anyone ridden one of these wider Cambium's yet?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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[RBW] Re: Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[Daniel Jackson]

Keith that's awesome. What fenders are you running there?

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[RBW] Re: Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[WETH]

Super cute. That should be a product photograph!

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Re: [RBW] Yepp Mini on Rivendell experiences?

[René Sterental]

How cute!!!

On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Keith Muller  wrote:

> I just installed a Yepp Mini on my Hunqapillar and have been pretty happy
> with it!  Baby Lucy has been pretty happy with it as well!
>
> Keith
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 11:35:46 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Picked up a Yepp Mini stem-mounted child seat this weekend for my 55cm
>> Cheviot and was surprised to find that the bike is now incredibly hard to
>> get on and off of. My PBH is 84 and I'm about 5'8".  Seems strange to me
>> that on a step-through frame with a long theoretical top-tube that I'm
>> having such a hard time with the fit of this kiddo carrier. Anyone else
>> have similar experiences or figured out a way to make it work? My suspicion
>> is that because the mount-bracket sits on the stem which on the Cheviot
>> comes back towards the rider that it puts the carrier closer to the saddle
>> than on other bikes.
>>
>> Love the idea of the front mount, but only if I can still be comfortable
>> on the bike! Thanks for any input.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Superb job, Erl!

Aside from what must've been a really fun and rewarding project, kudos to 
you for giving that frame a new lease on life!

Bob E

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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

WOW! No one would know it's been restored.Looks brand new.
Makes me want to start checking those used bike ads.
NICE JOB!
Jon

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[cyclotourist]

Here's one of the first write ups I've seen. Really positive, I think
they captured the nature of the day:

http://redkiteprayer.com/2016/03/salvaging-the-day/

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Everyone, thanks for coming out! I ran into Richard and Arnold for a bit out
> there as well (Arnold on the Riv custom, not sure what Richard was on).
> Thanks for everyone that made the drive down our way, I hope it was a day of
> adventure and enjoyment!
> If any of you have a sec, give the good people a the IEBA a shout out on FB:
> https://www.facebook.com/Inland-Empire-Biking-Alliance-156207984434074/timeline?ref=page_internal
>
> I didn't take many pics, just sort of went minute by minute getting through
> the day. Here are the ones tagged on IG though:
> https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/redlandsstradarossa/ and
> https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/stradarossa/
>
> Missed Philip, Esteban, Curtis, Ian and Paul! We do have a new longest
> distance traveled to get there person, he made the trip from Switzerland and
> said he'll be back next year!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BDKeZTOtSfg/?taken-by=aswisswithapulse
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> It was an awesome day. Hanging out with the Estes family you, Jim and the
>> amazing folks who turned out for this fabulous event made my month.
>>
>> I'm working on a write up too so I'll keep it short.
>>
>> Looking towards RSR IV.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2016 10:49 AM, "Doug Peterson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Post event comments:  A good time was had by all.  Met Dave Carroll & his
>>> wife @ registration but missed them at the party.  Hung out with David,
>>> waiting for Hugh & Jim.  Found the chocolate shop, next door to Bike BBQ.
>>> Hugh, Jm & I set out on the 50k route.  Plenty of climbing & off-roading,
>>> plus one interesting "lug your bike down over the boulders, cross the creek,
>>> and lug it back up the other side".  One of the caveats of a David ride is
>>> "bring a bike that you can carry".  Jim & I chugged along a a leisurely
>>> pace, getting to the water stop on Hwy 38 as they were thinking about
>>> closing up.  After that it was uphill on 38 for a bit to a turnoff that went
>>> even more uphill to 38 special which was REALLY uphill!  As in pushing my
>>> bike most of the time for an hour.  We did lose some time at the rattlesnake
>>> crossing, letting the snake wander off at his own pace.  Finally at the top,
>>> with commanding views of the whole area and seeing some snow still on the
>>> upper peaks, it was all downhill to Crafton College.  By that time Hugh had
>>> called to say he was done so Jim & I took the clue to take a direct route
>>> back to Redlands and skip the Oakmont section.  With the recent rains & warm
>>> days, the hills were incredibly green and lush & the trails in pretty good
>>> shape.  I got a total of 29 miles, shy of the 35 on the route slip but "good
>>> enough".  Most of those are quality miles.
>>>
>>> Post ride party continues to improve every year.  Lots of tables & chairs
>>> this year, with a variety of foods & choice of beers.  I've now got my 3rd
>>> Strada Rossa mug plus a fresh T-shirt.  Met some great people, including a
>>> guy who did the 100 mile ride on a single speed.  Some people just love to
>>> make a tough event even tougher.  I left as the second band was getting
>>> going & the party seemed to be settling in for the evening.  Looking forward
>>> to further explorations in the area.  David, heal up, get back in shape &
>>> plan a fall ride.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:19 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist wrote:


 http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html

 A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Patrick,
Thanks! Just to clarify- it is a Romulus not a rodeo.
Cost is something I try not to dwell on; my wife tells me it's cheaper than 
golf, but I am not so sure!  I bought the frameset for $400 and the 
powdercoating cost me $250.  Most of the components were bought from Riv, my 
LBS or this group!  If you are converting an existing bike your two costs would 
be wheelset and brakes.  The Wheelset was  $270 shipped and bought last summer 
from someone in this group I think. The description:
"The front is a Deore LX hub laced to a 32 spoke Velocity Synergy rim. The rear 
is a Deore LX hub (8/9/10 speed compatible, 135mm spacing) laced to a 36 spoke 
velocity Synergy OC rim. I believe both rims were made by Rich Lesnik of 
Rivendell/Hands on Wheels, but only the front has the HoW sticker, so I could 
be mistaken about the rear."  The wheelset came with a used set of 650Bx40 
Schwalbe Marathons.
Brakes are Tektro r559 $77 new from Riv.

To your second question, I cannot answer as I never road the Romulus with 700c 
wheels.

Happy to answer other questions.
Thanks,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Mark Reimer]

Oh whoa, I didn't realize that. That is an odd hub design. Man bummer!!

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Mark
>
> That's the problem.  That grooved up mess IS THE HUBSHELL.  It is
> inextricably the hub body itself.  The replaceable freehub body is steel
> and looks perfect.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, Ca
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:02:38 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Yikes Can you purchase an entire freehub replacement? I did that with
>> a Phil Wood hub before
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Bill Lindsay]

Mark

That's the problem.  That grooved up mess IS THE HUBSHELL.  It is 
inextricably the hub body itself.  The replaceable freehub body is steel 
and looks perfect.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:02:38 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Yikes Can you purchase an entire freehub replacement? I did that with 
> a Phil Wood hub before
>
>
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[RBW] Cambium C19's?

[Lungimsam]

Im waiting for the sprung Cambium to come out this year.

Hopefully slotted.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Patrick Moore]

Erl: Pretty Damn Good! May I ask:

1. What this conversion and overhaul cost?

2. That you describe the difference in the Roadeo's handling with 650B and
with 700C wheels?

Others: I owned an earlier 56 cm stt Sam Hillborne and sold it because I
didn't care for the fit (59 cm tt; yes I know that the sta is 711*) or the
way it rode on the road. But I still have a soft spot for it: it had some
very nice handling qualities, and I regretted that it could not take tires
as wide as I want for our local dirt.

I see that the current SH replacement is the 55, with a *57!!!* cm tt
(versus the 59 of the 56) and that the 55 still takes 700C wheels.

If one were to 650B-i-fy a current 55 cm SH, how large a tire could you use
(i) without fenders and (ii) with fenders?

I think I am not mistaken in believing that a SH with, say, 50 or 60 mm
tires of the F Fred type would be a wonderful all-roader.

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[RBW] Re: 50 t rear cog -- Never walk another hill

[Lungimsam]

Sounds like an interesting idea. It makes a 10-speed cassette.
But if you only like friction shifting, like me,  fugghetaboutit..

In my experience, friction shifting 10 is horrible and full of auto shits.
9 is fine.
8 is great.
7 pretty much eliminates auto shifting for me so far

I also don't like the discus like appearance of a cassette that large. YMMV.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Mike Shaljian]

You wouldn't believe how (actually) useful a Hope hub is for waking people out 
of a smartphone zombie state. Super useful for riding through congested areas 
on college campuses or for alerting hikers on trails. 

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Sky,
Thanks for your comments.  Your Saluki is gorgeous.
I think the Soma 650x38 are about the max.  The rear is the issue-I have about 
7mm of clearance on the sides.  Plenty of room on the front.  Photo of 
clearance: https://flic.kr/p/FwK3qz
Thanks,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Mark Reimer]

Yikes Can you purchase an entire freehub replacement? I did that with a
Phil Wood hub before

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Bill In Westchester
>
> Short answer, I assume there was a loose body floating around and that
> caused the jam, and the groove is the result of that jam.  Whatever that
> loose body was, you cleaned it out when you cleaned out the grease.  The
> Mavic Crossmax rear wheel that I just tried to fix has extreme grooving in
> a regular pattern around the hub shell which was originally smooth
>
>
>
> 
>
> What you are looking at is the recess where one of two pawls would sit,
> and the grooved surface to the right of that recess is supposed to be
> smooth.  Something broke off or got in there and got dragged around the
> hubshell making that nasty groove pattern.  The pawls themselves are
> damaged, and I assume that bits of metal that broke off these pawls was
> what got dragged around.  I'm going to replace them with some aftermarket
> pawls that are marketed as being superior to the stock Mavic parts.  I'd
> guess that it's 50/50 that it will work, and this kid (one of my
> high-school bike racers) might have to spring for a new rear wheel.  If I
> can get the new pawls to stay put, and they remain in one piece, though, it
> should work for another season or two.  It will be on my offseason
> checklist to check this kid's freehub again.
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
> El Cerrito Gauchos Team Mechanic
>
> El Cerrito CA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 6:45:17 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill. I too have been admiring the construction of the rear hub. And
>> the ease of taking it apart. I had a problem though. I needed to take mine
>> apart because on my first ride the rear freewheel mechanism locked up. When
>> I took it apart and looked at the pawls I was amazed that there were six of
>> them! Very nice. I think it jammed because there was some very sticky white
>> grease on the pawls. I cleaned it out with wd-40, let it dry and applied
>> chain oil. I
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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Steve,
Thanks. I appreciate your graciousness when I stop by unexpectedly.  Looking 
forward to a ride with you next week.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Leif,
Photo of enamel:
https://flic.kr/p/FuqzyY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[William R.]

Whoa. That's a whole different take on a freewheel. I've never had to deal 
with one like that. I have an Aksium rear wheel kicking around that I don't 
use. I wonder if it's the same kind of design.

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Evan, Leif and Franklyn,
Thank you for your comments; I am pleased with how it turned out.

Leif,
The powdercoater recommended a light sanding before I painted to scuff the 
surface a bit.  I sprayed two coats of enamel and used a brush for the windows  
on the fork.
I followed someone from this group's recommendation to go to a hobby store for 
the enamel paint.  It has held up well through the build process.  Time will 
tell how durable it will be.  Even if it chips off, there is powdercoat 
underneath.  I am also going to apply some helicopter tape to areas on the head 
tube to shield it from cable rub.

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Dear Hugh,
Thanks for your comments.  Yes, a local auto body shop did powdercoating and I 
painted the head tube.  All I did to the headbadge was clean it and keep it 
safe until I could reattach it!
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Sky Coulter]

Nice rejuvenation snd transformation.  I've been considering converting my 
Romulus to 650b since I saw pics of Leslie Bright's Ram conversion.  Was 
38mm the max tires size you could fit comfortably with fenders? I think 
they only reason I haven't tried this conversion yet is that I've already 
got too many bikes and one of them is a Saluki.  Anyway, love the new paint 
job - looks fantastic. 

Sky in New West

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[islaysteve]

Erl, thanks for bringing the Rom by for a sneak preview this morning!  It's a 
beautiful bike and a beautiful build, like your others.  I can assure the 
readers here that it looks as good in person as it does in the photos.  And I 
have to add that, In this case, the photos DO do it justice!  RBW should hire 
Erl for glamour shoots.  (Springtime in Kensington helps, too,)
Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[franklyn]

Gosh,

That bike really reminded me of my first Romulus 
 
which I sold several years ago. The headbadge 
 
is something that is pretty amazing. Glad to see these are still going 
strong!

Franklyn

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 50 t rear cog -- Never walk another hill

[iamkeith]

I just saw that too.   I know this wasn't the point of your posting, but 
I've never figured out why so many people on this board think these large 
cogs are so ridiculous.   I completely understand the goal of eliminating a 
front derailleur and, in my opinion,  this is just now finally... and just 
barely... getting to the point where a 1x drivetrain could be feasible and 
realistic.  Admittedly, it  really only works for mountainous trail riding, 
even then.  I'm assuming you'd use a single front ring around 30 or 32 
teeth, to still have a decent granny gear, so you wouldn't have the tall 
gears needed for road riding, and the steps between the middle cogs would 
probably be too big too.  

You just have to think outside of the road bike and flattish, paved areas, 
to the places where I live and ride.

The things that I think funny are 2x drivetrains.If you're going to 
need a derailleur and shifter anyway,  you might as well add that third 
ring and give yourself all the range you can use.

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 12:47:56 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
>
> It's not April Fool's day, so it must be real:
>
> http://www.pinkbike.com/news/oneup-shark-50t-sprocket-kit-review.html
>
>
> jim m
> wc ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[John Phillips]

Ha ha! I like the seller's name,"Amor Dei."  Reminds me of my dad yelling 
about something I'd done or broken, "John, for the love of God!"  :)

John


On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 12:14:03 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, John.
>
> Just for laughs:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Tufo-Valve-Tool-by/dp/B018RP1RKG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1458846739=8-5=tufo+valve+tool
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:29 PM, John Phillips  > wrote:
>
>> I found them at the Ben's Cycles web site.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone knows a source, I'd be grateful to know.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tim Gavin <
>>> tim@littlevillagemag.com> wrote:
>>>
 I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some 
 tubeless valves I bought.

 On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> Tim -- where do you get those little plastic core wrench gizmos? I 
> already have a couple of the Parks, but at $12.95 local retail, I'd 
> rather 
> pay less for several of these things.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, John.

Just for laughs:

http://www.amazon.com/Tufo-Valve-Tool-by/dp/B018RP1RKG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1458846739=8-5=tufo+valve+tool

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:29 PM, John Phillips 
wrote:

> I found them at the Ben's Cycles web site.
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> If anyone knows a source, I'd be grateful to know.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tim Gavin > > wrote:
>>
>>> I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some
>>> tubeless valves I bought.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tim -- where do you get those little plastic core wrench gizmos? I
 already have a couple of the Parks, but at $12.95 local retail, I'd rather
 pay less for several of these things.

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[RBW] Cambium C19's?

[John Phillips]

I ordered one this week to try out on my Hunqapillar. 

Has anyone ridden one of these wider Cambium's yet?

Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: On tire supple-itude

[John Phillips]

Hi,
My neighborhood roads are much worse than those in Steve's photos. My 
wife & I both thought something was wrong with our bikes, because we didn't 
experience that same "Wow!" when we brought our new Riv's home. Turns out, 
those road surfaces near Riv HQ were simply smoother than what's outside 
our door. Changing from Big Ben's to Compass Pass tires solved our road 
buzz/bump issues.

But this was with a Hunqapillar and a Betty Foy with albaross bars. On my 
new AHH, with noodle bars, I find I'm much less affected by these same 
neighborhood bumps & cracks, even riding Little Ben tires.

I have to admit, though, that I inflate all my tires enough to insure they 
don't get squirrelly on the turns. Deflating stiff tires enough to be cushy 
is not an option in our traffic & on our hills. 

OTOH, I could see myself putting up with all the buzz I would get if I was 
commuting on Marathons simply because I need to get there on time everyday, 
come hell or high water.

John

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Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

[Mark Reimer]

I'm also a big fan of jack brown green. I normally ride Thunderburt 2.1 or 
2.25 in the lightest most supple variant (whatever it's called, Schwalbe 
naming protocol is in serious need of a rebrand) and Barlow Pass EL 38's on 
the pavement. They are all wonderful. But the Jack Brown rolls wonderfully 
as well (perhaps ever so slightly behind the Compass tire), but is 
significantly tougher and more resistant to flats. I would LOVE a Jack 
Brown green in a 42 or even 50 for loaded touring. 33.333 still seems so 
skinny to me when the bike is loaded to the max. Thinking the Schwalbe 
Super Moto might be the next tire I get...

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 1:15:56 PM UTC-5, NickBull wrote:
>
> Except at 40mph downhill as you hit a tight curve and discover your front 
> tire is going flat.
>
> That said, "flatproof" tires are not flatproof in my experience, so then I 
> figure I may as well go with supple.  But not without a slight increase in 
> risk.
>
> Nick
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/23/2016 10:56 AM, olof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> How much to drift on the side of safety is of course a personal thing, 
>> but methinks you´ve got to take some risks in life. 
>>
>>
>> Having a flat tire isn't what you'd call an existential risk.  It's more 
>> of a minor irritation.
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] 50 t rear cog -- Never walk another hill

[Jim M.]

It's not April Fool's day, so it must be real:

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/oneup-shark-50t-sprocket-kit-review.html


jim m
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Ron Mc]

https://www.google.com/?ion=1=2#q=tufo+valve+core+tool=shop

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>
> If anyone knows a source, I'd be grateful to know.
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some 
>> tubeless valves I bought.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore > > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim -- where do you get those little plastic core wrench gizmos? I 
>>> already have a couple of the Parks, but at $12.95 local retail, I'd rather 
>>> pay less for several of these things.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Leif Eckstrom]

Yes, totally agree that this looks fantastic--well done! Do you mind 
sharing more details about how you painted the head tube? materials and 
techniques, esp. over powder coat, I presume. Thanks again for sharing (and 
restoring)!
--leif

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 1:19:53 PM UTC-5, Evan E. wrote:
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> Wow! Beautiful color. Beautiful head tube. Beautiful everything.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[John Phillips]

I found them at the Ben's Cycles web site.

John

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>
> If anyone knows a source, I'd be grateful to know.
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some 
>> tubeless valves I bought.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore > > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim -- where do you get those little plastic core wrench gizmos? I 
>>> already have a couple of the Parks, but at $12.95 local retail, I'd rather 
>>> pay less for several of these things.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Patrick Moore]

If anyone knows a source, I'd be grateful to know.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some
> tubeless valves I bought.
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim -- where do you get those little plastic core wrench gizmos? I
>> already have a couple of the Parks, but at $12.95 local retail, I'd rather
>> pay less for several of these things.
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Evan E.]

Wow! Beautiful color. Beautiful head tube. Beautiful everything.

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Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

[NickBull]

Except at 40mph downhill as you hit a tight curve and discover your front 
tire is going flat.

That said, "flatproof" tires are not flatproof in my experience, so then I 
figure I may as well go with supple.  But not without a slight increase in 
risk.

Nick

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 03/23/2016 10:56 AM, olof...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> How much to drift on the side of safety is of course a personal thing, but 
> methinks you´ve got to take some risks in life. 
>
>
> Having a flat tire isn't what you'd call an existential risk.  It's more 
> of a minor irritation.
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Bill Lindsay]

Bill In Westchester

Short answer, I assume there was a loose body floating around and that 
caused the jam, and the groove is the result of that jam.  Whatever that 
loose body was, you cleaned it out when you cleaned out the grease.  The 
Mavic Crossmax rear wheel that I just tried to fix has extreme grooving in 
a regular pattern around the hub shell which was originally smooth




What you are looking at is the recess where one of two pawls would sit, and 
the grooved surface to the right of that recess is supposed to be smooth. 
 Something broke off or got in there and got dragged around the hubshell 
making that nasty groove pattern.  The pawls themselves are damaged, and I 
assume that bits of metal that broke off these pawls was what got dragged 
around.  I'm going to replace them with some aftermarket pawls that are 
marketed as being superior to the stock Mavic parts.  I'd guess that it's 
50/50 that it will work, and this kid (one of my high-school bike racers) 
might have to spring for a new rear wheel.  If I can get the new pawls to 
stay put, and they remain in one piece, though, it should work for another 
season or two.  It will be on my offseason checklist to check this kid's 
freehub again.  


Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito Gauchos Team Mechanic

El Cerrito CA



On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 6:45:17 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
>
> Hi Bill. I too have been admiring the construction of the rear hub. And 
> the ease of taking it apart. I had a problem though. I needed to take mine 
> apart because on my first ride the rear freewheel mechanism locked up. When 
> I took it apart and looked at the pawls I was amazed that there were six of 
> them! Very nice. I think it jammed because there was some very sticky white 
> grease on the pawls. I cleaned it out with wd-40, let it dry and applied 
> chain oil. I 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Tim Gavin]

I honestly don't know.  I have a couple that were included with some
tubeless valves I bought.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Hugh Smitham]

Erl,

Wow I'm so impressed with this restoration. This is a power coat from an 
auto body biz?? It looks fantastic! And did I read this right you painted 
the headtube and the headbadge? I just love posts like this.

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
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Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The Grand Bois Hetre is renowned for its longevity and relatively low flat
rate.  I use the regular version and it's cheaper than the EL.  I never
heard of anyone regretting the use of these tires, although maybe someone
here will prove me wrong!

Toshi


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:17 PM, ian m  wrote:

> Living in Pittsburgh, PA these both look like the roads I ride daily,
> along with some nowhere-near-level brick and thrashed cobbestone streets
> thrown in for good measure. I think the smoothest surfaces I ride often
> tend to be the trail shortcuts through the large city park I live next to.
>
> Interesting responses in here so far. The Thunder Burt stands out as a
> tire I would never have thought to look at. Unfortunately the 650b hasn't
> really made any inroads here yet so I have basically 0 options for looking
> at tires aside from the stray 27.5 MTB knobby that a couple shops might
> stock. Lots of fat tires though! So experimenting with a half dozen
> different models of tires I have to mailorder for $100+/pair is not a
> feasible option for me.
>
> The supple vs. strong dichotomy is exactly what I'm hoping to get beyond.
> It's the in-between I'm interested in. I'm a light, non-aggressive rider
> and rarely get flats. I haven't flatted a Schwalbe in who knows how long
> and have only pinch flatted the Jack Browns running too low PSI.  I don't
> plan on replacing those until they wear down to the tube. Also, what makes
> them "stout"?
>
> Longevity though is one of the deciding factors for me. It's kept me from
> getting a set of Bruce Gordon RnRs and also from Compass and the
> Pari-Motos. I'm not interested in an "event tire" no matter how nice it
> rides. I need something that will stand up to time in the saddle more than
> I need something that will protect me from poor road conditions.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:08:49 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/22/2016 06:27 PM, ian m wrote:
>>
>> But would I notice the same change if I went from the light Jack Browns
>> on my SS to Compass tires?  I would like to upgrade from the bottom of the
>> line wire bead Schwalbe's currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a
>> wobble in the bead) to a lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the
>> supple-itude?
>>
>>
>> Ride on chipseal and badly alligatored pavement, something with a nasty
>> coarse surface that looks like this
>>
>>
>>
>> or this
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll feel the difference right away.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Shoji Takahashi]

If you have the small Park chain tool (Mini Brute, I think... maybe 
others), you can use it to tighten/loosen valve cores. 

Here's a short video from another person (using a different chain tool):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdolc0sybgs



On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:48:32 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I used a leatherman multi tool plier to grab mine and turn it.

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

Ryan, Justin and Phil, thanks!
Ron, I used Tektro R559 that Riv sells and needed every millimeter of reach!

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Philip Williamson]

That looks fantastic. Good job!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Ron Mc]

A labor of love with the appropriate result.  
What brakes did you use? - reach looks great.  

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Ryan,

Funny you mention Riding Mountain as I'm going to tour across that park the 
week before the divide as a final shake-down before heading west! 

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ryan Fleming  
> wrote:
> 
> BTW...one funny thing I learned when I used to tour across Manitoba during 
> the late eighties and we would ride through bear country in Riding Mountain, 
> for instance, is that you don't want to even have toothpaste or other hygiene 
> items in your tent, because bears are attracted to the scent. When someone 
> told me this lo many years ago, I thought they were joking, but of course , 
> once I thought about it a little more, it totally made sense. Just wasn't 
> something that would have been on my radar at the time in 1986, where I was 
> very green when it came to camping and bicycle touring
> 
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:46:30 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>> Thanks Deacon. I haven't done a huge amount of back country camping in 
>> grizzly territory before. Probably around 20 nights in proper griz 
>> territory, and almost always within a group. It's not certain yet if I will 
>> be doing this tour with a couple friends or entirely solo yet. Most likely 
>> with a group, but until they book their flights I've gotta assume I'm flying 
>> alone. Doing this solo doesn't give me any cause for concern with the 
>> exception of dealing with bears, so I welcome any and all advice on that 
>> topic. I've already started to learn some classic sailor shanties to belt 
>> out along the trail, and of course have my bear spray hanging off my belt :)
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>> I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb is 
>>> the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to 
>>> people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the 
>>> areas I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk 
>>> rises. Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes 
>>> a long way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's 
>>> under $100 that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some 
>>> places require a bear proof container, though I do not believe there are 
>>> any on the GDMTBT.
>>> 
>>> -- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp. 
>>> -- Clean up your eating area.
>>> -- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a 
>>> tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra 
>>> work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch 
>>> like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never 
>>> where I am).
>>> 
>>> By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear, and 
>>> that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons, so 
>>> named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from a 
>>> mile off on every trip).
>>> 
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>> 
 On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:
 Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack 
 hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
 
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> Chris,
> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
> 
> Mark,
> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
> http://www.ursack.com
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be 
>> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from 
>> grizzly bears. 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  wrote: 
>> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What 
>> > would you suggest? 
>> > 
>> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson  
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or 
>> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  
>> >>> wrote: 
>> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've 
>> >>> booked my 
>> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis, 
>> >>> from 
>> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more 
>> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that 
>> >>> will 
>> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to 
>> >>> pushing my 
>> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the 

[RBW] Re: New Bike Day

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

So she was delighted, even before the bike was be-lighted? Excellent!


On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:49:09 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:

> Received the amazing Appaloosa today!  My wife loved it on first ride, and 
> the packing and condition was flawless as usual.  Some pics after I 
> re-assembled.  More to come as we get it be-fendered and be-lighted.
>

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Justin Schoop]

Are you sure Romulus would drive a Ford? Maybe a Fiat? Great restoration. When 
is there going to be a DC Metro Riv gathering?

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Thanks Deacon. I haven't done a huge amount of back country camping in
grizzly territory before. Probably around 20 nights in proper griz
territory, and almost always within a group. It's not certain yet if I will
be doing this tour with a couple friends or entirely solo yet. Most likely
with a group, but until they book their flights I've gotta assume I'm
flying alone. Doing this solo doesn't give me any cause for concern with
the exception of dealing with bears, so I welcome any and all advice on
that topic. I've already started to learn some classic sailor shanties to
belt out along the trail, and of course have my bear spray hanging off my
belt :)

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb
> is the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to
> people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the
> areas I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk
> rises. Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes
> a long way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's
> under $100 that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some
> places require a bear proof container, though I do not believe there are
> any on the GDMTBT.
>
> -- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp.
> -- Clean up your eating area.
> -- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a
> tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra
> work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch
> like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never
> where I am).
>
> By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear, and
> that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons, so
> named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from a
> mile off on every trip).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>> Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack
>> hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
>>
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
>>> http://www.ursack.com
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be
 ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from
 grizzly bears.

 On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer 
 wrote:
 > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What
 would you suggest?
 >
 >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie,
 or
 >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin?
 >>
 >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer 
 wrote:
 >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've
 booked my
 >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis,
 from
 >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much
 more
 >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July
 that will
 >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to
 pushing my
 >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end...
 >>>
 >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details!
 >>>
 >>>
  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
 
  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot.
 >>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Ron Mc]

Each of my bikes carries either the Tufo tool like Tim showed, or the Park 
tool like I showed, along with spare valve cores, 2oz of Stans (and 1/4 oz 
Zap-a-gap for cuts) - it's gotten me home 3 times, including bailing wire 
through the sidewall.  

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Ryan Fleming]

I really like that blue! Nice restoration! Looking forward to trying 650B 
myself on my forthcoming mixte. Enjoy your new bike!

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:36:03 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Would love to get a Rivish ride/get together around the gateway to the 
Hudson Highlands. Stay tuned! (And really, I didn't mean to be so blunt. 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you did pretty good for a 
pencil-sharpening dilettante!) 

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:47:44 AM UTC-4, William R. wrote:
>
> Ha! Good one Mark! I personally artisanally sharpened that pencil for the 
> soul purpose of using it as a pointer in that photo! Sub-optimal indeed...
>
> When I say it locked up, I mean it became effectively a fixed gear. I 
> could not get it undone from that condition until I returned home and took 
> it apart. It has not locked up like that since.
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY (Yes, not too far south from you. We should meet 
> up and compare our Rivs sometime, I would like to see a Clem in the wild.)
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Ryan Fleming]

BTW...one funny thing I learned when I used to tour across Manitoba during 
the late eighties and we would ride through bear country in Riding 
Mountain, for instance, is that you don't want to even have toothpaste or 
other hygiene items in your tent, because bears are attracted to the scent. 
When someone told me this lo many years ago, I thought they were joking, 
but of course , once I thought about it a little more, it totally made 
sense. Just wasn't something that would have been on my radar at the time 
in 1986, where I was very green when it came to camping and bicycle touring

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:46:30 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks Deacon. I haven't done a huge amount of back country camping in 
> grizzly territory before. Probably around 20 nights in proper griz 
> territory, and almost always within a group. It's not certain yet if I will 
> be doing this tour with a couple friends or entirely solo yet. Most likely 
> with a group, but until they book their flights I've gotta assume I'm 
> flying alone. Doing this solo doesn't give me any cause for concern with 
> the exception of dealing with bears, so I welcome any and all advice on 
> that topic. I've already started to learn some classic sailor shanties to 
> belt out along the trail, and of course have my bear spray hanging off my 
> belt :)
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb 
>> is the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to 
>> people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the 
>> areas I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk 
>> rises. Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes 
>> a long way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's 
>> under $100 that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some 
>> places require a bear proof container, though I do not believe there are 
>> any on the GDMTBT.
>>
>> -- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp. 
>> -- Clean up your eating area.
>> -- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a 
>> tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra 
>> work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch 
>> like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never 
>> where I am).
>>
>> By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear, 
>> and that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons, 
>> so named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from 
>> a mile off on every trip).
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
>>> Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack 
>>> hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>
 Chris,
 Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.

 Mark,
 The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
 http://www.ursack.com

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be 
> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from 
> grizzly bears. 
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  
> wrote: 
> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What 
> would you suggest? 
> > 
> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson  
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, 
> or 
> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  
> wrote: 
> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've 
> booked my 
> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say 
> Fatlantis, from 
> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much 
> more 
> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July 
> that will 
> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to 
> pushing my 
> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
> >>> 
> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details! 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: 
>  
>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot. 
> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Lungimsam]

I used a leatherman multi tool plier to grab mine and turn it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Ron Mc]

Park also makes a really nice tool for Schraeder + Presta cores
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281841297710?lpid=82=ps_noapp=true  



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[RBW] Romulus refurbished as 650b

[WETH]

I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape.  Rust 
had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for another 
bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get the forlorn 
looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus do not belong 
together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see the bike and, of 
course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own two dogs both of whom 
we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.

Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and called 
Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of beausage.  I like 
beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the wounds.  Keven kindly told 
me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as those were irreplaceable now.  
Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had 
recently unconverted my Riv Road Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the 
Romulus to a local automotive body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel 
Romulus would have driven a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream 
and reapplied the badge and the new decals Keven sent.

If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start to 
finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120

After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I really 
enjoy the ride!  

Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so many 
in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...

Safe cycling wishes,
Erl

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[RBW] FS: 60cm Bombadil

[Justin Schoop]

Here is my CL post. I'm looking to offload this to make room for a different 
project. 

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/5503573883.html

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Edwin W]

I've been having a few slow leaks from presta valves. 
Can one of your pro mechanics explain this process of tightening the cores?

Thanks,

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Lungimsam]

Maybe he will have tire inflating episode on Nat Geo one day. Perhaps that 
requires too many movements for a deep analysis.

Maybe a "Raising your kick stand" episode. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[William R.]

@ Mark Reimer: It was very clean when I took the hub apart. Besides the 
white grease (which was very minimal), it was as you would expect a new hub 
to look, very clean and new. There was nothing loose in there. But I do 
want to open it up again and inspect the ratchet ring, maybe I missed 
something there. It is working well now though and I'm having great rides 
on this awesome new bike!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 62cm Saluki

[Justin Schoop]

Justin, what size bleriot and saluki did/do you have?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[William R.]

Ha! Good one Mark! I personally artisanally sharpened that pencil for the 
soul purpose of using it as a pointer in that photo! Sub-optimal indeed...

When I say it locked up, I mean it became effectively a fixed gear. I could 
not get it undone from that condition until I returned home and took it 
apart. It has not locked up like that since.

Bill in Westchester, NY (Yes, not too far south from you. We should meet up 
and compare our Rivs sometime, I would like to see a Clem in the wild.)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Mark Reimer]

I can't imagine how anything in there could cause that groove. The pawls 
can't move any direction other than in/out. MAYBE if some kind of debris 
got in there, or if you chipped a tooth on a pawl or the ratchet ring, 
perhaps that was smashed into the hub body while under load. Any sign of 
broken teeth anywhere?? Very curious. 

Nice freehub design though. It's very similar to Industry Nine, which Paul 
uses in their RHUBs. 6 pawls, each with multiple points of engagement, 
makes for a buzzy hub but very quick engagement and a nice distribution of 
the load. Not sure if you can do this or not, but Industry Nine says you 
can remove three of the six pawls if you want, which makes it quieter and 
less drag, while sacrificing the 'immediate' engagement a bit. I personally 
have no idea why anyone would want to do that, but to each their own. 

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:45:17 AM UTC-5, William R. wrote:
>
> Hi Bill. I too have been admiring the construction of the rear hub. And 
> the ease of taking it apart. I had a problem though. I needed to take mine 
> apart because on my first ride the rear freewheel mechanism locked up. When 
> I took it apart and looked at the pawls I was amazed that there were six of 
> them! Very nice. I think it jammed because there was some very sticky white 
> grease on the pawls. I cleaned it out with wd-40, let it dry and applied 
> chain oil. I use chainsaw bar chain oil. The hub operates beautifully now. 
> I noticed when I had the hub opened up that one of the areas between the 
> pawls had a grove in it (see photo). Actually, on closer inspection of the 
> photo I see a smaller second groove closer to the pawl on the right. I 
> wonder if this was a result of the jam or the cause. Or was it the grease? 
> I feel like the grease had something to do with it. Could one or two of the 
> ratchet gears get caught there like that? The photo was taken after I 
> cleaned the grease out. Everything is working well now and I've been riding 
> it a lot since this happened. I can't really wrap my head around what could 
> have happened there. Any thoughts? Anyone?
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe tubes...tighten those presta valve cores!

[Ron Mc]

tighten the valve core in every new tube regardless of mfg

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Deacon Patrick]

I've no idea what most Divide riders do. My experience and rule of thumb is 
the more humans have stupidly conditioned smart bears to turn to 
people/campsites for food, the greater the need for a bear bag. In the 
areas I go there is little training, but on a defined route, that risk 
rises. Keeping a generally clean camp and following common sense rules goes 
a long way toward protecting you. Ultimately, however, its a bag that's 
under $100 that protects you and the bears and isn't a big deal. Some 
places require a bear proof container, though I do not believe there are 
any on the GDMTBT.

-- Cook, eat, etc away from your camp. 
-- Clean up your eating area.
-- Store food overnight away from your tent, if possible hanging from a 
tree, but this is VERY hard to do many places. Usually it's a lot of extra 
work to accomplish very little (starters: good luck finding a tree branch 
like in the diagram. They only exist on one in 10,000 trees, and never 
where I am).

By controlling scents and access, I've never had an issue with a bear, and 
that includes multiple overnights in Death Canyon in the Grand Tetons, so 
named because of Grizzly bear attacks (where we saw multiple bears from a 
mile off on every trip).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:43:56 AM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack 
> hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
>>
>> Mark,
>> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
>> http://www.ursack.com
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be 
>>> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from 
>>> grizzly bears. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  
>>> wrote: 
>>> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What 
>>> would you suggest? 
>>> > 
>>> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson  
>>> wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or 
>>> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  
>>> wrote: 
>>> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've 
>>> booked my 
>>> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis, 
>>> from 
>>> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more 
>>> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that 
>>> will 
>>> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to 
>>> pushing my 
>>> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details! 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: 
>>>  
>>>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot. 
>>> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Lungimsam]

Wow. Amazing what it takes to make a bike.
Look at all those teensie parts, clips, grooves, etc.

Puts a new light on " I cant find the source of the creaking my bike makes.".

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Anne - I was wondering if you could tell me a bit more about the Corbin 
route. Your comment about walking - is that because of the steep grades, 
terrain, snow, maybe all three? Any other general route advice? A friend of 
mine raced the divide last year and gave me his GPS file to follow. I was 
planning on basing my route on that and sticking as close to the 'official' 
route as possible.

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:25:24 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or 
> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  > wrote: 
> > Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've booked 
> my 
> > flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis, from 
> > Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more 
> > snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that 
> will 
> > have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to pushing 
> my 
> > Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
> > 
> > Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details! 
> > 
> > 
> > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot. 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't want to be too critical here, Bill, or wander off topic, but the 
point on your pencil is...sub-optimal, to put it politely. We have a guy 
here in town that specializes in this, might be worth a look. You are just 
a bit south of us.

http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/

When you say the mech locked up, do you mean it came to a complete and 
final halt, or it temporarily froze up and then released, only to do it 
again intermittently? Also, does anyone know if these are the same hubs 
that came stock on the Clems as well?

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-4, William R. wrote:
>
> Hi Bill. I too have been admiring the construction of the rear hub. And 
> the ease of taking it apart. I had a problem though. I needed to take mine 
> apart because on my first ride the rear freewheel mechanism locked up. When 
> I took it apart and looked at the pawls I was amazed that there were six of 
> them! Very nice. I think it jammed because there was some very sticky white 
> grease on the pawls. I cleaned it out with wd-40, let it dry and applied 
> chain oil. I use chainsaw bar chain oil. The hub operates beautifully now. 
> I noticed when I had the hub opened up that one of the areas between the 
> pawls had a grove in it (see photo). Actually, on closer inspection of the 
> photo I see a smaller second groove closer to the pawl on the right. I 
> wonder if this was a result of the jam or the cause. Or was it the grease? 
> I feel like the grease had something to do with it. Could one or two of the 
> ratchet gears get caught there like that? The photo was taken after I 
> cleaned the grease out. Everything is working well now and I've been riding 
> it a lot since this happened. I can't really wrap my head around what could 
> have happened there. Any thoughts? Anyone?
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

I'm also wondering this. I had planned on just putting a rope around my
panniers and hanging them from a tree

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:

> Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack
> hanging in a tree sufficient Steve
>
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
>>
>> Mark,
>> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
>> http://www.ursack.com
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be
>>> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from
>>> grizzly bears.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What
>>> would you suggest?
>>> >
>>> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or
>>> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin?
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've
>>> booked my
>>> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis,
>>> from
>>> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more
>>> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that
>>> will
>>> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to
>>> pushing my
>>> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot.
>>> >>>
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>>> >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[William R.]

Hi Bill. I too have been admiring the construction of the rear hub. And the 
ease of taking it apart. I had a problem though. I needed to take mine 
apart because on my first ride the rear freewheel mechanism locked up. When 
I took it apart and looked at the pawls I was amazed that there were six of 
them! Very nice. I think it jammed because there was some very sticky white 
grease on the pawls. I cleaned it out with wd-40, let it dry and applied 
chain oil. I use chainsaw bar chain oil. The hub operates beautifully now. 
I noticed when I had the hub opened up that one of the areas between the 
pawls had a grove in it (see photo). Actually, on closer inspection of the 
photo I see a smaller second groove closer to the pawl on the right. I 
wonder if this was a result of the jam or the cause. Or was it the grease? 
I feel like the grease had something to do with it. Could one or two of the 
ratchet gears get caught there like that? The photo was taken after I 
cleaned the grease out. Everything is working well now and I've been riding 
it a lot since this happened. I can't really wrap my head around what could 
have happened there. Any thoughts? Anyone?

Bill in Westchester, NY



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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Steven Sweedler]

Do most Divide riders use these bear proof options or is a stuff sack
hanging in a tree sufficient Steve

On Thursday, March 24, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Chris,
> Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.
>
> Mark,
> The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
> http://www.ursack.com
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be
>> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from
>> grizzly bears.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
>> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What
>> would you suggest?
>> >
>> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or
>> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin?
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer 
>> wrote:
>> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've
>> booked my
>> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis,
>> from
>> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more
>> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that
>> will
>> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to
>> pushing my
>> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end...
>> >>>
>> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>> 
>>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot.
>> >>>
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Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

[Justin August]

I agree. I also have had the same if not fewer flats since swapping to wider, 
more supple tires at lower pressure. Adding in a couple ounces of Stan's to my 
tubes was more out of boredom and tinkering than real need. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 62cm Saluki

[Justin August]

Having owned a Bleriot and owning a Saluki I have to say that the main 
advantages I gained were better fit (as they were different sizes) and... A 
kickstand plate that I never use? The Saluki definitely has more braze-ons 
which is good. Overall I think I preferred the paint quality on the Bleriot 
(gasp!) but the Saluki just fits me better. They ride about the same from what 
I can tell. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Deacon Patrick]

Chris,
Pick a section and go for it! You'll do just fine.

Mark,
The lightest, bear proof option out there (at least when I bought mine):
http://www.ursack.com

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Definitely take the route that goes past Corbin; it's spectacular. Be 
> ready for some walking. Have a good way to secure your food from 
> grizzly bears. 
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mark Reimer  > wrote: 
> > I have no idea hahaha!! You've ridden the divide haven't you? What would 
> you suggest? 
> > 
> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Anne Paulson  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> When you arrive in Sparwood, BC, will you be heading on to Fernie, or 
> >> will you start up the Crowsnest Pass and up past Corbin? 
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mark Reimer  > wrote: 
> >>> Resurrecting this old-ish thread just to share the news that I've 
> booked my 
> >>> flights and will be riding the Atlantis, or should I say Fatlantis, 
> from 
> >>> Jasper to Missoula from July 6-17. Locals tell me there is much more 
> >>> snowpack than is typical this year, so I'm hoping by early July that 
> will 
> >>> have melted down a bit. That said, I am certainly no stranger to 
> pushing my 
> >>> Atlantis through deep snow for hours on end... 
> >>> 
> >>> Now on to the fun part, planning the trip details! 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:51:18 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: 
>  
>  Thanks Anne. I am used to Chupas and like them a lot. 
> >>> 
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